Protests against Urban Shield, a convention and series of training exercises for thousands of first responders, began yesterday in Oakland, Calif., with critics citing the program for contributing to the “militarization” of police and fire departments and encouraging police brutality. The training exercises, which attract first responders from as far away as South Korea, coincided with the second anniversary of the Oakland Police evicting Occupy Oakland from their Frank Ogawa Plaza encampment, and hard feeling abound. Here’s a poster for the protests, featuring a pig in partial riot gear roasting on a spit.

https://twitter.com/Anon4justice/status/393493891308994560

Meanwhile, exercises went on as planned today, with exercises involving bomb scares and hazardous material spills.

While no protestors have been reported hurt, CBS San Francisco reports that two firefighters suffered minor injuries Friday during a water rescue exercise.

  • Mead

    Any one of those protester tools would be the first to dial 911 and scream their little faces off if anything big went south on the streets.

    • me

      If the ‘government’ really cared about the safety and security of Americans, they would be closing the Southern border, creating jobs, protecting our healthcare options, and cease from importing hostile, Third World ‘serfs’, that are providing cheap labor for corporations, and preventing a living wage for citizens. They would quit experimenting with ‘globalism’, ‘multiculturalism’, ‘the redistribution of wealth’ from the working classes, and defunding our military. This is just another nail in the coffin of a once-great country.

      • trixiewoobeans

        Right, they’re unconcerned, heck, WELCOMING, to millions of Illegals, many hardcore criminals, streaming over our borders, while Border Agents are told to STAND DOWN, billions of dollars and weapons are given to those sworn to annihilate us, Chicago is a nightly bloodbath with no Police in sight, so who, exactly, do they need this stuff for?

        • conservativechick

          The Tea Party.

          • ARandKsmommy

            Don’t forget those evil Christians as well.

      • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (the true one)

        The only thing the government stands for anymore is their own growth of power and the retention of the same.

    • me

      Back in 2005, the Supreme Court ruled that the ‘police’ are not obligated to protect your life, or the life of your family, if a crime that’s in progress is an eminent threat. The ‘police’ are there to protect property. Period.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06

      • Jay Stevens

        Hardly a new precedent. The precedent goes back 1856 in a Supreme Court case, South v. Maryland.

        “The ‘police’ are there to protect property.” That is wrong. The police are there “to protect society as a whole”. No individual has a right to police protection.

        • Jack Deth

          Unless you are a Democrat on Capitol Hill. Or any major city in the US.

        • Jhn1

          Not quite true.
          Two classes of people have a right to demand government protection, both classes that have had government take the ability to defend themselves away.
          1) prisoners in jail.
          2) involuntarily committed mental patients.
          Everybody else has various options, from seeking government sanction for concealed weapons or martial arts training to moving to a safer area (Court actually stated that living and or working in a gun denying city like NYC or Chicago was your choice – don’t like it move) persons who cannot effectively or legally defend themselves are the only persons with a right to demand the government protect them personally. That is the other half of the lever the judges use to demand overcrowded jails be released.

      • Patrick

        Hmmm that web page is no longer available – thanks NSA. You guys are the best.

        Or you just didn’t copy the link right :)

        It was the latter
        http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0

    • freeinaz

      That’s exactly what I was thinking…….

  • Jason Call

    Let the Occupiers have that hellhole of a city, or send the National Guard like Governor Reagan did at Berkely. Stop militarizing the police. Just stop it.

    • conservativechick

      They’ve been training for this for quite some time. They picked up the pace rapidly in 2009. I think the intimidation of the veterans during the shut down was a dry run. Obama is waiting for his chance to impose Marshall law. It’s not a joke anymore. Our National Guard is training right now; riot and mob control. Members of the military are being asked if they could turn their weapons on fellow US citizens! http://publicintelligence.net/the-militarys-plans-for-social-unrest/

    • conservativechick

      It’s pretty clear who the target is here, after what you saw the Occupy Mob get away with for months. It’s not them!

