For months, liberals have insisted they don’t want to ban guns or take away anyone’s firearms; they just want to have a “conversation” on guns and gun violence. “Pass this gun control law” has been the bulk of the Democrats’ side of the conversation, with the “proper” Republican response being, “Of course.”

Rep. Jim Moran tried to have a one-sided conversation last night but was thwarted by women who insisted on standing up for their Second Amendment rights. Tonight, Democratic strategist Mo Elleithee tried to keep the “conversation” going on “Hannity,” but it turns out he didn’t have much to say. Townhall’s Katie Pavlich, on the other hand, had plenty on her mind.

So, who still thinks Elleithee has anything to say to Pavlich about defending herself?

  • Richard

    Katie did a great job. Keep up all the good you do for conservatisim!

  • Spatial Awareness

    Woman Beaters of a feather flock together. MT “@KatiePavlich ==>@Jim_Moran doesn’t want women to be able to defend themselves against violent attackers….like his son.”

    • Calcat36

      If Moran Jr’s girlfriend had a gun, that f’n scumbag would be dead right now. So, is this a case of “like father, like son?”

  • almarquardt

    How many times did that guy say how all they wanted was a “conversation about guns?”

    Conversations don’t prevent crime or enable us to protect ourselves. I, for one, don’t want more talk. I want those people to shut up and stay out of my life and the lives of my family, community, et al.

    • Jack Deth

      It’s the Democrats’ new “Charm Offensive”, Andra.

      Though every time they want to “have” this “conversation”. The panel is solidly Anti-Gun and those who enjoy the Second Amendment are NOT allowed to speak. Or are completely ignored.

      • almarquardt

        Yeah, they charmed me right into my gun vault to make sure all my firearms are in working order.

        • WisconsinPatriot

          Awww, thats nice. I always walk out with one to clean……I just can’t resist.

          • almarquardt

            A lot of firearms are true works of art, aren’t they? Plus their design is absolutely brilliant; for the most part simple and their overall mechanics haven’t changed in over a hundred years because it’s so perfect.

            My mom loved firearms and took them out every six months to clean. Most people’s memories of Mom as far as smells go is bread, cookies or perfume (to use a few examples). What takes me back to my childhood is the smell of Hoppes #9.

        • Just Another Guy

          Took mine out and cleaned them. Then we were on a boat with them and drat…they all fell overboard when a wave tossed our boat

          • Squirrel!

            Better report that or jail time for you according to the bill Sen. Shumer has introduced! 😉

    • NRPax

      You see, Andra, that’s part of the problem. You want to be left alone and that’s just not acceptable. You could potentially make the wrong choices in your life and there’s no way you can be responsible enough to handle this.

      Back in a bit. Going to get the liberal thought patterns out of my head.

      • almarquardt

        I hope you survived the exorcism! Me, I tried the liberal-think once and it almost broke my brain.

        • NRPax

          Thanks. The scent of Lysol takes a while to get out of your sinuses but I’m good otherwise.

          • E Quilibrate

            Right, but bleach makes your eyes water.

        • alanstorm

          Takes work to think that poorly, doesn’t it?

  • Matthew Koch

    Please show more images and videos of Katie Pavlich. One look at her is enough to lift any young man’s spirits.

  • Meech204

    I’m sure his relatives are not happy to be related to him. My brother & husband would tell me “buy a gun” & learn to shoot it in order to protect myself.

    • Patrick Dennehy

      A good man protects the women in his life and makes sure they have the tools necessary to protect themselves in his stead.

      • Hiraghm

        That’s seeeeexist. /sarc

    • almarquardt

      Years ago I took a summer job working for the Forest Service. The only firearm I owned at the time was a .22 revolver. I took it with me since I was staying by myself in a camper provided by the Forest Service at camp ground.

      One weekend we went to visit my parents and I told her more about my job.

      She frowned and said, “Do you have a firearm with you?”

      “Yes,” I said, “My .22.”

