Must see: Colion Noir fires back at Funny or Die’s ‘Black NRA’ parody

As Twitchy reported yesterday, the folks at “Funny or Die” (members of the president’s Entertainment Advisory Council, natch) released a new video in which pasty white “NRA spokesperson” Sarah Silverman leads the call for the formation of a black NRA. Anyone who knows the real NRA knows there’s no need for such a thing. Color plays no part in defending the Second Amendment.

It didn’t take long for real NRA spokeman Colion Noir to fire back at Funny or Die, and imagine this: it didn’t take snark or a staff of writers to set Silverman straight.

  • NRPax

    That kind of cluebatting should be endorsed by Louisville Slugger.

  • dwok

    It’s the same old schtick with the left…..”anything that’s pro-liberty is anti-minority”.

    Thanks Mr. Noir.

    • Elaine

      I hope someone sent the video to her twitter account so she could watch it?

      • trixiewoobeans

        After that “trip to the woodshed,” she won’t be able to show her face in public for a good, long time, if she has any brain and a morsel of pride that is.

        • Deborah Hallsted

          Sorry, but she has no shame. No sense of humor, either…or taste for that matter

      • aztectrumpet

        If funny or die has a twitter, someone should send it there too

  • JeffWRidge

    If the far-left types like Silverman had their way, no one would be allowed to have guns. Not for self-defense, not for hunting, not for sport shooting, not for anything. They would disarm us all, and leave us at the mercy of criminals.

    No matter how much they try to make it a race issue, or safety issue, or any other excuse they use, it is still about control; their desire to control us, the people. Blacks, whites, and people of all ethnicities need to fight for our rights and freedoms.

    Without the right to bear arms none of our other freedoms are safe.

    • NRPax

      They have a shared delusion that if we just get rid of guns, everyone will get along and we’ll be safer.

      • JeffWRidge

        It’s like the old nuclear disarmament crowd. They were convinced that if the U.S. just gave up all her nukes that the Soviets would do the same. It never occurs to them that once a person, or nation, is disarmed that the person/nation is at the mercy of their enemies.

        Basically, they live in a fantasy world.

      • http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mo1wzFiu1qbubzqo1_400.gif Cleatus Van Damne ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        There are two kinds of leftists- those that truly (and naively) believe that getting rid of guns will make everybody safer, and those who push that meme in order to advance their real agenda- disarming the population in order to remove the People’s last line of defense against an overreaching, tyrannical government.

    • dwok

      They laugh at us but do not realize that those of us who hold fast to our founding principles are those that will be able to help protect their sorry asses when that time arrives.

      Whether I protect them or not (as we’ve seen with the current state of our pop culture country) will be on a case by case basis.

      • WhoMeToo

        As far as I’m concerned… They’re on their own.

    • nickdqwk

      Not only the mercy of criminals (though it is difficult to make a distinction), but also the mercy of the Government (Tyranny).

    • http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mo1wzFiu1qbubzqo1_400.gif Cleatus Van Damne ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      You are 100% correct. The most important purpose of the Second Amendment is to guarantee they can never take away our last line of defense against an overreaching, tyrannical government

      • IBXNJ

        He is right on the money!!!

    • David Johnson

      No the rich liberals would still have their Armed Bodyguards because they believe their special & Above Normal People

  • Smokey Behr

    Standing by for the “Uncle Tom”, “House N-Word” and “Oreo” comments from the Left.

    • Elaine

      Done, done, and done!

    • dwok

      I doubt one of those chicken-sh!t libs would dare say that to his face.

      • therealguyfaux

        ‘Coz he’s one of those “young black men,” y’know– the ones they’ve heard tell about, but rarely encounter in their own little limo-liberal world, except as the driver of the car which picks up his mother, the cleaning woman– or else, as a perp (if we’re lucky enough). Y’know, “the ones that are instilling fear into the hearts of all Americans” (so think the Libs), which fear the Libs would rather exploit than address; Libs who are always ready to say THIS, every time a young black man walks by, minding his own damn business: “No! Don’t attack me, please! I’m a good guy! Attack those nasty Conservative people!” One of those young black men– or so they fear.

  • http://example.com/ SwiperTheFox

    It’s a matter of objective fact that the NRA was founded by ex-Civil War veterans who fought and died among black Americans– a multi-racial group that fought against the Confederacy.

    This needs to be rubbed in the noses of everyone that denies it.

  • http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mo1wzFiu1qbubzqo1_400.gif Cleatus Van Damne ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Very well said, Mr. Noir.
    The left see people as tools with which to socially engineer society to fit their world view. They see skin color as a weapon.

  • Jeff

    Lmao

  • http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mo1wzFiu1qbubzqo1_400.gif Cleatus Van Damne ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    The progressives deep down do not believe black people are intelligent enough or capable enough to function in society. That is why they will exploit them for political gain as Ms. Silverman and company have.
    Their lack of respect for the black community is also the reason they incessantly try to convince them that without their government programs they cannot survive.
    Now the left are doing the same thing with the Latino population.

    • therealguyfaux

      The progressives deep down do not believe PEOPLE are intelligent enough, period, end of paragraph. Except themselves, of course.

      • http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mo1wzFiu1qbubzqo1_400.gif Cleatus Van Damne ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        I think you’re right about that. They see people only as tools with which to socially engineer society to fit their world view. And votes.

    • Deborah Hallsted

      I believe you are right. It is an under-handed insidious attitude, furthered by pop/rap culture. Of course it’s expected that they go to jail again, of course they got in trouble with drugs, naturally they have kids and crazy baby mamas. What else could you expect? They are hounded and troubled and persecuted. Even when they are a billionaire just trying to by a nice purse. Even Jay-Z, with only half a billion dollars in his pocket has “99 Problems- But (at least) A B*tch Ain’t One”.

  • waterytart

    I love Mr. Noir, and sadly, folks like him are who the left loves to hate. Sarah Silverman should be less concerned with the “Black NRA” and more concerned that the pic with this tweet makes her look like the long, lost daughter of Henry Waxman.

  • Repubtallygirl

    I heart Mr. Colion Noir!

  • Perso Nasplit

    wow! that was awesome! he hit the nail on the head. the race-baiters try and attach race to everything in order to win. same with sexism. i really fear for this country if these people(you know the ones im talking about(liberals)) are allowed to keep doing this.

  • http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mo1wzFiu1qbubzqo1_400.gif Cleatus Van Damne ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    The most important purpose for the Second Amendment is to guarantee our right to protect ourselves not only from each other, but if necessary, from the tyranny of government.
    A well regulated militia means us, the People. All of us, white, black, Asian, Hispanic, ALL OF US. A well armed, well trained society that the government has a healthy fear of and respect for. This secures liberty, and protects all of our other rights.
    That is our birth right upon which SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

  • Baba Ghanoush

    The guy just gets it. He is a breath of fresh air.

  • Guest

    Love this guy. More common sense and wit than the combined efforts of the putzes in the video he responded to.

  • Damien Johnson

    Man, I discovered Colion Noir earlier this year. That is my DUDE right there.

    While we’re on the “racism” topic; a charter school in Tulsa is catching flack because they told a black girl her hair wasn’t allowed in school. They’re getting called racist for the hair policy. Was the policy a little overzealous? Maybe. Racist? Absolutely not.

    Here’s the kicker; the people that run the school are black themselves.

