Jenna Fischer ‘kinda freaked’ after reading Texas abortion legislation; Update: Fischer continues her ‘research’

Actress Jenna Fischer of “The Office” will be watching the Texas Senate tomorrow as it votes on the abortion legislation that passed the House on Tuesday. The shorthand way to describe H.B. 2 is to say that it would ban abortions after 20 weeks, but Fischer decided to prepare by reading the bill that has so many camped in Austin to protest.

… and chants. And coat hangers. And shouts of “Hail Satan!”

That’s understandable, and a nice change from the attitude of having to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.

Fischer had plenty of other questions as well and, after plenty of back and forth with followers, uncovered the truth of just about all legislation, seemingly.

Limits to legal abortion? That sounds dangerously close to “war on women” territory.

Fischer continued on Friday morning, venturing into the fetal pain debate:

  • Bizzaro Marx

    This is way better than Jim Carrey. Good for her. Not a knee jerk reaction. Real debate. Much of Europe bans abortions at 12 weeks…and we REALLY want to be like Europe apparently so…

  • AwakenNow

    That is the problem — pro-choice people do not understand and never read the Texas bill. They have only listened to Wendy Davis and the screaming, Planned Parenthood, paid and bussed-in, protesters.

  • Elena0412

    So many women assume ALL women want to murder their unborn babies.

    • Kristine

      Uh, yeah, that sort of language attacking women and effectively calling them murderers does absolutely nothing to change minds about the position on abortion a woman might have after actually experiencing an abortion herself. You only alienate people. Then again, your goal might be to preach to your own choir and not actually influence change.

      • dflambs

        Because… please stop treating innocent, defenseless children like
        that, has worked so well in the past. When someone kills another
        individual outside the womb they are labeled murders. Why is this such
        harsh language to use in the case of abortion, I mean murder, slaughter
        or massacre take your pick. Plus… have you ever tried to reason with a

        • Kristine

          4 cells splitting before they’ve even implanted in the uterine lining being called “murder” is laughable.

          A person being charged with a double murder when killing a pregnant woman is pure hypocritical BS and it was finally brought up during the Texas hearings where everyone went apesh*t over that woman and filibuster. I don’t recall anyone answering the question about the double-standard.

          Personally, I think that is ridiculous. Can’t have it both ways.

          I also do not believe dividing cells are a baby or that it’s murder. Post-viability? That can be argued to be murder, especially if it’s the sort of action done by Gosnell with the snipping of spines after the head is born.

          Anyway, this extremist labeling of abortion in its entirety as “murder” is absurd and damaging. It turns off the interest of anyone who may want to learn about the other “side” and alienates any potential new supporters.

          But like I said, if people’s only interest is to preach to their own choir and get little “Likes” on their posts, then hey, good job all.

          • dflambs

            This is the crux and why abortion is a tough topic. There is only one truth either life begins when all the information necessary to produce human being is created at the moment of conception or not. Destroying this process or potential once begun (Aristotle and potency, I may be wrong- haven’t studied him in awhile) would be inherently evil One side is right, the other is wrong. I believe the former is right and if that is true, from this premise, the only logical conclusion is to call the act of abortion, murder. Not believing in this truth allows individuals to escape this moral dilemma and helps them sleep at night. For others it is not possible.

          • MrBK

            I consider myself moderately pro-choice but I also believe that aborting a viable, unborn child is murder. While you and I may disagree on where life begins, I do agree that abortion is as much a moral issue as it is a scientific one. For that reason I certainly can’t begrudge you your view because I understand where you’re coming from. My own views on abortion has softened considerably over time. I used to be to the left of Wendy Davis on this issue – the Gosnell case changed that for good.

          • Randi R Jensen-Gray


            Maybe you should watch, how can you say that dividing cells are not a baby, it is the start of life! I can care less about the likes, its about the science.

          • Selma Birch

            Yes and the same people who say it is okay to kill an unborn baby would demand that you be put in prison if you smashed a nest of sea turtle eggs, now that is some kind of duplicity, don’t you think!!

          • T Codarmaz

            Your adamant assertion that abortion is not murder is absurd. Changing the words does not change the fact that after conception, that mass of cells is human, not a bird or an elephant. Why is it illegal to destroy some species of wildlife eggs if the egg is not the bird species? Lies don’t change truth.

        • TerrierM

          We selectively call people murderers all the time. Bush and Obama have collectively killed hundreds of thousands of people in the mid east and north africa, yet it’s still controversial to call them murderers.

      • Maria Wehmeyer

        Abortion has been legal since 1976. Think we should stop sugar coating it and start calling it what it really is, killing an innocent life in the womb. Why do you think there are laws against killing a pregnant woman? In a court of law, if that happens you are guilty of not just killing the mother but also the baby inside her. It is called murder. So we’re calling it what it is then, MURDER.

        • Elena0412

          *That* is the standard: If your mother wants you alive, you’re a human being with rights. If she wants you dead, she can legally have you killed.

          • lara

            your so right..if a liberal woman wants a child then she says I am having a baby. if she doesnt she calls it a fetus!! disgusting behavior

        • autdrew4real

          1973. I know because my mom was pregnant with me that year & according to some people, shouldnt have had me. Im glad she did :-)

      • Red Fred

        When you exempt abortion facilities from having physicians who have admitting privileges in the event of an emergency, refuse ultrasounds to determine size and position of fetus, and meet sanitary procedure required by all other medical clinics, you cannot be concerned about the health of women.

        • ColBatGuano

          Why does a physician need to have admitting privleges in the event of an emergency? Won’t the hospital admit the patient?Would they just send them down the road?

          • thebigguy128

            At most hospitals, ER physicians CANNOT admit a patient to the hospital. It takes a referral other than the ER for admitting.
            I would be very leery of any physician that doesn’t have admitting privileges. My personal physician has privileges at 3 area hospitals.

          • ColBatGuano

            So they would just kick them out of the hospital? I don’t think so.

          • thebigguy128

            No….they would stay in the ER waiting for a consulting physician to be called in…assess the patient and THEN admit. The ER docs are not going to do follow up in the hospital.

          • Kristine

            What hospitals are these? Is it a state by state thing? I’m in Arizona and believe me, I’ve been admitted multiple times by an ER physician for pancreatic attacks and Crohn’s.

          • Tom Chipp

            If the ER doc has more information than a girl telling him she “had an abortion and they dropped me at the door.” It would save time and possibly lives if the doctor that had the problem was there or was telling what he knew of the situation. While ER staffs are great, a little help does a lot of good. As far as getting up to outpatient surgery standards, after 4 decades you would think they could do that at least to prevent infections and such.

          • thebigguy128

            Who followed your case while in the hospital? Was it the ER doc? I doubt it. The ER docs do not admit. Somebody has to be responsible for you as a patient while admitted to the hospital. And that requires a doctor with admitting privileges. If you were admitted to the hospital, it was not the ER doctor, it was a consulting physican called by the ER doctor who did the admitting.

          • lara

            even having plastic surgery in a doc office or clinic you must have hospital admitting privleges Also all should pass cleanliness standards,, all this does is protect womans heath..

      • Nick500

        Cause the babies are still alive after the procedure?

        • Kristine

          There’s really nothing to say to people who think the issue is black or white. 4 cells splitting is not a baby. A fetus at viability? A baby.

          No one is going to “win” this issue without science and outlawing abortions won’t ever stop abortions. Much like outlawing guns means only outlaws will have guns.

          There has to be a compromise on both sides. Otherwise, people just look like drooling zealots who will never accomplish anything.