      She glared at my husband and said, “You let my daughter carry a .22. My daughter. A .22.”

      My husband not knowing my mom well at this point said a meek, “Yes, ma’am.” At the time going to school for gunsmithing, he told me later his first thought was, “Oh, great, I married a woman who’s mother is anti-gun.”

      She jumped out of her chair and said, “That’s not big enough!” She returned a few minutes later and handed me a S&W “Lady Smith” snub-nosed .38. “There. That’s what you use for self-protection.” The woman loved her revolvers.

      She was also a big proponent of firearms for protection. She taught both my sister and me how to shoot starting when we were six years old. When my own son gets older, we’ll be teaching him the importance of firearms both for self-protection, and protecting our freedoms.

      Sorry for the long comment, but your comment reminded me of that.

      • Canadian in USA

        Sounds like you’ve got a cool mom. :)

        • almarquardt

          I thought so until turned 13. Then, for some reason, when I entered my 20s, she turned all cool again. Odd.

  • Kingofthehill

    I watch Hannity because he’s the only one on the news that knows anything about firearms, and Katie is drop dead gorgeous! On top of that she’s sharp as a tack and is pro gun. She is my dream girl.

    • Calcat36

      Katie is a babe… Being on the right makes her even more gorgeous than she is!

  • michael s

    Pavlich purposely goes after black men. I never see her go at piers morgan,mark kelly mayor bloomberg,etc. Of course i could be wrong but .

    • mike_in_kosovo

      Of course I could be wrong but…

      Like usual, you are.

      • Raye09

        The guy should have come more well prepared for a “conversation”, he was too scared to answer any of the questions because he had no answers. Crying “racist” just because you think it’s unfair he made himself look like a fool is just idiotic.

    • Kingofthehill

      oh get off it. You are kidding right? This guy was a fool and color didn’t matter. He walked into every one of those punches and he deserved it by association and his whole feelings on banning what our constitution allows us to own and use.

      On top of that, if your ridiculous attack were true, why was she going after Moran and his son the wife beater? Are they just a really really light shade of black?

      unreal… Typical idiot from the left… Lose the battle, pull the race card.

    • Zanshi

      You’re a racist. Tell me what the man’s skin color had to do with the conversation. The guy you agree with got whooped in the debate. Cry somewhere else, racist.

    • Jack Deth
    • NRPax

      Knock, knock!

      Who’s there?


      • almarquardt

        That’s the best knock-knock joke ever!

    • $1014973

      No buts, you’re wrong.

      • Calcat36

        And WRONG is COLOR BLIND!

    • WisconsinPatriot

      …..gee, I bet she would assert just as strongly with a black woman, asian man/woman, hispanic man/woman, etc…..etc……etc. See, when facts are on your side, everyone is the same. Not sure why she would wast time on piers morgan’s show……nobody is watching..

    • TexSizzle

      Your race card has been rejected because it is over the limit. Please provide an alternative form of payment.

    • Calcat36

      THERE IT IS!!!! THE LIBERAL RACE CARD! You bastiges enslaved the blacks and fought for YEARS to keep them slaves. Learn history, fool. Start with the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854. Even wiki gets it right. Why don’t you leftists send out white women to debate her?

      October 13, 1858
      During Lincoln-Douglas debates, U.S. Senator Stephen Douglas (D-IL) states: “I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever”; Douglas became Democrat Party’s 1860 presidential nominee!

      April 16, 1862
      President Lincoln signs bill abolishing slavery in District of Columbia; in Congress, 99% of Republicans vote yes, 83% of Democrats vote no!

      July 17, 1862
      Over unanimous Democrat opposition, Republican Congress passes Confiscation Act stating that slaves of the Confederacy “shall be forever free!”

      January 31, 1865
      13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. House with unanimous Republican support, intense Democrat opposition!

      April 8, 1865
      13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support, 63% Democrat opposition!

      November 22, 1865
      Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “black codes,” which institutionalized racial discrimination!

