Now that the president’s promise that “if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan” has been exposed as a lie, the White House and its messengers are rolling out a new line: maybe you really don’t like your existing plan as much as you think you do. Business Insider’s Josh Barro recently wrote that “there are a lot of health plans that Americans shouldn’t be able to keep,” so that cancellation notice in the mail is good news.

Yesterday, Mediaite’s Tommy Christopher sent out a similar message in response to a CBS News report on Dianne Barrette, a 56-year-old woman who claimed her plan was increasing from $54 a month to $591 a month. An increase of more than 10 times certainly seems drastic, but as Christopher notes, Barrette’s $54 policy “barely qualifies as insurance.” In fact, it’s “junk insurance,” writes Christopher, and “Dianne Barrette has no idea what her plan covers.”

“It’s entirely possible that now-healthy Dianne is ‘happy’ with this plan, but the whole idea behind the Affordable Care Act is that the rest of us are not happy having to pick up the tab if Dianne gets a disease, has an accident, or otherwise needs to go to the hospital,” writes Christopher. Odd: we thought the whole idea was to insure the uninsured, while allowing the insured to keep their plans and doctors.

PJ Media editor David Steinberg stood up for the “CBS lady.”

You know who’s the country’s foremost expert on health insurance? Barack Obama.

Got that? If you like your plan and received a cancellation notice, you’re better off. You don’t know it yet, but you are.

That’s the next logical step, right? In the meantime, it’s time to stop worrying and love your cancellation notice. It’s for your own good.

  • $59154503

    We were warned:

    Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty – Ronald Reagan

    • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

      Yes, and he is competing with Putin, + China.

  • Maxx

    They’re changing the narratives faster than Beyonce changes weaves.

    Claim: You can keep your plan.
    Reality: No, you can’t.

    Claim 2: Your plan sucked anyways (says us) so you should be glad you can’t keep it.

    • Canadian in USA ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Claim 3: The new plans would suck less if the government would run them.

      • tops116 ✓Quipper

        Claim 4: You don’t like having money, so you’ll thank us for requiring you to buy our plans.

        • JeffyTheQuick

          Claim #0 (which is the basis of Progressives’ thought): You don’t know sh!t

        • monsterdog

          Claim 5: These are not the droids you are looking for.

          • Steve White

            Claim 6: we’re smarter than you and we know what you really need in an insurance policy — like abortion coverage, contraception, liposuction and gender-change surgery.

          • Steve White

            Claim 7: with all the money the Fed is pumping into the economy those additional dollars you spent on health care insurance were worth less anyway.

          • Steve White

            Claim 8: if you’d just get off the sofa and get some exercise you wouldn’t have to worry about health care insurance costs.

      • tjp77

        Yeah, that’s coming next. After a few months of the Obamacare trainwreck, its going to be single-payer to the rescue. Just watch.

        • trixiewoobeans

          Got to fight that too. Why ANYONE would trust these B.S.’ers with ANYTHING after this Carnival of Lies is beyond me! It’d be like taking a cheating partner back repeatedly cause THEY REALLY MEAN IT THIS TIME! No, no they don’t, and they think you’re a stupid schmuck for taking them back, don’t respect you for it, and will do it again. Dump it all!

          • SupplyGuy

            Yeah, but there are so many people who do take back the cheating partners. They’d vote for Obama a 3rd if they could. Hmmm, maybe we should start a write-in campain in 2016 for Barry and split the dem ticket?

          • trixiewoobeans


    • Finrod Felagund

      This is classic leftist vs. reality. Leftists think that The Government knows what’s better for you than you do yourself. The rest of us believe in freedom and liberty.

    • SupplyGuy

      Beyonce has a weave? Just one more damn lie!

    • rssllue

      Does this sound like the likes of Frank and Dodd who were championing giving mortgages to those who could not afford it and that the banks that would not do it were evil? And then when they all started losing their houses, they came back and said that the banks all preyed upon the people who could not afford they mortgage in the first place? AND the government made the banks lower their standards to create these risky loans in the first place? Same tired, old story, just another verse and another segment of the economy ruined by the federal oligarchy.

  • lesterwink23

    I’ve read a lot of this guy’s stuff on Mediaite…he’s another pompous ass who thinks everything conservative is stupid and evil. Not too surprising he’d go for the personal insult…the OCare mess is virtually impossible to defend on its merits so that’s really the only card libs have at this point

    • anjullyn

      Surprised they aren’t saying that if you complain about losing your ins. plan, that makes you raaaaaaaacist.

  • ceemack

    Kind of ironic, since we could fill volumes with stuff Tommy Christopher doesn’t know s**t about.

    • trixiewoobeans

      He’s Tommy Bullshitstopher.

