Fast food workers went on strike at least twice this summer to demand higher wages. A group called Fast Food Forward organized a walkout in July in seven cities, and another strike on August 29 made national headlines as workers demanded a minimum wage of $15 an hour. California took a step toward making that dream a reality today by passing a bill to raise the minimum wage to an “historic” $10 an hour by 2016.

Workers who can’t raise their families on a measly $8 an hour, California’s current minimum wage, will have to wait until 2016 to make just two-thirds of that living wage they’ve demanded … assuming they still have employers by then. Sounds pretty stingy, but at least it’s a step.

https://twitter.com/DavidJMatza/status/378540150050926592

Look on the bright side, struggling business owners:

  • Maxx

    Since most of the jobs the President seems to be creating are minimum wage jobs, this is great news for Californians living on Ramen noodles.

  • Stephen L. Hall

    Business will be booming . . . along the borders of neighboring states.

    • freeinaz

      As long as they keep their progressive ideas and ways out of the other states.

  • https://twitter.com/Captain_Cy_kun Cy

    Because if any state is financially secure enough to have a double digit minimum wage, it’s definitely California…

    • screen_name_already_taken

      Hope that was satire..Calif is broke.

  • ObamaFail

    Isn’t California the liberal run state that is always on the verge of bankruptcy? Isn’t it bad enough that Obamacare is hurting businesses without them having to raise minimum wage as well?

    Thanks to Obamacare, the people getting wage hikes will either be forced out of a job, or their hours slashed so bad that the raise they are getting won’t help them at all. And of course, Pelosi is all behind anything that makes things harder on American businesses. She did push Obamacare through after all.

    If businesses weren’t having such a tough time already, and if Obamacare wasn’t coming to make things worse, and the economy wasn’t getting increasingly worse, a wage hike would be a good thing. But basic economics tells you that the people currently celebrating will be cursing later.

    • Stephen L. Hall

      It is never enough for those who lack economic understanding.

    • ObamaFail

      Which makes these two pictures relevant.

    • trixiewoobeans

      Just call it Californetroit.

  • CatHerder

    In CA, $10 an hour is a bitter joke. I worked in Ontario, CA, back in ’88. I was lured there from TX with a promise of $18.30 an hour and, foolishly, I jumped. It was more than I had ever made in all my time as a journeyman carpenter. Then, when I got there, I found out a beginner plumber’s apprentice made over $25/hour. Yeah.

  • ObamaFail

    You know why raising minimum wage is a bad idea at this point? Because the economy is in the toilet and businesses are struggling. Hours are being slashed and millions of Americans have been cut to part-time. This is just California’s attempt to hurt businesses further. Plus, the Dems in charge there paid attention to their buddies in Colorado being booted out of office. So they are trying to make people happy.

    • sec818

      that’s just crazy common sense talk Gary!!! lol

  • Clayton Grant

    Translation for non-Pelosi speakers: “We, the Democrats, know we can buy your vote for a measly $2 that is not even ours! You are such rubes!”

  • Wiki David

    California… When are you going to run out of feet to shoot?
    Need to make a law so Californians can’t ever leave their state.

    • Liz

      Please don’t do it until I can get the heck out of here!!!!

  • 0bamasnought

    Ah crap, even more of them are going to flood north.
    And people wonder why I call it Watfington State.

  • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

    And what will the skimpy but historic UE rate go up to?

  • nc

    Well isn’t this just great? Less jobs, shorter hours and, oh yeah, higher prices, too.

    Great job, as usual, libbies.

  • Bathing Suit Area

    “Oh no”, said the business owner, “a large portion of my customer base just got raises and will now be able to spend more on my goods and services. I’ll be ruined!”

    • Marvin Nelson

      Idiot. You have absolutely NO clue about how a business works. A 25% increase in the minimum wage will cost jobs, but you are probably living off of mom and dad, so no worries.

      • Markward

        BSA has no clue about many things.

        • Ronald Green

          Yep, he’s still dumber than dirt.

          • TocksNedlog

            That’s NOT true!!!
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            It’s a tie.

          • bluewaternavy

            Just got a complaint from dirt-it’s says it’s smarter then BSA

          • TocksNedlog

            That’s NOT true!!!
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            It’s a tie.