  • Ben Bollman

    I’m glad there wasn’t a drinking game for how many times he said “conversation” or I would be dead of alcohol poisoning right now.

    • Hiraghm

      Obviously we need to ban those greater-than-16-ounce assault vodka bottles…

  • ratizbad

    Is was like Katie put a gun in that idiots mouth,And he was to scared to utter a word of the truth.Liberals are making fools out of themselves and it seems it don’t bother them one bit .Common sense avoided Liberals at a very young age..

  • blueniner

    Katie Pavilich does her homework, Liberals better be prepared when they come to a fight with Katie, their nads will be sore after the fight!

  • onegoodnathan

    I’m for Katie’s work in support of the 2a but this passes as a ‘smack down’? bringing up Moran’s son was actually kinda a red herring fallacy. twitchy is really trying to hype up this Katie Pavlich. Fox clearly staging her against some real sorry sacks.

    • Patrick Dennehy

      The Moran’s son thing was kinda a low blow. You aren’t responsible for other peoples actions, but it is pretty ironic and not completely unreasonable, if you are trying to discredit he and his progeny for not protecting women…

      Mo Elleithee is not a sorry sack, he has been a top dem strat for a long time. He did look foolish here because it’s not a winnable argument. Pav had a stronger case and there was not much he could rebuke (besides the son remark). Here is his bio if you care to read it. I do think they are trying to hype her, as well they should, she’s only 24; she is pretty sharp; I think she’s totally hot :)

      • onegoodnathan

        thnks for info, I dont watch much tv, was judging Mo based on this clip. looks like I got hit by the downthumb zombies tho, independent critical thought is about as welcomed here as the huffpost, haha.

        • DavidKramer

          Down arrows are a sign that no one agrees with you. We are not calling for you to be thrown to the wolves…………yet.

        • Patrick Dennehy

          I find you get very few DV’s for independent thought here, there are plenty of independent thinkers on Twitchy. If you make a compelling/informed case, they will share their different view respectfully. Not condemnation of your post, it’s just if you had worded it slightly differently, it wouldn’t have garnered that response. I find if I make a statement I am unsure of; I qualify it with my ignorance, walk on egg shells, then ask it in the form of a question :)

          But like anywhere, there are some people that are unreasonable. They will DV you for even the most benign reasonable statement, if it goes against there ardent/unwavering/overzealous doctrine. Those ppl are few and far between.

          The large majority of people here are are pretty chill, if you come with facts, logic, and reason :)

          • Calcat36


    • Hiraghm

      Yeah, I am getting tired of hearing about “violence against women”. “Violence against women” is a byproduct of our brave, new, post-feminist society, and is indeed irrelevant to a discussion of people’s rights to keep and bear.

      After all, the 2nd Amendment is NOT about self-defense, any more than it’s about hunting. It’s about defense against an oppressive federal government.

      • almarquardt

        Agreed! Although one could argue protection against tyranny is self-protection.

    • Calcat36

      Yes, it was a smack down of an unprepared liberal gun grabber who had no answer as to how women should defend themselves! Twitchy is NOT trying to hype Katie, which is your leftist way of saying that your liberal gun grabber failed to put Katie in her place! Then you accuse and attack FOX News of “staging” her against an idiot for ratings. Well guess which idiot accepted the appearance offer to defend your side! As if MSDNC does not EDIT tape to make people look like racists! She actually gave the punk a “garden variety slap” in the most gentle of ways possible without actually throttling the dude and making him cry or piss his pants. Bringing Moran’s son up was NOT a Red Herring, because leftists would have pointed to that behavior and repeated it over and over if it were a republican. Remember liberal, y’all still be blamin’ Boosh fo da economy! AND if the woman Moran’s kid assaulted had a gun, Moran’s son would be 6 feet under. The POINT WAS abuse of unarmed women by abusive men, AND that people like Moran are not PRO-CHOICE when it comes to women defending themselves. Therefore, they are HYPOCRITES! Liberals support killing the defenseless in the womb, but if a woman defends herself and kills a thug rapist…. Well that’s just WRONG. Back Asswards, man.

