Gov. Rick Perry calls another special session for pro-life bill vote; Pro-aborts get nasty

Texas State Senator Wendy Davis and a screaming mob of protesters may have successfully prevented a full vote on S.B. 5 last night, but Governor Rick Perry is not deterred. He has called another special legislative session for July 1 to give lawmakers another shot at defending the unborn:

From his office’s official statement:

“I am calling the Legislature back into session because too much important work remains undone for the people of Texas. Through their duly elected representatives, the citizens of our state have made crystal clear their priorities for our great state. Texans value life and want to protect women and the unborn. Texans want a transportation system that keeps them moving. Texans want a court system that is fair and just. We will not allow the breakdown of decorum and decency to prevent us from doing what the people of this state hired us to do.

The haters are already out in full force:

https://twitter.com/madswee/status/350004451920199681

Despicable.

But ultimately, all the bile they spew is in the name of an unjust cause. Life is sacred, and we will never stop fighting for the unborn:

Thank you, Governor.

  • sybilll

    These ghouls really are the party of Abortion On Demand. If you could X-ray one’s conscience, theirs would be blank.

    • Elaine

      Rick Perry is my new hero; standing up for the babies. Thank you brave sir!

      • CatHerder

        Rick Perry is not a hero, just a man doing what he was elected to do. That’s a point of pride for us in Texas. We don’t claim to do the impossible, but when we say we’re going to do something, we do it. Period.

        • Jeremy

          well said.He is doing his job unlike these ghouls liberal so called heroes.

        • Elaine

          Sorry, but you have to be BRAVE to stand up to the bullies on the left. That does make him a hero, if he saves some lives!

          • CatHerder

            Milady, he is not a hero but a MAN. We MEN know by virtue of a proper upbringing that there are consequences to our actions. Such as siring a child.

          • JoAnn

            Well said.

        • http://whatandever.blogspot.com/ Osumashi Kinyobe

          I hope he is successful in his efforts to shut down legalised back-alley abortionists that the pro-abortion movement seems to have no trouble with.

    • Vennoye

      They can stay in their Culture of Death if they want to, HOWEVER; the rest of us in the State of Texas want these abortions after 20 weeks stopped!! If they were responsible with what they did with their body parts and did not get pregnant, they would not hear a word from anyone.

      • Lorena Garcia

        If that is what this bill were about you’d have a fine point to debate. However, this bill would effectively shut down the majority of abortion clinics in Texas, which is what most are protesting.

        • Peter Wass

          You tell them sister. How dare anyone infringe your right to infanticide on demand.

        • mike

          All the AP articles keep repeating that clinics that don’t meet the standard of walk-in surgical center would have to close. They always leave “or upgrade their facilities” unspoken. It’s not like PP can’t get more $ from Uncle “O” or the IRS or someone. There will probably end up being MORE clinics – but at least they should be safer and less Gosnelly.

          • Wally West

            All this does is regulate clinics that do abortions. So they be more safer for women?
            Why are liberals so scared of this?

          • gekkobear

            Requiring surgery done on women be clean and “surgical” by medical terms is a “war on women”.

            Doing a surgery in a place with no requirements or oversight by whoever wants to cut into a woman is good… cleanliness for surgery is only necessary for men.

            I hope the GOP never declares war on me; otherwise the Democrats might be ok with me dying in an unclean unmonitored medical procedure too.

          • Ginger Whetstine

            Don’t worry, Obamacare will include you. Then they can start “aborting conservatives”.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Like the little girl that needed the lung transplant that Sebelius wouldn’t approve?

          • Leo Gessford Jr.

            yea, thats working out real well for her right now…

          • plumberskid

            Because they know that the butchers who perform these “medical procedures” are only in it for the money, and would never spend a penny more than necessary to keep their slaughterhouses running. If they were forced to maintain their “medical offices” the way that real doctors have to, they would quit in a New York minute.

        • annoyinglittletwerp

          The murder mills should be shut down.

        • TEXANONLY

          You do mean where you go to murder your baby, you support murder, may god have mercy on your soul, you will need it.

          • Leo Gessford Jr.

            Well, there is no god.. so I guess theres no problem. Most of the people talking in this thread should have been aborted themselves.

        • carolina mama

          You would rather that women take the risk of dying? Or being exposed to STDs such as AIDS because proper sterile procedures relating to surgeries are being ignored?

          Do you believe that women are worth so little, Lorena?

          I’m sure women all across this nation are grateful to you and those like you. /sarc

        • sybilll

          No Lorena. It just means that the ghouls would have to drive a couple hundred miles…….to kill their babies. It’s not like they have anything better to do, right?

        • right_on

          A woman with half a brain would use some method of BC instead of putting themselves though the heinous act of killing their bloodline. Then again, even considering the procedure more than once proves they would make poor mothers in the long run. Forced tubal ligation for repeat offenders should be mandatory…then, they can h**p away at will. Everybody wins…well, except PP.

        • http://whatandever.blogspot.com/ Osumashi Kinyobe

          Would it be because they are filthy and run by quacks?

        • gekkobear

          Precisely… sure we want surgery rooms to be clean, inspected, an maintained…

          Unless you’re simply cutting up a fetus; which shouldn’t even require a doctor. Requiring them to do a medical procedure under medical conditions is wrong.

          We should let the janitor do the next one… who cares, right?

          Why is requiring surgery done exclusively on women to be done in a surgical manner offensive to you?

          Is there some reason you think women don’t deserve proper medical care and clean environments when getting surgery performed?

        • mary kile

          You mean that most women in Texas have abortions AFTER 20 weeks? Please show me that statistic. No, hon, this isn’t about closing abortion clinics. It’s about the murder of viable babies at 20 weeks and beyond. Late term abortion is murder. Those babies can be felt moving in the womb. Some are sucking their fingers. They are alive and to kill them is unconscionable. Evenmoreso, it’s recognized as part of the decision in Roe vs. Wade. Read the summary -issues to the court #3: “Are there any circumstances where a state may enact laws prohibiting abortion?”

          Answer by the Court:Yes. Though a state cannot completely deny a woman the right to
          terminate her pregnancy, it has legitimate interests in protecting both
          the pregnant woman’s health and the potentiality of human life at
          various stages of pregnancy.”

          That’s where late term abortion needs to be balanced or denied -“the potentiality of human life at various stages of pregnancy.”

          Sincerely, after reading the description for the procedure for late term abortion, I find difficult to believe what woman could permit a viable, already alive, feeling baby to go through that type of torture.

        • Lilyputian

          This is simply not true. The bill expects the facilities to adhere to the same standards that have been expected of ambulatory surgical centers since 1985 (you know, where people have day surgeries and colonoscopies done). It also provides until September of 2014 before the new standards will be enforced. So, if they cannot afford to bring their clinics up to basic, humane standards expected of most people when they see a medical ‘professional’, in 14 months, they should be shut down. And those who scream they are just for ‘safe and rare’ abortions should be cheering this bill on. READ THE BILL, and stop listening to what the media whores tell you to think. Here’s the link:

          http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/831/billtext/pdf/SB00005I.pdf#navpanes=0

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Do you support dentists having to meet these same standards?

          • Lilyputian

            I support standards for clean and safe facilities for any place that is providing any fee for service to multiple people where germs and infections can be spread. But I sincerely doubt 800 people would show up to protest passing such expectations for dental facilities, do you? My guess is that if such legislation was proposed for raising health standards for dentists, everyone would be thrilled, if they even cared to notice.

        • 1SkepticalChick

          I call BS. All they have to do is come into compliance with the law. it is not an impossible goal. The law covers all bases for every foreseeable need. Proper medical care is essential for any medical procedure. if the clinics shut down it will be because they chose to, not because they were forced. Get a brain and stop spewing the garbage you’ve been fed. Better yet, keep spewing the garbage so there’s room for some actual knowledge.

        • LucyGirl2011

          Use Birth Control…no one cares about your sex life, we just don’t understand why you murder babies because you can’t be bothered with birth control…A condom is cheap…keep them in your purse or pockets…save a baby, by being responsible.

        • Ginger Whetstine

          Shutting all of them down would be a good start. Murder is wrong, and just because you cannot see the victim, and call it a different name, does not stop it from being murder.

        • Finrod Felagund

          Why do you hate women so much, that you would want them to go to an abortion clinic that doesn’t meet code?

        • mike_in_kosovo

          Why would it shut them down? Lack of customers pre-20 weeks?

        • tankdemon

          We understand that your disgust at Kermit Gosnell was all feigned. You death dealers keep claiming that you don’t want women subjected to back-alley procedures, but whenever anybody wants to ensure that actual medical standards are followed during the procedure, you scream like bloody banshees in protest.

    • Timothy Kennedy

      Texas should be proud of their Governor. Wish other states had such men running them.

    • right_on

      The party of infanticide on demand…the term “abortion” is passe. It would be nice to start calling it what it is..

      • Ginger Whetstine

        I use the word murder, that is what they are doing.

        • Bathing Suit Area

          Then why aren’t you out killing doctors who perform them?

          • Ginger Whetstine

            If you had 2 brain cells to rub together you would have understood I am against murder. Just going by your name, I realize that would be quite the stretch for you.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Sure, but if you saw someone about to commit a murder, would you be willing to use (or support someone who did use) deadly force in order to stop it? If you think abortion is murder, then why would you treat it differently?

    • mic777

      Boy you got that one right,they have no conscience,very sick people.They should be made to be shown the results of their work.

    • trixiewoobeans

      And let’s start calling them what they are, not Pro-Choice, but Pro-Kill.

  • William J. Miller

    Those UT hippies just may meet some real Texans this time.

