Hilarious: Rep. Gowdy’s snarky Schumer slam scores

Hee hee! Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) appeared on “Fox News Sunday” on Sunday morning.

Those who did tune in were treated to a delightful zinger on Sen. Schumer’s “concern” for the GOP.

More from Hot Air:

Rep. Trey Gowdy offers a fine moment of snark before getting down to business on immigration reform on Fox News Sunday. John Roberts opens the segment by asking Gowdy about Senator Chuck Schumer’s advice to Republicans to quickly pass the Gang of Eight bill in order to survive over the next several years.  Gowdy declines to take Schumer’s advice, and instead insists that the House will take a border-security-first approach (via RCPand Scott Johnson)

He then schools Schumer on why the Senate’s Gang of  Eight immigration bill will not pass in the House.

Hot Air also has video of the sarcastic slam: Must-see TV!

Trying to concern troll, Sen. Schumer? Guess again!

Bam!

Citizens once again love what Gowdy is putting down:

Indeed. Gowdy also hinted that there is more to come on the Lois Lerner pleading of the Fifth debacle. Gowdy has fiercely, and rightly, savaged the IRS for its targeting of conservatives, its bloated bureaucracy and wasteful spending, and its “character issue.

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Rep. Trey Gowdy: More hearings on Benghazi ‘coming quickly,’ will be ‘explosive’ 

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  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I think Gowdy’s name needs to start being mentioned in the list of 2016 hopefuls especially if Cruz decides not to run.

    • OneThinDime

      Be careful, Gowdy has hinted many times about amnesty and citizenship. That is unconstitutional and violates Rule of Law.

      • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

        I don’t think he will vote for the Senate bill though, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he will do the right thing until he proves me wrong. Anyone whom he represents should still call him and let him know they don’t support the bill though, I’m willing to bet he would listen unlike Rubio or Graham.

        • OneThinDime

          Whether he votes on the Senate bill, amnesty is the same thing, a free pass for violating our borders, our rule of law and that puts him in the same group with Graham, McCain and the other Senate GangBangers.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            While I agree with the sentiment, saying he wants reform is a lot different than spearheading it and voting on it. If he does I will be the first one to call him out on it.

          • OneThinDime

            I understand what you are saying but Gowdy is the Immigration Subcommittee chair so it ALL goes through him for blessing.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            But as Adela above me says, it isn’t something he is actively pursuing and unlike Rubio or Graham he wants border security first before anything is done with citizenship. It isn’t what I agree with because I am with you on no amnesty period, but it isn’t fair to compare him to RINOs like Graham since he doesn’t want border security on the back burner. I honestly don’t think he will go along with any bill that puts amnesty at the forefront though I could be wrong.

          • OneThinDime

            He will receive the House GangBanger bill which equals the Senate’s, says Rule of Law outside one side of his mouth and Amnesty out the other side of his mouth. Just sneakier than Graham and calls Graham a dear friend.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Let’s not make assumptions about things that haven’t happened yet. Gowdy is a good conservative as of right now so he deserves the benefit of the doubt. I’m not going to bash him for things he hasn’t done yet, that is my bottom line.

          • OneThinDime

            This is the 2nd time he has spoken of Amnesty. Waiting until the bill is passed is too late. Gowdy must have his feet held to the fire like the rest of the GOP. Ignoring early warning signals is why we are always betrayed by the GOP.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Talking about an issue and being diplomatic on a TV show is different that voting on a bad bill though. He might be feeling pressure from the party too which is why I’m all for contacting him and letting him know what you think.

      • Adela Wagner

        At around 4:30 on the vid he starts talking about NOT having a blanket amnesty for all. He talks about children brought here as babies, he talks about background checks, he talks about criminals, about a child who has been here since the age of 10 compared to someone only here 30 weeks.He talks about any kind of amnesty being the last thing worked out AFTER border security and getting the law straight with local and state governments being clear on what the rule of law is and how it will be followed.

        He points out the Senate bill basically wants to just give it across the board.

        One thing I know for sure. It does not matter what McCain nor Schumer say, Republicans cannot go into this thinking it will save the party. True Conservatives are SICK of this Neo-Con crap. And no matter what anyone says, if you give all these ILLEGAL ALIENS amnesty along with a welcome wagon basket from the republican party, they are NOT going to vote republican. So do it because it may be wrong to send someone back who has lived here their whole life, or you don’t want to break up a family or you really love taco’s, but don’t do it because you think it’s gonna get you some votes from them.

        • OneThinDime

          Amnesty for anyone violates our federal laws. His “Humanity” “Faith leaders” is just crap. Deport the b@stards, every single one of them. They violate our laws every day they are illegally in our country.

          Check out Mark Levin’s approach! Let Gowdy argue why this shouldn’t be America’s law! http://dailyrushbo.com/absolutely-stunning-mark-levin-details-mexican-immigration-law/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

          • Adela Wagner

            I’m the last one for Amnesty. my mother came here from Cuba back in the late 50’s and became a citizen. Amnesty is a slap in the face to every legal immigrant in this country. My 12th great grandfather is Francis Cooke, I am a direct descendent from the Mayflower and I am VERY protective of this country and our way of life.

            And I agree, Mex Immigration Law SHOULD be put on the floor of both houses.
            I am just saying that Gowdy is NOT for Amnesty period. And I plan to send him a link to that article.

          • OneThinDime

            Thank you to your family for coming to America legally. Your family is who we WANT to immigrate. Reagan’s 1986 amnesty caused HUGE problems and now we have 11+million more of them. Yes amnesty is a slap in the face to those that followed the immigration laws AND those of us born here!

            Love Levin’s proposal and is the ONLY thing, besides Gowdy’s enforcement by local and state officials bill that should be considered by the House.

          • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

            One thing to remember too about the “Reagan Amnesty” is that it was pressed on him, largely by Democrats, with the promise that as SOON as it was done, they’d tighten up that ol’ border and make sure illegal immigrants were never a problem again.

          • OneThinDime

            Reagan’s 1984 POTUS debate begs to differ. Reagan was pushing amnesty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfHKIq5z80U

          • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

            As I understand it, it was due largely to pressure from Democrats who offered assurances in return that they would act to secure the borders.

            “According to Ronald Reagan himself, as told to his trusted long-time friend and U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese, the biggest mistake of his presidency was signing the 1986 amnesty for what turned out to be more than half the five million illegal immigrants in the country. Reagan was uncomfortable with the amnesty but was persuaded by some of the leaders of his own party (still living) that it would only affect a small number of illegal immigrants and would assure that Congress would follow through with more vigorous enforcement of U.S. immigration laws. The misnamed Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 was touted by its supporters as “comprehensive immigration reform” that would grant amnesty only to a few long-settled immigrants and strengthen border security and internal immigration enforcement against employers who were hiring illegal immigrants.”

            http://www.vdare.com/posts/ed-meese-says-reagan-regretted-1986-amnesty

            The real issue here, as I see it, isn’t the “amnesty” part so much as the prospect that this is just one more opportunity for liberals/progressives to exploit, to lie to conservatives and Republicans, and to continue their assault on our national integrity. Or to use an cliche, let us beware of Greeks, and Democrats, bearing gifts.

          • OneThinDime

            It’s always easier to backtrack when you find out the illegal aliens vote for the Dems as they did in the US. If you listen to him in the You Tube, he was the amnesty champion. He did NOTHING to seal the border, stop the amnesty or rescind the citizenship when the illegal aliens became public charges (remains illegal today) all were within his power as POTUS.

          • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

            Note too, it was not a “blanket” amnesty, or was not meant to be. Please read the above carefully, and understand what Reagan believed himself to be advocating.. And I seriously question your assessment of what powers are in the President’s hands to do any of what you charge him with “failing” to do, particularly with a hostile Congress.

          • OneThinDime

            I know full well what the 1986 amnesty law had in it. Reagan had tremendous power. He believed the amnestied Hispanics would vote Republican. Research his son, he still spews that, the GOP still spews that. The POTUS has veto power and could have vetoed every bit of spending on that amnesty and failed to do so. He pimped for votes and lost. In fact, he doomed this country to millions of illegal aliens and tens of millions more now that are destroying the US.

          • nc

            Legal immigrants that followed the law to come here are the best!

          • OneThinDime

            Yes they are an NO ONE should slap them or US-born citizens in the face by rewarding those that violate our laws EVERY SINGLE DAY with their illegal presence.

          • Cactus Pete

            My mother and her parents and family immigrated from Mexico abt 1915 and waited to be allowed in. They did it the legal way and I do not want anyone that is here illegally to get amnisty, period. Pass a law retroactively that all anchor babies are not legal citizens.

          • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

            Thank you and your folks for being here, and for doing it right.

          • nc

            The voices of legal immigrants like those of your family have been nearly drowned out in this debate. Where is YOUR representation?

            I also agree that any “amnesty” agreement without eliminating the anchor baby bennie for illegals is worthless. It’s the number one magnet.

          • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

            God bless your mother! I’m glad she made it, and I’m glad she blessed the world with you! You are quite right, although I could understand and accept a limited “amnesty” for extraordinary circumstances, this massive “Aw gee whiz, folks, forget about it, come on in!” is, as you say, an insult to everyone now and in the past who followed the rules.

    • OneThinDime
    • Bill

      Absolutely AGREE!! He was the ONLY one on the IRS panel who caught the fact that Lerner plead the 5th – then proclaimed she was innocent. Gowdy cried foul immediately! He has been a bulldog for conservative and truly deserves recognition for his work!

    • Bill Board

      Gowdy/Cruz or Cruz/Gowdy in 2016. (Got it RNC? NO MORE moderate RINO’S!)

    • mapache

      In my 2016 fantasy administration Gowdy could be AG (If Mark Levin and Judge Napolitano are unavailable)

    • TocksNedlog

      Senators and governors get elected President; congressmen do NOT. He needs to become a Senator first.

      • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

        Whatever experience he has it is more than what Obama had.

        • TocksNedlog

          No argument, there.

          But that fact won’t get him elected.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            I honestly don’t think being a Senator would make that big of a difference either to tell you the truth, at least to the low information voter.

    • nibblesyble

      Yeeeeesss! Agree 100%

  • http://apostrophejones.com/ Gloves Donahue, Jr.

    Gowdy needs to replace Lindsey Graham, that cracka.

    • Marcy Cook

      Don’t you mean that “crazy ass cracka?”

      • http://requiem-for-a-spartan.tumblr.com/ Kenny Boyd

        *creepy ass cracka

        • Marcy Cook

          HA HA HA HA….I stand corrected Kenny. Although I think I’d rather be crazy ass than creepy ass. LOL

  • mickeyco

    Great. He can give one of the most sane, emotional testimonies ever heard in the House and he can snark with the best of them. Can’t he be Speaker till a better job opens up?

  • NixTyranny

    Too bad SC has open primaries where Dems can cross over to keep their good friend, Lindsey Graham, as the Repub Senate nominee. Without such an open primary, Gowdy would be able to do us all a favor and knock Lindsey “McCain Jr” Graham out of the US Senate.

  • fishydude

    Reid: “Don’t throw me in the briar patch.”
    Okay, we won’t. What an idiot. Their desperation is showing.
    Does he really think we can be filed again? Given that history shows voters to have very short memories, it is no guarantee that enough voters do remember 1986 shamnesty.
    No amnesty EVAH! Force the securing of the borders, allow states full autonomy to enforce federal law when the sitting administration refuses to. Sovereignty is not an issue of international affairs. It is a states rights issue.

  • David Shrock

    Trey Gowdy for DOJ.

  • Roadster73

    Schumer reminds me of when, worried about the GOP’s future, Stephen Douglas advised Lincoln to drop the slavery issue off his platform [sarc]

    • V the K

      The really sad part is that dupes like Landslide McCain, Lindsey Graham, and The Rube really believe that Chuck Schumer is trying to help the Republican Party.

  • Taylor Brown

    I repeat myself, “Can we all just have a quick moment of silence to honor Trey Gowdy?”

  • OneThinDime

    ICYMI – Gowdy on Amnesty = Humanity He is as pro-amnesty, legalization & citizenship for illegal aliens as Grahamnesty, ignores US citizens, our rule of law. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PdFI9ph20s&feature=c4-overview&list=UUVvxvugtuNZSygB4z4aVfsg

    • nc

      Thank you!

      Updated entry: I just now read what OTD wrote about TG being pro-amnesty – What? I had said thank you for the clip because I hadn’t seen it and I just jumped to it and watched it. Gowdy isn’t pro-amnesty, not in my book.

      Thank God for the edit button.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Bovard/100002018291560 David Bovard

    Im from Ga. but hunt S.C. Carolina and i really like and admire this MAN; Mr. Congressman Gowdy. What we the PEOPLE of the U.S.A need in the White House.

    • http://discus.com yourmamatoo

      Exactly.
      We do not need another , chicken chit rhino, who is too pc for their own good.

  • neoface

    It’s great to know that someone in congress admitting to the senate immigration bill is nothing but smoke and mirror. So glad to have Gowdy and Cruz in our congress, both have spine and balls. Please keep on fighting for “We the people”, something that is amiss in the senate. Check and balance within three branches of government????

  • gekkobear

    If the Democrats don’t get 11 million more voters on their side, they’ll surely win. The only hope of beating the Democrats is making sure they have these 11 million votes ASAP so they’ll lose.

    Because in an election, more votes mean you lose.. I guess. When did that change again?

  • bittman

    I hope Trey Gowdy primaries Lindsey Graham and wins.

  • James McEnanly

    The only reason I could see for Chuck Schumer to keep some form of the Republican party alive would be as a permanent scapegoat for when things go wrong, as they are certain to do. Otherwise, any debate would be like a Jeff Dunham routine.

  • OldmanRick

    The twins, Schumer and Scary Kerry, are peas in a pod – all mouth, no substance.

  • Jeremy

    Schmuck Shumer can take his concern trolling and shove it where the sun don’t shine.

    • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

      Chuck the Schmuck should go back to New York City, and get MUGGED by P!$$ED-OFF VOTERS! Jawamax 8<{D}

  • Kandylynn

    Representative Gowdy is a great American! I love this guy! He stands for all the right things.

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    Trey Gowdy should run for POTUS in 2016 or 2020….Give Washed-Up-Town a thorough scrubbing,. from top to bottom! #RightWard Jawamax 8<{D}

    • BAW

      I’m on the, “Plse, Rep. Gowdy. Primary Lindsey Graham!” bandwagon.

  • dodgergirl88

    I caught that segment with Representative Gowdy and laughed so hard when he said that. What a great line. With such dry humor and tongue in cheek, he told the truth about Chuck Schumer in that one zinger then Schumer has said in his whole life. I love Trey Gowdy.

