It’s a SNAP: 7-Eleven now marketing pizza with food stamp logo [photos]

Obama’s food-stamp nation, 7-Eleven edition:

Looks that way. There’s even a sign at a Virginia 7-Eleven with the SNAP logo and not one, but two exclamation points.

And if the line’s long, there’s always Starbucks for your “supplemental nutritional” needs”

Can we get a ruling on this?

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  • Love of Country

    Ever had a hard time justifying all of the necessary/expensive stuff you’re buying for your family at the grocery store and then have to look at the slacker drug addict in line just behind you and have to look at all the stuff in his cart that you’re paying for too? Yeah …. it kinda sucks.

    • Elaine

      Plus, they never go without their own cigarettes and beer. Somehow they always seem to find the money for those? I’m all for helping a poor person feed their family, but come on. They don’t sacrifice. That’s why we have food pantries and soup kitchens.

      • irishgirl91

        I work with several young people who are supporting their young families. They all are having a hard time (as most young families do), but they all smoke! I want to tell them that they would save a ton of money just giving up that one addiction. But that would be considered judgmental, so never mind.

      • 3seven77

        Ever notice how many have extensive tattoos? Those aren’t free either.

    • Peggy Snider

      Not all who are on welfare are drug addicts but I think they should get drug tested I had to for my job but my point is they can use it at walmart to buy frozen pizza so there isn’t much difference. What pisses me off that they can buy redbull.

  • Kimberly Stanley

    What happened to all the healthy food in school they are pushing on kids who pay with mom and dads money. Now they can buy crap at 7/11 with all our money. Is something wrong here and shouldn’t they just drink water.

    • QueenB

      Seriously. Had a debate with a guy on that subject the other day and how kids are starving by the end of the day. His comeback, “well then, we should just feed them pizza” meant sarcastically and like I’m an idiot. Guess they saw that guy’s post and ran with it.

    • therealguyfaux

      “…[S]houldn’t they just drink water?”

      Well, according to the Big Missy, yassum, they should.

    • therealguyfaux

      “…[S]houldn’t they just drink water?”

      Well, according to the Big Missy, yassum, they should.

  • Maxwell

    I”m not completely against this. A pizza can feed a whole family, and, depending on what is on it, has the potential to be somewhat healthy. Just be grateful they can’t buy whiskey or cigarettes… yet.

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      But when it is brought to you by the same President preaching to everyone about eating healthy and on the evils of fatty foods it comes off as a bit hypocritical wouldn’t you say?

      • Maxwell

        Of course it is, but hypocrisy from this administration no longer shocks me.

      • Maxwell

        Of course it is, but hypocrisy from this administration no longer shocks me.

    • Zach Smith

      Money is fungible, so whatever they don’t have to spend on food can be spent on whiskey or cigarettes.

  • http://www.nleomf.org/officers/ FlatFoot

    Stay hungry my friends.

    • WisconsinPatriot

      *****LOOK******
      It’s a drunk and on drugs happy fun time card!!!!!

  • Michelle

    At least it’s not as bad as two years ago when I was in Walgreen’s and found they had shelf signs all over the Halloween candy aisle reminding folks the can use EBT to purchase the candy. I counted 15 signs in the Halloween candy aisle, went to the actual food aisle and found only 2 signs.

    • lainer51

      I was in line the other day to PAY FOR MY OWN FOOD and in the dairy case was a big-ass sign on the high energy drinks a.k.a. – massive caffeine – that said (proudly) “EBT approved”…. wtf? Is that a necessity now – getting kids all hyped up on caffeine and I am paying for it???????????????? Would MeShell approve of such a thing? Me thinks not.

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        The worst part about that, is energy drinks used to be labeled as ‘Supplements’ and on the back, was the chart, but said ‘Supplement Facts’, and they weren’t covered under EBT. I was so happy to (figuratively) smack down all the kids coming in with their parent’s ebt cards and wanting to buy 1-5 Monsters. Now, however, they have changed their labeling to reflect ‘Nutrition Facts’, so they are now approved for purchase with EBT. Disgusting…

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        The worst part about that, is energy drinks used to be labeled as ‘Supplements’ and on the back, was the chart, but said ‘Supplement Facts’, and they weren’t covered under EBT. I was so happy to (figuratively) smack down all the kids coming in with their parent’s ebt cards and wanting to buy 1-5 Monsters. Now, however, they have changed their labeling to reflect ‘Nutrition Facts’, so they are now approved for purchase with EBT. Disgusting…

    • lainer51

      I was in line the other day to PAY FOR MY OWN FOOD and in the dairy case was a big-ass sign on the high energy drinks a.k.a. – massive caffeine – that said (proudly) “EBT approved”…. wtf? Is that a necessity now – getting kids all hyped up on caffeine and I am paying for it???????????????? Would MeShell approve of such a thing? Me thinks not.

