Boom! Laura Ingraham destroys ‘hero’ Wendy Davis with one question

Bam. Leave it to the always-awesome Laura Ingraham to sum things up with one key question. This time, she blasted late-term abortion proponent Wendy Davis. As Twitchy readers know, Ms. Davis filibustered to kill a bill that would limit abortion after 20 weeks in Texas.

Davis has grossly attained a sort of hero status among the morally bankrupt who advocate for late-term abortion. You know, like President Obama … or Organizing for Action (wink wink, nudge nudge).

It does. Something else says it all, too: The fact that some are hailing her as a hero. For advocating for the death of unborn children.

For shame.

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  • Elaine

    I can just hear Wendy declaring to her doctor, ” I’m hoping for a boy. Seriously, it’s a girl? NOOOO! GASP. Must abort so she won’t have to be a victim of the Conservatives war on women.”

    • Medford_VA

      Or maybe the question is, “how many children should you be forced to have against your will?”

      • Olivia

        That depends on how many times you were forced to have sexual intercourse against your will. Statistics say less than 1% of the time. So, responsibility is back in your court.

        • Nikki

          well I was one of the 1%, and haven’t regret it

          • OLLPOH ~ America

            we miss your child, and hopefully justice will be served to the rapist, and that you will be a stronger person for surviving and that you will never ever be a victim again.

          • cacman93

            Then were clearly not talking to you. Almost every republican, sans the reliigous zealots, understand in cases of rape, incest or when it can kill the mother.

          • Kathy Fugitt Price Skaggs

            Why punish the child because the rapist is the father. So you will kill the child because the man raped you. You can give that child away to someone who will love it. As far as endangering the life of the mother that makes no sense how many mothers do you know that would gladly give their life to save their childs.

          • loriaw07

            Amen Kathy, thank you!

          • RichardSaperstein

            So you are saying a women who has been tied of for years, repeatedly raped, beaten, punished by a rapist should be forced to keep the baby, go through the trauma of delivering it and then be forced to give it away? Let’s not forget that when the baby is born if she were to keep it she would have to look at that child everyday and relieve the whole nightmare she was forced into. She has to look at that child and say ” This child was not made with love. It was made with evil but im forced to keep it because of XYZ.”

          • Theresa Easley

            She doesn’t have to look at her child. Ever heard of adoption?

          • Jazzee

            from someone who couldn’t have children and tried for yrs to adopt…..babies are wanted….trust me more of us than they realize

          • RichardSaperstein

            You’re right she doesn’t have to look at the child. The kid is going to be brought into a world where the U.S. adoption system is screwed up beyond all recognition. Adopted kids are treated like pets in the sense that if you don’t like the kid you adopted you can return them and get a new one. So instead of focusing on the real problems you want to control other peoples lives.

            Let me ask you…do you want someone to make your life decisions?

          • klockheed

            “Adopted kids are treated like pets” <– Uh, no… and that's no reason to allow for the murder of the unborn.

          • MissDiane47

            You equate adoption of babies to animal adoptions while claiming that “if you don’t like them you can return them!?” HOW DARE YOU!?!?

            Listen, buster!! I am a birth mother who placed her ONLY child for adoption 12 yrs ago. It was NOT an easy decision; I had to put the needs of my child ahead of my own selfish desires.

            I loved my child too much than to make her a part of the welfare system at that time in my life. I gave her the best gift – the gift of life AND a mother and a father who love her unconditionally as much as I love her! By the way, just try to insult the integrity of all birth mothers, jack@$$ … I’m still very protective of my little girl and her parents just like a mama bear and her cubs.

          • Jack Mahon

            Hey, just think if you had kept your legs closed back then you’d have nothing to write about.

          • hbnolikeee

            And if you kept your mouth closed no one would be aware that your a moron. Think of it (if you can thing that is).

          • hbnolikeee

            You need to be late term aborted.

          • Terri

            the controller here is the person committing the murder of the baby not the one advocating to save the babies life.

          • mkdogzzzz

            Really Richard – and you know all about child birth and how a baby feels growing inside of you for 9 mo. and what it feel like to hold an INNOCENT BABY in your arms…hmmmm – I’m sure the Supreme court will be working on that next! If you don’t have anything intelligent to say Richard – SHUT UP!!!

          • RichardSaperstein

            Thank you for the light you have shed on this subject. You have proven your point with valid facts and rational thought!

          • Bear1909

            Thanks for sharing your pea wit male thoughts, Dick.

          • pepjrp

            liberal pea wit mail thoughts.

          • hbnolikeee

            Underline DICK!

          • Larry Guglielmi

            You really had to go to the far edge of the universe to make your point…Sap!

          • RichardSaperstein
          • Freedom Girl

            Richard, are your telling us that the aborted babies, except those conceived through their mama being raped….ARE made with love? I doubt it! Abortion is an easy way out for a loose woman oyoung girl who doesn’t want the responsibility of a beautiful child.

          • pepjrp

            And who is this women that you speak of that goes through all of these things and is forced to give it away?. I hope your friends don’t recognize you and read one of the more stupid posts of all time.

          • captbob123

            the girl who was held and raped for 15 years has 3 kids by the scumbag rapist -she loves her children

          • klockheed

            Maybe we should allow those women tied-for-years, who had children born of rape to abort their children post-partum. What’s the difference, apart from the location of the child?

          • http://enria.org/ Garry

            Seems like that Berry girl still loved her little girl, even though she was raped in order to have her.

          • Heather

            Look at Jaycee Duggard…I know she didn’t have a choice to abort. But she has two children by the monster that kidnapped her. Evidently she loves those children as much as any mother could.

          • Mrgrt

            Women are more likely to have a greater instinct to look at their children conceived without her consent with compassion and love. They feel a need to protect the helpless little one. It’s their child too you know. Being treated badly doesn’t always mean people adopt that kind of behavior. Loving a child and being loved by that child is a balm for the soul.

          • Jeff Coil

            This is a false argument. How many times does this happen? Are you saying we should limit abortion to cases of rape? That would make you a right-wing extremist.
            99 percent of all abortions are done for the CONVIENANCE of the mother.

          • hbnolikeee

            This is known as reductio ad absurdum. And you are an idiot.

          • Jessie Saunders

            I don’t understand why there is so much vitriol in politics until I read something like this. Are you insane, Fugitt Skaggs? Saving the life of a woman ‘makes no sense’? Really, you can think of NO sensible reason why people, even conservatives, would be willing to ‘allow’ a woman to choose to live rather than die? No reason? None? And your only argument to defend condemning a woman to death is that we should take your word that some other woman claim, from the comfort of safety, that think they would, hypothetically, make the choice to end their life for the sake of their offspring? So you not only respect the hypothetical answers to hypothetical scenarios you assign to hypothetical women over the actual choices (or the ability to make that choice) of actual women in actually life threatening situations? Not only do you respect those hypotethical choices more, you actually argue for imposing them on actual women, who you would have pay with their lives to uphold a standard you have basically made up in your head. What makes no sense here?

          • Wes

            So how many womendo any of you know in those circumstances? frigging heathens.

          • Fred Beggs

            Wow, is all I can say, I truly feel for you.

          • lauraannj322

            St Gianna Beretta Molla made that courageous choice of life for her child. She died a week after giving birth and insisted that if a choice had to be made her life or her baby’s life, then they should save the baby.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            “St Gianna Beretta Molla made that courageous choice ”

            “Choice”

            choice

          • Grassroots Gaston

            This bill isn’t about choice. They had nineteen weeks and 6 days to make that choice. Why wait?

          • Hiraghm

            choice… between her LIFE and her baby’s LIFE, not between escaping responsibility for performing the act designed to create a baby and accepting said responsibility.

          • Michael Rocker

            As others have replied to you. The key word is “CHOICE”. She made that choice not someone wearing a suit that has no medical education.

            A woman in Long island NY was in a car accident a few years ago. She was pregnant and in a COMA. While at the hospital her doctors felt that her best interest to terminate her pregnancy. Since she was in a COMA her husband had to decide. The day she was scheduled some Pro Lifer who was no where related to this woman or her family it went as high as the Supreme Court. Here is the link

            http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/22/nyregion/supreme-court-rejects-li-case-on-abortion.html

            You can do whatever you feel like with your body but don’t impose your views on other women who have a CHOICE.

          • klockheed

            The unborn women should also have a choice, don’t you agree? Or do only those in certain locations get that right?

          • Guest

            The question isn’t rather it’s a choice. The question is whether the fetus is in fact a life, and there’s scientific data to indicate it is..

            I have the CHOICE to go out and shoot up people, but I think we can all agree that is not a choice that can be made…

          • Guest

            The question isn’t rather it’s a choice. The question is whether the fetus is in fact a life, and there’s scientific data to indicate it is..

            I have the CHOICE to go out and shoot up people, but I think we can all agree that is not a choice that can be made…

          • Bear1909

            So, 58 million aborted babies translates to 58 million women not being forced to die because they got pregnant? Hmmm. I can smell your whoppie from all the way over here, Dearie.

          • RichardSaperstein

            How many children are waiting to be adopted right now?

          • klockheed

            Again, what does the number of awaiting adoptions matter? There are plenty of couples who desire to adopt… the fact that there are kids awaiting adoption doesn’t add any moral support to the murder of others.

          • Freedom Girl

            Well, Jessie…..we all, now know, you have learned two new words this week…..hypothetical and actually.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Speaking of hypotheticals, you *ARE* aware that not only does the bill in question allow for health concerns of the mother, but so does *existing* Texas law?

            I mean, you wouldn’t be LYING about the situation in order to make your point, now would you?

          • Denna Freed

            Jessie – you are deluded. First of all, the majority of fatalities due to pregnancy occur in under developed countries. In developed countries the instance of fatalities related to pregnancy are relatively small. There are four major causes – severe bleeding, infection, high blood pressure, and ABORTION. So, according to the WHO website – the statistics for pregnancy related fatality in a developed country are 1 in 4000!!! And 13 PERCENT OF THOSE FATALITIES ARE ATTRIBUTABLE TO ABORTION!!!!!
            You are 10,000 times more likely to die of heart disease, cancer or diabetes than you are to die from complications of childbirth.
            Again, straight from the WHO website.
            Before you go spouting off nonsense about how childbirth is “condemning a woman to death” perhaps you might want to perform some REAL research – instead of bull crap from the NOW website or lizblogpregnancy misinformation – and perhaps you might learn something!

          • lauraannj322

            Delivering a child early by C-Section is much safer than enduring a late-term abortion.

          • disqus_JrmQ5pY4h7

            Cite the medical research or it’s bullshit.

          • Denna Freed

            Did you read my post – I did cite the research – WHO – the World Health Organization.

          • disqus_JrmQ5pY4h7

            I was referring to the original comment, not you.

          • captbob123

            EVERY REAL MOTHER WOULD AS SURE AS THE SUN WILL COME UP TOMORROW

          • Scipio R. Sholars II

            Are you kidding me Kathy?

            Kathy, not EVERY story of Adoption is pretty. There are people that have taken adopted kids to abuse, neglect, molest, enslave, traffic and etc.

          • Wes

            How many women do you know that were raped and got pregnant liar?

          • pepjrp

            And we understand that you decided to kill someone. That isn’t gonna fly as you will see too.

          • Hiraghm

            I’m not a religious zealot, but I don’t understand why it’s okay to murder a baby just because s/he’s the result of rape or incest.

            Certainly a mother has the right of self-defense if the pregnancy endangers her life.

          • Scottrey

            “Almost every republican, sans the reliigous zealots”

            wow! divide much?
            the instances you speak of are less than 02.% so you want to take away 1 out of every 10,000 of the kids Wendy thinks should have been aborted? classless.

          • jetch

            so is the real solution abortions on demand? or more severe punishments for rapists?? I’ll bet you get far more support for punishment of rapists from the right than you will from the left.

          • Theresa Easley

            The Left wants you to puke or pee on the rapist…or blow your rape whistle.

          • Jazzee

            yepper can you believe it?? Or just say please go away
            watch the video of the poor lady from Jersey who got the hell beat out of her by a guy who bashed into her home
            while her child sat there………bet she wished she owned a gun this man really hurt this woman

          • RichardSaperstein

            Hey we don’t have time to focus on things like this. We need to divert our resources to telling people how they should live their lives. Heaven forbid if we actually focused on the real problems in this world.

          • klockheed

            The murder of innocent children isn’t a real problem? What is a real problem, who you’re gonna vote for on American Idol?!

          • Catchance

            Nikki, abortion was legal in the case of rape before Roe vs. Wade ever occurred. I may not personally abort, as I feel it is not the child’s fault and there are many people waiting to adopt, BUT I would never condemn you for it, either, and most of us do not. Let me ask you, though, how far along were you when you aborted? This thread is talking about abortions done after 20 weeks.

          • Michael Fasani

            Nice explanation Catchance. I am against abortion, but would never demand that it be outlawed entirely because of rape and incest. I wouldn’t say it’s OK then, but I would allow the mother the choice and hope she would consider the spiritual aspect. That is ultimately between her and God. I know Christians that share my view, and some that are more towards the extreme. But the casual disregard for human life after night of casual sex is disturbing.

          • klockheed

            Catchance – do you also believe that victims of violent crimes should be allowed to murder their attackers and innocent bystanders?

          • Catchance

            ???
            What are you talking about? That makes no sense.

        • KayGee

          1% seems unrealistically low given the prevalence of sexual assault, as well as how many of them go unreported. If that’s the case, I guess women really do have a way of “shutting that whole thing down”.

          • James Cupp

            The lady can still get the abortion in the first 20 weeks.

          • Larry

            Hard to believe it would take 20 weeks to know if they have made up the’re mind huh

          • Jazzee

            20 weeks it is 5 dang months………….it is a baby wow and they still whine they don’t want restrictions
            sad country we live in
            kids getting condoms and abortion advice from schools told what to eat, but they can’t read or function
            the dictator in the white house is taking control of our lives and all anyone does is ignore it…………………it’s gonna get ugly big time

          • Hiraghm

            That would be the most generous use of the term “lady” I’ve heard in recent years…

          • Damien Johnson

            Yes, a republican said something idiotic and stupid. Yet, a prominent planned parenthood staffer suggested women won’t get raped with better sex education. The “war on women” hypocrites are silent on that one.

          • Margie

            It’s a wicked sticker cover path to walk when you try to use sex education as a tool against a guy wanting to have sex with a girl. Educate him all you want it will do no good, because very well educated men rape woman just as much.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            “a guy wanting to have sex with a girl”

            Thanks for reminding everyone that conservatives like you have no idea what rape is.

          • Noah

            yowza.
            So, how have things been since your acquittal mr. William Kennedy Smith?

          • Hiraghm

            Maybe that’s because we’re not as prone to it as progressives like you?

            Rape rape

          • mike_in_kosovo

            what rape is

            It’s that thing that happens in OWS tents, right?

          • Margie

            I do in fact know what rape is. it is a guy wanting to have sex with a girl. Did I say consensual sex? Did I say a guy and girl having sex? Did I say a girl asking a guy to have sex with her? No I specifically said a guy wanting to have sex with a girl. Can you logically explain what rape is without a guy wanting to have sex with a girl? is rape or is rape not a sexual assault? Does not the man sometimes impregnate the girl? (a sign of sex) Does he have to actually hurt her otherwise no, just hold her down. it is FORCED sex, but sex none the less.

          • Hiraghm

            Right, but boys raised to be morally upright MEN of character won’t rape women.

          • Bear1909

            But of course. We need not distract them from their game of American Candy Land. Fun for the whole family. Well, sort of except for the slaughtered embryo part of the family. You know. Like. Wow.

        • Mary Brown Vaughan

          Perfectly stated Olivia. Touche. :o)

        • maxumride

          you are sick…

          • Garry Barrett

            how so?

        • Larry

          Rape is a lame excuse to use for abortion when there are the morning after pill available. Some just want that right to abort whenever they feel like it.

          • Damien Johnson

            Hmm. That’s a good point. but everything is rape to these people. Imagine what would happen once they find out how many abortions are actually borne of rape…

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Rape just gives them a way to justify abortion even though pregnancy from rape is very rare.

        • Maurizme

          I’m wondering if that happens as much as you would think with all the arguments – If this was you, I’m sorry – I’m also sorry for your loss. Rape is tragic – so is death.

      • Kareem J. Lanier

        Really? Children are not forced on you. How evil.

        • abudoggie

          According to Mr. Obama, children are punishment, as in, “I wouldn’t want my daughter to be punished with a baby.” That must have made his daughters feel great.

          • MOFO

            Punishment enough is having Him for a dad…

          • Bear1909

            I don’t want the human race punished with any more progeny of the Wookie and Barkie Soetoro line. We can’t afford them. Binge spenders. Foie gras eating, $5000 panty wearing, bath house gaming, down low huffin’, grifters. There’s something in the DNA i tell ya. The dotters have become prized Irish setters like Chelsea Clintoon….total airheads destined for Oxford and faux degrees in made up subjects like “oublic health.”

        • Jessie Saunders

          Children aren’t forced on women who are do not consent to become impregnated and/or give birth but are made to do so against their will?

          What else could you possibly call it?

          • Catchance

            How about the choice between parenting and adoption? Or is it that you just feel a woman shouldn’t be forced to carry a baby around in her womb for 9 months? She might get fat? She won’t be able to party? In that case, why is she even waiting for 20 weeks, which is what this whole thread is about.

          • Bear1909

            How about the choice between accepting responsibility for breeding with a clod hopping stooge in the first place, not protecting against “getting impregnated” (omg) in the second place, and deciding that human biology is capable of procreating non-human biology that can be snuffed out with impunity because a group of swingin dicks on the SCOTUS ruled as they did on Roe v Wade way backo when? How about them apples? Let’s begin the debate at the beginning shall we? This isn’t about “choice”…. it’s about acting like a human being with a brain capable of higher reasoning with a value set focused on elevating the defense of the helpless OVER a belief that “guilt and worry-free sexual conduct” is not only a “need” but a “basic human right.” What a bunch of liberal puke.

          • Denna Freed

            ohhhhhh bear – I DO like you!!!!

          • TxNCalGirl

            Choice is choosing a form of birth control and using it! There are dozens of methods that don’t involve murder.

          • Bear1909

            In your case Jessie, I call it a waste of good money on trying to edjumahcate you and teech you how to reed n rat. What planet do you live on and how do you manage to pay your bills while being such an illiterate? Just sayin…

      • merrillgirl

        Or maybe the question is “how does your irresponsibility/lack of conscience make you aborting me ok” (said from the womb)

        • Damien Johnson

          ok, that’s waaaaay better than what i said. hell that’s the best one period. Ladies and Gents, stop replying, we have a winner!

        • Jeremy

          winner winner chicken dinner

        • Scott Raively

          It certainly sounds like a question a baby with no knowledge of how the world actually works would ask, so saying “asjed from the whom” fits perfectly.

      • Damien Johnson

        Or maybe the question is, “how many children should you be forced to have against your will?”

        However many got there by her willingly allowing a penis to enter in the first place.

        • mamaj

          Most. Only a VERY small percentage is actually a result of such a traumatic incident. Most abortions are a result of irresponsibility. A “oh, now that’s a surprise” approach. And, unfortunately, we have arrived on the completely calloused “if I get pregnant, I will just kill, er “terminate” it.

          • Damien Johnson

            That’s right. In addition to rape abortions being so few, there’s a disturbingly large number of couples who aborted their child because they were no longer together.

          • Maurizme

            This is such a promiscuous society, for lack of a better word. I guess we’ve cheapened sex to the point where the natural result of such actions, a child, is at risk. If we had a proper attitude toward sex, and understood that this act can and often does result in offspring, maybe it wouldn’t be necessary to have a huge debate about abortion.

          • Damien Johnson

            the cheaper attitude towards sex also killed the family. Men don’t want to get married now that they can get sex outside of it. Women can’t get married because even the most whorish man that gets ready to settle down, will not marry a woman who has had multiple partners despite that he did so himself.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            “Men don’t want to get married now that they can get sex outside of it. ”
            How dare we cheapen sex from what it is meant for, trapping men into marriages and families that they don’t want.

          • KayGee

            The Akin effect is strong with this thread.

