‘Go to hell’: Vocalist David Draiman of Disturbed destroys ‘ultra-liberal’ Rolling Stone in epic rant

Heckuva job with that Boston bomber cover, Rolling Stone. Readers are disgusted by the sickening glamorization of terrorism, there wasn’t enough depravity for terror groupies, and now the magazine is losing the musicians after portraying Dzhokhar Tsarnaev as a sympathetic heartthrob.

Singer David Draiman is among those musicians.

The Disturbed and Device vocalist absolutely filleted Rolling Stone in a raw, passionate rant posted to Twitter. [Editor’s note: Draiman’s rant was written in all caps. Twitchy has changed it to sentence case to make it easier to read.]

How far the mighty have fallen,

I used to dream of making the cover of Rolling Stone magazine, as it used to be the ultimate statement of legitimacy for an aspiring musician and it meant that you had really made it. Over the past 5 years, Rolling Stone has become less and less about music, and has become more and more about bullshit, pop culture nonsense. Even though many of us may not care for it, we were able to live with it…until this.

Are you out of your ultra-liberal, sympathetic to a fault, fucking minds??? You have not only succeeded in blatantly insulting and dishonoring the victims and families whose lives were forever effected by this rabid animal, but you have now glorified his cowardly and unforgivable act. Why? Because it will sell magazines? Because it will create controversy? Because you actually do sympathize with this abhorrent, cowardly, piece of shit? You have made it attractive and validated the act, to a whole new generation of wanna be terrorists seeking martyrdom and infamy. You, and your kind are the reason why people think that they can go out “in a blaze of glory” while murdering innocents. Honestly, and i mean this from the bottom of my heart…Go…Fuck…Yourselves.

The next terrorist/murdering incident, be it another bomber, or a madman with an assault rifle, unleashing fire upon a school full of children, is on you.

May your consciences (if you even have them) wiegh immeasurable heavy on you for the rest fo your lives. I condemn this act, this notion, and this worthless piece of shit fucking rag of a magazine. May the powers that be have mercy upon your souls, because the next time something like this happens, i assure you, the world wont.

-Go to hell

Draiman is calling for a boycott.

One Twitter user whined about Draiman’s use of the term “ultra-liberal.”

Draiman’s response:


Carson Daly calls out ‘irresponsible’ Rolling Stone for terror-glamorizing Tsarnaev cover

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No más: Rolling Stone’s cover star is ‘popular, promising student’ Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

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‘Sick of hearing what a great kid he is’; ‘The Five,’ Twitterers slam media hand-wringing over Dzhokhar Tsarnaev

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Editor’s note: The title of this post has been edited for clarity.

  • John

    I refuse to call the RS editors “liberals”. They’re LEFTISTS — specifically, America-hating leftists.

    • Polly Phluid

      What a crock. Like that even means anything, lkie being on the left means you agree with this rubbish. Think you’ll find terrorists are generally right-wing, read your history.

      • Harry Bean

        Hate to tell you there Polly, but all the mass shootings lately, along with the OKC bombings were committed by LIBERALS. Maybe learn something, or even read something before posting. Even GZ was an Obama supporter. Wise Up!

      • CruisingTroll

        Really? Please, provide your examples of these “right wing” terrorists.

        BTW, the divide between “right wing” and “left wing” is on collectivism vs individualism.

        • Shaun

          Ummm…Timothy Mcveigh? Anyone remember him?

          • CruisingTroll

            sure. One.

            On the other side, you’ll find the Weather Underground, Earth Liberation Front, Red Brigade, Shining Path, PLO, Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaeda, heck, the legions of Islamic terrorists are too many to list, the Unabomber, FARC, etc… etc… etc…
            This doesn’t even begin to get into things like the WTO riots in Seattle and other such “direct action” crap.

          • Mike Bittner

            So you found the nut squirrel? /golf clap

          • Jay Beach

            McVeigh was never identified as a right-winger. I believe, though, he was considered to have been part of Al Qaida. I may be wrong about this, but the Oklahoma City bombing had all the earmarks of a Muslim-style political statement.

          • Amy Rupe

            you mean it had all the earmarks of cia? Al Quaida is a creation of the cia

          • Jay Beach

            Why don’t you find a topic you know something about, Amy?

      • Robert Reeve

        polly, libs are the prob you moron, you people back every thing they do. you need to check your history where the hell your from because its not in America…

      • Allan Hamilton

        Oh Polly, still parroting the same old lame talking points? Ignorant is no way to go through life sweetie.

        • Brad

          Ignorance is all the leftists know. It IS their “life”.

        • http://mcwilliamsriverhome.com Indian Andy

          Polly “parroting.” Very good!

      • Ol’ Reb

        Yeah. “Terrorists are right-wing.” That’s why Democrats embrace Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Ward Churchill, and radical Islamists. Polly, you are not very intelligent.

        • Love of Country

          So I tried to get a feel for who you are since you post here with those offensive stars and bars next to your name. I noticed you follow David Duke on Disqus who has no posts yet …. why follow him and how do you know of him?

          And who is Rebel Bill to you? You followed him on Disqus from the get-go to …… another person with the stars and bars, no?

          So the three of you show up on Twitchy at around the same time and all three of you flaunt race-baiting avatars.

          So what’s going on, I wonder? I mean not to get all GZ in yer business, but what are y’all up to?

          • Steve Ahle

            Who cares?

            Are you serious?

            Who really cares?

            I think you need to try taking a walk outside every once in awhile. You know, maybe you should make some friends, instead of caring about whatever it is you care about here.

          • http://mcwilliamsriverhome.com Indian Andy

            I’ll have you know that David Duke left the Klan over 20 years ago. He was the leader that took them from burning crosses and acts of terrorism, to suit wearing voters who get things done.

          • wherlegig

            That are STILL racist. You missed a spot.

          • Jay Beach

            It is not a crime to be racist, any more than it is to be a Democrat. Though I would think the latter could be a more serious character fault.

          • Jay Beach

            It is not a crime to be racist, any more than it is to be a Democrat. Though I would think the latter could be a more serious character fault.

          • Love of Country

            Thank you …. yes I know who the real David Duke is.

            But ol Reb is following a David Duke on Disqus who has no posts. How do you follow someone’s posts who have no posts?

            These three I mentioned are liberals pretending to be racist Republicans ….. that’s my fear!

          • Lolly

            I don’t think it is very wise to use that particular situation and change it into a verb, but if you’re going to do it, don’t you think it ought to be more apropos? You’re just asking for answers and examples, not shooting Ol’ Reb cos he is on top of ya beating you. Some might consider that to be in just as much poor taste as the Bomber cover. Just some food for thought. Not yelling or berating.

          • Love of Country

            You make no sense and I have no idea what you’re talking about in any of your post. Are you on drugs?

            You’re suggesting something I said was as in poor taste as the bomber cover? Are you a liberal?

            And who the heII is ol reb beating?
            Are you feeling well?

          • Lolly

            No, I’m not high or unwell. Thank you for asking. I hope you’re also feeling well. And, No–by the way–I am very conservative socially and politically.

            You said “get all GZ in yer business.” I said it might be wise not to change that situation (*aka G killing M) and making it into a verb phrase (for example “get all GZ” because some people might think it is poor taste to use a tragedy (and yes, it is tragic that a young life is gone, even though that young life was complicit in that death.) and make it a pop culture way of speaking which would trivialize the tragic events.

            Then, I explained that since you were just asking him questions (and NOT shooting him whilst he is sitting astride you and pounding your face off) that the verb wasn’t appropriate (apropos).
            Then I said that I was just giving you some thoughts to consider.
            I was in no way being aggressive or a jerk. I was just putting an idea out there for you to consider.
            Does that “make sense” and do you now ” have an idea about what I am talking about in my post?”