  • HanaFiveO

    Hate to tell these idiots, but large urban PDs have been doing these simulated situation training drills for decades. It started out as riot/unusual occurrence training and has evolved with the times to include hazardous materials spills, major earthquakes, plane crashes and terrorist incidents.
    Perhaps these brain trusts would rather have the police respond with unicorns and candy the next time the poop hits the fan.

    • me

      Back in 2005, the Supreme Court ruled that the ‘police’ are not obligated to protect your life, or the life of your family, if a crime that’s in progress is an eminent threat. The ‘police’ are there to protect property. Period.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0

      • HanaFiveO

        Yes they did rule that the police had no duty to protect individuals during a major incident. If the police dont respond to your house fire because they dont have the resources to do you cant sue them.

        The court did not however give law enforcement the OK to hide in the stations and refuse to respond either.

        The main focus is to contain the damage (what ever the damage may be). You dont know how you will react until you do, and in real life that is not acceptable, thus the simulated situation training drills

        • me
          • HanaFiveO

            I would invite you to read the actual cases and the courts reasoning and limitations rather than posting and re-posting an article that is misapplied. Or not, up to you.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            I’ll agree his statement isn’t especially applicable to your original point, but he is correct in the fact that the police have NO duty to protect individuals from criminals.

          • HanaFiveO

            I agreed to that fact the first time he posted it.

        • me

          Plus, all of the vibrant ‘multiculturalism’.

          • Maxx

            To answer the question posed by the photo, when the criminals they were typically sent to arrest began having more firepower than their police force.

          • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

            …And aren’t as afraid of the Police or the Justice System we have in place, which makes them feel like they can get away with anything, or get punished with a “slap on the wrist”. There are a lot of Gang kids, etc. out there like that.. Jawamax 8<{D}

          • mike_in_kosovo

            And they need masks, why?

        • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          But sadly, no battle plan survives contact with the enemy– that is to say, you can generally be prepared for what may/not happen, in a no-headless-chickens-us sort of way, but all natural disasters, terror incidents and/or civil unrest are unique and call for good judgment being exercised then and there to mitigate loss of life and property damage. Individual initiative sometimes needs to be taken by responders, scaling up or down as needed. A rote response verging on shock-and-awe may be swatting the fly on the baby’s forehead with a sledge hammer. You need a certain amount of buy-in from the citizenry to succeed. Sadly, the sort of civil defense of the 1950’s of the duck-and-cover variety was risible and turned people off to disaster preparedness. People who engage in modern-day personal civil defense are often stigmatized as some sort of Alex Jones audience nutcases of the “black helicopters” variety. An unprepared populace WILL require shock-and-awe; makes you wonder if certain elements in our society wish to keep us helpless in SHTF situations just so Government can come to the “rescue.”

          • HanaFiveO

            Yes, experience and good judgement are essential elements, but training gets you thinking about your options and training allows you to test those options in a controlled environment. Thats why there is a debrief after incidents. To review the facts, what did and did not work and why.

            Cops come out of the academy with book smarts. They master real world application on the streets.
            Response needs to be proportionate tho.
            When the economy collapses, this is going to be it.

          • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            There may not BE a “controlled environment” which translates to the real-world scenario. Watertown MA, April 2013, prime example of unnecessary shock-and-awe; how do you train for keeping a city locked down? WHY would you?

            To me, telling those people to hunker down and to allow searches of their houses was little short of martial law. And it was on balance an omnishambles– it isn’t how they caught their man.

            Getting people to buy in is more along the lines of getting them to have food and water for several days, not in being taught to cower in their houses.

            Training is an ongoing thing and cannot be accomplished merely with wargame sim’s. It ain’t gonna go to plan on the street. For example– any “aided” case, a case where police help a civilian where the civilian is neither a suspect nor victim of a crime, but is in obvious need, say, of an ambulance, or for someone to come pick them up– a police officer can be instructed to apply certain protocols in dealing with those everyday occurrences to what they might need to do for several of those in a SHTF situations, and it may be well to debrief them on that: “So, Smith– this is what you did, this is the sort of thing you’ll need to do if you have a lot of these in a shift…”, hearing it so many times (s)he can recite it back to the Sergeant. But done in a non-pressure situation, so it will sink in better. And it allows the higher-ups to know the line officers know what to do, since they hear it so much.