    • http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mo1wzFiu1qbubzqo1_400.gif Cleatus Van Damne ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      There’s an article on the Daily Caller about that, guess who is crying racism? Mellissa Harris-Perry, one of the most disgusting, racist, collectivist anti-American Succubuses (or is it Succubi?) on the planet. She is gross. That vile woman would be of greater use to society if she were pig food.

      • Damien Johnson

        I’m convinced that woman is a demon. I mean seriously, look at the prices on the screen. “Subtle” mark of the beast in there. She’s just a hyphenated bitch.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-29UwBu0W5o

        • http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1mo1wzFiu1qbubzqo1_400.gif Cleatus Van Damne ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          Ugh. She is gross.
          People like her are proof that God exists, because if Satan (from whom she is spawned) exists, so too must God.

    • therealguyfaux

      The young girl in question wears “dreads”– they think that somehow, Caribbeans don’t think they themselves are black, because they don’t want to act like American blacks; “You can’t wear ‘dreads’– that would make it look like black people are as diverse as any other ethnic group– and we can’t have any of THAT!”

    • Deborah Hallsted

      OK, what was the deal with her hair? They should know how hard it is to deal with that hair type. Even mixed kids have tons of problems with it, like my grandchildren.

      • Damien Johnson

        I don’t know. I mean, I disagreed with the policy, but I also still feel like calling it racist was going overboard. Just because certain rules may only apply to a certain group of people, doesn’t automatically make something racist or sexist or whatever. I agree though-they should know better about that girl’s hair type.

        • Deborah Hallsted

          I think you’re right if you’re saying you’re not comfortable with how fast we jump to racist accusations these days, which was exactly what I feared the most when I researched Barry in ’08. Felt his policies and actions would be so dire, that people would naturally take sides..and that’s whats happened, of course. To support your point, I bet they would have done the same if she were a white girl with dreads, and there are different styles, right? Damn we live in a difficult age.

          • Damien Johnson

            Yes, I believe they would’ve been told too had they been white. People like to call something racist or sexist just because a rule may apply to one group, but it just doesn’t work that way. It’s not sexist to tell girls they can wear either pants or a skirt, and boys can only wear pants to school.

          • Damien Johnson

            Yes, I believe they would’ve been told too had they been white. People like to call something racist or sexist just because a rule may apply to one group, but it just doesn’t work that way. It’s not sexist to tell girls they can wear either pants or a skirt, and boys can only wear pants to school.

  • Maddy Ferguson

    And Colin Noir simply ruins her for it – EPIC!

  • bullwink

    DUDE….YOU ARE MY NEW HERO!

  • 0bamabacca

    Colion Noir is racist because he spoke out against people who were talking about black people.

  • Doc

    Smoke em if you got em, and he did. LMFAO

  • LinTaylor

    I know you’re not supposed to say stuff like “He sure is well-spoken and eloquent” because it’s ra~acist…but frankly, I WISH I was as good a speaker as Mr. Noir.

    • therealguyfaux

      Well, Joe Biden would say that sort of thing, wouldn’t he, if he agreed with Mr Noir.

      I mean, he did say something like that about Obama. Wrong on the facts– Obama isn’t all that well-spoken/eloquent without his trusty teleprompter– but not racist, except for oh, I don’t know, his implying that Obama was somehow exceptional?

    • Deborah Hallsted

      I wish our POTUS was.

  • Publius3

    Yes!! Clear and concise Mr. Noir. Thanks

  • Holly Crutchfield Echols

    Pure awesome!

  • Mickey O’Brien

    Nailed it.

  • 0bamabacca

    We have to give Sarah Silverman the benefit of the doubt, because she has always presented herself as an elegant, classy Lady.

    • Stephen L. Hall

      Now, that was funnier than Sarah Silverman has ever been.

  • Stephen L. Hall

    Seen his videos before . . . never really seen him this angry, and justifiably so.

  • Guest

    That video was outstanding! @MrColionNoir has a new subscriber.

  • $35072932

    This shows the abject ignorance of those on the left – part of the reason for early gun control in the states was to stop certain minorities from exercising their Commonsense Civil Right of self-preservation from the KKK.

    As usual the left deliberately has things bass ackwards…

  • http://www.IKnowbo.com/ Slam1263

    After walking into that maelstrom, I’m sure Ms. Silverman will be calling for Claymore control.

  • Robert Betts

    Awesome.

  • RaginNDN

    Bravo! Mr Colion Noir.

  • Ralph_Gizzip

    The 2nd Amendment wasn’t put in place so Americans could protect themselves from each other. It was put in place so Americans could protect themselves from the Government.

  • Demoivre

    Sarah Silverman status:

    [ ] TOLD

    [X] EFFIN’ TOLD
    [X] ERIC TOLDER
    [X] BATMAN: THE BRAVE AND THE TOLD
    [X] TOLD WAR
    [x] Died of told age
    [x] TOLDASAURUS REX
    [x] The Told and the Beautiful
    [x] 24 carat told
    [x] Touched by King Midas and turned into told
    [x] Told by Mr.Tolder of the told lands
    [x] Cash4Told.com
    [x] No Country for Told Men
    [x] Gary Toldman
    [x] Austin Powers: ToldMember
    [x] Told Spice | Deodorant, Antiperspirant & Other Man Fresheners

  • objectivefactsmatter

    “Blacks” don’t need leftists speaking for them as a group of defenseless victims? That news is going to hurt the DP.

  • obloodyhell

    I cannot say how others should vote, but I wholeheartedly support the death penalty.

    For Silverman, of course.

  • JGinzo

    Simple and to the point. But unfortunately the people you are preaching to won’t watch it. You’re not “their kind” of black guy. If you were white they would dismiss you as a racist.

  • Truth Gun

    Smart kid. He has a big future.

    Btw, Silverman does need to form a new NRA: Nappy Rug Affliction. You see her recent movie where she did full frontal? Er..

  • RW Smith

    Who the hell is Sarah Silverman?

  • RW Smith

    Who the heck is Sarah Silverman?

  • sandyaz

    This coming from the woman who made a video humping her dog.

  • bill222

    this guy is an oreo.

    • Jeff Coil

      And you are a racist pig

      • bill222

        do you know the meaning of racism . Oreo mean Black on the outside, white on the inside. He love the NRA money.

        • trixiewoobeans

          FYI – I’ve been following Noir for quite awhile, well before the NRA gig. And it’s okay for basketball, baseball, football, singing and acting entertainers to “love the money,” but not him? Racist and hypocrite you are, but not Noir.

    • Jeff Coil

      And you are a racist pig

    • Jeremy

      go be racist somewhere else jerk.

      • bill222

        do you know the meaning of racism.

        • Jeff Coil

          You apparently don’t.

    • MarcusFenix

      Fail troll is fail.

      • bill222

        its true he sold his soul for money.

        • MarcusFenix

          Of course, this claim can be backed up with some facts? Or do “oreo’s” not require facts, because your comment stands on its own merit? Or do you just have a base dislike for people of color who are intelligent and articulate?

          • bill222

            I like michael steele he is am honest black conservative. hermain cain will say anything stupid to make money. Foxnews use him as a pawn. The worst of them is david webb, foxnews use him as their black friend.

          • MarcusFenix

            Because all of those people have something to do with Noir being an “oreo”. So how did Noir “sell his soul”? For what price?

            As an aside…being black isn’t a requirement for people saying (or doing) just about anything for money. The entire 2 party system is filled with that. Color really has nothing to do with it.