          I suppose I’m endorsing reason and logic where none apparently exists.

          • AW

            4 cells splitting is not a baby? Is that your scientific account? The term ‘baby’ is not scientific neither is the word ‘child’, ‘kid’ etc. Science is on the pro-life side because 4 cells splitting, whether you want to say it is a ‘baby’ or not IS the beginning of human life. That is undeniable.

            The fact that outlawing abortions will not stop abortions is a red herring. Outlawing them makes a moral statement in this country that we do not permit murder for the convenience of those who have already been born.

          • autdrew4real

            Thats why the 20 week cut off date is so important. It IS a compromise. If the pro aborts get their way they want “free abortion on demand & without apology”. If the anti abort get their way there is no abortion except for the life of the mother. The 20 week cut off IS a compromise and it is a reasonable one. I am firmly in the pro life camp but I see the other side as well. I dont agree with their idea of abortion right up to the day of birth. Neither does the overwhelming majority of the the country. So this bill isnt really as radical as the pro aborts have claimed it to be. If they want safe & legal abortions, they have to allow their to be safety regulations in place. this law does not outlaw abortions, it gives a cut off date

        • lara

          sometimes they are..

      • Ironhawk86

        Some of us are more interested in what’s right than “changing minds.” Most people are too stupid to be worth the effort.

        • Kristine

          I think that’s pretty evident by the collective comments.

          Too bad “right” isn’t universal, and deciding one is “right” for the sake of being “right” is utterly useless.

          If someone truly believes they are “right” then they advocate change. They don’t just sit in a chair being lazy and nodding their heads in self-satisfaction.

          • Ironhawk86

            You run along and “advocate” then

          • Kristine

            Translation: You don’t agree with me, go away!!

            I have been advocating. Essentially calling women murderers will do NOTHING to sway beliefs and gain support.

            See what I did there? Advocate. Because I think the issue is important and deserves thoughtful, informed discussion. Not name-calling and putting my fingers in my ears and saying “lalalalalala, go away”.

          • MrBK

            “Not name-calling”

            I see you have a pretty fluid concept of what that means:

            “Congrats on owning being ignorant and judgmental. Glad to see someone admit they couldn’t care less about changing anything and prioritize being self-righteous. Can’t fault a person for recognizing their own BS. So good job! Seriously.”

            If you want to have a grown-up discussion, grow up.

          • Ironhawk86

            You’re never going to “sway” the opinions of those who are on the take, as the dem base currently is. You get them OFF the dole by any means necessary. Reasoning with parasites is a waste of everyone’s time.

          • Ironhawk86

            You’re never going to “sway” the opinions of those who are on the take, as the dem base currently is. You get them OFF the dole by any means necessary. Reasoning with parasites is a waste of everyone’s time.

          • SpinMeNot

            Hey Dipstick … we are advocating change — an yet you still complain.

            Your handlers are not happy, there will be no treat. You don’t want debate on the matter, you want to prevent change.

            Texas has spoken. Get of over it.

          • SpinMeNot

            Hey Dipstick … we are advocating change — an yet you still complain.

            Your handlers are not happy, there will be no treat. You don’t want debate on the matter, you want to prevent change.

            Texas has spoken. Get of over it.

          • Lori Rodriguez

            There is a universal “Right”, absolute truth. There is a moral standard, and a moral lawgiver, people just want to do what they want to do, so they create their own standard. What if my “right” is that i should be able to have your wallet, and it’s not “stealing”? Do you have a problem with that? Why? It’s MY right, not yours. If one’s moral foundation is like shifting sand…that person will eventually sink into the pit. Bottom line, if it came from two human parents, it is human. So… do we get to kill humans when we want to based on, size, location, age, and viability? Watch out sick grandma, and anyone using medication or oxygen to live… you might be next.

      • Elena0412

        My goal is to call murder, murder.

        • Kristine

          Congrats on owning being ignorant and judgmental. Glad to see someone admit they couldn’t care less about changing anything and prioritize being self-righteous. Can’t fault a person for recognizing their own BS. So good job! Seriously.

          • George Gaither

            Prime example of brain damage.

          • Elena0412

            If you think a comment on Twitchy is going to stop people from murdering their inconvenient fetuses, *you* are ignorant. As far as judgmental, you bet. I judge those who kill innocents very harshly, as should you. Seriously.

      • Selma Birch

        So Kristine you would feel the same way if it was your mother in the waiting room of an abortion clinic and you were still infetro, it seems that all the pro abortion people are a bit two faced because they most likely would not support this so called choice if they were the ones who the choice was about!!!

    • David Crook

      Way to go Elena0411, you’re absolutely right! Personally I’m against abortion but maybe a compromise should be at 12 weeks or less.

      And murder is the right word for many…. or most…

      • Fritzz Ezz

        for all.

      • lara

        with new technology we can find out so early if we are pregnant there is no need to wait any longer than 12 weeks.. If you cant make up your mind in 3 months then have the baby and give it up for adoption.. Many many couples want a new baby…

  • Garth Haycock

    She should be commended for reading the bill and I respect her comments that people ought to read it before they decide where they stand on it, particularly if they support abortion.

    • Stephen L. Hall

      I respect her comments and taking the time to read the bill, however, I disagree with her conclusions that what she perceives as a lack of clarity on this singular point alone is sufficient to scuttle the bill.

      • disgusted_with_government

        “a lack of clarity on this singular point alone is sufficient to scuttle the bill”
        Wouldn’t this be true of most legislation that is passed?

      • Michael David Davis

        Big deal. So she read the bill. I’m sure she’ll be announcing her next perfect bowel movement too. Typical attention-obsessed celebrity.

      • Hal Fast

        Yes, she may have read it, but did she read obamacare? Did the party she voted for read obamacare? Is she for a party that booed God on their platform, for abomination marriage, and for paid assassinations at babybutchershops like planned babykillinghood. Of course she more than likely is and yes her opinion is heavily slanted left and political, so she just lied.

        Did she research and watch how the butcher men kill babies in the babybutchershops? She should and you can see it just by Googling it. Research that, and tweet about it. P.S. God of the living bible. – the ultimate Authority, not man, said He knew us before we where even conceived, and wove us in our mother’s womb, so according to God, not man, anytime after conception is murder period.

        • Stephen L. Hall

          Not really her job. She is an actress, not a politician. Nancy Pelosi, on the other hand, had a duty to read ObamaCare, before voting on it.

          I applaud anyone who takes the time to become informed about an issue prior to commenting on it, rather than making foolish comments and having to be “schooled” afterwards.

  • anthonybgonzalez

    She actually didn’t read the bill, she read one page of one part of the bill…the analysis actually states the exemptions… I already tweeted her back actual links.


    and SEE:$ext.TacPage?sl=T&app=9&p_dir=N&p_rloc=160025&p_tloc=&p_ploc=1&pg=5&p_tac=&ti=25&pt=1&ch=139&rl=1

    and SEE:

    All this is just political nonsense. Texas has a pretty good bill here. I’m happy my local house rep, a Democrat I didn’t even vote for, voted Yay on the bill.

    • KhadijahMuhammad

      Yeppers. When you read the bill, you realize that the Wendy people have no real beef.

      • Bud-Kathy Jones

        Cool, we remember.

    • Fritz Wittenburg

      Good job Anthony!

    • Belinda Henry

      Thanks for posting those links. I really don’t understand why they can’t just get it done before 20 weeks. Personally unless the life of the mother is in danger I find abortion to be repulsive. Cats have more care for their young then these creatures do.