          • HanaFiveO

            IMHO, telling those people to hunker down in their homes was indeed Martial law. Any time the government restricts the folks freedom of movement with the promise of punitive action, and suspends the 4th/5th/6th amendments=ML. As I watched that scenario unfold, I was shocked that 1) the city put its citizens under house arrest 2) that the citizens complied for the duration.

            But what was the safe alternative to having innocents caught in the crossfire as the running gun battle ensued? No easy answers there.
            I do agree that Sit-Sims will only take you so far, however speaking from experience, they do make you think and better prepare you for the inevitable.
            For example; an active shooter situation. The assault team enters the location and does a rapid sweep intent on locating the shooter(s) to neutralize the threat(s). In the process, you are literally stepping over the injured/dying, ignoring their pleas for help, not rendering immediate aide. No one is following along behind you, you cant rationalize that someone will help them soon. It goes against the reason most become cops. You really don’t think about that until you have to. Sit-Sims help you to realize this fact and prepare yourself mentally and physically to deal with that reality so that you don’t turn into a quivering bowl of jelly when it happens.

            Same issues with major riot situations. In the LA riots of 1992, resources were stretched so thin and to be rendered useless. The City burned and chaos ruled, it wasn’t until the implementation of Martial Law and National Guard response that order was restored. Many cops and firefighters suffered injuries (inc gunshot wounds) and PTSD. They were not mentally prepared to deal with what happened.

            The Northridge earthquake, utterly collapsed every functioning emergency response and infrastructure system for two weeks. Folks were on their own until resources could hike in and maintain some semblance of order.

            Anyway, I could go on, but why. The point that I’m trying to make is that these Sit-Sims are a vital training tool for first responders. If you aren’t mentally prepared to deal with the chaos major incidents cause, the likely-hood is that you will not perform well or at all and that does no one any good.

            The training needs to be equal (or as realistic and close as possible) to be effective. As society faces greater threats, the training gets ratcheted up accordingly.
            There is of course the very legitimate concern that this type of training desensitizes first responders to citizens. Its a delecate balance and there are no easy answers.

        • chicagorefugee

          Baloney. A court ruled that four police officers can cower in the conductor’s booth while a man is repeatedly stabbed just on the other side of the door.

          No duty to protect. They CAN ‘hide in the stations and refuse to respond,’ and if you sue, you will lose.

          http://gothamist.com/2013/01/27/city_argues_nypd_had_no_special_dut.php

      • freeinaz

        This is why the 2nd amendment is so important. Too bad CA is doing everything they can to erode the 2nd amendment. CA is a prime spot for a major disaster, earthquake, where people will automatically expect the “government” to come to their aid. If help can’t get to you due to road blockage or some other issue you’re on your own. How many of these dolts do you think could provide for themselves for a week? Remember the chaos after Katrina?

        • conservativechick

          How much can the government really HELP in situations like that when every form of communication is down and there are no roads left? They hate it when we say “be prepared.” If you buy survival equipment of any kind, you end up on the terrorist list!

        • tj

          Remember the CA earthquake where the road collapsed on the road below trapping people.

  • FreedomFighter

    This training will also come in handy after Cruz wins the presidency in 2016.

    • ObamaFail

      Or if Hillary wins in 2016 and she continues Obama’s “spend, spend, spend, spend, spend” agenda and leads us into an economic collapse and the libs all lose their freebies (because you just know they would riot at the thought of having to work for a living). Because even Obama cheerleaders from CBS are saying that our debt problem could eventually dismantle the US economy. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/88726-cbs-17-trillion-debt-adding-trillion-dollars-year/ And from what CBS says, when Bush took over in 2000, the national debt was $5 trillion. Bush ran it up to $10 in 8 years, and that included the cost of 2 wars. Obama, in far less time, has nearly doubled it. And by the time he leaves, there isn’t a doubt in my mind that it won’t have gone far past the double mark by the time Obama leaves.