        • GracieW

          Although this plays into the pro-aborts’ argument that we want to “punish women for having sex”. It also insinuates that children conceived by rape are somehow fair game to be aborted.

          • widower9

            Or that they are immoral or sub-standard or sub-human. They can give their “rape” baby to me. I’ll gladly love it and raise it to be a productive member of society, God helping me.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            So you’re ok with being raped, therefore everyone else should be? Good luck with that.

          • Noah

            once again (for the cheap seats): how many women that have been raped and gotten pregnant as a result of that rape choose to wait until after 20 weeks to have an abortion?

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Just *where* did she say she was ok with being raped or that anyone else should be?

            Are you TRULY that incapable of understanding plain English?

        • sgb1

          The irresponsibility comes in the failure to use birth control.

          • Damien Johnson

            If we give them free birth control and they STILL have abortions, then we know they’re just full of shit.

          • Jessie Saunders

            They? As in women? You know, the people whose bodies we are actually discussing? ‘We’ as in you? Because ‘we’ women don’t have to wait to discover who is full of shit: condescending men who believe it is an act of personal benevolence to ‘allow’ women’s health to be funded publicly.

          • Damien Johnson

            So I bet you demand free birth control in one breath, but proclaim you’re so independent in another, right?

            also, time and time again I need to say this. The baby = NOT your body. Selfish hag. Also; grow up and stop blaming men for your failings.

          • Garry Barrett

            women’s health? call it what it really is for once. no I don’t want to fund you killing babies, period. woman have access to all the healthcare they could ever want. women like you have long forgotten your role as a nurturer & protector of children. now if it inconveniences you in any way you just want to get rid of it. be honest with yourself, can you at least do that? the longer I watched those people screeching in the capital the other night the more they started to look like demons and witches around a cauldron calling for blood. this society has lost its very soul. go ahead call me whatever names you like, I’m so over you evil people.

          • Hiraghm

            woman have access to all the healthcare they could ever want. women like you have long forgotten your role as a nurturer & protector of children.

            Some of that is the confusion of gender roles, such as women being sent into combat (as Geraldine Ferraro laughingly promised us could never happen, back in ’83).
            It’s a woman’s natural role to be nurturer, but it’s a man’s natural role to be protector. Men have a paternal instinct just as women have a maternal instinct, and both are being suppressed and warped to advance the progressive agenda.

          • Denna Freed

            Abso-freaking-utely spot on, Hiraghm!!!

          • Catchance

            Oh, just stop with your stupid war on men, as if their opinion doesn’t count absent a uterus. And don’t use “we” in your arguments. I have a uterus, and I believe killing your own baby is heinous, and If you decide to wait until over 20 weeks to do it, that’s even worse. If you want to consider it a “Choice” the choices are whether to be abstinent, use birth control, or carry the baby to term if pregnant.

          • Damien Johnson

            Tell it sister!

          • Hiraghm

            “allow” women’s health to be funded publicly?
            When it’s MY money you’re talking about (which is what public, tax-payer funding is), you darn right it’s a question of “allow”.

            You’re discussing TWO people’s bodies; the woman who either flopped on her back willingly, or was raped, and the child conceived of that act.

          • Denna Freed

            I – as in me, as in a woman, would say to they, as in you, as in another woman – that you ARE full of shit!!! I, as in me, as in a woman, was raised to believe that I, as in me, as in a woman, has a personal responsibility to take care of my own body. I, as in me, as in a woman, was taught that if I didn’t want to get pregnant I better damn well make sure that either I was on birth control, or the man had a condom, or there was some spermicide, the sponge, or an IUD in place to prevent I, as in me, as in a woman, from becoming pregnant.

            With your attitude toward men I am fairly sure that you have no need to worry about getting pregnant as your hatred of men would indicate that you partner isn’t capable of impregnating you without the assistance of a turkey baster!!!

            Ah shit – there I went and opened the door for all the card carrying NOW members to jump on the bandwagon

          • Bathing Suit Area

            If we make helmets available for free, will you be ok with banning hospitals from treating head wounds?

          • Hiraghm

            Just how are you going to make helmets available for free?
            Slave labor?

          • Denna Freed

            You must truly live in a land of bliss – because your ignorance is beyond belief!

          • Bear1909

            The irresponsibility comes in the failure to give up the booze, the pills, the blow, and the weed while insisting on receiving a specific form of male approval, you know, obedience to the penile code.

        • Larry

          Y’all get that people. If you can’t be Responsible keep you’re legs closed.

        • Bear1909

          The only choice that matters in all of the hypothetical sexual misconduct of MOST women who get knocked up when they don’t want to is—- do I let Dexter haul my panties down and ram it home until he plays little fireman time in my gynee— OR NOT. Invoking the conditions of rape to discuss the CONVENIENCE OF ABORTION ON DEMAND is absurd on its face. I know more than 3o women who’ve had the baby after rape— 3 kept the child and do not “relive” the rape every time they look at the child. Women who have raised normal healthy kids with their husbands on the other hand…i know plenty who resent having bred with the SOB in the first place and resent the hell out of their ungrateful cur offspring. Very very common. Just sayin’.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Wow, so anti sex. I pity any woman who lets you near her.

        • Bathing Suit Area

          Holy crap, a woman willingly allowed a penis inside her? Guess she loses all rights to an opinion on what happens inside her after that!

          • Damien Johnson

            if it was willing and not rape, then YES! because it’s a LIFE! She should not have been f*cking without birth control if she did not want the risk of pregnancy! The answer is YES! Now you get it!

          • Hiraghm

            Once a woman willingly allows a penis inside her, she accepts responsibility for the result. Murdering the natural result of performing the act which created a baby is an attempt to evade that responsibility.

      • http://redstate.com/ midwestconservative

        No body is advocating forcing any woman to have sex ( which is what results in a child).

      • DList

        None and what does that have to do with it? Who is forcing women to have babies? And how is that an argument for late term abortion? BTW we have laws for abortion and rape/incest etc.

        • mamaj

          In the case of incest or rape, which it rarely is, is abortion/homicide really the best option to alleviate the emotional distress associated with rape/incest. I’m sure there are other ways . . .

          • Ronald Green

            Sometimes it is. I know of a case where a brother and sister, both mentally handicapped, made a baby…. Let’s just say the whole indecent wasn’t pretty and resulted in an abortion at around 8 weeks. Or would you suggest that wasn’t a correct decision?

          • newlight

            Ronald; of the 56,000,000 babies aborted, how many stories like yours do you think were the reason? And if yours is the only one, why punish a child from it’s life?

          • Ronald Green

            You assume way too much. Mamj says no abortion, ever, there are ‘other ways’. In my factual example, I asked her if her ‘never’ applied here. You assumed therefore, that I am pro-abortion and you assumed incorrectly. I believe that for the most part abortion is wrong. However, there are circumstances; such as this example, where it is appropriate, but even in this example, not after 20 weeks. Make you feel better now?

          • Hiraghm

            Not being a eugenicist, no, I wouldn’t.

            Hey, let’s go there…

            Spay or neuter your teen… if it’s the loving choice for pets, why not for children?

          • Ronald Green

            Did you miss the “mentally handicapped” part or are you for incestuous relationships between brother and sister?

          • Hiraghm

            You said they made a baby, you didn’t say they had a relationship. Why should the baby be murdered? Unless you’re a eugenicist who wants to control which genes get passed on?

          • Ronald Green

            Did you bother to read the original comment before putting your foot in your mouth or do you just like the taste of canvas? “brother and sister” kind of says they are closely related and have a relationship. On top of that they are both greatly mentally handicapped. Sorry that is so difficult for you. Their parents elected to end the pregnancy, not me. But I do concur with their choice. Got anything more of any intellect or do you wish to keep make your false accusations?

      • 96er

        you do know what causes it, right?

      • Lucysjazz

        Really!!! Medford are you nuts or just ignorant.

      • Grace656

        As many that result from sex you choose to have without utilizing contraception. Hopefully, though, with that lovely attitude you will also choose to give them a home where someone will actually love and cherish them.

      • Erik Bixby

        Children are the result of sexual intercourse. If the sex wasn’t forced, there shouldn’t even be a discussion about having the child.

      • CrossHugger

        Question is how many guys do you sleep with and take the Russian roulette approach to biology…..then kill the innocent victim of your ineptitude………….how sorry and pathetic

      • Dumbfounded

        Forced to have against your will??? The ONLY circumstance I can see where this would apply would be in the case of a rape victim and shame on you for using their tragic situation to support your ignorant statement.

        • Denna Freed

          Dumbfounded – your comment was the very definition of “ignorant!” Erik wasn’t “using their tragic situation” to support a statement. His statement was very clear and to the point – if you are forced against your will to have sexual intercourse then you cannot – obviously!!! – take precautions to prevent pregnancy. Otherwise, you should be a responsible adult and NOT have intercourse if you don’t have protection.
          How simple is that???

          • MissJames

            I think you made a mistake. Dumbfounded’s post was a direct reply to Medford,not Erik. Maybe his post fell under Erik’s and you ASSumed ,but it pays to look at the little arrow ; )

          • Denna Freed

            Thank you for the correction, Miss James – and my apologies to Dumbfounded – I thought your remark was directed at Erik!

          • Hiraghm

            Yeah, but no fetus ever raped anybody… yet they can get the death penalty for it.

      • boogsmama

        hey genius, 2 words: BIRTH CONTROL.

        • P. Douglas

          Hey, genius: it’s not 100% effective even when taken or used with scrupulous care. The alternative for all you Puritans is no sex at all, apparently. What a charming little dichotomy you have going for yourselves: woman as joyless virgin or broodmare. Either way, her status as an individual is subordinated to something other than her own judgement about what’s best for her own life. The premise of Ingraham’s question proves it: her assumption is that someone (Davis, in this case) gets to decide whether a woman becomes or remains pregnant.

          • S W

            Whoever said that a virgin is “joyless”? As if having sex makes your life complete and FABULOUS?? Well, yes, sex with a man who loves and cherishes you enough to MARRY you can be a beautiful thing, but otherwise, it’s just fornication for physical pleasure. And furthermore, since when does having a child make you a “broodmare”? Most of us actually love our children and think of ourselves as “mothers.” Stop making unborn children pay for irresponsibility.

          • KayGee

            Broodmare you say? two words: Michelle Duggar. They are so committed to the quiverfull movement that she would rather risk depriving her existing children of their mother than take birth control for her own health and safety. She already miscarried her latest bundle and it almost cost her life as well. But hey, birth control is against God’s will, so they’ll keep trying for child number twentysomething until menopause or a good ol’ fashioned death by birth. now that’s freedom.

          • 1SkepticalChick

            It’s her choice.

          • Hiraghm

            I know of this actor. He was world famous, an iconic figure associated with an American folktale.

            He liked to play Polo.
            One day he played polo, had an accident, and was paralyzed from the neck down.

            Christopher Reeves spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair because of his choice. There was no political organization fighting for his right to play Polo without risk.

          • Damien Johnson

            You told her.

          • Hiraghm

            Heroin addicts have the same attitude toward non-drug-abusers. For the same reason.

          • fivegreatkids

            My last child was a ‘surprise’. What an absolute joy he has been for the entire family. If two people are willing to have sex then they need to be willing to accept the fact that a baby might result. You are correct-birth control isn’t 100% effective. If there is absolutely no way you could handle a baby then the two of you shouldn’t be having sex. Sex is wonderful with a caring, COMMITTED spouse — otherwise you are playing with fire imho.
            From the “broodmare” who wouldn’t give up any of her children for any price.

          • P. Douglas

            Sex can be wonderful with a caring, committed partner. What magical property is contained within a spouse that doesn’t appear between single people? Intimacy is only for married people? That’s a rhetorical question, by the way. I’m aware that conservatives in general traditionally consider sex a loathsome duty required by the marriage compact. That’s another benefit religion has wrought over the centuries. Those of us freed from those shackles realize that sex can be enjoyed by two people who love each other, regardless of whether they are married or not. And science means that we are no longer slaves to biology: a child does not have to result–or be a risk–from every sexual encounter. “Just fornication for physical pleasure” reveals the contempt in which sex is held by conservatives who argue that women be punished for daring to enjoy it for its own sake, instead of as a means to an end. By the way, most abortions are performed on married women, not singles. And you just reinforced my original point: you see women as either virgins or brood animals, not as complete individuals capable of enjoying sex as a celebration of their lives, values, and partners.

          • Jason Call

            Multiple studies have shown that married people have more fulfilling sex lives. Solicit me for a link, and I’ll find several, guaranteed. Just let me know.
            All your conjecture about other peoples motives deserves no response. Try some facts.

          • P. Douglas

            You mean, you have no answer.

          • Jason Call

            No, I’ll find some links since you’re still engaged in this. Stand by.
            Oh, wait–no answer to the profound psychological insights such as the brood-mare/virgin dichotomy, the typical religious person’s perception of sexuality, etc? Yeah, that was all garbage made up in your head and not worthy of argument–just so much unsubstantiated psychobabble.
            So, yeah: except for the foregoing categorical rejection, I have no answer.

          • Jason Call

            This link is representative: http://lifestyle.ca.msn.com/love-sex-relationships/whos-more-sexually-satisfied-married-or-single-women
            Many more can be found in the first couple pages of a Bing or Google search. Some are PDF’s that I preferred not to download.

          • 1SkepticalChick

            ” I’m aware that conservatives in general traditionally consider sex a loathsome duty required by the marriage compact.” Wow, you are circling the planet with that one. You are way too brainwashed to breathe on your own. Cut the cord and do your own thinking. You are spouting indoctrinated drool.

          • Hiraghm

            Boy are you full of crap.

            To answer your initial question, marriage is the commitment to be responsible for the relationship and whatever becomes of it. That’s why its important.

            Having seen some of the degrading, albeit “voluntary” extreme acts some promiscuous people have gone to in order to maximize their endorphin rush, I have realized that sex can be *enjoyed* by two or more people who don’t even know each other.
            (actually, sex can be enjoyed by a person by him or herself, as our brave new school system insists on teaching our children. At least this has the advantage of not making babies to be murdered).

            Except, sex isn’t about enjoyment. It’s enjoyable so we’ll do it.

          • P. Douglas

            A surprise? Isn’t that a little irresponsible and cavalier? Rational people understand the enormous responsibility and commitment involved in raising a child to adulthood and wouldn’t dream of producing one in such an offhand and accidental manner. You realize, of course, that you are making the case *for* the legality of abortion, at least for the first trimester? A single woman finding herself so surprised, and understanding the financial, temporal, and emotional demands of raising the little bundle, to say nothing of the physical risk of pregnancy, morally has every right to determine, based on her judgement of her circumstances, that she wants an abortion.

          • John Rebori

            Of course the point of this whole discussion is the legality of abortion after 20 weeks, well outside that “first trimester”. Way to stick to the topic.

          • Jason Call

            How many of your own babies have you killed in-utero?

          • P. Douglas

            What number would make you feel validated?

          • Jason Call

            Hmm. 20 would be great. Yeah. Will you please say 20? Ooh, baby, validate ME!

          • Hiraghm

            No, no sex out of wedlock… or the philosophy I adopted a long time ago, of not having sex with a woman I wasn’t willing to marry and raise a child with.
            So long as you’re willing to marry the man or woman and raise children with him or her… have all the sex you want.

      • Michelle Sampson Merritt

        how about taking care of it before hand so you don’t end up in that situation to begin with! All it takes is a little responsibility and self control.

        • Denna Freed

          Unfortunately in today’s society the word “responsibility” seems to have some evil definition that you and I are unaware of!!! I blame it on what I call the “participation award mentality.” We’ve taught – or ALLOWED our kids to be taught! – that you don’t have to take responsibility or work hard to get what you want – it will be given to you anyway. So to expect them to take responsibility for their actions now is considered the very height of meanness!!!

          • Bathing Suit Area

            That’s why I’m campaigning to have all hospital emergency rooms banned. They’re just a crutch for people who won’t take responsibility for their own safety. If you tried, you could go through life never getting hurt by anything. Why should a bunch of doctors have to work to help you avoid the consequences of you wanting to leave your genetically sealed bubble without full body armor?

          • Denna Freed

            I am completely confused…

          • Denna Freed

            You do realize that what you posted makes absolutely NO sense, right? You can’t help falling downstairs and breaking your leg – but you CAN prevent falling into bed with your legs spread if you don’t have protection to prevent pregnancy!!! Liberal morons….

      • Jim Trout

        Uh… If I’m not mistaken, you have control of this from the beginning! What is it you don’t understand about personal responsibility?

      • neoface

        It’s called birth control pills or methods, no one has to have unwanted children. We are not in the dark ages, and know how babies are conceived.

        • BitsyBet

          Amen! And with the risk of HIV and the many other STDs, who wants to take the risk? It’s crazy to think that there are women out there still having promiscuous sex.

        • Tricia Peterson Davis

          what happened to women giving their babies up for adoption? Even in rape situations, there are so many couple wanting to raise children.

        • SturJen

          There’s also this really cool thing called, “Don’t have sex.” Also another one called “Know when you’re fertile and refrain from sex then.” But these two things require something that apparently human beings are lacking: Self-Control.

          • newlight

            SturJen; actually self control is one of the Spiritual gifts Gal-5:22 and we all know where USA has gone spiritually, just look at the recent Surpreme Court decisions.

          • neoface

            I believe it’s called the rhythm method, don’t they teach that in sex ed anymore???

        • KayGee

          Let me help you tow the line more faithfully: But birth control is against God’s will, and sex outside of procreation is a sin even for married couples so abstinence is the only way to go!

          • fivegreatkids

            Have you talked to God lately? Is that what He told you? You might want to read some of His prophet’s words for the real story.

      • B H

        That is the most ridiculous question I’ve ever heard, especially in this case. First of all, responsible women prevent unwanted pregnancies. Second, late term abortions are abhorrent and barbaric. We are better than that.

        • Robin Rountree

          Yea and I bet old Medford is against the death penalty like all good libs.

        • Falcon D. Stormvoice

          We want to be. But if you go to rawstory.com, you get to see how many of us are casually doing the backstroke in the collective amassed blood of our unborn children.

      • Lisa D’Amico Gentile

        If you are pregnant – did you or did you not knowingly participate in the ONLY activity that could make you pregnant?? So if it is your “will” to not get pregnant, then don’t!!! If you don’t want ice cream, you don’t buy it, right?

      • Vickitoe

        Let’s not feed the trolls.

        • Jason Call

          Can’t help it. I’m excitable, they all say.

      • Carry

        No one forces anyone to get pregnant. Pregnancy is a result of a personal decision to have a child. It is a planned activity of two persons of child barring age. It is not an accident, since any intelligent person having sex knows that birth control is not 100% and that more than one form of birth control should be used in conjunction with understanding of the female bodies reproduction system–and there products on the market that provide that information when a female is ovulating. There is no reason in this time and age for there to be unwanted pregnancies and the abortion rate should be much lower but the opposite has occurred. Females are using abortion as a form of birth control when it is a means to ending a life because the female is still giving birth but to a dead baby. One she has sentence to death due to her failure to exercise moral and intelligent judgement.

      • SunGodAZ

        Or maybe the question is, “Why does an unborn child get the Death Penalty due to irresponsible “parents” ?

      • stayedawakeinschool

        “againt your will”…???????? Don’t how to break this to you…so I’ll be direct….IT’s sex….not a stork…not Republicans…not even a Republican stork…that’s where babies come from …. good ole fashion sex…too bad they don’t hve birth control available to the masses…oh wait!!!

        • nc

          Republican Stork, good one!

        • Damien Johnson

          Ok, that’s gold. Nicely done snark.

      • OLLPOH ~ America

        Have you no conscience?

      • Kathleen

        Maybe you should learn to keep your legs closed once in awhile!

        • Jason Call

          That turns me on.

      • http://KaterinaGasset.com CoachKaterina

        against your will? if you don’t know how babies get inside the womb then you need some help, big time! There is no pregnancy unless you are raped that is against the will- because you are the one who opened your legs. There is action and then there are consequences to that action. You can not skirt around the law of consequences which is universal. You do A = B happens.

      • GracieW

        As many children as you conceive…children shouldn’t be put to death EVER.

      • JenB

        If you are afraid that you will be forced to have a baby against your will, maybe you should avoid sex.