  • V the K

    And here we see the renowned wit and intellect of the Progressive Left on full display.

  • ObamaFail

    Yet you libs think that terrorist supporting cunt Hillary Clinton has any kind of chance? Anybody who votes for her after she helped try to cover up an act of terrorism is terrorist supporting trash.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    “he’s a douchebag”

    You would be the expert on being a douchebag.

  • Gallatin

    Yes we know all about obowmao, however we are talking about Trey Gowdy.

  • Jeremy

    you are very dumb.

  • trixiewoobeans

    I’m humiliated for you that you said such a ridiculous thing…. not really.

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    Well, your mom has taught you well, I see.

  • B E USA (D)

    Move along Anita Bryant

  • RedSoloCup

    Says the moron with an IQ beat by a lightbulb.

  • ObamaFail

    You liberals never have an intelligent thought, do you? You guys just get so upset any time someone doesn’t bow at the feet of the America hating trash in the White House. You libs always get upset at the thought that maybe your Democrat losers aren’t looking out for America. You welfare leeching scum will eventually not be able to get your checks. Because if the Democrats have their way, we’ll be a third world country by 2020.

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    Ooh, look folks! Liberal intellectualism at its very best!

  • RedSoloCup

    Speaking of experience, OrangeJackass?

  • NCRelite

    scratch a liberal find a bigot. what’s in your wallet?™

  • Adela Wagner

    I like a politician who stays close to home. Stays in touch with the people who he represents.
    Hell, we don’t even know WHERE your Messiah’s home is….

  • nc

    Yeah, you’re probably right. Real trailer trash:
    “Representative Gowdy serves on the House Committees on Education and the Workforce, Ethics, Judiciary, and Oversight and Government Reform. He also serves as Chairman of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Border Security for the Judiciary Committee. In these capacities, Representative Gowdy has fought to highlight facts, uphold the Constitution, rein in the ever-expanding scope of the federal government, and restore America’s trust with a renewed spirit of honesty, fairness and reason.

    Trey graduated from Spartanburg High School in 1982, Baylor University in 1986 with a degree in history, and the University of South Carolina School of Law in 1989 where he was a member of the scholastic honor society “Order of the Wig and Robe.”

    For 6 years as a federal prosecutor, Trey prosecuted the full range of federal crimes including narcotics trafficking rings, bank robberies, child pornography cases, and the murder of a federal witness. He was awarded the Postal Inspector’s Award for the successful prosecution of J. Mark Allen, one of “America’s Most Wanted” suspects. He also received the highest performance rating a federal prosecutor can receive – two years in a row.

    As 7th Circuit Solicitor, Trey led an office of 25 attorneys and 65 total employees. During his tenure, he started a Violence Against Women Task Force and a Worthless Check Program, enhanced and expanded Drug Court, and implemented a Drug Mother Protocol designed to assist expectant mothers break the cycle of addiction.

    He has been recognized statewide for his commitment to victim’s rights and drunken driving enforcement and nationally for excellence in death penalty prosecutions.”
    http://gowdy.house.gov/Biography/

  • Medicinewoman2

    Let me guess, you actually believe you’re an elitist.
    Show me an elitist, and I’ll show you a loser.
    Tom Clancy

  • wwbdinct

    He is a former federal prosecutor. You’re a troll. Case closed.

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    Funny, I bet you’d be blowing steam out of the seams of your flat head if a Conservative made an unflattering comment about a Demonrat politician with big ears and a funny accent.

  • peteee363

    I gave you a negative, not because I do not agree with you, but you could have said it without the colorful adjective. she is a despicable American, but once you use that type of word, you lower yourself to the sewer where libs live and prosper.

  • Anthony Clay

    Wait a minute, dom’t you disparage, miss rug muncher Kankles Klinton of the Huma run Muslim brotherhood, oh i see your anti-dyke lesbian. Next thing you will tell me you don’t think it proper for Janet Neapolitan To have the wholesale rapes that go on in her dept, those juicy female interns, just waiting for a attractive dyke like janet. or the firing of any straight employees

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    But then again do we need to be policing everyone’s speech?

  • wwbdinct

    Thank you.

  • Anthony Clay

    you mean wheres its dark and dank

  • dodgergirl88

    I agree with you. If Gary hadn’t used the c word, he might have had a legitimate statement, but reading that word made me cringe.

  • Jim Denney

    … an EBT card and a short bus ticket. Oh, and a “Democratic” voter card.

  • Jim Denney

    You forgot tolerance, don’t forget tolerance!

  • http://discus.com yourmamatoo

    Why not?
    Obama the inept, ignorant, community organizer, voting present senator from Chicago was.So anything is possible.
    And this fellow at least is knowledgeable, unlike 57 states Obama .

  • Spinmamma

    Ahh yes, The Redneck epithet– the only utterly racist title still ok to use. You go RMFitz. Keep showing your true deeply racist, deeply elitist outlook.

  • wwbdinct

    Jimmy Carter was a southern redneck.

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    …Preceded by Dubya (43), from TEXAS, Billary Clin-ton (Arkansas), LBJ (Texas again), Harry Truman (Missouri), Andrew Jackson (Tennessee)… Should I go on, or are you still convinced a “Redneck” will Never win the White House? Larry the Cable Guy tried a Pat Paulsen (remember him?) and despite more support, never got to the Primaries as a Viable candidate, but he had a Grassroots support base… Jawamax 8<{D}

  • TexSizzle

    Why not? Jimmy Carter, Beelzebubba Clinton , and” Landslide Lyndon” Johnson are/were “southern redneck[s] like this” who won a national elected office.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Unlike you low-information voters, we vote for substance not appearances.

  • Marjorie

    Wow! Bigotry at its best. I’m not a Southerner and have no trouble understanding Gowdy…and looks are not really high on the list of qualities needed for elected office..

  • Spinmamma

    oh look! You DID get your idea of what rural people are like from watching “Deliverance.”

  • http://discus.com yourmamatoo

    Ah, low info, proof you do not know ,how popular he is .

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    Many of us are too well-educated to vote for someone based on their appearance. Or against someone.

    That’s more than can be said for most Demonrat voters.

  • Adela Wagner

    It’s Progs/Liberals who vote on looks. Even Biden said Obama is “Clean”, and Numerous have said they voted for Obama because he is black.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    You’re just butthurt that he has been kicking a lot of liberal ass lately. The fact that you go after his appearance instead of anything of substance means that he has you rattled and that makes me happy.

  • trixiewoobeans

    We choose substance over flash.

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    Why, if only he was clean, articulate, nice-looking, and had no dialect!

  • RedSoloCup

    Better than the elitist Chicago trash we have in office now.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Do we need to lower ourselves to the moral level of the Left?

  • wwbdinct

    Maybe not but as a mother, if someone called my daughter that I’d rip his lungs out!

  • peteee363

    it is not grammar police, it is about not turning a view point into a name game. if we use their words, we are now in the gutter. the difference between the c-word, and most other negative adjectives, such as disgusting, or even scumbag, do not make the conversation about words used, but on the horrible actions of Hillary Clinton.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    I can tell from your picture and your posts that you’re super intelligent really up on all the issues.

    Says the poster whose only contribution to the discussion has been slurs.

    low information voters like me

    Well, you certainly nailed that one.