      • Ted H.

        and not factored in is the likely reduction of hours from full time to part time, or even less part-time hrs to compensate.

    • Markward

      Think about it sparky, how will a business deal with increased labor costs. By increasing prices, so that raise, isn’t really a raise when that extra money is now going towards offsetting increased prices.

      • Michael Anderson (WB)

        So if there are no middle men a raise in the minimum wage has at best no effect. However since there are almost always middle men somewhere in the process a minimum wage hike increases the cost of living exponentially, or put another way takes real income from those employees exponentially.

        • Markward

          about like that. It becomes inflationary at a point where its constantly being upped to deal with the inflation which in turn feeds inflation.

      • Onyx

        Making more money by increasing prices… clever. Just one thing: I wonder why the business didn’t think of it *before* labor costs went up?

        • Bathing Suit Area

          You’d almost think that prices are affected by things other than the cost of production.

          • Ronald Green

            Yep, still tied with dirt for intelligence.

        • Shawn Smith

          Because if they do it without cause, people will shift their purchases to other providers. However, if the cost of labor rises for everybody, then everybody raises prices & there’s not competitive disadvantage. These things don’t happen in a vacuum.

    • Black_Conserv_American

      You lack any knowledge of basic economics.

    • Shawn Smith

      Except in reality, a lot of people will be fired.

      It’s basic economics, you raise the cost of X, people will buy less of X. Low-skill labor fits in the place of X. Why is this so hard to understand?

      • Bathing Suit Area

        You’re assuming that the cost of labor is the only thing that will change, ignoring any increase in consumer demand.

        • Shawn Smith

          Which comes first, people being paid, or consumer demand? Which comes first, businesses budgeting payroll, or people being paid? If a business budgets payroll, and can’t afford to employ as many people, what happens?

        • rhodi

          Explain to me how the rise in cost of consumer goods is going to cause
          an increase in consumer demand? Unless of course you are assuming like many of us that many businesses will tank and the remaining businesses can charge whatever the market will bear.

        • Ken Alan Draper

          customer demand? you just raised the cost of living for everybody, that means less disposable income, less disposable income means families spend less money for non essentials.

        • Michael Anderson (WB)

          You’re ignoring the feedback path in the economy that will at best mean no gains for those on minimum wage, and actually be a net decrease in real income.

        • Liz

          There will be no increase in demand. There will be an actual decrease in demand because of the increase in prices to cover the cost of the increase in payroll. Very simple economics!!!

        • TocksNedlog

          People lose jobs because employers can’t afford to pay all of them; businesses have to RAISE prices because the increase in the wages THEY have to pay more than offsets any (alleged) increase in demand. Yeah, yer brilliant!

          • Onyx

            If a business could increase revenue by raising prices, wouldn’t it have already done that? Where is this mythical business that is keeping prices low out of the goodness of its corporate heart?

          • TocksNedlog

            Uh, I dunno. Why don’t you tell me, since I said nothing of the kind.

          • Onyx

            You said that businesses would raise prices in response to being forced to pay higher wages. The main reason to raise prices is to increase revenue. But if raising prices would increase revenue, why wouldn’t the business have *already* raised its prices, even before the forced wage increase?

          • TocksNedlog

            “You said that businesses would raise prices in response to being forced to pay higher wages.”
            — Do you disagree that they would have no choice but to do so?
            “The main reason to raise prices is to increase revenue.”
            — The main reason for a business to raise prices is to ensure that it still makes a net profit.
            “But if raising prices would increase revenue, why wouldn’t the business have *already* raised its prices, even before the forced wage increase?”
            — No, because, nobody is going to pay $10 for a Big Mac. The pricing of products isn’t solely determined by what people can afford to pay; you must also factor in what people are WILLING to pay.

          • Onyx

            You’re right: nobody is going to pay $10 for a Big Mac. That’s why the price of a Big Mac isn’t going to be raised to $10, regardless of the minimum wage. That’s my point; thank you for reiterating it.

          • TocksNedlog

            If the minimum wage is raised to $15 an hour, which is what the ‘striking’ fast-food workers are demanding, then YES it will drive the price of a Big Mac up into that range. In no way whatsoever did I reiterate your point.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            You just said that they won’t raise the price of a Big Mac to $10, because nobody would pay that.

