A Florida House subcommittee voted 11-2 today to retain the state’s controversial Stand Your Ground law. The hearing followed a month-long occupation of the state’s capitol building after the George Zimmerman verdict by a group called the Dream Defenders, as well as visits of support by Harry Belafonte, rapper Talib Kweli and Jesse Jackson. The law also inspired statewide boycotts by Stevie Wonder and Dionne Warwick.

The Florida Sheriffs Association stood by the law, as did Florida Gov. Rick Scott, and in fact, the panel voted to slightly expand the law to include warning shots.

NBC News Tampa reports:

At least 22 states currently have stand-your-ground laws.

The House committee also considered a separate measure at the hearing involving deadly force — eliminating punishment for defensively displaying a weapon and firing warning shots.

The panel approved the expansion of the ”stand your ground” immunity to people who fire a warning shot. Under the measure, individuals are exempt from Florida’s mandatory minimum sentencing provisions for discharging a firearm when used only as a warning.

  • Texan357

    My God… The Republic yet lives. Of course, “stand your ground” had Absolutely. Nothing. Whatsoever to do with the Trayvon Martin case, but… “Whatever.”

    Aside that, am I really so far out of HS / college that the following comment

    SYG repeal is defeated on 11-2 vote in Fla. House committee. Among those voting no were 3 Democrats

    …doesn’t make sense to me, on a mathematical basis? I’d joke and say that I’m OK with Dem votes counting less, but 2 != 3

    • operanerd1986

      It must mean that among the 11 people who voted to keep the stand your ground laws, 3 were Democrats. They voted no because they voted against repealing it.


        How right you are too Texan357, we passed this SYG law in 2005 just for the reason that our elderly were way to often of a [email protected] & sometimes death at the hands of CRIMINAL THUGS !!! This even after giving up their money to the CRIMINAL THUG, what the gun does is give the victim a chance at a good outcome instead of becoming a statistic !!

        Since these laws have been passed in 30 states now, the crime rate keeps going down, I WONDER WHY, the FLEEBAGGING [email protected] who want gun control don’t want to talk about it but TOUGH SHT !!! The crime rate goes down because the CRIMINAL THUG has to think to himself, if I make this person my next victim will they put a 44 MAGNUM slug in my brain pan, NOW THATS A DETERRENT IF I HAVE EVER SEEN ONE !!

        I shutter to think what would have happened to Zimmerman that night if he wasn’t packing heat that night !! That PUNK ARSE THUG trayvon would have beaten Zimmerman to death & walked away & committed more crimes on other innocent people !! The way it ended up was best for everyone, the PUNK dies & the Hero goes on to save other people !!! Now that CRIMINAL THUGS in Florida have the message that if you commit a crime on someone down here & 30 other states with the SYG laws, you better make sure your life insurance is paid up because you family is going to need it to bury your PUNK ARSE !!

        • stan25

          The criminals are the ones that are pushing for gun control. When the population is unarmed they can rob and murder with impunity. Of course, the favorite constituency of the left are the criminals, who often have more rights than the law-abiding citizen

    • thetreyman

      3 voted no on repeal. not hard to understand. the repubs also voted no on repeal. 2 dems voted yes for repeal. 13 people on the committee. ending vote was 11-2 for no repeal.

  • Thought Criminal #1

    Law and upright morality continue to be in harmony in Florida. Score one for human rights.

  • LinTaylor ✓vitrified

    Won’t even have to wait a day before they start waving Trayvon Martin’s corpse around like a flag and claiming that the entire state of Florida is racist for supporting SYG.

    Of course, point out to them that SYG was actually NOT considered part of the Zimmerman trial, and they’ll act like you just started speaking Klingon.

    • Vickie DHaene

      It doesn’t bother me to be called “Racist” anymore.

      • thetreyman

        it’s the same as saying “i don’t like what you’re saying and i can’t refute it” these days.

  • Maxx

    Stand Your Ground > Liberal Race-baiting gun phobes.

    Common sense survives yet another liberal reactionary meltdown. Let’s face it…who is more likely to need the “Stand your Ground” defense…someone who lives in a gated community that requires three security checks before they can reach their living room or a community where bullets are flying like blackflies?