  • http://www.t-gk.net/ RJ

    Marketing ploy to increase Obamacare registrations for the chronically obese?

    • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

      They still have to go and pick up the pizza. No delivery offered, as of yet. Hell, in Michigan, EBT even covers the deposit on cans… so that means, people will go and purchase cases of soda on EBT and empty the cans for the 2.40deposit and buy their booze/smokes. I’ve seen that happen too. Some lady, decided she wanted to first, pour a case out in my garden, and then the second time, in the parking lot behind my car. I stormed out of the store, caught her, and told her (and I quote) “Take that sh!t and go do that at your own f*cking house!”

    • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

      They still have to go and pick up the pizza. No delivery offered, as of yet. Hell, in Michigan, EBT even covers the deposit on cans… so that means, people will go and purchase cases of soda on EBT and empty the cans for the 2.40deposit and buy their booze/smokes. I’ve seen that happen too. Some lady, decided she wanted to first, pour a case out in my garden, and then the second time, in the parking lot behind my car. I stormed out of the store, caught her, and told her (and I quote) “Take that sh!t and go do that at your own f*cking house!”

  • Elaine

    Doesn’t shock me. Here they can buy lobster and they do! They even complain that they can’t call ahead and get the pre-cooked ones. Imagine.

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    Not that I support it, but hey, it’s at least better than purchasing Monster energy drinks, snacks and candy with the EBT card(I see that every day!). At least the pizza’s a hot meal.

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    Not that I support it, but hey, it’s at least better than purchasing Monster energy drinks, snacks and candy with the EBT card(I see that every day!). At least the pizza’s a hot meal.

  • The Jackal

    Fucking Parasites 👆

  • The Jackal

    Fucking Parasites 👆

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    So I read our EBT retailer’s guidelines… and we’re supposed to treat EBT users the same as regular customers. It’s a bit difficult, though, when some lazy a$$hat comes in and buys food on his EBT, and then buys 4 24oz beers on his unemployment funds debit card. Then asks if he can have the day old bread, which we typically keep so the local kids can grab a loaf and feed the ducks. (Can’t sell stuff that’s past date, ya know.)

    • lainer51

      and don’t forget, they can get ‘cash back’ if they use their faux debit card. That is what they buy their cigarettes with. Nice gig, if you can get it.

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        Yes. I found that out a few weeks ago.. Some guy came in and wanted some pint of alcohol, and declared he was going to use the ‘cash option’ of his EBT… Since I was unaware that we could do that, I told him no, it’s not possible. He said, sure it is… I repeated that it wasn’t, and if he tried, it just wouldn’t go through… He asked, “Are you sure?” and without hesitation, I said, ‘I’m positive!’. Then my boss corrected me, after the matter. I cringe when I eventually have to honor that, with other cash paying customers (also purchasing alcohol) looking on in disbelief and disgust…

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        Yes. I found that out a few weeks ago.. Some guy came in and wanted some pint of alcohol, and declared he was going to use the ‘cash option’ of his EBT… Since I was unaware that we could do that, I told him no, it’s not possible. He said, sure it is… I repeated that it wasn’t, and if he tried, it just wouldn’t go through… He asked, “Are you sure?” and without hesitation, I said, ‘I’m positive!’. Then my boss corrected me, after the matter. I cringe when I eventually have to honor that, with other cash paying customers (also purchasing alcohol) looking on in disbelief and disgust…

    • lainer51

      and don’t forget, they can get ‘cash back’ if they use their faux debit card. That is what they buy their cigarettes with. Nice gig, if you can get it.

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    So I read our EBT retailer’s guidelines… and we’re supposed to treat EBT users the same as regular customers. It’s a bit difficult, though, when some lazy a$$hat comes in and buys food on his EBT, and then buys 4 24oz beers on his unemployment funds debit card. Then asks if he can have the day old bread, which we typically keep so the local kids can grab a loaf and feed the ducks. (Can’t sell stuff that’s past date, ya know.)