      In short, take your drivel somewhere else liberal. Stop trying to play the victim card here and take the DV’s you earned! Or, go piss yourself. I hear that is a great defense.

      • onegoodnathan

        it actually is a red herring bc she implies Moran’s support of gun control is invalid bc of an assault conviction of a family member. It’s not an argument directly against his position and it’s diversionary. But you then seem to defend the fallacy with a moral equivalence fallacy, it’s logical bc leftists would do it? haha srsly? Also the fact that twitchy was giving coverage of a tongue in cheek statement made by Katie running against McCain, next decade mind you haha, would qualify as hyping IMO. thr fight is now, who even knows if there will be elections to be had in 10 years–it was a waste of time and energy.

        realize it is possible to object to your neo-conservatism without having to be a liberal. how exactly do you come to the conclusion that I blame Bush for the economy? certainly his Keynesian interventionist policy helped contribute to this point in time, but so has every keynesian policy driven President since FDR.

        I’m guessing you’re one of those people who think there’s a difference between the Bush and Obama admin, they’re the same big govt statist controlled by the power elite, dude.

        get out of the R vs D paradigm, citizens vs the state is the battle. I chose to quit being manipulated by the establishment mouthpieces like Malkin, and all the corporate shills at fox news.

  • Hiraghm

    Pavlich did well, except she missed the simple fact that concealed carry laws are unConstitutional.

    • almarquardt

      Huh? Please explain.

      EDIT: Never mind. See below.

      • Zane Henry

        well, one thought on the matter is that a permit, of any kind, turns a right into a privilege subject to the whim of the government. “…right to bear arms….shall not be infringed..”

        I tend to agree. It’s not like the criminals get permits. Why should we have to?

        • almarquardt

          I thought about Jim’s comment and agree also. I feel the NICS (instant check) is equally unconstitutional, because it’s effectively asking the government for permission to purchase a firearm. The whole point of the 2nd Amendment is we don’t need permission.

  • DANEgerus

    Gun Control Laws were originally about Democrats disarming their ex-slaves, now they are about Democrats disarming women…

    • DavidKramer

      ………..and their future slaves.

  • DANEgerus

    When a LibRule Lies: “a conversation about guns” it is DoubleSpeak like “choice” in that there is no choice and no guns will be tolerated.

  • Waynester

    Not only did he not know what Hannity was talking about he didn’t know what he himself was talking about!

  • $45604981

    I have to comment on the 3 shot issue with shotguns. The fat bastard Ed Schultz did a talk on this last year and it was completely wrong. The reason you are only allowed 3 shells when hunting for birds is because it was a deal done after the invention of the pump shotgun. The makers of single and double barrel guns went to the Feds and said the pump gun was going to drive them out of business and they needed protection. The Feds put in a 3 shell limit on birds to help protect them. There are daily bag limits so this law is no longer needed but we are stuck with it.

    • Calcat36

      Along with all of the gun laws on the books that liberals DO NOT enforce! They don’t care about the laws. They want to erase the second amendment by any means possible!

    • DavidKramer

      I just use to take the plug out of my shotgun. While bird hunting install and when hunting anything else the plug came out.

  • DavidKramer

    “I am glad we are having this conversation.”
    “How do you suggest someone defend themselves?”
    “I do not know, but I am glad we are having this discussion.”
    “What about………….I do not know but I am glad we are…………What about………..I do not know.”

    That about wraps up the gungrabbers argument, THEY DO NOT KNOW but they want to ban guns, that is the ONE THING THEY KNOW!

    • Calcat36

      He knows damn well… Pee, Vomit, Fake passing out or seizing, Carry a pen, Walk in groups, Make sure your cell phone is charged, Just say no, blah blah blah..

  • Jd1367

    He says “I am glad we’re having this conversation” about as convincingly as Kevin Bacon says “all is well” at the end of Animal House

  • David Harrison

    Katie Pavlich is HOT!