Senate moves forward on Gang of 8’s amnesty proposal; Conservatives slam Rubio

CBS News’ Mark Knoller has some good advice for those planning to read the 1,992-page immigration reform bill that moved forward in the Senate today by a vote of 84-15; you can skip straight ahead to page 845 and not miss anything. That must be where all the stuff about making border security the top priority was before they scribbled it out.

Sen. Chuck Shumer of the Gang of 8 isn’t the only one doing a victory lap. The totally non-political non-profit known as @BarackObama was celebrating as well.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid hears music.

Sen. Marco Rubio, of course, was the GOP’s front man on the issue, appearing virtually everywhere to sell the plan to skeptical conservatives; however, the man who seemed to be on the short list for a 2016 run hasn’t impressed those who were counting on him to stand up to the wobbly D.C. establishment.

Sen. Chuck Grassley’s tweets might not always be the most eloquent, but he wins with his brief analysis of where the country stands.

On immigration reform or anything else, for that matter.

Some among the GOP expressed guarded enthusiasm for moving forward with debate, at least. Forgive us for not getting a thrill up the leg at the mere mention of the word “bipartisan,” though.

Sen. John Cornyn is arguing that something has to change.

But back to Rubio. Few expected more from the other members of the Gang of 8, but Rubio owns this legislation, and he’ll own the consequences.

Ouch. Warren Buffett’s #45 hashtag welcoming Hillary Clinton to Twitter was bad enough last night, but #HillarySmiling is more than we can take.

  • GrindingMills

    I think it’s unfair to put all the blame for this on Rubio. 33 GOP Senators voted yes (not including McCain, who didn’t vote.) Also interesting, only 2 GOP Senators on the border voted yes: Cornyn and Flake (again, not including McCain.)

    • Chevypowered

      I believe more was expected of him. A lot of people (my self included) knew how the usual suspect was going to roll. Rubio on the other hand was sent there to not be the “usual” suspects but jumped right into the line up.

      • GrindingMills

        I agree that he has the burden of expectations and as the “face” of the bill he opened himself up to criticism, but the point is that the problem isn’t isolated to Rubio.

        • Chevypowered

          And you would be correct on both counts but I tell you what Rubio will have a better chance lowering the temperature in hell by one degree over trying to convince his constituents what he just done.

    • OLLPOH # UnBanHana!!!!!!!

      They need to Debate, because the old majority know that it will make them feel so good and builds their arrogance quota.

    • Garth Haycock

      Rubio was the face of Republicans who want this to happen. He deserves all the blame he is getting for it.

      • GrindingMills

        So we should excuse the other 31 who voted yes, but weren’t in the Gang of 8?

        We should judge our representatives by the way they vote, not by their PR/political strategy failures. Guys like Rand Paul should have equal blame as Rubio on this.

        • Garth Haycock

          I’m not saying that at all. They all should be held responsible for this. But Rubio is who pushed this more than the others and should not be given any kind of a break here.

    • Anthony Clay


    • kssturgis62

      Oh no it is not Unfair, If he didn’t join with Schummer, Menedez, Bennett and Durbin, he would have been fine.

      Rubio is not Conned, Duped or stupid. This is what he did in Florida. This is what I tried to tell people before he was elected to the Senate. This got support because People believe this man with nice hair, is a good guy.

      Rubio is as Bad as McCain, if not worse. He lied from the beginning. He told one big whopper after another. He lied about using the Credit Card in Florida, he took Illegal Campaign contributions and had to pay them back. He never once stood with the Tea party, he was not at the Conference for the tea party over Targeting of the IRS. Marco Lied about Standing with Rand and Voted for Brennan. Marco Smacked Michelle Bachmann over the Muslim Brotherhood on NPR.

      Marco Rubio is a Liar, he is Liberal, and HE IS THE FOREIGN INFLUENCE ON OUR GOVT that our Founders Warned us about. He is a Disgrace, he is not a man of honor or integrity. He never was. It just that at the time it was Charlie Crist or him. People really didn’t have a Choice. NOW THEY KNOW, he gets elected again, it is either by fraud or the Stupidity of others.

      • GrindingMills

        Again, should the other 32 Senators not bear the responsibilities of voting yes? That’s my point, everyone here is bashing Rubio, but I think a lot of people are missing the forest for the trees. This isn’t a Rubio problem, this is a GOP problem.

        • ToyZebra

          It is a GOP problem. You are correct, Rubio is not alone. But Rubio has been pushing this hard. Rubio has also caved on the idea of securing the border first, realistically meaning the border will not be secured at all. And Rubio was supported by the tea party and conservatives because he was supposed to be better than this. I’m not surprised at McCain supporting it. There is a groove in the senate floor from McCain crossing the aisle so much. But Rubio was supposed to be part of the new blood to fix the problems, not add to them.