  • Damien Johnson

    Wait a minute; How the f*ck are they on twitter and on food stamps?!

    And my personal opinion is there should be a limit to how often you can get fast food with food stamps. I don’t want to say they shouldn’t be able to eat out at all, but I definitely feel it isn’t fair that they get to eat out for free, but other people have to pay for that, and they have to pay when they want to eat out. EBT should be allowed to use on fast food once every 6 months or something like that.

  • Damien Johnson

    Wait a minute; How the f*ck are they on twitter and on food stamps?!

    And my personal opinion is there should be a limit to how often you can get fast food with food stamps. I don’t want to say they shouldn’t be able to eat out at all, but I definitely feel it isn’t fair that they get to eat out for free, but other people have to pay for that, and they have to pay when they want to eat out. EBT should be allowed to use on fast food once every 6 months or something like that.

  • Marcy Cook

    I work for a non-profit. I take credit cards and have a terminal in my office. The terminal broke. They sent me a new one and this one allows me to accept EBT. Wonder if our donations will increase?

  • Marcy Cook

    I work for a non-profit. I take credit cards and have a terminal in my office. The terminal broke. They sent me a new one and this one allows me to accept EBT. Wonder if our donations will increase?

  • kayakingfatso

    I was raised on welfare and food stamps. For us, there was quite a bit of humiliation handing over those colored stamps to the cashier. Though my family needed it, and were grateful for the assistance, it came with a price.
    Nowadays, people are proud to be on food stamps and gloat about it.

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      Exactly, there is a difference between needing it and staying in it because it is easier to not work.

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        Exactly. My husband and I aren’t rich, by any stretch, and we could probably qualify for assistance. Difference is, it’s still shameful to us, knowing that even though we can’t afford luxury, we can at least prioritize and get the things we need on our meager wages. Ramen noodles, baby. Mac N’ cheese and hot dogs.

        • RightFinShark

          You sound like like a real, good, true, honest American. Never lose your values and morals. Remember, there is a special place in hell for all sloths.

          Have a great day,K.

          • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

            I identify as a Christian, and the Bible does say, ‘If a man will not work, neither should he eat’… the words are key in the Word… it says nothing about someone who CANNOT work, only about someone who WILL NOT. Big difference, in my book. And I thank you for the blessing, RFShark. May God bless you and yours.

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      Exactly, there is a difference between needing it and staying in it because it is easier to not work.

  • kayakingfatso

    I was raised on welfare and food stamps. For us, there was quite a bit of humiliation handing over those colored stamps to the cashier. Though my family needed it, and were grateful for the assistance, it came with a price.
    Nowadays, people are proud to be on food stamps and gloat about it.

  • kayakingfatso

    wait a minute… STARBUCKS can be purchased with an EBT card?! Hey, everyone’s entitled to coffee, but really? This country has no shame.

  • kayakingfatso

    wait a minute… STARBUCKS can be purchased with an EBT card?! Hey, everyone’s entitled to coffee, but really? This country has no shame.

  • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine

    Cripes, you people are unbelievable. I worked my ass off for 20 years and got laid off. Unable to find a job I ended up needing to apply for food stamps. Do you think your collective BS attitude of “parasites” and people on food stamps being less than human is a good thing? Are you proud of yourselves? The arrogance? It’s disgusting. For 20 years I paid taxes that funded every single program available. Now people like me are supposed to be insulted and verbally dismissed for needing help?? What an incredible display of Christian values. I sincerely hope none of you ever need help when things get bad, and if you do, I hope people treat you like dirt.

    • The Penguin #PublishThatSh*t

      Most of what you’re seeing here are comments regarding the exploitation of the foodstamp program and using it as advertisement by 7 11, and those that abuse the usage. Also comparing it to FLOTUS’ “healthy agenda”. Most folks see the need for having the program (my mom was on the program when I was young), and do not feel anyone in true need is beneath them. I’m sorry for your plight, and I hope your situation gets better soon.

      • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine

        Thank you. :)

    • Zach Smith

      How about a thank you to your fellow citizens who have made that help possible?

      • thetreyman

        why do that when the victim card is so much easier to play.

        • Zathras11 @B5

          I don’t think she WANTS the help. I do think she needs it and is grateful. She just doesn’t want to be lumped in with that surfer on FNC who was buying lobster.

