Organizing for Action, the rebranded Obama campaign team, has tried before to link the 44th president and his policies to those of Ronald Reagan, without much success. Citing Reagan’s support of an assault weapons ban isn’t a stretch, but why disseminate a quote about machine guns? Even Buzzfeed’s Zeke Miller couldn’t let that go without comment.

For what it’s worth, it’s worth a lot. Even after his session at a Texas gun range, we’re still not sure Piers “Musket” Morgan knows what “semi-automatic” means — only that it sounds scary. And now with talk of “assault magazines” entering the national conversation on guns, it’s far past time to clarify the terms of the debate.

https://twitter.com/BecketAdams/status/299987722834169856

It’s also worth noting, as today’s rallies at state capitols reminded us, that sport shooting has nothing to do with the Second Amendment.

  • KansasGirl

    That dastardly second amendment is a thorn in the leftists side.

    • RightThinking1

      They regard the Bill of Rights in general as a time consuming bottleneck.

    • $21367552

      That dastardly “well regulated militia” is a thorn you gun nuts’ collective side.

      • http://www.facebook.com/noah.lee3 Noah Lee

        wow you really got us on that one.

      • Gary Rudick

        Um, that doesn’t mean what you think it does…regulated has two definitions one military; one legal. You do know that soldiers were called ‘regulars’ in revolutionary times, yeah I didn’t think so, dumbass.

      • SDN

        Not according to SCOTUS…. or US Code Sec 10.

      • http://www.facebook.com/corey.dennison Corey Dennison

        Hi diakanon…you should really take the time to read us.
        –signed
        U.S. vs Miller
        D.C. vs Heller

      • robcrawford2

        What part of “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” don’t you understand?

      • hoosier1234

        Those dastardly “rights of the people” words in the second phrase is a thorn in the side of you paranoid, gun-fearing destroyers of the second Amendment, too.

      • S H

        Do you know what regulated means? Keep in mind this is before the progressive era where the modern usage was created….

      • http://Paterzplace.blogspot.com/ DonM

        diakonon, check title 10 section 311, whereby all males between 17 and 45 are members of the unorganized militia. Of course it should be amended to make women not in the national guard members of the unorganized militia, but militia membership is very very broad.

      • http://Paterzplace.blogspot.com/ DonM

        diakonon, check title 10 section 311, whereby all males between 17 and 45 are members of the unorganized militia. Of course it should be amended to make women not in the national guard members of the unorganized militia, but militia membership is very very broad.

      • KansasGirl

        You left out “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”.
        Don’t ya hate when that happens?

    • Ronin

      That dang reality getting in the way of their dreams!

  • waltermitty2012

    Tell Obama that a Continuing Resolution is not a budget.

  • Steve_J

    No such thing as a semi automatic assault weapon.

  • Maxx

    Liberals seem to wrap themselves in knots trying to associate the Second Amendment as some policy to control the deer population.

  • tredglx

    “machine guns are fully automatic weapons and are distinct from semi-automatic assault weapons”
    Did he actually realize he was making a distinction? And what is a semi-auto assault weapon?
    Ooooh, that rifle that fires one round at a time just looks so scary! It must be an (ominous music goes here) ASSAULT WEAPON!

    Good Lord, liberals – that allege to be so educated – are incredibly stupid.

    • DwellsInFire

      MSNBC’s Liberal Lawrence O’Donnell apparently doesn’t think ASSAULT WEAPONS sounds evil enough. He’s now calling them MASSACRE WEAPONS. It just doesn’t end with those people.

      • Hiraghm

        I’m still trying to figure out why it’s morally worse to kill 26 people than to kill one. Since when is human life additive?

        • AD_Rtr_OS

          “One death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic!”

      • http://www.facebook.com/noah.lee3 Noah Lee

        o’donnell massacres my eyeballs whenever i’m forced to watch him which thank goodness, is rarely.

      • robcrawford2

        During the afternoon of August 2nd, 216BC, between 50,000 and 75,000 Roman and allied soldiers were killed by muscle-powered weapons on the fields beneath the town of Cannae. So many Senators were killed there weren’t enough left for a quorum, and emergency elections had to be held before they could begin rebuilding the TWO armies they lost that day.

        In early May, 88BC, approximately 80,000 Roman men, women, and children across Asia Minor were slaughtered in a terror campaign apparently organized by King Mithradates of Pontus.

        People don’t need firearms to commit massacres.

        • michael s

          A student of the Punic wars and the Mithridatic wars.

  • Jack Deth

    To quote Ben Shapiro when Piers Morgan recently tried to beat him over the head with the same document and quote:

    “So?”.

  • V the K

    Appealing to authority is one of the left’s favorite logical fallacies. They assume since they thoughtlessly parrot what their leaders tell them, we on the right will do the same. Independent, critical thought is alien to them.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sanddog Ms Anonymous

    So.. machine guns aren’t sporting weapons and carrots are good for you.