  • Shawn Fifield

    I am not a woman, I will never become pregnant, so take this with a grain of salt.

    If after 5 months of being pregnant, a woman hasn’t had an abortion, I gotta wonder just what they were doing that was more important than making a decision.

    Why would anyone (other than medical complications) want to have an abortion after 5 months?

    I wonder, are the women that do want to carry a baby for more than 5 months are sadists and do it to see just how close the baby is to being born so they will be able to slaughter it when the baby will feel pain?

    • Katie Jean Valentine

      Some arguments are that they don’t have the money to get an abortion until 5 months later. My theory is that if by 5 months you still can’t decide, it’s a sign that you know its wrong and that you should let the child live and just put him or her up for adoption or something. If you really want the child gone, you wouldn’t wait 5 months.

      • Barbara Stefano

        Yeah, I love the argument that they didn’t have money for it in the first months. Guess what, gals? Birth control pills are waaaaaaaay cheaper than abortions.

        • Katie Jean Valentine

          I was just talking to a friend about that. They say abortions are to expensive, birth control is too expensive, condoms are too expensive.

          If everything is too expensive, then stop having sex and go get a job.

    • bonnieblue2A

      I think you would be surprised how many women of reproductive age are blissfully unaware and couldn’t give a rat’s backside about how their own reproductive system works or the physical and psychological damage they do to themselves through rampant sexual promiscuity.

      We have two generations of young women who have been alive only since the value of innocent life was diminished via Roe v. Wade. These same generations have learned a life of entitlement and government dependency. They understand nothing of responsibility and personal accountability. Their default mindset it to abort inconvenient life.

      Any attempt to #stand4life for long term success will have to be accompanied by grass roots educational outreach efforts to educate girls and young women about their fertility cycles and self-respect for themselves both psychologically/spiritually as well as respect for their bodies.

      True empowerment of women leads to respect for life and thus liberty. These pro-abortion protesters were the antithesis of the feminist movement as they protested for the right to tax payer funded gendercide of their own sex regardless of how close to viability that human child in the womb has developed. This is not empowering women, it is empowering a culture of dehumanization of women and our very special role as custodians of innocent life.

  • jetch

    how thoughtful of her. I wonder if she did that for obamacare?!?

  • lonestar

    Why isn’t she complaining about all the other states who restrict abortions to 20 and 24 weeks?

    • NRPax

      Probably because Texas is an easier target at the moment.

      • Darth_Venomous

        That, and the fact that they’re making a big push to turn us into a blue state.

        • NRPax

          One of the reasons I’m trying to move out there for work. I want to balance the scales more.

    • TocksNedlog

      Because they aren’t in the news.

  • StupidAmericaTV

    For all the pro-choicers out there, have you ever watched an abortion being performed? All women who think they want an abortion should have to watch a video of one, then see what they think. As for pregnancies due to rape and incest, there are so few that there aren’t even statistics for them. Seriously, incestuousness sex isn’t an epidemic in America.

    • disqus_hNXvhwdNeI

      1% of abortions are due to rape/incest. 12% are due to other medical reasons. That leaves 87% used as birth control.

      • John Schaffer

        Is it even 1% or is that a matter of rounding up. With more than 50 million abortions in the last 30 years, even a fraction of a percentage is important.

      • Lonnie

        Many years ago, in Oregon, there was a bill introduced that would provide state funding of abortions for low-income women. During the debate, that was extremely volatile on both sides, it was discovered that’s most of the women who qualified for the program and had previous abortions, had at least two. One woman had already had 5 abortions. It was also discovered that middle class and wealthier white women made up nearly all of the women having abortions in the state. I don’t remember the exact percentage, but it was more than 90 percent.

      • ColBatGuano

        What percentage of abortions take place after 20 weeks?

    • disgusted_with_government

      “For all the pro-choicers out there, have you ever watched an abortion being performed?”
      For some in the industry, it became more than they could stomach and subsequently left and became pro-lifers. Dr. Bernard Nathanson was one who made a documentary, “Silent Scream”, about the pain in utero babies make when they are being slaugthered.

      • StupidAmericaTV

        Thanks for the ‘Silent Scream’ reminder. I’ve seen it and couldn’t remember the title, otherwise I would have referenced it.

  • Rob Stevely

    You know she didnt sit down and read the bill. She read something from Huffpo or Dailykos and that makes her think she knows whats in the bill.

  • Kaya Hund

    I think she should have blogged, instead of tweeted.

  • bo1921

    She says, “after reading this bill I feel it is incomplete (and, frankly, sloppy) and it concerns me.”

    Was she concerned about the obamacare bill?

  • mike payton

    Who? I don’t pay attention to Hollywood types that I’ve heard of. Why would I care if this one wanted to kill babies or not? She means less than nothing to me.

  • alanstorm

    Bravo for you, Jenna. You actually put some effort into find out what’s in the bill. You realize, though, that this disqualifies you from ever holding public office.

  • HARP2

    Kudos for reading the bill, but you should have decided LONG before 5 months whether you wanted a child.

    Actually you AND your partner should have never let it conceive in the first place.

    Remember no glove…no love ?

  • Gerard Neumann

    Does Fischer live in Texas? If not, it’s none of her concern

  • Harlan

    So Jenna Fischer thinks that women should be able to indiscriminately kill babies? How does she feel about executing violent criminals?

    • Scott H

      You don’t understand Harlan. The overwhelming Liberal position is to guarantee all innocent unborn babies can be killed at any time so long as no convicted murderer ever is.

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  • Jimmie Robinson

    I also commend Jenna for reading the bill….I had a discussion with 4 liberal Texas women and they continually told me that the bill had nothing to do with abortion..I sent them the link to the bill…I also asked them if they were sorry Gosnell the baby killer, was convicted….i asked them many times…they never answered the question..Just like liberal/democrats, they just kept changing the subject…

  • ShellyB

    Wow. A Hollywood lib who didn’t name call, hate Bush, and soapbox…WITH NO IDEA WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT. I started getting snarky with her because it’s my automatic defense w/ Hollywood libs, but good for her. Like I told her, however, a Hollywood lib is still a Hollywood lib…unless she works to change that. Kudos.

  • lumendelsol

    Why is murdering a human fetus becoming a womans right? Not one birth in this country can take a womans life and threaten it without a doctor being able to very easily fix the problem with a c-section or other remedy, so why all the importance on the ability to terminate a pregnancy when any problems that might arise from said pregnancy can be solved so easily? Less than .03% of women today in America realized pregnancy issues and the abortion side claims its in the millions per day if you believe them. If they make it legal then a mandatory 9 months in jail should be given hand in hand with their newfound freedom. It should serve as a lesson that spreading your legs for a good time comes with consequences.

    • autdrew4real

      I asked the very same question during the whole “war on women” dressing as va jay jays (not sure if there is a moderator for certain words). WHY is it deemed so vital that we be allowed to kill our children with no restrictions AND demand someone else pay for it? Who decided that was a right?
      Yet somehow, despite all the obama nonsense, bad economy hitting women harder than men, etc, they convinced enough women to believe it! I have to wonder if Ann Coulter got it right when she talks about the Church of Liberalism & abortion is their sacrament. Especially among the “hail satan” used tampon, feces throwing crowd.

  • ElbethL

    She lost me when she started going “But what if the baby’s ABNORMAL?!? What THEN?!?”