          • thetreyman

            she doesn’t want any stigma attached to food stamps. if there is no stigma then there is no need for people to put a rush on getting off of them. her idea that she ‘payed her taxes for 20 years’ is irrelevant unless she believes in redistribution of wealth.

      • Zathras11 @B5

        She just doesn’t want to be lumped in with that surfer on FNC who was buying lobster. I don’t think she WANTS the help. I do think she needs it and is grateful.

      • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine

        *I* made the help possible just as much as anyone else. I’ve worked since I was 17-years old. I’ve contributed to the system, I’ve paid lots of taxes. Who exactly am I supposed to “thank”? I put in just as much as anyone else.

        • thetreyman

          so because you payed for other people for years it’s only right that others pay for you for a while? there is no account you payed into. i have been working since i was about 7 and never collected a dime of “entitlement” money. i’m not saying that there aren’t those that need help sometimes but don’t be so smug about it and feel you deserve some pay back.

          • RightFinShark

            Exactly why I STOPPED paying income taxes. All of my business is now done with cash or barter. I refuse to pay for other people’s laziness, $5.55 pizza, and God only knows what else. If the government doesn’t like it then they can put me in prison for tax evasion. I am not paying to them ever again.

    • Zathras11 @B5

      I know people that are in the same boat right now, @KristineAz. I hope that things turn around for you soon. God bless you.

      • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine

        Thank you. I recently started my own business, so fingers crossed, things will definitely turn around. :)

        • The Penguin #PublishThatSh*t

          Good luck!

        • Jeff Coil

          If you recently started your own business, then you are trying to get OFF food stamps. That means you are NOT one of the “parasites” they are referring to. So please calm down and stop being over-sensitive. I grew up on food stamps, so I know there are people who need help, and I don’t mind helping them. The “parasites” are the ones who DONT do anything to help themselves.

        • Jeff Coil

          If you recently started your own business, then you are trying to get OFF food stamps. That means you are NOT one of the “parasites” they are referring to. So please calm down and stop being over-sensitive. I grew up on food stamps, so I know there are people who need help, and I don’t mind helping them. The “parasites” are the ones who DONT do anything to help themselves.

    • lainer51

      A real incredible display of Christian values would be to say thank you for the help. I guess that never occurred to you.
      You are welcome, anyway.

      • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine

        Umm. I’ve paid into the system for over two decades. I don’t have to thank anyone for something I contributed.

        • Jeff Coil

          Sorry, but food stamps is not social security; you didn’t “pay into” anything. You also “pay” for the Fire Department. Do the firemen deserve no thanks when they save your families life? Police and Military too. Do police officers and soldiers deserve no thanks for the dangerous jobs they do?

        • Jeff Coil

          Sorry, but food stamps is not social security; you didn’t “pay into” anything. You also “pay” for the Fire Department. Do the firemen deserve no thanks when they save your families life? Police and Military too. Do police officers and soldiers deserve no thanks for the dangerous jobs they do?

        • lainer51

          2 decades? that’s all? Most people (not the slackers of course) work 50 years or more to “contribute” to your existence and have never taken a dime from YOU!! You most certainly do need to thank them. Let me guess – you voted for THE MAN!!!!!

    • Jill

      I’m Jewish, so perhaps I am simply unfamiliar with Christian doctrine, but how is it a violation of values to suggest that foods that have little by way of nutrition and much in the way of fat should not be marketed specifically to the EBT set? As a “Supplemental Nutrition Program” shouldn’t responsible nutrition be key? Should recipients be actively encouraged to make expensive and unwise decisions?

      • http://www.GONINERS.com/ Kristine

        Perhaps you are unfamiliar with my post? I didn’t mention nutrition. I commented on the majority of people here being arrogant and smug, calling people parasites for needing help. How people who need SNAP are lower than low, are only deserving of sneers and being kicked when they’re already down.

        I do not believe “entitlements” should be a life-long goal. It should be temporary, there should be limits, etc.

        But treating people like they are scum because they have fallen on hard times? It’s pathetic.

        There will always be people who abuse a system, however that does not define the whole. I’m betting there would be many people incredibly upset if, for example, every Christian was defined by the actions of Westboro Baptist.

        • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

          Maybe you should see what people actually do with their EBT cards before rushing to ‘judgment’. Christian values, remember… ‘Judge not lest ye be judged’… hypocritical judgment, that is.

    • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

      No, you’re just not supposed to use EBT/benefits for CRAP. Period. Nothing wrong with buying ACTUAL food… it’s all the empty calorie crap that these morons are buying. If you don’t practice that, then you’re obviously an exception.

      • RightFinShark

        They need to give them a giant bag of rice, powdered milk and a big block of gubmint cheese and that is all. If you want pizza,lobster and steak, GET A JOB. If you can’t find one you’re not looking hard enough.

  • plaingolf

    Now now. Let’s not blame private industry for taking advantage of government largess. That’s what a progessive would do.

  • Mark Mitchell

    How is this possible? I thought SNAP/EBT food funds could only be used on ‘non-prepared foods’, ie a take-and-bake pizza may be okay, but a hot one would not? I’m still a big proponent of the food stamp program being changed to work more like the WIC program, where only certain foods are eligible. Yes, there are times when people may need the assistance, but if they’re taking government aid, then they can eat what the government dictates. It’d then help those really needing it, while discouraging mooches.

    • gman213

      If were about principal that would work, since it is about vote buying….another matter.

      • Jeff Coil

        Sad but true.

      • Jeff Coil

        Sad but true.

  • Belle

    Convenience store puchases are ripe with millions in fraud. Come in for a $5.55 pizza, they ring you up $100.00, give you $50.00 in change and store pockets the rest. They should exclude conveniece store purchases. http://www.abc4.com/content/news/slc/story/Feds-conduct-food-stamp-fraud-raids-in-Ogden/4v8y3g7ypEuGT_pqe-_61A.cspx hundreds if not thousands of cases out there, this is just one local example.

    • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

      That doesn’t happen in my store… I run a liquor/convenience store in the heart of a small downtown district of a small town. I’m a total EBT nazi! Besides, stores that practice illicit purchases like above risk losing not just their EBT license, but their liquor license and retail sales licenses.

      • Belle

        You are honest. These folks are not. Did you see their names? They will lose the liscense come back and add a hyphen to their names and get a new one.

        • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

          I appreciate that. We try to keep it honest at our store… aside from kids with sticky fingers. Since there’s blatant use of EBT benefits that I see every day, from people that it’s CLEAR can afford the items they are purchasing on food stamps, there’s no way in HELL someone will ever get more than what they buy on their EBT at my store.

  • Renny

    In PA you cannot buy prepared foods with Ebt.

    • Jill

      In my region (not sure about the broader state as our town is something of a special case with a transient population) of South Carolina, a SNAP card can be used at most fast food and fish/roadside stand style restaurants.

    • stuckinIL4now

      Not in Illannoy either.

  • Maxx

    They have no problems getting an EBT card but God forbid, these womb to tombs have to get a photo ID to vote….but wait….don’t you need a photo ID to receive food stamps in the first place?

    Where are all of these disenfranchised liberal voters?

  • gman213

    Oh Michelllllle, where are you? Grab your water and preach about the horrors of poor people eating pizza…..crickets

  • Sharkteeth

    This is for the drug dealers when they get hungry in da hood. In poor neighborhoods convenience stores always have the dealers somewhere close by. People go down buy their drugs and spend their last few $ on snack food. That is just the way it is.

  • stuckinIL4now

    Looks like that movement to exclude “junk” foods from EBT purchases is working out well.

    • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

      Ha! I see it everyday. Not only that, but there’s people that come into my store and use their EBT to buy mixers for their alcohol…. Yes, they can obviously afford a half-pint/pint of Jaegermeister, but can’t afford the Red Bull that goes with it… so that goes on the EBT.

  • o0Nighthawk0o

    This is nothing new. Pappa Murphy’s has always taken food stamps. As long as the food isn’t cooked it qualifies. I don’t agree with it but this has been going on for years.

  • ToyZebra

    Hey Michelle, how about limiting EBT users to your healthy food? It might inspire them if all they can buy is arugula.

    • Jeff Coil

      Now THAT’s an idea.

    • Jeff Coil

      Now THAT’s an idea.

  • Jacqueline H.

    I just saw those signs today at the 7-11 by my work and just shook my head. Freaking ridiculous.

  • Unicorns and Rainbows

    HeII! I accepted LONG ago that my money goes to this type of $hit!

  • objectivefactsmatter

    Just wait till the socialists have dominant control. You won’t even get foodstamps at all. You’ll be waiting in line for a bread voucher.

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    Don’t you forget now, all the snack/candy/fast food corporations LOBBIED for this.