          • Love of Country

            Thank you …. I thought you were messing with me.

            I understand now. I used GZ for the sake of brevity as well as being a bit provocative to someone whom I believe is a racist liberal trying to look conservative to give us a bad name on Twitchy.

            What I meant by getting GZ in yer business was just to say I wanted to find out what Ol Reb was up to in the neighborhood …. is he one of us or one of them?

            Sorry for being so cranky.

          • Love of Country

            Thank you …. I thought you were messing with me.

            I understand now. I used GZ for the sake of brevity as well as being a bit provocative to someone whom I believe is a racist liberal trying to look conservative to give us a bad name on Twitchy.

            What I meant by getting GZ in yer business was just to say I wanted to find out what Ol Reb was up to in the neighborhood …. is he one of us or one of them?

            Sorry for being so cranky.

          • Love of Country

            I can’t respond to this post to save my life ….. each time I try … the post vanishes as soon as I turn around. I’ll try again ….

            Thank you …. I thought you were messing with me.

            I understand you now. I used the term GZ for the sake of brevity as well as being a bit provocative to someone whom I believe is a racist liberal trying to look conservative to give us a bad name on Twitchy.

            What I meant by getting GZ in yer business was just to say I wanted to find out what ‘Ol Reb was up to in the neighborhood …. is he one of us or one of them?

            Sorry for being so cranky.

          • Lolly

            No worries! We’re all good. :) Thank you for responding so nicely!

          • Jay Beach

            How is “Ol’ Reb” race baiting. Your criticism of it is like demanding that all statues of Robert E. Lee be removed from the South. Total bull.

          • Love of Country

            Ol Reb is up to no good. It is impossible to follow someone on Disqus before they even begin posting …. but Ol Reb is following other racists on Disqus before they even make their first post.

            If you don’t smell a rat then that’s on you. Besides, all I was doing was asking questions.

            Long story short … Ol Reb has some unhealthy obsession in life with the Confederate South …. the last kind of person most people on this site want to deal with. It is very offensive to black people.

            If you folks want a mural size confederate flag on your bedroom wall that’s fine, but it’s really not appropriate for public consumption.

            But to compare Ol Reb to a statue of Robert E Lee is laughable at best, no?


          • Jay Beach

            To hell with offended blacks. They are professionally offended. They are offended when the sun rises because it’s so white, and the moon is white, too, so they are probably offended by that.
            If you cannot accept southerners, then don’t say stuff about you loving your country because the south is part of it, has been and hopefully always will be.
            Also it was a bunch of southerners who gave this nation the gift of higher education with some of our best colleges and universities. Not all southerners are ignorant but I begin to think most yankees are.

          • Love of Country

            I’ve been a proud Texan for the last 46 years …. and you?

            And I don’t know of a single black Republican who is professionally offended but we’re all offended you can’t give two-sh ts about their feelings. “To heII with them” my azz! (now go outside and wave that confederate flag)

      • The Penguin

        Please, share with us your obviously well researched data backing up these facts. I’m sure you have many documented cases and plenty of evidence supporting your statement. No? Okay then, Now run along, I’m sure you have a used tampon throwing party you have to attend. Thanks for stopping by.

      • Corey Dennison

        Try again, doofus.

      • UnCL3

        yaright, dumb@ss

      • burkanuck

        Just another uninformed, idiot, LEFTIST. Go back to huffpo and daily kos you moron, you obviously drink their Kool-Aid rather than do any actual reading of legitimate historical sources. YOU are the crock.

      • redpens

        Lee Harvey Oswald: communist. Oops, you missed that one. Commies are not right wing, neither are Nazis

      • Steve Ahle

        Leave it to the Liberals to be caught blaming themselves on the right. So typical I could have predicted this comment. It must be nice being a Liberal. You don’t have to think for yourself or anything. You just read and repeat. No fact checking, etc. Must be quite easy.

      • BlaspheBeast

        Couldn’t be more wrong. Almost every homegrown terrorist this nation has encountered is a left wing nut. YOU need to read your history.

      • Jay Beach

        Harry is right. While the Al Qaida misfits are considered to be right wing, that is right in the milieu of their Iranian-based culture. But it is the Left that has traditionally in western culture been the source of most social violence.

    • Cajun

      Your’re correct. I said the same thing to someone this morning. People shouldn’t confuse a liberal, with a bleeding from the head, useless, communist wannabe and sympathizing LEFTIST!!

    • William2010

      I ceased employing the word “Liberal” in any discussion.
      The proper term, as you noted, is “Leftists.”
      The same with “gay marriage.”
      No. There is only Marriage, and it, by definition, includes one party a male, the other a female, in reality, biologically, physically, etc., not a person who claims, or who people claim, is a man trapped inside a woman’s body, or a woman trapped inside a man’s body.
      Marriage is open to everyone. If a male does not wish to bond and unite with a female, that is HIS choice. He could marry a female, but chooses not to. He cannot actually marry a male for that is not the definition of marriage. He cannot claim that he is being discriminated against, for he has the “right” to marry a woman, but chooses not to.
      So, no, there is no such thing as a “Liberal.” Conservatives are liberal in their charitable donations, their volunteer work for their fellow human beings, their compassion and assistance given to those in need, their respect for human life, as evidenced in their protection of babies against abortion, their care for babies already born, the care and compassion for the ill and informed, the down trodden, and so on, something the Left stakes verbal claim to, but falls short in actually delivering.
      Leftists are more concerned with disrupting, promoting violence, poverty, class envy, hatred, racism, distrust, bondage, and oppression, while Conservatives support freedom, liberty, prosperity, security, personal responsibility, happiness, and goodness.

      • Shanna Wynne

        I had to sign in to this crappy site just to downvote you. While I agree “leftist” is a better way to describe the “ultra-liberal” politics of some, just as “right-wing” is better than “conservative”… No, that is not how the definition of marriage works and take your “right-wing” propaganda and bury it elsewhere.

        • Corey Dennison

          So, you admit to cyber-stalking? Nice.

        • Beth Rose-Acor

          Are you rewriting the law Shanna? Although some of us “Right-Wingers” could care less who marries who, some do care, including the DEFINITION of the word marriage. Do yourself a favor, buy a dictionary and read it

          • Shanna Wynne

            Marriage is a word – exactly – which means the definition can be changed, because, if you’ll excuse me, “right-winger”, marriage used to mean a binding contract blah blah between a man and several women at a time…. but I don’t see that on our record books. Don’t try to get all “right-winger” with me using marriage and obviously a Christian sense of perspective unless you’re going to be completely Biblical. Either polygamy is okay or you and every other “right-winger” needs to get over themselves and deal with the fact that even Christians have “adjusted” their priorities over the years due to “changing” times and you need to just accept that marriage now no longer means “between a man and a woman” and leave it be. Marriage isn’t something you only do in a church, and because of that, it can mean whatever people want it to mean. It has changed. Live with it.

            Also, let me just reiterate.. Marriage about 40 years ago used to also only describe “white people with white people” and “black people with black people” and “hispanics with…” well, you get the general idea, I’m sure. Marriage is a government institution and can change. It has changed. Deal with it.

            And, sorry I just can’t stop, the Supreme Court just got done “rewriting” the law, more or less. Because, one, it’s not legal anymore for any state to say marriage is between 1 man 1 woman, and two, marriage equality is seriously going to happen everywhere as soon as everyone gets to the court houses and starts suing for it. Every state will have to give in because the Supreme Court made it obvious that discriminating marriage based on sexuality is discrimination. So yes… YES… the definition of the word marriage has changed completely.