      • George Stephens

        Or, maybe the question is How long does it take a sane person to figure out how to control that process?

      • Tony Reynolds

        Ya you’re right… the gene pool you’re toting around needs to end with you.

      • MissJames

        Sex isn’t mandatory .

      • MrInterpid

        You don’t have to have any. Tubal ligation is performed everyday. If you don’t want kids get your tubes tied. DUH.

        • suz73

          How ’bout a vasectomy? It goes both ways!!!

          • Jason Call

            Now THAT’s just crazy talk.

        • P. Douglas

          Forgetting about the people who want kids…but not yet.

          • Noah

            then buy some phucking rubbers!!

      • OLLPOH ~ America

        question: if you were aborted and we were aborted would we be having this conversation?
        Life is to be entered upon with courage.
        Alexis de Tocqueville

        • Jason Call

          “We and the world, my children, will always be at war.
          Retreat is impossible.
          Arm yourselves.”
          ― Leif Enger, Peace Like a River

          I love “Prayer at Valley Forge.” To me, it’s as distinctive as the Mona Lisa.

      • aclay777

        hey, news flash, they have birth control in all shapes and sizes, and adoption, being late term, they only have a few month to donate for a life.

      • RioSam

        Nobody is forcing anyone to have children…..all they need to do is use birth control….ya know? I’m sure you’ve heard of it….and it you don’t use B C then deal with the other reality…it’s called taking responsibility for your actions!! Taking responsibility doesn’t mean you have the right to take a life because it’s existence is an inconvenience for you……

      • detroit19

        “…against your will?” We had three children, exactly the number we wanted to have, using birth control in between then hubby had a vasectomy after the last. ZERO abortions. Pregnancy is rarely against your will.

        • P. Douglas

          Apparently that’s not quite true, or there wouldn’t be a need for abortions.

      • Randy Swain

        You don’t use protection, DUH!!!! Or maybe just don’t do it!

      • Billie Slash

        Unless the sex was against your will, STFU!

      • John_Sinropa

        Depends on your definition of the word ‘forced’.

      • ChiTownGal

        None, if you take responsibility, and use protection. This, of course, does not include rape, incest or health of the mother. Sorry, but abortion is NOT a form of birth control. EVER.

      • abudoggie

        What does that have to do with LATE TERM abortion? If you don’t want to be “forced” to carry that child to term and give it a chance to live a happy, constructive life, can’t you decide to kill it BEFORE 20 weeks? As an adopted daughter, all I can say is “Thank you, God, that my birth mother was a courageous, loving, unselfish woman.”

      • Sean P Hamilton

        No one asked that question except for you. You are changing the real subject with nonsense.

        No one is forced to have a child, the issue is abortion by women who didn’t have enough decency to abstain till she was ready to produce, or enough sense to at least practice safe sex…

        I thought women were supposed to be smarter and more mature than men? WHy can’t women seem to control themselves enough to properly perform sexual acts without risking unwanted pregnancy?

      • Linda

        Who forces anyone to have a child against their will….it was their will to have sex, it was their will to not use birth control….why murder innocent children against their will because of pathetic women who can’t be bothered to use birth control?

      • Beverly Golato

        Don’t get pregnant in the first place. Why should an unborn child have to pay for selfish behavior? No excuse for getting pregnant today.

      • James Cupp

        If you don’t want them, don’t make them

      • cantonst

        Medford_VA: Do you realize how stupid your question sounds? Or how stupid you assume women are?

      • Jason Call

        In your case, zero. Murder them in the womb so they don’t inconvenience you, okay? The law says you can. I remain baffled, however, that you can’t make up your mind to slaughter the poor little b@stard before 20 weeks of gestation. Even harder to figure, since I already paid for a professional Planned Parenthood abortionist to slay your baby. Will Wendy-whats-her-name and you and other geniuses ever lend your charismatic talents to helping pregnant women to make up their minds to suck their inconvenient offspring down a sink-drain before 20 weeks?
        Am I not being fair? Gosnell was wrong to execute full-term infants, right?
        So, what in the world do you want? 24 weeks? 40? 48? Is advocating for a 48-week limit heroic?
        Ay caramba.

      • Dianne Giddens

        If you don’t want them, don’t make them!

      • Catchance

        Or maybe the question is, “Why are you waiting until 20 weeks”?

      • Mike Karp

        In this day we live in, if you are STUPID enough to get pregnent, then you should have the child. Of course there are exceptions that we are all aware of, but if you thought you made a error in judgement by having unprotected sex and you were a willing partner,take the morning after pill. Why wait till there is a life growing.

      • Slugglife

        You are allowed to close your legs too.

      • pepjrp

        That doesn’t matter, you will still take that murder with you to your grave and will be held accountable, whether you believe that or not. You will see and be shocked.

      • mike_in_kosovo

        Or maybe the question is, “how many children should you be forced to have against your will?”

        Only to complete idiots.

      • http://enria.org/ Garry

        Who is forcing you to have sex to create that baby. It is a baby. Hearbeat starts at 18 days gestation. If you intentionally stop a human heart, that is normally called murder, or self defense.

      • hbnolikeee

        Or perhaps the question is
        “how many babies can you murder before they throw your sorry ass in jail?”

      • Opinari

        As many as you conceived consensually….

      • DJ

        The operating word in your question is………..children.

      • DJ

        The operating word in your question is…………children.

    • Medford_VA

      Or maybe the question is, “how many children should you be forced to have against your will?”

    • disgusted_with_government

      The irony would be lost on St. Senator Davis (as well as all of the other “War on Women” meme dispensers.

    • HoneyTree EvilEye

      This comment is as good as the tweet that spawned the story.

    • Jordyn1poppa

      Sounds like China’s war on baby girls. Boy only, no girl, get rid of it. Aren’t they still communist? Yes, I believe they are!

  • Lienathan

    It’s always struck me as ironic that those who want to determine who should or shouldn’t be allowed to be born all seem to have the benefit of having been born.

    • walterc

      And it’s always the same people that protest outside of prisons to keep convicted murderers, that have nothing to contribute to society, alive. Because life is sacred and government shouldn’t be in the business of killing people.

      • DebbieMormino

        Amazing that the perverts and criminals deserve more than an innocent child! SICKENING!

        • Julie Smock

          right! the unborn should get at least 3 appeals!

          • Orwellian_Dilemma

            Or a ten month “cooling off” period. . . .

      • MissJames

        or push gun control .

    • walterc

      And it’s always the same people that protest outside of prisons to keep convicted murderers, that have nothing to contribute to society, alive. Because life is sacred and government shouldn’t be in the business of killing people.

    • Douglas White

      The definition of hypocrisy. THEIR battle cry

    • Douglas White

      The definition of hypocrisy. THEIR battle cry

    • Giantfan3

      A Quote from Ronald Reagan, Please use quotes and give the man his proper credit thank you!

      • Lienathan

        Wasn’t quoting anybody, and wasn’t aware he had said that, but happy to give him credit for saying so. Great minds, and all.

    • Alan C Rohner

      You have to wonder what their response would be if someone wanted to take away that benefit.

    • 23anniebrown45

      Yes, it’s unfortunate… isn’t it?

  • Blake Waymire

    I don’t think the libs care at all. Just saw one on my FB feed who linked an article talking about Perry bringing the bill back in another special session, and said “And yet Texas just executed a woman today.”

    Because convicted criminals deserve life, but an unborn child does not.

    • Denna Freed

      That is EXACTLY how the lobbies feel!

    • BitsyBet

      We live in serious mixed up times. The murderer should be allowed to live, but we allow the innocent to die. These Pro-Choice people need to go back and do some research on the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, and her motives with establishing her “birth control clinics” in the minority communities.

  • Blake Waymire

    I don’t think the libs care at all. Just saw one on my FB feed who linked an article talking about Perry bringing the bill back in another special session, and said “And yet Texas just executed a woman today.”

    Because convicted criminals deserve life, but an unborn child does not.

  • froggy19510

    In the time it took Wendy Davis was done with her fillibuster there were 29 abortions commited in the state of Texas.

    • TocksNedlog

      At least.

    • TocksNedlog

      At least.

  • froggy19510

    In the time it took Wendy Davis was done with her fillibuster there were 29 abortions commited in the state of Texas.

  • TocksNedlog

    At one point in her filibuster did she invoke Gov. Wallace?
    “Baby-killing now, baby-killing tomorrow, baby-killing forever!”

    • Steven Howard

      Wallace would never have supported abortion.

  • TocksNedlog

    At one point in her filibuster did she invoke Gov. Wallace?
    “Baby-killing now, baby-killing tomorrow, baby-killing forever!”

  • ljam

    I wonder how her kid feels when she essentially says: “When I was 19,
    if I’d had the choice, I would have killed you.”. That’s gotta be a self-esteem booster. I wonder if her child supports abortion rights?

    This is truly one of the most morally bankrupt things I have ever seen/heard. The libs (and all of us) were all
    HORRIFIED when they saw what was happening to little girls in China 2
    decades ago, how is killing your child en-utero because you just don’t
    want them, any different?

  • ljam

    I wonder how her kid feels when she essentially says: “When I was 19,
    if I’d had the choice, I would have killed you.”. That’s gotta be a self-esteem booster. I wonder if her child supports abortion rights?

    This is truly one of the most morally bankrupt things I have ever seen/heard. The libs (and all of us) were all
    HORRIFIED when they saw what was happening to little girls in China 2
    decades ago, how is killing your child en-utero because you just don’t
    want them, any different?

  • jd

    When Laura replaces O’Reilly for an evening, I will watch the entire show.
    When it’s O’Reilly, I’ll watch ‘bits & pieces’.
    FNC should wise up & replace “Billy” w/Laura…then the 8pm FNC ratings would really soar!!

    • Steven Howard

      Bill has been number 1 for more than 10 year. Nuff said

    • neoface

      O’Reilly is only interested in rating and selling his books and shows!!!

      • Elizabeth Lyman

        Amen Neoface! That’s why I stopped watching him. Laura tops him hands down.

      • ChrisinOregon

        ALL the proceeds from Bill’s books go to charities just in case you did not know.

        • neoface

          not true only a dollar per book, I think you are referring to his merchandises that are sold online.

  • jd

    When Laura replaces O’Reilly for an evening, I will watch the entire show.
    When it’s O’Reilly, I’ll watch ‘bits & pieces’.
    FNC should wise up & replace “Billy” w/Laura…then the 8pm FNC ratings would really soar!!

  • john gill

    go away laura ingrham please go away……your whole style is UGLY…..

    • Douglas White

      Libtard trolls try so hard to be witty and funny. FAIL!

    • Douglas White

      Libtard trolls try so hard to be witty and funny. FAIL!

    • rickg62

      Can’t stand someone speaking the truth to the liberal hypocricy?

      • john gill

        one man’s truth is another man’s lies…..you call it truth , I call it bs and propaganda…enjoy :)

        • rickg62

          I suppose MSNBC is your bible?

          • Zane Henry

            As he said earlier, he doesn’t watch cable news. I guess he gets all his news from the paper? or maybe local broadcasts. Or maybe he just waits for the MMFA blast e-mails to tell him how to feel about stuff.

          • William Robert Guerra

            dear mr. gill also thinks paula dean should be hung for something she said 26 years ago…

  • john gill

    go away laura ingrham please go away……your whole style is UGLY…..

  • neoface

    These libtards cry over death of Sandy Hook elementary students, yet they cheered to abort babies. Is that hypocrisy????

    • Lienathan

      Yes. Next question.

    • Lienathan

      Yes. Next question.

    • jasonacg

      It’s because the media presented it wrong. If they said that the gunman (whatever his name was) “performed 26 late-term abortions,” then the left would have petitioned for a holiday in this guy’s honor.

  • John Sawyer

    But if it can save just one childs life?!?!?!– how can people who are for the killing of babies say that with a straight face when talking about gun control!!

  • John Sawyer

    But if it can save just one childs life?!?!?!– how can people who are for the killing of babies say that with a straight face when talking about gun control!!

  • Salt Guy Himalayas

    Fact…unborn fetus feels pain after 20 weeks. I thought Obama was against torture.

    • nc

      He was for it before he was against it…or something.

  • Salt Guy Himalayas

    Fact…unborn fetus feels pain after 20 weeks. I thought Obama was against torture.

  • Doug Williams

    Fox needs to replace Bill with Laura

    • jasonacg

      The ratings beg to diifer…

      • john gill

        How can yall watch that crap….?Do you watch it because he/she makes you feel good? It;s not news….its more like the TMZ of politics

        • Doug Williams

          feel the pain,libby

          • john gill

            I don’t watch cable news……its a joke …

          • focusthis

            So you do watch the lying propaganda lame brain media? Lolololololol

          • rickg62

            So you depend on news such as NBC and their penchant for selectively distorting edited video?

        • Doug Williams

          feel the pain,libby

        • Douglas White

          John, do you work for MSNBC?

        • Douglas White

          John, do you work for MSNBC?

        • Tracy Hubbell-Linden

          That’s right, it’s not news. It’s political punditry. Opinion. Anyone with a brain knows that. MSLSD poses as news all the time when in fact they’re nothing BUT opinion disguised as new. Charlatans. Next.

        • Denna Freed

          John, I was you, once upon a time. Then I educated myself. I stopped listening to the “news” and I started doing my own research. Guess what? When I figured out that the msm is all about manipulations, subterfuge and out right lies – I changed my whole outlook on life!!!
          Try it – you might actually like the person you are when you start thinking for yourself!!!

          • nc

            Yay!!!

      • john gill

        How can yall watch that crap….?Do you watch it because he/she makes you feel good? It;s not news….its more like the TMZ of politics

      • constitutionalsoldier

        Have her alternate days with O’Reilly, let’s see. Once O had his interview with the other O, he has never been the same. Suspect Obama has something on him or O’Reilly has been bought.

        • Douglas White

          Funny, I remember Obunghole looking like an idiot when he couldn’t mention one name of a Right Winger that he claimed to know on a particular issue. Obunghole looked like a deer in the headlights. Would you like to see the video?

        • Douglas White
      • constitutionalsoldier

        Have her alternate days with O’Reilly, let’s see. Once O had his interview with the other O, he has never been the same. Suspect Obama has something on him or O’Reilly has been bought.

      • mickeyco

        Maybe, but I’ve refused to watch O’Reilly for years. Smug, arrogant, nasty piece of work.

    • jasonacg

      The ratings beg to diifer…

  • CaptainWhitebread

    You’re confusing passion and conviction for hate and rage.

    • john gill

      O she has passion, I will give you that……but there is a lot of hate in her voice….

      • CaptainWhitebread

        Then one of us needs their hearing checked.

      • CaptainWhitebread

        Then one of us needs their hearing checked.

      • Noah

        nope, no hate over at msnbc. no siree, not at all. you kiddin’ me?!!

        • john gill

          I dont watch msnbc/fox or cnn..thats not news, its entertainment kind of like TMZ…..if you get your info from any of those stations , you are lost…..

          • focusthis

            If you watch the lame brain propaganda media you are a true blue moron.

          • MrInterpid

            A person with no spiritual or moral compass to guide their life is truly lost. Seems like you fit the bill.

      • Brian Hager

        John,
        Please point out the HATE in her voice!!! The Liberal Progressives have overused and misunderstood the word HATE! I recommend that all Liberal Progressives take a course on the Websters Dictionary!! When someone’s point of view is different from yours, it does not mean that they HATE!

        • MrInterpid

          I would suggest that the hate in her voice is for the act of bloody murder that is abortion. We are called not to hate people but to hate unrighteous acts. Abortionists and their “clients” are to be pitied because they are spiritually and mentally ill but the act is to be hated in the extreme.

      • William Robert Guerra

        sounds like YOU are the one full of hate and rage…how about the extreme left get over it, butt out of ppl’s lives and stop giving advice and telling ppl how they should live their lives? what rock do you live under? and anyone with sense wants to cut food stamps – it DOESN’T go to kids, they get sold and exchanged so mommy can buy more drugs…

      • MrInterpid

        Probably because like all sane people she hates unrighteousness. We are all called by decency to hate murder, theft, perjury jealousy and greed. Abortion is bloody heinous murder of the most innocent among us. If you don’t hate these things I suggest you examine your basic belief system for large flaws.

    • john gill

      O she has passion, I will give you that……but there is a lot of hate in her voice….

  • CaptainWhitebread

    You’re confusing passion and conviction for hate and rage.

  • David Johnson

    Laura Ingraham ROCKS. Hopefully they change the locks on the door of the O’Reilly Factor so She can takes over the show!

    • WeNeedWisdom

      YES – I would start watching it again! I can only tolerate the Miller Time segment now.

  • David Johnson

    Laura Ingraham ROCKS. Hopefully they change the locks on the door of the O’Reilly Factor so She can takes over the show!

  • Medford_VA

    Or maybe you ask Laura, “how many children should you be forced to have against your will?”

    • Guest

      Have the will for self control and you wouldn’t be FORCED to have a child. Are you also saying that you are someone that couldn’t make up their mind in the first 20 weeks?

    • rickg62

      Try ‘how many times should you be stupid or careless enough to get pregnant in the first place?”

      • Denna Freed

        Amen, Rick!!! Remember the anti-drug slogan? “Just say NO!!!”

    • http://www.amazon.com/Devon-Dibley-His-Golden-Key/dp/1484181557/ M F Scotto

      So, you’re OK if we let parents kill their children if they decide they don’t want them? What age is Ok with you? “Happy 5th birthday, Susie! Um, we kinda changed our mind… Medford_VA will handle it from here.”
      You murderous butcher.

    • gingerdog

      How about asking Medford, “Have you ever heard of birth control, or, if you’re looking for something ‘free’, saying ‘no’?” Individual sovereignty. Be responsible for your own actions, and don’t ask/require me to pay for them.

    • neoface

      It’s called birth control pills or methods, no one has to have unwanted children. We are not in the dark ages, and know how babies are conceived.

    • Noah

      well, then get rid of it before the 20 week mark. boom. end of discussion.

      • tarandfeatherthecrooks

        Not an “it”, ever

    • Miketrt

      It’s called a friggin’ condom. Or pull out. Or don’t sleep around. So your question is a red herring. Look that up.

  • Medford_VA

    Or maybe you ask Laura, “how many children should you be forced to have against your will?”

  • Beiletti

    The real name for the bunch is MURDER INC…..

  • OliverBx

    Opposing the Murder of babies is not butting into innocent people’s lives. Foodstamps mostly go to low lifes who waste it on themselves and could give a rats a$ $ about children. Don’t you know what a hypocrite u are when you complain about cutting food stamps that you believe go to children, while defending the butchering of innocent children. You have the morals of Dr Josef Mengele…as does your president and entire party…Molon Labe

  • OliverBx

    Opposing the Murder of babies is not butting into innocent people’s lives. Foodstamps mostly go to low lifes who waste it on themselves and could give a rats a$ $ about children. Don’t you know what a hypocrite u are when you complain about cutting food stamps that you believe go to children, while defending the butchering of innocent children. You have the morals of Dr Josef Mengele…as does your president and entire party…Molon Labe

  • maxentropy

    It’s funny when leftists tell us to stay out of other people’s lives. I have leftist laws and regulations governing nearly everything that I do on a daily basis.
    Their concept of liberty is narrowly focused on killing the unborn and just born.

  • maxentropy

    It’s funny when leftists tell us to stay out of other people’s lives. I have leftist laws and regulations governing nearly everything that I do on a daily basis.
    Their concept of liberty is narrowly focused on killing the unborn and just born.

  • craig

    truth hurts,go watch msnbc john,if it wasn’t for FOX it’d be all one sided,go watch obama’s vacation smile

  • craig

    truth hurts,go watch msnbc john,if it wasn’t for FOX it’d be all one sided,go watch obama’s vacation smile

  • MrBadExample2

    I love to watch the Pro-Choice crowd cringe when I say, “Thank God abortion wasn’t legal when my Mom had me at 16, I likely would have been sucked into a sink.” The other thing that shows just how morally bankrupt and without principles they are ponder this logical extension of the concept that a woman “Owns her Body”. If that is so then it should be equally legal for an unwanted pregnancy to be brought full term, delivered and SOLD to the highest bidder. If a woman owns her body then a baby is merely product.

  • King Leer

    People should live their lives and not demand my money.