    • TEXANONLY

      They will not venture out of austin,

      • Jeremy

        I think that just about all the liberals in Texas are in Austin.That city has some real nutters.

        • Charles Hammond Jr

          You’d be half right. They’re all in the bigger cities.

          • Lorena Garcia

            Charles, true, because most that live in cities are more educated than those in the rural areas. This is especially true in Texas.

          • Dragomance

            Yet somehow New York,wound up with Mike Bloomberg.Where all those educated people there?

          • James Atkins

            Can you link to some stats?

          • AbdullahtheButcher

            Probably an assumption based on colleges being in cities. What about the people who get good educations who go back to the rural areas? i suspect that Lefties who go to college come from and stay in the cities, while conservatives go back to their home areas or some other place where jobs are available, which is probably the rural areas.

          • Night Owl

            Of course not. They are famous for making assertions they can’t back up. Someone just said that some of the shrieking witches in the gallery thought abortion was being banned altogether int the state.

          • TEXANONLY

            You are one stupid lady.

          • Charles Hammond Jr

            Educated in what aspects? There’s a lot you can’t learn in a formal school and a lot that can’t be tested on towards a college degree.

            Then there’s a lot of things that are more well known in rural areas that are very important to society but also not well looked upon.

          • Night Owl

            Then why are so many of you leftists so dumb? Do those Hollywood types who buy ranches and move to Utah or Wyoming become stupid when they move? What is the literacy rate in Chicago? New York?

          • mike_in_kosovo

            Education =/= intelligence

            I would say “nice try”, but it really wasn’t.

          • alanstorm

            1. You present no evidence of such.

            2. You assume “educated” equals “intelligent”, which has never been true.

            3. Thanks for confirming that liberals are just nuts.

          • lainer51

            especially true in that vast wasteland of your head, too.

          • JP

            So…. The belief that murdering unborn children stems from a lack of education? Oh and by the way, that is a completely unfounded statistic. I guess where you went to school they forgot to explain the difference between fact and fiction.

        • Clete Torres

          San Antonio as well. Only thing saving that city is a military presence.

        • http://redstate.com/ midwestconservative

          They are the San Francisco of Texas. San Antonio is Oakland, and Houston is LA. In the future ( if Liberals have their way and Texas turns blue) Austin will be represented by several Pelosi’s in Congress. Ted Cruz will be replaced by a Diane Feinstein. I just hope I’m dead before I see it.

  • Damien Johnson

    Wait, first a baby’s a cancer, now a baby’s a pustule? Do you hear yourself?

    • kate_middleton

      And as one of the tweets above said, aborting your baby after 20 weeks is somehow a “woman’s constitutional right”. WTF?

      I am 28 weeks pregnant myself, and I am so thoroughly disgusted by this.

      • Damien Johnson

        Ha and yet they can’t point to “Abortion” in the constitution, or explain away the declaration of independence granting us the right to LIFE, and LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness, and that the pursuit of a selfish person’s happiness infringes on the unborn’s right to life and liberty.

        • GoneFishing

          They can’t explain away either why, when a pregnant woman is murdered, the murderer is charged with Fetal Homicide or Double Homicide.

        • Lorena Garcia

          Does the Constitution explicitly grant life to an unborn fetus, or just those that have already been born? I know the answer, but would just like to hear you refute yourself.

          • Damien Johnson

            It guarantees the right to life, period.

          • Guest

            The constitution also guarantees the freedom of religion. In other religions (or lack of one), life doesn’t begin until conception. Now, I’m not arguing for an 8-month abortion, but the standard 24 month abortion policy (with exceptions for medical emergencies) seems appropriate to me.

          • Night Owl

            Did you really mean to say life doesn’t begin until conception? You kind of undercut your own argument if you did.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Better start shutting down cemeteries then.

          • Damien Johnson

            I already see 55 million graves in the cemetery in my mind.

          • James Atkins

            Does the Constitution say the government can mandate the citizens buy something?

          • James Atkins

            Do you have children? If so, did you always refer to them as your unborn fetus when chatting with your liberal friends?

          • http://whatandever.blogspot.com/ Osumashi Kinyobe

            What is the vast difference between the unborn “fetus” and a child born prematurely?

            Who is setting the standards for human life? Apparently, biology just doesn’t cut it anymore.

          • Isa241

            @Lorena, what the constitution grants specifically to “persons
            born or naturalized in the United States”, is citizenship.
            The constitution ALSO grants the right to life to all “persons” but fails to define what qualifies as a “person”.

            Even Roe V Wade admits that if it could ever be proven that the unborn are persons then abortion would become illegal since it would violate the constitutional right to life of unborn human beings.

            Read and understand it before you try and use it in your
            debate.

      • nc

        God bless you and your baby!

        • kate_middleton

          Thank you so much! I cannot wait to meet him!

          • Lisa Dean

            Congratulations. Being a “Boy Mom” is a great experience. :-)

          • Damien Johnson

            since you love being a mother to boys, I have faith you won’t let them get assimilated into the left’s effeminization agenda.

          • Lisa Dean

            @damienjohnson:disqus – just one son but there won’t be any assimilating of my son by the left. Resistance isn’t futile and my husband and I would turn into Worf if that means protecting my son.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            LOL

      • mwill

        I’ve said this before on several threads. the earliest premature birth to survive was 22 weeks. my twin grandsons were born at 27 weeks. why does it take more then 12 weeks to figure out that you’re pregnant and to do something about it. this bill gives a woman 5 months. god bless you and your child.

        • kate_middleton

          I agree. I do not personally believe in abortion, but for those who want to get an abortion, it is not unreasonable that they be required to do that during the first 20 weeks.

          I saw a report on Bret Baier’s show and one person they interviewed said most of the people in the Texas gallery thought this banned all abortion.

      • CatHerder

        Bless you and your child, and best wishes for a speedy and easy delivery.

      • $30423294

        I know you know this, but the cockroach who downvoted your heartfelt comment is a registered DEMOCRAT.

        Yes I know, we wonder how these vermin find support in a civilized society.

        We need to be vigilant for these people. They are your neighbors, the teachers in your schools. They act like they are “humanists.” Make no mistake, they would slaughter your baby in a heartbeat.

        • Conservative Ohioan

          As a woman, nothing disgusts me more than the Democrat position that I am nothing more than a vessel in which to grow (and slaughter!) a baby. Dems believe I don’t think about anything other than how to kill my baby should I be so unfortunate as to have conceived one.

          And there’s a Republican “War on Women.”

          • carolina mama

            Well, they want to “save” you from being “punished” with a baby, you know.

          • GoneFishing

            Barack Obama, March 2008 — “I’ve got two daughters, 9 years old and 6 years old. I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”
            A memorable and disgusting comment.

        • Damien Johnson

          Humanism is worship of the self, inherently a Luciferian doctrine.

        • Timothy Kennedy

          They don’t just “act like ‘humanists’…they are. Trying to reach these ‘mental giants’, when they state that ‘There is no absolute truth’ (BTW an absolute statement). How can you debate with people whose minds work like that?

      • Damien Johnson

        I’d also like to add may God bless your baby and you.

    • ogama843

      I was told earlier today on twitter that children in utero are “parasites”. Disgusting.

      • Damien Johnson

        Sadly I’m not surprised because I was told that in the comments of that “Happy Anniversary, Baby” video with Mechad Brooks, and I was also told that removing a baby is like removing a cancer.

  • TEXANONLY

    Abortion is murder.

    • nc

      It’s the War on Babies.

  • Steve_J

    Perhaps some of the pro abortion people can experience the same terrible pain that is inflicted on the unborn during an abortion.

  • Billie Slash

    Some of these women’s comments are so nasty and self-serving, which is the antithesis of motherhood. Sadly, its best for them not to pro-create.

    • GoneFishing

      Yeah, but those women still want you to pay for their rubbers and RU-486. It’s the liberal way.

    • $30423294

      Let not your heart be troubled.

      The children who survive the wombs of those loathsome women will turn on them.

      A child has a way of knowing that its mother is a shriveled hag. The little girl or boy follows the natural course of development and eventually turns on the witch.

      Helpful hint: when you waste your life advocating for the slaughter of infants, the surviving ones tend to despise you. And they want payback.

  • http://www.robjonesforpresident.com/ Rob Jones

    So the bill didn’t pass, not because the votes weren’t there, but because a mob screamed so loud the legislature couldn’t conduct their business.

    Texas doesn’t allow mob rule. We elected the people who were about to vote for some sensible regulations of the abortion industry… and all the mob did was cause us to waste dollars having a special session.

    Good for Perry for not allowing the mob to over-rule those elected to represent their districts.

    • GrindingMills

      I think the bill didn’t pass because Wendy Davis filibustered it. I’m going to go on a limb and say she’ll probably filibuster it until she loses her voice or has to go to the restroom, whatever comes first. We all love the filibuster when it goes our way (see Paul, Rand), but it really sucks to be on the receiving end of it.

      • http://www.robjonesforpresident.com/ Rob Jones

        Nope, the filibuster got shut down with about an hour to go. Then there was a little parliamentary bs that was poorly handled up where the gavel resides, then when they finally got to a vote… the gallery went to shouting and screaming so loud nobody could hear anything.

        I watched the live feed. The vote would have passed in time had the vote been conducted. Dewhurst and Duncan dropped the ball up at the gavel end. You don’t put your 2nd stringer on the gavel in a crucial session and whoever stands there better know parliamentary procedure cold.

        The session was a mismanaged mob fiasco, but they DID manage to curtail the filibuster, and that pissed off the mob. Problem is, votes in the Senate are to be decided by those elected to do so, not mobs trucked in to disrupt the process..