        • burkanuck

          Actually, you stunned “leftist”, that is EXACTLY how the definition of marriage works and has for millennia, but thanks for your idiotic input.

          • Shanna Wynne

            Actually no, I’m not a stunned ‘leftist’. But I’m also not a right-winger who thinks it’s cool to be a hypocrite. And you’re welcome for my input. Someone’s got to interject sanity into the conversation.

            And just for your sake and everyone/anyone else who hops on here to try and comment me to death as a liberal…. I am a conservative/Libertarian. Fiscally I am conservative, socially I’m much more Libertarian, but I am not really now a leftist or “liberal” in very much sense of those words.

        • ClinkinKY

          Why are you reading this “crappy site” to begin with. Oh wait, for research, right? The sacrifices you LEFTISTS make:)

      • Mark James

        I substitute “communist” for liberal. It’s one and the same nowadays.

        • UnCL3

          YUP YUP YUP!!!!

      • Beth Rose-Acor

        Mind blowing awesome truth! Well said!

      • Mike M

        You, William2010, are awesome.
        Thank you for saying what all sane people were thinking when we read this article!

  • Grandma HeadInjury

    ” I HAVE LIBERAL STANCES MYSELF (PRO CHOICE, PRO GAY MARRIAGE)” ummmmm…yeah…we kinda got the idea from your prolific use of the caps-lock….

    • Finrod Felagund

      Someone should ask him if his use of caps lock makes him a capitalist.

      • Thale Taxurfeet

        Well, maybe, but I’d guess he’s just shiftless…

        • Connie M

          Or maybe shifty . . .

        • Ty in TX

          Finrod, Thale….shame on the both of you, your pun licenses are revoked for one week :)

          • Thale Taxurfeet

            “your pun licenses are revoked for one week :)”

            When you pry it from my cold, dead, right, frontal lobe. 😉

        • SpinMeNot

          How about living large?

          • Thale Taxurfeet

            Shoutin’ at the devil, or a reasonable facsimile there of?

    • iamnotu

      He has always made it clear in the past years he, and other bandmates (disturbed/device, even the Fight of Flight guys sometimes an offshoot of other Disturbed members) find the caps locks much easier to deal with, he uses them, and at this point we all look past it. This has been since before Facebook was even up and running popular.

      • Ironhawk86

        I’m guessing some misguided publicist told them it would up their metal cred. Also, I really want Holly Knight and her people to sue over the Device name.

        • NRPax

          Holy crap. You mean I’m not the only person in the world who remembers that group?! Thank you!

          • Ironhawk86

            Its a shame they didn’t last that long cause they pretty much beat The Cars at their own game.

          • NRPax

            As a Cars fan, I’ll have to politely disagree. Then again, Holly was a lot better looking than Ric. -:-)

          • Ironhawk86

            I’ll admit that comment may have been a tad facetious but in terms of hi-tech AOR/new wave hybrids, 22B3 basically took the template laid out by Heartbeat City and took it to a whole new level, one as far as that style could conceivably go without becoming something else altogether. But I always look back on the legacy of The Cars with some disappointment because of the Benjamin Orr (RIP) solo album. Its impossible not to listen to “Stay The Night” and not think “What the hell where they thinking making Ric the lead singer?” and thus question what could have been.

          • Ironhawk86

            I’ll admit that comment may have been a tad facetious but in terms of hi-tech AOR/new wave hybrids, 22B3 basically took the template laid out by Heartbeat City and took it to a whole new level, one as far as that style could conceivably go without becoming something else altogether. But I always look back on the legacy of The Cars with some disappointment because of the Benjamin Orr (RIP) solo album. Its impossible not to listen to “Stay The Night” and not think “What the hell where they thinking making Ric the lead singer?” and thus question what could have been.

          • NRPax

            As a Cars fan, I’ll have to politely disagree. Then again, Holly was a lot better looking than Ric. -:-)

  • aposematic

    Can’t believe I’m about to say this but credit where its due: Draiman has captured my thoughts on that despicable cover completely.

    • Peetweefish

      I like Disturbed but almost always disagree with Draiman. But if I didn’t listen to music or buy stuff from people I disagreed with, I’d be bored, naked, homeless, and starving.
      He nailed it with this rant.

    • Canadian in USA

      I *know*. I was about to say that I can’t believe I’m agreeing with the lead singer of Disturbed. Did anybody see Satan buying a snow blower, perchance?

      • Ironhawk86

        Side note: Satan is an infinitely better metal band than Disturbed. Down With The Sickness doesn’t have sh#t on Court In The Act

        • dark angel

          Thumbs up for mentioning an obscure NWOBHM band.

          • Ironhawk86

            Thumbs up for having an obscure thrash band as your handle

  • spepper

    “Failed by his family”??? Who wrote that drivel at RS? His family absolutely succeeded, by indoctrinating him into the murderous world of JIHADISM.

  • NachoCheese (D)

    The irony of someone using all caps while telling someone else to calm down…

    • Orwellian_Dilemma

      Due to all that loud music he plays, he cannot hear very well and thus does not realize he’s shouting.

      • Lynnette Bonin

        that is way to funny

    • BlahBlah

      I AM CALM

      • Grandma HeadInjury

        So now my wife is the vocalist for Disturbed?

        “THAT’S NOT FUNNY!”

        Uh-oh, gotta go….

  • http://deadbuffaloblog.blogspot.com/ DeadBuffalo Blog

    Libs arguing with libs: “I ain’t got no dog in this fight”

    • Mark81150

      More accurate, rank and file moderate democrats arguing with their insane leftist fringe which they allowed to take over the democrat party while they were asleep at the switch.

      • BayushiZero

        I used to rent a bedroom from a 65-year old (at the time) Mormon woman, whose adult son also lived on the property.

        She HATED Bush and Republicans, as she was a lifelong Democrat. Yet, at the same time, she refused to watch anything with Charlie Chaplin because he ‘was a communist’.

        I had to turn around and walk away from that comment, lest I be evicted after she goes berserk on me.

  • digitalPimple

    Can I just say I know this guy and know the band… I agree with his sentiment.. but this dude is a complete and utter tool in real life of the highest caliber.

    Also, Dan is also a HUGE d*ck that s*its on his closest friends…

    • NRPax

      Can you expand a bit? My only reference points with David are the interviews he’s given and his history and I was left with the impression that he’s liberal leaning but not a tool.

      • digitalPimple

        I knew the band BEFORE they became the DISTURBED of today. Just speaking personally. Long personal story… The guy is a major, I mean major piece of utter dog s+it regardless of his political views (which only add to his personal charm).

        Now back to regularly scheduled programing…

    • Grandma HeadInjury

      “Also, Dan is also a HUGE d*ck that s*its on his closest friends…”

      Yep…seems like you almost know him by name… 😀

      • digitalPimple

        First thought is about Dave.
        Second thought beginning with the word ‘also’, is about DAN the guitarist.

        • Grandma HeadInjury

          I figured you were for real, I just had to tweak you a little bit. Sounds like both of them are real winners…

    • Ironhawk86

      That’s not surprising. Most people in showbiz are @$$h0les. I just enjoy trying seek out the few who aren’t.


    I’m looking forward to hearing about Dzhokhar being bent over his bunk, taking it like a women, while he gets to know his cell block mates.

    • NRPax

      I’d prefer he not live that long in prison myself.

    • Richo

      I’m sure you’ll be begging for pictures or videos, you know, 100% completely just for research/journalistic purposes, to confirm it actually happened.