    • trixiewoobeans

      Another paid troll, probably. They came streaming out from under the bridge and hit Twitchy and other Conserv. sites once school ended. Probably their summer gig.

  • Richard A. Yarbrough II

    Gee john gill, you sure are a hypocritical gasbag aren’t you?

    You claim Ingraham is full of hate and rage…yet your posts are nothing BUT hate and rage. Get over yourself loser. You’re a far bigger “egotistical blowhag” than Ms. Ingraham is.

    Grow a brain sometime.

  • Dragomance

    If you don’t think that people shouldn’t tell others how to live their life,stop allowing people to end lives that have done nothing wrong other than being conceived by someone who cherishes their social life and/or career aspects more than the lives of their own family.

  • http://TexasFred.net/ TexasFred

    *Windy* Wendy Davis is the toast of the Libbers and Liberal media right now..

    That just goes to show you, Libbers are desperate for a hero…

  • J_R_E

    So just a question to those folks who love to proclaim “Keep your hands off my body”. By that logic, abortion at any time should be legal, up until birth. After all, that baby’s in my body. So keep your hands off!

    • Douglas White

      So ironic that all of the libtards have no picture next to their name on these posts. How about keep your legs closed, have some morals and just say no to sex, or birth control so you don’t have to make that choice to commit legalized murder. Try that for a hope and change.

      • J_R_E

        I’m against abortion, was just making a point. And didn’t vote for hope and change. My question is to those making that argument, when does the baby cease being apart of your body. By the way, I’d have my pic up if I could figure out how to.

    • Miketrt

      No, in Gosnell-land it’s even AFTER birth.

    • Kenneth James Abbott

      By that logic, the baby has the right for you to keep your hands off his or her body. So yes, keep your hands off!

  • DList

    Funny how you say they are full of hate and rage…apparently you don’t read your own bull

  • Givethatmanaquipydoll

    Why does the murder of defenseless children make Democrats feel superior, and I ask you the same question, why do Democrats feel the need to force the majority of Americans to support their sadistic bloody view of life. I guess wanting everyone to have a good paying job so they don’t need food stamps goes against the Democratic doctrine of destroying our economy

  • mbh2mt2d

    Have you listened to yourself or read what you have just written….YOU and your ILK are the ones who are full of hate! I have NEVER seen such hate for fellow man as what comes from the Left.

    • nc

      So true. The left bathes in the constant flow of propaganda from the media, academia and entertainment. But we on the right have maintained a constant national dialogue for decades, first through talk radio, and now supplemented with the Internet. And overwhelmingly, that conversation has been intelligent and civil, nothing at all like how the left paints us.

  • Bill Person

    I thought the most revealing question was if Planned Parenthood did Sonograms as part of their pre-abortion “counseling”? Think about it??—Last night sitting in for O’Reilly

  • walterc

    After an abortion, the mother lives on, the doctor lives on, who’s life is being affected?

    You’re confusing telling a mother that she can’t kill her baby before it’s born, and going on with her life as if nothing happened, with telling people how much soda they can drink. It’s the liberals that won’t get the fk out of peoples lives.

  • Ray Sexauer

    When the hell did wendy davis become a hero?

    • Miketrt

      Oh, look at the cackeling retards on the TX statehouse floor. There is your answer. Not to me, for sure.

  • gingerdog

    “Why do conservatives feel (the) need to guide or give advice or try an (and tell ppl (people) how they should live their life……?”
    Who passed a bill to FORCE people to buy and pay for others health care?
    Who is forcing religious organizations to pay for birth control and abortions?
    Who is forcing restaurants to post information prescribed and mandated by them, rather than requested by customers?
    Who forces Americans to hand over their hard-earned money in order to pay for sex-change operations for criminals?
    Who is forcing Americans to have black boxes on their cars?
    Who is killing Americans with CAFE standards? If I want to drive a big, safe SUV, I should have that choice.
    It is YOU, mr. gill who is the egotistical phony………….

  • Denna Freed

    Perhaps you should have followed the Gosnell trial and you might feel a tiny bit differently about abortion. Gosnell who? Oh, that’s right!!! The lame stream media didn’t cover the Gosnell trial because it wouldn’t have fit in with their pro abortion stance.
    Look it up – or find a video on late term abortion and see what REALLY happens when a baby is aborted at more than 20 weeks.
    Then get back to us about what is “ugly” and who the “haters” are….

    • ea

      He even aborted some that were closer to 30 weeks. I do sonograms and we have a very concise way of measuring a baby and calculating how far along the pregnancy is. I have seen abortions from just about every gestational age. When I lived in Hawaii years ago it was legal up to 29weeks6days. They had a lot of botched abortions and would put the baby in a storage room with no blankets to die. This was at a HOSPITAL! True story! Did you know obama would not support the Infant Born Alive Act when he was a senator in chicago? Basically saying if a baby is born alive it is okay to murder it!

      • nc

        I’m betting the turnover rate of the people working there was quite high. How could anyone live with that?

      • Denna Freed

        I know I’m going to hear it from the trolls, but the fact is that the Obamanation is evil – pure and simple…

  • Elsa

    Reagan: “I’ve notice that everyone who’s pro abortion has already been born’

    • neoface

      Maybe they wish they weren’t!

      • rickg62

        Chelsea Clinton recently said that she wishes abortion had been available during her grandmother’s time. Stupid comment or does she not like her mother?

        • neoface

          I don’t think she likes her life, her parents are an embarrassment and people think she got job because of her last name. Sometime money and fame, is not all that.

      • liberalssuck

        I think that is why most liberals are the way they are. They hate themselves. Shit do the world a favor take yourself out, just yourself.

  • richardcancemi

    It scares me to see a Wendy Davis get elected in Texas. Are we being infested with Progressives as with termites?
    These “late term abortion supporters” should witness the horrible murder these babies undergo. Have these women had all vestiges of motherhood instincts removed from them?

    • GoneFishing

      For them, the stigma of infanticide is eased when they call it something other than what it is, such as “women’s rights over their own bodies”. I would agree with them…if there wasn’t a 2nd ‘body’ involved. It’s a baby, not a ‘choice’.

  • Miketrt

    Really, REALLY? At 20 weeks the human is 10″ long and looks like a HUMAN. It has a face, arms, etc. What kind of friggin’ ghoul wants to kill this baby by sucking it’s brains out? Sick MF’s that will burn in hell. It’s called, “I got laid, gots pregnant and want no responsibility for nuthin'” A) you can detect pregnancy in 7-10 days or 21 days with a home test. So you either do it when it’s a cluster of non-distinguishable zygote-like cells or get off the crack pipe and give it up for adoption. And try not to get herpes while you are at it. Lots of these abortions are from whores and ‘dancers’ who are disease-ridden fleabags that want it to feel good for their john. I’m not pro-abortion but as a compromise I say 12 weeks, when the baby is about 1″ long, if you HAVE to kill the baby. BTW – if you do drugs and alcohol we throw your ass in jail for child abuse. How do you like that? People need to be responsible in this world. We have totally lost that concept. Let’s take our country back folks! These evil psycho libs are stealing our kids’ futures.

    • JenB

      At 20 weeks you can tell the sex of a child on an ultrasound.

  • rickg62

    I may have missed it, but with the occasional court cases challenging abortion has there been one challenging the pro-abortion mantra of a woman’s right to do what she wants with her own body? Medically the baby is not a part of her body as are her organs, nut a separate entity in a symbiotic relationship with the mother. Would such a relationship fall under property rights and if so what are the limits that you can do with property? Just a question to throw out there.

  • Miketrt

    BTW – Laura is tough – she has bigger gonads than most of her male pundit compadres. Smart and tough. That’s sexy 😉

    • neoface

      She is smarter than O’Reilly or O’Reilly is getting senile .

      • Miketrt

        Well not sure if she’s smarter, but O’Reilly is still the crank he’s always been. He goes in and out… sometimes he’s got a sense of humor, and knocks ’em dead; other times he talks over everybody and sticks to some BS he said rather than back down a bit on it. Only exception I recall is the “you liar” Colmes issue. Still, the best show regardless. TV is harder than radio by far. I think with these two is always a pissing match for airtime. Just the way it is I guess. They are both Alphas.

      • MrInterpid

        O’Reilly is becoming a high speed spinning pinhead. He seems to spin everything to the center. I guess he thinks this is the “reasonable” position.

  • OLLPOH ~ America

    Aborted babies have no courage, no say, no view, no smell, no brain, no hands, no feet, no eyes, no life…Natural Law was supersede by a Worldly Court… Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness is now Women’s Health Care.

    • Miketrt

      Good point (although a little weird.)

      • OLLPOH ~ America

        Not trying to be weird. Humans are suppose to be the most intelligent, yet other species are protected from harm or death or what the government calls extinction. It takes a lot of courage to be living, and in the human race and folks attempt to be altruistic and they really are not. From understanding that if it doesn’t kill you then it will make you a stronger human and the senseless deaths that take place are hideous.

        We were born with Natural Laws that the government has overridden. Read the Federalist Paper No. 51.

        • Miketrt

          No, I got it, I just think the “no courage” and some other things detract from the argument. I got you though.

          • OLLPOH ~ America

            It takes courage to live. Aborted babies don’t have a say, so how could they have courage. And we humans need to stop being in a complete state of Complacency that the government knows everything is the be all of the end all answer. It takes courage to speak the truth.

          • Miketrt

            I disagree, it takes no courage to ‘live.’ We just do. It takes courage to live righteously and do the right thing in God’s eyes, for sure. Especially when the current is against you on almost all fronts. Shi*, even the Catholic church (my church) is aping this ‘social justice’ garbage. You are right, it does take courage to speak the truth. Especially with Obama setting up 1984 all around us.

  • David Campbell

    If you are a woman that believes in abortion and murdering an innocent unborn child, you are a fooking loser and you don’t have the right to live. Your mother allowed you to live and you should give your unborn child the same chance of life you got.

    Pro choice = the right to murder unborn children. Pro choice viewers should all go to jail, because they don’t believe in the right to live and they sure don’t value life.

    Pro choice idiots shouldn’t have the right to vote, because they do not value life.

    Now I ask, what gives pro choice people the right at anything in life?

    Answer is, nothing gives them the right at anything. They should be locked up and forgotten about.

    DNC

  • maxwekkbmax

    Why hasn’t anyone asked Chelsea Clinton the very same QUESTION?????

  • Julie Smock

    if people would quit getting pregnant you would not have to choose whether to have a child or not. some of us are forced to live within our means in order to pay for those who refuse to. no one is forced to have a child. quit getting pregnant and that is a choice you will never have to make. sheesh….don’t we all know what causes it by now?

  • Deion07

    This is to the imbecile who removed my comment. To be clear, I was pointing out that we are missing millions of black children in this country because white liberals are disproportionately counseling poor black women to abort their children. I was NOT advocating the abortion of black babies. Sorry my comment was over your head. Some idiot college kid needs to be fired from their summer internship. I want an apology.

    • Miketrt

      These morons won’t apologize. I’ll apologize for them.

  • Edward Nutter

    My cuz is adopted. She is the child of a child rape victim, long before Roe vs Wade. She’s married (for 35 years), has four grown kids and two grand kids (so far). About 15 years ago she and her birth mother found each other and now they share a wonderful relationship. Her kids and grandchildren know and love their third (great) grandma and a new array of aunts, uncles, and cousins.

    So, Senator Wendy, should my cousin have been ripped apart? Which of my 2nd cousins should never have existed? The personal trainer? The paramedic? The deputy sheriff? The psychologist? Hmmm? Should two little boys, sons of one of the above and his stunningly beautiful wife, not be on that playground?

    I suggest you not be too close to my cousin’s birth mom when you suggest erasing 7 members of her family. She might not respond to that well.

  • NewWest 123

    I love Laura and she should take over Oreilly’s show

  • OLLPOH ~ America

    Why is it aborted babies don’t have a say in this matter only the living have a say? What are we going to do about all the Missing Children that didn’t make it to the playground Senator?

    • Miketrt

      Because they are aborted I guess. Why don’t fetuses have equal rights is the Q.

  • red33410

    She meant to explain, “Which kids WHOM you see on the playground shouldn’t be there?”

  • suz73

    This discussion is interesting. I wonder where the moral responsibility is for each of us to prevent an unwanted pregnancy? Then would we really be having this discussion unless it was about incest, rape or danger to the mom? And even then there have been many a courageous women out there that have not aborted their pregnancies from a rape because they feel strongly that the life of a child is worthy to be brought to full term. How difficult that would be, but courageous. I know of someone in my own family that did that very thing. She chose to raise the child, but there is always adoption. Adoption has touched many people’s lives that I know. We are a selfish society. RESPONSIBILITY!! It’s not that difficult to figure out.

    • Paladin

      Responsiblity? Better stop that. The next thing you know you’ll start using words like honor and dignity too.

      • suz73

        Hahaha!

  • John Phelan

    I love how some of you are claiming that rape victims should be forced to have the children of their attackers. its like getting raped for 9 months.

    • Jim Denney

      How would you know, JOHN? That aside, I believe those who insist on no exception for rape are a small minority. I certainly don’t favor forcing a woman to carry a rapists baby.

      • John Phelan

        I know this because its in the posts on here!!

    • Wrathful_Brunette

      And you know this, how?

      Fewer than 2% of aborted pregnancies were caused by rape. Look it up.

      • John Phelan

        I know this because its in the posts below, Look it up.

  • Guest

    The thing that depresses me most about the Blue Jackal Tribe and their insistence on killing the unborn is that an ignoramus like Davis holds a common view. Why is it they insist on control over their bodies after inception but exercise none before the fact?

  • in_awe

    Aren’t Democrats insisting that immigration reform will allow us to avoid the population crisis of too few Americans in the future? Aren’t they implicitly trading black aborted babies for brown immigrant babies? Wonder how the black community feels about that…Jessie, Al?

  • emsinmd

    I wondered why Davis, who was reportedly a teen mother herself, is so proAbortion. Does she wish she’d aborted her child?

    • alumin

      How very comforting to her child/children! Maybe she feels like Obama and doesn’t wish her children to be “cursed” with a baby!

  • emsinmd

    In over 40 years of legal abortion, I have yet to hear or see ANY medical profession reveal under what circumstances the “life of the mother” is in jeopardy and the thing, the ONLY thing, that would save her life is the death of the child.

    • Spinmamma

      Actually there are a few circumstances. For example, there are blood type incompatibilities and in situations where the mother has or develops cancer, the growth hormones produced in pregnancy can accelerate the cancer growth and lead to the mother’s death.

  • Jackie Hodgkins Fernandez

    The lady is an empty vessel . She
    Doesn’t get it like so many Pro
    Choicer’s . It’s a sad day in human
    History when a woman is made to
    Be a hero for condoning the murder of innocent life. Even animals have the instinct to protect and take care of there young.

  • Dutra

    The mothers and the doctors will meet these innocent angels in heaven.

    • Wrathful_Brunette

      Don’t forget the fathers.

    • TheExecutiveProducer

      While it is certainly not my job to assign who goes where, I have a hard time believing that any person who put in the time and energy it takes to become a doctor and then uses their skills to kill unborn babies when they could be saving lives, will have a chance to meet anyone in Heaven.

  • Bernie Sargent

    Virtually every pro abortionist I’ve talked to has also been pro gun control becuase, “if it saves one life it’s a good thing”. Curious when abortion takes thousands every year.

  • Eddie

    How can a moral wrong be a civil right ????

    • Guest

      ask the slave owners in the South that question.

      • GoneFishing

        Um… this is 2013. What era are you living in? Pathetic.

      • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

        Um, they all DIED many, many years ago.

      • thetawake

        Would if there were any. But that matter’s been settled 150 years.

  • Gary Dinkins

    If 20 weeks is too soon, when should it be? 30 weeks? 26 years?

  • Jim Evans

    They go nuts on guns killing hundreds of kids but don’t mind doctors killing millions? Does mass murder make it right?

  • Michael Formoso

    Who gives a hoot if Laura Ingraham asked a zinger of a question to Wendy Davis? The only reason I see Ms. Davis as a hero, is that she stood up for her constituents. I don’t see any Republicans standing for nearly 12 hours straight to bring a voice to the people who wouldn’t be heard otherwise, despite them being the majority of the people. Since this country is supposed to be a Democratic Country, who exactly was she speaking for? The none vocal minority, her own opinion on the matter? Why doesn’t she stand for 15 hours to filibuster something that everyone behind her, doesn’t support?

    • susan5042

      America is a Republic…not a Democracy. You have that twisted.

  • thetawake

    Since conception is where life starts taking any step to end it after that means a life has been taken. I really don’t understand why there is debate. .the law is pretty clear about murder.

  • Jeffrey Rogers

    If the Abortionis used a gun to kill the baby it would a totally different attitude from the lefties

  • naotachanell

    When Margaret Sanger founded Planned Parenthood, she said that black people were so stupid, she could convince them to kiII their own babies.

    She said that blacks were the weeds of society and needed to be controlled.

    She also believed children born with Down Syndrome shouldn’t be allowed to live.

    This was a disgustingly sick woman, and liberals have made her their hero. . . .

    Liberals are mentally ill .

    • thetawake

      If I had a genie in a lamp I’d wish for a framed copy of your comment to suddenly appear hanging in the home of every black family in America

  • Ia Ensterä

    This is completely sophomoric. She is not being heralded as a “hero” for supporting abortion. She is seen as a “hero” for supporting the right of a person to make that choice for themselves. What happens between a patient and a doctor is not the business of ignorant “representatives”.

    • jobewan

      Abortion is not a choice for oneself; rather, it is a choice made on behalf of a defenseless person. In the same way that a killer, or robber is not really ‘making a choice for the person carrying the primary outcome of the action but rather, victimizing same. You are dumb.

    • bicentennialguy

      Abortion is not healthcare. You don’t want to have a child? Don’t choose penetration.

      • Ia Ensterä

        Has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe all penetration is not consensual? That maybe some fetuses die in utero? That maybe some fetuses start forming in the oviducts? That maybe some women are battling uterine cancer when they find out about a pregnancy?

        Abortion is a PART of healthcare, whether you term it so or not. Nobody’s personal (religious or not) beliefs should infringe upon the rights of another. After all, to put it in simple terms: if you don’t want to have an abortion, don’t have one.

        • MikeBratton

          The cluelessness is absolutely amazing. If you don’t get that the debate is about abortion on demand, then you don’t need to participate. Tap-dancing around the issue at hand is, frankly, pathetic.

          And don’t ever, ever talk about the “right” to have an abortion. There isn’t one.

        • GoneFishing

          Your example is a minority. The majority of abortions are the result of unwanted pregnancies and as another tool of birth control.

          • Ia Ensterä

            Please share your (credible) research statistics here. And by credible, I do not mean “research” paid for by a religious institution.

          • GoneFishing

            I’m not going to do your work. If you were able to navigate your way here, there’s a huge World Wide Web out there for you to do it in.

          • Ia Ensterä

            I HAVE done my research, and thus came to the conclusions I’ve reached. My opinion is not based on emotions, but rather on concrete statistics….which are not always found on the web, either.

            So, GoneFishing, as much as I appreciate the repartee with you, I do urge you to do likewise. If one goes into research with an open mind, one might be surprised at the results.

          • GoneFishing

            Researching includes sites that you don’t want to visit. Not just pro-infanticide sites.

          • Ia Ensterä

            You seem to assume I am pro-abortion. If that is so, your assumptions are quite premature and incorrect.

            Please take your fervid angst elsewhere. I prefer to converse with people who do not let fear and dogmatism overrun reason.

          • GoneFishing

            Maybe not, but it is reasonable, according to your comment above, to assume you’re pro-choice. If you don’t want anyone responding to your comments, don’t comment here. It’s that simple.

          • Ia Ensterä

            I am pro-choice, but that does not make me pro-abortion. It makes me a believer that it is not my business what my neighbor and her doctor do.
            …and I welcome reasonable comments.

          • GoneFishing

            Do you believe in the justice system? Trial by jury, of your peers to determine innocence or guilt? Those are duties and responsibilities of being a citizen. It is EVERYONE’S business when we’re talking about the termination of human lives.

            Edit: Especially if my tax $$ are to be used to fund abortions that I’m against and never consented to.