    • Mark81150 Never/Trump/Hillary

      oh you absolutely can…

      just another left wing pissant shill for a one party utopia.. he doesn’t even bother arguing any more, just moves straight to



      I’m so friggin SICK of these leftist mouthpieces telling us how and what we SHOULD be thinking..

      as if they had that right..

  • pinupartist

    Dude, if you’re a grown man named “Tommy” & you’re not a pinball wizard or the Dodgers manager, maybe time to change that.
    Secondly, when did it become this pinhead’s business how anyone spends their own money? If it’s my money, mind your own business “Tommy”!

    • Pat_in_Colorado

      Tommy’s a lefty (and not in a good baseball way) and they always know how to spend your money better then you do.

      • trixiewoobeans

        That’s cause they REALLY don’t think of it as YOUR money!

    • TCA

      Its not your money. You didnt build that.

  • j p✓ʳᵉᶠʳᶦᵉᵈ

    That should be the Democratic campaign banner:
    Vote for Us Because You Don’t Know Shit….And We Do Know Shit!!!

    • tops116 ✓Quipper

      I thought that was already the banner.

      • j p✓ʳᵉᶠʳᶦᵉᵈ

        I think it is but they had their communications think tank reword it slightly after monitoring their control audience reaction.

    • Mark81150 Never/Trump/Hillary

      with their collective heads up Barry’s @ss, I’d imagine they know shit VERY well..

      suddenly, Tommy and company are insurance experts, and we don’t know shit…

      when all these “the people are idiots’ statements come back to bite them?…. nobody will care how sorry they are..

      The real fascists are outing themselves.. they must smell the disaster they created, if they openly admit now what we already knew about them.

  • ceemack

    Thank heavens same-sex marriage is legal in so many states now. Tommy Christopher and Josh Barro can get hitched.

    They’re perfect for each other.

  • Brenda Hellwig

    Tommy [email protected]

    @DavidSPJM Although not as well as they’d be with single payer or Medicare for all.

    I think this says it all about their end game.

  • HanaFiveO

    Sounds like the progs are losing their poop. TC is always a foul mouthed condescending ass hat, but he’s really been kicking it up in his tweets the last few weeks.

    Side note; it been my experience that those who claim that others don’t know poop are usually the ones who are full of it.

    • CatHerder ✓fire! ✓fire!

      It’d be a hoot to drop this condescending prick into a roomful of people who have lately gotten The Notice and lock the door. Reckon there’d be anything left to bury?

      • HanaFiveO

        Can I be there? Can I? Please? Pllllleeeeeese?

        • CatHerder ✓fire! ✓fire!

          If you’re good.

          • HanaFiveO

            YAY! Ill be good, I promise!!!!

          • AmericanMom

            You’re asking a lot of us in an upside down world.

        • Finrod Felagund

          If you promise to take video and post it on youtube.

  • Spinmamma

    Tommy: Let them eat cake.

  • thedumbblonde

    Perhaps, the “gentleman” would advise me what to order at a restaurant, when to come out of the rain or when to wipe ass, because obviously I’m incapable of making these decisions for myself.

    • TCA

      NYC mayor Bloomberg would be happy to.

  • 0bamasnought

    Good thing his hand is covering the stain 0bama’s baby batter left on his chin.
    People might get the wrong idea.

  • Kevin Scott

    How quickly the narrative above changed from challenging Mr. Christopher on the facts to challenging his intellectual capacity. Sure sign your argument is about as watertight as Titanic after hitting that iceberg.

    • mickeyco

      Hardly an issue since he began his argument with telling people they don’t know sh*t.

    • JamesMc

      So you’re saying that Mr. Christopher lost the argument.

      His first assertion was that those who didn’t like the plan he’s shilling for was that they don’t know sh*t (challenging their intellectual capacity). After Mr. Steinberg properly called Christopher an “elitist schmuck” for making that argument, Christopher then claimed that Steinberg didn’t know sh*t either.

      Mr. Christopher is a lying, elitist, douche bag who argues as well as Captain Hazelwood at the helm of the Titanic.

      • Kevin Scott

        The Devil is evil, and Steinberg is an elitist schmuck. What’s the problem here?

        • JamesMc

          A complete lack of context to my statement or the above article?

  • OLLPOH ~ OurLifeLiberty

    And do you know your Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

    DataMining + New Database of your ATM + Credit Card Receipts?

    See YouTube Video Mike Enzi- Sen.-Wyoming

  • Canadian in USA ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    “Although not as well as they’d be with single payer or Medicare for all.”


  • SpaceRacer423

    Weird-yesterday on this site I joked that people upset about loosing coverage simply weren’t smart enough to know they didn’t really like their old policy.
    I didn’t think the Obama apologists would actually run with that idea.
    They just get bolder every day don’t they?