        • Lisa Dean

          I’m curious why those in the gallery weren’t escorted out?

          • TJ

            One would think they did not have enough police/security to do it peacefully. It was not just a few people but the whole gallery and the whole rotunda was full of pro-Wendy people. The crowd was not a problem until the 10 minutes till midnight and the filibuster was busted.

          • Lisa Dean

            Thanks for clarifying @Tjexcite:disqus

          • http://www.robjonesforpresident.com/ Rob Jones

            When they tried at least one of them was arrested for slugging an officer.

          • Vennoye

            Yeah, that is what others are wondering too!!

          • R_Pipkin

            It’s pretty simple: The galley wasn’t cleared hours earlier when it should have been because Lt. Gov David Dewhurst is a political coward…

          • CatHerder

            Or an imbecile, the jury is still out on that.

        • annoyinglittletwerp

          Duncan’s my senator. Come the 2014 primaries-we can…and WILL replace him with a competent conservative.

        • ozconservative

          Only liberals would think that a bunch of hairy-armpitted, ugly-a$$ed femmenazis could be “the public” in the public gallery.

      • TJ

        If the mob did not do a mob filibuster it would have easily passed with 10 minutes to go before midnight.

    • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

      I think he should have the National Guard and/or Army Reserve to keep the protesters out, so the State of Texas can DO IT’S BUSINESS! #RightWard Jawamax 8<{D}

      • Elaine

        Amen. Let the political process work as it should. Liberal bullying didn’t work in WI and it won’t work here!

  • mickeyco

    Did you notice how many of the nasty tweets are from men? They’re screaming about a male governor “interfering” with women’s rights. Don’t they see that’s strange?

    • Damien Johnson

      translation; their rights to skip out on being deadbeat dads since the child won’t be alive for them to be a deadbeat dad.

    • C-Saw

      I’m beginning to wonder about a few of my male friends on FB whining like a bunch of 16 year old girls ..

      • nc

        Sounds like you might want to enlarge your circle of friends.

      • Charles Hammond Jr

        You need to find new friends.

        ‘Friends’ who don’t share your ideals or your best interests are not friends by definition.

  • likeablaze

    More christian laws from people who do nothing of substance to promote liberty.

    • GoneFishing

      Murder is illegal whether your religious or not. Abortion is just a fancy name for murder.

    • NCRelite

      It’s a scientific fact that life begins at conception, human life, and they should be afforded all of the protections the constitution provides.

      • likeablaze

        Supreme Court and A LOT people(including scientists) disagree.

        • GoneFishing

          Are those cells multiplying or not (rhetorical question)? Last I checked, growth means life, dead cells don’t multiply.

        • Conservative Ohioan

          A dead bacterium on Mars constitutes “life”, but millions of cells reproducing inside a woman’s uterus does not?

    • operanerd1986

      There actually are pro-life atheists and agnostics. They even have their own website, http://secularprolife.org/. They are pro-life because they know that abortion kills a living human being.

      • likeablaze

        OVERWHELMINGLY from christian conservatives. Nice try.

        • Conservative Ohioan

          Why do you celebrate ending life so?

          You’d probably mourn the ending of a life of an animal or tree; why do you cheer when human lives are ended?

    • James Atkins

      Why would you be against showing a mother, who is about to abort a child, an ultra-sound of said child. What on earth would be so vile and evil about that? You pro-choice “people” seem to value a baby seal much more than a baby human.

      • likeablaze

        Keep on trying to force women by law to do you want. Very christian conservative of you.

        • GoneFishing

          Evading the question?

          • CatHerder

            Yes.

        • James Atkins

          I think you are confused with how things are done in Muslim countries.

          Curious, do you have children?

        • annoyinglittletwerp

          There are Jewish pro-life groups too. Infanticide is not a Jewish value.

        • GoneFishing

          Come on. Besides quoting bumper stickers, you must have an opinion. Enlighten us. Why do you think snuffing out a human life is OK? How would the fetus choose? Why might your parents not have chosen to kill you in the womb? Inquiring thinkers would like to know.

    • Timothy Kennedy

      It’s not about “Christian laws”….you demonstrate your complete ignorance by your comment. Basically, you are saying that the government has no right to legislate ‘morality’, but you have no problem them legislating ‘immorality’. Those that pushed and continue to push for ‘abortion at will’ are pushing their version of ‘morality’ on society. Those that oppose them are pushing back for their beliefs, and their beliefs dictate standing up for the most innocent and helpless.

    • Garth Haycock

      Last I checked, it’s the regressives who do nothing. There sure aren’t any conservatives that are demanding that others pay for what they want.

      • likeablaze

        Nope. They quietly accept it and do nothing to change it.

        • CatHerder

          Swing and a miss. Prove it.

    • jb

      strange…. it is only a christian law???? the stoopid really does run deep in you.

    • annoyinglittletwerp

      I’m not Christian-I’m a JEWISH woman…in Texas. I do NOT support abortion!

      • likeablaze

        You are the 1% :)

        • GoneFishing

          That would make you 99% excrement. You should be proud.

      • nc

        And I’m a Jewish woman from California who also does not support abortion. We are not the only ones!

        • annoyinglittletwerp

          We need to shout it loud-and shout it proud!

    • gekkobear

      Right, we should use the law, and science.

      Like Roe v Wade…
      http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Roe_v._Wade.html

      It protects any abortion before the child is viable… and it defines viable clearly; which is useful for us.

      ‘The Roe decision defined “viable” as being “potentially able to live outside the mother’s womb, albeit with artificial aid,”‘

      We have fetuses delivered and surviving outside the mother with artificial aid between 21 and 22 weeks of development… so 22 weeks is clearly “potentially able to live”. 21 weeks also seems “potentially able to live”.

      Your argument is only over this being 20 weeks and not 21 weeks? Or does the law all of a sudden not matter at all and that ruling isn’t meaningful?

      Well, we’ve got Supreme Court Ruling, Medical Science, and religion now… do you have something else you’d care to use to justify killing a viable fetus?

  • Randy Deabay

    It is so sad to see so many violent-hateful people out there. To think we actually allow them to be in the general society. They are murderers of the innocent that cannot defend themselves-and believe in pro-choice for a woman who is just 1/3 of the equation-while believing government should control where you work, what you eat, and what kind of insurance you should have-and no choice-it is truly amazing….Liberals are quite ignorant to say the least…..

  • C-Saw

    I’m not really up on the whole abortion thing .. other than medical reasons, what would be the need/want/purpose of having an abortion after 20 weeks ?? I would think that is ample time to decide if you want the child or not. I’m not trying to be a dope, I just want to know.

    • Lisa Dean

      I’m thinking poor planning on their part – in more ways than one.

    • C. D.

      Actually, it’s been proven time after time that there are VERY FEW (read – none) medical reasons that would necessitate an abortion. It’s one of the lies in the pro-babymurderer’s ‘arsenal’.

    • BAW

      It’s actually a very valid argument that women should be capable of and required to make the decision before the health risks for her increase and before the child is at or near viability. In my opinion, if she can’t then the decision should be taken out of her hands.

      Therapeutic abortions have always and will always be legal (even after 20 weeks) when performed for genuine medical reasons but those are are done in hospitals, not abortion clinics. They’re done by OB/GYN’s not abortion doctors.

  • RblDiver

    Well, he may have the “intellectual development of an 8-year-old”, but you have the emotional development of a 2 year old with your tantrum-throwing!

  • Dan L

    Get nasty? They’ve been nasty for a long time.

    • BAW

      Which I think should make the “pro-choice” people who think abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare” realize that they are on the same side as people who protect the Gosnells of the world.

      • Conservative Ohioan

        Except that most of them have no idea who Kermit Gosnell is.

        I don’t think most pro-abortionists REALLY think about what they are condoning: the brutal murder of an innocent child. If they just think of it as the ending of an inconvenience, their tiny consciences aren’t troubled, and they can go on hating conservatives who just love those nasty babies.

      • Dan L

        PP YTD ~330K abortions, ~30K health procedures, <200 referrals for adoption services. Rampantly killing unborn babies and screaming against any restrictions doesn't seem to translate into "safe, legal, and rare".

        • BAW

          Exactly, abortion is the furthest thing from safe, legal and rare. And that is why the left, along with their willing accomplices in the press tried desperately to downplay the Gosnell tragedy. They only tell the positive side of “choice” and ignore the sad reality of the lives destroyed. If the majority of people who support their lies knew the truth, they would be left with the fringe 20% or less of crazies still screaming it’s all about “women’s rights.” Which we know it is not.

  • DearLeaderObamba

    Get this thing passed. all pro-life groups whoever you can should make that happen

    • Don Truscott

      Liberals are so pathetic !! I want to take a moment to tell every liberal …..”EAT SHIT”

  • $6883809

    So using the same logical progression as this “Women for Death” movement, it is morally proper for Klansmen (Democrats) to stand outside of a place of voting to keep people from voting against the Klansmen’s beliefs or New Black Panthers (Democrats) to do the same. Because they are “Citizens becoming actively involved in their Government?”

  • http://www.nleomf.org/officers/ FlatFoot

    Governor Perry can call as many 30-day extra sessions as he likes, but lawmakers can only take up those issues he assigns. Good luck, Texas!

    • maggiespat

      I want to vote this up a dozen times. Great picture.

  • TJ

    It should be the first bill brought up and passed in 20 minutes and after 18 points of order.

  • NCRelite

    the fact that we are winning this argument and changing hearts and minds is encouraging

    • nc

      And we don’t cheat or use massive propaganda like the libbies do, so it takes us much longer.