  • Garry Baier

    I may be just a dumb very old white boy, but it does my heart good to hear this young man stand up and talk some “common sense”, which is an ideal that seems to be almost dead in this country. Stand strong young man. I’d vote for you for the U.S. congress.

  • Garry Baier

    BEWARE! You may now be called a “race trader” or an Uncle Tom by the left liberal media who are a bunch of overeducated idiots.

  • Dane Gunderson

    So Silverman refuses to remember that Democrats wrote the first Gun Control Laws to disarm their ex-slaves?

  • radicallyalyssa

    I remember watching his videos once before, but I didn’t realize he was such an icon to the modern conservative movement. That makes me really happy and excited for our future. He’s the type of person we need for our side – smart, young, good looking people that know the facts and deliver them well! And snap, is he good looking!

  • logicrules

    The inevitable product of the blood-won princips of bravery are the feather-honed likes of Silverman. Unchallenged by life as it was, ignorant of what challenged life might be, the poisened barb is but a myth… evil but a plot device.

    Only in our paradise might a Silverman call it hell.

  • logicrules

    The inevitable product of the blood-won princips of bravery are the feather-honed likes of Silverman. Unchallenged by life as it was, ignorant of what challenged life might be, the poisened barb is but a myth… evil but a plot device.

    Only in our paradise might a Silverman call it hell.

  • Jeremy

    Great video and Silverman is an unfunny hag anyway.

  • MarcusFenix

    I’ve been a fan of Noir for a little while. I’m glad to see him telling these race-hustlers where to go, and how to get there.

  • EDUCATEDPATRIOT

    As usual, Mr. Noir crushes it. Sadly, he will be thrown into a pile by the left that contains Alan West, Herman Cain, and Ben Carson.

  • $9898556

    Dayum!! Go play in traffic.

    First thing that came to my mind when I saw the original video was that Silverman doesn’t think law abiding blacks should be allowed to own guns. Inherent racism right there.

  • https://twitter.com/UnicornOfMayhem Hi This Is My Username

    Daaaaamn, nailed it. Thank you, Mr. Noir.

  • Kevin Scott

    Wow. Nothing need be added to that eloquent monologue of truth. Thumbs waaaaaay up!

  • ntxokie

    TARGET! Cease fire. Next!

  • bicentennialguy

    Good for him. Loooooooooove it.

  • Bruce Livingston

    Is “Funny or Die” the place where irrelevant comics go to die? Anyway, spot on video, even though I thought my headphones were broken cause sound was coming out online one side, lol.

  • Texan357

    This guy’s a genius.

  • David Johnson

    Hell even Jimmy Kimmel figured out she wasn’t funny or probably any good in bed!

  • patteel

    Truth

  • Damien Johnson

    I just watched the video. I’m surprised Sarah is getting all the flack and not all the dipsh*ts that were with her.

  • CasualMeyhem

    Beautiful!

  • Deborah Hallsted

    Brilliant, I loved it. Handed their supercilious condescending bigotry right back at ’em.

  • PatriotRG

    this guy speaks the total truth! he can see lib/dem racism and hypocrisy straight away.

  • PatriotRG

    this guy speaks the total truth! he can see lib/dem racism and hypocrisy straight away.

  • bill222

    I have nothing against black conservatives but they are being used by white republican . They don’t care about their communities. I like michael steele , he is a conservative and care for his fellows black brothers and sisters.

  • MarcusFenix

    I somehow doubt that Noir is the kind of person who is being used by anyone, white or otherwise. Just looks like something you’re saying, based on the fact he’s black. That, sir, is racist.

  • Jeff Coil

    How are they being “used”? What makes you thing they “don’t care about their communities”? Your attitude (calling blacks conservatives/republicans/NRA “oreo’s”) is the highest form of racism

  • bill222

    most of NRA members are whites. Noir is being used to dismiss the stereotype of regular NRA members

  • MarcusFenix

    So here, in this statement, one could believe you’re saying this is a good thing…which it would be. Dismissing an ignorant stereotype is inherently positive.

    Yet you’ve called him an oreo, and made other disparaging remarks about him. So which is it? Is he just a prop, or is there merit in what he’s saying?

  • bill222

    am black. Did you watch the zimmerman coverage on foxnews. They use david web, allen west to bash blacks. For them racism doesn’t exist.

  • bill222

    you think NRA want blacks to be armed with guns. Crime is associate with black in the white imaginary .They don’t care about blacks but they will gladly use them as props.

  • MarcusFenix

    There we go…I knew I could get the racist out of you…just took you a few tries to really get it in there.

    As a white male, when I think of crime…I think of criminals. Their color is of no relevance in such broad distinctions. If we were having a conversation about racial violence, then perhaps that would be of merit. But crime is not limited to a single color.

    Likewise, when I think about ownership of guns in the U.S. and those who do so legally, their color is still not of importance. If you’re projecting your own racist view about such things, that’s one thing. Your idea does not line up with other, rational points of view. Upon review, the NRA application doesn’t ask you for your racial status, either. For a group that apparently cares so much about it, as you say….there’s no evidence to support that argument.

    Since you’re inserting what *I* think…I’ll correct it for you. *I* think that the NRA could give a rats’ behind about your racial status. *I* think that the only people who are still focused on race, in this issue, are idiot racists with nothing better to do than focus on irrelevant, baseless intellectual garbage, rather than approach the issue from a logical perspective. *I* think that people like you, Silverman, and anyone else who thinks race matters in this case are, for the lack of a better term…morons.

    Looks like the only one who is seeing things as a matter of race is you, buddy. Good luck with that.

  • bill222

    foxnews and conservative media keep talking about the inner city crimes as reason for more guns. Trayvon martin was portray as a thug criminal. Republicans dismiss race talk , they think ending slavery was the end of racism .

  • MarcusFenix

    So much misdirection, all in one convenient location!

    The discussion that pundits, and conservatives, have about guns in inner cities is the fact that the thugs with the guns have them illegally. When libs talk about tighter gun control laws, they seem to gloss over the fact that it’s people who are -already- skirting the law and who possess weapons illegally which are the problem. Making laws tougher on citizens who are already abiding what’s on the books changes nothing about inner city gang violence or others who illegally possess a gun. How about fixing that first, before going after the people who are, by and large, already in compliance?

    Martin, by definition, was in fact a thug. Those cute little pictures of him as a child were not the accurate representation of him at the time of his unfortunate death. Even a cursory examination of events before this point show he was already into drugs, theft, (very likely) breaking and entering, and illegal possession of a firearm. What more would you need? If he were another color, and were still involved with those things, he’d still be a thug. His color is, again, independent of those items.

    We dismiss racial talk, when it’s used as a means to bait a conversation, or to create a situation where someone is called a racist based on ambiguous or faulty logic. People like Sharpton, Jackson, and others just like them are quick to play the race card, because it’s a way to try and polarize people who disagree. It’s not intellectually honest, and they know it….but they, like you, do so because it fits an agenda.

  • bill222

    if white kid use drugs its okay but black kid he is a thug. Conservatives media try to find any little details in dead kid to portray him as a thug. They have this image of what black kids as thug thief rapers . Conservative media deny any racism, but the zimmerman trial prove that racism exist . Republican party for years use the southern strategy to scare white folks.

  • MarcusFenix

    I see that facts and rational discourse aren’t among your stronger skills. Might want to see about fixing that, at some point.

    By what standard is it OK for white people to use drugs, as opposed to blacks (or anyone else for that matter)? That’s idiotic, by almost any standard. More racial projection from you on this, again.