    • Pat_in_Colorado

      And more desperate

  • dwsmokin

    Does Tommy really know how Medicare works? Does he realize that the mandated prescription drug Part D is provide by private insurers only? Or that to avoid coinsurance that could wreck you a Medicare recipient needs a policy to cover the gaps in coverage? Does he have any idea how arrogant and self-important he sounds?

    • HanaFiveO

      Doubt it. He actually tweeted that he saw being called an elitist a compliment.

      • dwsmokin

        Gotta love the ones that at least admit that they’re arrogant, elitist, and think they’re smarter than anyone else. The rest just deny it and hide behind calling us names.

      • Bill Dalasio

        So, in other words, Tommy Christopher lacks a basic understanding of the English language.

        Here’s a hint, Tommy, you drooling imbecile, elitist is not a synonym of elite.


    In January, better bring a mop. Leftists heads will all explode due to the rising prices they “unexpectedly” got, because they were too ignorant, and too stupid, to realize the dangers of Obama, instead blindly following him out of political correctness, as well as the media subconsciously telling them to.

    • BrendaK

      I’d agree wholeheartedly, except for the inclusion of the word ‘subconsciously’ — pretty sure the MSM knew exactly what they were (and are still) doing.

      • ICOYAR

        I meant “subconsciously” as in the leftists taking all the information from the MSM

  • WhoFarted

    I know shiite. It’s in the WH.

  • RumDoooogie

    hmm and I wonder how they plan on paying for a single payer system…well we all know potus and congress would be exempt anyways

  • tops116 ✓Quipper

    “The only reason people “like” pre-ACA plans is they know shit about them.”

    Really? And here I thought they liked them because they were cheaper than the bilge Team Obama is forcing down America’s throat (and exempting themselves from).

    But hey, by all means, I encourage Democrats everywhere to embrace Tommy’s “You don’t know what you need” garbage. I’m sure it will play real well next year.

  • JC

    So, people are too dumb to know what is best for them?? Of course that only applies to people that don’t like obamacare, if you support it then you’re a smart cookie!! Oh and when I think of healthcare experts, I think of President Obama, I mean he probably wrote a paper on it in college, who are we to argue with that level of expertise.

    • JC

      and a Socialist idea like ObamaCare is an automatic A at any college.

  • fearnot6

    Why write about Tommy Christopher. Thats like getting your news from Jay Carney, only TC loves Obama more. TC could not tell the truth if his life depended on it

  • Jim J

    If I like your plan you can keep your plan.

  • Thomas, Snarkmaster General

    The only reason people like Mediaite is because they don’t know crap about Tommy Christopher.

    • keyboard jockey

      Well you know he is a connoisseur of health insurance products/ Basically he’s doubling down on the government knows better then the individual consumer.

      If she liked her health insurance and the president said she could keep her so called “acme” plan why can’t she just keep it like the president repeated ad nauseam?

      It’s bait and switch he got her vote, and now he switched his pitch.

  • alanstorm

    “Although not as well as they’d be with single payer or Medicare for all.”

    This is what passes for thought on the left.

    Single-payer? Run by the same geniuses who couldn’t get a website working in 3 years – and weren’t honest enough to admit it? Single-payer is a monopsony, a market with one buyer. Biggest one I can think of offhand is the Pentagon. Much as I admire (what’s left of) our military, no one in their right mind would hold up the Pentagon as a marvel of thrift and efficiency. And this would be better than the previous system? By what metric?

    Medicare for all? Please elucidate the profound differences between that and single-payer, genius-boy.

    Who is this Tommy Christopher, and why is he trying (and failing) to imitate an adult?

    What a pathetic specimen.

    • AMERICAN Kafir™✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈwhitey

      Problem> Reaction> Solution.

    • bupalos

      Wouldn’t the best government monopsony example for “medicare for all” be…Medicare?? Which has lower cost and higher patient satisfaction than the average private?

      I admit I don’t understand how pharma, docs, and hospitals haven’t taken over Medicare like Halliburton, Raytheon, etc. have taken over the Pentagon. But they haven’t. It’s a good point to think about whether they could or would if it was expanded.

      • alanstorm

        Not sure what point you’re trying to make.

        “Which has lower cost and higher patient satisfaction than the average private?” Substantiate this. I keep hearing it, but I see no evidence.

        Your second paragraph is nonsense. Defense companies have not “taken over” the Pentagon. Of course, they’re trying to win bids and sell product – that’s what companies DO. Do you think it’s any different in Medicare – that drug companies are NOT trying to get their product on “approved” lists for Medicare?