  • Adela Wagner

    However I’m sure that chef has upped his repertoire on his recipes by reading Dog Fancy magazine.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Yeah, I don’t think some dumbass who is obsessed with appearances has any right to lecture anyone on their IQ. If you really want to know my IQ then give me an honest debate on something of substance instead of being concerned about everyone’s appearance like one of those clucking hens on Fashion Police.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    What people say is their own business and if what I say about the left isn’t nice I really don’t care because what they do isn’t nice. They say worse things about us while we sit here and take it, it isn’t a winning strategy for us. We need to have some balls and be mad if we ever hope to defeat them, having a morally superior attitude isn’t going to cut it.

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    Sadly, it’s the only thing they will respond to and understand, for the most part.

  • Marjorie

    Oh Snap!

  • RedSoloCup

    Ouch!

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Where did I say we have to “sit here and take it”? It’s possible to ‘fight back’ in that regard without resorting to gutter talk.

  • peteee363

    we can be mad as hell, and use words that get across our point without being crude as the left is. do you not think disgusting, scumbag, hopeless, idiotic, moronic, are words that can be used, that do not lower the argument to name calling. Hillary Clinton is a horrible person, and she should never get in any office other then street sweeper. we want to make sure she gets there without deflecting the argument to did you hear what he/she called her? I am focused on beating her at the polls, by pointing out her flaws without having to defend how it is said.

  • Zach Brewer

    “That’s really retarded sir.”

  • Spinmamma

    My, you are so erudite, I am blown away! In the face of your brilliance, I guess I had better pack it in and slink off to read my TV Guide and my bible. You have no idea what you are talking about. Redneck is a term that means a person who works with his/her hands most often in the outdoors. Unless you get your idea of what rural people are like from watching “Honey Boo Boo” or some other stupid reality show, or movies like “Deliverance” you would know there are many people who work with their hands who are well educated, highly moral, and much more loving and tolerant than you are. By the way, the crushing beer can thing is more likely to be seen in a college frat house than the home of a real red neck.

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    Odd. I’ve seen any number of leftards around here who decry any criticism of Mohammedans and Mohammedanism as “racism.”

    Do you acknowledge that criticizing — or even insulting — a religion or its adherents is, de facto, NOT “racism”?

    Why, I’ve even seen the fight against illegal immigration called “racism”! How absurd is that?!? This debate largely involves those crossing the border illegally from Mexico. “Mexican” is not a race, any more than Canadian! Do you acknowledge that wanting to stop illegal immigration, even if you do not agree with the sentiment, is not “racist”?

  • eaglechick

    Racist…sooooooooo over used. No longer applies.

  • TexSizzle

    Those with “a proclivity for sibling sex” all moved to Hollywood and started making movies about their family history, claiming that it was what they left behind.

  • Adela Wagner

    And they are the ones who want to make “anti-bullying” laws. Be careful Rm…you’ll have to be putting yourself in the “time out” chair.

  • RedSoloCup

    Fitz must be butthurt his welfare check will be delayed by two weeks. Add the fact he’s running low on beer and Cheetoes is no help either!

  • Medicinewoman2

    Aszholes are prolific in this world like germs.

  • wwbdinct

    You want to start making fun of the looks of those in Congress? Let’s start with that Frederika chick from Florida with the sequined cowboy hats that looks like a female pimp.

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    Hey, redneck is RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST! You racist bigot!

    Didn’t your mom teach you any better?

    Hey look! I found a pic of Fitzy and his mom!

  • Noah

    wow. anyone that supports the jugeared skidmark in the white house now or his pet vp has no room to mock anyone’s looks or accent.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    If Hillary Clinton was my daughter I would do the same thing…..to her.

  • wwbdinct

    I don’t disagree but Romney using the “C” word wasn’t about to get him elected and I’ve yet to hear Chris Christie use it either.

  • wwbdinct

    Ben – I don’t disagree with you in theory at all. There’s a line that gets crossed with me and that is referring to my daughter, me or any other woman the “C” word. It’s beyond insulting – in my mind.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Yeah, but you are letting a word get in the way of a point. Words warrant the action and considering what Hillary has done she deserves to be called a lot worse.

  • Spinmamma

    HA HA HA HA HA! Well, gotta go,. It’s been amusing. Have fun. You are on a roll.

  • Noah

    um, jesse jackson junior isnt from the south, fuckface.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Yeah, but you are letting a word get in the way of a point.

    No, I’m not. I’m pointing out that the word *masks* the point.

    Considering what Hillary has done she deserves to be called a lot worse.

    I don’t disagree that she *deserves* to be called worse, but consider this: do RMFitz’ slurs make you take a closer look at his argument, or discount it out-of-hand? Is it more effective to counter him by pointing out his bigotry and hate, or by calling HRC a “c*nt” so that the Left can make the claim of bigotry and hate, themselves?

    Which gambit helps us and which hurts us?

  • Spinmamma

    No. But it’s about as accurate as getting one’s ideas about African Americans from watching “Gone With The Wind.”

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    BY LIGHT YEARS! I’ve been to South Carolina, and not just cities/Suburban towns… My Step-Father lived in Moncks’ Corners, a delightful little rural Burgh near Lake Moultrie…My Sister-In-Law Betty is from Aiken (I think?), nice and quiet, And I have friends from BOTH Carolinas (North AND South), and these people have more common sense in their pinky finger than you probably have in your whole body! /End Rant Jawamax 8<{D}

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    BIG TIME WRONG, Fitz! I’ve been to South Carolina (I even lived there for a few weeks in Georgetown, where my Stepfather had to travel as part of his Job), And I can tell you from experience that South Carolina, as you insinuate, IS NOT “ONE BIG TRAILER PARK FULL OF INBRED REDNECKS!” Take Charleston, for example. That city is rich in History and Culture (Dating back to the American Revolution, and the Civil War;Check your History books-The Civil War started in Charleston Harbor). There are plenty of marshlands and estuaries for camping, hunting and fishing, which aren’t just for rednecks. There are also many farms and ranches, and there’s also Myrtle Beach, the “Riviera of the Mid-Atlantic Coast.”
    So I ask you again, have you ever been to South Carolina? If not, DON’T KNOCK IT! Jawamax 8<{D}

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    But caring about what the left is going to do to us is part of the problem, the more you act like you care the more power it gives them over you. I do what I want regardless of how some idiot on the left is going to respond.

  • captaingrumpy

    Mike…..Freedom of speech my man.

  • wwbdinct

    Agreed. The thread got way off topic. I do agree with you. Neither Romney nor McCain took off the gloves. They should have fought dirty just like the psycho freak-in-chief and his little army of jack booted thugs did.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    But my point is Hillary deserves it, I really don’t care what her gender is. Look, I’m all for people being nice if they want to be nice but don’t lecture other people about it especially when they are on your side. That’s all I’m saying.

  • nc

    No one asked me, but I’m going to pop in here with my two cents anyway. One reason I like commenting on Twitchy so much is it is one of the few public forums that maintains a reasonable sense of decorum (save the inevitable, and often annoying, rude trolls). So it’s disappointing to me when one of us stoops unnecessary vulgarity.

    There’s more than enough of that in libbie and LIV tweets.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    No problem then, Chief – go ahead and call HRC a “c*nt”…but when you do, you give up the right to say a single damn thing when the Left talks about a conservative “War on Women”.

  • wwbdinct

    I’m not lecturing. I don’t like to hear that word used. That’s all. Believe me, I have no interest in being “nice” to the enemy.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Isn’t that exactly what you’re doing, here? Lecturing?