    To make this easy…..the color of a person’s skin does -not- make them a thug, by default. Their ***actions*** are what causes that label to be ascribed to them. Martin, as a case in point, was a thug. His color had nothing to do with it. However…

    He was, in fact, a thief.
    He was, in fact, previously in possession of an illegal gun.
    He was, in fact, using illegal drugs.

    The image we have of Martin is because of the actual images we have OF Martin…from his own social media pages. I don’t need a PhD in sociology to know he was a thug, based on the available material. His actions speak for themselves.

    Zimmerman’s trial proved racism in what way? A black kid smashed a hispanic guy’s head into the pavement. The kid was shot. Explain racism there?

    It’s interesting that Democrats are the ones who, for decades, preserved institutionalized segregation. It was Democrats who started the KKK. It was Democrats who railed against anti-lynching laws…the President, at the time, in fact, was against such legislation It was Democrats who have done these things, and yet….here you are pointing to Republicans as “scaring white folks”. That’s almost laughable.

    Lincoln…who officially ended slavery…was a Republican. It was R’s who fought to get anti-lynching laws in place, to protect black people. It was R’s who advocated for the dismantling of segregation on multiple fronts.

    History books are your friend.

  • bill222

    Before 1964 the south was democratic territory then johnson signed the civil right bill with help of many northerner republicans . White southerners felt betrayed , from 1968 until now they vote republican. Why reagan use in his speech states right when he talk to a southern crowd ? Do you remember the welfare queen . The republican of 1960 is way different of the the republican of ted cruz and louie golmerth. All the martin stuff are made up by the right wing media to portray him as a thug to follow this narrative as all blacks are thugs.
    ”The best known example of this is the love some older conservatives have for “states’ rights.” When segregation
    became socially unacceptable, many old pro-segregationists began
    instead calling for “states’ rights”, meaning of course the right of the
    individual states to segregate and discriminate (or, in the pre-Civil War American South, enforce slavery). .” fom http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_politics
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaW92c2hqNs

  • MarcusFenix

    So, in order to try and prove a point…you link The Ed Show, with Wilkerson (and yes…I’ve actually met that man, he’s kind of crazy in the bad way)….and rationalwiki, which is known to be anything but rational. Rationalwiki is a massive hub of some of the most left leaning, liberal political garbage with more of a slant towards satire or “just doing things for the lulz”. It’s not something you should be citing as proof of anything other than some sad people on the internet.

    sorry, just nothing there. The opinions of 2 guys on a tv show, both of whom are regularly noted for being downright crazy….it’s not really proof. Its just an incredibly small subset of people on which you’re projecting (or drawing) your very erroneous conclusions. I hate having to almost dismiss your items out of hand, but really….there’s just nothing of substance here.

    This is especially sad and true since you’re unable to refute anything else I’ve said. *This* is your retort? No sir. Just stop right there.

    This has been fun, but you’re clearly still a racist. You’re still the only one calling it in that manner. It’s clear there’s no rational discourse to be had here. You started off your posts by calling a person of color an “oreo”, then try to make it about everyone -else- being racist. When it’s pointed out that you’re the the one participating in racist terminology and thought, you blame someone else.

    Own up to your own words, man. We’re done. Enjoy your backwards thinking and rationalwiki entries. *facepalm*

  • bill222

    I showed you the racism in republican party.

  • MarcusFenix

    You clearly demonstrated your own latent racism, while using Big Ed and a leftist website to back your own agenda. You hardly offered anything that’s within the realm of concrete proof.

    However, every major history text on the things I’ve published justifies my comments. Again, even a cursory examination of history would back up my claims.

    If you want to be a racist, and a liberal…that’s fine. Those things work together well. But this is not an argument you’re capable of keeping up on, much less gaining traction. This discussion was over quite some time ago.

  • bill222

    You use the old republican party as an example . If you know your history , from 1968 the south went republican because republicans use hate to conquer. Do you know that in 1960 Vermont was solidly republican and Alabama was solidly democrat. Most republican in 1960 were moderate to liberals. Johnson said “We have lost the South for a generation”. Republican party was built on resentment and hate. Oreo has two meanings :

    1- ”A racist slur and schoolyard name based on
    racist stereotypes wrongly assuming that intelligence, articulateness, dapperness, and manners are traits of whites and not blacks. Therefore, a black who possesses these traits is an oreo, white on the inside and black on the outside. A corollary slur is banana, yellow (Asian) on the outside and white on the inside.” urbandictionar

    2- ”Term for African Americans that the black communities is generally offended with for betraying their roots usually for dating caucasion girls, dressing too white, talking too white, etc. The term is branded ” urbandictionar
    OREO since they are “Black on the outside, White on the inside”” urbandictionar
    I used the second one

    Most black conservatives betrayed their roots, community to please the white establishment .

  • MarcusFenix

    “you project but smart attack line”

    Use proper Engrish….yes…Engrish….prease.

    Again, a poorly worded, poorly structured, and flawed analysis. The Republican party in the 60’s accepted new members who deviated from Democratic policies of the past. That is why the numbers and winds shifted…because people finally were given a wake up call and decided that being a bunch of racists a$$hats was a bad idea. It was a positive movement. You just seem to have skewed that specific idea in favor of a much more insane argument. The Republican party was built on people who put hatred aside to work towards a common good. It’s nice you acknowledge the event, but sad you misrepresent its meaning.

    And then….right underneath of your excellent history re-do….you then make the case that because “oreo” has two meanings, that it must certainly be ok to use! Neither of the definitions remove the word from being in the offensive catagory….i mean, you’re linking the urbandictionary.com entry, for crying out loud. You literally, in the first paragraph, define what you’re saying is racist….and then confirm it’s racist with the second. I mean, I appreciate you making the argument -for- me…but it was completely unnecessary.

    The only person here who is guilty of racism……is you. Only you. Just you.

    Black people, who shun street life and want better for themselves are bad? Black people who seek higher education, and wish to distance themselves from the ghetto life and mentality are to be made fun of because of this? Are you out of your mind? You should be happy that people wish to do better than what they may have come from….that’s not a racial trait,but a human one. the fact that you have to ascribe racial issues because blacks choose not to represent the thuggish stereotype is more telling about your own latent racism than it does anything else.

  • bill222

    ”The Republican party in the 60’s accepted new members who deviated from
    Democratic policies of the past. That is why the numbers and winds
    shifted…because people finally were given a wake up call and decided
    that being a bunch of racists a$$hats was a bad idea. It was a positive
    movement.” your statement make no sense.

    Read this article :

    http://www.forwardprogressives.com/the-truth-about-republican-racism-and-the-southern-strategy/

  • MarcusFenix

    Then I’ll dumb it down for you, since standard english is apparently your 4th language.

    Democrats who supported racist policies saw the light, and finally figured out racism was bad. Changed parties. Simple as that. They didn’t -form- the Republican party as a whole…they simply joined the people who were already progressive, for their time. It’s really not that hard to understand. You just misrepresent the context.

    Yes, please link more conspiracy theory/leftist nutjub/unverifiable websites that are anything but neutral and factually correct to support your position. That’s a way to win an argument. I’m sure you’ve got some Media Matters, Think Progress, and other articles which somehow justify your position.

    Sadly, you likely don’t even realize that your original position in all of this was your own racist comment…which you then promptly avoid from dealing with, then call everyone else racists, make racists comments about black people who -dare- not stick to some deranged ghetto stereotype, and use these ridiculous and factually inaccurate retorts as some sort of proof, when it’s not.