    • Kevin Krom

      Dude, it isn’t cool or funny to condone rape in any form, and especially not as extra-legal punishment.

      • Grandma HeadInjury

        “I’m looking forward to hearing about Dzhokhar consenting to being bent over his bunk, taking it like a woman, while he gets to know his cell block mates.”


    • PhxRising

      You actually think it’s wise or intelligent to compare Dzhokhar to a woman?Don’t be such a sexist f*cking pig.

  • http://aggiesprite.wordpress.com/ LC Aggie Sith

    Holy cow…. I had no idea “Rolling Stone” was still in print.

    • jasonacg

      …Which explains why they pulled this stunt.

    • SpaceRacer423

      Rolling Stone hasnt been in print for YEARS.

      What youre seeing is a collection of ads for very high end products with a glossy “Rolling Stone” cover on it.

      • Kyle Schroeck

        Skymall with “music” articles.

        • SpaceRacer423

          damn- that is a way better and more concise description than mine. well done sir.

        • Ironhawk86

          I’m pretty sure the people at Skymall could write far better music reviews that the d-bags at RS.

  • Constance

    Name calling is not attractive! I absolutely agree with Dave and, although I might have chosen different words, believe he is right on the money. Have canceled my subscription and all remaining issues will go right in the trash – where they belong!

  • Texan357

    Disturbed has always been more among my wife’s favorites than mine, but this is nice. I’ve never liked Disturbed more.

  • napalm

    What’s with the capslock

  • L R

    Liberal lines are being drawn in the sand, finally! So glad to see that some liberals do draw the line and aren’t afraid to speak out when something “ultra-liberal” threatens the very fiber of our society.


    Not the first time for RS.. They one time had Charles Manson on the cover…

  • BlahBlah

    Tsarnaevs didn’t use assault weapons or clips with more than 15 bullets so I guess no problem here.

    • Christopher Masters

      Not true they had assault rifles that they used to shoot at the cops when they tried to run

      • Corey Dennison

        Assault ‘rifles’ or assault ‘weapons?’

        There’s a significant difference.

    • Micki280

      Yep and maybe the next thing they will do is ban pressure cooker’s!

  • ObamaFail

    What is with the left and their need to make victims or heroes out of terrorists?

    • BlahBlah

      Too many Skittles and Arizona iced tea?

    • redgypsy

      I think they wish they were, themselves, terrorists; they could affect so many more people than they do now (speaking mostly of magazines like RS)

    • Mark81150

      A few like to imagine themselves as Che’.. spreading their personal politics at gunpoint.. shooting a few capitalists and their families..

      It’s sick, but these people are out there..

      The ones like Ayers friends, who saw nothing wrong with plotting the genocide of 25 million Americans..the sick freaks who STILL defend him..

    • Bathing Suit Area

      Why do you assume that’s how they see him? The headline calls him a monster.

      • SJ’s Dad

        Why do YOU assume the space from which you steal oxygen?
        CLEARLY none of it is getting to your brain!
        It’s called reading; Left to Right, Top to Bottom, words make sentences, I know a tutoring service . . . you ESL?
        Get someone to help you with this:
        “He was a promising student . . . .blah blah blah . . . MILITANT Islam . . . something something something . . . . MONSTER!”
        Like all you Libtardashians, Poor baby’s a VICTIM!!!!
        Him didn’t get enough participation ribbons growing up!!

  • cot1tk

    Liberals in conflict. Haa haa

    • BlahBlah

      BRB I’ma bring us some popcorn.

  • stuckinIL4now

    Just another symptom of the disease I like to call LIBTURDISM.

  • demoivre

    Rolling Stone lost all credibility when they posted Justin Bieber.

  • https://twitter.com/Captain_Cy_kun Cy

    Even leftists are right once and a while.

    • nc

      Broken clock.

      And yes, I saw what you did there.

    • disqus_AVDYxhWaoU

      Well i think the problem is progressives. They get the ignorant lefties on their side, just by having a loosely based ideology. Just like the Christians did in the 50’s to strengthen their political hold. By including every pseudo christian belief. At least we learned one good thing about that experiment. Eventually it will bite you in the ass. I’m liberal on some things. Hell i’m Libertarian! I’m probably more liberal than most. Except when it comes to abortion. The right a women has over her reproductive organs, are a bit of a paradox. There’s so many plot holes in that argument, that its unreasonable to make it justifiable. I do believe his rant is correct though. I wish more celebrity Libs, would rant a bit more. It would definitely help libertarians if a lot of them swung to our party. I do however think he had nothing to apologize for. He just did not use the right wording. He should have said progressives. Stating his support for other controversial issues, weakened his argument. As I’m sure he only alienated his lib fans as well as prospective conservative fans. Not to mention it makes him look like a hypocrite.

  • Joe W.

    Two liberal moon bats arguing liberalism?? Gotta love it. Let’s see more of this please. Just like Muzzies blowing each other up, maybe the libs will do us all a favor and do likewise. One can only hope.

    • exbagboy

      Maybe if you stood up to the gun-toting racist crazies in your party, your whole bunch would not be branded as the “stupid party”.
      There are educated conservatives out there with good ideas but they are obscured by idiots like you.
      Rolling Stone glorifying that murderer and putting his picture on the cover is only baiting more crazy, depressed kids with glory and fame by killing innocent people.

      • trixiewoobeans

        Who would they be (gun-toting racist crazies)?

      • BayushiZero

        Well, I’m pretty well along rightward. I own a firearm (and have 20 rounds of 7.62x54r within 5 inches of my hands as I type this); but…
        A) I’m not racist.
        B) I’m not crazy.
        C) I’m certainly not stupid.

        MAYBE you should try a little self-reflection. It would be a bit more productive than projecting your own failures onto other people with whom you disagree.

        What happened to the so-called “new tone” in politics? Since that was brought up (post Gabby Giffords shooting), all we ever hear from the left is vitriol, rhetoric & hate.

        Maybe it’s YOU and YOUR FRIENDS who need a cure for your cranial rectumitis, Sparky; not us.

        • exbagboy

          At least you gave an intelligent response than most people on here.

          I was attacking a person that said he’d like to see Americans with different political views other than his own kill each other.

          Just because you own a gun doesn’t mean you are racist, crazy or stupid. I don’t give a shit if you are liberal or conservative, there are idiots on both sides.

          There are better ways of arguing than condoning violence among Americans.

      • Ironhawk86

        Paid attention to Zimmerman trial riots at all? All the violent racists in this country are on the left. That should be obvious to anyone who doesn’t have their head jammed up their butt by now.

  • GHerblabnik

    Other liberal views:
    PRO CHOICE = Pro Abortion = Killing innocent lives one child at a time.

    PRO GAY MARRIAGE = Killing society one family at a time.
    Sorry, actions have consequences and truths that cannot be ignored. History shows the downfall of societies that have gone down this path and terrorism is just one of the side effects of an overly permissive society that ignores God’s laws. It’s like ignoring the law of gravity and walking off a cliff.

    • Jess LeAnne

      Well said! Completely agree with you, GHerblabnik!!!!!

    • Richo

      Have you considered changing your name from GHerblabnik to Gwhargarblnik? Because whargarbarbl is pretty much what comes to mind when I read your drivel about God’s laws and gay marriages killing society.

      • Mark81150

        Strange.. we have that exact same reaction to your extremist secular views… you tamper with the building blocks of society, then whine when it’s pointed out some caution is called for..