    This effort was ill-conceived and wrongly sold. Statistically in Florida, minorities have claimed Stand Your Ground as a defense more than whites. Noting the above, it stands to reason.

    Now, for those eastern liberals who came down here and tried to stir up trouble, GTFO of my state.

    • Borat Insane Oretard

      Liberal extremists’ attempts to control our second amendment rights backfire yet again. I can only hope this is the start of something that will have a wider influence in society. If it’s not, by 2015, after the first time the government fires on citizens BECAUSE they exercise the second amendment and own guns, most of the dumbasses in this country will finally “get it”. If they don’t, at least we won’t have to hear from them anymore when the government takes away their first amendment rights.

    • michael s

      Trevor Dooley would disagree.

      • American.Vet

        But the 8 year old daughter who watched him kill her father would not.

        • michael s

          The daughter also testified that her father decided to follow and go after Trevor Dooley, who said “I don’t want to fight you” with his hands in the air and was walking away from the confrontation.

      • ObamaFail

        The 2 different World War II vets beaten to death by black thugs would agree with him. So would the parents of the baby those 2 black thugs shot in the face. Chris Lane would also agree with Maxx, you know, if he were alive and hadn’t been killed by a black thug who tweeted the day before about hating nasty white people.

        • michael s

          I wonder if both of them were crack dealers or only Belton. Maybe Kangaroo Jack would agree with Maxx,I don’t know.

          • thetreyman

            really? you’re smearing an 88 year old WWII vet as a crack dealer? you are truly a bottom feeding sh!t bag.

          • thetreyman

            “I don’t know” so you finally tell the truth.

      • mike_in_kosovo

        *THAT* lame, debunked bullcr*p *AGAIN*?

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmSIOoy6MlE&app=desktop Booker

    Too freaking hilarious.

  • Jack Deth

    Well, so much for that sweet, sweet low hanging fruit of Stand Your Ground that had nothing to do with the Trayvon Martin case.

    All that time, energy, wasted PR and countless numbers of brainless, knee jerk, lemming Low Information Voters for nothing !!!

    • Vickie DHaene

      All the time Holder is still wasting saying he wants to keep case open and charge him.

  • calvin12

    Ted Cruz, oh so sweetly, *itch-Slaps Scheme Team!
    Well done, Senator, Well Done!

    Ted Cruz Tells Trayvon’s Mother Why Stand Your Ground Laws Can’t Possibly Be ‘Racist’

  • Red Menace

    OMG, Florida is soooooooo RACIST!!, why else would you need a Stand Your Ground law but for the sole purpose of legally hunting down black 17 yo Straight “A” students who love skittles and iced tea!. Travon Martin was not a Thug!! he was a good kid who never got suspended, hated weed, hated getting drunk, he was an anti gun activist, and he was for green energy because he cared about our planet!

    • GaryTheBrave

      You forgot the /sarc tag.

      • Red Menace

        I would hope that would be pretty obvious, although it’s not very different from what alot of Anti-Racists spew.

  • Ryan Johnson

    Ooooh, I hate to say it but there’s definitely gonna be a bitchstorm from the black community on this one. The fact of the matter is, sometimes there are people who get away from racist crimes, but people get away with everything else as well-that’s just life. Trayvon was the wrong person to use as a face for racial grievance, and black people just can’t accept that. Though I steadfastly stay on the side of neutrality in the whole thing, I at least admit there were actions Trayvon took that he shouldn’t have that night.

  • Markward

    Funny, for all the libs saying obamacare is the law of the land they sure seem eager to repeal SYG.

    • journogal

      And the second amendment, current immigration laws on the books, and Citizens United…

  • Thomas, Snarkmaster General

    Cue Martin family lawsuit in 3…2…1

  • Paul C.

    The law is as it should be.

  • YesterdayzNewz

    Shhhhhh. Don’t tell anyone. I’m carrying concealed right freaking now. So is my co-worker. Take that libtards!

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  • $472942

    Oh yeah. The liberal pig-squealing should commence in 3…2…1…

  • Patriot fan

    Love being a Floridian!

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    I may not like living here, but I like the laws they have…And the Republicans (read:REAL CONSERVATIVES) IN CHARGE! Jawamax 8<{D}

  • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    If you don’t want people to “Stand Their Ground,” don’t let them be put in such a position in the first place– like the song says, “Walk away from trouble, if you can.”