    Did you know over 90% of all children with a prenatal diagnosis of Down Syndrome are aborted? Does she? How about that children are regularly aborted for treatable/correctable things like spina bifida, club foot, split lip, or cleft palate? So how about this radical thought? Maybe parents should love their children no matter what is “wrong” with them. Maybe we shouldn’t kill children. Whether they’re diagnosed with something before they’re born or not.

    • Richard Korte

      So so very true, when my wife was pregnant she was given that option because there was a “chance” our son would be born with down syndrome. We didn’t care he was our first child and we would love him no matter what and hey he WASNT BORN WITH DOWN SYNDROM, so good food for thought for all those folks that throw in the towel on their kids

    • SturJen

      I completely agree.
      She lost all my new-found respect for her at that moment. It nauseates me to hear those who willingly kill a child before it is born because it is imperfect. I also find it abjectly evil that the first and last interaction between a Mother and a abnormal child is death. They don’t even think that the child is worthy of saying ‘Goodbye’ to. They just have it cut up, sucked out of the womb and they go on their merry way. “Oh sorry your’e abnormal, but my womb -and my love- is only for perfect kids.” Disgusting.

    • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

      That’s my point as well, since a LOT of people I know who are disabled usually vote Democrat… Jawamax 8<{D}

    • alanstorm

      I must disagree with you here.

      1) I do not see that exact quote in the tweets above. She raises questions about the definitions of fetal birth defects, and there is language about “fatal” birth defects (probably meant “fetal”, but there’s some ambiguity there), but not the implication that you allude to, that she would support abortion for any potential abnormality.

      Give her a break! She’s at least making the attempt to understand the issues, which is more than 99% of liberals do. Don’t beat down someone just because they don’t make the leap to your position all in one step. Encourage the baby steps instead.

      • ElbethL

        First, if I wanted to “beat her down” I would reply to her on Twitter, which I haven’t. I have no interest in interacting with her at all. That said, if she visits the site and reads this, I’m not going to feel badly.

        Second, life itself is fatal. Everybody who lives also dies. It’s just a question of when. That being the case, any use of “defects” or “abnormalities” is always going to draw some arbitrary distinction between those who deserves to live and who doesn’t. I will never be down with that.

        • alanstorm

          Let me be more precise: the point I was trying to make is mostly in the last two sentences. It sounds like you (and many others here) would rather snap at an outstretched hand than grasp it. What lesson does that teach the person reaching out?

          • ElbethL

            I knew what you meant. I just, honestly, don’t agree. If I were addressing her, that would be another thing again. But I’m not addressing her. My comments aren’t geared towards her. I have no intention of talking to her at all.

            If I did, though, while I might phrase things differently, the message would be the same: there is no “defect” that justifies killing a child. This isn’t an issue on which there can be compromise.

    • Maria Wehmeyer

      I agree. At 5 months, doctors told me my daughter had something in her brain and that she might have some brain damage. This was found during the ultrasound and then gave me the option to abort. I said no and a month later, nothing showed up in the ultrasound. She is a beautiful and smart 15 year old now.

    • autdrew4real

      agree. My cousin was advised to abort because they claimed her baby didnt have a whole brain! She said no & her daughter is going to college now. Full brain, no defects, nothing wrong with her

  • keyboard jockey

    She can’t understand that they don’t have to re-legislate the definition of fetal abnormalities, but she’s like super smart, because she read this bill? But apparently it’s the only one she’s ever read.

    • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

      If that;s the case, then it’s not just a War on Women-It’s also a war on their Disabled/Handicapped voters, too! Jawamax 8<{D}

  • David Ruiz

    But but but, I thought you had to pass a bill before you read it?!?!?

  • Splinter Cell

    How about getting together with other mentally challenged Liberal Tree huggers and cry over trees? haha.

  • $2943864

    Jenna – the bill is ready and thoughtfully written – more time and brighter (much brighter) minds were spent on it than your one evening tweetfest. You can’t make this stuff up.

  • Nebokenezzer

    Jenna read the bill like she reads a script. Only the parts that matter to her.

  • Jesse Salinas

    I like Pam Halpert on The Office sitcom, Jenna Fischer, not so much. I don’t base my moral, ethical, social, religious or political decisions on the opinions of Hollywood celebrities. At times, very seldom, their views may coincide with mine, but on the issue of life, sexual morality and the constitutional right to life, theirs views and mine hardly ever concur.

  • Bouncerquinn

    Jenna, maybe they could have discussed your concerns, rather than stalling and finally going on a 12+ hour rant trying to prevent a bill from being voted on. That is the problem on the national level as well. Everyone jocking for their biggest spending lobbyist position, rather than an actual debate on the merits of the bill itself!!

  • Journalistsuckthesedays

    She said the bill is”important. Especially for women.” But what about the babies growing inside them? Don’t they matter, too?

  • David Ruiz

    I will never tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her body but I would ask that they consider adoption if they are seeking a late term abortion (not one due to birth defect or other abnormities). I have remarried now but for 4 years I raised my little girl (now 8) on my own, it was tough but worth it. At 22 weeks pregnant her mom sent me a pic from in front of the abortion place and said she was getting an abortion, she just did not want the child. There was nothing I could do but assure her that if she had the baby I would raise it. It did inconvenience (she was in good health) her to carry the child a few more months but after the birth her mom was glad. She sees her mom a couple of times a month and mom has admitted that she is glad she had her. I could not imagine a world without my youngest child. Men cannot relate to what a woman goes through during pregnancy but I also find myself wondering how many women protesting in Austin have actually had an abortion? How many have had an abortion at 22 to 26 weeks? How many have had an abortion after seeing the 3D sonograms? I only ask because I have met many women who confessed that having their abortion left them with some emotional scars.

  • CFH

    I am not a woman, but I was once an unborn baby, and come to think of it so was everyone I’ve ever known. So maybe I can be allowed to have an opinion too?

  • BOStinks2

    Where were you when the Obama Health Care garbage was written? Did you support it after you read it?!

  • 24601

    It’s kinda difficult to express complete thoughts on twitter. You’re better off just saying “look at me! LOL” all the time. Complete thoughts need to be expressed in a blog post and then you can link to it.

    I can at least respect her opinion, even if it is based on the statistical anomalies that are so frequently cited in opposition to such legislation.

    • keyboard jockey

      Her opinion? She’s concern trolling on twitter….let me translate for you: People should read the bill first, and become informed before supporting it. (She’s insinuating that no one but herself has read the bill- what is the bases for that belief?) Obviously you dumb Texas hicks can’t read or comprehend what you all are supporting. That’s not an opinion, that’s a backhanded slap to people who don’t agree with her pro abortion position.

      She continues to concern troll about fetal abnormalities as if it hadn’t been addressed in the legislation. The issue has been addressed under (extreme exemptions). There is no need to re legislate the definition of “Fetal Abnormalities” she’s concerned it’s not broad enough to result in abortion. Otherwise, she really wants the legislation watered down so as to be meaningless.

      She’s devious and obvious, that’s not the same thing as being intelligent and making an informed opinion.

      • 24601

        Well — she’s at least, in her mind being thoughtful about it — or trying to appear thoughtful. I try to give the benefit of the doubt whenever possible. We are fighting against cultural norms after all, so many people are starting from a point that we don’t necessarily consider acceptable.

        • keyboard jockey

          Some people are devious and manipulative, I accept there are those kinds of human beings. I’m not a Pollyanna. I don’t give people anything benefit of a doubt or anything else – they have to prove they are worthy of trust. I don’t trust anyone that supports killing human beings.

  • JohnL1313

    Yes, Jenna, there are health concerns. Particularly for the baby who is about to be sucked out of mommies belly and thrown in the trash under the guise of “choice”.