          • GoneFishing

            Hint: Are U.S. government sites like cdc.gov & census.gov credible enough for you?

    • GoneFishing

      Making a choice to snuff a life? To commit infanticide? I suppose “Thou Shalt Not Kill” has for you no relevance. Who’s being ‘sophomoric’ here? If it weren’t a baby, the charges for the murder of a pregnant woman wouldn’t be called “Fetal Homicide” or “Double Homicide”. By the way, the ‘doctor’, who’s real job is saving life, is just as culpable of murder.

    • GoneFishing

      Does a criminal have the right to make the choice, in the commission of a crime(robbery, etc.), to blow your head off?

    • Cymbaline

      Pro-Choice means Pro-Abortion. Always has.

    • MikeBratton

      As murder-for-hire is just between a client and his or her hitman. Gotcha.

  • naotachanell

    Performing surgery on two people who are perfectly healthy, is unethical.

    That’s why 96% of medical doctors, refuse to even learn how to perform an abortion.

  • $4356589

    Question to Laura Ingraham: How many of those children on that playground are unborn? Seems they were all born, making your question irrelevant and purely symbolic.

    • momsaid

      The question included the word ‘shouldn’t’. In other words, ‘which of those children should have been aborted in the first place?’. Morons, er, pro-aborts, see more children as burdens on Society instead of Gifts from God. Think about the perspective one must maintain to see an innocent Human Being as a problem to be solved (killed off).

      • $4356589

        Yeah, ask the folks during the GOP debate last election cycle who advocated that society should let people without insurance and catastrophic injuries just die.

  • Mickey O’Brien

    The Left will decry the State of TX for 500 executions in 30 years of hardened criminals that took at least that many lives themselves. Then they applaud that there are 80,000 abortions per year in the State of TX, with 9-10,000 in the 2nd or 3rd trimester. 21% on blacks, although they only comprise 13% of the population in TX. Misplaced indignation? Or is it alphabetic bias? (If you have a D after your name, you can do no wrong, but if you have an R after your name, nothing you do is right.)

  • Jennifer Lee Hawthorne

    Question to @LauraIngraham: Which kids that you see on the playground will you adopt and be responsible for because their parents abuse, neglect, or hate them or can’t afford to care for them? How many?

    • nc

      Um, she’s already adopted three. Next question?

      • m0t0rhead

        3 foreigners. She should recuse herself from the AMERICAN abortion debate. It is quite obvious that she doesn’t care about American children since she won’t adopt any.

    • MikeBratton

      Ah. So it’s better to murder children caught up in those circumstances? What part of “abuse, neglect, or hate” do you not see in abortions?

    • carla5731

      Most women choose to abort rather than put their children up for adoption. I wonder what the abortion debate would look like if the percentage live births and adoptions was higher.

    • momsaid

      Do you ever think before posting a comment? Laura Ingraham has adopted three children: one girl from Guatamala and two Russian boys. Your argument is invalid.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        Three? Well I’ll go ahead and assume that’s all children in need of a home everywhere.

        • Noah

          umm, perhaps if there were more adoption agencies maybe there would be more children adopted. Maybe if adoption was stressed more as an alternative to abortion, there would be more people giving there children up for adoption rather than killing them in-utero.

  • salvagesalvage

    Yes, that really destroyed her.

    Wingnuts always hanging mission accomplished banners.

    • MikeBratton

      Then you answer the question, since you think it’s such a softball.

      • salvagesalvage

        It’s not a “softball” it’s just a very silly thing to say that is completely irrelevant to the issue.

        So naturally wingnuts are enthralled.

        • MikeBratton

          What a tremendous answer.

          Oh, sorry. No. You avoided answering it. Either try again, or give it a rest. And calling people with whom you disagree schoolyard names isn’t a substantive response, so try to resist the urge to wander back down that path. Thanks in advance.

          • salvagesalvage

            Well stupid questions deserve that sort of answer.

            See what’s really stupid is the whole “school kids” angle, why not adults? Aborted fetuses don’t become there either.

            It’s simple, a woman’s body is her own, you have no say in what she does with it.

            It’s this thing called liberty, I know wingnuts don’t get that.

          • GoneFishing

            It’s this thing called liberty that allows everyone to have a say. You better believe it’s my business. The moment some slug decides to use our tax $$ for disingenuously named “women’s health issues” it is instantly EVERYONE’S business.

          • salvagesalvage

            I love how suddenly people can choose how their tax dollars are spent.

            So if someone doesn’t like war can they demand that their tax dollars don’t go to the Pentagon?

          • GoneFishing

            I love how you leave out the fact that people, of any political persuasion, daily voice their opinions, for or against, any topic you can think of. And it’s just too bad if you can’t(won’t) understand that sometimes moral dissension is absolutely necessary.

          • MikeBratton

            I understand that it’s easier for people like you to call others names in lieu of substantive discourse, but you really need to stop kidding yourself. The whole “a woman’s body” nonsense really falls apart when you have a basic comprehension of biology, so you might want to try another inert retort in the future.

          • salvagesalvage

            Ha! Ha! Yes! A woman’s body is not the woman’s body, that is what biology says!

          • MikeBratton

            If the particulars of human reproduction elude you, that’s unfortunate.

          • salvagesalvage

            Well I say the fetus is inside the woman’s body, is literally made up and attached of the same and as such whatever happens to it is her choice alone.

            That’s wrong?

          • MikeBratton

            Yes. Glad to see you’re making actual progress.

          • salvagesalvage

            What’s wrong about it?

          • MikeBratton

            Half the time, the child is a different gender from his mother. All the time, the child has different genetics, a different brainwave pattern, a different heartbeat, and different bodily functions. If this has eluded you in the past, that’s unfortunate.

          • salvagesalvage

            Yes, that is a child, we are not talking about children we are talking about a fetus, that is what gets killed in an abortion.

            A fetus may share those qualities but that does not change the fact that they are inside the women, attached to her and drawing sustenance from her just like every other part of the woman’s body.

            Do you understand that reality?

  • Bill Green

    Any argument supporting “freedom of choice” pales before the reality of ripping apart an innocent human being in the sanctity of his/her mother’s womb. Shame on the mindless liberals who claim to support women’s rights and overlook the fact that half of the 55 million American babies killed for the sake of convenience were women. Those who haven’t known the joy of parenthood don’t know what they are missing.

  • N Kaye

    You seem to forget all of the other health services that these clinics offer.
    You can believe in your book of fables, but it doesn’t change the healthcare that the women of Texas need.

    • OLLPOH ~ America

      and if you were aborted and we were aborted we wouldn’t be having this conversation, now would we. The aborted babies we didn’t get to know, and see and hold and shape and share precious moments with, to give them Life, Liberty Pursuit of Happiness, to be able to hear their coo for the first time, to count their precious little toes and fingers, to hold them just right when they cry, to bundle them up, and feed them the precious gifts of love and food…people are precious.

      • N Kaye

        You folks sure care about the unborn… But you couldn’t be bothered with all of the men and women who you kill sending to war.

    • MikeBratton

      Oh, really? I’m sure you’ve also forgotten that Mussolini made great advances in railroad efficiency. Or that Hitler gave us Volkswagen. What healthcare is exclusive to Texas abortion clinics? What do women get there that they just can’t get anywhere else in the state–other than, of course, the opportunity to have their children killed?

    • MissJames

      Oh yes,all the other health services……..Between all the sex education and birth control available ,there really shouldn’t be a need for abortion,should there? Didn’t the libs claim it should be rare?

      • LogicalObserver

        Not in Texas. The legislature is overly concerned with life inside the womb, but outside? Forget it. Schools, healthcare, housing, early childhood education–ha. The Legislature denied funding this regular session for daycare centers in high schools for children of students (babies of high-school girls), because they didn’t want to “reward bad behavior” (getting pregnant?). But…they wouldn’t have wanted those girls to have abortions…and they didn’t teach them anything about birth control. It’s terribly confusing!

      • Bathing Suit Area

        Given that helmets are cheaply available to everyone, I see no reason why anyone should ever get a head injury. Therefore there is nothing wrong with banning hospitals from treating them.

        • Jason Call

          Absolutely. I recommend that hospitals are made free to suck the brains out of any injured head. Civil rights issue, really.

    • rickg62

      Like what? You’re good at generalities, but let’s get specific about these other benefits that off-set the 650,000 abortions in the past two years alone or 1 every 94 seconds and counting.

  • N Kaye

    “All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.”
    ― Thomas Paine

    • Paladin

      “Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”
      – George Washington

  • m0t0rhead

    I know Laura sees American born kids that shouldn’t be there. That is why she adopted 2 Russian and one Guatemalan kid, leaving the American born ones to be aborted.

    • Paladin

      How could she possibly adopt an aborted baby?

      • m0t0rhead

        Why would American women want to give up their unwanted kids for adoption knowing that no one would adopt them-they are busy adopting foreign kids, better to abort than live your life knowing your kid is living in foster care-specially since Laura and the teapublicans are proposing budget cuts for programs like foster care.

    • OLLPOH ~ America

      people are precious.

    • carla5731

      Most women choose to abort. Therefore there are more parents seeking children than there are newborns waiting to be adopted.

    • MissJames

      She sees life as valuable ,period. I agree with her ,but because American born is an issue for you,after having 3 kids my husband and I became foster parents ( 17 years) and adopted 4 kids,3 who were minority .Two of them have very special needs . Our youngest will always be dependent . We didn’t adopt as a statement against abortion,but we do walk the walk. LET THEM LIVE !

    • MikeBratton

      Too easy. Had she adopted domestically, people with your worldview would attack her for only focusing on American children and ignoring the rest of the world. The question, whoever you are, is how it is that you and yours enjoy sniping at people like Ms. Ingraham, people who put our money where our mouths are, from the comfort of the tall grass of anonymity.

      • m0t0rhead

        Nice try, 3 kids and not one American. Why would a woman want to give up her kids for adoption when she sees people like Laura adopting foreign kids leaving American ones to wallow in foster care. A foster care system the t-ba66ers are trying to gut by the way.
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/25/AR2005102501485.html
        “People like Ms. Ingraham, people who put our money where our mouths are,” -What is up with that? Why do you try to live your life vicariously through others? You are not Laura Ingraham! LOL
        Anyway I just think Laura has a thing for foreigners remember when she was engaged to “out sourced Mr. Bean” a.k.a. Dinesh D’souza.

        • MikeBratton

          I would wager, were I a betting man, that all her children are American–now. Or does immigration sympathy only work when the people involved are expected to vote Democrat?

          “What is up with that?” What’s “up” with that is that there are a lot of people in this world who back up our beliefs with actions, and Ms. Ingraham isn’t the only one. There are more than a few people who’ve been involved with domestic adoptions, including my family. Perhaps you could stop pretending to care about children who need homes and families and actually do something constructive with regard to the issue.

          Of course, that’s asking far too much of people who hold your worldview, but there’s always hope.

          • m0t0rhead

            Of course they are American now. Point is they weren’t. If she is going to interject herself into the AMERICAN abortion debate she needs to adopt some American kids. Abortion is illegal in Guatemala except in case where the mother’s life is in danger. Article 3 of Chapter I in Title II of the Constitution of Guatemala grants the right to life from the point of conception.
            This article states that the government
            “guarantee and protects human
            life since its conception, as same as the integrity and security of the
            person.” So the kid was never in danger of being aborted meanwhile there are millions of inner city moms who contemplate abortion instead of trying to get their welfare taken away maybe she could have volunteered to adopt the child once it was born.
            There again this is the woman who cheer leaded for the Iraq war where 4000 American sons and daughters, and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children were killed for no reason. Is this being constructive? Maybe you and Laura should adopt some Iraqi orphans since you are all about the children.

          • MikeBratton

            You’d rather sling hate at people than work to make the world around you even one bit better. That’s just sad. Why do you choose to live your life that way?

          • m0t0rhead

            You mean like Scott DesJarlais?

          • MikeBratton

            No, like you. Pointing a finger at someone else never helps your situation. Why do you live your life the way you’ve chosen to?

          • m0t0rhead

            Really? this coming from a guy spending time on a website with headlines like Rick Perry ‘slut-shames’ Sen. Wendy Davis by noting her accomplishments

            Spare me the preaching son.

          • MikeBratton

            I see. So it’s all right that you’re here, but not for me to be here? Interesting. And had you actually read the article, you would have known that the only use of that term was by liberals mischaracterizing Gov. Perry’s remarks. Which is why the term is in quotes.

            So, back to you. At what point did you determine that the way you’re living made sense to you?

          • m0t0rhead

            We are on the same website sweet heart you are not that special. The way I am living is fine my kids are happy, and healthy, they go to a good school. They do not judge other people because some old book of desert fairy tales tells them certain lifestyles are wrong.

          • MikeBratton

            And you’re teaching them your bigotry. Interesting. So, again, when did you think that this unfortunate lifestyle of yours was a good thing, even so good that you should pass it on to your children?

      • m0t0rhead

        “Had she adopted domestically, people with your worldview would attack
        her for only focusing on American children and ignoring the rest of the
        world.” -So she was so worried about what people would say that she let the pregnant American mom abort her unwanted baby instead of offering to adopt it? Yes, you guys are all about the children.

    • mja0110

      leaving BORN children to be aborted??? how can anyone be so stupid as to say that? if they are born, you are too late, m0t0rmouth

      • m0t0rhead

        Why would American women want 2 give up their unwanted kids 4
        adoption knowing that no one would adopt them-they are busy adopting
        foreign kids, better to abort than live your life knowing your kid is
        living in foster care-specially since Laura and the teapublicans are
        proposing budget cuts for programs like foster care.

        • johnrhett

          What do think the pill is for? Condoms? The patch? The FemCap? Spermicide? There are a whole host of inexpensive choices that prevent pregnancy in the first place! Abortion wasn’t supposed to be used as the primary means of birth control, and yet it is. How else do you get 55 MILLION abortions since Roe vs Wade? How else do you get some sections of New York with a 70% abortion rate?

          • Bathing Suit Area

            I take it you think there is nothing wrong with banning hospitals from treating head injuries ever since helmets have been invented, too?

    • Jason Call

      Yes, how diabolical. I finally see the monster that she is.

  • Julia

    That bill was not just about “late term abortions” it was about abortion rights in general. She stood up for women’s rights. It’s no one’s business what we do with our own bodies. If a woman wants to terminate an unwanted pregnancy its no one’s business but, their own!

    • carla5731

      If it’s no one’s business what we do with our own bodies then state legislatures wouldn’t be able to pass seat belt and helmet laws, right?

      • Julia

        That’s right! If people want to take the chance and get a head injury or go flying through a windshield, that’s their business. I wear mine because it’s the law but, I would choose to anyways.

    • Jenny Sue

      It is our business what you do with other people’s bodies though. The child is not you, it is a separate being deserving of protection.

      • Julia

        As a matter of fact it is a part of me. It’s MY egg that’s INSIDE and ATTACHED to MY body and no one else’s. If I choose to have my female parts removed is no one’s business but my own.

  • secrippen

    No one who is Pro Choice is Pro Abortion. But those of you who want to strip women of their rights love to portray us as irresponsible, dumbass trailer trash who sit around all day drinking wine coolers waiting for our equally stupid man to get home from the bar and make another baby to abort.

    Roe v Wade is the law of the land. And until and if it is overturned, WOMEN HAVE A RIGHT TO CHOOSE, no matter how many criminal acts Governor Perry and his ilk attempt to commit and no matter how many clever phrases Ms. Ingraham can spew.
    And by the way, Ms. Ingraham, most unwanted children don’t spend much time at the playground.
    Twit…

    • carla5731

      I think those women who showed up on Capitol Hill last August with the “Free Abortion on Demand” signs are actually pro-abortion. I also believe that the stars behind the A is for… non-profit are very much pro-abortion.

      http://www.aisfor.org/
      http://youtu.be/kJEhrkTwDqk

  • Cecelia Henderson

    With cheap birth control and the morning after pill, there is no excuse for an unwanted pregnancy, except stupidity!! When did women get so stupid?

  • Live2BeFree

    Ok, you people are freeking hypocrites. You bitch and moan because you dont want your tax dollars used for welfare then you bitch when a woman abort a welfare baby. Make up your damn minds. Oh wait….One last thing…Show me in the Constitution where it grants government the right to tell a woman what to do with her body. Dont give me the murder of another human because a fetus isnt self sufficient. Also…..your RELIGION tells you when life begins. How about you HYPOCRITES stop forcing your RELIGION down one everyone elses throats. Not everyone is the same religion. You all are just as bad as the democrats.

    • johnrhett

      What do think the pill is for? Condoms? The patch? The FemCap? Spermicide? There are a whole host of inexpensive choices that prevent pregnancy in the first place! Abortion wasn’t supposed to be used as the primary means of birth control, and yet it is. How else do you get 55 MILLION abortions since Roe vs Wade? How else do you get some sections of New York with a 70% abortion rate?

    • Jenny Sue

      Perhaps these men and women should be responsible for the children they created by having sex. No sex, no children, it is that easy.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        So lifelong celibacy except for when you’re trying to have a child.

        Have you ever actually met any human beings?

        • GoneFishing

          Trolling. Case in point.

          • SaltineCracker

            How is making a valid point trolling? Oh because it doesnt match your ideals and stupid values that you wish everyone on the planet shared.

          • GoneFishing

            Stupid “comments” abound. Your Saltines are cracked if you think my “stupid values”, of which you know nothing, is the way to randomly pick and attack just anyone for the sake of commenting and shows that you’re not interested in a discussion.

  • jetch

    will someone please tell me how the left is compromising on this? at all?? abortion is legal and has been for decades. can they not compromise at all and agree that there must be some sort of cut off when abortions are not allowed? you’re talking about almost 5 months and they still want the right to abort if they feel like it???
    their uncompromising, obsessive leftist compulsions truly make them the “nut jobs” that *used* to define the far right.

    • johnrhett

      It’s worse than that; they want the right to abort one second before the baby comes out of the birth canal at nine months, and many want the right to murder the baby even after it’s born. Post-birth murder by doctors has been happening for awhile now. The accounts are gruesome.

  • [email protected]

    Killing the child because of a rape is like blaming a spark plug because you got hit by a drunk driver. The spark plug may have been in the vehicle but the guy driving the car was the ahole that hit you.

  • Danny Wheeler

    You said it, Laura!

  • el duderino

    Abortion has nothing to do with choice and everything to do with population control. They have impressionable women convinced that killing their future is a good thing.

  • johnrhett

    Whatever happend to the pill? Condoms? The patch? The FemCap?
    Spermicide? There are a whole host of inexpensive choices that prevent
    pregnancy in the first place! Abortion wasn’t supposed to be used as the
    primary means of birth control, and yet it is. How else do you get 55
    MILLION abortions since Roe vs Wade? How else do you get some sections
    of New York with a 70% abortion rate?

  • John Bibb

    ***
    I hope that Governor Rick Perry and the Texas Legislature learned something from last night’s pro abortion riot in the meeting hall. It’s hardball time!

    ***
    Make sure that things are ready for a rerun during the special session vote. Park some barred prisoner transport buses outside. Stock up on pepper spray, Nylon tie wraps and orange jumpsuits. Make it clear to any spectators / legislature members that any outbursts will result in a quick pepper spray to the eyes, tie wrap handcuffing, dragging outta there, and stuffing in the buses. With a nice catered trip to Arizona’s Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s tent city until the disorderly hearings and $10000 fines make it onto the court schedule in a month or two. Sometimes outsourcing cures jail overcrowding.

    ***
    The Madison, Wisconsin police failed to maintain order during the Governor Walker financial rework riots. Texas needs to charge these clowns a stiff price for subverting our legislature. Shouldn’t be too hard–remember the old Texas saying–“One riot–one Ranger!” Or as many as it takes to restore order and enable voting.
    ***
    And if the filibuster lady legislator does her stuff again–set the air conditioning to 33 degrees and see how long it takes her to head for the bathroom. Make sure the podium has lots of nice iced tea or cold water available for her use. Let’s see how long she can hold out!

    ***
    Rocketman
    ***

  • Mary

    did we learn nothing from Gosnell and baby feet in a freezer?

