John Kerry’s ‘air quotes’ emphasize strike on Syria is not war ‘in the classic sense’

Secretary of State John Kerry’s loss of patience with Sen. Rand Paul at this afternoon’s hearing on Syria was obvious to anyone watching or listening. Paul, who opposes military intervention, asked for Kerry’s reassurance that a vote from Congress would be taken seriously by the Obama administration. Suppose that Congress votes against the president’s plan?

Rand Paul does have a point. However, Syrian lives aren’t the only thing on the line; the president’s ego is at risk, too.

Not only is Kerry certain that the president will receive authorization from Congress; he gave Paul his guarantee that Assad would use chemical weapons again if not stopped by the United States. “It’s too dire” a scenario to contemplate.

Kerry reminded Paul that he and others at the hearing had been to war, and that whatever the administration was planning, it wasn’t war “in the classic sense.”

No, he really did.

If it’s not war in the classic sense, what is it?

  • WhoMeToo

    I ❤ ==> @sunnyright

  • Tugger – not quite dead yet

    I wonder if the people on the receiving end of the Tomahawks think it’s a “war”.

    • Clayton Grant

      Whenever you start throwing ordnance at another country, they generally view it as an act of war.

      • CatHerder

        Ordnance is apolitical, it exists in a world where rhetoric is meaningless.

    • ceemack

      The last time somebody dropped bombs on the U.S., they wound up on the receiving end of Little Boy and Fat Man. I think you could call that a “war”.

      • Tugger – not quite dead yet

        At this point, I think most of the world would be a lot better off if “someone” dropped a few nukes on the middle east.

        • bluewaternavy

          Why stop at “a few”?

        • Spiny Norman

          I fully expect them to do it to themselves within the decade.

        • objectivefactsmatter

          Just not on behalf of Sunni jihadis. I think the targets matter a lot and we’ve established that 0’Bama is not the man to pick them on behalf of the USA or Western civilization.

          0’Bama is an enemy of Western civilization.

          • bungopony

            Good point!I also like your use of the zero rather than the “O”for Obama(spit!)’s name.

    • MarkJMills

      Tomahawks? The latest intel is that we’re deploying mutated sea bass with frickin’ laser beams on their heads.

  • JeffWRidge

    It’s not a war war. It’s just a war where people will get shot, blown up, burned and otherwise die in unpleasant and violent ways. Come now, can’t you see the difference?

    Classical style wars are so last millennium. This war will be chic and cool.

    • Stupid Republic

      Besides, Syria was asking for it, right?

      I’d channel Whoopi on this, but I really cannot take four days to bleach my brain thereafter.

      • bungopony

        Actually,to channel Whoopi,you have to bleach your brain first!

    • Spiny Norman

      In a war war, we know which side is the “bad guys” and which is the “good guys”. That determination is quite impossible in Syria.

      • objectivefactsmatter

        It’s a pageant.

      • Scorpion

        As in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.

        • Marjorie

          This political theater looks more and more like Vietnam.

        • Spiny Norman

          Well, in those wars, there was the Viet Cong / NVA, Saddam Hussein, and the Taliban / Al Qaeda. In Syria, Assad may be a scumbag, but his opposition is Al Qaeda, ferchrissake.

          • Scorpion

            In Vietnam I couldn’t tell if that civilian was going to be a Cong that evening. They didn’t have uniforms. The NVA did. Ask any Iraqi vet if he could tell a Taliban soldier from a civilian while he was on patrol. They only found out when they got shot at.

          • Spiny Norman

            Perhaps I wasn’t too clear. I didn’t mean identifying friend or foe in the field, which I know can be next to impossible in modern wars, but that there was a side to fight or to defend. In Syria, the sides fighting each other are both “bad guys”.

    • Tugger – not quite dead yet

      Yeah, but we can’t let them get killed by chemical WMD, you have to use conventional WMD.

      You know…, If we ‘accidentally’ hit some of the chemical weapon storage depot’ and ‘accidentally’ spread that stuff around we should totally apologize to the survivors.

  • logicrules

    “Yes, we’re killing, but we’re lovingly killing”

    J.Kerry, on why this won’t be “VietNam” style killing…. ‘least best I can tell.

    • Spiny Norman

      So they’ll be “lightly killed”? Like the Crunchy Frog™?

  • Misanthrope

    I suppose the civilians the bombs kill won’t be “casualties” in the classic sense, either.

  • Acethepug

    If only we had an actual Media, and not merely the Propaganda Arm of the Democratic Party … can you imagine the firestorm of negative publicity if this were a Republican Administration?

    Neither Kerry nor Obama will agree to abide by Congress’ decision? Then make them own it. Punt it back to them, vote ‘Present’ and make it clear you are doing so in the great tradition of then-Senator Obama.

    This would be bad comedy if it weren’t so deadly serious.

  • Guy_Montag_OG

    For Kerry, war is confusing, like throwing ribbons or medals away, or actually keeping them, or deciding that the terms “throwing” and “keeping” are merely social constructs, and have no meaning…unless they have “meaning” in a later interview.
    For Kerry, things are confusing, except for Ketchup.

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  • Hiraghm

    Vietnam wasn’t war “in the classic sense”… because of leftist policies

    and remember how our involvement in Vietnam started with just a few, non-combat “advisors”?