    • Joe W.

      Lost on the liberal ghouls…..

      • JohnL1313

        Sad but true.

  • jamesben

    I’m sorry, but is this dimwit a TEXAN? What is controversial about bringing Texas into line with a dozen or more other states – AND FRANCE – that this Hollywood fool doesn’t “get?”

    I’m beyond sick of outsiders GETTING INVOLVED in Texas’ business. P*ss off lady.

    • TocksNedlog

      She was born in Indiana and lives in L.A.

  • Julescat

    Jenna is the typical lib hypocrite. She wants to come out against this bill but is afraid it will affect her career. So she justs keeps expressing her “concerns”. Empty skull Jenna had no concerns over Obamacare or any other Obama backed legislation. Also, Jenna didn’t seem to be concerned during the Gosnell trial.

  • EvilRealist

    That’s so cute, how she thinks people care about her thoughts.

  • chas sellers

    it is a life any way you look at it, if you don’t want baby’s don’t spread your legs

  • Marcy Cook

    Where was this idiot when Obamcare was passed?

    “Consider reading the actual bill. Better to be educated than make a decision based on talking heads & news articles.”

  • $29520529

    Jenna, I have a question after reading your tweets. “If a pregnant woman is a defective human being, can we abort the woman and keep the baby?”

    • TocksNedlog


  • moxie

    The war on women is by women! Do they not have a thought in their head that by aborting a baby they are aborting over 50% female babies!

  • Michael David Davis

    Typical celebrity. She’s so very impressed with herself for doing something that is NOT that big a deal. So she ACTUALLY read the bill. So she ACTUALLY wants to engage in intelligent conversation. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Big f*cking deal, I say. I’m so g*d damn sick of celebrities thinking they have some role to play—-they have to be some public voice. As if their ability to pretend in front of a camera somehow makes them all-seeing, all-knowing oracles that the rest of us should ogle and be amazed at. Go f*ck yourselves, you self-important celebrities. And just shut the f*ck up!!!

  • tops116

    “Be the one person who actually read the bill when you go to work tomorrow.”

    Where was that attitude among the Left during Obamacare?

  • Stephen Lowe

    Ah, but Jenna, you know well that it is this present generation that is the most important and above all, all knowing – so much so they can decide who lives and who doesn’t. Most prior generations in civilized societies, had some sort of defect in that they placed their hope in a supreme all knowing being and tried to act virtuously to attain eternal life. Silly them. too bad you weren’t around to enlighten them about the true power and glory of man and the ultimate importance of doing away with sacrifice and suffering with a simple medical procedure.

  • Julius Henry

    I commend her for reading the bill, as a method to justify her no vote, rather than voting no on some platitude.

  • Grandma HeadInjury

    Meh, I won’t fault her on the Obamacare thing. We all change. I am glad to actually see a celeb who presents such a balanced view of (shock!) actually reading the bill. Restores a little faith in humanity….

    • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

      And, she did it without throwing insults, or chanting “Hail Satan!” Jawamax 8<{D}

  • Lonnie

    If only everybody educated themselves before forming opinions on a subject… and I am talking to all you conservatives out there who read a story’s headline and start spouting off slogans just like the liberals do! I wish I had a dollar for every comment I’ve read in the last year where the person made a complete ass of themself because they didn’t read the entire story… that new Porsche Cayman S wouldn’t be just a dream!

  • Jim

    If there is no God then morality is what we make it, an opinion. So if we can kill a baby for a defect, who has done nothing wrong. Under the morality logic it should be ok to kill an adult with a defect, or an old useless person sucking up Government funds, after all morality is in the eyes of the beholder and when enough of the population agrees it becomes law. Scary logic isn’t it?

  • AZWarrior

    So, Smart Girl- Did you read the part about making clinics SAFER, and meeting standards? That would be anti-women!!!

  • Karen Cline-Tardiff

    The 20 week provision is only one piece of this bill. There are many, many more issues involved. On BannedFromPoliteSociety on facebook there is a post dated June 27th which actually gives some information and useful links about 3 other parts of this bill which are troubling. But the bottom line is that government should have no place legislating morality, which is what SB5 is attempting to do. Why are we letting politicians make decisions which should be made between a doctor and a patient?!

    • Proud2bfromtheUSA

      Hmm by this standard that women should be able to do anything they want regardless of who it kills then you are advocating murder because really murder is a morality decision, or perhaps theft? Because the decision to engage in theft is a morality decision. We legislate morality at almost every turn of our lives. you can not seriously think that statement worth making much less defending.
      this is from a recent article at

      Really? We can’t legislate morality? What do you call it when we tell people they can’t murder? Rape? Steal?

      The Ten Commandments: All up in your business since circa 1440 B.C.

      Let’s do some Criminal Justice 101, shall we? There are two types of laws: malum in se and malum prohibitum. Malum in se is a Latin phrase meaning “wrong in itself.” Most of us feel that murder is wrong, therefore there is a law against it. Malum prohibitum means something is wrong because it is prohibited. For example: in the United States we have to drive on the right side of the road, not because driving on the left is inherently evil (I’m lookin’ at you, England!) but because good order meant we had to pick one side. Because we’ve picked right, if you drive on the left, you’re gonna get stopped. Try it, you’ll see.**

      Malum in se laws are based on morality. Our laws here in the U.S. grew out of English Common Law, which in turn was based on Judeo-Christian morality. Now, old-timey English lawmakers did not sit around and go, “Hmmm, what should we base our laws on?” And then come up with the Bible because it had an attractive leather cover. Judeo-Christian morality was a part of the culture since the 7th century, and has in fact formed Western culture, culminating most recently in our humble little former colony, the United States.

      Detractors will say English Common Law formed in the 5th century, before Christianity took hold in Britain. But the law as we know it didn’t stop forming then. Christian men such as Henry de Bracton in the 13th century in England and Sir William Blackstone in the 18th century in the United States have had a tremendous impact on creating the laws we know today.

      Whether you like it or not, the culture that created you is a Judeo-Christian culture. All the things you think are right and wrong were formed by Judeo-Christian principles. Why do you think it’s wrong to have slaves? Western culture is just like most other civilizations in that it engaged in slavery, but unique in that it is solely responsible for ridding the world of it. What about having a harem of concubines? That was common in pre-Christian cultures, not so much in the West today. Sacrificing virgins? No big deal to the pagans, but frowned upon in our time.

      The idea of loving people more than ourselves, sacrificing for the poor, turning the other cheek… these ideas were so revolutionary to the Roman world in which Christianity was born that they were scandalous. The tenets of Christianity made Christians so different they were almost universally hated. They were persecuted and killed all over the Roman Empire, until the Emperor Constantine had a vision. But I digress.

      So those who cry that morals have no place in public policy are a little too late. Judeo-Christian morals created our public policy, created our culture, were the basis for our founding documents, guided the formation of our nation through the beliefs of our founders, and make up the fabric of our society.

      Recently, a postmodern deconstructionist tendency to wipe American law clean of “traditional” morality has created not a sparkling tabula rasa, but a libertine morass. You don’t have to be a Jew or Christian to recognize there is such a thing as right and wrong. Lately, it seems like the only evil people will recognize is believing in evil.

    • TocksNedlog

      “To kill or not to kill the child that is inside me, THAT is the moral question . . .”

  • Mac Guy

    News flash: person asks about bill. Happens to be celebrity.

    Give me a break, Twitchy.