            Thus reiterating the point that prices are affected by a number if market forces, not just labor costs.

          • TocksNedlog

            Gee, thanks for explaining what I said(?)

            Oh, and thanks also for REINFORCING MY POINT that — because of those very same market forces — businesses CANNOT handle drastic increases in the cost of labor. Consumers don’t care how much a business has to pay its workers; they only care about the price they’re being asked to pay for goods & services.

          • Onyx

            You said that businesses would raise prices in response to being forced to pay higher wages. The main reason to raise prices is to increase revenue. But if raising prices would increase revenue, why wouldn’t the business have *already* raised its prices, even before the forced wage increase?

          • TocksNedlog

            Uh, I dunno. Why don’t you tell me, since I said nothing of the kind.

        • TocksNedlog

          People lose jobs because employers can’t afford to pay all of them; businesses have to RAISE prices because the increase in the wages THEY have to pay more than offsets any (alleged) increase in demand. Yeah, yer brilliant!

        • Duddioman

          Stupid, rising prices suppresses consumer demand. =/

          Prices rise to cover increased cost of payroll, or layoffs ensue. Laid-off people don’t consume more, they consume less.

      • Onyx

        It’s not “hard to understand” — it’s easy to understand why someone might think that. But this isn’t the first change in a minimum wage, so you can look at the historical record to decide whether that maxim applies. It doesn’t seem to. (See, e.g., http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/raising-the-minimum-wage-the-debate-begins-again/. ) The burden is on you to explain why this time is different, and *this* particular minimum wage increase is going to lead to “a lot of people [being] fired”.

        • Shawn Smith

          Just curious, do you know why we had minimum wage laws in the first place? I bet you don’t. It was to protect whites & keep blacks out of the labor market. But please, tell me a-a-a-all about how caring and gracious these laws are.

          http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2718/racist_origins_of_the_minimum_wage

          • Onyx

            My point is that your position in this debate is factually wrong, not that its proponents are uncharitable or acting in bad faith. The law can be judged on its merits. If you think the minimum wage *currently* acts to protect whites and keep blacks out of the labor market, make that case.

          • Shawn Smith

            In case you didn’t notice, the original *point* was to create unemployment among a certain segment of the population, but you say it simply doesn’t do that.

        • Shawn Smith

          Just curious, do you know why we had minimum wage laws in the first place? I bet you don’t. It was to protect whites & keep blacks out of the labor market. But please, tell me a-a-a-all about how caring and gracious these laws are.

          http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2718/racist_origins_of_the_minimum_wage

        • Ronald Green

          You might want to look at the manufacturing sector in this country. Oh wait.. you can’t, because much it moved overseas to avoid higher labor costs. Whole industries are practically none existent in the US now because of that… but hey… according to you, no jobs were lost, And quoting a liberal blogger isn’t a viable source.

          • Onyx

            Ad hominem. People that support the minimum wage are the easiest to consult to find real-world numbers (with sources cited) relevant to the argument. (How else am I supposed to rebut an argument that consists entirely of, “Here’s a rule of thumb; don’t you get it?” With a different rule of thumb?) Also, the manufacturing sector doesn’t tend to pay minimum wage, even for entry-level jobs, so it doesn’t seem pertinent here.

          • bluewaternavy

            At the very least many people will lose their jobs when employers are forced to raise pay. Extra money for pay has to come from somewhere-either by less staff or higher prices.

          • Ronald Green

            Where has the US garment making industry gone? They started at minimum wage while they were here. Very few remain and are mostly high textiles. Where has most of the furniture making industry gone? Where have the electronic device assembly places gone? (Things like appliances, computers and cell phones) They left the country, they’re not here anymore. Find a TV made in the US. Find any kitchen or laundry appliance appliance made here. They used to be made here, but not anymore. You can snivel ‘ad hominem’ all you like and evade and ignore the facts all you like but you’re still Wrong. You can consult your backside all day for all I care. I live in the part of the country where textiles and furniture used to be made, those factories are mostly demolished now. The Ream plant shut down 4 years ago and moved their operation to Mexico. They were one of the last still here, and they left because of labor costs. But… hey no jobs were lost. You are only blind to this because you refuse to see. “Real world numbers” my a$$, where are yours?

