As the fiscal cliff looms ever closer on the horizon, the White House at last has laid its opening bid on the table, much to the amusement of Sen. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. Something about that additional $50 billion in “stimulus” spending to reduce the deficit just tickles the funny bone.

Though House Republicans now will have to present their own proposal, many conservatives aren’t confident in the negotiating skills of House Speaker John Boehner, with some on Twitter (unsuccessfully) lobbying to replace him. Frankly, it’s not difficult to picture fiscal cliff negotiations looking something like “Thelma and Louise,” with President Obama and Boehner clutching hands before stomping on the accelerator. Maybe they’ll get lucky and land on a pile of worthless dollar bills. Is this the issue where the GOP will find its backbone?

But is there an alternative? Many high-profile conservatives, including Charles Krauthammer and Rush Limbaugh, are suggesting that the GOP simply hand Obama the keys and let him drive off the cliff by himself. The fiscal cliff? He did build that; let him own it.

What will it be? It’s going to be a bumpy ride regardless. Will the GOP buckle, or buckle up?


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  • Cosmo

    GOP counter offer- balance the budget THIS YEAR with current revenues. Not some plan that gets us there in 10 years, but THIS YEAR.

  • Ranadicus

    We need to just start calling it the O-conomy so everybody knows who O-wns it.

    • Elaine

      I think that’s a great Idea. I will use that a lot and hope all those ignorant voters suffering from O.J. Syndrome catch on.

      • TheOriginalDonald

        all those dead voters will go democrats anyhoo

    • NachoCheese (D)

      that’s brilliant!

  • syvyn11

    No matter what we do, we will get blamed. So we walk away. In time, the dims will get the blame.

  • Sue

    I was really conflicted about whether going off the cliff was the best idea … until today! I’m with Charles, Rush, and those of you before me … the GOP should walk away from the table NOW and anyone who breaks ranks does so at their own re-election peril. We KNOW who you are and we KNOW where to vote!

    • Vennoye

      WAY past time for the Republicans to live by their stated convictions……..or kill off the party. It is up to them. If they want future voters, they will walk away from this deal!!!! I started out as a Democrat until they became bats##t crazy. Am already thinking may be time to change again. What they do on this tells the tale.

  • Mike Horve

    I’m afraid that the fifty one percent of the zombie Obama fans don’t care about the cliff. They are blind and deaf of all that is around them except O. That includes Pelosi and Reid.

    • rivers

      No, but they’ll feel it. I’m pretty confident those of us who don’t believe we need to make someone else pay for our birth control are a little better equipped to handle the fallout. The people I know on foodstamps and unemployment who voted for Romney did so because they wanted to get off the dole and get back on track. On the contrary, plenty voted for Obama so that they could stay on foodstamps. There are two very different mentalities at work.

  • Jack Deth

    Memo to Obama:

    You wanted it!
    You got it!
    You OWN it!!!

    • Elaine

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      • Vennoye

        Thank you for the link.

    • EEKman

      Yea go ahead, walk away. Obama gets what he wants and the GOP will get blamed. Great strategy. Go for it.

      • rivers

        Blamed for what exactly, giving Obama exactly what he wants?

        • GaryTheBrave

          At some future press conference.
          Pelosi: “Of course this mess is the fault of Republicans. They walked away from the table and never presented a plan of their own. They believe they are so good at economic matters. This was their opportunity to prove it and they failed.”

      • Finrod Felagund

        Obama and the media will blame Republicans no matter what happens.

        • Michael Morris

          If we’re going to take the blame anyway, then why not stick to our guns?

          • Finrod Felagund

            Precisely. I like how Krauthammer put it, paraphrasing: Lee was offered better terms at the end of the Civil War.

    • GaryTheBrave

      Memo to Obama:

      “You wanted it!
      You got it!
      You OWN it!!!”


      (Couldn’t behave myself.)

  • Finrod Felagund

    We’re already over the fiscal cliff– trillion-dollar deficits 4 years in a row does that. The only question now is how are we going to land: a hard landing, or a crash landing.

    Do you think that we’ll get any significant budget cuts any other way than by walking away and letting the cuts happen? Let the Bush tax cuts expire, we can cut taxes again once Democrats are out of power. Getting spending cuts through Congress is all but impossible, they come up with a 10-year plan where 95+% of the cuts are in years 6 through 10 and they never actually happen. The GOP needs to stop being Charlie Brown to the Democrats’ Lucy on spending cuts! The Democrats want ANOTHER stimulus, they’ll never agree to any real cuts.