        My point still stands. Medicare is going broke, lots of doctors won’t deal with it. Government can’t run it NOW. who in their right mind would think that .GOV could run an expanded version? What miracle would make this happen?

        • bupalos

          About 19 seconds on google:

          I work in foreign language translation which sends me to at least 2 military contracting conventions every year, as well as to certain military contractor in Atlanta we all know. I don’t have the same kind of ‘in’ with Medicare, so I’m perhaps naive there. But my mil contracting experience lets me know we buy planes for Nigeria for 1 significant reason: because a certain contractor in Atlanta wants us to. Somehow generals and politicians sign off on it, but It’s clear where the motivation comes from and how the hammers end up costing $500 a piece.

          I’m no expert but I can see the results and I think there has to be at least somewhat more of an oppositional structure within medicare, just judging from the results (lower fee for service and drug costs than private.) Somehow it works out so that while the pentagon seems to negotiate prices up, Medicare negotiates them down.

          >>>Medicare is going broke, lots of doctors won’t deal with it.>>>

          It going “broke” has little to do with poor management (again, it pays less for what it buys, has less overhead and higher satisfaction) than the fact that it simply isn’t funded. A couple of married seniors today where one spouse worked paid in something like 100k and gets 500k in benefit. You can say “hey, we can’t afford to be that generous to our seniors,” but you can’t say it’s some kind of management or efficiency problem.
          As to the idea that “lots of doctors won’t deal with it,” it actually has higher acceptance than private and it’s rate of acceptance has grown faster as well over the last decade.

          • alanstorm

            Sorry, not accepting government publications in order to validate government’s claims.

            Re: drug prices, Right now, Medicare and other government services negotiate lower drug prices. Who picks up the difference? Who will pay that if everyone’s in Medicare?

            “(again, it pays less for what it buys, has less overhead and higher satisfaction)” It pays less? Define. Drugs? Services? What? Less overhead and higher satisfaction? I asked for evidence before. Saying it again isn’t evidence.

            Your last paragraph is incoherent. Paying out 500K for 100K input IS bad management.

        • bupalos

          I guess you can’t post links here, so you’ll need to google yourself but every study you can find will have medicare at the top of patient satisfaction.

          Then I had a long post explaining my involvement in mil-industrial, ending with the bottom line that when pentagon hammers cost 30% more than market and medicare services 30% less, that’s some evidence of which one is run for who.

          Then on medicare going broke, that’s a political funding issue, not mismanagement. They pay less for more to higher rates of satisfaction. Then to the thing about doctors fleeing medicare, again google it, simply not true, medicare has the higher acceptance and growing faster than private.

          Sorry for the shorthand, lost the 1st post I guess because I included lijnks for you.

  • Michael C Stephenson

    We’re approaching the point where some smug left media eunuchs need some hands on intervention.

    • keyboard jockey

      Or simply ignored.

  • Scotty G.

    Journalism of yesteryear: “Our readers want to know….”
    Journalism of today: “You don’t know sh%t”

  • Mr. Fever Head

    Tommy Christopher is an Obama butt sniffer.

  • Michael Rice

    Maybe she needed to pass her insurance to know what was in it. Wait, it’s a bad thing she supposedly didn’t know “shit”, the Dems were perfectly fine with passing a bill they didn’t know “shit” about?????

  • Brian

    I bet he calls himself “pro-choice”, too.

  • Al’s Sad Grampa ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Dear Mr. Christopher,

    Thanks for admitting to all that you are familiar with s#!t.


    The American Citizens

  • gridlock2

    Americans are too stupid to care for themselves. We need the government to tell us to come in from the rain.

  • curmudgeoninchief

    Oceania has always been at war with East Asia. Remember that.

  • Gringao

    That Almighty God that we have bureaucrats with asses the shapes of their chairs in distant cities to tell us what our goals, values and decisions ought to be. Perhaps a kommisar will show up at Tommy’s place to set him straight one day, too.

    • BrendaK

      The direction our government is going, that day will be soon…very soon.

      • bupalos

        Get you tinfoil hat on NOW!!

  • D.I.

    Can anyone name one instance when someone in this administration told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth on any issue or any subject?


    • cmazzJK

      Why tell the truth when the media spins for you and portrays your batant fallacies as honest mistakes

  • Thad Puckett

    Most journalists are mere propagandists. Tommy Christopher proves the point.

  • Vitiosum

    Newflash Tommy, many people understand their health insurance and healthcare. You know absolutely nothing about my healthcare and therefore should keep your pompous piehole shut. Elitist dimwit!