        Gay marriage is an insult on several levels including the non religious grounds often cited… and the bigamists who your side claimed were not going to hop on this bandwagon… are exactly doing as we predicted..and as predicted, you pro-gay nonmarriage types are fine with it. So 3-5% of the population, and only a small sampling of them, demand the right to force this change on 97% of society..

        and you think there won’t be raging resentment at what you people are doing?… it’s as if you are trying to divide this country in such horrific ways as to CAUSE us to simply break up into separate nations..

        is that your goal… seems that way..

        You leftists whine about “unity”, then express your desire for it by being insulting smearing sh**s.. way to trample your supposed message..

        • pgson

          That is their goal, divide and conquer. I also have a sneaking suspicion they realize the way they’ve set things in motion, the world’s currencies (most of which are based already on lies of what they are to begin with) will be about done and so will most nations. They want to be the ones taking the reigns when it all fails.

          Whatever the reason yes, divide by race, divide morally, destroy from within. That is what we’re seeing on a ridiculous scale now.

        • Richo

          Citation seriously needed regarding your argle-bargle about bigamists “hopping on the bandwagon”, or that there is so much raging resentment that the country will fall apart because of gay marriage. And no, sending me to Internet forums or comment sections which have functioned as seething dens of raging resentment for conservative Neanderthals since the dawn of the Internet is not proof of widespread resentment.

          • BayushiZero

            Oh, hey, douchenozzle; we’re not here to compensate for your lack of research. Do it your damned self. Google is a thing, you know?

            Try having a clue before EVER posting again. Now run along, little boy. Adults are speaking.

  • Kevin Krom

    Draiman really needs to learn how to express all of that anger and tell us what he really thinks. Holding it in like that isn’t going to be good for his stress levels.

  • SpaceRacer423

    Looks like Rolling Stone learned that glorifying a terrorist is no way to sell $50k cars & $5k watches to aging hipsters.

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  • brando

    Hey, David. Get the band back together, I love Disturbed

  • JamesMc

    Not really a big fan of Disturbed, but that was a well written rant.

    • floridavet

      I had never heard of him, but I like his non-back-pedaling mode. He certainly nailed it with his rant, and then took on the post-rant commenters as well. Nicely done, Mr. Draiman.

      • disqus_AVDYxhWaoU

        He apologized to much in my opinion. He should not have defended his views. Screw his fans who felt hurt by it. Their the types hes against anyway. By apologizing, it made him seem like a hypocrite. I believe he would have gained more fans by standing his ground.

  • AlexanderArcov2

    When i go to my doctors
    office i use to steal that rag,Now if i go to the doctor and that rag is there i change my doctor.Fuck RStone..

  • Mickey O’Brien

    Spin shut down too soon.

  • eeddggy

    If anyone but Obama were POTUS, this cover would not have been thought of.
    Obama has lowered the bar in America so far that it’s subterranean.

  • eeddggy

    It will be telling to see what advertisers drop or stick with the Commie Rag.

  • Lady 12

    Wow… That was surprisingly articulate and spot on. I’m… Stunned.

  • Mark81150

    Not much left to add to his take.. so I’ll leave it as is..

    I’m not really current on the music scene, so I’ve never heard of this band.. pretty much stopped listening to contemporary radio at the end of the 90’s..

    Other than his use of all caps, he pretty well covered what ALL decent Americans think.. both parties.. the ultra left is a disgrace for glamorizing this murdering circus freak..

    • catfood

      I’m more an old school sort of person as far as music , But Disturbed is one of the better modern day bands in an industrial sort of way, Great rant from him also

  • hwy505

    I love when Liberals attack each others own ideology of liberalism.

  • catfood

    For those that don’t know them , Disturbed did a fantastic cover of Genesis “Land of Confusion” Along with several other modern hits in the “metal” genre.

    • wwbdinct

      OK! I had never heard of this group before but I do know the cover of that song and it’s fantastic – much better than Genesis’ original! Thanks for posting that.

      • catfood

        The original animated video that goes with the song is pretty awesome also.

        • wwbdinct

          Yes. I do remember that. I never really liked animated videos but that one was definitely awesome!

      • Ironhawk86

        “much better than Genesis’ original”

        And I just threw up in my mouth

        • wwbdinct

          No problem. I liked it better – you didn’t. Whatever suits your taste……

    • Ironhawk86

      Disturbed is about as metal as bread mold and the reason why the go to the cover well so much is because they have absolutely no ideas of their own. Seriously, Quiet Riot is a model of self-sufficiency in comparison.

  • $8203344

    It’s about time RS got called out for their attempt to brainwash its readers. I hope this really cause it to take a hit and go out of print. Maybe someone else will buy it and run it unbiased.

    • Bill Gryan

      Need to have a brain before it can get washed.

  • Anicra

    Get up, come on get down with the sickness

    • Marcus Arylias

      UUH WA AH AH AH AH!!!

  • core3net

    It would appear that David Draiman is in fact, Capt. Capslock. We’ve finally found you.

  • ceemack

    “We take all kinds of pills

    that give us all kinds of thrills
    but the thrill we’ll never know
    is the thrill that’ll gitcha

    when you get your picture
    on the cover of the Rolling Stone.”

    – Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show

    • Thale Taxurfeet

      Plus having to buy five copies for my mother…

      I had to play that one when I first read this thread.

  • Bathing Suit Area

    Putting a photo on the cover is not the same as glorifying. Let us know when you’ve all grown up enough to understand that.

    • The Penguin

      It’s disrespectful to the victims and the families of those who died here in Boston. Not that you would understand. As much of an a$$hole you’ve shown to be on other topics, on this particular issue, I would urge you to shut your f*cking mouth.

    • BayushiZero

      Let us know when you’ve grown up at all.

      You obviously haven’t yet. If you had, you wouldn’t be a moronic Socialist.

      Get bent.

    • JayDee

      Are you really that stupid? They weren’t forced to put up a flattering photo of him for their cover.

  • K-Dubya

    Guess he’s not down with the sickness.

  • reving19

    This kind of reminds of that time when those two homosexuals were on Bill O’Reilly and started arguing with each other and Bill just sat there with a sly grin on his face…

  • $62055988

    Someone should tell dave that the bombing was a hoax: youtube.com/watch?v=bjocGidSLJw

    Isreal did 911 too:

    • Corey Dennison

      Someone spit out their medication again, didn’t they?

    • JayDee

      argumentum ad youtubem? YHKTBFKM

  • $62055988

    Complete hoax, that boy is innocent and you don’t need to be a teen girl to see through the media spin.

    • Corey Dennison

      It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful to the stupid…

      • $62055988

        There was once a time in this nation’s history when those who believed in trials by media were counted among the stupid. Nice to see that conservatives are as susceptible to mob rule as liberals. That boy is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. This is really no different than the media’s trial by public opinion of George Zimmerman. Unless being a Muslim disqualifies one from the rule of law.

  • RememberSekhmet

    Can’t you smell the butthurt from Scott Wherle?

  • Diane Stephan

    I love when liberals fight with each other, gives me a thrill up my leg. 😉

  • VL123

    Never was a Disturbed fan but his views on this are great. But he’s still a liberal.

  • jamesben

    Draiman speaks the truth, nails it down and buttons it up. I agree with him on this 100%.

    As for the leftist douche whining about “liberals are disgusted too,” BULLS H*T – or “Rolling Stone,” a FAR LEFT RAG wouldn’t do this. It plays to their base – their “readership.”

  • BigSky1970

    It’s a Liberal pressure cooker on Twitter.

  • kelly curtis

    The American Communist Party have more in common with RS readers than they do with me. And I love music. RS is something to wipe your bum with after taking an Obama.