  • wwbdinct

    Federal prosecutor – moron!!

  • mickeyco

    We don’t take advice from ignorant trolls any more than we do from Schumer.

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    Maybe the rest of America isn’t as ignorant as you are — or as ignorant as you assume they are. Maybe you need to stick your fat head out into fresh air once in a while, and out of that “History of Mayan Pottery” class once in a while.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I’m saying you are incorrect because the people who would vote for him are not morons. I also seem to remember another ‘dumb redneck’ who occupied the White House for 8 years in the 90’s.

  • lee martell

    RMFitz and Spinmamma, Both you guys need a time out. Meanwhile, you’re making me laugh at the Punch & Judy ti% for tat! Both stubborn, wanting the last last word!
    RM, I understand your reasoning about how regional accents are perceived, but lest we forget who became our current President, whether or not he deserves it, and in spite of over the top communist (parents)connections, and terrorist (Bill Ayers, the ghost writer) sympathies. In this America of today, anything, pro or con is truly possible. Did you EVER think we’d have a White House inviting top deputies of the Muslim Brotherhood for a sit down brunch? It happened last week,

  • trixiewoobeans

    And fairness, lest we forget!

  • Kandylynn

    That’s right. Liberals are always the most tolerant!

  • trixiewoobeans

    They don’t call him “President Boyfriend” for nuthin’!

  • http://discus.com yourmamatoo

    No, Carter was an azzclown, just like Obama.

  • http://discus.com yourmamatoo

    Exactly!
    And unlike the low infos, we actually followed the campaigns.

  • http://discus.com yourmamatoo

    I see you did not refute it.
    Next.

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    By the way, you know that extra money your mom slips you every week?

    Well . . . you can thank me for that .
    😉

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    No, “Odd number of chromosomes” = your mom.

  • trixiewoobeans

    Hmm, do I detect a “Downs” joke in there, Maher?

  • http://discus.com yourmamatoo

    Ah, thanks low info, for that predictable , when ya have nothing response.
    Einstein.

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    Have you ever been to South Carolina? Curious… Jawamax 8<{D}

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    lol, bravo!

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    Jimmy Carter is/was ALL TEETH AND NO BRAINS! #Americathon Jawamax 8<{D}

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    Haha, you noticed that too? Not ONE iota of substantive contribution, not even an attempt. That’s why I’m 1) tending to respond to him only in kind, and 2) “Outing” him for what he really is, see pic below of Fitzy & Mom at home.

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    Rednecks are also VERY inventive……I’m sure Fitz has laughed at all those pictures of how rednecks improvise fixing things when they’re broken….Or being covered in Grease, oil, dirt, etc. after fixing the engine of a truck or tractor….And, when they need to feed their family, or pay the Mortgage, they won’t put their hand out, asking for help…They’ll find a way to make the money. And if Trey Gowdy is such a “Stupid Redneck,” why does he sound so articulate when he talks? WHY DOES GOWDY MAKE SENSE? Two words:COMMON SENSE! Jawamax 8<{D}

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    No I don’t because the supposed “War on Women” is about issues not words and besides I am not the one who said it. I just don’t think it is right for adults to tell other adults how they can or cannot talk on the internet. That’s just my opinion.

  • captaingrumpy

    No you don’t , you let them know how you feel.
    Stop acting like a Lefty.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    No I don’t because the supposed “War on Women” is about issues not words and besides I am not the one who said it.

    Specious logic-chopping. If you think that the Left doesn’t seize on comments like that to claim bigotry and hate from the Right, you’re either brand-new to the internet/news world or incredibly naive.

    I just don’t think it is right for adults to tell other adults how they can or cannot talk on the internet. That’s just my opinion.

    I must have missed where Peetee told Gary he couldn’t say it – can you point that out for me?

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I just don’t think we should be telling everyone how they can or cannot talk, that is something the left does too. I think we are all adults here who are on the internet and not in running for election. We are not each other’s parents.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    I am focused on beating her at the polls, by pointing out her flaws without having to defend how it is said.

    Exactly – why give the left even *MORE* ammunition to use against us? That’s the very definition of stupidity.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I must have missed the part where he didn’t devote a whole paragraph to chastising him for saying it, isn’t that what we are talking about here?

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    You don’t even have a fraction of Mr. Gowdy’s Education (BTW-at the time he graduated High School, ARKANSAS had the WORST EDUCATION RECORD-Guess who was in charge there at the time!), and you DARE to call him “Stupid Redneck?” Larry the Cable Guy is smarter than you! Jawamax 8<{D}

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    That’s probably because you are a moron.

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    BTW, Larry is from Nebraska, another “Redneck State”… Jawamax 8<{D}

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Yeah, but he is making a comment on the internet and not running for public office here. I say we ought to be able to do whatever the left does anyway and not give a damn about it. Fight fire with fire. We can talk issues all day but the low-info crowd doesn’t pay attention to that, they pay attention to comedians and celebs who bash us unapologetically all day every day with rude comments and profanity. This trying to be civil stuff is killing us, time to use their tactics.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    To a degree, anyway. Peetee and I are talking about moderating the tone while still standing up to the Left, and you appear to be talking about “you ain’t the boss of me, I do what I want.”

    And that’s fine – just realize that when you *do* use those words, that the Left will use them as ammunition against the Right, claiming bigotry and hate….or do you *NOT* remember the clamor over Limbaugh and Fluke?

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I’m defending another poster’s right to say what he wants in response to another poster who says he can’t.

  • http://discus.com yourmamatoo

    Ever hear Clinton talk?
    Or Carter talk?
    And their looks were hideous.
    Next.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    So it’s ok when *you* do it, but not when someone else does?

    And again, the other poster didn’t say he *CAN’T*, but that he *shouldn’t*. A small difference, but a very important one.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I say let them, Rush also gained more listeners because of it. I am just saying we all have different ways of presenting our arguments and some are more rude than others. I try not to use words like that myself but I’m not going lecture other people for saying them.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Rush also gained more listeners because of it

    Yippee for him – and how much damage did it do to the image of the Right in the public eye?

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Who cares? As I keep saying, the more we act like we care the more power it gives them over us. Caring what the left and the public thinks about us is what corrupted guys like McCain, Graham, and Rubio.

  • captaingrumpy

    Mind your own business , what are you a school teacher or Pastor.????

  • http://discus.com yourmamatoo

    So , you consider Obama , an unelectable , redneck?
    Ahh , and umm 57 states,and errr ummm let me ahh be um , absolutely clear Obama, the constitution was written 20 centuries ago, calls Europe a country.
    That ignorant poser who was elected , twice , by low infos like you?
    Please child, you simply cannot compete.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I’m not the one telling people they can’t say something.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    As I said, it isn’t something I would say but I’m just defending his right to say it.

  • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

    Mmm hmm, I didn’t want to make any unwarranted assumptions.

  • RedSoloCup

    Does she use a genderless bathroom?

  • nc

    I don’t think it’s about being “each other’s parents,” Ben, I just think that for the most part, commenters here on Twitchy try to maintain a level of decorum that you don’t often find on other public sites. Wouldn’t you hate to lose that?

    Obviously I’m not including tweeting twits and trolls.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    No, but you *ARE* the one misrepresenting “you *shouldn’t* say that” as “you can’t say that”.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Who cares?

    THE VOTING PUBLIC cares, you idiot! Did you not see *ANY* of the exit polls talking about the perception of the two parties? The more ammunition we give the Left to use against us, the more they can sway public opinion with it.