  • Ronny Nelson

    There sure are a lot of baby killers on this blog.

  • BAW

    One of many things the left does not understand is that Texas legislatures are part time citizen representatives, not professional politicians. They live and work among us (unlike the elites in DC) and actually represent what Texans believe. Whether we support “choice” or simply accept that abortions are legal Texans will not be bullied into looking the other way and let a Gosnell thrive in our state.

    If I got it right, all 19 Republicans voted for the bill but only 10 Democrats voted against. Don’t know yet why the other two didn’t (I’ll see if I can find out). There are still a few conservative Democrats in Texas. Most of us gave up and switched parties but not quite all yet.

  • Ronny Nelson

    All you baby killers are going to stand before Jesus Christ to be judged for your crimes.

  • Timothy Kennedy

    The hypocrites are out and they are as loonier than ever. The culture of Death and it’s followers would prefer that Governor Perry be silent. But I have another idea, Governor…these mooks want death on demand…suggest that since they want that, Texas will start with them.

  • Sal

    Yes folks it takes a complete imbecile to run the second largest state in the Union for 13 years, but a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER can be President!

    • nc

      I admit that last year during the debates, knowing nothing about Gov. Perry previously, I thought he wasn’t too bright. But later, I heard interviews with him, not as a Pres candidate, but as a Governor, doing his job. He was a different person, so capable and confident. I won’t doubt his abilities again.

      • CatHerder

        He is in his proper place now, God bless. We here WANT him as our Governor, not as some time-serving puppet in DC.

        • Worship Dancer

          sadly tho the ENTIRE NATION NEEDS him to be serving WE THE PEOPLE in DC

      • Finrod Felagund

        He was taking pain medication for his back which made him a bit loopy at times. I wasn’t a supporter of his in the primaries, but I hate seeing lies spread about a good man.

  • $30423294

    I told you, this is much darker than their being mere leftists.

    This is an abject loathing of the concept of an infant.

    An infant requires these women to grow into mature adulthood.

    These women have never been equipped to do that.

    They wish to remain adolescents. The infant must be prohibited.

    They dress up as vaginas and circus clowns and condoms. To make a point? No. They are fundamentally disordered.

  • Marvin Nelson

    I love these hypocritical liberal nutjobs. We will back a law that we agree with. If we don’t like it, we will all get together and hold our collective breath until we turn blue. The legislature is working for the good of ALL citizens of Texas, a majority of whom support the legislation We are truly moving from a Constitutional Republic to a democracy. If you don’t know the difference, you might be a libtard.

  • WisconsinPatriot

    Ahhh, the sound of demons screaming. Music!

  • Spasmolytic

    This about sums it up.

    • Lisa Dean

      Sad but true

  • Bill Willetts

    Wow – this is getting nasty. Taking a moral stand always costs something. Just look at the declaration signers. I admire people who stick to their values in the face of adversity. That takes real guts and that is what we need right now.

  • $30423294

    Shorter democrat party: It’s not murder if we scream loud enough.

    So much blood on the hands of Ted Kennedy’s democrat party. So much blood.

  • Aldrin Cave

    hmmm… food for thought: the so called pro abortionist people could not and would not condone this single idea in their minds – “how about if their parents aborted them?”…

  • Damien Johnson

    As a male i don’t have a right to be against abortion. Does that change if i decide to become a male to female transsexual?

    • nc

      Only if you’re really cute.

      • Damien Johnson

        Alright, I LMAO’d.

        • nc

          Took you long enough; )

    • BAW

      As a woman, and mother of two sons, I beg to differ. Men should have rights and not just responsibilities. That’s a big part of the problem, IMHO.

      • Damien Johnson

        Exactly. It’s not fair that if I want to own up to my actions, I can be denied my right to be a father.

        • BAW

          But I can see how it would be difficult for any guy. I’ve been proud of my youngest son for going all in on Facebook. He’s ticked, Wendy Davis is his State Senator. There are real men in this world, responsible and mature and I appreciate you and every one who stands up for reasonable restrictions on abortions which protects women, the rights of the unborn, and yourselves.

          • Damien Johnson

            I suppose he’s been replying to people giving him hell for being male and pro-life. (yet, a pro-choice male is a non-issue) Me, I feel his pain. I’m Texas native, I live here in Texas. I thought we were the sane state. This is why I didn’t want California to fall into the ocean. I don’t want any of those pro-abortion assholes here. It looks like we got them anyway whether California falls into the ocean or not. And thank you. We appreciate you for appreciating us. Women, that have a man against abortion’s back, against a crazy world where this is somehow a bad thing.

        • Bathing Suit Area

          Your right to be a father is not infringed in the slightest, you just have to find someone who wants to have your child.

          • Damien Johnson

            you’re a idiotic person. a woman should not have the final say in killing off my child, period. i.should not have a say in killing off my child, period. if just one person says no abortion, then no abortion , PERIOD.

    • Worship Dancer

      as a male if the child is YOURS YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE AGAINST IT BEING ABORTED.

      • Damien Johnson

        Exactly. It would be wrong to try to force a woman set on getting an abortion to not have one (but I’d still express disapproval), but I definitely should have a say if the child is mine.

        • Bathing Suit Area

          You get a say if the uterus is yours.

  • Jennifer Lambert

    You can those who hate Perry are people of GOD…

  • Aldrin Cave

    Props to Governor Perry for putting up a special session for Texas Congress to decide on SB 5 aka Abortion Bill…

    hmmm… food for thought: the so called pro abortionist people could
    not and would not condone this single idea in their minds – “how about
    if their parents aborted them?”…

    • BAW

      Apparently they just blow it off and say if they’d been aborted, they wouldn’t even know. If they were mothers perhaps they’d think about their children but maybe not.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        How about if their parents had never had sex! They wouldn’t exist! OMG, NOT HAVING SEX IS MURDER! BAN ABSTINENCE IMMEDIATELY!

  • Jennifer Lambert

    Wow, prayer for the salvation of souls of pro-aborts so necessary. I’m on it.

    • Bathing Suit Area

      *Phew*

      Relax guys, Jen’s on it.

  • Robin Rountree

    Im about as sick of hearing “war on women” as I am “racest”

    • Jerrid Haywood

      *Racist

    • Bathing Suit Area

      So stop waging war on women or being racist then?

  • BAW

    I recently heard/saw a comment about maturity coming not with age but with responsibility.

    It’s true. I’ve known mature, responsible children and old, irresponsible adults. Sadly, irresponsible adults are dangerous. The left proves it every day.

    • Damien Johnson

      but the liberal adults are still children.

      • BAW

        That has been my conclusion. They are irresponsible, immature, and prone to temper tantrums. They lie, deny, blame others and claim mistakes are all “on accident.” But as with children they do have a sense of what’s fair, they just think as children that it’s only important when applied to them. The difficulty is coming up with the proper way to handle misbehaving children when they’re adults. As a parent and a teacher I always dealt with them individually, what works with one doesn’t always work with another and I had to be creative. But dealing with a large group, that’s a whole new challenge.

  • annoyinglittletwerp

    My state senator- Robert Duncan(R)-had a part in prolonging the ‘discussion’ last night. While I’m thrilled that Perry has called for another special session-supposed conservatives like Duncan and Joe Strauss need to pay the piper in the 2014 primaries.

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    Are any of these commentators human? Seriously… I feel as if I’m reading something written by demonspawn….

    • Charles Hammond Jr

      The whole world does seem to have gone batsh!t crazy.

    • Grandma HeadInjury

      You may be on to something. They have let go of absolute truth. They make their own morality. They are dead inside. Pretty much the same thing.

  • Herman LaClair

    if there is any doubt about liberalism being a mental disorder, the above tweets should remove all of it.

  • David Hamm

    Thanks Rick

  • Jerrid Haywood

    I feel sorry for the women of Texas. Abortion is a terrible thing & the vast majority of women they have the procedure done, are not proud of themselves or out having sex the next minute. Its an emotionally scarring experience. Reducing access to a product, service, procedure, etc. That people want has rarely worked as intended and usually done more harm than good. Everyones tax dollars goes somewhere they dont agree with like inefficient military spending but democracy is suppose to be about the greatest good for the greatest number. Is adding potentially millions of unwanted and unloved children to an underfunded and over burdened foster-care/adoption system really in the best interests of these potential children? Is it fair to the mother and father who have no other alternatives? You shouldnt assume that because they are in a financially weak position, that they are bad people. The recession should have taught us all that anyone can struggle. Forcing a child into someone elses life isnt going to help them financially and will probably lead to a life of poverty and strife for that child. We all know there are exceptions to every rule but those are exactly that, exceptions. Most of these kids wont have a happy childhood and will cost the state more money to feed, cloth, & take care of them. Not to mention the added strain on an already underfunded public education system. Nobody wants to look at abortion as a necessary evil in society (because its not, just like farmworkers who pick fruit arnt paid min wage because people dont want to pay for it) but have you stopped to consider the consequences of limiting access to something statistics show 1 in 3 women will have by 45? Im not happy with that statistic but its a fact. It can be changed however through proper education of preteens, teens, and young adults. This is not to say im encouraging people to have sex before marriage, but there is NOTHING wrong with being educated about a subject. I know how to dunk, cook great food, educate people, swim, drive, save lives (CPR) etc. and they all make me happy and feel great but that doesnt mean i do this stuff everyday. Education about a subject or topic is no guarantee that you will ever use that education but its still good to have just in case. Hopefully Texas will take further steps to educate men and women about intercourse after this bill passes into law.

    • Finrod Felagund

      If they don’t want a child, they shouldn’t have sex. They made their choice before they got pregnant.