    As Alton Brown says about cooking sometimes: Walk away. Just walk away.

  • KansasGirl

    I would…after all O won.

  • digitalPimple

    They aren’t serious. Walk. Go have a nice holiday.

  • rivers

    I’ve been thinking this for days! It’s just so….freeing! It’s all yours, Julia!

  • louisiana_mom

    Walk away now. We will be going over the cliff before the end of Obama’s term anyway, might as well do it at the start of his 2nd term so he can own it 100% instead of waiting until the end and the next president getting the majority of the blame.

  • Grumpa Grumpus

    I heard this same “re-election peril” yakkety-yak starting a year before Ms Lindsay Grahamnesty last re-election.

    Then a week or.three prior to election day every talkshow host made a 180degree turn.

    Including, sadly, Rush & Mark Levine. By sadly I can’t convey my disappointment because although I had expected Hannity to fold– he’s always seem to have a compulsion to seek acceptance– I though Rush & Levine would stick.

    What I heard every talkshow host say was how the seat had to, at all costs, be protected from Proggie hands.

    We were told to “hold the nose, vote him back in & soldier on”.

    That wasn’t a lone instance, either.

    So now they know, (or believe they know) that we’re toothless.

    The absolutely worst thing you can do as an employer, father, military man, etc is to set consequences for actions and renege on the folliw through.

    It doesn’t matter that it was “for a justifiable reason”. The Progressive-Republicans now arrange that reason regularly.

    And so we were (and are) cursed with Lincoln Chaffee, Olympia Snowe, Arlene Specter, Juan McCain, Kay Bailey Hutchinsen, Ms Grahamnesty, Squeaker Bone-Ya, Jumpin’Jim Jeffords,… need I go on?

    I could you know— for paragraphs of space and decades of past.

    So. What to do. What to do?

    We first need to recognize one salient fact: our IF we fail our Country is gone — therefore we have nothing to lose.

    Point this out to them. Tell them you’ll vote them out.
    Tell them IF they survive the primary, we’ll work for any non-Progressive challenger.
    Tell them that you’ll vote against them— even if that means voting for a DumperCrat.
    Tell them: better a snake in its proper skin than a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
    Tell them: better to under the short-term damage to prove you mean it than to be mocked by your employees.

    And then, for God’s sake,follow through!!

    Think on these.things.

    There’s no longer a safe way to return to a Constitutional Republic. We need to take risks. The “playing it safe” may have killed our country.

    Though I fear it is too late,.I pray we’re not.

    Last thing: With God’s help anything can be done, anything’s possible. Get on your knees and pray. Please!

    • Gallatin

      “Tell them: better a snake in its proper skin than a wolf in sheep’s clothing.”

      I couldn’t have said it better. Indiana did its part, we got rid of Richard Lugar. Sure we’re disappointed in the mess that Mourdock wasn’t astute enough to get through; but this Hoosier would rather have joe “I don’t always toe the party line” donnely than Lugar. At least I know now who is going to show up each day in the Senate, the Libturd. With Lugar you didn’t know.

    • GaryTheBrave

      I’ve been wondering, GG, why they haven’t been working on this the last 18 months. They knew it was coming. Was it because they needed to use the time to campaign? I thought that was the reason they set the time limit to 1/1/13 so that it would not affect the election.

      Now they have the whole country in a dander. Why do I think all of our elected officials are playing us?

  • BeeKaaay

    The RINOpublican party will cave, just like clockwork.

    • louisiana_mom

      I hope you are wrong… I know you’re not but once, just once, I would love to see them do the right thing…

  • Guest

    I say,I say, let that Harry Reid figure it out. “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent”

    • GaryTheBrave

      Harry will probably say something like, “Since the Republicans didn’t participate we couldn’t get the two-thirds necessary to override the filibuster.” (The filibuster that never was.)

  • Osumashi Kinyobe

    You know it’s bad when people burst into laughter at your suggestions.

    If there is anyone who should take a holiday (instead of the Thief-in-Chief), it’s the Republicans. Get out of town so they can truthfully say they were nowhere NEAR the mess Obama made.

  • Leonie Alemann

    Republicans in Congress need to just vote present or abstain altogether; make sure that Obama & Co are forced to accept responsibility for Obamanomics and the Progressives for the 20th-century-long anti-American conspiracy that is the Progressive Movement.

    • Noelie Bourne

      Yup, this is what I keep saying.