  • Pat Arnold

    Speaking of contemptible Tommy, are you auditioning to replace Jay Carney with your avatar? You have that snarky “I’m better than you are” look down

  • JR48

    The rest of us don’t want to pick up the tab if Diane gets sick? Well, you missed a spot. The rest of us don’t want to pay for abortion coverage, contraceptives, in vitro fertilization and maternity care when we’re menopausal, either.

    But hey, Diane gets to pay for that! Woot! She’s getting a better deal. She may not be able to afford to eat paying that sort of premium, but she can get all warm and fuzzy thinking about how she can use her pediatric vision care…

    • bupalos

      This is a more sensible attack. It’s true that the ACA is an attempt to homogenize risk and cost, and there are marginal economic winners and losers in that approach. Many prefer the types of systems that at worst is spun as a “health lottery” and at best “rugged individualism.”

      Personally I think health is about the best place for a collective compact. Competing on who has the better kidneys or cheaper reproductive system doesn’t do anything for me.

  • tjp77

    “but the whole idea behind the Affordable Care Act is that the rest of us are not happy having to pick up the tab if Dianne gets a disease, has an accident, or otherwise needs to go to the hospital…”

    Wait, what? How does a plan that FORCES everyone to pay healthcare subsidies of over 30% of the population NOT equate to the rest of us ‘picking up the tab’ for them?

    That statement made no sense whatsoever.

    • beebop1952

      He’s used to the sheeple nodding off before they get to this nonsense …

    • bupalos

      He should have said less of the tab. When Dianne maintains phoney coverage and ends up at the emergency room, we pay more than if we partially subsidize her and treat her within a regular group care system.

      It’s spun to it’s maximum (or simply dead accurate if Dianne made over 60k or so), but it isn’t nonsense.

  • BrendaK

    Interesting that this person would like for us all to know that he is an expert on shjt. He might even call himself a shjt connoisseur — a veritable Renaissance man-of-shjt.

    I would respond to him that while he obviously does not know anything at all about Shinola, he is definitely up to his eyebrows in shjt*.

    *For those among us that don’t get the reference, I’m saying the man ‘doesn’t know shjt from Shinola,’ which is an old fashioned way of saying that he is an idiot.

  • rivers

    What an ass. And by the way, who thinks it is wise to have people who have nothing but disdain for your intelligence and your personhood making healthcare decisions for you? My Lord, we know Obama thinks Tea Party people are terrorists, WHY would he do ANYTHING that benefits people he scorns on a regular basis?

  • TocksNedlog

    Obama: “If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan — period.”
    Xtopher: “If you like your plan, you don’t know sh*t — the government needs to choose your plan for you!”

  • descolada9

    Who is this numbnut??

    • TruDat

      A fluffer for a gay porn company.

  • Leah Keever

    It doesn’t take ANY brains to be a “journalist” these days. Obviously.

  • Terry

    Did you notice Tommy’s last tweet is crying about universal health care and “medicare for all”? This is Obama’s ultimate goal, as he expressed to the SEIU in 2008. Expect to hear this crap a LOT more in the coming weeks from the holier than thou leftists.

    • beebop1952

      Here’s the thing. Liar Liar CIC on Fire so NO LONGER BELIEVABLE.

  • Mark81150 Never/Trump/Hillary

    Christopher… You’re such an expert?

    You’ve sunk to being the lowest bottom feeder in the MSM Obama adoration society..

    I do know what my plan covered, and do know how much my payouts shot through the roof.. when your King Dick cut billions to fund this nightmare from Medicare..

    I get a letter two MONTHS after the increase, telling me point blank, you are no longer eligible for part B prescription coverage.. so a disabled man with a wife and minor children on a fixed income, just had his costs go from 74 bucks a months for meds.. to 248 dollars a month..

    and even with my wife working full time, we are only making 41,000 a year.. so, do we stop paying our utilities… or just quit buying groceries you flaming asshat? Or should I just stop taking them…. and deal with the daily agony of a mangled spine without them to feed the kids?

    I hope you read this you ass..

    Your beloved Medicare is just another democrat party slush fund you raid whenever you need to buy somebody off…

    and you pricks accuse the GOP of wanting to cut it?

    and when Obama did, you buried it deep lest the addled seniors and disabled catch on to the rigged scam you democrats run..

    one problem..

    We still get the bill… so tell me how stupid I am Tommy,.. I’m not seeing the family budget shot to Hell by lying thieving democrats..

    I would KILL to be BACK on private insurance, because they never, ever rose to this level of vile incompetence like Medicare managed..

    So go ahead choad, tell me, I’m to stupid to know the perfection of the Obamatopia..

    you nasty bootlicking asskissing apologist for corrupt incompetence.