    Just say it outloud, that you’re a racist. You already admitted above that using the word “oreo” was racist….you even used two different means of explanation and STILL showed yourself as racist. You’re doing the work for me.

    When you can get to a point where you admit that it’s you that cares about race and color, where the rest of us are welcoming of all people…then you’ll win.

    Until then…you’re just not worth discussing this any farther with…I won this argument a long time ago. Good day, and God bless. :)

  • bill222

    ”Democrats who supported racist policies saw the light, and finally figured out racism was bad. Changed parties” you are so funny and delusional. Did you get those information out of your ass.
    You are confusing insult with racism .
    ”Term for African Americans that the black communities is generally offended with for betraying their roots usually for dating caucasion girls, dressing too white, talking too white, etc. The term is branded
    ” urbandictionar

  • MarcusFenix

    No…you just simply can’t equate that something that insulting is simultaneously racist. It’s not that hard to understand, if you’ve got an iq over, say….75.

    I have no need to create random information….but you wouldn’t find actual history or decent context on the sites you linked. You’re using urbandictionary.com as a freaking “resource”. You’re pointing out a direct example of racism, even using the terms of it yourself….and yet, you’re so blind to the very basic truth in front of you. There’s no amount of information that one could present that would satisfy your twisted view of things. Was Martin Luther King Jr. also an “oreo”? He was intelligent, articulate, and certainly didn’t subscribe to ghetto stereotypes. Go ahead…call him, or other black people who happen to have those same traits an “oreo”….then walk your statements back about a half of a mile to get away from the fact they are inherently racist and derogatory. You can’t, because to anyone with said IQ over 75 and a basic grasp of the English language, they are very much of both. The term itself is inherently offensive *and* racist. What part of this do you not comprehend?

    You’re a racist. You’re a joke. A sad, unfunny, racist joke. Every post you drop here only reinforces that further.

    We’re done here. You really have no other argument to make. Hell, you can’t even type out your own posts past something one would expect from a first grader. I’m convinced you don’t even have a handle on what’s being said. So crawl back to whatever racist craphole you crawled out of and take your ignorance elsewhere.

  • bill222

    First of all I didn’t said being an articulate black person is an Oreo or he is acting white. I said that a black person who ignore the suffering of his community, bashing his brother and sister to make money is a sellout or an oreo. Its a big difference, Michael Steel is an honest black republican, he isn’t afraid to call out his party and defend his black brothers and sisters. You said Democrats who supported racist policies saw the light, and finally figured out racism was bad. Changed parties” this quote is so dumb and dishonest . Its true English isn’t my first language but I know more about politics and history than you. I know more languages than you. If you cant admit that the republican party use resentment and hate to win elections or use dog whistle so my friend you are just a liar or coward.

  • MarcusFenix

    No matter how you phrase it, calling a person an “oreo” is still both offensive and racially motivated. It’s interesting to watch you dance around that, over and over…and yet it still defines everything you say here.

    You claim to know history and politics, yet you had spewed all of that garbage out before. You might want to brush up on both before coming here. You might want to use things that are not rationalwiki to justify your points. You are aware that their own website description says that its “for more lulz” and for something they call a “lollercoaster”, right? That it’s not a site that’s taken seriously by….well, anyone. It was a site designed by people who were troublemakers on another site, and were banned for causing trouble. They took the same idiocy they put out before, and just made a site. It’s not a credible source of anything other than abject stupidity. Outside of incredibly liberal wingnuts, they have zero credibility in the real world. Notice you had to use urbandictionary….not Websters. Notice you had to link Ed Schultz, a known member of the fringe left and taken seriously by about as many people that take rationalwiki seriously. His guest, that you use as proof, is likewise known to be…well, nothing. He’s not known for anything other than being…well, fringe.

    I’ve had nothing to lie about, and engaged you directly. I’ve cited easily found historical information that anyone who can use Google can find. You haven’t refuted a single thing I’ve said. Just saying you disagree isn’t a refutation or rebuttal. Never is, never will be.

    You still, to this point, can’t admit you’re just a cowardly racist. I don’t need to admit that the Republican party did things, which are only found in the abstract and indirect view of yourself, and people who are entirely incapable of being subjective. You’ve not, to this point, linked a single credible or factually worthy source. Your arguments have zero merit, and attempting to simply smear Republicans because it suits your agenda is entirely false. Are politicians capable of using those tactics? Sure. But last I checked, it was Democrats who were telling people Republicans were going to put them in chains, kill old people, take away their health care and medicine, take away their welfare, and so on. Notice who said those things…..Democrats. That’s on -you-.

    I don’t have to worry about what you’ve said…because calling me names is really all you have left to hurl at me. It’s weak, as is your argument.

  • bill222

    How can I have a serious discussion with someone who said this : ”Democrats who supported racist policies saw the light, and finally figured out racism was bad. Changed parties” its absurd. Okay checks those links :

    This video of lee atwater , listen to the master:

    http://www.thenation.com/article/170841/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy#axzz2ehosE52o
    This are famous dog whistles :
    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/top-five-racist-republican-dog-whistles

  • MarcusFenix

    You lost the ability to have a serious discussion the moment you said the word “oreo”.

    Congratulations. Lee Atwater was a piece of crap. That’s actually the only thing you’ve said so far that even was anywhere close to reality. There were still Dem’s who came over, as you yourself even referenced previously…and then magically, that didnt happen either, according to you. Revisionist history is not a good place to state facts.

    You’re still linking the most leftist items you can find though. The Nation self describes as “The flagship of the Left”. Could you find just a single neutral thing to look at? New Statesmen? Could relabel it “HuffPo 2.0” and it wouldn’t look any different.

    Atwater was a piece of crap. I don’t know anyone who agreed with his actions. As it was, people who were like Atwater were drummed out a long time ago. By democrat standards of what was a long time ago (read: Benghazi)….this stuff is ancient history. You still, however, cannot refute a single thing I’ve said. Even if i were to concede your point about Atwater, there still isn’t a single thing I’ve said you have been able to refute. Where does that leave you?

    Within the last 7 days, however, Democrats have told people we’re going to put them back in chains. Do you believe that’s accurate, as describing that as fearmongering?

    I’m still just wondering why it is you are trying to say other people are racist, while using racist language to describe other people….while being a part of the party who created institutionalized racism from the start, and so on. If Atwater is all you have….then you’ve still lost this a long time ago, my very racist (term used VERY loosely) friend.

  • bill222

    Name me a neutral media . Before 1965 the democrat owned the south and kkk were democrats. The south now is the base of the republican party. Check what former chairman of RNC michael steel said :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx7WqNRlcgU

  • MarcusFenix

    Look, it’s MSNBC. That’s neutral, right? And they’d never lie about something or edit things to make one thing sound like another, because that’s never happened?

    I don’t know, genius….how about a freaking encyclopedia entry. Those are online too now, you know? Not -wikipedia-….an actual encyclopedia. How about college level texts? How about actual historical websites, with context and content specific to the issue? Do you need help with those, because I don’t know how well Dem’s are versed in using actual texts containing information to make a point. I’ve been hard pressed to see them do it.

    Hell, I’d settle for something that even pretends it’s not as far left as west is from east, for anything of a source. If you try really hard, then maybe you can find something outside of the liberal talking points to help you.

    Just because the South is the “base” of the party doesn’t automatically mean that suddenly, every person with racially insensitive ideas is part of our group. You *do* realize how ignorant that statement is on its face, yes?