  • Jer

    It might not be the food stamps everyone. The EBT card does more than just the FS. Still not a good thing.

  • angelaisms

    I used to work at a take and bake pizza shop in Oregon. We could take EBT (SNAP) cards because we didn’t bake the pizzas in the shop.

    I worked the register a lot; EBT customers fell largely into one of two camps. There were the people who genuinely needed the assistance, who would come in once in awhile and buy a simple pizza when they had a good coupon. Then there were the ones who clearly didn’t need it — they would come in at the beginning of the month every month, buy the most expensive pizzas they could get, load them with extras, and get a few bottles of soda. (Incidentally, the soda would have been much cheaper had they bought it at the grocery store across the road.)

    I clearly remember one family who fit the latter bill perfectly; they were all very fat. I remember a pair of women who came in and paid for their pizzas with food stamps while talking openly about the large quantities of alcohol they had purchased for a party that weekend. I remember a man who pulled out his food stamp card saying, “This way I won’t have to waste money on food.” These people weren’t anomalies — they’re just the ones that stick out in my mind. At the time I was skipping meals due to lack of money, but had no desire to number myself among those people.

    • NBPS

      Bravo! I’ve been in the same situation — going a bit hungry, but unwilling to jump into the grinding Big Gov handout wheel.

  • http://mpj.co WhoDat

    Local catfish place takes SNAP for the raw fish and then cooks it for you.

  • Rusty Shackleford

    I’m not a big fan of EBT, but 7-11 pizza is pretty good after 15 Bud Lights. The Tacquitos ain’t bad either.

  • radicallyalyssa

    Welcome to Obama’s America, 2013 edition.

  • Right Wired

    I think I’ll go on welfare…I’ll get all of my money back.

  • Misanthrope

    I’m grateful every time the welfare turds use food stamps to buy food, instead of selling them to buy liquor.

  • Tessa I.

    Yes we can . . . buy junk food on the public dime.

  • Jeff Coil

    It wasn’t too long ago you could not buy prepared food with EBT unless it was cold (which meant you would have to heat it up at home). That’s why my local grocery chain put some of its rotisserie chicken in the cooler. I guess Obama changed that. How much longer before EBT can be used at McDonalds?

  • Jeff Coil

    It wasn’t too long ago you could not buy prepared food with EBT unless it was cold (which meant you would have to heat it up at home). That’s why my local grocery chain put some of its rotisserie chicken in the cooler. I guess Obama changed that. How much longer before EBT can be used at McDonalds?

  • Moue La Moue

    I always enjoy seeing tweens and teens, carting around their parents EBT card — and buying crap like chips, or soda. It’s such a wonderful opportunity for them to make healthy, wholesome eating decisions. And then listen to my husband, who works HARD all night long, scanning people who eat nothing but junk 24/7 complain of their belly pains. As if those chips and sodas are going to do anything but enlarge your waist line. Good luck with that Healthy Head Start or whatever Nazi food program you have Mrs. O. Because really, it’s working out so well!

  • S.r. Johnson

    Used to be the food stamp program was run at the county level. Ever heard of government cheese? They used to just give folks the essential, basic foods. But, that was probably violating civil rights. After all, who are we to tell a Mother she has to actually cook dinner?

  • Maxwell

    How so?

  • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

    If you’re a “strict constructionist,” then the US Air Force is unConstitutional. I’ll spare you the lecture, since I’m in the middle of some old Dr. Who, but do a little real legal research and how the Constitutonality of any law or act is parsed out.

  • Damien Johnson

    That’s messed up. There’s something really ill about the welfare system.

  • thetreyman

    we know how it’s done. judges relying on case law instead of original intent. or they just make it up on the fly.

  • thetreyman

    where in the constitution does the federal government have the power to take from one to give to another. it’s not there. progressive judges read that into it. and since they don’t teach law like they used to, most judges rely on case law and not original intent.

  • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

    Ah, “The Talons of Weng Chiang!” One of the best, classic Tom Baker Dr. Who!

    Anyway, lads, looks like a bit of Con Law lecture is in order after all. All I’d meant to convey is that it is a basic principle of the law that when a legislative body, from the US Congress down to the local Town Council, passes a law, there is what’s called a “rebuttable presumption” that it is Constitutional. Sorry, but that is a simple fact. That means that is stands as Constitutional until a court decides otherwise. Disagree with the idea all you like, but that is a simple truth. And all of Ironhawk’s unseemly vituperations (since deleted) do not change that.