    I never thought the left would be stupid enough to confess,.. they have contempt for the very people they claim to care about.. we’re just pawns to be spent attacking their enemies.. and as worthy of respect as a plastic game piece..

    and to think… this choad tried to claim he was a reasoned classic liberal in 09.. and not another kneejerk leftist reactionary..

    • bupalos

      I don’t get it. You got kicked off Medicare part B or had your premium raised because of the ACA?? Please explain. The 248 dollar figure is interesting because that is the amount that has been circulating in a fraudulent email chain letter that is about on the level of something from one of the 3000 Nigerian princes.

  • Rob

    Undoubtedly there are substandard plans out there basically not worth having but if the honesty of “If you like your plan, you can keep it” depends on Obama/liberals deciding whether you actually like your plan there was never anything honest about it.

    • beebop1952

      You know something? I am not in the least bit convinced that the guy who “didn’t know” can pick anything better than you or me.

  • Dick Beninya

    Insanity reigns

  • beebop1952

    This moron talking head (excuse the redundancy) doesn’t know sh it about real world. Doubling a premium and tripling your deductible is not better. And certainly when as someone whose RETIREMENT benefits (not union) must now be covered for pregnancy related expenses. And the lies? Over and over and over and over just to get re-elected …. there’s that …

  • ClinkinKY

    Tommy Christopher, the guy who lobbed a softball question to Jay Carney last week. Tommy Christopher, the guy who still lives in his Mom’s basement. Meh.

  • dwpittelli

    And I thought Republicans were supposed to be the paternalistic party!

  • kateorjane

    The more I read/hear what the Obama crowd say about Obamacare the more they show themselves to be arrogant AHs just like their demigod.

  • Sketti

    Tommy what does the folks in DC think I should wear to work today so I can happily pay for my “undocumented” neighbor’s government check? Don’t want to look stupid, thanks bro!

  • Richard Nightwood

    The leftists would like to take a moment to extol the benefits of camp life as well as the joy of seeing the countryside between the slats of a swaying boxcar.

  • M F Scotto

    If you support single-payer, that is the definition of not knowing sh!t about health care.

  • cscape

    Earth to Tommy…… the hidden BOOGEYMAN in the Obamacare health plans are the sky high deductibles….. In other words – it’s great UNLESS and UNTIL you GET SICK!!!!!

  • MaMa1

    In other words, you’re stupid if you don’t believe Obamas lies!

  • bo1921

    People like tommie are really despicable – notice they didn’t talk like this before obamacare was passed. Pathetic.

  • TruDat

    “Tommy Christopher” is a condenscending simpleton without a clue; nothing more than an Obama fluffer.

    He’s the nimrod who asked the stupid question at the WH briefing about delaying heart attacks. He admitted he had no insurance and had a heart attack (due to smoking and obesity) so WE probably had to pick up the tab for that.

    In other words, he’s your typical left-wing moocher.

  • MaMa1

    None of this changes the fact that he lied,repeatedly, to the entire country.

  • $18912735

    Ooooh, Tommy Christopher can say the “s” word… he is sooooooo cool, and soooooo right… because he can say the “s” word.

    • Arkuy The Great

      In the early days of the Internet there was a .wav file making the rounds consisting of a stuffy, academic type giving a detailed lecture on the F-bomb. He concluded his talk with an exhortation to use the word as often as possible because “it will identify the content of your character immediately.” So it is with overuse the the other members of the “Seven Words” or derivatives and combinations thereof. Tommy is the poster-child.

  • Arkuy The Great

    Does Tommy live in some alternative universe?

    “That’s not what he said, which kinda proves my point.”

    No, it is EXACTLY what he said. Having any sort of meaningful discussion with these people is pointless when they deny the facts placed right in front of their faces.

  • $18912735

    I do agree with Tommy, though… most Americans do not know “s”…

    As proof, I give you – Barack Obama, twice elected President of the United States.

  • bupalos

    It’s a little odd that you guys are running this hard with the “they think they know better than us” outrage on an example where the lady clearly wasn’t getting anything like what she thought. I’m not sure it was a scam exactly, but it wasn’t far from that. I mean, that “policy” covered very nearly nothing. The only practical way it was not a waste of money was was if she went to the doctor like exactly 18 times a year…no more, no less.

    The noble right could do better than screeching about the right to wire money to nigerian princes, even when not having that right does indeed smack of “elitism” I guess.

    The reality here for all the Fox media appearances upcoming for her, is that under ACA plans she will end up paying about 4x as much for something with well over 20x the actuarial value of what she had, and the public coffers and her creditors will have more protection from her financial health risk.

    • $29561723

      the idea of free will is SO foreign to you, even still. You’re a useful idiot. YOu have no idea of freedom. None.

      Even if Progs like you actually achieved Utopia, I would choose to NOT be a part of it. I choose liberty.