        • Ronald Green

          You might want to look at the manufacturing sector in this country. Oh wait.. you can’t, because much it moved overseas to avoid higher labor costs. Whole industries are practically none existent in the US now because of that… but hey… according to you, no jobs were lost, And quoting a liberal blogger isn’t a viable source.

    • Shawn Smith

      If you increase the price of commodity X, people buy less X. Please name an exception.

      • Onyx

        I think you understand, on some level, that it’s not that simple. When home prices skyrocket, do people buy less houses? When stock prices are climbing, do people buy fewer stocks? Of course not, because those things are seen as investments that are going to make money for their temporary owners. Pretty clearly workers are also an investment (not a commodity) — you only hire them if you expect to make money by doing so. Which depends on the expected demand for your product, which depends in part on whether your customer base has money to spend.

        • Shawn Smith

          “When home prices skyrocket, do people buy less houses?”

          If the market isn’t distorted by artificially cheap loans mandated by the government, yes.

          • Onyx

            Oh, I forgot that the government caused the housing crash, because poor people or whatever. Why not stick to the substance of the objection; choose any other commodity in history that experienced a run-up in price. Tulips in Holland, internet stocks, whatever. Prices went up, people bought more.

          • Shawn Smith

            Okay, so let me think through what is apparently your argument at this point: If we raise the minimum wage, low-skill labor is going to become a faddish commodity and people will be falling all over themselves to hire high school graduates at $10 an hour.

            Do I have this right?

          • Onyx

            No, not really. I’m trying to help you see that what you apparently think is an iron-clad natural law (“when the price of X goes up, people buy less X”) is more complicated. It depends on how badly you need X, if there’s something else you can substitute for X, if you think the price of X is going to come back down, if purchasing X is tax-deductible, etc. For instance, that maxim doesn’t apply when the price of a commodity is going up at the same time as its ability to generate income. How much income does a service worker generate for a business? It kind of depends on the demand for the service, right? And on whether laying off that worker would make you close on Tuesdays?

          • Ronald Green

            Until suddenly they realized they couldn’t afford it anymore. It’s this thing they call a recession ya know.

        • bluewaternavy

          Hamburgers ain’t homes. I like to go to checkers or sonic-but prices have already risen to unacceptable highs (to say nothing of my Cholesterol!)
          Folks will pay only so much for a burger or big mac. Then they say enough

          • ForTheRepublic

            As a recently-promoted assistant manager at my town’s Sonic, I resent that remark.

            😛

          • bluewaternavy

            Hell we have ONLY one Sonic on Long Island. I love ’em! Right now they are worth the cash-and the hounding from my MD!

          • ForTheRepublic

            If you’re referring to that half-priced shake deal, I can’t wait for that to end. Very much dislike how OKC dictates every store’s policies. It may be my capitol, but still…

          • ForTheRepublic

            As a recently-promoted assistant manager at my town’s Sonic, I resent that remark.

            😛

        • Duddioman

          Yes. When the price of homes skyrockets, people buy less homes.

        • Ronald Green

          Well actually they did stop buying houses and stopped paying on the loans many of them should have never gotten in the first place. Happened just a few years ago. you know, when this recession started. Or is that a figment of our collective imaginations? You know thing they call a housing bubble… when it burst.?

    • Keith

      Food stamps stimulate the economy too…you are just as stupid as pelosi. Typical lib moron that claims a dollar somehow “MULTIPLIES” into another dollar and so on and so on.

    • RedSoloCup

    • TocksNedlog

      EGAD, yer dumb!

    • TocksNedlog

      EGAD, yer dumb!

    • Duddioman

      You’re an idiot. Operational costs have just skyrocketed for small businesses, and they will lay off employees to keep the same level of overhead. Forced minimum wages hurt workers and businesses. You are to stupid to get that.

  • http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mo1wzFiu1qbubzqo1_400.gif Cleatus Van Damne ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    The war on the private sector continues. The increased expenses for business owners will inevitably result in lost jobs.

