News is breaking late Saturday that House Speaker John Boehner has offered a fiscal cliff deal that would involve tax hikes on those earning more than $1 million, rather than the $250,000 ceiling demanded by President Obama.

There are only reports from “a source close to the negotiations” for now, but that’s enough for many to express their feelings.

https://twitter.com/RightWingB/status/280145080046743552

https://twitter.com/AmGovDotCom/status/280144620787216386

According to Reuters, Boehner made the offer in exchange for major cuts in entitlements, but the president did not accept.

  • Jerry Winsby

    I love the no compromise position…how can we get anything done without give and take?

    • Finrod Felagund

      How much compromising has Obama done, again? He wants to both raise taxes and raise spending, as if he hasn’t spent us into financial oblivion already.

    • Finrod Felagund

      How much compromising has Obama done, again? He wants to both raise taxes and raise spending, as if he hasn’t spent us into financial oblivion already.

  • Lexikin

    As much as I want to scream at Boehner, for some reason I believe he did this to prove Obama’s greed. He is so hell bent on taking down anyone with success, he will stop at nothing. This just proves Obama is even more of an asshat

    • ClarkFL

      Agreed. If that greedy bastard Obama can’t even accept that, then we all know that he just wants to destroy the job creators. Just a tax and spend Democrat. We gotta gear up for 2014 and oust the Dems in the Senate that we can plus Boehner too.

  • Bigeddie173

    Was there any doubt? Time to fire him. Democrat lite….

  • syvyn11

    Great, give Obama everything he wants.

    They pass the tax (which no republican was voted in to raise taxes), and it fails. Obama wins, he blames republicans for the failure.

    Way to go Crying John.

  • Jack Deth

    Say goodbye to the last bit of leverage the Republicans had with Obama.

    Boehner should have just told the Republicans on the Hill to go home to campaign and fact find until after the Inauguration. Then vote “Present!” and let Obama own this fiasco!

    • conservativechick

      I hate to say it, but as a Conservative, I think Boehner did the right thing here. He defines millionaires as those making OVER a million a year. Obama defines millionaires as anyone making $250,000. a year. I also would love to see Boehner INSIST Obama show us where he would CUT SPENDING in writing! He should be a better negotiator and communicator. GET OUR message out there, too. CUTS PLEASE? Tax hikes are inevitable now so if Obama turns down THIS offer, it will now be HIS fault. BO so wants us to go over that cliff so he can get everything he wants, including big time defense cuts!

  • Lord Foggybottom

    A step in the right direction, but not good enough. Give Obama everything he wants and let the system collapse without a single Republican fingerprint. We can start rebuilding after the next midterm elections.

    • Guest

      Giving Obama everything he wants would be about the smartest thing the republicans could do. Of course, that would be the exact opposite of the last four years which was simply to obstruct everything Obama wanted.

      • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

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        Contribution of the Communist Party USA

        14th International Meeting of CWP

        Presented by Erwin Marquit, Organizational Secretary
        Minnesota/Dakotas District, CPUSA; member of International Department CPUSA

        The Communist Party USA not only welcomes the reelection of President Barack Obama, but activelyengaged in the electoral campaign for his reelection and for the election of many Democratic Party congressional candidates….we seek to cooperate and strengthen our relationship with the more progressive elements in Democratic Party, such as the Progressive Caucus in the U.S. Congress….

        http://www.solidnet.org/usa-communist-party-usa/3139-14-imcwp-contribution-of-cpusa-en,

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        working class . . . to international solidarity; to popularize the ideas of
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        views.”