  • Emjay Grakykat

    ok, but isn’t this just academic? I mean, who believes for a second the GOP hasn’t a fraction of the courage to actually walk away? McConnell laughing at Geithner? Big whoop. Actions speak louder than posturing.

  • Hal Burton

    NO on the debt ceiling increase balances the budget overnight and kills Obamacare. Why would you not vote no?

  • Tom Ellis

    the majority of Americans voted for him so apparently they agree with what he is doing.It is time you 47% owned it. By the way, once the Bush tax cuts are gone, many of you 47% ers will acutally have to pay taxes, that may change your tune a bit as for the rest of us, it is time to go full on Galt!!!

    • Noelie Bourne


  • disappearing moderate

    Oh forget that silly debt ceiling thing. O’s pulling a Morsi.

  • Everybodys All American

    The best deal is to walk. There are at least some cuts in the current law enacted come January although not near enough to bring the budget under control and so the responsible adult thing to do is to walk away. This economy has Obama’s signature all over it and so let him deal with the consequence in the lack of job growth and therefore economic growth.

    There is one consequence to this and you better be ready. Executive orders will come fast and furious from the dictator.

  • JustLikeAnimals

    Agree. Republicans should walk.

    Obama has handcrafted this mess for the last four years with repeated attempts to spend his way out of this financial quagmire. He’s borrowed and borrowed, stacking debt and interest on top of debt and interest.

    He’s added $6T to the national debt (and climbing). He’s ignored every advice and warning about the perils of this mounting debt. He’s increased social welfare spending to historical highs without regard to how it was going to be paid for, and he’s rammed Obamacare down this country’s collective throat and doesn’t give a good goddamn about how it will affect not just businesses, but the average working individual. And now he comes to the table suggesting a “tax now-cut later” approach to solving this mess that he created.


    If Obama and his henchmen can’t produce a plan that has a 1:1 ratio of new revenue to expense cuts, then he should be left alone to deal with the fiscal cliff. He’s “led” us up to the edge of the cliff. Let him “lead” us over it.

    Perhaps then these takers, zombies, worshipers, and sycophants who adorn him with much undeserved adulation will finally see that their emperor truly has no clothes.

    • GaryTheBrave

      I agree. He’s been saying we need to sit in the back while he drives this car out of the ditch. Fine. Just make sure the seatbelt’s tight because it is gonna hurt.

  • nc

    Republicans are the Math Party but Dems are the English Party. They don’t get the numbers but we don’t get the messaging. So don’t try to reason with them on the math, their eyes just glaze over.

    Walk away and work like hell on the messaging.

    • BeeKaaay

      “Dems are the English Party”


      The democrats are the PRESS 1 FOR ENGLISH party.

  • Marcy Cook

    Not only should they walk away but they should demand all the press be at the GOP press conference when they announce WHY and then they should tell everyone….don’t even try to blame us….you wanted 4 more years….let the one you elected FINALLY do his job by himself since he won’t work with anyone, not even those in his own party. Let’s fall over the cliff and get this damn thing over with. It is more torturous to have to go through this kabuki show each day.

  • Evi L. Bloggerlady

    I have a bad feeling over this. Just so there is no confusion, The guy on his knees is Boehner…

  • stuckinIL4now

    GOP is gonna get blamed anyway, so at least have some self-respect left. If they give the libturds what they want, give Osquanderer more money to spend, he’s gonna keep spending and spending and spending and it will not end until America collapses. This has to end here and it never will unless the the GOP takes a stand, here and now, and just says NO!

    • EEKman

      You do know he has cut the deficit by quite a lot already right? Hes the lowest government spender since Eisenhower. What planet are you on?

      • リー

        Yeah, and water is solid and you can gain liberties by giving away your freedom.

      • BeeKaaay

        Eisenhower had a deficit in the millions.
        Obama has a deficit in the TRILLIONS.

        You don’t know your math.

  • Everybodys All American

    The fiscal cliff is more or less an attempt for the US to live with some constraints. ie. a budget. This fiscal cliff talk is all a result of Obama never passing a budget in almost four years. Remember also Obama talked about how bad the Bush tax cuts were for years and years as he ran for president. So let em expire and just prepare for the blame game.

  • Lady 12

    Two questions:
    First, won’t going off the fiscal cliff destroy the economy?
    Second, won’t Owebama then be able to blame the Republicans for the nasty economy? He won’t be forced to own it at all, he’ll just dump it off on the GOP.

    • nc

      1. What the Dems are “offering” is destroying the economy anyway (no spending cuts, more spending, BHO can raise the debt limit by himself, plus higher taxes).
      2. BHO and the Dems (and The Messengers – MSM) will blame the GOP no matter what.