      • Jerrid Haywood

        Rape and Incest aside, Im not saying they didnt but things beyond your control change. A lot of hardworking good people lost their jobs in the recession and didnt find work again for years. How do you justify adding another mouth to feed to your family if you can barely feed the family you have now?

        • AwakenNow

          Then the woman has up to 5 months to get an abortion.

          • Jerrid Haywood

            Amniocentesis cannot be done until 15-17 weeks pregnancy to pregnancy obviously and some tests take 2 weeks not accounting for delays and human error. If everything goes as according to plan, that leaves a potential new mother who just found out her baby may have a fatal genetic disease less than a week to decide what to do (hope for the best, re-test which could take another 2 weeks AFTER she gets into the office for a re-test, or abort right away). Seems kinda cruel to the mother. Especially if she wants the baby but couldnt care for a child with a terminal or chronic illness. If it turns out to be human error and she gets the abortion because she didnt have enough to get the second opinion, is that just too bad for her and the baby?

          • Worship Dancer

            so you think YOU have the right to determine that a baby MIGHT die so you can just MURDER him or her to do what? save what? definitely not save the baby’s life. and it is NOT to save the MOTHER’S life.

          • mike_in_kosovo

            that leaves a potential new mother who just found out her baby may have a fatal genetic disease less than a week to decide what to do

            No it doesn’t. Current Texas law states:
            b) Subsection (a) does not prohibit a person from
            performing an abortion if at the time of the abortion the person is
            a physician and concludes in good faith according to the
            physician’s best medical judgment that:
            (1) the fetus is not a viable fetus and the pregnancy
            is not in the third trimester;
            (2) the abortion is necessary to prevent the death or a
            substantial risk of serious impairment to the physical or mental
            health of the woman; or
            (3) the fetus has a severe and irreversible
            abnormality, identified by reliable diagnostic procedures.

        • Worship Dancer

          how about ADOPTION OR EVEN BIRTH CONTROL? and no abortion should NEVER be used for birth control.

        • Peter Wass

          Incest is a B.S. reason. It was still a choice. As for the other, why draw the line. If redundancy entitles you to kill off your offspring then why not the post natal ones as well.

        • TEXANONLY

          MURDER, burn in hell is what that will get ya, no excuse for murder

        • Finrod Felagund

          There’s this thing that’s been around for many centuries now called adoption.

    • AwakenNow

      Under the Texas Bill a woman has 20 weeks (5 months) to CHOOSE. The bill also requires clinics to be safe and clean and the doctor to be reputable and licensed.

    • wwbdinct

      Dude – no one wants to read a dissertation. Make it short and sweet next time K?

  • JOYCE PETERSON

    YOU CALL THIS AMERICA, THAT ONCE WAS A CHRISTIAN NATION. SHAME ON EVERYONE OF YOU FOR NASTY COMMENTS, EVIL COMMENTS. HOW COULD ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND KILL A PRECIOUS BABY????? THE DEVIL IS DANCING WITH YOUR COMMENTS. APPARENTLY NO CHRISTIANS ON THIS POST, MY HOLY BIBLE SAYS THO SHALL NOT KILL… PRESIDENT DOESN’T SET A GOOD EXAMPLE EITHER, HE AND THE DEVIL ARE BEST OF FRIENDS

    • Jerrid Haywood

      The constitution specifically prohibits America from being a christian nation. Just saying.

      • Finrod Felagund

        No, it prevents an establishment of religion, in other words there will never be a Church of the United States like there is a Church of England. It also guarantees free exercise of religion.

        Try reading the Constitution sometime, you might learn something.

        • Jerrid Haywood

          You just said the same thing in a broader sense. Separation of church and state along with freedom of religion means America cant have laws that infringe on ones religion within reason and religions cannot be a basis of policy making. ALSO, you have the right to BELIEVE what you want in religion, NOT exercise it as the courts have ruled already like choosing not to take your sick child to a doctor or hospital because is against your religion. Just like the right to bear arms is not specific to owning guns, only weapons since brothers in arms also refers to swords, axes, or anyone using a weapon. An arm is a weapon, not necessarily a gun.

          • Finrod Felagund

            No, I didn’t. The Constitution says what it says for a reason. “Establishment of religion” has a very specific meaning, try reading the definition of ‘establishmentarianism’ in the dictionary. It does not say that religion cannot be a basis of policy-making like you claim. It only says there cannot be a Church of the United States.

            It also does not say ‘separation of church and state’– that was in the constitution of the USSR, but not the United States.

          • JMC

            Thomas Jefferson used the words “separation of church and state” in a letter he wrote to Danbury Baptist Church in response to a letter he had received from them. The church had expressed concerns that the 1st Amendment’s “free exercise of religion” was presented as a government-given privilege rather than a God-given right and could therefore be revoked. Jefferson assured them that that wasn’t the case.

            Here’s what he wrote:
            “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God; that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship; that the legislative powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I
            contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a WALL OF SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties. I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and Creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association assurance of my high respect and esteem.”

          • therantinggeek

            +1

          • Finrod Felagund

            Except that Thomas Jefferson wasn’t part of the First Congress that debated and passed the Bill of Rights; he was our Ambassador to France so he wasn’t even in the country at the time. The fact that he thought it was a ‘wall of separation’ after the fact doesn’t carry any more weight than your opinion or my opinion.

          • GoneFishing

            Jerrid, you me show those words “Separation of Church and State” in the U.S. Constitution or Amendments, and I’ll give you a big golden star for discovering what scholars, judges and law-makers haven’t found.

            Also, the founding fathers were pretty clear about the right to bear arms in the “Federalist Papers”. Arms were defined as up to and including any modern army’s COMMONLY issued weapons(tanks, RPGs and nuclear weapons are not commonly issued), so that we would have a fighting chance against an eventual tyrannical government and reclaim it.
            You need to read and understand our founding documents.

          • therantinggeek

            Like Finrod said, try reading the Constitution sometime. Pay close attention to the actual wording of the First Amendment:

            “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

            And apparently you seem to believe that the courts should legislate from the bench, based on your statement of having “ALSO, you have the right to BELIEVE what you want in religion, NOT exercise it as the courts have ruled already”. Ever hear of the system of checks-and-balances?

            Oh, and for your statement of “the right to bear arms is not specific to owning guns; only weapons…also refers to swords, axes, or anyone with a weapon”? Quit watching Piers Morgan. He’s nothing more than a fop, if you ask me.

      • TEXANONLY

        No it does not you idiot pos.

  • AwakenNow

    To read Texas SB 5 Bill here is the analysis (8 pages) link: http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/831/analysis/pdf/SB00005S.pdf#navpanes=0

  • Christian Burgwald

    I seen pictures of 20 week fetus ( baby) . Why would a woman wait so long to decide? At this time it clearly has a brain and can feel pain. I guess the billion dollar baby killing business is the only thing alive and well.

  • Lorena Garcia

    It still won’t pass.

    • Grandma HeadInjury

      Maybe if people with a conscience get in the gallery before the loud preschoolers do…

    • TEXANONLY

      Watch it pass

    • fergalf

      The tide is turning Lorena.

  • Gallatin

    Chris Ziegler ✔
    @zpower
    let’s talk about rick perry: why is a man
    with the emotional and intellectual development of an 8-year-old in
    charge of an entire state?

    “let’s talk about barack obama: why is a man with the emotional and intellectual development of an 8 year-old in charge of an entire country?

    Fixed it for your chris.

    • Worship Dancer

      haha except i don’t think obama has the emotional and intellectual development of an 8 year-old – 4 year old perhaps but 8? nope.

  • DearLeaderObamba

    You dont have to believe in God to know its disgusting to be proud of killing a 5 month old baby

  • Damien Johnson

    A man is not allowed to have an opinion against abortion. He’s allowed to have an opinion for it, just not against it. The metric for this is that it’s not the man’s body so he doesn’t get a say. The man will never have a baby so he cannot possibly be afforded the right to be morally outraged at the thought of killing a child. Yet, a man will also never have an abortion. Yet, Abortion is inherently a more invasive procedure to a woman’s body than natural childbirth ever will be. That a man can be for invading a woman’s body and causing her psychological and physical damage is not sexist, but a man can’t be against all of this as well as killing off a child or he is a sexist, just does not compute.

    • Spasmolytic

      Men have reproductive responsibilities while women have reproductive rights.

      • Damien Johnson

        exactly. I stole this from somewhere else.

    • Bathing Suit Area

      “Yet, Abortion is inherently a more invasive procedure to a woman’s body than natural childbirth ever will be.”
      You looked up the maternal mortality rates on those, right?

  • Grandma HeadInjury

    Pro-life groups better fill that hall this time and make sure the screechers have no space….

  • Guest

    Feminists need to understand something: If I impregnate a woman I have a responsibility to accept fatherhood. Its unfortunate that so many other men don’t feel the same way. That responsibility also exists for women which supersedes their right to choose. And to all the feminists who tell me that because I’m a man I have no say in the matter, they need to realize that they can’t reproduce without us. Therefore this very much concerns me.

    • Damien Johnson

      They’ll say they can because of IVF. Even though the sperm still came from a man.

  • James A. Lonon

    These pro abortion people are the absolute dregs of the human race! Happy they will go to hell, but, even hell is too light a sentence for their crimes.

  • James A. Lonon

    If I ever get ahold of an abortionist “doctor” I will remove his or hers hands from their bodies so they can never kill again!

    • BAW

      I’m hoping that the requirement that they have admitting privileges at a hospital will eliminate the worst of them. The Gosnell types who shouldn’t be doctors at all. The ones you’d want to hurt.