    • 0bamabacca

      Yes, but then their unemployment check will be bigger. Bigger unemployment checks are good for the economy.

      • http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mo1wzFiu1qbubzqo1_400.gif Cleatus Van Damne ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        LOL
        Aren’t 0bamanomics just precious?

    • Ken Alan Draper

      and in automated burger joints.

  • 0bamabacca

    They should require businesses to give people eight weeks vacation too and pay for their gas and lunch and maybe a can of pop and buy them a new pair of work shoes every six months.

  • Republicanvet

    Didn’t Piglosi say unemployment checks actually stimulated the economy? So she is trying to stimulate Kookifornia’s economy. Besides, and lay-offs will result in Republicans being blamed, particularly as more occur due to UrkelCare.

  • Jack Deth

    I foresee at least a dozen major franchises and medium sized businesses moving to Texas before Thanksgiving.

    • Ken Alan Draper

      I foresee automated kiosks at fast food restaurants in california in place of counter workers at major fast food joints.

      • Duddioman

        Brilliant! There are already cupcake ATMs in operation in Texas. Burger ATMs are coming to CA

        You, my friend are absolutely correct!

  • objectivefactsmatter

    What’s inflation?

    Never mind. Who cares?

  • TYPE O NEGATIVE

    Maybe if Cali didn’t tax everyone to hell, the working people could keep some of their paycheck

    • Liz

      Yea, wait until these minimum wagers realize that that increase in their minimum wage now takes away all of their welfare benefits and food stamps and with all that increased wealth they now have to pay a portion of their Obamacare. People conveniently forget there are always unintended consequences when you screw with business, big or small.

      • Frustrated Teacher

        Nah…the Dems will just raise those limits for them. Taking pool bets on how long until Kalifornica declares bankruptcy.

  • Ronald Green

    We need to secure the border to keep them liberal Kalifornians from entering any other State after their economy implodes. Wait can we start a move to expel those idiots from the Union? I mean do we really want an entire State that looks like Detroit? May have to allow N. California to secede from the rest of the state first tho’….

    • Liz

      You got it wrong Ronald. The eastern part of the state needs to secede and the western part needs to fall into the ocean after the next quake. The whole country would be much better off. I live here, I know. I hope to be out of this disaster next year.

      • Ronald Green

        You have my sympathy. But secession was tried 150 years ago and the result of that effort proved that secession is extremely difficult if another section of the country objects. That’s why I think expulsion should be tried. We can’t leave if we want to but maybe we can kick ’em out. And do get out before the border is closed. Good luck with your move.

      • Ronald Green

        You have my sympathy. But secession was tried 150 years ago and the result of that effort proved that secession is extremely difficult if another section of the country objects. That’s why I think expulsion should be tried. We can’t leave if we want to but maybe we can kick ’em out. And do get out before the border is closed. Good luck with your move.

  • Shawn Smith

    And per our fair and objective media, in a few months, unemployment in California will see an “unexpected” rise.

  • https://twitter.com/UnicornOfMayhem Hi This Is My Username

    California is such a mess and I’m glad I don’t live there. I’m sure the state has some good points, but the Liberal policies in control destroy the state.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmSIOoy6MlE&app=desktop Booker

    WOW! $10!
    California is in trouble! This will drive the State into the ground.

  • JD Son

    Way to encourage businesses to leave, and encouraging low-lifes to enter your state and become future parasites! You morons in California must be so proud. I know there are pockets of conservatives in California, but they are outnumbered by morons. A sad day in American history.

    • Liz

      Yes, there are a few of us left that are still trying to escape.

  • Ted H.

    So….raising the minimum wage will create jobs?
    But earlier you told me that unemployment creates jobs too.

    HEY! We can test this MC Escher logic by cranking up that minimum wage, and just you WATCH all the unemployed surface. Boom times, here we come!!!

    Oh you wacky libtards

  • EyesWideOpen

    Let us know how it works out for ya when the cost of a Big Mac hits $12.

    • Ken Alan Draper

      nah, you’ll just be buying your big mac out of a vending machine if you happen to be in califonia.