    But such a simple solution appears to elude most people.

    Too many times, some chest-thumper just wants to prove a point, and tells the other fella, who IS walking away from trouble, “Where d’ya think yer goin’?”, and prevents his retreat.

    And then, what happens?

    Anything that can convince the “chest-thumper” to “walk away from trouble” is fair play– for MY money, anyway.

  • MrApple

    Common sense vindicated.

  • michael s

    George Zimmerman Ralph Wald allowed self defense SYG. Trevor Dooley Michael Giles not allowed self defense SYG.It’s clear to see why.

    • Markward

      And here is the liar lying again. SYG was never invoked by the defense during the Zimmerman trial. Again, you are welcomed to your opinion, but you do not get to make your own facts. Liar.

    • Corey Dennison

      Do you have to lie about everything? Or only when it helps you play the race card?

      Zimmerman’s defense team NEVER invoked SYG.

      Pull your head out of your racist a$$!

    • MarcusFenix

      Except Zimmerman didn’t use the SYG as a defense.

      Also, the second shooting case, the man walked out of his house and down to a public area with a gun on him, started an argument with someone and ended up shooting the guy in front of his kid. He went looking for a fight, in broad daylight.

      • ObamaFail

        Hey, Michael S. doesn’t let facts get in the way. All he cares about is making whitey pay for something that Michael S. was never a victim of. Which is slavery.

        • michael s

          Incorrect speculation.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Incorrect speculation

            What is “Everything you write about SYG?”

            SYG was *not* a factor in the Zimmerman case, nor was it invoked.

    • ObamaFail

      You libs never let facts get in the way of your race-baiting, do you? I have a question, if Zimmerman had been unarmed and Martin had beaten him to death (which is what he was attempting to do when Zimmerman shot him), would you be demanding justice for Zimmerman’s murder at the hands of thug Martin? Or would you demand Martin be let off scot free because he’s black? Never mind, don’t answer that. You’d demand his freedom because slavery. Which, hopefully you aren’t stupid enough to need to be reminded of, no one alive today in America was ever a victim of

      • michael s

        No I wouldn’t . I ask for one standard.

        • mike_in_kosovo


    • mike_in_kosovo

      We’re sorry, but your Race Card™ is over-limit and has been declined.

      Please attempt your argument again with a *VALID* form of reasoning.

  • walterc

    “The panel approved the expansion of the ”stand your ground” immunity to people who fire a warning shot.”

    For those that use the “two shotgun blasts in the air” Joe Biden form of self defense.

  • brwaldbaum

    Cheer up, Komrades! There’s still Match.com.

  • fishydude

    Criminals and liberals lose again. Oh wait, isn’t that redundant?
    Liberals want criminals to have a safe work place too. :)

  • Shooga J

    Once again, the liberals, especially the black ones, desperately and pathetically attempt to change a law that by it’s nature, is far more likely to protect a white family. Because if you play murder, rape and robbery by the numbers, guess who is far more likely to mean you no good? Of course, this sounds racist. But since the facts come directly from the FBI crime website, I guess they are racist too.

  • Arkuy The Great

    Give them credit. They took seriously the hoplophobes’ and race pimps’ demand to reconsider SYG. Sucks that the outcome was not quite what those parties had in mind when they made that exhortation.

  • https://youtu.be/h82D5ZvcALM CrustyB

    So it’s still legal to defend yourself when a hoodrat, hopped up on drugs, tries to murder you, even in Florida.

  • http://www.hardinrepublic.com/ Stephen Guy Hardin

    At least one state has retained it’s sanity….

  • ObamaFail

    Boo hoo! Now thugs won’t be able to beat unarmed victims to death, and potential victims are still allowed to protect themselves. WHY IS NO ONE THINKING OF THE THUGS?!!!?!!?!

    • Fhalkyn Phoenix

      I know, right?! Victims and thugs should work together to prevent gun violence for the common good!

    • MohammedTheTeddyBear

      I think the OSHA should bring suit against Florida for not providing a safe and gun-free work-environment for their criminals……

      • mike_in_kosovo

        Don’t give the idiots any ideas…lol