  • marcellucci

    Question: If scientists discover a “gay” gene, will liberals and the MSM still froth at the mouth for gender/sex selective abortion rights?

    • bonnieblue2A

      As long as the double standard is the first rule of Progressivism, yes, likely they will.

  • Vance

    This is PRECISELY why you don’t let elected officials, who know nothing about virtually anything except elections, get their hands intertwined with healthcare. These people (on both sides) are morons.

  • TJ

    If a baby does have a fatal birth defects would they not die soon after birth anyways. Are they just trying to hurry it along and kill it at the only time they could. Who defines what a fatal birth defects is and if they could survive after birth with some surgery why kill them before.

    Life is a fatal birth defects because it results in death 100% of the time. Just because some get a few days and some get 100 years nothing good happens when someone else can define what a fatal birth defects and not let it just its runs course Or even mitigate it with modern medicine.

    They will be able to fine all sorts of predisposed conditions in prenatal DNA that will tell them in 12 year they will have a fatal condition that they need a new set of lungs or have a high lillyhood they will have cancer or even diabetes. So lets abort them so they are not a strain on the healthcare system years after they are born with a fatal birth defects that gives them cystic fibrosis or something.

    • stuckinIL4now

      Considering that the #1 cause leading to death is birth, makes ya’ wonder when libturds who try to prevent birth through abortion will simply try to outlaw birth altogether. Then who will be around to vote for them?

  • John

    Jenna, just stick to being “Pam”, OKAY?! Nobody cares what you think!

    • HWarrior13

      Actually, John. I kinda thought she was asking thought provoking questions. At least she’s attempting to educate herself…not like all the rest of Leftists in Hollywood who merely regurgitate with their liberal friends tell them to.

  • Kristine

    There are European countries that limit abortion to less than 14 weeks. I suppose they all hate women too.

  • American_by_Choice


    Yet another attempt to feign outrage over the potential for a rare exception… when there are MILLIONS of defenseless babies being torn to shreds, where the potential for exception is that the baby might survive.

    ENOUGH of this nonsense.

    You made a choice to engage in the behavior DESIGNED to promote conception, you carried the child for 20 weeks… these were your CHOICES.

    You’re responsible for that life… TAKE IT, bear your responsibility…

    Those of you who feel threatened by this “HATE” can avoid the entire problem by simply taking your reproductive rights, which are BASED UPON YOUR BIOLOGICAL RESPONSIBILITIES: SERIOUSLY.

    You act as if someone is trapping you into something.


    Your CHOOSING POORLY does NOT give you a right to take the life of YOUR CHILD, conceived through your CHOICE.

    • Scott47

      The left’s war on babies is all about being free not to be responsible for there sexual indescretions. Oh that’s right 1% of abortions are rape, let’s focus on that.

  • Mary Lee

    I would like to commend Ms. Fischer on being reasonable and not using watchwords and slogans. I think she’s really just trying to figure things out. She didn’t call anyone names, she didn’t make any excuses, she just asked questions. If the rest of Hollywood were this thoughtful about things, maybe we could actually GET somewhere on this issue.

  • Scott47

    The left is so brainwashed about a “war on women” that they have a hard time hearing reality. Glad she read it but as you can see, its hard to admit you were ill-informed/incorrect so salvage your pride and say it still needs more…. we have to keep women’s rights ahead of a person who feels pain apart from the mother in the womb. These women remind me of men in the 1800’s. They wanted there way to the exclusion of womens rights. Maybe they will progress as they find the courage to deal with science in relation to the viability of the baby…..we are self centered by nature.

  • sam rockwell

    Was there a problem with Texas clinics providing unsafe abortions? Ask Douglas Karpen.

  • HWarrior13

    Whatever your stance I’m impressed that at minimum she is actually READING the bill. That alone makes her opinion more worthy than Nancy Pelosi

    • stuckinIL4now

      So now will she read ALL legislation and just make her spin more?

      • HWarrior13

        Guess we’ll have to wait and see.

  • capnjack43

    My concern is the information she is relying on accurate.

  • Barbara

    Well I wonder if Jenna would consider the fact that at 20 weeks, you can tell if the baby is a boy or a girl, since these so called women are so hell bent on protecting the rights of Women, Should a mother be force to carry to term if it is a female versus a male? Let us really get in to this dicussion you have a whole gender of a species deciding the fate of another becuase if you think it is okay to abort at 20 weeks than you just think it is okay to abort period. So when will the gender of the baby come into play? It already does! Listening to the rambelings of this moron is pointless, she is an actress and pretends for a living..Please, Jenna, go be concerned about abortion in your state. People in Texas are normal. They scream of coat hangers and then want to continue the practice of the like of Kermit Gosnell forget true safe access.. Really!
    Truth Alert if Wendy Davis is allowed to continue bussing union thugs in to Austin, to shut down debate.. She will continue to be funded by the unregulated planned parenthood clinics wih their pails full of dead babies.. to fund the democrates this is about safe for Wendy Davis it is about the possible loss of funding her re-election..

  • suz73

    This whole abortion issue is disgusting, vile and evil. Children are no longer viewed as a gift from God, a miracle of cells separating into billions of other cells to form a new human being. They are viewed as possessions and property that if these women don’t want it, just get rid of it. What happened to personal responsibility? Selfish, selfish, selfish!! I know that’s a general sweep, but where have we gone so wrong in society today? My neighbor had a beautiful Down’s syndrome daughter. Full of love, laughter and was a delight to be around. She was a gift. Keep your legs together females (I can’t call them ladies)!! Birth control, self-control, abstinence, whatever it takes don’t make the children (babies) pay for your mistakes.

  • TocksNedlog

    “One last question, was there a problem with TX clinics providing unsafe abortions?”
    — What, is her Google broken? Some ‘researcher’.

    • RememberSekhmet

      Google Douglas Karpen

  • bossmanham

    If 50.8% of the nation are women, then wouldn’t that statistic be similar in the numbers of women babies who are ripped apart in the womb?

    • TocksNedlog

      Gotta remember the (unspoken) leftist mantra: “Out of sight, out of mind.”

      • bonnieblue2A

        The pro-abortionists have evolved on the Leninist “if you want to make an omelet you have to break a few eggs” mantra to: if women are to have complete equality to behave as badly as men with sexual irresponsibility then they must have the right to rip apart limb by limb tens of thousands of human fetuses.


  • Proud2bfromtheUSA

    As Liberals go this is a well reasoned and informed discussion. I am very glad she has at least read the bill.

  • Dandee

    Wow, wonder if the worldly Jenna has ever been to Ireland? That must be some war on women over there, where they let female babies get born.

  • DList

    The 50.8 percent quote is another Leftist assumption that all women think alike.

  • Hal Fast

    She may have read it, but did she read obamacare? Did the party she voted for read obamacare? Is she for a party that booed God on their platform, for abomination marriage, and for paid assassinations at babybutchershops like planned babykillinghood. Of course she more than likely is and yes her opinion is heavily slanted left and political, so she just lied.

    Did she research and watch how the butcher men kill babies in the babybutchershops? She should and you can see it just by Googling it. Research that, and tweet about it. P.S. God of the living bible. – the ultimate Authority, not man, said He knew us before we where even conceived, and wove us in our mother’s womb, so according to God, not man, anytime after conception is murder period.

  • TocksNedlog

    Word to the Jenna, ABORTION is a ‘birth defect’ with a 100% fatality rate. (Okay, 99%, but the Gosnell’s of this world have found a solution for that.)