    But hey, you go on with your “I do what I want” bad self. F*ck the effect on winning voters, you got to call HRC a c*nt and that’s what’s REALLY important.

    It’s all about YOU, baby!

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Shouldn’t say can’t say

    It’s not a ‘freedom of speech’ issue, and it’s a bogus argument to present it as such.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    To an extent, although it probably doesn’t bother me as much since I go to other websites where libs are a lot worse than here. I don’t know, it’s just the rebellious “First Amendment” part of me that doesn’t like seeing people try to censor what other people say. If you’ve also seen my posts then you can probably see how far down decorum is on my list of priorities :)

  • mike_in_kosovo

    No you don’t , you let them know how you feel.

    And just *where* did I say you *can’t* let them know how you feel?

    Stop acting like a Lefty

    Stop arguing like one.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    That’s because Romney and the RNC cared what the Democrats said about them and didn’t hit them back so the voting public believed whatever lies the Democrats told them. It illustrates perfectly what I am saying.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Mind your own business

    Since you’re up in mine, how about you take your own advice?

  • cajun_2

    What is wrong with someone reminding others to show simple manners? Maybe for some its an impossible request due to limited vocabulary.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Really? Romney cared what the Left thought and didn’t hit back? I guess that’s why he cleaned Zero’s clock in the debate, because he cared so much?

    Whatever you want to believe in your fantasy world, dude.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    There is an entire list of things Romney didn’t hit back on and he didn’t even touch Obama’s personal background beyond his first 4 years in office. He didn’t have ads out that said Obama killed people like Obama did to him although he could have. Romney didn’t touch Bill Ayers, Reverend Wright, or Tony Rezko. Look where it got him.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    You mean the Ayers, Wright and Rezko stuff that came out before the 08 election that the voting public didn’t care about? Why do you think they’d care more in ’12?

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Bain Capital and the numerous ads that claimed he killed people. Most of them came from that. What I am saying is that being civil and just sticking to the issues and not getting down and dirty doesn’t win elections no matter how much people say they want civility.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Oh come on, no one other than the people who follow politics even knew who they were. Romney and the RNC could have made ads and brought it to the low-information voter but decided to call Obama a “nice guy”.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Because it is still trying to police what other people say?

  • mike_in_kosovo

    That’s a statement of opinion, not fact.

    Why do you think it’s better to spend campaign time attacking the other person, rather than showing why your ideas would be better?

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Only to you.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Well then, I guess we should ask President Romney if being civil wins elections.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Why would *YOU* ask him that? Given your postings here, you didn’t vote for him in the first place since he wasn’t tuff enough for you.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    He wasn’t tough enough to independent low-information voters who don’t vote based solely on issues.

  • nc

    I’m with you on the First Amendment thing. If you check Twitchy you’ll see I was immediately defending Paula Deen, for example, from Day One. I guess maybe what we’re talking about here could be generational. Younger people are far more used to hearing coarse language in public. I was raised in a different time and I’m still not really used to it.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    He wasn’t tough enough to independent low-information voters who don’t vote based solely on issues

    Self-honesty is the best honesty…

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Could be, it’s not really a good thing but it is what it is I guess.

  • Spinmamma

    Glad you were amused. So was I–Old RM was an a race/regional baiting roll. However, RM was not talking about regional differences in dialect–he was saying something far more insulting I am afraid.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Uh huh.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I voted for him so what is your point exactly? Ok you win, let’s use the spineless civility strategy that McCain and Romney used the last two elections and do everything the left tells us to do in 2016 and see how far that gets us. Good luck.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    let’s use the spineless civility strategy

    As opposed to the stupidity strategy of attacking your opponent rather than presenting your platform/views?

    Great idea… let’s beat the Libs by…becoming Libs ourselves!

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    The ‘stupidity’ strategy of getting down and dirty and hitting your opponent back that both Bushes and Reagan used and won? Remember the Swift Boat veterans in 2004 that practically won the election for Bush even amid an unpopular war? People called that uncivil…..but it worked.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    The ‘stupidity’ strategy of getting down and dirty and hitting your opponent back that both Bushes and Reagan used and won?

    Cite – specific examples where the *campaign* used those tactics and not PACS/focus groups. Oh, and cites for how they *DIDN’T* talk about their platforms/plans.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    I can explain it to you, I can’t understand it for you. Maybe your next stop should be dictionary.com?

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Your flaw is that you think low information liberals vote for Republicans anyway. Conservative voters are not that dumb.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Use that internet of yours and look up Lee Atwater.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Maybe you should stop by there and look up “bullsh-t” because you seem to be full of it.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    So? Unlike you, I was of voting age for Reagan, and I didn’t vote for him due to his attacks on his opponent, but for his vision and plans.

    Still waiting on you to explain how we can show voters we’re different from the Dems by acting just like them.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    I’m not the one that can’t tell the difference between can’t and shouldn’t, skippy.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    It isn’t about what YOU as someone who was already going to vote for him voted for him for, it’s about what the people who weren’t going to vote for him voted for him for.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Did Reagan let his opponents get away with lying about him?

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    and I’m not someone who thinks it matters.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    it’s about what the people who weren’t going to vote for him voted for him for.

    So, the people who didn’t agree with his platform were somehow magically going to vote for him if he out smeared the Dems?

    Yeah, you keep thinking that.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    For someone that doesn’t think it matters, you’ve certainly done plenty of whinging about it.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    So have you.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    What about independents? What about the Reagan Democrats as they came to be called? Low information voters can come from any side. 3 million Republican voters stayed home in 2012. You can’t win if you can’t even get people in your own party to vote for you.

  • http://twitter.com/Throckmorton09 Biff Wellington

    Might want to get your dictionary out again and look up another big word: “ethnicity”. FYI – Hispanic/Latino are both Caucasian….

  • mike_in_kosovo

    So, you can’t tell the difference between correcting a misrepresentation and whining? I bet all your English teachers ended up snatching themselves bald-headed, didn’t they?

  • mike_in_kosovo

    What about independents? What about the Reagan Democrats as they came to be called?

    The ones that agreed with his platform, you mean?
    “Many self-styled Reagan Democrats claim to be fiscal conservatives but still support many aspects of the core programs of the New Deal and the Great Society, while also supporting Ronald Reagan’s strong defense policies as well as his optimism in American culture. ”

    Hmm…can’t seem to find anything in there about their appreciation of racing to the gutter.

    You can’t win if you can’t even get people in your own party to vote for you.

    True – and showing how you’re so *different* than the other party by way of acting *exactly* like them is going to motivate those folks, how?

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I’m saying that whether it is ‘shouldn’t’ or ‘can’t’ that it in no way changes my opinion yet you seem to be hung up on it for some reason.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Why can’t you sell your platform/issue and hit back your opponents at the same time? Why does it have to be one or the other? You can use the same strategies as the other party as long as you are not selling the same ideology. If we don’t adopt some of their strategy we are going to lose again. Think of conservatism and liberalism as Ford and Chevy. Is Ford going to quit running TV ads just because Chevy also runs TV ads? Ford also isn’t going to become Chevy by running TV ads. The product you are selling is still different. Same thing here.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    I’m hung up on the fact that you had to lie about peetee’s post to make your point…something you *STILL* seem unable to grasp.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Why can’t you sell your platform/issue and hit back your opponents at the same time? Why does it have to be one or the other?

    Why do you think it *is* “one or the other”?