      Leave me the F alone.

      • bupalos

        Really kind of think you’re over-reacting there, but in the words of the hippies, if it feels good, do it.

        >>>Leave me the F alone.>>>


    • alanstorm

      You are wrong.

      Tommy-boy – and now you – are arguing that since one woman has substandard insurance (according to you and Tommy-boy, neither of whom know the details of the plan) that everyone with an individual policy has substandard insurance. Don’t try to claim misinterpretation, that is your argument.

      That’s not with either of your spheres of responsibility to determine.

      • bupalos

        It’s actually quite the reverse. The lady in question was cherry-picked by the critics, not that particular ACA defender, to create some very misleading broad outlines that anyone should know are bunk. $56 insurance?! Sure. Right. Obamacare killed that great $56 insurance we all could have bought back in the golden days.

        We do know the specifics of that plan, you can follow the links and find out the exact company, policy, and details. It paid $50 per procedure, and covers very nearly nothing else. That lady was not covered by “insurance” in any meaningful sense, and the fact that she thought the $50 was a co-pay kind of does suggest she just didn’t know what she had.

        I’m not denying in any way that there are some people that will have an increase in healthcare costs from the ACA and be forced through grouping to subsidize the health needs of others. But most people, and the system as a whole, will benefit economically, and no one is getting anything like the kind of onerous increase being spun up here. Everyone’s healthcare costs have been rising at incredible rates for decades, plans have been cancelled, employers have been dropping coverage….none of this is very new. But now it all will be laid at the feet of the ACA.

        • alanstorm

          “But now it all will be laid at the feet of the ACA.”

          Why, yes it will, because they own it now. The government will be running the health insurance industry like a public utility.

          “I’m not denying in any way that there are some people that will have an increase in healthcare costs from the ACA and be forced through grouping to subsidize the health needs of others.” You’d better NOT deny it. You support it.

          “But most people, and the system as a whole, will benefit economically,” Horsecrap. Why do you believe, after 200 years of evidence, that government can run ANYTHING well?

          “Everyone’s healthcare costs have been rising at incredible rates for decades…” Yes. What makes you believe that government can control this – WITHOUT rationing care?

          Your naive faith in government would be touching if it wasn’t so dangerous.

          • bupalos

            >>>Why do you believe, after 200 years of evidence, that government can run ANYTHING well? >>>

            I dunno. I think various governments including the US have done well with roads, bridges, schools, parks, national defense, meteorology, food safety, building integrity… lots of things. It’s a great country. Proud to live here. There are lots of things a polity can do better cooperating together and agreeing than in a free competition for resources.

            But strictly in your inflationary terms, the government is already “running” the healthcare system for those over 65 and those in poverty, which might be close to half of the medical economy. The fact that medicare pays less for more, has lower overhead, and higher satisfaction than privates does kind of suggest that dreams of anarcho-libertarian healthcare utopias are greatly exaggerated. It isn’t fully funded, but that’s not rally a management issue so much as a political one. Having employers “running” the healthcare system isn’t all biscuits and gravy either.

            There are things that can stem the rise in healthcare costs (lifting AMA’s doctor limits would be one) but given the apparently limitless ceiling of medical technology, obviously some kind of rationing of care has to occur. I think such rationing decisions can be much more effective, efficient, and moral when made consciously by a polity than by simply letting dollars decide it. I understand you folks may think differently and try to avoid shouting “horseshit” at you and understand where you are coming from. I don’t seem to get too far with that.

  • GadsdenJazz

    I don’t know why that assclown Christopher is in my stream if I don’t get the chance to shout down bullshit like this.

  • BlackBettysBlog

    I have always felt secure knowing that the privileged elite know what is good for me.

  • dwok

    And once again a minion of the plutocracy shows some skin.

    “You can’t think for yourself”….”You don’t know what’s best for you”….”You think you know better than those who mandate seat belts and pasteurized milk”..

    Go to hell !!

  • SeanR64

    So when the government tells women that making abortion illegal for whatever reason the government and journalists decide, that will be okay with Tommy Christopher too? Because women don’t know shit what is best for them.

  • $29561723

    should I bow, or should I curtsy, mi’lord?


  • walterc

    Maybe we should have everyone in America spend a night in a Holiday Inn so they can figure out their health insurance plan.

  • richard40

    If the mandated benfits driving these cancellations had been confined to truly essential stuff, like hospitalization, emergency room, and expensive treatments for potentially fatal diseases, basically the kind of very expensive stuff that is essential to saving your life, and is covered by a decent bare bones catarosophic plan, I could buy it. But these politically motivated hacks threw in mandates that either could be covered out of pocket, or were purely politically motivate things many dont want or need. Basically anything that had a large special interest group wanting it, or a smaller group that gave them enough graft, got their benifits forcibly mandated.
    And these elitist busybody power mad hacks have the gaul to cancel longly held plans for millions of ordinary americans, to give them garbage they dont want, and they expect us to thank them for saving us from our own stupidity.