  • DMT_Open_Your_Mind

    jsut like MTV they have flopped, that may have helped big time…

    • BayushiZero

      MTV flopped because they decided to air everything BUT Music Television.

      • DMT_Open_Your_Mind

        exactly, used to be good, even MTV2, i dont know about MTV X but they all used to be good…

  • Micki280

    I resent you putting that kid’s picture on the front of your magazine in which you also have an article on Willie Nelson. Maybe you should thought this out and put Willie on the front and that kid’s story in the back. I will never buy your magazine again!

  • kevin Golike

    i think as this plays out,im talking the whole liberal scene, i think we will find many liberals will be jumping the boat,as the insane thinkers have taken over,and anyone with an ounce of brain will be sick by what they promote .

    • Bill Gryan

      I disagree. Insanity is contagious to weak-minded people who have no fundamental values. That’s how they became liberals in the first place.

  • HoneyTree EvilEye

    He’s trying to use facts and reason with another Liberal…I never thought I’d see a Liberal do that. I thought they were allergic to them. They are certainly impermeable to their use. It’s a waste of time.

  • Philip Wyatt

    Scott Wherle sounds and looks like a pussy!

    • BayushiZero

      Well, Scott Wherle IS a liberal.

    • wherlegig

      How very adult of you. *Shakes head*

  • William2010

    I really don’t care about leftist, radical so-called “Musicians” and their opinions about Rolling Stone immortalizing and deifying vapid, violent, malicious Islamofascist homicidal maniacs.
    I am a musician as well. I perform classical solo guitar, classical duets, Bossa, Jazz, Blues, Rock, Folk, etc. My preferred is classical, jazz and blues. I also sing classical and jazz. Most of the so-called musicians are not so talented, just lucky in having contact with the “right” people in the little cult of the entertainment industry. Many cannot play their instruments as well as many local musicians around here. Rock musicians are not as skilled as classical or jazz musicians or classical or jazz vocalists. Their ears are not as sharp, they don’t have very good pitch, their voices are crap, and their lyrics are not so inspired.
    Nevertheless, the main problem is that they are loony, radical leftists and their brief expression of outrage is more a matter of “Why don’t you just actually wake up and come over to the correct side of the aisle, not just this brief, flash in the pan, angst ridden, drama queen tantrum?”
    So, some so-called, low talent musicians complained about a terrorist’s image on the cover of Rolling Stone … boo hoo!

    • Bill Gryan

      Agreed. They are poor musicians and often write poor songs. But like Johnny Bravo, they fit the suit and look good in the video. And in our celebrity culture, that’s all that counts. Oooh, isn’t Dzhokar a cutie on that cover?

  • michaelmhughes

    Draiman is an idiot. The cover story from the issue is about how a seemingly normal kid went over the edge and became a mass murderer. The photo is appropriate for the content of the story. It in no way “glorifies” Tsarnev—it’s just a photo showing he was a normal-looking kid, and it’s probably one of the better photos of him. Should Rolling Stone have sought out a shitty photo? Maybe one with his back turned to the camera?

    Also, the same photo was on the cover of the New York Times. I guess they were glorifying him, too?

    Some people don’t understand that a COVER story about a person generally requires a PHOTO OF THAT PERSON ON THE COVER. Sheesh.

    • Iacobus

      You’d probably note that, judging by the cover, the article attempts to actually validate what Tsarnaev did, which was cold-blooded murder of innocent people. We’ve heard this before with a certain group of perpetrators on a certain infamous date.

      I mean, how do you try to logically explain to people about that poor, poor boy that kills innocent people wholesale? Answer: You don’t, because there’s no excuse for what Tsarnaev did no matter what his so-called hardship was.

      • michaelmhughes

        Uh, what? Did you read the article? Clearly not. There have been lots of magazine articles and books about a guy named Adolf Hitler (you may have heard of him). With his face on the cover. Are they “validating” what Hitler did by trying to understand what went on in his mind? Of course not.

        Take a journalism 101 class. This is an in-depth profile of Tsarnev that attempts to understand how he went from a pretty normal kid to a mass murderer. It’s in no way some sort of liberal apologetic for what he did. The fact that people think that’s the case is bizarre, as is Draiman’s idiotic rant.

        • Iacobus

          I *did* read what Rolling Stone had to say…and all it did was validate what *I* said. Hey, I know there have been books and articles about people like Hitler. All *I* need to know is what he did, not *WHY* he did it. There’s really no point. A monster is a monster.

          • michaelmhughes

            Well, fine for you. But by understanding why people do horrible things we can possibly identify people who are prone to turn into extremist loons and stop them before they go over the edge. It’s okay if you prefer not to understand the psychology that makes people turn violent, but are you suggesting there’s no need for criminologists, psychologists, or others who just like to understand human behavior?

          • The Penguin

            And medical and criminal investigative professionals obviously look to Rolling Stone for insight into human behavior. I read all of your comments and although well thought out, the only conclusion I can come to is that you are an a$$hole of the first order. You should bring your soapbox down to Boylston Street and spout this BS and see what kind of response you get from the people of Boston.

          • michaelmhughes

            I’d also like to hear how the article “validates” Tsarnev’s actions.

          • Iacobus

            The better questions are, Do we need to? Is it necessary?

            *Why?* I have no need to “understand” why a guy and his brother tried to blow a bunch of innocent people up. That’s insanity in itself. It’d be like asking why Hitler chose to kill lots of people in his thirst for power. There is *no* point.

          • michaelmhughes

            Again, it’s fine if you don’t want to understand what turns people into killers. Many people are interested in it. So unless you are appointed King of America, please allow other people to read such material if they find it interesting or useful.

    • The Penguin

      This “circle the wagons” defense by you, and all else who sides with this cover, and Rolling Stone, only because it is a “leftest” magazine, is disgusting. The point being, the victims, and families of the people killed, should not have to see this killers face when they walk into a store. Not sure where you’re from, but here we take blowing up our fellow citizens personally. It isn’t about your, or anyone else’s twisted interest in what makes this terrorist tick, It’s about disrespecting the victim’s involved and the people of Boston not having to see this killer’s face every time they walk into a Walmart or CVS…you want to learn more about your fellow leftest, feel free to do the research on line…savvy, douche?

  • Martha

    I thought Rolling Stone went out of business long time ago. The opinion of magazines, newspapers, etc. will be liberal a majority of the time. The generation before them began dumbing down America and they carry on the tradition. I can bet that 90% of the people who voted for obama never scratched the surface of who and what he is. When you vote only on party lines you better make sure that party you are voting for is the one you think it is. Obama is not a Democrat and anyone who believes that he is just need to ask him, he says he’s a Progressive. Anyone who believes that a Progressive is not looking at redistribution and government control is seriously deluded.

  • Matt Chappel

    If Americans had any ethical consistency whatsoever, they’d become this outraged every time the U.S. Military or President is featured on a magazine cover.

    These entities are responsible for a much higher body count than the SUSPECTED Boston Bomber.

    Save your selective outrage America. You hypocrites.

    • Grumpycarguy

      Ah, yes. The US military. The same ones who pretty much cover your right to say something stupid. Got it.

    • LegalizeShemp

      Ah yes, the obligatory “blame America first” tripe from a Commie. Move to Zimbabwe Mr. Chest Thumper.

    • Armored Knight

      You sleep safely under the safety of our US Military you yellow jellyfish…show some respect.

    • Corey Dennison

      Sod off, swampy.

    • Bill Gryan

      Save your moral relativism, clown.

  • Mark Scudder

    So you gave more press to a liberal musician. Way to go.