  • DList

    Where has Ms Fischer been all these years? Politicians passing bills they havn’t read or little understand with fuzzy language is nothing knew. I don’t remember her being this concerned about Obamacare. Still, that fact someone in Hollywood is actually reading is a good sign. Reading and looking at facts can only hurt the Liberal cause.

  • Hal Fast

    Amazing how those for abortion at any point in time of the pregnancy, already made it out of the womb, and are making life and death decisions based on what they feel is appropriate for another innocent and defenceless human being that hasn’t made it out of the womb yet. Hum?

  • mahtinw

    Where was her advice when say obamacare was being pushed down our throats?

  • Mort McSnerd

    And anyone cares what this person has to say, why, again? She’s just an actress. Why does it matter WHAT she tweets?

  • Katie Jean Valentine

    I hate it when celebrities whom I love tweet about political issues. I just always want to remember her as Pam Beesly Halpert. And ambiguous tweets mess with my mind and the world of Dunder Mifflin that I hold on to.
    I really do love though that she actually read it. Because the problem has been that the headlines have said that it bans abortion….. and then people stop reading. No one stops to read that it’s after the 5 month mark or that it will make clinics as safe as surgical centers.

  • NCRelite

    our abortion laws are quite liberal compared to many countries in Europe, which limit abortions to 12 weeks after conception

  • Dave Suchy

    go to those liberal european countries and watch American liberals’ heads spin when they see limits at 12-14 weeks.

  • alvinjh

    50.8%of the babies killed are female.

  • pabarge
  • liverighteous

    It’s not until approx. 5 months (20 wks) that you can discern the gender of the baby. I believe many woman abort, NOT for health issues, but because they are not happy with the gender and that’s why there is such a delay in them making the decision. It’s disgusting! This new law should bring an end to that sort of selective genderization.

    • American_by_Choice

      Man, that would make those people, MONSTERS!

      I hope you’re wrong, but I fear that you’re not…

      • liverighteous

        My daughter is approaching 5 months with her pregnancy and that’s when they do the gender ultrasound. I saw on a medical program where a pregnant woman went into the emergency room complaining of stomach pains. They performed an ultrasound to check the baby, told her the gender, and she got VERY upset and just left the hospital. She went to the emergency room with the stomach complaint for the sole purpose of having the ultrasound done to learn of the baby’s gender. That’s when it hit me and I got an answer to the question as to why a woman would wait soooo long to abort, because health issues can be detected prior to 20 weeks. When the realization hit me about gender selectivity, my heart sunk like a brick.

        • American_by_Choice

          Wow… that is horrifying.

          That shows us the answer to the “HOW could this happen?”, the eternal question which always revolve around histories and events such as “The holocaust” and the “The Killing Fields”

          It speaks to the lower strata of humanity, which you and I know as ‘evil’.

          We recognize that such is to be discouraged, while the, moderate, centrist, independent, liberal, progressive, socialists… promote it as the purest essence of ‘freedom’, which can only lead to the ruination of civilization and nothing short of bondage.

        • Secede

          That crap happens every single day in the ER- and you get to pay for it.

        • Secede

          That crap happens every single day in the ER- and you get to pay for it.

  • Goodbye MyGhost

    An enemy would want abortions, gleefully. wouldn’t you smile upon your enemies abortions!

  • Quiet_Righty

    “This is not political for me.”

    Like hell it isn’t.

  • Steven Fairless

    You can believe Jenna or real Doctors

  • jojo0073

    Glad to see she actually made a decision after reading and learning rather than (in her words) make a “knee jerk” reaction. Agree or disagree with her, she did her homework, congratulations Jenna Fischer, no matter which side of the isle you stand on, i respect you for being prepared and doing your homework.

  • SunGodAZ

    Stop with all the “keep your laws off my uterus” crap…I believe a woman has the right to do with her DNA, whatever she wants…the “baby” is not her DNA. It’s different and THAT is what make the individual. Why is this SO difficult to understand?

  • Zathras11 @B5

    Jenna said: “…It does, however, disturb me that a bill would declare inaccurate medical information.”

    Like the Affordable Care Act?

    That said, she is fairly thoughtful, which I can appreciate.

  • Mark A. Griffin

    Maybe if we helped to instill dignity and respect into women, they would not get themselves into this situation. Bring back morality. God help us when we argue over abortion at 20 weeks or 28 weeks.

  • C.d. Gibson

    Simple really. Those who do not LIKE the Texas bill should stay out of Texas. Go to California or New York & have your abortion at 9 months. Hell, abort the kid when it’s 6 months old. How about 2 years old? Tired of it? Call it an abortion & get rid of it.

  • R.D. Williams

    Scientists offer differing opinions on when a baby first feels pain. So it all depends on who’s report you want to believe. Too many times, information is credited as “scientific fact”, when it’s all theory. For me, the opinion of the abortionist who became a pro life advocate because he couldn’t take the slaughter any more, is a pretty good source for expertise on the subject. He saw, heard, felt, and experienced, first hand the pain an infant goes through when being killed. I already know in my mind and heart that babies feel pain. This doctor just confirms that.

  • Right Wired

    “50.8% of the United States is made up of women.”

    It would been more, but you know, abortion.

    • bonnieblue2A

      To be accurate, gender specific abortion = gendercide.

  • RememberSekhmet

    At least she read the bill. Something most of the Pumpkinettes in Austin haven’t done.

  • Janet Silverstein

    She was being thoughtful and educated herself and spoke her mind based on this, not calling names, not denigrating others. My problem is in the article she quotes regarding birth defect detection is a little misleading. First, Anecephaly was quoted as a birth defect not detected until 20 weeks with an ultrasound. Not true. It is where the brain does not develop and essentially only has a brainstem. It can be detected between 11 and 14 week. What really is the case is most insurance companies won’t pay for an ultrasound until 20 weeks. That article says “reliable ultrasound pictures are present and paid by insurance only around 20 weeks of gestation”
    Regarding Patau Syndrome, it can be detected by other tests earlier in 10 weeks. From “A newly available DNA-based prenatal blood test that can identify a pregnancy with Down syndrome can also identify two additional chromosome abnormalities: trisomy 18 (Edwards syndrome) and trisomy 13 (Patau syndrome). The test for all three defects can be offered as early as 10 weeks of pregnancy to women who have been identified as being at high risk for these abnormalities.” There are many tests that can detect defects and abnormalities far earlier than, but not covered by insurance. Therefore, she should direct her concerns to maybe changing insurance testing reimbursement and testing guidelines/coverage for pregnancies rather than using this false premise that many defects show up in the infant or test after 20 weeks.

  • Ironhawk86

    Yeah. I’m calling BS on all of this. This Hollywood skank didn’t read crap and you all who believe her might be interested in this beachfront property I have in Kansas.

  • Jason Priestley

    Uhh.. I’ve never heard of this girl in my life.

  • Kat

    A fetus can feel pain at 20 weeks or even earlier, where is she getting her medical information?

  • Kathy Fugitt Price Skaggs

    At least she ask questions but she needs to be careful she is not given untruthful medical information. A Child can feel pain before 28 weeks.

  • Rulz

    Long lectures on twitter lose my interest, especially when they deviate from the original post to support a left-wing agenda.

    “50.8% of the United States is made up of women. We will be watching you tomorrow Texas.”

    Let me guess—all women are pro-choice just like all African-Americans support Obama and all GLTBQ folks want legalized “gay marriage.”

  • Jer

    Presumably, Ms. Fischer was and is this concerned with lawmakers reading the Affordable Care act and the Gang of Eight’s amnesty bill.