  • David

    Thank you Governor Perry for standing up to the radicals and their kill as many babies as we can now crowd led by president obama.

  • JR48

    IF the citizens of the state of Texas want to restrict abortion to 20 weeks, they can do so.

    I just read the text of the bill and see that they are also including standards for abortion clinics, treating them like outpatient surgical centers, which imho they should have ALWAYS been treated like that. Medical standards are medical standards, and shouldn’t be given short shift because the procedure in question is controversial. They’re also giving women protections (read ‘standards’) for the use of drugs like RU486, which also is completely appropriate. No woman should be given a drug like that without access to 24/7 medical care, in the even of a complication.

    • TitzyFritzensimmons

      Good on Rick Perry! Twenty weeks is FIVE MONTHS OLD, and the provisions regarding the clinics will, one would hope, prevent the butcher shops of a Kermit Gosnell.

      • BAW

        The left is wailing that the requirement will close all but 5 abortion clinics in Texas (I think we currently have 42). I assume that means 5 already meet the standards and the rest will only close if they refuse to spend the money to bring them into compliance. While the thing about being located within 30 miles of a hospital is very reasonable. Any area in Texas that has enough people to need its own abortion clinic has enough people to have a hospital within 30 miles too.

        • Bathing Suit Area

          I’m sure you’ve actually gone and studied a population map of Texas along with the locations of hospitals to back that up…

          • BAW

            No need. I’ve just lived here for about 50 years. Moved around some, had family and friends from Beaumont to El Paso and know my state. But even someone without an intimate knowledge of Texas should be able to exercise a little common sense. Unless of course, the are blinded by prejudice.

  • hashimoto

    A politician with balls….very rare these days

  • DearLeaderObamba

    No screwups this time. make it happen

    • BAW

      I don’t think it was a screw up exactly. They might have been able to get it done before midnight but Wendy actually prevented a couple of other special session items from coming up for a vote too. While the left’s disrespect and unruly display is actually a good thing, if not everywhere, here in Texas.

  • digitalPimple

    #FailMom

  • Sonya A. Willis

    Some “female thing” last night on Twitter actually called a baby a parasite that feeds off the mother giving nothing back! Honestly what can you say to a thought process like that?

    • therantinggeek

      Was there even a rational thought process to begin with?

  • CobraJet428

    wOW !!! Some really deep thinkers, eh? Guess you’ve got distract from the fact their patron saint, margaret sanger, said, “We don’t want the word to get out we want to eliminate the negro population.”

    • BAW

      As I understand it, Sanger wasn’t actually pro-abortion she just planned to have all the Planned Parenthoods in minority communities to reduce the number of those she considered “undesirables” through birth control.

      • CobraJet428

        Yes, I agree with what you say. Sanger was more pro-eugenics and to achieve her goal of “ridding” the nation of the “Negro population” she pressed the abortion option, from what I’ve read.

        • BAW

          It’s a hallmark of the right that we do try to get it right. And can have a polite discussion in the process. At least it’s why I drifted from left to right over my lifetime because the truth, facts, reality are important to me.

          • CobraJet428

            That’s commendable and such a challenging endeavor these digital days. SEE:MSNBC. Reuters photoshops Palestinian attacks. I guess that’s why the Truth is so valuable…it’s hard to come by.

  • Johnny Price

    Note to the Pro-Choice movement: The unborn depend on us to stand up for the choice. Stand firm Gov. Perry.

  • ICOYAR

    Maybe this time they could ban rabid howler monkeys that call themselves “liberals” from storming the place this time.

    • Bathing Suit Area

      Yes, we should always make sure that politicians are kept safely away from their constituents.

  • Kenneth James Abbott

    The Left stands with Wendy–Texas stood for the children.

  • tony30088

    Good. Next time there should be a way to stop this type disruptive behavior from the gallery of official State business. Charge them all with contempt of some kind.

    • BAW

      Or they can just sit back and watch while Wendy tries to filibuster for 30 days.

  • Guest

    To be fair…we’re all acting as if this filibuster was a completely unprecedented and disruptive event. I am pro-life, but politically, a party has every right to this and the GOP was counted for 360+ filibusters in congress the past 5 years.

    • tony30088

      Agree, but what disrupted the vote was from the gallery.

    • Finrod Felagund

      The US Congress doesn’t have statutory limits on how long their sessions can be, like the Texas Congress does. This was an attempt by liberals to run out the clock on the legislative session, but “Ha ha charade you are”, the governor can call another session.

    • BAW

      And during how many of those filibusters did the GOP have 400 radical activists (dumb question since there aren’t any radicals on the right we’d claim) come in to harass, attempt to intimidate and as a last resort prevent our elected officials from voting? There is overwhelming support for the bill. It’s a little different when national Democrats keep passing or trying to pass things against the will of the people, Obamacare, gun control, “immigration reform” don’t you think? Seriously not trying to be argument but it does seem different to me. After Obama was elected the first time, it was a running joke that “conservatives were rioting” since it’s absolutely not something conservatives do. I like Greg Gutfeld’s line that the Tea Party is the sweetest, nicest, revolution in history. I’d add most polite and neatest too.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        The lack of Tea Party riots isn’t really surprising. What are they gonna do, beat you with their walking frames?

        • BAW

          Is this what passes for “humor” on the left? And walking “frame?” Where are you from? I’d call it a cane or a stick and have enough sense to know it can be a very effective weapon.

          • Bathing Suit Area
          • BAW

            BSA, I’m a little old woman fully aware of my lack of computer skills. Probably due to an admittedly overly developed sense of caution, I don’t click on random links. If there is something you wanted to share, you’ll have to spell it out.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            It was just an image search for walking frames, in lieu of explaining what they are.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            It was partially humor, partially pointing out that the lack of tea party riots is not necessarily and indication of civility.

            Lack of ability will prevent violence even more surely than lack of malice.

          • BAW

            Well besides not being funny, it’s not very smart. But that’s fine since underestimating your opponent always benefits the one underestimated. And that thought does make me smile.

    • mike_in_kosovo

      “and the GOP was counted for 360+ filibusters in congress the past 5 years.”

      No. Harry Reid immediately calling for cloture in order to prevent discussion on a bill =/= filibuster.

  • RebeccaLV

    Wait…since when was pro-abortion a thing? There’s a big difference between pro-choice and pro-murdering.

    • Night Owl

      It really is creepy to see the celebratory tweeting they were doing last night and today, until they were hit with this unfortunate (for them) turn of events.

    • LochGates44

      You’re fooling yourself if you don’t think many are pro-abortion.

    • CJWhodunit

      #ProLife #ProDeath

      Stupid euphemisms can’t disguise what is really happening to millions of unborn children in this county since Roe v. Wade.

      “Safe&Rare”??

      Why do pro-deathers STILL make that ludicrous claim?? :*(

      #GosnellTheButcher #TheMurderedGeneration

    • Cymbaline

      Since the beginning. Pro-Choice has always meant Pro-Abortion.

  • Richard Jefferies

    The aggressor sets the rules of engagement. I don’t want to hear any whining (Oh, I will anyway) when pro-gun activists act with same vile disrespect towards elected officials that you twits are now demonstrating is acceptable. Is this your “new tone” you fascist libs? As Dan Aykroyd once said, you are ” like a screeching, squealing, rapacious, swamp sows”.

  • Jessica

    This man should get an award for standing up for life. It must be hard considering all the #PissedatPerry hashtags floating around twitter.

    • Damien Johnson

      When you’re hated on by a pro-abort, you’re doing something right.

  • ToyZebra

    A judge can clear a courtroom if someone becomes unruly. There must be some actions available to keep mob rule from disrupting the legislature.

  • tenndoug911

    The haters on the oh so tolerant left display their sickness at the drop of a hat. They support that repugnant procedure that they would not subject a dog to and take the life of an innocent child, whereby we are all debased.

  • Wally West

    I hope they have better security for the unruly and uncivil liberal protesters that would undoubtedly be bus in again from other states.

    Maybe make them wait outside or something and watch them whine that they are being repress.

    • Bathing Suit Area

      Yeah, keep citizens away from the legislative process at all times, that’s what democracy is all about.

      • Wally West

        Screaming and yelling curses at people is not democracy when republicans pass bill you don’t like.

  • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

    I wonder how much they care about women who have had abortions also.

    Abortion has become a despicable industry in this country.

    • Damien Johnson

      it’s always about the pain women experience with an unwanted pregnancy, not the pain they experience having an abortion.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        Neither of those is great, so let’s let women choose for themselves.

        • GoneFishing

          Well, I hope you remember that when a robber makes the CHOICE to blow your head off in the commission of his crime.

  • 1SkepticalChick

    Keep it up Gov, you’re doing it right!

  • mlb29

    I wish a conservative had stepped up to “help” the filibuster yesterday and shown one example after another of what these people are fighting to protect…killing a baby at 6mos gestation. Show pictures, scientific evidence of what the baby has developed and what they suffer under an abortion and then show pictures from the Gosnell case. Nothing will shut these lunatics up quicker than hard cold reality.

    • Bathing Suit Area

      As long as it’s followed up by a slideshow of Savita Halappanavar dying and her decomposing corpse.

  • Mike Rogers

    Pro life need to start pulling some leftist thug tactics. A good start would be each protester buying a few lightweight jointed plastic baby dolls and at protests start to pull the dolls apart, dip the ends of the arms, legs and heads in ketchup/paint and toss.

    • Damien Johnson

      Remember when MSNBC started asking kids how they feel about gay marriage? I say we ask kids how would they like to be aborted.