      And sorry to tell you this libs, but electing Hillary because she has a vagina and would be the first female President isn’t going to get our economy back on track. Because her bad record as Secretary of State is proof enough that she’s the last person we need as President. And Obama is proof enough why voting for someone based on a factor that has nothing to do with the way they handle business is a bad move.

    • conservativechick

      Ted Cruz, the Tea Party and basically all conservatives or anyone who stands in the way of the new Progressive agenda… That’s the real target. Why do you think Obama and Co. targeted and intimidated the MILITARY during that last shut down? Why do you think they wanted to ‘make it hurt’ for the tax payers? Observing their responses, maybe? Don’t trust them. I’m not paranoid, just aware!

      • ARandKsmommy

        You on target. Military high ups getting tossed left and right. Our troops are being asked if they will fire on their countrymen. O’s approval dropping. Your not paranoid. Everything O has done is leading to something really bad for his enemies, and later those that worship him.

  • ObamaFail

    I’m sorry, but isn’t Oakland the city where rioters beat a man with a hammer and damaged multiple stores and other properties because of George Zimmerman being found not guilty?

    • nc ✓s & balances

      They’re not training for Mayberry.

  • ObamaFail

    I bet if Urban Shield announced they were training to kill Tea Party members, I bet the libs would be celebrating. But since Urban Shield will make sure cops are prepared for the next series of liberal riots (you know it’ll happen again eventually), the libs want to protest.

  • RumDoooogie

    yea don’t trust us mean firefighters..because u know, we carry guns and stuff

    • me

      Firefighters are the BEST. Thanks for all you do!

  • Matt
    • Jason Call
    • conservativechick

      They’re trying to get those big tank type trucks everywhere. Manchester NH just had an uprising by tax payers over the cost of buying those. They backed off… for now.

      • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

        Remember the movie “Dragnet (1987) #DanAckroyd #TomHanks? In that movie, the L.A.P.D. had both an armored tank with a battering ram, and an F-16 fighter… So for certain situations, they have pretty much what they need to fight crime… And I doubt they would use them to oppress people, or violate Civil and Constitutional rights… Jawamax 8<{D}

    • Karl H

      Large cities do not need them either. Sometime you might want to look into the history of how the Los Angeles SWAT team was formed. There was a time in this nation when Police actively fought against being militarized. And they did so for a damn good reason. Cops used to be people you could trust, now they are just another potential thug to be feared.

      • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

        But when you have a criminal armed with an (“Illegal”) Automatic weapon, ,surrounded by innocent hostages (read:Human Shields) against Patrol Officers with Six-Shooters and Tazer guns, what do you think the outcome will be?
        That’s why they also have snipers, to pin-point the bad guy and take him out, without hurting the hostages. The SWAT commander is taught Tactical methods for just such events. And, as #JohnWalsh #WorldsWildestPoliceVideos points out, if there’s more than one, strength in numbers works, too.. Jawamax 8<{D}

        • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

          EDIT:#SheriffJohnBunnell My Faux pas.. Jawamax 8<{D}

        • Karl H

          And the number of innocent civilians killed and or injured during botched pseudo-military police raids either on wrong addresses or just bad police work out numbers those saved from hostage situations..

          ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.”

          Benjamin Franklin

        • Ronald Green

          Ain’t no cops left in this country carrying 6 shooters, John. They all carry 15 shot Barrette, Glock, Smith & Wesson, or some other equivalent hand gun. you would be surpirsed at what is riding around in the trunk of their cars too. Some security guards and rent-a-cops still carry wheel guns, but no police.

        • Guest

          there are no cops carrying six shooter in this country anymore John. They all carry 15 shot Glock, Barrette, S & W, or an equivalent hand gun. Some security guards and rent-a-cops still carry wheel guns but not many. You’d be surprised to see what’s in the trunks of most cop cars today too.

  • arttie

    I seem to remember a political convention in Chicago that was being disrupted by “community organizers.” The PD figured out that they needed to plan for the eventual recurrence of this type of event.