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      • Second Breakfast

        Your ignorance is astounding. The man had two years with both houses of congress. And then, he had *ONE* house of congress in Republican hands. Remind me again, how many Democrats voted for Obama’s budget? He could not even pass his budget in a democratically controlled Senate. Two weeks ago, McConnell told Obama fine, we’ll take your budget proposal, put it up for a vote. What did Reid say? Nope. ‘Cuz he knew it was a sham and an asshat of a plan for recovery Everything this man has done since he’s been in office has been destructive to our economy. The only hope for recovery is to actually stand in his way. Unfortunately one house of congress doesn’t have enough power to actually do that. So he’ll “start” down a path of further econonomic ass-hattery. You wrote below, that his plan is a start. It’s a start toward higher unemployment, higher debt, a reduced national credit rating, higher health insurance premiums, worse healthcare coverage, and in the end it will not even help the deficit to raise the taxes as he wants to because they have no plan to cut spending.

        • Guest

          Now there’s an effective argument! Kudos. At least you didn’t resort to name calling and slander like most of the folks on this site. I like that you relied primarily on facts to make your case. However, you went off course with unfounded conclusions that you need to back up with some proof.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Unfounded conclusions…like the Reps obstructing everything Obama wanted?

          • Guest

            Hyperbolic maybe, but grounded in fact.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            How about you do like you said above and back that up with some proof? A simple list of bills that the Reps blocked would be sufficient. Then, we can talk about all the bills that are languishing on Harry Reid’s desk.

          • Guest
          • mike_in_kosovo

            Proof from a Democrat website? LOL. That’s about like taking a Rachel Maddow monologue as ‘proof’. That comes up as a blocked site on my computer, btw.

            How about something from the Congressional Record, instead? You know, *actual* proof.

          • Guest

            Labelled: Bias.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            On the part of the Dem website? Probably. I like seeing the Congressional Record on things like that – it lets me see if the Republicans actually *did* filibuster a bill, or if cloture was called as an attempt to stifle debate.

      • Second Breakfast

        Your ignorance is astounding. The man had two years with both houses of congress. And then, he had *ONE* house of congress in Republican hands. Remind me again, how many Democrats voted for Obama’s budget? He could not even pass his budget in a democratically controlled Senate. Two weeks ago, McConnell told Obama fine, we’ll take your budget proposal, put it up for a vote. What did Reid say? Nope. ‘Cuz he knew it was a sham and an asshat of a plan for recovery Everything this man has done since he’s been in office has been destructive to our economy. The only hope for recovery is to actually stand in his way. Unfortunately one house of congress doesn’t have enough power to actually do that. So he’ll “start” down a path of further econonomic ass-hattery. You wrote below, that his plan is a start. It’s a start toward higher unemployment, higher debt, a reduced national credit rating, higher health insurance premiums, worse healthcare coverage, and in the end it will not even help the deficit to raise the taxes as he wants to because they have no plan to cut spending.

      • Lord Foggybottom

        It would, because Obama will *finally* be blamed for the economic collapse. The Republicans obstructed and the economy limped – and the Republicans got the blame. It’s time to once and for all make Obama own this economy.

        • Guest

          Is it more important that Obama be blamed, or that the economy gets back on track?

          If you follow world financial trends, you’ll know that nearly EVERY country on this planet is facing tough times economically. Is that all because of Obama?

          • Lord Foggybottom

            Yes, Obama needs to be blamed, THEN the economy will get back on track. You diagnose the ailment, then fix it. Currently, the media diagnoses the Republicans as the ailment, even though history shows time and time again that their policies work.

            If Obama were blamed, Romney would be our next president, and the economy would get back on track. Reagan’s plan created over 8 million jobs in 29 months, Obama’s ignorance continues to bleed jobs 4 years later. People need to understand that Keynesian economics doesn’t work.

            And the rest of the world is having a tough time because they follow the exact same idiotic socialistic ideals Obama does.

          • Guest

            Canada is much more social than the US and Canada is doing much better than the US. How do you explain that?

          • Lord Foggybottom

            They elected conservatives, who then shrank the size of their government and made it less restrictive.

            However, the main reason they’re doing better than the US is because we’re so much worse than we used to be. In 2001 we were the #2 freest economy in the world. We’re now #18 and falling fast. Canada has risen to #5.

            Suck on that.

          • Guest

            Suck on that. Very mature.