    Considering who Kerry backed in the Vietnam war, it’s pretty certain he has no clue as to who “good guys” and “bad guys” are.

  • Hiraghm

    All this delay on attacking Syria is accomplishing is giving Assad time to move or secure his aspirin factories and baby milk plants.

    • arttie

      He’ll hide the camels too.

  • Jeffrey Hardin

    Rand Paul Confirmed this Idiot….So who the hell is Rand Paul to run his mouth off? Another Idiot!

  • Stephen L. Hall

    “What if Pres Obama loses Syria vote in Congress? ‘He intends to win,’
    says Kerry. ‘We’re not contemplating not…because it’s too dire.'” — Mark Knoller, quoting Sec. of State Kerry.

    This administration admits that it doesn’t even have an exit strategy for the vote in Congress, and we are just to accept that they have any strategy for Syria. They can’t even call bombing a foreign country a “war.”

  • TJ

    It is not a “war” it is a “police action with extreme prejudice”

  • brewerandpatriot

    They must intend to fire those new Tomahawk missiles that don’t create collateral damage.

  • The Masked Avatar

    It’s official. Reality has become a South Park episode.

    • Conservative First

      First thing I thought after watching Kerry was wondering how long before Matt and Trey make an episode about this. ManBearPig FTW!

  • Marvin Nelson

    Kerry can guarantee that Assad will use chem weapons because Assad told him so and probably gave him a strike date window. This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

  • Don Truscott

    Wow this is crazy shit…..all the folks against Iraq and Afghanistan are the folks beating the war drumbs. My my my well well well. Isn’t this strange. We have a bunch of idiots running this country. Both parties make me sick. Im a pissed off republican on the verge of going independent. My party is a joke. God bless Rand Paul.

  • detroit19

    John Kerry = Lurch so I guess Valerie has his ba@$s in a sling instead of Morticia. I don’t know about you, but I’m relieved.

  • Cynical Mike

    So, let’s make sure I have this straight: Someone lobs a few missiles at us … say … maybe just little missiles, and maybe just at a few refineries, because they don’t like the way our gasoline behaves in a molotov cocktail or whatever. Anyway, it’s obviously not an act of war; it’s just kind of a protest of sorts (think “Occupy Wall Street” with hardware. Do I have it?

  • tops116

    Kerry was for the classic sense of war before he was against it.

  • deano24
    • objectivefactsmatter

      “Although some University professors specializing in foreign policy and defense issues fully supported Clinton’s decision, they also indicated that the actions were narrowly tailored to fall within the bounds of public approval and do not signal a reprisal of the Persian Gulf war.”


      It’s a tailored war. A pageant. Many of the advisers are originally from Saville Row. We’ll get the “optics” just right, and you’ll look fabulous reading from TOTUS.

      And another bonus: University professors will find smart things to say about it. They won’t be burning American flags this time.

  • Thomas, Snarkmaster General

    Wait. John Kerry was in a war? Who knew?

    It may not be a war in the classic sense, but John Kerry is still an ass in the classic sense.

    • trixiewoobeans

      Will they apply that to their reasoning on the 2nd Amendment?

      • Thomas, Snarkmaster General

        Wait. The Left has reasoning on the Second Amendment????

        Mind. Blown.

        • trixiewoobeans

          Yup, their “reasoning” that it was for hunting, not protection. Makes as much sense as not a war in the “classic sense,” right?

  • objectivefactsmatter

    Congress could preempt the American jihadi rogues in power by determining that we will strike in the future under certain conditions if certain minimal evidence is presented. And I might add that a rational congress would make it clear that our only interest is in denying the proliferation of WMD use and possession. That is our only interest.

    Show this amateur what true leadership is about. This is an opportunity for congress. Show them how true “red lines” are defined.

    It’s only complicated because we’ve let these deranged leftists run amok for too long.

  • andycanuck

    But Kerry’s a Vietnam vet! The WaPo keeps on telling us that!

    • objectivefactsmatter

      So are lots of other communists. They don’t tell that part.

    • Marjorie

      Yeah…and he threw us all under the bus!

  • objectivefactsmatter

    If ever the left had good reasons to oppose war, they’d me marching as we speak.

    And what do we see?

  • rivers

    So I guess all Obama/Kerry/Hilary voters are just too damn stupid to have read 1984? I am amazed at how pathetic you would have to be to buy this crap.

  • takeno12

    Okay, just like bj is not sex…

  • RLEE

    Hey Obama drones people all the time so what’s a few tomahawks ?

  • Roto

    Yea, Jon. Not “in the classic sense” where you request a Purple Heart for a Band-Aid wound….

  • JD Son

    Usually, when you go into “war”, you go into win, and don’t set timetables that the enemy clearly knows about.

  • alumin

    Maybe Kerry is sending Sharks with freakin lasers on their heads!—-or—-just ill tempered sea bass! So, not really “war”!

  • Maxx

    Historically speaking, adjectives have never stopped a bullet from a gun nor a child from bleeding.

    Not a war in the classic sense? What…soldiers bled differently in ’42?

  • chetnapier

    Which muslims are we going to bomb again the ones that want to kill us or the ones that want to kill us?

  • chetnapier

    I meant which muslims are we going to send arms too the ones that want to kill us or the ones that want to kill us?