  • Leo Gessford Jr.

    People need to keep their noses in their own f*ckin business. Women have the right to decide. Nobody else does. Rick Perry is an assclown. He obviously didnt get the hint when his first attempt went down in a ball of flames.

    • fergalf

      Do you support slavery too? Equality is greater then choice.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        Forcing someone to gestate an embryo/foetus and give birth is slavery.

        • fergalf

          Actually it is the principal of treating all citizens equally. Every wonder why the most extreme right wing are pro choice eg Hitler?

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Treating all citizens equally? So I can force people to use their bodies to keep me alive? Great, hand over a kidney.

          • fergalf

            You won’t die if you don’t get a kidney. Ever heard of dialysis?

            Anyway a foetus is a independent organism. It is against the principles of biology to claim it is the mother’s body.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Dialysis is a temporary, stop gap measure. It won’t keep you alive that long.

            The foetus is not independent at all. That’s the issue. If it were, we’d be happy to let them go their way while the mother goes hers.

          • fergalf

            People can live on dialysis as long as an average person, its usually the unhealthy that go prematurely.

            So based on that claim you should utterly oppose abortion after 21 weeks which is the stage when babies have been born alive?

      • Leo Gessford Jr.

        All women are equal. They all have the right, or, choice to abort.

        Whats with the slavery? What are you an airhead?

        • fergalf

          That is utterly illogical. What exactly magically happens at birth?

          Slavery was justified on the same principals as abortion. Through dehumanisation and the baloney ‘necessary evil’ argument.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            There’s no magic involved, birth is just the moment when the baby stops depending on the mother’s body.

          • fergalf

            Birth is utterly arbitrary. For 99.9% of human history the baby only stopped being dependent on the women’s body at 2-3 years after birth (after weaning). Even after that the child was dependent on its parents for 10+ years. Orphans always perish in the wild. Does that mean we have right to kill 5 year old kids?

          • Bathing Suit Area

            We’re not in the wild.

          • fergalf

            but birth is still utterly arbitrary.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            The difference between being pregnant and not is far more than arbitrary.

    • RememberSekhmet

      And when women decide on major surgery, where money overrides the doctor’s sense of ethics and patient care in another context, we fire up our web browsers and giggle at “plastic surgery disasters.” Michael Jackson chose what happened to his body, and found a doctor who would take the money, shut up, and dope him with propofol. He’s dead now. Not so funny.

      There is a reason a doctor is engaged in surgery, instead of a robot or vending machine. A doctor is trained in ethics and patient care, and should be willing to say, “no” when ethics and patient care dictate that the procedure demanded by the patient isn’t such a hot idea, or is beyond the physician’s skill to perform correctly.

    • therantinggeek

      Look up Margaret Sanger. Then get back to us.

      • Leo Gessford Jr.

        Yea, looked her up.. nothing special. Women still have their right to decide. Pro choice. Mind your own f*ckin business, like I said.

  • Deborah Barton-Schulz

    Why not prevent it in the first place! Abortion is not a birth control method

  • tjp77

    GO RICK PERRY!

  • FGCU_James

    OK, I’m asking a liberal here to answer me this (or anyone who feels like it):

    We have laws that protect baby sea turtles from being hurt/killed.

    We have laws that protect baby birds from being hurt/killed.

    We have laws that protect baby bears from being hurt/killed.

    We have all sorts of laws relating to various animals whose young we cannot hurt/kill.

    And yet, when we try to pass a law to protect human babies from being hurt/killed, we are apparently waging a “war on women”.

    No logic. Someone explain. Head in danger of exploding.

    • Ginger Whetstine

      << not a democrat but will try to explain they insanity.

      Babies don't vote democrat so babies don't matter.
      Dems love killing, they especially enjoy killing babies.
      Anything that gets between them and stuff they enjoy must be destroyed. For dems it really is all about them and their enjoyment.
      They don't have the mental capacity to plan ahead or prepare for anything, so condoms are forgotten.
      This means they can kill more babies.
      You can see baby turtles, sea otters, bears and the rest, they are cute, so dems save them.
      You cannot see the baby so they pretend it doesn't exist.
      Baby birds are only safe until a wind farm kills them.

    • BAW

      I’m not what passes for a liberal today, but I was a 60s lib, have talked to a lot of them about this and have tried very hard to understand what you correctly state makes no sense.

      Some Democrats are heavily invested in the abortion business. It is a big money making business and it supports Democrats with a lot of money. I suspect some Democrats who are radically pro-abortion either had an abortion or love someone who did. And I understand why men who don’t want to be held responsible are “pro-choice.” For some it’s just an easy political cause. And then there are the people like Gosnell who truly don’t see the unborn or the born as people or they don’t care or they’re evil.

      But I also believe that the majority of people who claim to be “pro-choice” actually believe the left’s lie that abortions should be “safe, legal, and rare.” It’s not the first nor the last time the left will lie, the press will help, and the issue is distorted to the point of seeming insanity.

    • Bathing Suit Area

      There is no law requiring you to let a sea turtle, bird, bear or any other animal live inside you. Should one end up there, you are well within your rights to remove it by whatever method you choose, and are not required to prolong the experience or endure more danger in order to protect the creature occupying your body.

      Glad to have helped with this explanation. Hope your head has remained intact.

      • FGCU_James

        Except for the part where it is physically impossible for a sea turtle/other animal baby to be produced from two humans doing the horizontal tango.

        I’m sure you’ll throw out some kind of “but what if it’s rape/incest” what-if scenario as a response to that, to which I say that it’s a huge gray area. I’m opposed to any unborn baby being killed off for whatever reason, but I can understand why a woman might want to.

        As for women who don’t use birth control/condoms when having sex and then abort the results of their indiscretions, it sickens me. Having sex, making love, is cheapened into an entirely physical act, and the result of said act (a living human being) is then killed because a baby would not be “good” for that woman’s life.

        You never really answered the underlying question, which was this (in case you missed it): if we have so many laws protecting the sanctity of animal life (hell, we even consider single-cell organisms alive), why is it that considering a human fetus alive, and wanting to protect said life, is a “war on women”?

        • Bathing Suit Area

          The laws to protect animals do not require anyone to house animals inside themselves, allow the animals to take nutrients from their bodies, or undergo painful and potentially dangerous procedures in order to save the animals.

          Laws “protecting” fetuses do demand these things of women.

          • FGCU_James

            Heartless.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Yes, forcing a woman to continue a pregnancy and give birth against her will is heartless.

          • FGCU_James

            Bless your heart, are you not thinking of the unborn child in all of this?

            You can call it a fetus all you want, that doesn’t change the simple scientific fact that this is a human baby we’re talking about, and that you apparently believe it’s heartless to not allow a woman to intentionally kill off said child by having it literally ripped, piece by piece, from her womb from some quack pretending to be a doctor.

            That’s heartlessness. That’s a real war on women. How many do you think have been thrown away with medical waste, aborted because they were considered nuisances to the “woman” carrying the child?

            Get real, you’re not living in reality.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Yes, forcing a woman to continue a pregnancy and give birth against her will is heartless.

  • BAW

    Perry’s not a hero. He’s just a reasonable astute politician. Texans support this and don’t take being bullied well at all.

    It’s not something the pro-abortion press would want anyone to know but Texas Democrats are not all like Wendy Davis. Five Democrats in the House of Representatives voted for the bill (one Republican voted against it). Another 15 or so Democrats didn’t vote at all. It passed 97-33. In the much smaller Senate (only 31 members) although there were no Democrats voting for the bill, there were a couple that didn’t vote. Although the vote didn’t count (yet) it passed by a significant margin, 19 – 10.

    I know it’s difficult to understand since so many Americans live in states with “elite” professional politicians making laws for them (like we have nationally) but it’s different in Texas. Our elected representatives are part-time, citizen representatives. They only get paid about $7,000/yr. so they live and work along with the rest of us most of the time. If they don’t represent what we believe, we don’t need term limits to get rid of them.

  • ozconservative

    Remember how, in the days following the tragedy at Sandy Hook, these infantile nitwits were screaming for gun control because it was “for the children blah blah blah”.

  • Dennis Sherbinski

    In response to to her post i say …YOU maam need to experience same pain baby feels when its being aborted.

    I seriously hope Rick Perry experiences the same terrible pain he is inflicting on millions of women. He is a coward and a blight. A pustule—
    Kari Bentley-Quinn (@inflammatorywrt) June 26, 2013

  • jamesben

    This Texan supports the Governor 100%. The session was hi-jacked by a MOB.

    We don’t do “MOB” in Texas – we don’t tolerate “MOB” in Texas – so, let’s get back to work and do things the correct way.

    • BAW

      I got three more voting Texans right here with you.

  • guido911

    I see the Kermit Gosnell fan base is focusing their attention to Texas.

  • Momo

    The pro life bill had the votes to pass and the only reason it didn’t was because of the anti democracy mob screaming in the chamber. Of course, Governor Perry would call another special session, elections have consequences…I heard that somewhere.

    The sad thing is this desire to protect all abortions, at all times, under any conditions, for any reason. Why is abortion so treasured and honored and waved around as a badge of honor? It is mind boggling to me.

    • GoneFishing

      Because, and they won’t admit it, they see infanticide as just another form of birth control to be had on demand, no questions asked.

  • Thursdaythe12th

    “Rick Perry not giving up on his mad thirst to control all the uteri.”

    Leaving something alone isn’t controlling it you halfwit.

    • Bathing Suit Area

      Regulating is “leaving alone” now?

  • Laura

    I’m embarrassed to be even partly pro-choice at this point. Why are women celebrating being able to kill a baby at nearly 6 months gestation? Past the point of viability, it is murder. If you want your choice, make it before 20 weeks. Plain and simple.