  • Joanne

    it’s shocking that, in this day and age, this is even something that needs to be explained or discussed. Here’s the run down for people who still need it; 1. No one wants a victim of rape, incest or a pregnancy that is harmful to the mother pregnancy to be denied an abortion. Read that again. 2. The birth control pill is available…no one is denied. 3. Condoms and numerous other contraceptives are available at your local CVS and Walgeens. 4. Read two and three again. 5. The day after pill is now available. Take it right away. 6. If you still need an abortion and you aren’t a victim of number 1, then murder without reason is just that murder. Everyone says you shouldn’t smoke….people do, because they can’t see the damage it’s doing. Would anyone who advocates abortion, without number one, feel bad if they had to watch the video of it? Why? Because you don’t see it, doesn’t mean it isn’t wrong. Questions? And for all those unwanted pregnancies, that didn’t do 2,3,4 and 5….there are TONS and TONS of people who would give anything to adopt a baby and pay for your medical fees. I know many women. So what’s the excuse for ripping a baby to shreds, inside your own body?

    • MrsLadyLee

      speak for yourself

  • eeddggy

    Laura, I absolutely love you. I hope you take the O’reilly show over permanently.

  • eeddggy

    The Democrats would allow women to murder babies if they weren’t born “cute enough”.

    Democrat = Evil.

  • Mary Brown Vaughan

    Just because “you can”, doesn’t mean “you should”. It is my new motto which you can apply to just about anything in life. Applauding abortion at ANY level is sheer irresponsibility and IMO late term abortions are nothing short of murder. For those of you who are in favor, I would be interested in hearing your comments after watching the following videos. http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2013/05/27/a-former-abortionist-with-1200-killings-describes-a-late-term-abortion/
    http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=40291
    If you still contend there is nothing wrong with taking a child’s life in this capacity but will raise your fists in response to the Sandy Hook shootings, then you are a complete hypocrite.

  • copperpeony

    How many “babies” are protected? Seals, turtles, some bugs, fish etc. Human babies? The PP (murderous founder Margaret Sanger’s group) is just another arm of the old Nazi’s and want population control according to their standards. All should be jailed for homicide and torture.

  • Linda

    When are these pathetic women going to start taking responsibility for their own actions…you chose to have sex, you chose to not use birth control, and for the 1% that get pregnant by rape…have you heard of adoption?

  • gold7406

    Save the whales, save the seals, save the frogs, save the trees, save the environment, save the climate, save the criminal………emblematic of why liberals contort themselves into a ball.

  • AZWarrior

    The problem with liberals (Among their MANY problems) is if you WANT it, it’s a child. If you DON’T want it, it’s just a clump of tissue.

  • AZWarrior

    Mandatory tubal ligation and vasectomies for all registered Democrats. Problem solved.

  • russellbennett

    Ask the grand parents which one should not be there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lillian-Geiger-Smith/1837487884 Lillian Geiger Smith

    Wish we could force these people who support late term abortions to actually attend one. They make them clean up afterwards and take out the trash.

  • Benet Edward Garcia

    From a Republican’s point of view and in Answer to Ingram’s Question: “Why, the Mexican ones of course!” (There goes the BOOM !!!)

    • Jenny Sue

      And yet, a republican did not say that. You did. I suppose that makes you the hater racist .

  • Glenn Jericho

    I’ve always said if you want more people to be against abortions, abort puppies and kittens on live television.

  • LogicalObserver

    There’s no limit to the hypocrisy here.

    The legislature is overly concerned with life inside the womb, but outside? Forget it. Schools, healthcare, housing, early childhood education–ha. The Legislature denied funding this regular session for daycare centers in high schools for children of students (babies of high-school girls), because they didn’t want to “reward bad behavior” (getting pregnant?). But…they wouldn’t have wanted those girls to have abortions…and they didn’t teach them anything about birth control. It’s terribly confusing!

    • James Cupp

      They still would have had 20 weeks to abort, instead of 24.

      • LogicalObserver

        That’s not the point. This bill was and is under the guise of making it “safe” for women. Hogwash. It’s real intent (and it’s not very well hidden, duh) is making it nearly impossible to get an abortion anywhere in the state, especially for those in rural areas.
        Nobody wants or “promotes” abortions. But the hypocrisy of these “pro birth” politicians is laughable.

        • carla5731

          A is for… the non-profit started by Daily Show creator Lizz Winstead actively promotes abortions.

          • LogicalObserver

            I have no idea if that’s true. Even so, that doesn’t make me want to go get pregnant and intentionally have one, like a cigarette billboard or something.
            My overall beef with the TX bill is that it was sneaked into a special session on the whims of the “governor” (hard to call him that bc he doesn’t govern). Then when the PEOPLE tried to defend their current rights under the LAW, he and his flunkies tried to shut them down.
            That is NOT democracy. That is BIG INTRUSIVE government that the Tea Party and Repubs continually complain about.
            And let’s call spades, spades here. If MEN got pregnant, there’d be abortion clinics on every corner.

          • carla5731

            One of the failings of abortion supporters is that they have made the debate all about women. In an age when we have DNA technology that could hold men responsible for their actions, their presence has been erased from the reproductive process. So rather than starting from the idea that a couple has sex and both the male and female should be held accountable, the argument is that the woman makes the decision and the public should be responsible for the cost. Abortion supporters have, by their demands that the rest of us “pay for birth control now or pay for the kid later,” shifted abortion further into the public sphere rather than making it a private matter.

          • LogicalObserver

            There is no funding of abortion clinics. Planned Parenthood provides other care.
            It IS a private matter. But when those who oppose it entirely also oppose better education (not everyone can afford the best or is lucky enough to have caring parents) etc. it creates this destructive cycle, period.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Men have been “erased from the reproductive process”?

            No, our part is still easily understood. And it’s not in ordering anyone else to gestate a foetus or give birth against their will.

    • carla5731

      ” they didn’t teach them anything about birth control”

      Are you talking about their parents or do you believe that the public bears the greatest responsibility when a teenager gets pregnant?

      We live in a society that’s saturated with media and a lot of the content is sexual in nature including frank discussions about birth control. In this type of environment, why do you think the legislature is the most culpable?

      • LogicalObserver

        Abstinence only education and non-science here in Texas.
        The main point still holds water: protect while a fetus, f while a functioning human.

        • carla5731

          So the only information that students in Texas have access to comes from the public schools? That sounds unlikely.

          I know Texas has a WIC program, and clearly they do have public schools, so the taxpayers are pitching in to help raise the children even if you think they’re not doing enough.

          But again, where are the parents of these pregnant teens and why aren’t you mad at them?

    • Jason Call

      Daycare costs money. Taxpayer responsibility? Get real. Ho. Lee. Crap. Ending a life in the womb the same as the question of who babysits the brat while Mom’s at school? Yep, big all-providing government is all you see, and you can’t possibly relate to somebody like me who will tell you every time: Funding daycare or housing, for that matter is not governments business. You want them to buy everything for you, and you think you have the first clue about a “right to choose” anything. I provide for myself and I decide my fate, and you will never understand that.
      I’ve had hard times. I’ve asked for help. But NEVER from the taxpayer. I have looked actual human beings in the eye and said,”will you help me?” And I owe debts of gratitude that I can never fully repay.
      YOU tell the taxpayer:”You owe this to me.” Daycare, college education, whatever. YOU make me sick.

      • LogicalObserver

        Umm…I’m a well-off married mother of two by CHOICE. I operate under the well-informed philosophy of PLANNED parenthood. MY family. MY business. NOT the government’s, so we have THAT in common. p.s. the number of well-off Republicans who have abortions would astound you. ALL from self-righteous southern “Christian” families. And you can be damn skippy sure that d heads like Paul Ryan would ship their daughters off to Europe if impregnated.
        I can appreciate your concern for your tax dollars funding something you do not support. I feel the same about certain “get-one-fer-my-daddy” wars.

        • Jason Call

          I can’t possibly know, nor can you, what the likes of Paul Ryan would do if confronted with your hypothetical scenario. He nicknamed his daughter “Bean”, owing that she resembled one in her first ultrasound image, for whatever that’s worth.

          Of course some well-off Republicans have abortions–it’s hard to say whether the hard statistics on such would astound me, and I doubt that you and I would agree in all cases as to who is “self-righteous”, but a cursory survey could at least settle who is a professed Christian. So what?

          Incidentally, I’m sure we would find some common ground in a discussion of the Iraq Project, as I like to call it, though I do agree with its legal pretext and Bush’s strategic objectives as far as I believe myself to have understood them.

          As for the matter at hand–so what? They’re hypocrites, the pro-lifers. That’s what you said up front, and that is apparently the main thrust of your commentary. The well-to-do among them would prevent the poor from attaining things that they themselves can afford to buy. Worse, they obfuscate this exclusionary policy-making with so much moral blathering, and this is just too much to take. Look, this is me trying to understand where you’re coming from, and I think I’m getting it.
          I’m not saying I agree, but I get it. Politicians are arrogant, as a rule–I notice the arrogance and duplicity mostly from those on the left–and they drive me up the wall.

          I’m out of time–I’m heading to work.
          I hope that I’ll succeed in eliciting further response from you, but in any event, I’ll submit another paragraph or two here soon.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        So it’s not ok to expect people to shell out a few dollars to keep kids alive, but it’s just fine to expect someone to let their insides be taken over by them and allow their genitals to be used as an involuntary waterslide.

  • cantonst

    If according to Davis, it’s never too late…Strongly suggest that Davis abort herself…actually, we should pray for this pathetic woman…

    • LogicalObserver

      Um. She never said that. Of course, other rednecks think that it IS okay to kill a grown woman: http://www.salon.com/2013/06/06/texas_man_acquitted_in_craiglist_escort_murder/

      • carla5731

        And Ted Kennedy, the Lion of the Senate, was able to glide past the woman’s death that he caused.

      • Jason Call

        Stu, that was funny when you hijacked Glenn’s Twitter account.

      • Nicky Bocker

        So far democrats killed approximately 25 million females any left wing twisted lie you come up with pales in comparison.

        • LogicalObserver

          the above isn’t a twisted lie, it’s the TRUTH.
          p.s. Rich Republicans have abortions like you wouldn’t believe.
          Do as I say, not as I do. Ridiculous.

      • cantonst

        I want to reply that if she wants to do herself, I won’t stand in her way…but I probably would since I’m not from or in that garbage can you call home. Now when you go home you’re going to have to get used to the stench again. Vote Weiner!!!

    • Jason Call

      That’s exactly it. What is the difference, philosophically, between Davis and Gosnell? Why in the world is 20 weeks not long enough for one to make up one’s mind and have her baby scraped out of her and thrown away? Does everyone agree that 36 weeks is too long? I think so.
      Waste of time.

  • sgb1

    Actually, while I support abortion rights I think that 20 weeks is late enough. I don’t like the other garbage in the bill that would close down abortion clinics.

    • Jason Call

      Petesakes, why don’t liberals establish charities to fund the abortion procedure upon an indigent who can’t afford to exercise her right to choose? Why must the public pay for abortion clinics? Come on. You can donate your money to your favorite abortuary and I’ll donate mine to Ronald McDonald house. Stop asking me to fund abortion clinics. They are not fire stations and they are not schools. Put your money where your mouth is and fund them yourself.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        They do have assume charities for this. Why didn’t conservatives just establish charities to pay for the invasions they want of other countries, instead of expecting taxpayers to foot the bill?

  • RichardSaperstein

    It amazes me how many people are so focused on other peoples lives, who they sleep with, who they marry, what they do with their body, who they love, yet they can’t control their own lives.

    Fix your problems first and when your life is perfect then and only then do you have the right to tell others how to live.

    • LogicalObserver

      Amen to that.

    • Nicky Bocker

      You are wrong on all points. And it’s funny how Democrats the ones who want to control everything we do from cradle to grave totally miss the boat when it comes to doing the right thing, “Stand up for those unborn who cannot protect themselves”

      • RichardSaperstein

        I’m not a democrat :)

    • Jay

      It amazes me how many people are focused on other people’s lives, who owns guns and whether or not they can, forcing universal health care on those that don’t want it, making them pay more and more taxes to fit what they feel is a “fair share”, yet they can’t control their own lives.

      Fix your problems first, and when your life is perfect, then you still can’t tell anybody else how to live their lives or what opinions they are allowed to have.

      But if you must know, I make over $180,000 a year, have a daughter, a son to be born in Sept, a home, a wife, a good family, safety and security.. my life is perfect, so now that we have that settled, for fun, we’ll play by your rules, instead of mine. I’ll tell you how to live for the rest of the day. Shut your ignorant, hypocritical mouth, step away from the computer, and re-evaluate your positions.

      • RichardSaperstein

        I can already tell you have issues just by you posting what you did.

        #1.
        I make a whole lot more than you do. We can play big sword little sword
        anytime you want to.

        #2. I own several businesses.

        #3. I have 3
        children (congrats on your soon to be baby).

        #4. I have a wife I’ve
        been together with for 11 years.

        Is my life perfect? Nope
        because there are always other issues like my children and making sure
        they have the best life possible. My focus is on my family directly
        and not what others are doing. Focus on your family, focus on spending
        time with them, because it’s more important then anything else.

      • RichardSaperstein

        I can already tell you have issues just by you posting what you did.

        #1. I make a whole lot more than you do. We can play big sword little sword anytime you want to.

        #2. I own several businesses.

        #3. I have 3 children (congrats on your soon to be baby).

        #4. I have a wife I’ve been together with for 11 years.

        Is my life perfect? Nope because there are always other issues like my children and making sure they have the best life possible. My focus is on my family directly and not what others are doing. Focus on your family, focus on spending time with them, because it’s more important then anything else.

        • Jay

          I do focus on my family, but don’t tell me I can’t save some free time to discuss a subject, and don’t put a ridiculous stipulation on a “perfect life” in order to have an opinion and share that opinion with others and tell them how you feel about it. That was my point. You don’t have to be perfect to have an opinion and express it. You also don’t have to listen to those opinions if you don’t choose. It’s not a contest, it was a point being made. Glad you think I have issues though, just because I’m not at the same exact level as you.

      • BOB

        “I make over 180,000 a year.” Sounds like someone is boasting in order to compensate for a lack of size somewhere else…

        • Jay

          I know it’s the “in” thing to do back in the US right now to “come out of the closet” and I’m flattered you’re thinking about my cock. Unfortunately for you, I’m not interested in men, and fortunately for me, my manhood is plenty big, just like my income.

          Just to be clear, I was making a point about the above person saying you have to have a perfect life to say anything. If you can’t grasp that, I pity you. If you are jealous that I have plenty of size to my manhood and plenty of cash in my pocket, well, go do something about it. I’m sorry that you are too pathetic to be equally successful.

    • Rena

      The reason I speak out against abortions is there is a major lack of information given to these women who get them. One, they hardly have any psychological after care as the guilt does eventually ride on their hearts. I know because Ive seen it happen to several women in my family as well as friends. Another reason is that I also speak for the child that has no voice in this matter. This child didn’t ask to be made, and its parents are being not only irresponsible in their actions of having sex without protection but are also being selfish.

      They don’t know what this child goes through, though many will say that the baby doesn’t feel the pain, they are so wrong! Where one doctor will do all he can to save the life of a fetus of 23 weeks another will chop up and throw in the trash. How can we say that this child does not suffer when we are still learning so much about our bodies even still today….

      My thoughts are….

      If you know you can’t afford a child, don’t get your self in that situation where you have to make that choice.

      If you know you don’t want to “ruin’ your body, don’t have unprotected sex.

      If you know that your “man” is a low life, a bum, doesn’t work, is a cheater and you can’t trust him to be there when you need him most, don’t open your legs up to him!

      Be better to yourself in the first place and you wont have to make this sad choice.

  • ruralcitizen

    We are talking about women who are 5 months pregnant. If you don’t know after missing 2 cycles that you don’t want to have a baby you are a stupid moron. Late term abortions are evil and most are carried out by the request of the impregnator so as not to have to pay child support or by the “would be mother” just because she broke up with her baby daddy. Wrong for a mother of two to be in favor of late term abortions. The only exceptions for late term abortions, life of the mother , severe abnormalities (vegetative state) of the unborn.

    • RichardSaperstein

      So tell me how this has any barring on your life? How does this affect your day to day activities?

      • Nicky Bocker

        Innocent lives being taken, someone needs to advocate for the unborn. U R evil.

    • LogicalObserver

      At least you make some sort of sense compared to other “birthers”!
      Unfortunately, the majority of the R political flunkies are all or nothing.
      Romney used to be sensible on this at least. (not a fan of Bain vulture capitalism). But you can be sure that if any of his immediate family had a “situation,” they’d be shipped off to Europe toute suite!

  • Citizen Loring

    Republicans need to get over 1950s.

    • Nicky Bocker

      Democrats have to take responsibility for their actions

    • Dan Thorpe

      I have a hard time taking some liberal women seriously because all they think about is their vagina. Give me one logical, sane argument why you have to have am abortion past 20 weeks (health of mother already considered).

      • http://twitter.com/Throckmorton09 Biff Wellington

        bravo! well said…

      • LogicalObserver

        fetus has no brain, etc. which is found out after 20 weeks.
        and you know damn well that if men were the ones getting pregnant, you’d find clinics at Starbucks drive throughs.

      • Citizen Loring

        I am HARDLY a liberal. I’m a realist, and I am informed enough to know that the last thing any American woman wants is some old man trying to dictate what they can and cant do.

        • Rena

          I’m a realist as well, and whats real is a human being being sliced up because most of these women are inconvenienced. Whats real is that if you are not ready to be a parent either keep your legs closed or use other forms of birth control. Its called being a responsible adult.

      • BOB

        Awwweeee someone’s obviously never been laid. Go ahead and keep insulting women and maybe you will by the age of 80.

      • BOB

        You have never actually talked to a woman in person have you?

      • Brian

        “(health of mother already considered).”

        Except, no it isn’t. If the health of the mother was considered, they wouldn’t be shutting down women’s health centers and claiming that health exemptions aren’t necessary.

  • Keith

    And such are the tangled webs we weave when we leave God out of the equation. Nothing on His green earth happens outside of His will. Women, in the realm of God’s will, perform vital functions for the health and welfare of her family and in two very special instances provide graphic illustrations of Christ Himself. However, it takes those who know the Word to comprehend what those are. If we all subordinate ourselves to God and remove I and me from the equation, it becomes a truly amazing and beautiful thing to behold. Sadly, our society today is so introverted it cannot comprehend such exquisite things.

  • Nicky Bocker

    What about the 25 million or so females that never made it out of the womb alive, where are their rights?

  • Gerard Neumann

    Everyday, proaborts deny material reality. Don’t expect them to make any comments that make sense.

  • Bathing Suit Area

    Does Laura Ingraham think that Wendy Davis has a time machine?

    • GoneFishing

      Trolling again?

      • Bathing Suit Area

        It’s an honest question.

        • Jason Call

          Yeah, because Laura is sincerely asking,”Hey Wendy–Are any of those playground occupants undesirable humans? Because if you’ll let me borrow your time machine(I think you have one), I’ll ride it back to the time when they were still inside their moms and I’ll convince them, the moms, to have ’em aborted, kind of as a favor to you. Time-warp eugenics, Yay!”
          Clearly, Laura Ingraham believes that Wendy Davis has a time machine.
          Good question.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Well otherwise, her question makes absolutely no sense.

        • GoneFishing

          Stupid questions. You’re not here to discuss anything. You’re trolling for effect.

    • jamesben

      No, but you do; get a couple of plastic bags, make sure they don’t leak – place over your head and breath deeply. You’ll be back in Macedonia “servicing” Alexander the Great before you can say “Man’s Country.”

      Try it.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        Nice projection.

  • jamesben

    I’d like to believe that Harvard Law isn’t a diploma mill/psycho bin – pumping out morons – but I keep hearing lunacy from these Harvard grads – or just vapid tripe like dribbles from Barack Hussein “Edited the Law Review/Didn’t Get Published” Obama.

  • Neil Leininger

    I highly doubt she wins her re-election in 2014.

  • Randy Woodin

    Only the excellent staff at FOX NETWORK like LAURA could make an ass of someone with just one question, the truth gets them every time. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK…..

  • thunderstrikes

    Filibuster for “rights” that ignore the natural right to life of the unborn. Brilliant scumbaggery!