    Think of conservatism and liberalism as Ford and Chevy. Is Ford going to quit running TV ads just because Chevy also runs TV ads? Ford also isn’t going to become Chevy by running TV ads. The product you are selling is still different. Same thing here.

    Bad analogy and the comparison made (ads) isn’t even close to being applicable, as stated.

    To re-phrase in those terms, you want Republicans to fake truck fires like Dateline instead of talking about how to turn the company around.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    What am I lying about?? Is he not chastising him for using ‘c-nt’? Why are you so hung up on this ‘can’t’/’shouldn’t’ nonsense? It makes absolutely NO difference to my argument. Get over it.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    What am I lying about?? Is he not chastising him for using ‘c-nt’?

    Yup, sure is. What he’s *NOT* doing is telling him that he CAN’T say that… which is what you’ve claimed several times.

    It makes absolutely NO difference to my argument.

    Of course it doesn’t, since your argument was based on the false pretense.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Why is it a bad analogy just because you don’t understand the point I was making? The Republican Party when it was winning elections were doing the same things the Democrat Party was doing and doing them better I might add. And guess what, they weren’t playing by the Gentleman’s Rules you seem to think we need even though they have lost us two straight elections.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Why is it a bad analogy just because you don’t understand the point I was making?

    The fact that I was able to re-frame the analogy (and more accurately, as well) proves I perfectly understood the point you were *attempting* to make.

    The Republican Party when it was winning elections were doing the same things the Democrat Party was doing and doing them better I might add.

    Which, of course, is why those Reagan Democrats were all about his race to the gutter, and not about fiscal conservatism and a strong military, right?

    Oh, wait…

    And guess what, they weren’t playing by the Gentleman’s Rules you seem to think we need even though they have lost us two straight elections.

    Misrepresenting my argument, *again*? Seriously? Is your point that weak?

    Where, in any of my postings, have I said that we should NOT fight back, pray tell?

  • cajun_2

    There are probably many women at this website. Lets take a poll and see if your use of the term has added substance to the discussion.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    First of all, your rephrasing is flawed at best. Pointing out factual unflattering things like Ayers, Wright, and Rezko or digging up other dirt about Obama is different than faking fires. I’m not saying to do anything illegal, just something akin to Obama running those ads about Romney. What you are saying is stick to the issues without exposing any dirt on the opponent which isn’t working for us. Obama had plenty of dirt that went untouched.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Fine, I’ll use chastise. He shouldn’t be chastising another adult for saying a bad word. Happy?

  • mike_in_kosovo

    First of all, your rephrasing is flawed at best. Pointing out factual unflattering things like Ayers, Wright, and Rezko or digging up other dirt about Obama is different than faking fires.

    The fact that you have to attempt to make the point the legality of dateline’s story rather than the moral difference between the two examples shows the paucity of your argument.

    And again…the voters DIDN’T CARE about Rezko, Wright or Ayers in 2008, what makes you think that doing *more* ads in 2012 was going to change things?

    There were plenty of ads against Obama – the problem is that for one, much of the support for Obama is, regardless of claims otherwise by the Liberals, due to his skin color. They got a LOT of mileage (and still try, now) out of that and there’s a reflexive support because of it.

    Secondly, the RNC did it’s damnedest to cut Romney’s legs out from under him.

    What you are saying is stick to the issues without exposing any dirt on the opponent which isn’t working for us.

    Is there a specific reason *why* you keep lying about my viewpoint? I have NOT ONCE said don’t expose any dirt… I’ve said don’t give them any ammo to use against us by saying stupid shit.

    Obama had plenty of dirt that went untouched.

    Examples?

  • mike_in_kosovo

    First of all, your rephrasing is flawed at best.

    No, that was your analogy, actually.

    Pointing out factual unflattering things like Ayers, Wright, and Rezko
    or digging up other dirt about Obama is different than faking fires.

    So, since the public didn’t care about Ayers, Wright and Rezko in 2008, we just need to shout louder and harder and they’ll SURELY care in 2012? Is that the strategy?

    What you are saying is stick to the issues without exposing any dirt on the opponent which isn’t working for us.

    Is there some specific reason WHY you need to continually LIE about my argument? Where in this thread have I *EVER* said that we shouldn’t expose any dirt?

    Obama had plenty of dirt that went untouched.

    If it was untouched, how did you find out about it?

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Why do YOU get to say what he can/can’t do?

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I said ‘shouldn’t’ not ‘can’t’. :)

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Yes, you did… of course, shouldn’t vs. can’t was a paraphrase of the issue rather than exact quotes.

    You still seem unable to grasp that peetee’s point was that it’s possible to disagree without going to the gutter. Your point is that peetee shouldn’t disagree with Dave…and by doing so, you’ve done *exactly* what you *claimed* peetee did.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    First of all, being mentioned in conservative media that low information people don’t pay attention to is different than being brought to the forefront of national attention. We knew about the details of Benghazi and the IRS months before anyone else in the mainstream was talking about it. Seriously, how can you be on this site and not be aware of this? Romney needed to hit Obama on things like that but shrunk away from it. If that isn’t your argument then what is it? That we should care what the Democrats think and let them run the 2016 election for us? We should tip toe around the left so we don’t hurt their feelings? What is it?

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I just don’t think one adult should talk to another like they are a parent telling a five year old to not use a bad word. I was just defending Gary is all, I don’t know why we have wasted hours talking about it.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    It would kind of be a flawed poll since I wasn’t the one who used it.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    What fantasy world are you living in, where you missed Romney talking about Benghazi?

    Here’s a bit from RealClearPolitics:
    Actually Obama dodged a big bullet last September, when his GOP opponent, Mitt Romney, was overeager to attack the president on Benghazi and score political points at a stage in the campaign when the Republican found himself falling behind.

    The former Massachusetts governor made the colossal blunder of jumping out ahead of the president in responding to the attacks. By doing that, he made himself a key player in the first news stories about the tragedy. That set him up as a target for critics when Obama should have had the hot seat all to himself. With that diversion, the pressure on the president to take sole responsibility was relieved, and in many ways deflected it toward Romney.

    If that isn’t your argument then what is it?

    How many MORE times do I need to rephrase “Don’t say stupid shit the Libs can use against us” before you FINALLY figure out that what I meant was “Don’t say stupid shit the Libs can use against us”?

    Are you *THAT* damn clueless?

  • mike_in_kosovo

    We knew about the details of Benghazi and the IRS months before anyone else in the mainstream was talking about it. Seriously, how can you be on this site and not be aware of this? Romney needed to hit Obama on things like that but shrunk away from it.

    Romney was all over the news talking about it. Unfortunately, since he got on the issue first, he shifted the focus *away* from Zero instead of onto him.

    “Actually Obama dodged a big bullet last September, when his GOP opponent, Mitt Romney, was overeager to attack the president on Benghazi and score political points at a stage in the campaign when the Republican found himself falling behind.

    The former Massachusetts governor made the colossal blunder of jumping out ahead of the president in responding to the attacks. By doing that, he made himself a key player in the first news stories about the tragedy. That set him up as a target for critics when Obama should have had the hot seat all to himself. With that diversion, the pressure on the president to take sole responsibility was relieved, and in many ways deflected it toward Romney.

    Had Romney kept quiet for a couple of days and let the president hold the spotlight to outline and defend his administration’s actions, the public might have seen the tragedy for what it was: Obama’s responsibility and his responsibility alone.