    • nc

      You would think that this would be “common ground” right? But when have you ever heard these people called “extreme?”

      Thank you, and keep thinking independently.

  • tingle007

    dont forget they want your taxes to pay for it all. if you oppose it you <3 rape.

  • CJWhodunit

    So proud to live in Texas, and to have voted for Governor Perry! :*)
    #ChooseLifeNotDeathForTheUnborn

  • JoAnn

    God bless you, Governor Perry

  • o0Nighthawk0o

    When the gallery answers a question asked by a gun control advocate during a hearing it is heckling and is considered by the left to be evil and vile but let these thugs scream, shout and disrupt a legislative session and the left claims victory. Amazing these people can’t see their own hypocrisy. Nice to see Perry standing up to these thugs.

  • fergalf

    Wow pro choice people are horribly bitter. Sad to see people carrying all that turmoil.

    • Bathing Suit Area

      Yeah, can’t they just get over being forced to give birth against their will? Geez, it’s like they want to own their own bodies or something.

      • fergalf

        Your child is not your body. You are not your mother’s body or chattel for that matter. Pretty simple biology and law really.

        • Bathing Suit Area

          You are not your mother’s body. You are also not entitled to use your mother’s body against her will.

          • fergalf

            No to stay alive it is fine.

            It is repulsive that you use the kidney donation analogy. Some one who refuses to donate with no risk to themselves to save someone else’s life is as a rule a terrible person. What kind of example is that!

          • Bathing Suit Area

            “with no risk to themselves”

            Kidney donation does pose a risk to the donor. As does childbirth for the mother. Which is why both of these things should be strictly voluntary.

          • fergalf

            There is a risk to every single task in everyday lives. Usually the risk is extremely low. The risk of kidney donation is extremely low. The risk of death from giving birth is 1 in ~10,000 where I live. hardly a dangerous endeavour?

          • Bathing Suit Area

            So you’re in favour of making both birth and kidney donations mandatory?

          • fergalf

            its a non sequitur. withholding a kidney donation isn’t certain death.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            If it were, would you want donations made mandatory?

          • fergalf

            The reality is there are many options. The countries with the best rates of donation do not even use presumed consent eg Spain. So yours is a 100% hypothetical situation but if was real you could easily have an arrangement like jury duty or military draft.

          • Bathing Suit Area

            Well, at least you’re consistent.

      • Duddioman

        Nobody forced them to wait 20 weeks to make the choice….

        Also, an infant is not part of the mother’s body.
        Tell me, if you refuse to use your body to provide food and shelter for your already-born children don’t you get prosecuted for child neglect? Sounds controlling to me…..

        Logic: Your worst enemy.

  • Cymbaline

    The headline isn’t really accurate. It should say:

    Gov. Rick Perry calls another special session for pro-life bill vote; Pro-aborts are, have always been, will never be anything but nasty.

  • tankdemon

    So Oklahoma hotels can expect extra business next month from the cowards of the Texas legislature who don’t want democracy to work.

    • TheOriginalDonald

      Or………..Wendy and her friends get a taste of their own medicine, with pro-lifers surrounding the house in protest until the DPS come to rescue her……..back in the Capitol for the special session 😉

  • Gerard Neumann

    Guess that’s why they call Satan the Prince of Darkness. His followers surely are living in it.

  • alanstorm

    Pro-aborts GET nasty? I think you have the tense wrong – they’ve always been like this.

    • CobraJet428

      They’re the residue of the Commie-infested FDR administration.

  • Kerry Haynes

    Its OK with liberals to kill babies as long as it wasn’t done with a firearm!!

  • Kerry Haynes

    Thank you sir!!!

  • Ramone Love

    What have we come to when a large segment of the U.S. population vociferously defends killing babies, regardless of circumstance? Very, very disturbing and sad.

  • Alfred Bundy

    The devil and his soldiers on Earth are mad now!

  • Ariel

    Are you all this oblivious to the future? What do you people suppose we do when abortion is banned? All you can look at is the present. Sure 20 weeks is too is too long of a wait, I agree with that, but making it nearly impossible to get an abortion in Texas is wrong. Where will the unwanted children go when the adoption agencies are full? They will be abused, they will starve. Young girls in fear of this happening will die trying to preform at home abortions; taking pills, using coat hangers, over drinking in hopes of a miscarriage. What about when Planned Parenthood is shut down? Look at the facts: people will not stop having sex, including men, and without a place with affordable women’s health care, there will be huge consequences. It is not as simple as “keeping your legs shut”. I’m sorry, I don’t believe abstinence will solve anything. Just because someone gets married does not mean that they will be ready for a child, much less can afford one. Believe me 99% of the women who get abortions aren’t using it as their main form of birth control. It is sick the way you treat these young women, if they are pregnant, they are looked down upon because they didn’t wait until marriage. If a woman chooses to get an abortion, she is looked down upon because it’s considered “murder”. The long and short of the matter is: I made it, it is growing inside of ME, I have every right to choose what to do with it. If I decide that an abortion would be in the best interest of myself and that of the unborn, I would trust my own judgment before that of a man in a suit.

    • Jen

      What will happen? Maybe if abortions are illegal people will start being a little more careful when they have sex and will take the steps to prevent an unwanted pregnancy instead of using an abortion as birth control..

      • Bathing Suit Area

        Based on that principle, we should shut down hospitals altogether and people will just start being more careful and never get hurt. Good plan.

      • Bathing Suit Area

        Based on that principle, we should shut down hospitals altogether and people will just start being more careful and never get hurt. Good plan.

  • Katherine Tulley

    Thank You Gov. Perry For Standing up for Life and For Women. Abortion Hurts Women. It hurt my Friend. RIP JP and Baby

  • James Atkins

    What do you do in life? He is a governor of a very large state…you?

  • Finrod Felagund

    Trolls don’t have real jobs.

  • Damien Johnson

    Completely agree. The whole “you’re a man, you have no say” argument is ridiculous and easily destroyed.

  • GoneFishing

    That’s a very intelligent answer to my questions….NOT! Are you really such an imbecile, that you don’t know how to answer questions? Robots have more intelligence than you. Maybe you just don’t want to tell us that you’re a deviant.

  • GoneFishing

    I’ve been looking at your commenting on other sites. You must be in…what, the 4th grade?

  • Karl Winrich

    Don’t you have a better page to go troll, obot?

  • Ginger Whetstine

    You all get so testy when you might be able to kill babies…. so sick.

  • 3seven77

    And you are a cockroach.

  • shalna

    trollin’, trollin’, trollin’…

  • Finrod Felagund

    Most fourth-graders are more mature and make better arguments.

  • fergalf

    Attack the ball not the man.

  • Cymbaline

    Please explain what your comment has to do with the issue.

  • RedSoloCup

    What three things, asswipe?

  • therantinggeek

    Short answer: SQUIRREL! #StandardLiberalAnswerWhenConfrontedByTruth

  • Mike Rogers

    In the decades long life of the opposition to abortion and the wide range of people involved in it, few doctors have ever met a bad fate. You know that killing an abortion doctor is something the overall movement does not endorse or promote. Yet you ghouls will make those that go beyond the law the face of the movement. Still, it’s nice to know some types of killing get to you.

  • Bathing Suit Area

    “You know that killing an abortion doctor is something the overall movement does not endorse or promote.”

    Do I know this? I’m hardly convinced.

    Why doesn’t the pro life movement support murdering doctors? Most people would agree with the use of deadly force top defend an innocent, and if you really consider abortions murder, it would be consistent to support killing doctors who perform them.

  • Mike Rogers

    With the anti abortion movement being as big as it is and as long lived as it is (since 1973 at least, and got more organized in the 1980’s) we should be hearing about an abortion doctor being offed every month, at least. But we don’t. Because the movement doesn’t roll like that. And *you know* it doesn’t roll like that. You simply want to grasp at whatever straw you can to justify the legal practice of preborn child mutilation and killing by using the actions of a few who went beyond the laws of God and man to stop it.

  • Bathing Suit Area

    Why don’t you support killing doctors? Most people would accept the use of deadly force to stop a murderer. If you really believe that abortion is murder, why don’t you kill the doctors involved?

  • Bathing Suit Area

    Why don’t you support killing doctors? Most people would accept the use of deadly force to stop a murderer. If you really believe that abortion is murder, why don’t you kill the doctors involved?

  • Mike Rogers

    Because of the problem that abortion is legal killing and we should be focused on changing the legality of it, not by breaking the law ourselves. It doesn’t make rational sense either. You kill an abortion doctor and that is just one less abortion doctor, another will take their place. Nothing is really accomplished. Killing abortion doctors is not only immoral but irrational.

  • Bathing Suit Area

    You’re taking tactics, not morals.

    Morally, why would you oppose someone killing doctors? Even if it only shut down one clinic for one day, wouldn’t that be worth it to you?

  • Mike Rogers

    It’s immoral and irrational. The only moral killing is in self defense or being legally convicted of henous/Capital crimes after due process of law. Period. The problem is a certain type of immoral killing is legal but it does not give you license to engage in immoral killing that is also illegal. Part of the problem with certain types of human killing being legal is that is serves to cheapen human life overall and it becomes part of the so called rational thinking that immoral killing is okay if it makes things more convenient or if you think someone is immoral. Abortion doctors that are within the law do not deserve to be killed, period. Change the law.

  • Bathing Suit Area

    So if the law were changed, and abortion was illegal, would you support killing doctors then?

  • Mike Rogers

    No, arrested and tried with due process of law.