House Oversight Committee finds Lois Lerner waived her Fifth Amendment right

In a Friday morning vote, the House Oversight Committee approved a resolution finding that IRS official Lois “Math is hard” Lerner waived her Fifth Amendment right at a May hearing when she delivered an opening statement. It was a party-line vote.

Editor’s note: This post has been updated with additional tweets.

  • Taylor Brown

    Can we all just have a quick moment of silence to honor Trey Gowdy?

    • carla5731

      Mike Kelly too. Having been on the receiving end of government abuse he is truly interested in making sure it doesn’t happen to other people.

    • [email protected]

      Couldn’t agree with you more….Thank God for Trey….

    • detroit19

      Proud that he is my US representative, and in tandem with Senator Tim Scott, almost makes up for Lindsey Shamnesty/Grahmnesty. Someone PLEASE primary that idiot!.

  • Jennifer

    Let’s hope they can make her sing! I won’t hold my breath, though. It’s disgusting to watch this administration constantly get away with not being held accountable.

    • Happy Mask Salesman

      Obama’s Big Dictionary of Words:

      (noun) ə-ˌkau̇n-tə-ˈbi-lə-tē

      1. Paid “administrative leave” (see also vacation)
      2. $70 million in bonuses

      Syn. Reward, bonus
      Ant. Punish

      • BrendaStarr

        You forgot to add a #3: blame Bush.

        • Bemani Dog

          And #4: call Republicans racists.

          • lainer51

            When in doubt, take a vacation.

          • Clete Torres

            Works for 0bama…

    • Red Fred

      My expectation is her testimony will be largely “I don’t recall. I don’t know. I’ll have to get back to you on that.” (Similar to the rest of that corrupt IRS bunch.)

      • TocksNedlog

        Exactly; if she even shows up, and if she says even that much.

  • JackD

    The fact that all the Dims voted against this demonstrates they will continue to deny, obstruct and shout “squirrel” during this investigation. Representing the people my azz!

  • ObamaFail

    I forget who is was. But that one committee member pointed out that she waived her right to the fifth when she made that opening statement. They shouldn’t have let her leave. They should have made her sit her ass back down and answer the questions.

    • thetreyman

      that was Trey Gowdy.

      • mapache

        Next AG in the Cruz administration if Mark Levin is unavailable.

      • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

        NINE TIMES she made statements, and she entered some document into the official record of the Hearings.Then, she pled the Fifth… If I had done that in front of a Congressional Committee (or in a Court of Law), I’d be in Jail for Contempt! Lois Lerner DOES NOT DESERVE A PASS, SHE DESERVES CONTEMPT CHARGES! Jawamax 8<{D}

    • R0nin

      Yep. Even if she answered some by pleading the Fifth– which would’ve been the only time it was actually appropriate to do so.

  • brando

    Funny how this scumbag government wants to limit the first two amendments as much as possible but use the fifth to their advantage

    • Dragomance

      It’s completely understandable.It’s the one that allows you to not have to tell the truth.The 2nd Amendment saves your life,the 5th saves your behind.

    • Dee M.

      Yeah, but funny in a not so funny way, right? How many of us would still have jobs if we tried to plead the Fifth when our employer asked us questions. I’m gonna go out on a limb and say NONE!

      • Adela Wagner

        My hubs and I had that convo. He used to drive a dump truck hauling mostly gravel. He said he could never imagine coming into the yard after a days work and having his boss ask him where he had been all day cause his Nextel was off, and my hubs saying “I refuse to answer that on the grounds….”

        Boss: “You’re fired”

  • TocksNedlog

    Gee, I hate to be a stickler for the Constitution, but this all means absolutely nothing. The vote was symbolic and she won’t (I will be VERY surprised if she does) testify.
    She SHOULD testify — but she won’t.

    • in_awe

      She will when she is granted immunity from prosecution in exchange for her testimony. She will be called as witness to impeach the testimony of other IRS and DOJ officials. Once granted immunity, I believe you can be forced to testify.

      • TocksNedlog

        She won’t be granted immunity unless they’re certain that she has valuable info on others — and they probably won’t think it’s valuable unless it’s info about people that were above her.

      • John Rebori

        Not sure if you can be forced to automatically, you may be right on that, but most certainly the grant of immunity can be written to allow it to be revoked if you refuse to testify.

    • mapache

      She already testified. After taking the oath she said, “I did nothing wrong.” You cannot take an oath, say you did nothing wrong and then clam up. You are subject to examination as to the veracity of your claim.

      • TocksNedlog

        We shall see.

        • Adela Wagner

          In her mind she did nothing wrong, when your messiah asks you to “have his back” you just do…..

          The IRS does not care about your email subscribers, or what you do at your meetings or the addresses of the people in your org.
          There are standards for 504’s and 503’s….they crossed the line in their scrutiny, why? It was not going to benefit the IRS coming down hard on these groups…so who would benefit? Hmmmmm…….

          She has been TOLD to clam up, people who don’t follow orders…well let’s just say they don’t get paid leave, vacays or promotions.
          And she just pulled an Obama, blurt out your statement, then walk away, no hard questions allowed.

      • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

        She also could’ve conveniently “Not known” or “forgot” any fact the Comittee asked her about…Like every othwer corrupt underling in this admin…. Jawamax 8<{D}

        • mapache

          That will be what she’ll say when she is compelled to testify…”I don’t recall,” “I don’t remember,” “I don’t know”

  • FaithColeridge33

    Let her plead the fifth. The thing that bothers me is they let her plead the fifth and leave. They should ask her every question they planned and make her look in the camera and recite her plea of the fifth as a response to every question.

  • RblDiver

    OK, I do want answers from her, and I definitely agree that if gov’t officials plead the fifth they should be fired…but I actually don’t get the idea that if you say ANYTHING you waive the fifth. It says “nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself”, not “Nor shall be compelled, unless you start speaking at which point you must continue.” Could the difference be whether this is considered a criminal case or something?

    • Dee M.

      Maybe because she made the statement of her own free will and was not compelled to do it? I guess it would depend on how compelled is defined – mainly by politicians, and we know how they can twist words to mean whatever they want them to mean. Such as “is.”

      • RblDiver

        Well, for instance, in criminal cases you have to enter a plea. Pleading “Not Guilty” doesn’t suddenly mean that you have to testify against yourself. Or, say the prosecution asks “What is your name?” You answer. Do you suddenly have to answer every other question that comes?
        My point is that, it seems to me, the Fifth isn’t an all-or-nothing deal. I can answer some questions and not answer some, and so long as I’m not perjuring myself I should be OK.

        • R0nin

          See my answer to you, above. It’s one thing to selectively answer questions (pleading the fifth on certain ones). It’s another to basically give a long, all encompassing testimony, and then refuse to answer questions about it.

          • RblDiver

            Maybe, I guess I’d need to go re-read her whole opening statement to see what it was that she did, but I was under the impression it was more like pleading not guilty, albeit in a verbose way. (I DO think Issa should have asked her each question and gotten her on the record for it all, and if it “humiliated” her, GOOD!)

    • Dale Glenn

      As I understand it, it’s a matter of legal proceedings. She cannot plead the 5th after she stated that “I did nothing wrong”. Her statement of no wrong doing is now a matter of testimony and can then be cross examined.

    • R0nin

      In essence, she had _already_ testified, of her own free will. She cannot then refuse to be questioned (or cross-examined). You don’t get to state your own case, and _then_ plead the fifth to avoid cross-examination of the testimony you already entered into the record.

    • detroit19

      You are not allowed to give a statement, testifying to your own innocence, and then plead the 5th amendment.

  • Marjorie

    She makes me want to drink a fifth!

  • Keep Honkin, I’m Reloading

    I predict she’ll be bumping her head soon.

    • NotaLemming

      It may be that she gets Food Poisoning now. As I recall they were running the Concussion PSAs non stop during the time and leading up to Hillary getting a bump on her empty head. Now… the trending PSA is about putting your leftovers in shallow dishes and refrigerating them quickly. So if trends follow as they have done in the past….. Lois is gonna get one bad tummy ache.

  • Dee M.

    Just asking. So, if I get audited I can plead the Fifth? And not be penalized or punished? No? Didn’t think so.

    • lainer51

      Of course, remember when Barry stood at the podium (on a stool, I assume) and said NO U.S. CITIZEN SHOULD BE TARGETED OR HARRASSED BY THE GOVT….. don’t worry, he will have your back—————
      Yeah, sure!

  • Mark Dukes

    This woman is pathetic! “I did nothing wrong…..oh and i plead the fifth”! Sounds like me when i was five and told my mama “I didn’t eat that candy bar” when she could clearly see i had chocolate all over my face! I got a spanking for telling a lie. This woman will get a pass!

  • cscape

    i like the idea that the House is moving so very, very, very, very slowly on these scandals…… Moving rapidly would allow the LIBS, DEMS, MEDIA to rapidly dismiss their true impact as we “move on”….. THIS strategy that the House is employing is time-honored and BRILLIANT….. it can only end one way now – with the TRUTH eventually seeing the light of day, and (as Dr. King put it) “we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

  • cmerlo1

    I’d be willing to trade immunity for full disclosure, including email chains from superiors, etc.

  • mickeyco

    Every attorney I’ve heard has said she definitely waived her right to the 5th.

  • digitalPimple

    She did for sure. The same for you, me or anyone in that position. I look forward to her testimony, but the DEMs will make it a circus as they do everything.

    One of the statements she made that voided her fifth: “I did nothing wrong”. She should have no problem testifying if that’s the case.

    edit: I forgot, shes a crazy-ass cracker too.

  • NotaLemming

    Lois Learner represents the government.
    How does the government plead the 5th?

  • detroit19

    Should’ve plead the 5th before making a statement declaring your innocence. HOPE this means anend to your paid ‘vacation’ at We, the People’s expense, you corrupt crook.

  • Im_Rick_James

    Throw the book at that f$cking a$$hole, lois lerner – she has a history of using the levers of government power against political enemies. She should be tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail.

  • detroit19

    Subpoena her, ASAP!

  • Bill Board

    The dimwit democraps made asses of themselves at the committee hearing.


    The “party line” piece is a disgrace. Is there not one Dem who believes she is in the wrong on this? It is time for all of them on both sides to vote more on conscience and principle and less on party. Bullsh*t…

  • Dog of the Sun

    Lois needs a lesson in Waterbording!!!

  • Slugglife

    Its amazing that these slimy little progressives use the constitution when they have to cover their tracks, meanwhile, they hammer away at ordinary citizens rights. Answer the damn questions lady!