    You’re still dodging everything I’ve said. We can keep this up for a REALLY long time, but the longer you do, the deeper in you go…and it changes nothing about your own racist view.

  • bill222

    Do you know a neutral media outlet or online. I show you what lee atwater said, what michael steele said. Lee atwater was the brain behind the southern strategy and the mentor of karl rove. Michael steele was chairman of RNC and admitted that the republicans were anti blacks . You without shame said :”Democrats who supported racist policies saw the light, and finally figured out racism was bad. Changed parties” either you are dishonest or forget the past. By the way MSNBC has a research team I don’t think breitbart or daily caller have research team. I give you one example when some right wings blogs keep saying obama is working with muslim brotherhood , where they bring their facts.

  • MarcusFenix

    LOL….so, you don’t know how to find an encyclopedia online? You don’t know how to search for historical documents (here’s a tip…try historically relevant places, like you know…the Smithsonian?)

    You really expect me to discuss something with you, when you can’t even find an encyclopedia. I’m almost willing to bet real money you haven’t picked up a book which didn’t fit in the Fiction section. Really? You *cannot* find an encyclopedia……online. Wow.

    Dishonest or forget….it’s a good thing there isn’t a third choice, which is “I have read the subject matter in some detail, and drew a different conclusion” as an answer, or we’d be in trouble…wait, no. That would be it.

    Giving credence to MSNBC’s “research” team, by comparison to other research anywhere, is like trying to compare an EZ-Bake Oven to the items one would find in Gordon Ramsey’s kitchen. By their own admission, they don’t even report breaking news anymore….they just parrot what everyone else is saying. How could you not be aware of such an obvious point.

    I’m just literally laughing out loud at you, at this point.

    Hey, how about any of those things I’ve mentioned like 7 times you couldn’t answer…mainly because it points to you as a racist, along with your party….how about those?

    While the remainder has nothing to do really with all of this….by extension, I’ll clue you in, since you don’t have one otherwise.

    If Obama helps the rebels in Syria….you know, the other people who are jackholes there…..it’s already estimated that up to 25% of the rebels are involved in either AQ or the Muslim Brotherhood….so yes, if he helps the rebel factions with Assad, he is directly helping members of the Muslim Brotherhood. I wonder why that seems unclear. Is it because they’re not ALL in the Brotherhood, which makes it seem incorrect to you? Like, all people in the South absolutely must be Republican racists because there were racists down there (who were democrats first, by your own admission)?

    Normally, I’d ask if you see the flaw in this line of thinking….but you keep droning on about it, so you obviously don’t. Your wanton desire to continually be pointed out as wrong….and very racist….is kind of self-destructive.

    So, in summation…when you can type “encyclopedia”…and i know it’s a big word for liberals, but try…..into Google and actually read some reference materials (pro tip….anything you’ve linked so far isn’t a reference materlal, BTW)……maybe we can talk about this rationally. A dictionary, that’s not urban, also might be of benefit.

    Honestly, I think I’m just going to stop here. It’s not in my nature to bash retarded people. We’re done.

    But one more thing, before I leave you in your intellectual squalor. This little gem, from HuffPo, so you KNOW it has to be totally legit….posted this last year.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/15/racism-in-high-school-im-_n_1208065.html

    Well, lookie there…someone who writes at HuffPo, who is black, believes that “oreo” is racially charged and offensive. That’s racist…just in case you missed it from those descriptive words. Will wonders never cease.

    It’s a 5 page article, by the way. I don’t expect you to actually read it, but…it’s from your own cess pool of information.

    enjoy, loser.

  • bill222

    Who give shit about encyclopedia its basic , nobody use that shit. I don’t need encyclopedia, lee atwater and michael steel with their own words tell you the truth about the republican party. If you compare daily caller or michhelle malkin to MSNBC you are a fool . Let me explain to you something , the muslim brotherhood is a religious party in Egypt . You said : ” ..it’s already estimated that up to 25% of the rebels are involved in
    either AQ or the Muslim Brotherhood….so yes, if he helps the rebel
    factions with Assad, he is directly helping members of the Muslim
    Brotherhood.” What the muslims brotherhood has to do with syria, are you dumb. I know the region very well,most of the rebels are Sunnis militants . What is happening in syria is a religious war between Sunni and Shiite.. I gave you facts and you dismiss them. you cant refute what atwater or micahel steele said. By the way where did you find 25 % , encyclopedia lol why not 40 % or 43 %.

  • trixiewoobeans

    Noir is highly intelligent and well-respected. YOU’RE saying he’s only useful as a “prop,” because he’s black, and has nothing else to offer presumably. I repeat, you’re the racist. I have no problem with Michael Steele.

  • MarcusFenix

    See, this is why you lost this discussion, right here….

    “Who give shit about encyclopedia its basic , nobody use that shit.”

    The base inability to read, or even type a coherent sentence. If you were to take even a small portion of time to actually research items, rather than listen to pundits….or even just educate yourself adequately…..that sentence would never have come out on a computer.

    You’re absolutely ridiculous.

    Steele, by the way…didn’t mean the party was anti-black. You are purposely moving that into the wrong context. Here you go, because it’s on MSNBC, you can accept it as a source:

    ““How does Reince Priebus reconcile his approach and his agreement with
    voter registration policies that many in the black community view as
    anti-black, racist, whatever the term happens to be,” Steele said.
    http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/03/20/steele-how-can-gop-reach-minorities-when-its-policies-are-seen-as-racist/

    Notice that he’s not saying the party is anti-black. He says thats the *perception* from people of color, and by extension, liberals. Nice way to twist the words around though. Means you’re full of crap.

    How about that MB number? Well, here ya go:

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/general-obamas-backing-wrong-syrian-rebels/

    From the article:

    Vallely believes there should be military action to take down the
    Bashar Assad regime, but he told WND the “shot-across-the-bow” approach
    floated by Obama would be pointless.

    “Obama’s really not a very brave person, so I don’t think he’ll take
    any brave action,” Vallely said. “He is known, even in the Middle East
    and Syria, for supporting the Muslim Brotherhood as he did in Egypt. His
    trend is toward supporting those elements also in Syria.”

    That’s one. If that’s not enough, then how about this?

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/11/expert-who-traveled-with-syrian-rebels-so-called-moderates-are-muslim-brotherhood-style-islamists/
    http://shoebat.com/2013/09/06/syrian-rebel-spokesman-is-muslim-brotherhood/
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/07/07/syrian-rebels-pound-besieged-shiite-towns-with-mortar-shells-heavy-weapons/

    Yeah, that one is fox news…but you’ve given me partisan garbage, so….have some FNC.

    Now to percentages…and who is fighting what.

    Kerry even admits it right here, AND it’s on HuffPo, for an added bonus!
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/10/kerry-syria-rebels_n_3901762.html

    The Blaze…again, you give me some libs, imma give you some cons….stating directly what you say isn’t happening.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/25/shock-video-allegedly-shows-al-qaeda-linked-terrorists-stopping-truck-drivers-on-side-of-road-then-executing-them-for-not-being-sunni-muslims/

  • MarcusFenix

    The 25% or so was reported by multiple outlets. Since you can’t find that in an encyclopedia, maybe you could google it?

    You claim to know that area well…it took me less than 5 minutes to find every bit of that information. If you failed about knowing something you claim to have intimate knowledge of…..then the rest of anything you’ve said (as I already knew) immediately becomes suspect.