  • rockstarnati

    I heard Draiman was a libertarian. I’m not sure if this is true or confirmed, but I see no evidence to the contrary. Being liberal on social issues, specifically the ones he mentioned (pro-choice and supporting gay marriage) certainly doesn’t preclude him from being libertarian.

    • Markward

      He is? Well, if there is some confirmation of it, that be cool!

  • unknown

    Ironic he calls this “ultra-liberal” when the song Another Way To Die was all about global warming, the environment being destroyed, etc. not to mention the two music videos for that song.

    • $17227379

      I came here to make that exact point. I like David, but his rant seems a little hypocritical.

    • Markward

      Yeah, I was about to point that out to. However, Disturbed is one of those bands that I do enjoy, but disagree with the politics with.

      Indestructible is awesome.

    • nickshaw

      Maybe, just maybe, he’s on the verge of a revelation.
      These things happen more than you think. 😉

  • Running the Show

    The liberals, MSNBC and CNN along with Obama, did everything within their power to label these people white right wingers, white, white, white, and everything to avoid calling them Moslem or Terrorists. That is extremist Liberalism, ultra liberalism. MSNBC is farther left than CNN and Hitler and his party were extreme leftists, Socialist party and Stalin was Communist, far left. Both pushed Media control and propaganda based news. They are all one in the same, ultra liberalism is communism.

    • noobystok

      Liberalism, Socialism and Communism are all different ideologies…the Constitution is a liberal document. You must really hate the constitution huh?

      • Running the Show

        They are are LEFTIST ideologies. And all the people that follow them are anti Constitution; i am far right. Give it some thought.

  • Running the Show

    Of course, waiting on a communist moderator..

  • Guest

    And you wonder why Left wing media have the lowest ratings and are drying up all over? Exhibit number one.

  • LegalizeShemp

    Congrats RS (Rectal Seepage), thanks to your glamorization of this POS murderer, a whole new generation of fame-seeking fecalheads will be building homemade bombs and blowing up our kids in ice cream shops. It’s intestinal contents like you who truly bare the lunacy of the entertainment Left, but on the bright side, this will drive more sane people away from your subversive, Marxist political views.

    • JayDee

      Tsarnaev’s celebrity arises from the fact the kid he killed wasn’t black…

  • SansMercy

    Go after RS advertisers – all of them. Even the ones we like. They pulled this stunt to sell more mags so we should do them a favor and make it one of their last. Bitches.

  • Armored Knight

    Liberals quickly become conservative once they mature and/or are bitten by the crocodile that liberalism feeds…I honestly can’t understand liberal thought

    • noobystok

      Liberals founded the country that you all are so proud of. Don’t confuse liberals with stupid hippies, it’s offensive…

      • BenInNY

        Don’t confuse the old definition of liberal with the current one. That goes for just about any political label, putting aside those that have cropped up in the last 50 years, and the way far leftist groups of socialists, etc.
        Kennedy, for instance, was more of a classical liberal. Check out his tax policies. He’d be be somewhere in the range of moderate today. Maybe a charismatic Lieberman?

  • B-rad

    You lay down with dogs, you get fleas.

  • Sunshine1011

    Never heard of this guy before, who cares what he thinks.

  • $26634104

    ‘Great kids’ don’t murder people who have not harmed them. Rolling Stone owes every person harmed by this disgusting terrorist an apology and a pulled cover.

  • dark angel

    I was already laughing from this: and this worthless piece of shit fucking rag of a magazine.
    That’s what I’ve called RS for years. But he got it 100% right, my dislike for his band aside.


    He was good out of the chute, but went back-peddling abit in the follow through, all in all a solid 8

  • Danny Wheeler

    Man. For even another liberal to be PO’ed at Rolling Stone–that says something!

  • souphands

    Damn you reactionaries get all the best musicians …

  • bluiz1955

    Is there a strongly worded letter of support from Eric Holder in the margins of this edition?

  • Beth Rose-Acor

    I cancelled my subscription long ago when I show how ultra-liberal-stupid-leftist they had become in 2007.

  • Ty Mcwilliams

    Guaranteed they thought, “hey if we put ‘monster’ on the cover too that can be our shield from criticism”. #fail

  • George Kelley

    I can remember when the liberals were supporting the VietCong. It does not surprise me that Rolling Stone would be attracted to Tsarnaev.

  • $1014973

    For all the people calling Draiman a liberal, he isn’t. Go to one of their concerts, those guys waive the flag pretty hard.

  • Secede

    Obama’s minions are doing everything they can to keep Obama out of the news, aren’t they ?

  • Artemisium

    Hmmm… I was about to say HELL YEAH!… till he responded to David… He’s 1/100th on the right side…

  • Adriana Medina

    the best part is that even though he’s against killing innocents, he apparently is too blind to see the hypocrisy that he is Pro murdering innocent children. dumb. they cannot be cohesive or consistent in any of their ideas.

    • Bill Gryan

      Being “cool” comes first. Having real values with some consistency is out of vogue. It’s how the President got elected.

  • Steve Graham

    Hopefully every single decent celebrity in the musical and
    film industry will demand an instant sincere apology and then a recall from the
    bookstands of these disgusting exploitive Rolling Stones covers!! Fans, Fire Up
    Your Emails to them and let’s get this ball rolling!

  • Selma Birch

    I am sorry, but I love it when two liberals get into a cat fight over what is too far or too bad liberalism!!! LOL

  • anthonyhogg

    The rhetoric being used has diluted the political stances to almost nothing. But the gist of it is liberal vs. conservatives. So let’s reacquaint ourselves with what those terms actually mean.

    Conservatives: “Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.” – http://www.thefreedictionary.com/conservative

    Liberals: “Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.” – http://www.thefreedictionary.com/liberal

    The terms, as you can see, are quite flexible. Perhaps some clarity can be introduced by making clear distinctions about what position the respective posters are representing. Even Draiman represents himself as having alternate views… because no one is completely one or the other. Or, as Chris Rock puts it:

    “Everybody’s so busy wanting to be down with the gang. “I’m conservative”, “I’m liberal”, “I’m conservative”. Bullshit! Be a fucking person! Lis-ten! Let it swirl around your head. Then form your opinion. No normal, decent person is one thing, okay? I’ve got some shit I’m conservative about, I’ve got some shit I’m liberal about. Crime, I’m conservative. Prostitution, I’m liberal!”

    If we boil this down to a left vs. right slanging match, it obscures the issue at hand, namely, what’s the deal with Rolling Stone putting a terrorist on the front cover? Should they have done it? And isn’t boiling it down to a left vs. right thing just as exploitative as the complaints about the cover, itself?

    • wherlegig

      Your last sentence I said almost verbatim in a post on Facebook today in a CIVIL discussion about the hatred that’s been sling my way over this thing.

      Great post overall, man. Kudos.

  • wherlegig

    Thanks for saying I “whined,” Twitchy Staff. As evidenced by replies on twitter and the comments here, people completely missed my point.

    Liberals. Are. Disgusted. Too.

    Easier for you?

    Maybe if you crawled out of the right wing think tank and *gasp* actually talked to a liberal, you might find yourself surprised they share your disgust. “Ewwww! Talk to an icky liberal? No way!”

    The self-righteousness of the people who have commented and the person who wrote this article is not only stunning, it’s terrifying.

    • John Galt

      If only they were disgusted by all the other things that so negatively affect our society, it might be worth something.

      • wherlegig

        You mean like racial intolerance? Gender imbalance? Religious indoctrination? Upholding the constitution only when it serves an agenda? Calling for smaller government while simultaneously creating laws that are, by definition, unconstitutional?

        You mean those type of things? Because yeah, liberals are disgusted by THOSE things that affect our society too.