    Instead, the crisis became as much candidate Romney’s as it was Commander-in-Chief Obama’s.”

    If that isn’t your argument then what is it? That we should care what the Democrats think and let them run the 2016 election for us? We should tip toe around the left so we don’t hurt their feelings? What is it?

    Seriously, dude? How many MORE time and in how many MORE ways do I need to re-state and re-phrase “Don’t say stupid sh*t the Libs can use against us” before you realize that what I’m saying is “Don’t say stupid sh*t the Libs can use against us”?

  • mike_in_kosovo

    I don’t know why we have wasted hours talking about it.

    Because you deliberately misrepresented what peetee said.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    No, you got butthurt because I inadvertently used can’t instead of shouldn’t although it doesn’t make one damn bit of difference.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Except it does, because it lies about what peetee said.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Ugh, I’m bowing out of this conversation.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I remember, but your thinking and the media’s thinking is flawed in that if Romney had waited a few days the result would be different. What is your source? It sounds like a typical liberal outlet. The media were not going to give Romney a fair shake no matter what, they were aiding and abetting Obama. That is why Romney and the RNC needed to ignore it and go after Obama relentlessly anyway instead of shrinking away from it like they did.

    “Had Romney kept quiet for a couple of days and let the president hold the spotlight to outline and defend his administration’s actions, the public might have seen the tragedy for what it was: Obama’s responsibility and his responsibility alone.”

    Yeah right, I laughed hard at this. Talk about living in a fantasy world if you thought the media was ever going to hold Obama responsible for his actions. Romney missed a golden opportunity to push the issue to the forefront and try to get the answers that we are still trying to get from the Administration. Your definition of “stupid sh-t” is different than mine.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    I remember, but your thinking and the media’s thinking is flawed in that if Romney had waited a few days the result would be different.

    Well, thank goodness we have your (no doubt) overwhelming political expertise here to advise us.

    What is your source? It sounds like a typical liberal outlet.

    GIYF

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    “Well, thank goodness we have your (no doubt) overwhelming political expertise here to advise us.”

    I guess we should consult the ‘experts’ that lost the election then. Good thinking.

    “GIYF”

    Yeah, it’s really mature to post a source that you won’t cite since you are afraid it will expose it as a liberal rag and tell someone to Google it for themselves even though there is no way to Google a whole damn article. Congratulations on being a jackass. I’m done with you.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    I guess we should consult the ‘experts’ that lost the election then. Good thinking.

    Compared to your thoughts that we’ll attract people away from the Dems by becoming just like them? Yeah, that *is* good thinking in comparison.

    Yeah, it’s really mature to post a source that you won’t cite since you are afraid it will expose it as a liberal rag and tell someone to Google it for themselves even though there is no way to Google a whole damn article.

    What would *you* know about maturity?

    Re: googling an article…here you go…holy sh*t that was hard to do.

    http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Actually+Obama+dodged+a+big+bullet+last+September&l=1

    Congratulations on being a jackass.

    Talking to your mirror?

    I’m done with you.

    Don’t go away mad…just go away.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    “Compared to your thoughts that we’ll attract people away from the Dems
    by becoming just like them? Yeah, that *is* good thinking in
    comparison.”

    Using their marketing strategy isn’t becoming just like them. Don’t be dumb.

    “Re: googling an article…here you go…holy sh*t that was hard to do.”

    Good, you know how to use the internet. Now show me that you know how to use cut and paste and post the link to the article you cited.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Good, you know how to use the internet. Now show me that you know how to use cut and paste and post the link to the article you cited.

    How about you show us that you know how to use the internet by clicking the link that’s already there in my response, genius?

  • captaingrumpy

    You are saying that anyone who swears cannot speak English.
    Sounds silly when you lob them all together doesn’t it.

  • eaglechick

    OK..I thought the reply was pretty cool..thanks..

  • cajun_2

    manners

  • Jim Denney

    Thank you, very kind!

  • RedSoloCup

    And you could pay to get your head surgically removed from your anus. Better hope Obamacare covers it!

  • http://twitter.com/Throckmorton09 Biff Wellington

    So you believe only “white” people are Caucasian? Once again, please do some research into the difference between ‘race’ and ‘ethnicity’. What box do you check when it says “education” – none?

  • RedSoloCup

    Fitz, your binky

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    People cite sources unless they are ashamed of the source and I was right about it being a liberal rag. Sorry, but I’m not going to trust a liberal’s opinion over mine.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    And I was right about it being a liberal rag

    LMAO. Yeah, ok.

    Sorry, but I’m not going to trust a liberal’s opinion over mine.

    Intelligent people will look at the data as well as the source…but you go right ahead and knee-jerk ignore it…it’s not like you’re going to lose reputation over it.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Thanks, I will. bye bye now.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Goodbye, good luck…and good riddance.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    That’s what I will be saying to all the RINOs in 2014.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Those will be the ones *not* calling HRC a “c*nt”, right?

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    If by that you mean the spineless, let’s not hurt the Democrat’s feelings and do what they say ones then yes. I think you’ve outed yourself as a RINO.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Also where did I say any candidate should call HRC a c-nt? When did internet posters start representing the GOP? Who is misrepresenting now?

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Must suck when your argument is so lame that you have to continually lie about mine to *try* to make a point.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Well, when you start citing liberal sources and thinking we should take advice from them as if they have our best interest at heart then what am I supposed to think?

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Well, when you start citing liberal sources and thinking we should take advice from them as if they have our best interest at heart then what am I supposed to think?

    Sorry, can you point out just WHERE I said we should take advice from RCP? I must have missed where I said that.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Who is misrepresenting now

    You, as usual. You didn’t specify candidates, only RINOS. Because to you, only the RINOs won’t call HRC a c*nt, remember?

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    When you used them as a source to prove your point, duh.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    I’m tired of this conversation anyway, we are just going around in circles and not getting anywhere. later

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Where did I say that?

  • mike_in_kosovo

    So, providing a source to show that Romney jumped the gun on speaking about Benghazi is somehow “taking advice”?

    Forget logic…reading comprehension wasn’t your strong suit in school, was it?

  • mike_in_kosovo

    I can see where you’d get tired of your points getting beaten down over and over and over and over and over…

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    You haven’t beaten me at anything. I’m giving you an out, don’t be a douche about it.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    You haven’t beaten me at anything.

    So, you’re clueless AND delusional?

    I’m giving you an out

    LMAO!!!!!

    don’t be a douche about it.

    After *you’ve* called me various versions of RINO, spineless, etc etc etc? That’s pretty damn arrogant.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Well, I apologize for calling you that. We probably agree on more than we don’t and this got out of hand. Let’s just move on.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    We probably agree on more than we don’t

    I’m sure that’s true, and I bear you no ill will.

    Something that just came to mind, in order of an illustration of my point: If you fight against an individual, directly, you have to have that fight every day. Every week. Every election. Because every time, it’s a new opponent.

    Fight against their *ideas*, their ideology, and you damage all those individuals *simultaneously*. You’re able to damage them because their ideology exists separately from any ‘dirt’ you can find on them, and you’re able to hammer them on those points on a long-term basis *because* it’s not dependent on the scandal du jour.

    And, of course…you hammer them *if* you can dig up dirt on them, too. :)

    But, while doing all that…you *also* have to make sure that you don’t give them any “dirt” that they can use against you… like being able to make claims about bigotry or misogyny due to something you said in a fit of pique.

  • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

    Fair enough, I will agree with that.