    Your arguments are a joke. How much longer do you wish to drag out something in which you, and your racist ideology, lost in debate so long ago? It’s been days, and at least…you can discuss Atwater via rationalwiki. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

    You didn’t give me facts about syria. not a single one. Saying “oh, that’s not happening” isn’t a fact, dipstick. It’s your opinion. Just like the rest….with no facts to back it up.

  • MarcusFenix

    And just for added bonus…I’ll give you a head start.

    CBS is calling it at 15-20%. It’s even a video, so you don’t have to strain yourself with words. Kerry called it himself:

    “There are many rebel groups battling the Syrian dictatorship — some the
    U.S. has called freedom fighters, others it labels terrorists.
    Secretary of State John Kerry said “the bad guys” — as he calls them —
    make up only 15 to 20 percent of rebel forces.”

  • bill222

    1- You said I lost the debate . We were talking about the republican party being racist and how they use a racist strategy called the southern strategy to win back the white house. You said and I quote : :”Democrats who supported racist policies saw the light, and finally figured out racism was bad. Changed parties” Its the most absurd and stupid comment I ever heard. I showed you two links one of them is lee atwater video where he talk about how he use dog whistles to win the white vote. I showed you what michael steele said . Check this other link from washington post : http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/13/AR2005071302342.html

    Can you refute the argument that the republican part was racist . Your strategy to debate me is ignore my arguments and attack me for the oreo stuff or insult my English. Or attack my sources.

    2- Oreo, I was talking about blacks conservatives who betrayed their roots, bash their communities for money and fame. Best example is hermain cain and allen west. Oreo has many definitions, I didn’t say he is acting white because he know how to speak or how to dress. joe biden made that argument and its was racist.

    3- Syria. You made a stupid comment about the muslim brotherhood and shows you lack of knowledge about the middle east.You cant quantify how many extremists are among the rebels. 25% isn’t a specific number. Its range between 5-20%. Its like afganistan in the 80, many muslims fighters went there to help the afghan to fight the soviet among them was ben laden and Reagan helped him. is Reagan a terrorist ?

  • bill222

    This is the quote of john kerry : ” The Secretary said that about 25% of the rebel forces are “radical””

    1- He never spoke about the muslims brotherhood .

    ”Extremist groups make up between 15% and 25% of the rebels fighting Syrian leader Bashar Assad” from usa today

    So you cant quantify them.

    2- This quote isn’t fact : ”Democrats who supported racist policies saw the light, and finally figured out racism was bad. Changed parties”

  • MarcusFenix

    Even if I were to concede Atwater at all…which is fine, you can have it….It doesn’t change the following, that we’ve been talking about from the start.

    1. Oreo is, always has been, and always will be offensive and racially motivated. It doesn’t matter who said it or who started it. It’s racist, at it’s core. No amount of explanation you can provide changes that. Even HuffPo, the darling media outlet of the left, concurs. Give that up. You’re a racist, pure and simple. By your measure, if a black democrat had said this, I doubt you’d call him names. It’s amazing how low you will go to disparage someone else, because of their politics. You are a racist. You’re the only person here who cares about the race of Noir, or anyone else, as a caveat of discussion. Own it.

    2. You link items which are not neutral at all and expect them to be taken as absolute fact, take what they say out of context (Such as Steele’s comments, which you again misrepresent from the WaPo article), and then wonder why they’re dismissed? You’re not arguing fact. You’re arguing opinion, which is baseless and incorrect in their entirety. THAT is why they are dismissed. Had you come with a valid point otherwise, I could not have done so. Your sources are faulty…there is no other reason to attack them if they were valid. Have you ever actually debated a person face to face? It doesn’t seem so. Any debate is going to question sources, and rightly so. Why simply accept that what you’re saying is Gospel truth, when it’s not? It’s silly to do otherwise. You -should- question sources….question everything. Twisting words to suit your argument makes you look like a liar.

    3. I rail against your arguments because they are poorly constructed, English included. I mentioned looking up things in reference materials. Your response was “nobody uses those anymore”. That’s just plain ignorant. A wealth of history that you can’t be bothered to look up? That’s on you. Your lack of desire to learn isn’t anyone elses problem but yours. You

    3. I made a comment about Syria, backed it up with at least 5 links showing my argument had merit. Now who is just dismissing arguments without fact? I plainly demonstrated and articlulated that your discussion point was patently false, and yet..here you are saying “you dont know”. Apparently I do, and every single link I gave you (which clearly you never looked at) specifically verified my claims.

    Now you want to talk about Reagan? So, when you can’t actually win one point, you just move to the next? Can you not stay on topic? That situation has nothing to do with what you’re talking about in Syria right now. Even if you want to link them together, the situation was of a different tack, and is it’s own discussion. Stick to the topic or we can switch gears and talk about Reagan. Which is it?

    You did lose this argument, quite some time ago. You’ve managed to try and spin the oreo issue at least half a dozen times, but it still comes back to one simple set of conclusions.

    You, sir, are a racist. Your party, its politics, and its message is all about race. Own it, or get out.

  • MarcusFenix

    1. He didn’t have to…..did you even read ANY of the other links? Did you even bother to look? Every major news outlet that has covered this has acknowledged this fact. I’ve even linked it, multiple times from multiple places. Is your idea that “Kerry didn’t saaaaaay it, so….it’s not true”. Kerry didn’t say a lot of things, which are true. Multiple sources, verified multiple times. Take it or leave it.

    2. You don’t like that fact…and yet state directly at the top about how dems left the party and went to the R’s……..remember your comment about the dems “losing the south for a generation”. ITS YOUR OWN COMMENT.

    This is why you lost this a long time ago…and why I find you to only be a ridiculous child. Go back to your democratic talking points and see if they have something for people who need remedial reading classes.

  • bill222

    “losing the south for a generation” was lyndon johnson
    Google it.

    John kerry works for the state department. I think state department know more than you and me.
    Bye sore loser .

  • bill222

    “losing the south for a generation” was lyndon johnson
    Google it.

    John kerry works for the state department. I think state department know more than you and me.
    Bye sore loser .

  • MarcusFenix

    And yet, even though Johnson said it…it’s still valid. But thanks for pointing that out.

    Correct, Kerry is the SoS. Just because he doesn’t say something doesn’t somehow make it untrue. He didn’t say who was going to win American Idol last year either, so clearly there couldn’t have been a winner, with your sense of “logic”.

    Thank you for this completely useless exercise on your part. Calling yourself a sore loser was a nice touch. I enjoyed your banter…it gave me something to do between work and other interests.

    Take care, my very racist and uninformed friend.

  • MarcusFenix

    And yet, even though Johnson said it…it’s still valid. But thanks for pointing that out.

    Correct, Kerry is the SoS. Just because he doesn’t say something doesn’t somehow make it untrue. He didn’t say who was going to win American Idol last year either, so clearly there couldn’t have been a winner, with your sense of “logic”.

    Thank you for this completely useless exercise on your part. Calling yourself a sore loser was a nice touch. I enjoyed your banter…it gave me something to do between work and other interests.

    Take care, my very racist and uninformed friend.

  • bill222

    1- Michael steele , lee atwater , ken melhman were members of the republican party. Its their own words.

  • bill222

    1- Michael steele , lee atwater , ken melhman were members of the republican party. Its their own words.

  • bill222

    1- You said : ” Even if I were to concede Atwater ” I rest my case. ( after signing the Civil Rights Act in 1964,
    Lyndon Johnson famously said, “We have lost the South for a
    generation.”)