    If these exchange plans were so great, people would be eager to buy them. Good products dont need gov mandates to outlaw the competition and force people to buy them. Welcome to the new tyranny, and unlike past ones they have the gaul to tell us it is for our own good.

  • richard40

    Here is what auto insurance would look like if obama ever got control of it:
    1. Your standard minimum liability policy that most states mandate would be forcibly cancelled as insufficient, and a scam. New plans would only be available if they comply with gov mandates for sensible insurance.
    2. The mandated liability cap would be tripled after lobbying by the trial lawyers.
    3. The auto body dealers, after proper lobbying and graft, would get collision made mandatory.
    4. The auto mechanics do the same, and add oil changes, tuneups, brake repairs, and any other routine auto maintenance as part of the policy mandates. They call it preventive care.
    5. To save money the list of allowable repair shops would be restricted to only the cheapest and most unreliable, but all of them good dem donors. If you want a better repair shop the plan you must pay repeair coverage for wont pay for it.
    6. A mandate goes to auto repair shops covered under the network saying they must comply with new green regulalions, and must have diversity hiring, regardless of applicant quality. The remaining decent auto repair shops leave the network.
    7. You could no longer shop for insurers how you pleased, but would have to go through a gov website that does not work. Those with cancelled policies are uninsured for now.
    8. A group claiming they can fix autos, keep them from breaking, and prevent you from having accidents, by scientifically phychically channeling energy waves from mother earth, lobby and get added to the manditory preventive maintaince coverage, because they are scientific.
    9. A church claiming they can fix cars by faith healing get denied, not because faith healing does not work any better than channeling energy waves, but because we cant mix politics and religion.
    10. Drivers with terrible accident records and reams of speeding and DUI tickets cant get their rates raised, because it is a prexisting condition. Everybody elses rates go up to make up the difference.
    11. Rates go up so high that you pay more for the new policy than you used to pay for both your old policy, and routine auto care.
    12. When you complain about this, you are told it is all the fault of the evil insurance companies. When you complain to them they tell you they have no choice due to the mandates.
    13. You remember that the president repeatedly garanteed, without qualification, that if you wanted your old policy you could keep it, and if you wanted your old mechanic, you could keep him.
    13. When you complain about the broken garantee, and think you were lied to, you are told that you misunderstood, and the garantee really only applied to plans that met the mandates, and the plan you had was scam insurance, and you should be thankful you were saved from it.
    14. They also had a business mandate that required businesses to buy auto insurance for their full time employees.
    15. After heavy business lobbying and kickbacks, the business mandate is delayed, but the mandate on the rest of us is not.
    16. Businesses start telling all their employees that once the business mandate finally kicks in, they will cut everybody back to partime, to avoid the mandate. your worry about your future paycheck.
    17. Congress, the executive branch, and the court get their own auto insurance, and are exempted from the plan. This is fair because they are in public servants, and are special.
    18. House repubs pass a CR that will delay individual implimentation 1 yr so rollout would also happen to match the business mandate, to remove the gov exemption so everyone gets treated fairly, and there is more time to make sure the website works.
    19. For doing this the house, and the tea party are called hostage takers, terrorists, treasonous, etc. Reid/Obama shutdown the gov to stop this dangerous proposal. Repubs get completely blamed for the shutdown.
    20. When the 600M website fails, you are told the president heard nothing about any website problems until the press told him. You are also told he is very upset, and will definitely get to the bottom of it.
    21. You remember that when the president said the exact same thing after numerous previous scandals, nothing every happened after that, and nobody ever got fired. You wonder why the president only seems to hire people that never tell him anything is wrong until the press reports it.
    22. Prominent dems start calling for a 1 yr delay, to give time to fix the broken website. You remember though, that these same dems called the house repubs terrorists, etc, for proposing the very same thing, and voted to shutdown the gov to prevent it.
    23. As the system continues to fail even worse, prominent dems say the problem is we left too much to the evil private insurance companies and evil private auto mechanics, and the real way to fix it is to have the gov take over them all and go to single payer. You wonder why if one big gov program just failed so badly, the solution is to go to an even bigger one.
    24. As you remember these things, you start thinking that maybe next time you should vote some more repubs into the senate, and consider getting a repub president next time, to punish the dems for so royally screwing everything up. But you know it wont matter, because you know most low info voters dont remember any of this, wont do any thinking, still beleive that the dems are the party of the common people, and love their new free insurance.