      Am I wrong?

    • Vennoye

      The Republicans are in a lose, lose situation…there is no win here for them at all, no matter what they do. This is, however the only option they have left to shut down the devaluation of the dollar on the Republican side. I’m sure helicopter Ben will step in again!


    I will not vote or even listen to any Republican from Texas that even sits down with this dictator.

  • JoeMusgo

    Obama is playing a cynical game. If we go over the cliff he gets tax increases on BOTH the wealthy & middle class. That is why the Dems have suggested additional stimulus and spending increases rather than spending cuts, which is of course DOA. It’s a win/win for them, and a loss/loss for taxpayers.

  • Ariadnea

    Should Boehner fold, he will still not win the media, as well as he will lose the base, and losing the country’s well being most of all. There is only one option available for Boehner, fight for the country’s well being by forcing this admin. in controlling the over expanding spending now! Walk away when serious spending is not on the table. Don’t be content of a token or a mere promise of future spending cuts. Should Democrats not negotiate in good faith, grant Democrats their wish in jumping off the Cliff. Let them own it!

    • rivers

      Republicans have nothing to lose with respect to the media. Meanwhile, I’m laughing at the progs online who are getting all testy about the idea that Republicans should just give Obama what he wants and walk away. Why are they suddenly so resistant to that idea?

      • Noelie Bourne

        Does seem sorta fishy eh? They know. I mean how can you not know that their fiscal policies are a joke. You can’t spend yourself into prosperity and the deficit is because of SPENDING. It’s so simple a 1st grader could get it.

        • rivers

          Yep. Steny Hoyer was out there today saying Geithner’s proposal was meant to be a starting point. I laughed out loud at that. We know where Obama’s policies are going to take us, we’re not the ones in for the rude awakening.

  • PennyRobinsonFanClub

    Republicans should just smile and nod and say “Whatever you want,” and vote yes. That way, when things go to shht, everyone will know exactly who to blame, and Sock Puppet can’t blame “obstructionist Republicans” for standing in his way.

    • Noelie Bourne

      no. not yes.. PRESENT. the only yehs should be lib ones and present to not have our voice be the ones having to own it. PRESENT is the word we want them to use.

    • BeeKaaay

      And who will do the blaming?

      The leftwingwacko dominated MSM will paint this as a RINOPUBLICAN failure.

      What a stupid idea. “We have to destroy America to save America”

      Remember what happened to the Weimar Republic thanks to their profligate spending.

      And what happened afterwards.

      That is where we are going.

  • alohasteve

    GOP House Video:

    We’ve Got Your Back Small Business:

  • Greycoat

    With $16 trillion in debt already, I believe we jumped off the cliff some time ago. We just haven’t hit bottom yet. Obama is out to destroy this country and our economy and the GOP weenies are letting him do it…..cowards.

  • Greycoat

    In defense of the U.S. Constitution, our liberties, our freedoms, our country, our families, our faith, our livelihood, and our property, I support secession and/or a civil war against this corrupt Federal regime using the same force, if necessary, that our Founding Fathers used against King George III. Meanwhile, the people’s treasury is being robbed, raped, and pillaged by Obama’s global Marxist wealth redistribution scheme. Obama is purposely destroying this country and the GOP is unable to stand up against him and Obama’s media lapdogs.

    An excerpt from the Declaration of Independence and note it is not only our RIGHT but our DUTY:

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

    Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

    • GaryTheBrave

      Civil War? No. Revolution? YES!

  • 56Survivor

    The GOP need to simply say “No”. If they cannot do that in the face of absolute financial insanity, then it is time for a viable 3rd party to form and destroy them. This is our Waterloo.

    • BeeKaaay

      The RINOpublican party will cave. Guaranteed.

  • ratizbad

    Give Hussein the keys to his Government Motors Chevy Volt and let him burn up going off the cliff,What a good day that would be.

  • Alex

    Obama, you OWN the economy! You’re accountable for it, don’t keep blaming everybody else.

  • Paul C.

    Obummer leaves town after crapping over the fiscal cliff, take it or leave it

  • Kate

    Does anyone remember who was Speaker of the House when the Great Depression hit? Or during the Carter years, when the economy was in the worst slump in decades?

    Walking away is the best solution because it allows Obama to ruin his own legacy. Since he cares about that more than he cares about the country, let him dig his own grave (metaphorically, of course, for the liberal trolls on here!).

  • Xplodeit