  • m0t0rhead

    I don’t know which kids Wendy thinks should not be there, but I know which ones

    Scott DesJarlais thinks should not be there-the ones he had with his mistresses!

    • LogicalObserver

      They don’t like to talk about him and all of their friends who do the EXACT same thing. ha!

  • sodakhic

    pro choicers never seem to advocate for the other choice besides death.

    • m0t0rhead

      Scott DesJarlais is a pro choicer?

    • Bathing Suit Area

      Really? Agree we against birth now? Are we protesting against maternity wards? Remind me again who’s trying to shut down planned parenthood, even though they’re the only source of prenatal care for many women?

  • sodakhic

    Some enlightened libs are considering it a good idea to allow abortions up to two years.

    • BOB

      Yea, that’s not the point to Davis fillibustering but go ahead keep bringing it up cause it seems like that’s all you got. If Perry’s bill was to pass it would pave the way for him to get rid of all abortions in Texas, something he has publicly stated he ants to do. Now the real issue here is the fact that this bill would close all but 5 abortion clinics in Texas, thereby making it nearly logistically impossible for most women in Texas to get an abortion due to the size of the state. Now he could go the other route and propose a bill that would improve the health and safety of these clinics thus voiding the need to close them permanently, but if he did that then he wouldn’t be able to fulfill his ultimate goal. And with the 20 week ban, trust me he won’t stop there. Next it will be 10, then 5, then 1, until he reaches 0. So yeah, Wendy Davis deserves respect, especially against a guy who is obviously intimidated by her, which makes it pretty funny considering how tough he and the other Texas government reps like to act. They’re really all just cowards, like most rich over-privileged white guys I know, and this is coming from a white guy.

    • Brian

      Okay, name them.

      • SandyIam

        Dr. Peter Singer for one. Professor of Bio-Ethics at Princeton University ignited a firestorm of controversy, though his ideas about abortion and infanticide are hardly new. In 1979 he wrote, “Human babies are not born self-aware, or capable of grasping that they exist over time. They are not persons”; therefore, “the life of a newborn is of less value than the life of a pig, a dog, or a chimpanzee.”

        • Brian

          Good, we’ve got one guy from a statement he made 35 years ago. Any more?

          • SandyIam

            Before I continue, what number will satisfy you? If I post another, you’ll want three. If I post three, you’ll then demand 10. How many does it take to validate the sodkhic’s comment?

            Also, just for the record, Peter Singer has not changed his position. How about a mere 7 years ago, is that recent enough for you?:

            September 12, 2006 – In a question and answer article published in the UK’s Independent today, controversial Princeton University Professor Peter Singer repeats his notorious stand on the killing of disabled newborns. Asked, “Would you kill a disabled baby?”, Singer responded, “Yes, if that was in the best interests of the baby and of the family as a whole.”

          • SandyIam

            One more tidbit about Monster Singer, and then I must bid you adieu for the evening:

            Singer himself uses the abortion debate to justify his murderous stance.

            “Many people find this shocking,” said Singer, “yet they support a woman’s right to have an abortion.” Concluding his point, Singer said, “One point on which I agree with opponents of abortion is that, from the point of view of ethics rather than the law, there is no sharp distinction between the fetus and the newborn baby.” Asked about the choice between killing 10 cows or a human, Singer said he would kill the cows, but not because they were of less value, but because humans would mourn the death more.

            Ponder on that unconscionable comment.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Congrats, you’ve found one guy. And he sounds like he’s trolling.

          • Brian

            Well, let’s see, there were about 800 people protesting for women’s rights at the state capitol that night, and about 150,000 watching on webcam, so if we limit ourselves to the people that were directly engaged at the time… Tell you what, I’ll be generous. One percent of one percent. 16 names, and I’ll say that comes up to the level of “weird factoid”. Of course, in order to be even slightly relevant in this conversation, it would have to be a lot more widespread than that. And for the record, the 1996 statement isn’t even necessarily absurd. I’d kill a baby born with, for example, non-operating lungs or severe harlequin icthyosis. Given the option between euthanizing them or forcing them to live in terrible pain for a few days at best, I know what the humane choice is. Considering that the anti-abortion crowd doesn’t even want to allow the termination of anencephalic fetuses, I’d doubt you agree.

          • SandyIam

            Yes, but those 800 pro-choicers, and Dr. Singer, are talking about plain old healthy babies. Are you willing to kill them too?

          • Brian

            No, they aren’t. You said you’d give me more names. Singer is the only one talking about babies, and not “plain old healthy babies”, at least not in the 1996 statement, where he said he was referring to disabled babies. Besides, Singer’s a philosopher who makes deliberately provocative statements about extreme ideas. I have no idea if he even believes them. It’s irrelevant, because there’s no evidence so far that anyone else holds those views. I believe you owe me 15 more names. 1% of 1% of the .04% of Americans who were directly viewing the filibuster.

          • Mickey O’Brien

            And still professes today. At a leading American university. Nice try. How about Alberto Giubilini? Francesca Minerva? Alisa LaPolt Snow? Julian Savulescu? Robert Scott and Melvin Watt? How about Barack Obama – who opposed the Born Alive legislation?

  • Michael Rocker

    Most of you talk so big about Pro life and Anti Abortion. You seem to forget that while all of you are saying you are pro life till a baby is born are you going to take care of this baby after it’s born. Protect it pre birth but then it’s fend for yourself till the day you die . Which brings up another touchy point. Texas is Pro Death Penalty. So tell me where the dividing line is. Can you say HYPOCRITICAL? Bush was PRO LIFE but at the same time put more prisoners down then any governor in the history of the US. Rick Perry is the same way. You’re either one way or the other you can’t be both.

    • m0t0rhead

      You forgot to mention the king of all hypocrites-Rep.Scott DesJarlais of Tennessee.

      • Michael Rocker

        I just looked him up and saw his picture and if the shoe fits. He shaved his head and he definitely looks like a dick (penis) head

        • Bathing Suit Area

          Don’t be hating on the bald.

        • Bathing Suit Area

          Don’t be hating on the bald.

    • Rena

      I haven’t forgotten that a child will result if there isn’t an abortion but have these women forgotten that having unprotected sex can result in conceiving a child? I’m sure they aren’t that stupid are they or are they just using abortion as a means of birth control. They should either keep their legs closed or make good use of other birth control methods instead of going to the local butcher shop and have their babies sliced up. Its about time these women be held responsible for their actions BEFORE they make the “mistake” instead of after.

      Also to add more about the “taking care” of these “unwanted” children, there are thousands of couples out there who are willing to take care of them by way of adoption…

      And as far as the Death Penalty, I’m completely for it as long as there is no doubt what so ever of the guilt of the person committing such a crime that calls for it. The two, in my opinion, are not the same. A child doesn’t asked to be conceived but is the result of two consenting adults who should be responsible enough when making that decision to have sex. The result is an innocent child. In the death penalty, the offender makes the conscious decision to commit such an act that calls for that sentence. These would be, if I had my druthers, would be serial murderers, mass murderers, willful and intentional murder and violent serial rapists and child molesters, and persons who are guilty of distribution of drugs to kids.

    • SandyIam

      The dividing line is innocence. There is no hypocrisy. In order to have hypocrisy, you have to have an equal argument. Babies are INNOCENT; Convicted felons are GUILTY. The innocent have done nothing to merit receiving death. The guilty have done heinous acts that merit death. Babies cannot make their own choices. The convicted chose their own actions. Things that are different are not the same. What part of equality do you see between the innocent vs. the guilty?

      • Michael Rocker

        How about the fact that many innocent men and women went to their deaths proclaiming their innocence only to be executed and found not guilty after they were dead. But all in all the death penalty is still taking a life so your point is wrong.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        The dividing line is uterus.

    • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

      Okay, you tell me-does an unborn baby deserve to die as much as a murderer? Or A Child Molester? TREATING THE INNOCENT AS THE “PROBLEM” IS NEVER THE SOLUTION! Jawamax 8<{D}

      • Michael Rocker

        You are another of those save the baby and leave the rest to fend for ourselves.i don’t know if you are even old enough to remember prior to Roe v. Wade when abortion was illegal in most states. back then women were having to get them done by non medically trained or licensed doctors. Women had died and others became sterile after having a “Coat Hangar Abortion”. Do you really want to see that again? Think about that. Right now we are only talking about Texas which does not stop a woman from going to another state if this happens. So get your head out of your butt. What a woman does with her body is her business and unless you are related to this particular woman keep your nose out of her effing business.

  • Brian

    Okay, which kids on the playground should be forced to carry a rapist’s baby to term? See? I can make ridiculous talking points, too.

    • Jason Call

      Truly, you can.

      • Brian

        Thanks.

    • SandyIam

      Did the unborn baby rape someone?

      • Brian

        If we’re taking your point of view that the “unborn baby” is a person, then yes, it’s entered the girl’s reproductive organs without her permission. I guess that’s rape. Again, I’m being wildly and stupidly over the top, but so is Ingraham. At least I know I am.

        • SandyIam

          So now you’re defining rape as an unwanted pregnancy? You keep moving the goal post in the middle of the game so that its now convenient to your argument. Rape is no excuse for murder of a baby. Simply being on the other side of the vagina is not the dividing point between life and death. Many victims of crime are burdened with the consequences of the crime whether it’s fair to the victim or not. Victims of DWI perps mangled in car wrecks are stuck as cripples even though they didn’t agree to have their spinal cords severed. Should we abort them as well? Its unfortunate, but crime exists and we don’t kill the innocent so we can pretend that the crime never existed. Killing an undelivered live baby to make the girl feel better is uncivilized and an act of unadulterated savagery.

          • Brian

            “So now you’re defining rape as an unwanted pregnancy?”

            No, I’m making a deliberately stupid statement to highlight Ingraham’s accidentally stupid statement. And while it’s true that many victims of crimes are burdened with consequences, none of those consequences are easily fixed by a simple medical procedure. And no babies are murdered. You can call a fetus a baby, but that doesn’t make it so. These are words with actual definitions. The act of savagery is to take control of a person’s body away from them.

          • SandyIam

            You mean like taking control of an undelivered baby’s body away from them? Yes, we agree, That is definitely an act of savagery.

            Calling a fetus, a “fetus” is by definition calling it a baby. Fetus is Latin for “small child”. However, its every bit “alive” as a tumor in the womb. If it weren’t, then why go through all the trouble to “kill” it? You can’t “abort” or “terminate” something that isn’t alive. Kidney stones aren’t alive, there’s no need to “abort” or “terminate” kidney stones. We simply let kidney stones “pass”, we don’t take affirmative action to “kill” them.

            Fetuses are just undelivered, but very much alive, as is a tumor. (Which is not to compare the two in moral values, but compare the existence of “life” in both.) The difference being the tumor is malevolent and will kill the woman, and will never be healthy, independent or worthy of making its own choices. The fetus is beneficial to life and procreation, and innocent and worthy of life. Again, things that are different, are not the same.

        • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

          Just like those Extreme Feminazis #RushLimbaugh who say “All Marriage is slavery,” and “All Childbirth is Rape”, right? Or in another sense, Pregnancy is a “Disease”….And for their “Convenience,” abortion is available. And despite the fact that “You can’t get blood from a stone,” #MyPhilosophy(ies), I think any woman who gives birth to their rapists baby should SUE THE ATTACKER for Child Support, if she decides to keep it! That should teach the bad guys about attacking women….Jawamax 8<{D}

        • Mickey O’Brien

          “it’s entered the girl’s reproductive organs without her permission” – did you go to the Todd Akin School of Human Reproduction?

      • Mickey O’Brien

        By some of the circular arguments here by abortion supporters, I can see how one might draw that conclusion.

    • Rena

      Do you know what the statistics are for your hypothesis? Perhaps you should do a bit of research before asking this ridiculous question. According to an article written 2005, sorry it was the first one I found but I’m sure the reasons/statistics have not changed much in the past 8 years, is that 0.5% to 1% of women who were got abortions listed rape/incest as their reason. Many women gave more than one reason for their choice with 74% saying they got an abortion because “having a baby would dramatically change their life (would interfere with education, jobs, other children). 73% said they can’t afford a child right now. 48% said they didn’t want to be a single mother or they were having relationship problems. 38% said they have completed their childbearing, 32% said they are not ready, 25% said they didn’t want people to know they had sex, 22% said they didn’t feel mature enough, 13% claimed their partner wanted them to get an abortion, 13% said problems affecting the health of the fetus, 12%
      claimed physical problems of their own, 6% claim their parents wanted them to get it.

      The mainreason the majority of women are getting abortions, it seems, is for selfish reasons, mainly because the child would interfere with their lives. Responsibility starts with self and that means if you don’t want a child yet either keep your legs closed, get on some kind of birth control or get fixed.

      Lawrence B., Finer, Lori F. Frohwirth, Lindsay A.
      Dauphinee, Susheela Singh, Ann M. Moore (2005) Reasons U.S. Women Have Abortions: Quantitative and Qualitative Perspectives, retrieved from: http://womensissues.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=womensissues&cdn=newsissues&tm=31&f=10&tt=2&bt=8&bts=8&zu=http%3A//www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

      • Brian

        Frankly, none of those reasons sound selfish to me. You want people to have children they can’t afford? You want children to be born to unprepared or incapable parents? You want children to be tied to abusive parents, and to tie their mother to an abusive partner? I thought you liked children. I know I do. That’s why I only want children who are wanted and loved to be born into this world.

        • justlisa

          There are many children born to such circumstances… and, yet, no ones advocating their murder. Weird.

        • Rena

          Then like I stated, if they are not ready for a child or another child in some cases use common sense and use some type of birth control that doesn’t result in the murder of unborn babies, don’t spread ‘um or get fixed to where you wont have to worry about getting pregnant. Its really not that hard to be responsible for your own actions.

        • Mickey O’Brien

          A very humanist position. People who view children as a blessing from God, and people who view life as given by God, would have a hard time with your arguments. If you are concerned about an unwanted pregnancy, keep it in your pants.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        Thanks for the shifting goalposts there. 98.5% of abortions are done before 20 weeks. Can we see the breakdown of reasons for those done after?

    • louisiana_mom

      First, if a woman is raped the hospital gives her the morning after pill. Secondly, the woman still has 20 weeks to get an abortion. That’s 5 months, by this point there are signs to let a woman know she is most definitely pregnant. So, take your pathetic hypothetical question somewhere else.

      • Brian

        It wasn’t entirely sincere, it was a response to Laura Ingraham’s pathetic hypothetical question.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        ” if a woman is raped the hospital gives her the morning after pill. ”
        As long as she doesn’t make the mistake of going to a Catholic hospital.

        • louisiana_mom

          Well, then she has 20 WEEKS to get an abortion! That is 5 months!!! I think in that time she can decide to kill her baby! Not to mention that Plan B is now available OTC, so she can purchase it herself after being raped. This is still a strawman argument without any merit!

          • Bathing Suit Area

            “Plan B is now available OTC”

            Which you guys have been fighting against tooth and nail. Pardon me if we’re not exactly trusting you guys on the matter.

          • louisiana_mom

            My problem with it being available OTC is that a girl of any age can purchase it! When these same teen girls cannot purchase cold medications… if a teen is not old enough in the minds of you Progressives to know when she has a cold how is she responsible enough to purchase Plan B.

            And you are trying to shift the subject… Plan B is available (whether I like it or not) so your original argument is moot!

    • Mickey O’Brien

      Why, are you thinking of raping one?

  • jb

    Not even in Prog central (socialist democracies of Continental Europe) do they permit late term abortion (without reason — highly dysfunctional babies/potential of death of mother (sorry — but sometimes there are some very hard choices (read Of Mice and Men for one of them))).

  • BeeKaaay

    Leftwingwackos are bloodthirsty. They love it when children are ripped limb from limb in the most painful manner.

    • Brian

      Considering that there’s no evidence pain perception exists before 26-30 weeks, that’s not really relevant right now.

      • SandyIam

        There’s no empirical evidence that pain perception exists IN ANY HUMAN BEING, AT ANY TIME since there are no instruments that can measure the existence of pain. We only take the human’s word for it and how intense the pain is. We can only measure the human’s response to the pain, not the pain itself. Perhaps we could lend that same courtesy to the baby….if it could only speak for itself.

        • Brian

          Yeah, we can detect the existence of pain. We can’t make a relative comparison of its severity or intensity, but we know what parts of the brain are affected, and how the feeling is spread to the rest of the body, so while we can’t measure pain, we can find it.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        Oh you liberals, always trying to bring “evidence” and “science” into things. Don’t you know that women who have abortions are admitting that they’ve had sex! They are evil!

  • david pope

    i still do not understand why they have to wait so long to get the abortion. if she didn’t want it, it seems that they would even know it before the 20 weeks

    • Bathing Suit Area

      Maybe the foetus hasn’t developed properly and the could only find out then.

      Maybe they couldn’t afford our until they saved up the money (publicly funded abortions would avoid this problem).

  • SaltineCracker

    Im sorry but you people are fucking idiots. There are so many scenarios where having the option of abortion is necessary. In cases of rape or incest saying “Theres always adoption” is such a simple answer for something that is not simple at all. What about the mental aspects of being raped and having to carry a child that came about from non consensual sex? So a woman is supposed to not only live with the fact she was raped, she has to carry a child she didnt want for 9 months go through labor give birth and live everyday knowing there is a child created from sin carrying the genetics of a rapist? Having to wonder when said child is going to come find her when they find out they’re adopted and having to look a child in the face that bares the same face as the man that raped her. Having to wake up everyday reliving that moment over and over because you nut jobs. Id be damned if someone wants to regulate what is going on in our own bodies. Laws that prohibit us from controlling what is within our own bodies might as well be rape itself.

    • RogerDane

      Typical ‘name calling’ myth buying cracker.
      No matter your knee jerk response to those supposedly telling you what to do (although you cannot see that the ‘pro-abortion’ powers have been leading you about by your uterus for years!) the facts are too clear to argue. Abortions resulting from rape or incest are less than 1.5% of all abortions and many rape victims (statistics indicate from 40 to 60% carry to term) chose not to.
      Abortion is at least as great an invasion into a woman’s body as rape. It produces, on its own, serious medical and psychological repercussions in more than half of those who experience the procedures and late term abortions result in higher incidents of ‘extreme’ anguish related behaviors.
      As far as having a child ‘created’ from sin, the countless examples of woman who carry to term and either raise or adopt out for raising the “child” overwhelm your emoting “I’m my own boss” (prideful as sin) position.
      I have treated women who’ve used abortion three or four times and, while that number is not statistically the majority, many women simply cannot control the position of their knees and allowing “one bad decision to be followed by another” simply because it is their (which they gave away how many times) womb is not morally or intellectually sound. You want to control your own bodies, do so before conception!

      • SaltineCracker

        Well the difference between rape and abortion is that one can choose to partake in having an abortion. One can not simply decide if they want to be raped or not. One can not control being impregnated against their will. Im a man not a woman. Im not pro-abortion nor am I pro-life. I am not a liberal or a conservative. Just a passer by who does not agree with the bias in most these comments justifying the results of rape. I will not argue with people who have no perspective outside of their world. What is lovely about this country is the freedom to speak your opinion. Sadly anyone who speaks their opinion here will just be crucified by the hive mind in this comment section.

    • jlaughlin982

      You seriously need to relocate to another part of this country where less rape and incest happens (I recommend anywhere outside your imagination.) Then maybe you’d see our point. All kidding aside, the instances of rape and incest are minute compared to the ‘just don’t feel like it’ mentality. Also, there are ALREADY LAWS IN PLACE addressing abortion in cases of rape or incest, so your argument is invalid.

      • SaltineCracker

        I live in Texas actually. The instances might be minute, but they still happen. I know there are laws in place for that I was responding to the individuals that believe there shouldn’t be laws in place for that.

        • jlaughlin982

          “The instances may be minute, but they still happen.”

          You mean like voter fraud? I’d give you a pass as a fellow Texan, but this ‘rape and incest’ pat response is a little played out. But at least you’re better than some of your fellow pro-choice arguers. I actually read a guy say yesterday that, and I quote, “fetuses are more like parasites than children.” And you wonder why most people coin you guys as ‘pro-abortion.’ But hey, next time point me in the direction of those jackasses who think rape and incest isn’t a viable excuse for abortion (even though I’d hope the victim would have taken care of the matter prior to 5 months into gestation.) I’ll gladly fight by your side.