    But let’s take a moment: suppose we do take Federal welfare provisions up the ladder and ultimately do get a decision from the Supreme Court that they are un-Constitutional. What then? Well, we still have the provisions of the 10th Amendment: all powers not given to the Federal government are reserved to the states. So any similar welfare programs are, per se, perfectly Constitutional if implemented by state authorities. You haven’t solved ANY problem, all you’ve done is knocked it over to a different authority. That’s the problem here in Mass., where Romneycare prefigured Obamacare. Perfectly Constitututional, since it’s a state effort.

    That’s another point I was making about the Air Force. The Constitution provides for the Army, the Navy (including the Marines) and the Coast Guard. Not a word about the Air Force. Does anyone really think we need to roll the USAF back into the US Army Air Corp? That’s what strict construction would demand. Make of it what you will.

  • Maxwell

    Once money leaves your hands, and goes to the government’s in the form of taxes, it is no longer your money. It is the government’s, and they are free to do with it as they please, unfortunately. Their not really taking it, since the idea of taxes is payment to the government.

  • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

    Sorry, another law lecture. Reliance on case law is the absolute bedrock foundation of Anglo-American common law. It is what separates us from European style civil law, where a judge examines only a particular statute and decides how it might apply without regard to how other courts have applied it in the past. That’s why 90% of law school texts are casebooks, showing the development of law around a particular issue over the years as different courts examine different permutations, and 90% of the law has no statute to derive “original intent” from. A LOT of American law predates the United States itself, and was little changed by the Revolution and Constitution. The modern idea of the trust, property held for the benefit of another, traces back to laws enacted by King Henry VIII! Yes, in recent years, a lot of law has been codified into “Uniform Codes,” but even these are, for the most part, spelling out in particular what centuries of common law have already established. Good example: the ever popular standard for criminal conviction as “beyond a reasonable doubt” may be codified in some places, but the principle dates back to Medieval times.

    So bottom line: relying on case law is precisely what judges SHOULD do.

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    They also have nice manicures.

  • thetreyman

    that is how it works in a monarchy or dictatorship. as it is, we live in a constitutional republic and all monies belong to the people. money earned is representative of a product of labor, be it physical or mental. so, does the government have the right to take my labor and bestow the fruits upon someone else? humans are only alive for a finite amount of time and only have a finite amount of labor with which to amass any fortune. i, and the founders, believe that a free man should not be compelled to labor for the fortunes of others.

  • thetreyman

    what case law was used when the supreme court destroyed the commerce clause and gave plenary power to federal government to regulate everything?

  • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

    Name the specific case you’re speaking of and I may be able to respond.

  • thetreyman

    wickard v filburn. where they pretty much said not engaging in interstate commerce can be regulated because it somehow affects interstate commerce. the founders would have never thought the regulation of interstate commerce would have been interpreted like this. the intent was so states wouldn’t levy tariffs on other states so as to allow a free flow of goods throughout the states. the government has turned this idea on it’s head and have now used that decision to insert itself into everything.

  • Maxwell

    I agree that the government, and its people, only have so much money, and we cannot afford to waste it investing it into those who will not contribute or make anything of themselves. However, I do not want to waste people who will become something of themselves, and are striving to be free from government welfare or food stamps. If they need a little bit of help to get themselves going, that’s fine. Although, I know the government can do more to weed out those that leech the system.

    You’ve made a good point, though, and I cannot refute. The best I can do is my above statement.

  • thetreyman

    the flaw in your thinking is in your first sentence.”…the government, and its people…”. we do not belong to the government, the government belongs to the people. at least that is how it is supposed to work. we need to get back to that.

  • Maxwell

    I’ll agree with you on that. Washington is filled with too many politicians who prefer to use and manipulate the people rather than serve them.

  • Damien Johnson

    Seems like manicures would be a non-essential. Well, I can get if you are trying to look nice for a job interview but still. And apparently they need phones too…. if they get phones, they shouldn’t be phones any better than the one I had when I was 12-thick, monochrome screens, and the only games on it are solitaire and snake, and no internet.

  • Damien Johnson

    Seems like manicures would be a non-essential. Well, I can get if you are trying to look nice for a job interview but still. And apparently they need phones too…. if they get phones, they shouldn’t be phones any better than the one I had when I was 12-thick, monochrome screens, and the only games on it are solitaire and snake, and no internet.