        • John Galt

          It’s obvious that your idea of huge government is different than someone who would rather be self sufficient, so I’m not going to argue the finer points of such things. Life isn’t fair. When it’s not fair to Conservatives, we suck it up and deal with it, learn from it, and are stronger for it. Liberals just whine, cry, and expect someone to come along and fix it for them. That’s it in a nutshell. The grasshopper and the ant, the child and the adult. Eventually liberals grow up and become conservative, or have a real crappy life, blaming everybody else for their failure.

          • wherlegig

            Interesting hypothesis…that couldn’t possibly be more wrong. Liberals do indeed try to fix unfairness where they see it. DOMA and Prop 8 come to mind (Yes, we know Clinton signed it. Leaders on both sides don’t always agree with EVERY single thing their constituents do).

            It’s this absolutely misjudged bunch of talking point tripe that stirs us. Just like the right, we have our educated, impassioned truth seekers who speak eloquently, without rhetoric to promote their ideals. And just like the right, we have our fringe, overbearing mouth breathers that focus in on talking points, watchwords and hyperbole to get their point across. I’ve seen way more of it from the right (especially here and on the original twitter thread the last 24 hours) than from the left.

            What’s even more interesting is that I was far more conservative in my youth, but became liberal as my thirst for knowledge grew and I became an adult. Your mileage clearly varied.

  • wherlegig

    Further, did you all miss the part where he said, “No one is attacking liberals here?” Funny…that’s pretty much ALL that’s happened, proving my point. It’s been completely glossed over that I fucking AGREE with his outrage and disgust, and all of yours by proxy, in favor of demonizing liberalism…and me personally. I’ve been called every name in the book…here…twitter…elsewhere…

    All because I agree with the stance, but took exception to ONE usage of a term…and not at any time being insulting or demeaning myself.

    That doesn’t make me a pussy (as defined by one clever user above), that makes me the bigger person. But hey, they say you are what you eat, so if I’m a pussy, I’m perfectly okay with that.

  • chanchoinva

    I love you all. So many differences in opinions yet you all hate the same person. Good job America

    • John Galt

      And who would that person be? I don’t hate any person, but I sure do have issue with the actions of a coward that kills innocent people. Forgive me if this post is misdirected, and I misunderstood your meaning.

      • chanchoinva

        Be like the amish. Forgive those that have taken from you. If you show forgiveness to the monster I am sure he will have a lifetime of regret and pain. A fate far worse than death

        • John Galt

          Forgiveness does not equal non-accountability.

          • chanchoinva

            Thats for god to decide. Not man

          • John Galt

            God commands man to hold other men accountable for their actions. Why do you think we have laws?

          • chanchoinva

            Man made laws. God made commandments.

  • ClinkinKY

    A couple years ago I ordered tickets for a concert through Ticketmaster, or some such outlet. Shortly afterward I started receiving Rolling Stone. I called to inform them that I had not subscribed. They told me that I was getting a free years subscription to same because of my recent ticket purchase. Told them that I still didn’t want it and to cease sending. They did stop sending. Of course I had to ensure that my credit card wasn’t charged the following year for “renewing” to this “free” subscription. Moral of the story: They can’t even give away this rag:)

  • http://mcwilliamsriverhome.com Indian Andy

    That woman in Texarkans who recently mailed ricin to President Obama is a liberal actress.

  • jpeters3270

    The point is, anyone who EVER buys or reads Rolling Stone again are promoting this crap. Whether you are liberal, progressive or conservative. Right or Left, if you care about people, and feel awful about the innocent victims of a**holes like this, regardless of what you think causes this diseased thinking, don’t EVER buy this rag again. Put them out of business as a warning to other rags that just want to stir up controversy, without regard to morals of any kind, in order to sell magazines.

    • wherlegig

      I haven’t bought an issue since 1999. This doesn’t make me want to.

      What people can’t seem to wrap their head around, is if this supposedly isn’t a political thing, why did Draiman mention something political, and why are there a ridiculous amount of inflammatory political posts thereafter? It 100% validates my argument that you don’t need to ignite that flame. Most rational people, left or right, think the RS cover is disrespectful and poor taste, especially this soon after the bombing. Why not just leave it at that? Some people simply can’t. They just needed one more vehicle for their irrational hatred of the left.

      It’s disgusting.

      • jpeters3270

        Oh make no mistake, I hate the statists as well for what they are doing to my country. It’s not irrational but based on their need to destroy everything I hold dear. But there are some things that should offend ALL Americans, whether you believe in the values of the Constitution or not. Rolling Stone likes to glamorize any one who hates America, because they hate America. Why don’t they just move to France?

  • John Galt

    Maybe he’s not so disturbed after all.
    Now, if these types could just get it right on all other issues, our country would have a powerful voice and a good chance to survive.

  • John Wagz

    Dave I agree. I love the music you guys do. It got me through a lot of long days in the sand. And as for liberal, This magazine has always been so far left that they are beyond the foul lines.

  • j patton
  • http://edcoyne.com/ Ed Coyne

    Apparently, David Draiman is NOT down with this particular sickness.

  • BlaspheBeast

    Polly, you couldn’t be farther from the truth. Almost every homegrown terrorist we have ever encountered in this nation is a left wing nut. YOU need to read your history and stop spreading false information. Although it does make it easy to spot you ignorant, hypocritical liberals.

  • BeeKaaay

    Good that he absolutely pwns this bloodthirsty leftwingwacko mag.

  • Jay Beach

    Draiman is right about ultra liberals. And the truth is many liberals (those not quite fully to the Left and coming around the bend to the other side) will not see anything offensive on the cover of Rolling Stone. If there were to be a picture of a conservative on the cover, those same people would go berserk. Maybe RS ought to try that, just for grins and “stuff.”

  • Jay Beach

    Draiman is right about ultra liberals. And the truth is many liberals (those not quite fully to the Left and coming around the bend to the other side) will not see anything offensive on the cover of Rolling Stone. If there were to be a picture of a conservative on the cover, those same people would go berserk. Maybe RS ought to try that, just for grins and “stuff.”

  • http://www.thebickersonsblog.blogspot.com/ Whitney Hanson

    The phrase “morally repugnant” springs to mind.

  • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

    The problem with the label “liberal” pops up again. I just call them all leftists and it means everyone from the fairly sane, slightly socialist Joe Lieberman all the way to the batsh*t crazy, Marxist SCOAMF himself.

    No point in making major distinctions on their behalf. Supporting a strong, centralized, Federal command over citzen’s lives is bad, no matter how little or how much of it you agree with.

    • guyjones

      Funny how the libs are so inherently insecure about being labeled as
      such. Thus, their preference for their allegedly “cooler” moniker, “progressives.” But, I agree with you; the label is irrelevant; Left-leaning politics are repugnant however they are labeled or marketed.

  • Spinner

    The cover can have many meanings. It can be creepy and weird showing regular guy next door but it can also glamourize especially on magazine cover that consistently shows celebrities and rock stars that people idolize. It does not have to be one or the other. The problem is Rolling Stone was blinded by their goal to be edgy and different that they didn’t think about about how it can look glamorous. If they had thought more about the victims who lost the most from this then they would have done the responsible thing and changed the cover or photoshoped it and made it less like Jim Morrison, Dylan, teen beat. It was failure of their arrogant editors and art directors who should have known better. Let me put it this way – if they had put a young good looking White Supremacist on cover of Rolling Stone and and he happens to look like Jim Morrison, Dylan and saying how its a beautiful boy turned monster, I am 100% sure someone would be FIRED.

  • Cruz2016!!!

    People still read Rolling Stone? Seriously?