    2- You said :
    ”I made a comment about Syria, backed it up with at least 5 links showing my argument had merit”

    I read your posts , I saw no links. Liar.

    3- Where is the link that muslim brotherhood work with the rebels. Liar

    4- Democrats are : Liberals, gays and a mix of races

    Republicans : most of them are old whites

    Which party is racist.

    5- Michael steele , ken mehlman opinions have merit because they were chairmans of RNC.

  • bill222

    You are the sore loser. Where is the links am waiting.

  • bill222

    ”uninformed friend.” You didnt know the famous quote of lynden johnson. Who is uninformed. You mix up muslims brotherhood with the rebels, who is uninformed.

  • MarcusFenix

    And here I thought you were done.

    Notice….you didn’t mention the “racist” part of what I called you. You took umbrage at the “uninformed” part. Telling, isn’t it?

    I didn’t bother looking for who quoted it. -You- used the quote. I used it as part of a discussion. It could have been Da Vinci who said it…it’s not important. That there, my uneducated friend, is what’s called a fallacy. Specifically, it’s an informal fallacy, called the Continuum Fallacy. You’re welcome.

    If I’ve mixed up the rebels with the Brotherhood, then so has CBS…and Fox News..And NBC…and ABC….and about half a dozen other major publications. You did look at the CBS link before you said this right? Nope…didn’t think so. Because you didn’t see a story on MSNBC, clearly it never happened…..i mean, that’s been your argument the entire time.

    I did notice you’ve never actually addressed anything else I’ve said…but you’re a master at nitpicking things that you’re already wrong about. Again…invest in something that contains reading comprehension skils. Those encyclopedias and dictionaries I talked about earlier….you know, the ones you don’t know how to use…are excellent starting points.

  • bill222

    Am still waiting for those famous links. You call me uneducated and you are the one who can’t refute my arguments. Your famous quote : ”Democrats who supported racist policies saw the light, and finally figured out racism was bad. Changed parties”

    Go read some history books . You know the muslim brotherhood infiltrates obama administration lol

  • MarcusFenix

    I provided half a dozen links earlier, that you have yet to obviously read. I would say crack open a book, but its unlikely you’d know where to find one, much less comprehend it.

    You could also type as if you had some common sense, but that’s asking too much, I believe.

    If you want the links for everything provided, scroll back up. You can do that, can’t you? Or, like most libs, do you need me to hold your hand while you do so?”

    Moron.

  • MarcusFenix

    Why don’t you try to refute anything that’s been said to this point, rather than deflect to crap like Atwater?

    Oh, thats right…because you can’t.

    GTFO. :)

  • MarcusFenix

    So, now that you’ve gotten at least one link that answers your idiocy, you can turn your attention to everything I’ve said about you and your party, and answer that?

    Can you admit your tone and postings initially are/were racist?
    Can you admit that the Democratic party were the founders of the KKK?
    Can you admit that Democrats specifically tried to curtail anti-lynching laws, which were supported by Republicans to protect black people?
    Can you admit that Democrats, to this day, still use fear and scaremongering tactics (such as that eeevil Republicans are going to put you in chains, and take your health care and money away) even in the present?
    Can you admit that the very problem with racism exists as an issue directly tied to the Democratic party, who chose to use race as a factor…not because it is important, but because it serves to galvanize people and create partisan problems?
    Can you admit that your own party is one of division and exclusion, and that black people are merely props in their Kubuki-style theater with regards to how they approach issues?

    You can’t…..because you’re racist, just as their policies are on their face. You can talk about something that happened in the 60’s all you like…but the same scaremongering and fear driven agendas Dems used then…..are the same identical ones YOU are using today. You blatantly called someone an oreo…then tried to backpedal because it’s racist and you were called out by multiple people on the issue. You’ve never once affirmed anything other than you’re a race-baiting jackhole.

    I do believe we’re done here…you have a LOT of reading to do, and I have things to do which don’t include having to spoon feed someone who doesn’t know how to use a freaking online encyclopedia.

    More better good engrish later for you, maybe we try talk again.

    Bye bye, libtard. :)

  • MarcusFenix

    So, now that you’ve gotten at least one link that answers your idiocy, you can turn your attention to everything I’ve said about you and your party, and answer that?

    Can you admit your tone and postings initially are/were racist?
    Can you admit that the Democratic party were the founders of the KKK?
    Can you admit that Democrats specifically tried to curtail anti-lynching laws, which were supported by Republicans to protect black people?
    Can you admit that Democrats, to this day, still use fear and scaremongering tactics (such as that eeevil Republicans are going to put you in chains, and take your health care and money away) even in the present?
    Can you admit that the very problem with racism exists as an issue directly tied to the Democratic party, who chose to use race as a factor…not because it is important, but because it serves to galvanize people and create partisan problems?
    Can you admit that your own party is one of division and exclusion, and that black people are merely props in their Kubuki-style theater with regards to how they approach issues?

    You can’t…..because you’re racist, just as their policies are on their face. You can talk about something that happened in the 60’s all you like…but the same scaremongering and fear driven agendas Dems used then…..are the same identical ones YOU are using today. You blatantly called someone an oreo…then tried to backpedal because it’s racist and you were called out by multiple people on the issue. You’ve never once affirmed anything other than you’re a race-baiting jackhole.

    I do believe we’re done here…you have a LOT of reading to do, and I have things to do which don’t include having to spoon feed someone who doesn’t know how to use a freaking online encyclopedia.

    More better good engrish later for you, maybe we try talk again.

    Bye bye, libtard. :)

  • bill222

    which point.

  • bill222

    lol I read your posts, you have nothing.

    dipshit

  • MarcusFenix

    If you say so, son.

    If you have you better good english, maybe i you could talk betterer about things.

    It’s amazing that you parrot what I said about not being able to refute things…you’ve never once refuted a single thing I’ve said. I, however, factually refuted all of your garbage about the MB, who was where in the Middle East and why…even about the fact you’re a huge freaking racist.

    Here, I’ll give you a reference material to look up. It supports my position specifically, with reference to the change of Dems to R’s in the South

    Byron E. Shafer and Richard Johnston, The End of Southern Exceptionalism: Class, Race, and Partisan Change in the Postwar South (2009) p 173-4

    You do know how books work, right?

    Here’s the reference link, direct from the Wiki.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats

    From part of the article:

    “In the presidential elections of 1952 and 1956 Republican nominee Dwight David Eisenhower, a popular World War II general,
    won several Southern states, thus breaking some white Southerners away
    from their Democratic Party pattern. The passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a significant event in converting the Deep South to the Republican Party; in that year most Senatorial Republicans supported the Act (most of the opposition came from Southern Democrats”

    Whoops.

    And:


    After World War II, during the civil rights movement, Democrats in the South initially still voted loyally with their party. After the signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964,
    the old argument that all whites had to stick together to prevent civil
    rights legislation lost its force because the legislation had now been
    passed. More and more whites began to vote Republican, especially in the
    suburbs and growing cities. Newcomers from the North were mostly
    Republican; they were now joined by conservatives and wealthy Southern
    whites, while liberal whites and poor whites, especially in rural areas,
    remained with the Democratic Party.[1]”

  • Jeff Coil

    I’ve read enough of this. You are the obvious looser, looser. And you are too stupid to know when to quit.

  • Jeff Coil

    So what if you’re black? You are still a racist – the worst kind.