    WTF does either statement have to do with the leftist push for bans on semi-automatic firearms?

  • Kingofthehill

    Come on people… If you have a brain, please stop letting the gun grabbers dictate the verbiage of this debate. There is no such thing as “Assault Weapons”, it was a term coined by the anti gunners in the mid 90’s, and we joke about the “Assault Magazines” but if we are saying too, even as a joke people will start really calling them that. Its almost as bad as “High Capacity” magazines like when they talk about the 30rd Ar-15 mag’s… they are “Standard Capacity”… I don’t care about the “Clip” Vs “Magazine” thing but adopting their verbiage is helping them win.

    • Slapweasel

      I agree with you whole-heartedly. “The Free-Market” has been bastardized by “Capitalism”. A free market with equal opportunity seems much further-off when the barrier of margin-delaying, capital-prohibitive grovelling is built into the equation.

      …actually? I don’t think 80% of today’s kids could tell you the difference between ‘capital’ and ‘capitol’.

      …forget it. Let’s get back to stopping the “Assault Weapon” misnomer.

      • GaryTheBrave

        If the kids cannot tell the difference between capital and Capitol then take them to the principle, I mean the principal.

      • S H

        The term has a history btw. It was a nazi propaganda term. The assault weapon was the weapon carried by the “storm trooper” (another propaganda term.. for light infantry). Its just another translation of storm. So; storm trooper weapon is another way of saying it… eventually it crept into some military writing as a term for a select fire weapon… something already illegal in the US… anyway; the left is keeping the term alive.. and as a propaganda term to boot…

        • AD_Rtr_OS

          The proper translation is “assault rifle” – and that is the legal definition of the M-16/M-4 issued weapon.

          • S H

            Your right about the rifle part (Sturmgewehr). But I don’t agree with the rest. The legal definition was created after the fact in the US. The history (and creation) of the term I mentioned it is still correct. Also; there is the standard ‘so what’ about legal terms. re: If someone did not commit a murder according to the legal term it is not to say it was not still a murder (in point of fact, morally, et all).

          • S H

            PS Sturmgewehr. It can be translated as storm or assault.. as I said.

          • S H

            PS Sturmgewehr. It can be translated as storm or assault.. as I said.

          • S H

            Your right about the rifle part (Sturmgewehr). But I don’t agree with the rest. The legal definition was created after the fact in the US. The history (and creation) of the term I mentioned it is still correct. Also; there is the standard ‘so what’ about legal terms. re: If someone did not commit a murder according to the legal term it is not to say it was not still a murder (in point of fact, morally, et all).

          • Kingofthehill

            The M-16 by the creator Eugine Stoner never held the name “Assault Rifle”. Also the AR-15’s everyone is freaking out about, just so everyone knows the AR does not stand for “Assault Rifle” like the media thinks… the AR stands for “Armalite Rifle”

          • Kingofthehill

            The M-16 by the creator Eugine Stoner never held the name “Assault Rifle”. Also the AR-15’s everyone is freaking out about, just so everyone knows the AR does not stand for “Assault Rifle” like the media thinks… the AR stands for “Armalite Rifle”

        • Kingofthehill

          I know about the sturmgewehr, I had one up until a few years ago. Its a very interesting history if anyone wants to look it up. Hitler didn’t like it and refused it but they were given to some troops and they loved it. hitler made a appearance in the field and asked what they needed to win the war and one of them showed him the sturmgewehr (Storm Rifle) and hitler was pissed but in a way to save face he then renamed it and had them made. Awesome rifle.

        • Kingofthehill

          I know about the sturmgewehr, I had one up until a few years ago. Its a very interesting history if anyone wants to look it up. Hitler didn’t like it and refused it but they were given to some troops and they loved it. hitler made a appearance in the field and asked what they needed to win the war and one of them showed him the sturmgewehr (Storm Rifle) and hitler was pissed but in a way to save face he then renamed it and had them made. Awesome rifle.

    • hoosier1234

      You are absolutely correct. Any gun can be an assault weapon, but so, too, can be screwdrivers, hammers, lead pipes, bowling pins, rolling pins, etc., etc.

      • Kingofthehill

        Heck, spit on a cop… you will be arrested for Assault. Its an action, not a type of gun

        • hoosier1234

          And it’s a person (usually deranged and hell-bent on revenge) who does the killing.

  • Slapweasel

    Step #1. Take something out of context. (Like the Constitution of These Great United States of America, The Declaration of Independence, the Bible, the Koran, Thomas Jefferson, etc.)
    Step #2. Deny that they took it out of context by quoting something else out of context.
    Step #3. Employ Saul Alinsky tactics and attack the messenger(s).
    Step #4. Employ pop-culture tactics for the sake of pure ‘catchy ridicule’.
    Step #5. Make asinine bumper-sticker.
    Step #6. Profit in the remains of the Free-Market System.

    • Catchance

      That’s awesome… thanks, and I’m going to borrow it.