          • Lord Foggybottom

            Bite me, you elitist snob.

          • Guest

            Bite me? Very mature. You just keep humiliating yourself. It’s hard not to be elitist when your opponent is face down in the mud.

          • Lord Foggybottom

            You’re funny.

          • Guest

            Well at least you’re showing that you have a sense of humour. I imagine you are probably a really nice fellow in real life. If you just treated people with respect, you’d feel a lot better about yourself. Don’t fall to the same standards as those around you. Set an example mate.

          • Lord Foggybottom

            No, I mean you’re funny because you’re such an elitist dickhole. It’s really hard to take people like you seriously because you’re so fucking stupid.

            You’re just putting us on, right? This is all a gag, right?

          • Guest

            Did you mother teach you any manners at all? I hope you don’t have children. You’d be setting such a poor example. Don’t you realize that what goes online is forever? These words of hate you hurl so recklessly are indicators of your character.

          • Lord Foggybottom

            Recklessly? No, they weren’t hurled recklessly, they were completely intentional because, unlike you, I don’t play nice with those who try to oppress me.

            Take care, Sally.

          • Guest

            Thanks for participating Lord Foggybottom. Your comments have been the best so far. Cheers.

          • Guest

            Labelled: Highlight these ones.

          • Guest

            Ok. Ok. It’s not a gag, but it is part of some research I’m doing. Thanks for participating. Sorry to have stirred the pot, but it was necessary. Have a nice day, and guns bless you.

    • Lord Foggybottom

      Obama has now refused Boehner’s offer, which is why the Republicans HAVE to give Obama what he wants. If they don’t they will be blamed for the coming meltdown – just as they were for the past 4 years. We have to ensure Obama gets the blame, not the Republicans, otherwise the Republicans are finished.

  • waltermitty2012

    Raising taxes on the top earners raises $80 billion a year. This is the sum total of Obama’s plan to turn the economy around and like the rest of his economic plans it’s doomed to failure.

  • aZjimbo

    Boehner is a complete gutless rino. He must go.

  • HARP2

    Kinda like a slow rape ain`t it.

    • Joe W.

      Sick bass turd.

  • Charm4sure

    And the Republicans plan for exposing the dems and Obama’s lack of effort to solve the fiscal cliff problems is……… crickets, all I hear are crickets.

    • mike_in_kosovo

      The *best* thing for them to do is exactly that – crickets.

      The Dems have howled for a decade that the Bush tax cuts have cratered the economy, so give them what they want. Let ALL the Bush tax cuts expire and make the Dems take responsibility for the results.

  • http://twitter.com/RFKA Rafael Kafka

    He is dead lol RIP Boehner!

  • Grumpa Grumpus

    I just love how conservatives— after almost two decades of sustained effort and squandered resources including the squandered time and opportunity, we are further behind than IF we’d left the Republican Party when Grahamnesty and Juan first started to attack conservatives because we expressed desires only that they vote in accordance with the Constitution!

    Now, all the talking heads will say: “we’re stuck! We have to stay with the ‘R-Proggies’ because otherwise Emperor Dingleberry will have the run of it!”

    Well, where exactly would that difference be?

    When it is important to kill The Republic, Smeagol rushes up to lick the Emperor’s boots! So, excuse me if I urge that instead of playing gamesmanship I plead we do the right thing!
    Yeah. Levin will call me “a dummy”. And perhaps I am.

    But it has been the gamesmanship of the “smart people” that overruled common sense and kept us flailing a dead elephant, begging it to do the proper thing one more time.

  • Grumpa Grumpus

    I just love how conservatives— after almost two decades of sustained effort and squandered resources including the squandered time and opportunity, we are further behind than IF we’d left the Republican Party when Grahamnesty and Juan first started to attack conservatives because we expressed desires only that they vote in accordance with the Constitution!

    Now, all the talking heads will say: “we’re stuck! We have to stay with the ‘R-Proggies’ because otherwise Emperor Dingleberry will have the run of it!”