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      As Mayor Daley said, “to preserve disorder.”

  • Ronald Green

    Yes, they need training and all, but when the cops look like soldiers, are being trained like soldiers, and therefore act like soldiers; it’s a problem. And then when we get cops who shoot 13 year boys for playing ‘army’ with their friends, we wonder why?

    • Jhn1

      Did you see the ‘toy’ looks like a real gun after the end with the orange tip was sawn off.
      http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/10/not-a-pop-tart-13-year-old-with-toy-ak-47-shot-by-police/

      • Ronald Green

        And your point is? Is it illegal to walk with a rifle in this country, especially with a toy rifle? What happened to this kid’s civil rights? Where was his due process? And the better question is, would you be so blaze’ about it if it was your 13 year old son? Or are you a liberal pansy that wants this kind of ‘security’? Oh, that’s right your 13 year old son wouldn’t playing Army with his friends carrying an air soft pellet rifle would he. They shot the kid when he turned around to see who they were yelling at. It’s their training to shoot first and ask questions later. Is that the kind of police you want?

        • Jhn1

          Well, to start with, it would be illegal for a 13yr.old to possess an airsoft gun in California. The original paintball marker revisions allowed use, but banned possession (???). I don’t see any reason for airsoft to have a lower standard than that. Even before the orange tips it was seen as a problem for LEOs to identify or differentiate between real guns, replicas, and “toys”. The orange tip was to have been a clear line but various reasons and excuses ignored that safety feature. Nobody would have seriously questioned it if he had been caught using an orange tipped airsoft gun on his families property. Or using an orange tipped airsoft gun on a friend’s property with some (even pretend) adult supervision. Observers (even LEOs) would have presumed the airsoft gun was owned by somebody over 18 and the kid had the use of it. Conscientious LEOs might have questioned the house for a parent or guardian to confirm that, but the noise signature is not that of a firearm whether it has had the orange tip illegally removed or not. To carry one openly down the streets of a city with a burgeoning gang problem?

          I believe it was, and is, suicidal, just as much as Russian Roulette.

          And he put the local Police in just that position. Decide in a split instant if this is a stupid kid with a replica or toy (when that toy has been altered to eliminate the obvious indicator that it is a toy) or if it is a child-soldier of the emerging gang presence locally. Decide now, and take some action. If the LEO is wrong, *somebody*gets*shot*, guaranteed. If the LEO estimates that what he sees is a child soldier (drug gang member) with a gun, the kid carrying a toy is not going to react to a reasonable order from the police to drop the weapon without protecting his toy. And the kid gets shot. If the LEO estimates that what he/she sees is a kid with an airsoft “replica” they will probably hesitate and let the gang member get the first shots off (medium or full power rifle cartridges will go through standard police vests and even SWAT vests except for the actual trauma plates) (and one thing police academy training agrees with experienced cops’ “real world training” is that police are to go home alive at the end of the shift). Really stupid for anyone having any Airsoft to not have thought through the ramifications, and warned anyone else using it of whatever is relevant to the situation.

          I think if he was really “carrying for a friend” the family would have already lawyered up to go after the “friend” who illegally modified the toy so as to change the legal category from “toy” gun to “replica” gun. Maybe even pushed to have that “friend” charged with some crime to make the lawsuit easier.

          If he wasn’t “carrying for a friend” then the probability that some malicious intent was there skyrocket. I suspect that if you are honest, many many bad things might be done in that circumstance.

          There are airsoft clubs. Check with them and see how they handle safety and what they feel about street carry of airsoft “toys” and more-so airsoft “replicas”.

          J’hn1
          former NAPRA (paintball referee) member

          • Guest

            We are talking about a 13 year boy here, not an adult. So in other words, it was the kids fault that a Sheriff’s deputy shot him for carrying a toy and you would be fine with it if the kid was your 13 year old son. And Windsor Kalifornia has a burgeoning gang problem so you feel that the cops should shoot first and check out what’s really going on after they’ve killed everybody involved? ” Reasonable order to drop the weapon” yelled at a 13 year old kid out playing with his friends and who does see that his toy is a weapon. He turns around to see who the cop is yelling at and and Mr. Super cop/soldier shoots him 7 times, and you’re okay with that? If that is true and with all the lame excuses you just posted, it probably is, you are definitely part of what is wrong in this country.