  • Hiraghm

    If machine guns were “banned” in 1986… what the hell are we arming our soldiers with? We have an army/navy/marine corps deployed with semi-auto firearms?
    /sarc

    If Gomer can carry it, I can carry it. – 2nd Amendment in a nutshell

    • http://www.facebook.com/noah.lee3 Noah Lee

      not nice to call him gomer. it’s mr. president.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000835594170 Alex Omega

    This man is a HERO! The police Dept. screwed him over. They should pay for the dirt they regularly do. Especially when it’s at the citizens expense. This should be a lesson to cops. I love seeing them in fear. Too bad for the engaged couple. It’s sad, but he couldn’t get the father. So he got the next best thing. This is what happens when the system fails a person, as it so often does. To all the white folks who say negative things about him, you’ve never experienced racism, excessive force against you, or unfair treatment at the hands of a cop. He’s only doing what many citizens would do if possible (maybe not killing family members).

    • Evil Otto

      All done trolling there?

    • Joe W.

      Wrong thread, Kunta……..

    • http://www.facebook.com/corey.dennison Corey Dennison

      Dumb-ass.

  • roger

    Assault weapons is a lie. There r full auto weapons which are already illegal exc. by permit frm ATF. Semi-auto firearms are rifles w/accoutrements which make them appear similar to full auto, exc. they are not the same. Get ‘assault weapons’ out of the public vernacular. It means Nothing and is a lie.

  • J.N. Ashby

    But we should have machine guns though.

    • http://Paterzplace.blogspot.com/ DonM

      Yes, the letters of marque and reprisal clause reveals that the framers envisioned ships with cannon that were privately owned- ships required a crew, so that shows that the framers expected privately owned crew served weapons.

      • J.N. Ashby

        Sure. Whatever we can get our hands on. We’d barely need a standing army.

  • rennyangel2

    Machines guns and fully automatic weapons have been banned since the Mafioso wars of the 1930s.

    • http://Paterzplace.blogspot.com/ DonM

      With a few exceptions. 1934 required registration. 1986 made it illegal to add to the number of full auto weapons, with existing ones ‘grandfathered’ in.

      • rennyangel2

        Thanks.

    • J.N. Ashby

      Feel safer, Chicago?

  • Conrad2010

    AssaultMagazine: Every month of Cosmo promoting whorish sex tips on the eye level of little girls in the grocery checkout line.”
    “‎’Assault magazine’
    When a crappy periodical blasts you with more than ten subscription cards.”

  • BeeKaaay

    Yes, let’s ban assault weapnos!

    The leftwingwacko media assaults us with leftwingwacko propaganda routinely. It is an assault weapon.

    Pubic schools (misspelling intentional) make sure that pedophiles are able to hurt children. They are assault weapons against children.

    Oh wait, assault weapons are good all of a sudden! :)

    /sarc

  • SamWah

    “It’s also worth noting, as today’s rallies at state capitols reminded us, that sport shooting has nothing to do with the Second Amendment.” Without the 2nd Amendment, our sporting firearms would likely be prohibited. That’s what the gun-control people want.

  • Lawman45

    If the thought of a pistol grip makes you soil your pants (cotton or nylon), you really have a personal problem, don’t you?

  • theBuckWheat

    Ronald Reagan’s Colt AR-15

    In June 1992, retired President Ronald Reagan was presented with some gifts
    from the American Shooting Sports Council, a trade association for the firearms industry. (ASSC later merged with the National Shooting Sports Foundation, an older industry group.) The gifts were a Colt semi-automatic AR-15 rifle, a gold-engraved Colt Single Action Army .45 revolver, and a beautiful custom holster from Galco. He loved the gifts, and had a great time with them at his Rancho del Cielo. As he explained, many of the guns which he had been given as President were in the Reagan Museum, and he was not allowed to use them. So he was grateful to have some new guns of his own. You can read the whole story here, with lots of photographs, in this PDF from the August 1992 issue of The Alliance Voice, the magazine of the ASSC: Ronald Reagan’s AR-15.

    http://www.volokh.com/2013/01/15/ronald-reagans-ar-15/

    see pix:

    http://www.volokh.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Reagan-AR-15-ASSC-August-19921.pdf

  • AD_Rtr_OS

    We don’t have semi-automatic weapons, we have self-loading guns- all you have to do is aim, and pull the trigger; the gun does all the rest..

    CA is set to ban Assault Bullets (don’t ask).

    • Laka

      Wouldn’t you know it? It’s those high-capacity bullets they really need to ban.

  • gt_charlie

    An assault rifle is a select fire rifle, meaning that it can fire in both full auto and semi auto modes. The M-14, M-16 and M4 are assault rifles. There is no such thing as a semi-automatic assault rifle.

    Morons.

  • Laka

    Hey lefties, remember how good you’re supposed to be at nuance? How many times do semi-auto and full-auto need to be explained to you?

  • michael s

    its good to know that some of you know the difference between a semi automatic firearm and a fully automatic firearm.