  • Guest

    Jenna idiot, yes, Gosnell like clinics were found in Texas, which is why the bill was introduced in the first place. As for clinics closing, Abortion is such big business, they will meet the new standards to the minimum and carry on as usual.

  • kevin Golike

    again another person who totally dismisses the baby,all about the woman right? why is it people who are for abortion cannot talk about the baby that is killed?

  • kevin Golike

    oh ya the way you feel about this bill? well magnify that a thousand times and you will feel like i did when Pelosi said we have to pass it in order to find out whats in it. i dont think i have ever had such a instinctive reaction to slap some one as at that point in my life.

  • Selma Birch

    She is wrong about her claim that the fetus does not feel pain until 28 weeks, that is what old science said but the new science shows that it is as early as 20 weeks. If she wants educated discussion, she needs to make sure the data she claims is accurate!! Also every state has had issues with the standard of care at abortion facilities, this is not just a Texas issue. For some reason we have not held abortion clinics to the same standards as other clinics and it is nice to see that change because women deserve save medical care.

  • $299288

    Why can’t women master birth control? It’s not rocket science!

  • David Elliot

    So, if I murder someone, a neighbor, a stranger, without them feeling pain, it’s okay?

  • Ms Elizabeth

    from a Pro-life view point. I am not trying to change the mind of a pro-abortionist. This is for someone who is openminded or is searching for solutions.

    This is what I got from her questions and concerns: Problems that arise after 20 wks and changing where abortions are administered. .

    First, she assumes the writers of that law did not consult with Physicans or experts in that field. Are we not allowed to change or remove laws based on experiences and lessons learned from tragedies that have happened?

    Second, she is worried some abnormal problem may occur, So does that mean a child who is not PERFECT, does not have the right to be born. I can sympathise with a female who does not believe they have what it takes to raise a child with abnormal problems. I for one would not force her to do so. I do know and have seen this, there are people who can and are willing to love and care for a child with special needs. Plus, I have seen many functioning and successful people who have special needs.

    Thirdly, I wonder is she know that these clinics are not inspected on a yearly basis as is most medical facilities and even salons. I am sure she does not watch FOX news, otherwise she would have known what happened at the Gosnell Abortion Clinic. No, we don’t know if that has happened here, since there are not inspections and no one has come out of the closet. Do we want to take that chance. Now since inspections already occur at medical clinics, it would save time and money for TEXANS. Of course, this may mean Planned Parenthood would loose federal government money for abortions or money from the patient. I think Planned Parenthood is more than capable of raising donated money from the private sector for the health care of all those women who are too poor to afford care for their women issues. I know there are lots of women who would more than willing to donate their time and money.

  • James

    was she tweeting READ THE BILL when BO-care was being debated?

  • Dave Ferro

    She read *this* bill… Wonder if she read the Obamacare bill???

  • ray

    More abortions means fewer liberals. All for it.

  • silverzone

    Oh God! As long as person doesn’t feel pain it’s ok to kill? Interesting that when we talk about life and say there was a life on mars because we see some traces of bacteria on some stupid rock, THAT’S LIFE, but human being 20 weeks old is not life yet. Beyond stupidity.

  • Adam Cooper

    A quote from Greg Gutfeld from Fox News’ The Five and Red Eye “It sucks to be born when it’s inconviant.” He may have worded it differantly but, he said it something like that.

  • Dragomance

    It must really suck having such little reading comprehension.He never said that women are evil,just the ones who will kill their child after it can feel pain.

  • vphilly

    So let’s see, real civil discourse is too much for you, right? You prefer the simplicity of the foolish drive by comment, which relieves you of actually having to think about what anyone writes or to engage anyone in actual dialogue. You skim what someone writes, then come up with the lowest possible thing you can think of, post it and then pat yourself on the back, as if you’ve somehow bested everyone else. There’s no one quite so foolish as a liberal who doesn’t know the limits of his own intelligence.

  • Grandma HeadInjury

    He’s actually speaking from the experience of all the ones who have laughed at him…

  • sickofitall1096

    BSA – the Carrie of the twitchy world…”they’re all gonna laughter at you” and all probably have

  • Stephen L. Hall

    BSA excels at the drive-by comment. But they are occasionally funny. Not this one, but occasionally.

  • Guest

    Did you actually read the comment BSA was replying to? Instead of wondering if maybe there were birth defects or complications that only became apparent after 5 months of pregnancy, SF muses if maybe women are just sadists. BSA basically just distilled SF’s long argle-bargle down to its essence.

  • Grandma HeadInjury

    Hey look, everyone! BSA signed out and came in as a “guest”! How quaint.

  • $21590057

    You are starting your argument from a false premise. Here’s what happened, in order.

    JF actually read the bill, determined that there are, indeed, medical provisions for cases where fetal abnormalities aren’t discovered in the first 5 months. However, she opposes the bill, because she feels it’s not clear enough.

    SF wondered aloud why anyone would want to wait past 5 months to decide to abort a healthy baby with no abnormalities, who can now definitely feel pain. He considers that, perhaps it’s sadism.

    BSA is, I think, trying to be ironic and claim that SF is accusing all women of being evil, when clearly SF was only talking about the small portion of women who decide to kill their child when they can probably already feel its movements in their womb.

    My conclusion: BSA is trying to distract from SF’s point and does a poor job of it. And he did a nice job of distracting some of you, probably because you’re looking at all arguments for something to prove your point, instead of considering both sides.

  • Darth_Venomous

    Sockpuppet much, BSA-hole?

  • alanstorm

    No, he didn’t. He tried to equate a simplistic blanket statement about all women for one regarding a hypothetical, specific subset of the sex. Did YOU read the comment?

  • vphilly

    Oh hi BSA. Decided to come back and justify your stupidity anonymously, I see. First, you deleted your original comment though. Good thinking! That won’t look suspicious at all!

  • alanstorm

    Assumes facts not in evidence. I see he occasionally TRIES to be funny, but I have not seen him succeed yet.

    Based on the evidence, I hold out no hope of ever seeing it, either.

  • effinayright

    You need to tell us why, if it’s only the business of Texas and its citizens, the national news media has pumped the story day after day.

    If it’s just local news, why do that?

    Short answer: because legislation like this can have effects nationally — just as RomneyCare did.


  • Jer

    Appending “QED” to the end of a simple argument makes you sound a bit pretentious and silly, like maybe you were typing in a lab coat. If you prove your point, you don’t really have to then proclaim “I PROVED MY POINT.”

  • effinayright

    Then why do mathematicians do it? Why do logicians do it?

  • Jer

    I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you were Euclid or Spinoza. Mathematicians and logicians traditionally sometimes do it in a formal proof. They aren’t pretentious Twitchy commentators verbally sticking their tongue out at someone.

  • effinayright

    Your comments are nothng more than breezy and unsupported assertions.

    As for Euclid: I knew Euclid. Euclid was a friend of mind. You, sir, are no Euclid.


  • Jer

    You know nothing about what I know and don’t know, and your response is nothing more than unsupported assertions without the breeziness, and adding QED to it is like putting a cherry on a turd. So yeah, say hi to Euclid for me. I hear he’s doing pretty well for a 2,300 year old.

  • effinayright

    Too young, TOO UNEDUCATED, to get the Euclid reference, eh?

    It figures.

  • Jer

    I’m talking about the Greek mathematician known as the Father of Geometry, having learned about him approximately 33 years ago when I was ten. I don’t know what Euclid you’re talking about, but you’ve just successfully proved that idiocy knows no age.