    Well, where exactly would that difference be?

    When it is important to kill The Republic, Smeagol rushes up to lick the Emperor’s boots! So, excuse me if I urge that instead of playing gamesmanship I plead we do the right thing!
    Yeah. Levin will call me “a dummy”. And perhaps I am.

    But it has been the gamesmanship of the “smart people” that overruled common sense and kept us flailing a dead elephant, begging it to do the proper thing one more time.

  • Grumpa Grumpus

    Sorry about the out-of-control underlining!

    I think my droid’s got a virus or something : the cursor’s jumping all over the edit box!

    I’ll log onto Disqus tomorrow morning and fix the post.

    I’d fix it tonight but the ms-contin is finally starting to relieve the pain, so I’m becoming very, very sleepy.

    Again, sorry about the underlining!

  • Grumpa Grumpus

    Sorry about the out-of-control underlining!

    I think my droid’s got a virus or something : the cursor’s jumping all over the edit box!

    I’ll log onto Disqus tomorrow morning and fix the post.

    I’d fix it tonight but the ms-contin is finally starting to relieve the pain, so I’m becoming very, very sleepy.

    Again, sorry about the underlining!

  • Jeffrey Wilson

    Well it is a start, if Obama takes us over the cliff, and I think he wants it. Some major programs, like Social Security, Medicaid, federal pay (including military pay and pensions), and veterans’ benefits, are exempted from the spending cuts. Spending for defense, federal agencies and cabinet departments would be reduced through broad, shallow cuts referred to as “budget sequestration”.

    A better scenario involves extending the Bush tax cuts, repealing the automatic spending cuts, restricting the reach of the AMT (Alt Min Tax) and keeping Medicare reimbursement rates at the current level.

    Also,the current debt-ceiling will also expire around the end of the year, unless there is a deal in place. This was part of Treasury Sec Geithner’s original proposal from the President, a blank check, so to speak.

    But a “no” to additional revenue via a tax increase on the job creators is foolish and wouldn’t sustain the government for more than a few weeks. But merely allowing him to take us over and “own it” hoping to reclaim a majority in the senate, sure did not work this November when he ran on the worst economy since WW1.

  • Jeffrey Wilson

    Well it is a start, if Obama takes us over the cliff, and I think he wants it. Some major programs, like Social Security, Medicaid, federal pay (including military pay and pensions), and veterans’ benefits, are exempted from the spending cuts. Spending for defense, federal agencies and cabinet departments would be reduced through broad, shallow cuts referred to as “budget sequestration”.

    A better scenario involves extending the Bush tax cuts, repealing the automatic spending cuts, restricting the reach of the AMT (Alt Min Tax) and keeping Medicare reimbursement rates at the current level.

    Also,the current debt-ceiling will also expire around the end of the year, unless there is a deal in place. This was part of Treasury Sec Geithner’s original proposal from the President, a blank check, so to speak.

    But a “no” to additional revenue via a tax increase on the job creators is foolish and wouldn’t sustain the government for more than a few weeks. But merely allowing him to take us over and “own it” hoping to reclaim a majority in the senate, sure did not work this November when he ran on the worst economy since WW1.

  • Finrod Felagund

    The UK tried a “millionaire’s” tax. The percent of all taxes paid by millionaires dropped from 9.0% to 4.5% and revenue fell substantially.

  • Finrod Felagund

    The UK tried a “millionaire’s” tax. The percent of all taxes paid by millionaires dropped from 9.0% to 4.5% and revenue fell substantially.

  • Joe W.

    Actually, this was a smart move by Speaker Boehner. With Barky flat out
    rejecting the effort at compromise, the left can no longer accuse the
    right of being “obstructionists”.. Clearly, Obummer has no interest in
    compromise and actually relishes the idea of going over the cliff. I
    say, “let it burn”, and let the libs own the continued depression…all
    on their own.

  • redheadgrl

    Tom Price for House Speaker!