          • SaltineCracker

            Ha sadly the thing about voter fraud is it doesn’t seem to be very minute anymore…seems to occur far too often these days! I do think 5 months is too long, that I will have no issues agreeing with. I was just more angered by some comments where individuals labeled rape victims who want abortions as being “weak” or to just deal with it. Called a fetus a parasite is plain wrong. Im somewhere in between when it comes to the subject of abortion, but I will always stand by the “rape” angle.

    • Mickey O’Brien

      How many of the 80,000 abortions in Texas last year were pregnancies that resulted from rape or incest? Statistics are generally 1-2 per 1,000. That would be 80-160. I’ll grant you the rape exception to spare 79,900 lives, for all of the reasons you had mentioned regarding the psychological health of the mother. If that makes me a “nut-job” then I know a lot of people eager to wear that badge. But something tells me that even a rape and incest exception would not be enough for you.

  • Mike Karp

    How many more kids do we have to kill, before this country wakes up. We scream about how we need more workers “so pass imagration” the left screams, how about we just let these “murdered” children live to grow up.

  • Blade_Runner_1776

    Liberal’Democrat Party is without a doubt the Party of Death. Unless, it is the spotted owl, bald eagle, or some fish in California. Liberals with a conscience – an oxymoron.

  • Tman95

    Advocating the death of unborn children, and the right to use unsafe and unsanitary abortion clinics….yep, that’s heroic. Do these libturds ever pause to think about the causes they champion?

  • http://yellowdoggrannie.blogspot.com yellowdoggranny

    closing down the clinic’s won’t end abortions, it will only end legal ones..thus putting everyone at risk.

    • Night Owl

      Everyone?

  • Chuck Bronson MSSW

    I basically like Laura Ingraham, but sometimes she’s a little TOO smug and rhetorical. This question, whether or not Ms. Ingraham actually posed it as reported, to Sen. Davis is not fair. I don’t know how or whether Sen. Davis responded to such an unfair question; I would like to know. But if I had been in her place, playing the devil’s advocate, I might have referred Laura to certain state-run child care institutions around the world, including in our own country, filled with babies and children so tragically deformed and disabled that they cannot do anything for themselves and no one wants or can bear to take them home for themselves. In many cases their own parents and families do not even come to visit. Such children are doomed to spend their whole biological lives in a loveless, one might even dare to say, meaningless existence, at the mercy and whims of state authorities and/or institutional care-givers. Where are all the vociferous pro-life advocates in regard to such as these? Wouldn’t even us pro-lifers say it would have been better that such children had not been born? Even Jesus said of a certain person, “It would have been good if that man had never been born.” (Matt. 26:20, Mk. 14:21)

    • Kat

      If you believe that these people should never have been born, do you advocate state-sanctioned infanticide of these kids?

      And you have the audacity to refer to yourself as pro-life?

  • Sanity Check

    5 months isn’t long enough to decide?

  • Jack Mahon

    Geez, you’re funny. I’ll bet you’re a riot at a party at the asylum..

  • Ldedwards

    Hey Medford, even a retarded person call figure out the directions on a package of birth control pills. Develop just a teensy bit of moral integrity ok.

  • Tired_Tech

    My question to Ms. Davis would be, “If it’s really about women’s rights, shouldn’t only boy babies be allowed to be aborted?”

  • Herbert Napp

    Yay another distraction for the three day news cycle idiots. Next up; Trayvawwwwwwwwn verdict.

  • Guest

    Yeah – great way to phrase an issue that’s about a personal health choice and one’s own pregnancy. This has nothing to do with making decisions about other people’s kids on a playground. How is that at all related? Please explain.

  • Jim Rasmussen

    If they don’t have a problem with it now, they never will.

  • Jim Rasmussen

    If they don’t have a problem with it now, they never will.

  • RNinRNO

    That is the problem with abortion, there are no visible bodies to count. If we were shown the products of abortion ie the fetus maybe that would start to change things!!!

  • RNinRNO

    That is the problem with abortion, there are no visible bodies to count. If we were shown the products of abortion ie the fetus maybe that would start to change things!!!

  • Alan C Rohner

    I don’t think it matters.

  • Dick Obama

    It’s currently 50 million in the United States and still happening,

  • MissJames

    I just wish those fighting so hard ,especially to keep the 20 week bill from passing, had to watch at least one of these babies being killed. Maybe an ultrasound while the baby goes from moving around to being ripped apart. My youngest son was a 25 weeker .He’s adopted and we didn’t meet him for months,but the NICU staff worked tirelessly for months and months to save him. We saw so many teeny preemies like him,less than 2 lbs at birth,crying ,reacting to pain,struggling to live.
    For God’s sake, let them live! Give them away if you don’t want them,but let them live.

  • Mark Moda

    Clearly more guilty than an unborn baby! Right?

  • Douglas White

    And unborn children are guilty of NOTHING!

  • Douglas White

    And unborn children are guilty of NOTHING!

  • OliverBx

    The ONLY truly innocent humans on the entire planet are unborn human children, yet YOU find slaughtering them OK, while defending convicted murderers?…..You and Dr Mengele, and Adolf Hitl er have a lot in common.

  • walterc

    People that are convicted of murder are guilty of murder much more often than unborn children are guilty of anything more than being conceived.

    That’s all I’m saying, if you think it’s ok to kill a baby, why isn’t it ok to kill a murderer?

  • disgusted_with_government

    Following your reasoning, pre-born children likewise should not be executed?

  • Denna Freed

    99.99 % are guilty.

  • gunnyf

    Cut out the BS Michelle. That’s not what it’s about. I’m anti-death penalty myself but what is pissing off conservatives here is the blatant hypocrisy of the left. The same people who are pro-abortion are usually anti death penalty. The same people who want to crucify Bush for the Patriot act are Okay with Obama doing the same thing. Those who want to keep government out of the bedroom are okay with it in a church. Don’t try to distort the facts. You’re talking apples and apples but trying to call one apple a cantaloupe

  • Orwellian_Dilemma

    You wanna give babies a jury trial before killing them? Let’s tee it up!

  • Alan C Rohner

    RIGHT!

  • Robin Rountree

    took the words right out of my mouth bunch of hypocrites

  • DiDiRock

    Because they don’t believe it actually IS a baby. That is the only thing that will make me understand the concept. You can’t believe it’s a baby, because once you do there is no excuse on earth that would make it acceptable to terminate a pregnancy. And it you do believe it is a baby, a child, a child with no choice as you are exercising your own, then I have to question that choice.

  • Damien Johnson

    With these people; Spanking child? bad. Shooting a home intruder to defend yourself and your child? Bad. Sucking a child out of a safe place and ripping him/her to pieces? A right.

  • Phillip McAllister

    What “RMFitz” and others of his (or her) ilk fail to appreciate or sympathize with is the fact that women–girls–are and have been using abortion as birth control for decades. It’s time to make them abortions difficult to get since no one seems to be able to keep it in their pants anymore. Women, especially “poor” black women, need to think before they act. And, if sex is so important to these women, so should be the responsibility of raising the child on their own, without the help of the taxpayer.

    Why must I subsidize someone else’s sexual impulsiveness?

  • walterc

    Yep.

  • Vitiosum

    I think you pretty much nailed it with that description. If a woman uses abortion as the end all/be all of birth control, it pretty much means that not only do they lack the sense to attain or use such methods as birth control, it also means they probably treat their own bodies with the same reverence, which is none. This is only my opinion based on what I have seen a few women do. Not only does an abortion viciously dismember the infant, it can and will occasionally really screw up a woman’s reproductive system. With that being said, the part about screwing up the woman’s reproductive organs isn’t a bad idea, it will keep them from murdering again, and Karma will have done the job.

  • Robin Rountree

    yea people were out in the streets raising hell about Bush waterboarding 3 terrorist but its cool for BHO to drone women and children to get to a terrorist geez libs always want it both ways!

  • jobewan

    You are dumb. Your assertions are both false, and dumb. That’s why you don’t get it; your basing your perspective on junk information. ‘Plan B’ for instance constitutes abortion, since conception has already occurred (if indeed it has occurred at all), and pregnancy has been achieved. Sex education is different from sec marketing [in schools]. Again; you are dumb.

  • jmartin9412

    I think you are grouping all of “us” way to broadly. First of all, the only people I’ve ever heard speak against birth control are Catholics, not Christians. Big difference there. Just because you’re a Christian doesn’t mean you’re against contraception at all. In fact I have many christian friends, even Jehovah’s Witnesses, who use birth control while married because they don’t want to have kids yet, or at all. Secondly, I believe most of us oppose sex education to children under a certain age. Ya know, like 5 year old children. I know my mother was conservative my entire childhood and had no problem with our sexual education course we took when we were closer to ten or eleven (ya know, when you’re actually hitting puberty). I think if you actually looked at most pro-lifers you’d find that we have a lot more complex beliefs than you’d like to believe.

  • LogicalObserver

    There in lies the rub! They also don’t like “big government” so they are total hypocrites. Of course, in Texas, apparently it IS okay to kill grown woman. Of course, he was let off my a jury of his peers (backwater redneck fs): http://www.salon.com/2013/06/06/texas_man_acquitted_in_craiglist_escort_murder/

  • bicentennialguy

    Roe cannot be “repealed.” It was a Supreme Court decision. It must again be taken up at the Supreme Court level.

  • Orwellian_Dilemma

    You haven’t actually read, Roe, and don’t seem to realize that Casey is the case which controls. Perhaps you should educate yourself before opining. . . .

  • MikeBratton

    There is no such thing as a “right” to kill a developing child via abortion.

  • rickg62

    The fact that it’s the 9th Circuit Court says it all. You can’t get any further left than this court.

  • MikeBratton

    Amazing how uninformed folks with your worldview can be on a fundamental issue. “B D,” where do rights come from? I’ve asked this question before, and gotten horribly wrong answers around here, but perhaps you’ll get it.

  • MikeBratton

    This, whoever you are, is a country founded on the understanding that rights come from God. If you don’t like it, that’s on you. And since God is against the killing of children, there is no “right” to kill a developing child.

  • MikeBratton

    The “host.” As if a child in the womb is a parasite.

    You do get, don’t you, that a child at nine months’ gestation is neither outside the mother nor breathing air? Does it make you feel better to support murder when you dehumanize and objectify the victims?

  • Orwellian_Dilemma

    From Isaacson v. Horne (the Arizona case): “As used throughout this opinion, “viability” refers to “the time at which there is a realistic possibility of maintaining and nourishing a life outside the womb.” Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833, 870 (1992) (citing Roe, 410 U.S. at 163).

    From McCormack v. Idaho: Plaintiffs’ challenge to the abortion statutes in question focuses on their purported infringement on the constitutional right to choose an abortion, first enunciated in Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), and more recently refined in Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992).

  • MikeBratton

    I didn’t ask you what you believe in. I asked you where rights come from. And your answer was incorrect. Would you care to try again?

  • Orwellian_Dilemma

    I’d say mainly because the Fifth Circuit is much more reasonable than the 9th Circuit (Issacson) or some loon district court judge (McCormack).

    I haven’t compared the texts, either. Are the bills identical?

  • Damien Johnson

    I saw somebody say yesterday that pregnancy can cause future infertility. So an abortion being preferable to that…

  • Orwellian_Dilemma

    I’m not convinced it won’t. Then, if the Fifth and the Ninth Circuits are in conflict, Supreme Court.

    Nonetheless, I get your point. But, sometimes you need to get those who like to kill babies for fun and profit on record as such.

  • Orwellian_Dilemma

    What, you mean a violent mob preventing legislative action through violence? It is a changing country.

    And what is it that you liberals so enjoy about killing babies for fun and profit? The sound their little skulls make when you collapse them? The terrified screams when they are placed on a stainless steel table and have their spinal cords severed? The feet collected in jars?

  • GoneFishing

    That is, quite frankly, the job of responsible parenting. Not the tax paying society. Which leads us back to putting the responsibilities back where they belong. These days, parents fall short of their responsibilities of parenting. The gimme-gimme generation believes there is a tax payer funded solution to everything. Do you believe I should provide contraceptives to others against my will and out of my pocket. Do you believe I should pay for someone else’s abortion out of my pocket? The tax payer is being forced to be the victim of the improprietous behavior of others here.

  • Vitiosum

    Depending on the pregnancy and what medical indications have occurred, then yes it can happen, unfortunately I am a good example of that. But infertility caused by just being pregnant and having a term pregnancy with no medical issues at all I can’t speak to. I just don’t understand why people insist on using abortion as birth control in this day and age. I certainly do not think abortion is preferable. But that is just me.

  • Orwellian_Dilemma

    Austin is more like San Francisco than Texas. Their unofficial motto is “Keep Austin Weird.” (Seriously.)

    My question still stands, however. What is it that liberals like so much about killing babies at thirty-four weeks?

  • Orwellian_Dilemma

    You can call a baby a boomerang but it doesn’t make it one. Quit being a moral coward and admit you like killing babies for fun and profit.

  • Orwellian_Dilemma

    Slavery was the law as well. Jim Crow was the law. Women being prohibited from owning property was the law.

    That doesn’t make it right.

  • John Rebori

    We also use the words infant, toddler, teenager, adult. Those, like a fetus are all human beings.

  • MikeBratton

    “Nuh-uh” is hardly intelligent discourse. You might want to try something else.

  • John Rebori

    Your answer is wrong as documented by the Bill of Rights. Ninth amendment specifically states “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.” That is, the people have rights not specifically listed in this document. Whether you believe they come from God or Nature, they most certainly do not come from the Constitution.

  • m0t0rhead

    God is against killing children?

    The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be
    conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will
    bring out her children to be slaughtered.” O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don’t give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, “All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children.”
    (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

    “Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow
    him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

    And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

  • m0t0rhead

    Not “God”-from what I have seen the children of the Catholic church have no rights. Well maybe the right to get molested.

  • MikeBratton

    You’re just loaded with hatred. That’s not healthy. Or wise.

  • MikeBratton

    You have big-time cutting-and-pasting skills. And either a willful ignorance of what you thought was so cool to cut-and-paste, or a woeful lack of reading comprehension.

    A lot of hate, though–you’re packed to the gills with that.

  • Bathing Suit Area

    There is no such thing as a right to occupy someone else’s womb, take nutrients from their body, and exit via their vagina.

  • m0t0rhead

    Hatred? I didn’t molest kids or cover up their abuse like the “infallible” one in Rome.

  • m0t0rhead

    HA HA if you think I am going to waste my time typing everything from the “good book” you are out of your mind. You said “God” is against killing kids, and yet there he is talking about killing them. Of course you don’t have an answer so you go the standard response-“you are full of hate” or “you are so angry”. Okay, so now that you think you have my state of mind sussed out, you think you could give me an answer as to why you said God is against killing kids when clearly he is not.

  • MikeBratton

    Ah. So no one should be born, ever. Gotcha.

  • Bathing Suit Area

    The possibility that someone might voluntarily choose to have a baby is utterly foreign to you, huh?

    Everything has to be either forbidden or mandatory to you authoritarians.

  • MikeBratton

    You are loaded with hate. It’s not at all difficult to discern. Actually, I could explain to you why your cutting-and-pasting is so misguided, but it would be a waste of time until you actually are interested in listening, rather than in hating.

  • MikeBratton

    When a child is conceived, the normal course of events is for that child to make his or her way into the world. It’s called the “right to life.” The only thing that needs to be “forbidden” is for people like you to advocate or actively work to murder that child before (or, in increasing numbers of instances, after) he or she is born.

  • Bathing Suit Area

    So by having sex, women lose any right to control how their bodies are used? Lovely.

  • MikeBratton

    And sex always results in conception. Yes, that’s precisely what I said. You didn’t twist my words in the slightest. How prescient of you.

  • m0t0rhead

    Dude you are repeating yourself. The only “hate” I wrote was the one in your book and the one perpetuated by the church. Don’t worry I won’t press you any more, I have seen a conservative go all fetal (no pun intended) when stumped before.

  • MikeBratton

    You haven’t begun to “press” me, whoever you are and whatever that’s supposed to mean, but you are either unwilling or unable to answer a really simple question. If you’ll scroll up, I explained to you straightforwardly that I’m not interested in talking with you about what you quoted, because you’re not interesting in talking about it.

    You thought to use the Bible as a brickbat, it didn’t work, and now, when faced with a simple question about you and your life, you either can’t, or won’t, answer. That should concern you.

  • m0t0rhead

    You CAN’T talk to me about what I quoted, there is a difference. You made a ridiculous statement, I came up with a rebuttal which you can’t counter…no problem. Brick Bat eh? You are one to talk. A guy who rails against Gays and Lesbians by saying, “it is a sin the Bible says so”! (that is your argument on NewsBusters for anything involving gay rights) Can’t you think for yourself? You copied and pasted an outdated book to the hard drive between your ears. It is 2013 and your life revolves around one book! Christian Youth Theater really? America is in a crisis- we don’t make anything anymore, and you are doing Christian productions of children’s fairy tales. This is your contribution? Get off your high horse lol!
    Anyway I leave you with the words of an ex pentecostal preacher.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPuRTroOE9c

    P.S GO HOGS!!!!!!!!!!

  • Denna Freed

    I have researched MANY of the cases in which folks who have been convicted of murder have had the ruling overturned – and it WASN’T necessarily because they weren’t guilty – but because of a technicality that allowed them to go free. That DOESN’T make them innocent, that just makes them LUCKY!!!

    Now, given your response, my guess is you are one of those women who are “romantically involved” with one (or more) of those “poor, innocent, wrongly accused” inmates. But whether you are or not, lady you have some very SERIOUS mental health issues going on there.
    And I hope, goddamn I do hope! – that some day you either get the help you need… or YOU get locked in an institution where you can do no harm to yourself or others!!!!

  • Bathing Suit Area

    Ah, the famed civility and tolerance of the right.

  • SaltineCracker

    Sounds kind of like this one time back in Germany…

  • Bathing Suit Area

    Yes. Given the numbers involved, it’s genocide once or twice a night for me.

  • Mickey O’Brien

    Did they teach you Sex Ed in school?

  • ToyZebra

    It depends. Do you buy male or female tissues? It can be hard to tell sometime. You have to read the fine print on the box.

  • Mickey O’Brien

    Do you know how many of the 500 were not guilty? If so, why did you withhold the evidence? And tell me how many of the 80,000 unborn children deserved to die? I’m not a fan of the death penalty either, so I love your righteous indignation. Too bad that you have different standards for innocents and criminals.

  • BabyGravyMcSeedington

    Whats a Sex Ed? Is that some sort of anal bead?

  • BabyGravyMcSeedington

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  • MikeBratton

    So you’re a stalker now. Priceless. But not unexpected.

  • jobewan

    Sorry RM; I thought you would understand that to which you were exposing yourself with those largely groundless, value-judgement-based comments. I simply tried to respond in kind.

    If indeed we’re switching to fact-based rhetoric or drivel (depending on context/perception), then perhaps we can try this stuff on for size:

    – Women die, you know . . D-I-E . . at the hands of abortionists with some alarming regularity. Look it up. This seems counterintuitive to abortion somehow being a component of “women’s health”.

    – In both civil and criminal law, the entity suffering the greatest impact of an intent/action/outcome, is the actual victim, which by implication defines/indicts the ‘doer’. In the case of abortion, the child loses its life as a surety, clearing identifying that child as the victim, and the mother as the ‘doer’, or perhaps even perpetrator. Having participated in an abortion with my [now] wife, I/we know what it’s like to grow up and understand that which I/we did, in actuality. And live with the consequences, forever.

    – The term “Christian” is about as clear as the term “gays” and as a result, offers little to no functional description of a majority segment in the abortion debate, if indeed such a group is even a majority in that debate.

    – When sex takes place without contraception, what exactly is there to prevent – the next date? (maybe Dr. Estes knows) Emergency postcoital contraception is a crap shoot, meaning that it may or may not prevent conception. Which is about the same as saying, “I had unprotected sex, and she may, or may not get pregnant.” I assumed you were talking about the more meaningful class of drugs known as abortifacients. My mistake.

    Since we’re no longer basing this segment of the discussion on puerile value judgements, I won’t any longer comment on anyone’s relative dumbness. Not even once.