      • bluewaternavy

        Either that or the burgers will be assembled by robots…

  • Ken Alan Draper

    so California raised their minimum wage from $8/hour to $10/hour, which means they’ve just increased the cost of living in the state $2/hour which does the minimum wagers no good & hurts everyone else who actually applied themselves & moved beyond entry level work. that’s just peachy.

    • Onyx

      If businesses actually set their prices according to the purchasing power of minimum-wage workers, wouldn’t the minimum wage be a living wage? What possible economic model says that if you raise the wages of 10% of workers by $2/hour, then everything goes up in price so as to exactly cancel those wage gains?

  • Paul C.

    Sure, Nancy drive out more businesses. Why don’t you just build a super highway to TEXAS.

  • cscape

    If Nancy were “intellectually honest” she would insist upon all who are elected to Congress going onto “minimum wage” (including their bloated staffs)

  • RedSoloCup

    When will she finally expire already? She’s gotta be pushing 170 years old by now.

    • Kenneth G Maiden

      The W itch will never die. Brain dead Zombie.

  • Peyton

    Why should Congress follow their example? Let each state control their minimum wage.

  • stuckinIL4now

    And how soon will the minimum wage workers be out protesting that $10/hr isn’t a living wage either?

  • screen_name_already_taken

    One starts with no experience at minimum wage..students part time..Most will pay more as one proves they will remain and are dependable good work record thus advance higher. For if one is stuck at minimum wage “for eternity” then perhaps an education should be the mindset. Ya think?? Minimum also does not include tips etc which other workers have. However Ms. Pelosi businesses are cutting hours for ObamaCare – -everyone knows it and has seen it effect someone they know..so that little boost in wage, you speak o,f will not cover the hours lost with no hopes of overtime .. and in worst case scenarios will lose their jobs and be replaced with part timers the next day..Pelosi you can fool the ppl part of the time but if you fool them all the time then they deserve what they get…[violins for the fools] PS The union workers thank you makes their raise in hourly wage that much higher–after all they did contribute heavily to your campaign 😉

  • The Jackal

    Since when is a minimum wage job permanent.I thought they were mostly for high school kids, not to raise a family on.

  • The Jackal

    Since when is a minimum wage job permanent.I thought they were mostly for high school kids, not to raise a family on.

  • GirlRaisedInTheSouth

    And Rick Perry just keeps smiling…

  • Kenneth G Maiden

    IDIOT HACK. Kalifornia is an effing joke. The proof; look what we put into office.

  • gman213

    They must have been passing the bong too.

    • Arkuy The Great

      Well, the Bay Area isn’t known as “Bonghitia” for nothing…

    • Arkuy The Great

      Well, the Bay Area isn’t known as “Bonghitia” for nothing…

  • bungopony

    It’s soooo easy to be a saint when all you have to do is grab someone else’s wallet,innit Nancy?

  • j95lee

    The min wage will go up to 9 dollars first, then eventually reach 10 dollars in 2 years. Or that’s how I understand it.

  • Arkuy The Great

    Of course, this has nothing to do with the McAutomat v2.1 being rolled out on a trial basis in a few McD’s, BK and Wendy’s shops in the Palo Alto area over the next couple of months/years…

  • Arkuy The Great

    Of course, this has nothing to do with the McAutomat v2.1 being rolled out on a trial basis in a few McD’s, BK and Wendy’s shops in the Palo Alto area over the next couple of months/years…

  • SPQR9

    During Bush admin, in my state, fast food was offering $10/hr to fill jobs but had “hiring” signs all the time because economy was so good better jobs easy to find.

  • michael

    i can see it now…crossing the border to Arizona for a MigMac. where it’s affordable.

  • NewWest 123

    Keep it up and there will be no employers left!! Nancy and her husband might hire some people at their tuna factory in Somoa!!!

  • NewWest 123

    The presidents or should I say dictators plan is all falling into place…. Have ALL of his “Subjects” on the government dole and he will watch over us in his palace!!! Better get moving to fix this FAST!!!!

  • michael

    It if now costs as much to go to a Good place, as it does to a fast food place…… who loses business? who needs less employes? who just cut hours?

  • rockerdon

    Someone’s gotta say it. Nancy Pelosi is an F-in idiot. I cannot believe the dreadful representation we have here in the once Golden State. : /