          • Ronald Green

            We are talking about a 13 year boy here, not an adult. So, by what you’re saying here; it was the kid’s fault the cop shot him for carrying a toy and you would be okay with it if it had been your 13 year old son. Also Windsor Kalifornia has a burgeoning gang problem so you are okay with the cops shooting first and finding out what really is going on after they’ve killed everyone involved. He made a “reasonable” demand for the kid to drop his “weapon” and the kid, not seeing his toy as a weapon turns around to see who Mr. Super Cop/Soldier is yelling at and Mr. Super Cop/Soldier shoots him seven times. If you’re okay with that, and buy all the lame excuses you just posted, you are; then you are part of what is wrong in this country. You’re afraid of your own shadow and want “Big Brother” to protect you. Be very careful what you ask for there, you just might get it. And when it’s you they’re doing it to, remember; you asked for it.

  • Karl H

    If you equip and train civilian police to act as soldiers you should not be surprised when they act and make decisions like soldiers.

    It is a dangerous ground to tread as a soldier values his own life far more than the lives of anyone not part of their unit. When that mind set infiltrates the civilian police you can expect situations that will place good and bad guys on one side of the line and psuedo-military police on the other side of the line. Do not expect them to serve and protect as much as they will suppress and ignore.

    Better get used to being told to STFU and do as you are damned well told by the cops you called to protect you. And if you should express a dislike for such treatment expect a good tazer followed up with a solid beating and strip search.

    Not that those are the kinds of stories we see more and more from civilian cops. it is not like they are shooting old men in their homes or beating kids or molesting drunk women or killing soldiers in their homes. Those things never happen the cops are always do the right thing and the more we militarize them the friendlier they get..

    Sometimes I really think it would be best if this nation just crumbled like the left wants it to. If for nothing more than to thin the heard of so many stupid sheeple. I doubt anything less could wake up the freekin zombies on the left and right..

    Just for fun the next time you see a cop in full battle rattle try reading him the bill of rights and see how far you get before you need reconstructive dental surgery. Let me know how that goes for you.

  • Jack Deth

    Gotta find a way to pay for all those high tech toys and cool pants!

    The cops and everyone else are just tightening the perimeter around major “sanctuary cities”. Before delivering some high cost, mechanized “Urban Renewal”.

    Then, watch your property value plummet as taxes soar even higher. Intriguing way to get the low income, miscreant gang related riff raff out of one town. And into another.

  • Maxx

    Oh great….even more photos of whiny liberal women nobody wants to have sex with….

    ….except whiny liberal men.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXcsNo3CYAARubM.jpg

    • conservativechick

      And other whiny liberal women…

  • http://easyemergencypreparedness.com/ Randy Meyer

    People should understand the necessity of preparedness.

  • David Johnson

    Are they preparing for EBT Cards going down again? Or when the people see what their insurance is going to cost them??

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    It’s funny in a Karma kind of way….If these hippies are the first ones affected when a disaster strikes, they’ll be screaming for… (All together now…) ..A BETTER RESPONSE FROM FIRST RESPONDERS! But don’t let reality get in the way of their “Beliefs”… Jawamax 8<{D}

  • lescy

    The demonstrations at Urban Shield Oakland were way too small! I was expecting a much larger crowd!! What happened to all the people?

    Someone was talking about people under MARTIAL LAW getting TAXED!! Discussions or planning sessions are supposed to be happening about this…or is it just rumor?

  • John Alvarado

    So less funding for protection and more funding for schools… So that kids can be indoctrinated more by liberals like you?

  • BeauDCrab

    You will be told the fences are for your protection. Many will be grateful for the security.

    Don’t say you weren’t warned.