        • kssturgis62

          I blame the other 32, but they call him the Rock Star. They call him the Golden Boy. They hang him out there like Cotton Candy, but he only gives me Cavities. They followed their Leader. because they think that Leader is walking on clouds. His facebook page is losing Followers, and people are Sending back their water bottles.

    • Rulz

      It is unfair. If conservatives wouldn’t lead liberal lifestyles (ie hooked on farm subsidies or in the burbs think their 1-2 kids need their laptop and car w/ garage) this immigration issue wouldn’t be so problematic.

      I can’t say I agree with everything Rubio has said on this, but what is the GOP supposed to do when their base can’t show up to vote out the most radical president since FDR, maybe even Wilson, are on the doll themselves and don’t want to have families in a responsible way!

      The GOP has a demographic problem alright, but it sure isn’t with Latinos and Asians. They have 3-4 kids like in the 50s and 60s and the democrats would be the party scrambling to adapt.

      My impression is that Rubio knows the GOP has to do something or they are done.

      They had pure northern candidates on their 2012 ticket with Romney and Ryan (who I voted for) and they couldn’t even get Virginia, New Hampshire, Wisconsin or Iowa.

      So don’t blame Latinos for the re-election of Obama.

      • muckraker

        How about the GOP start being conservative rather than democrat lite? That would give us a glimmer of hope that they had woken up. The Reagan revolution and the contract for America had genuine support of a wide constituency. It was only when the republicans went on a wild spending spree that allowed the dems to take back the house and senate and we all know how that is going. It might be too late to get this country back on the right track but until there is a significant difference in the parties few people are going to be willing to put in the effort only to get pissed on in the end anyway.

    • rae palmer

      How is it unfair? Rubio took part in constructing this bill. It’s his baby. He’s pulling the wool over the eyes of Republicans and deceiving American citizens (example: says we secure the border FIRST in interviews here, says immigrants are given legal status first in his Spanish interviews. If that’s not deceptive, I don’t know what is.)

  • OLLPOH # UnBanHana!!!!!!!

    1. Build the fence…We The Taxpayer started paying for it over 30 years ago, and now we are in big trouble….BUILD THE FENCE!
    2. No way that we will allow employers to hire a person that is Not a citizen to hire them first versus a legal citizen because they won’t have to offer them ObamaCare, that is free pass in front of the line.
    3. Legal citizens will not have their eyes xrayed, just because that is what the plan is for illegals to get into the citizenship line.
    4. We citizens can not go across any border with out legal papers, documents or we end up behind bars, we the Taxpayer pay for all Your Legislation. Let Foreign Countries Pay To Make Them Legal in Their Country, and fix their Economy.

    • Garth Haycock

      A better solution than building the fence is to close all overseas bases – except Ramstein and consolidate all the posts in S. Korea to just one – and bring the military personnel home and have them defend the border. This will create less spending on defense and keep the border secure.

  • grais

    When are these creeps going to realize every time they try to do a “comprehensive” anything, they fuck it up all to hell.
    Are they going to pass this so they can see what’s in it?



    • grais

      Oh, my!

      • Canadian in USA

        I think he’s pissed. 😛

    • Barbarian

      Then burn again.

  • Steve_J

    Cornyn ” the status quo is unacceptable”. How about enforcing the current laws you dummy?

    • stillinthe60s

      Seems the same was said about Obamacare. Politicos really did better there didn’t they?

    • grais

      That Tea Party woman was correct: They have forgotten their place.

    • Ben Bollman

      No, that’s common sense and no one besides guys like Cruz and Lee have any.

  • Clete Torres

    Rubio is a huge disappointment from a Conservative standpoint.

  • Canadian in USA

    Sigh…once again, the “illegal immigrants” get pandered to again at the expense of everybody else.

    Still not giving up on legal immigration, though. But, to be honest, a small part of me has started to wonder if it’s worth it.

    • grais

      This is a punch in the gut to Every person who did, or is trying to, enter this country and become a US citizen legally over the past 200+ years.
      makes me sick!

      • Canadian in USA

        Just left a message for my Senator to talk about this. It’ll be interesting to see if he calls back.

  • ELC

    We see that the Dems have Marco by the B***s and he has no clue?Too bad he’s such a pansy and lets the Dems ride all over him. What a loser. Marco its called AMNESTY whether you want to admit to it or not. Kiss my vote good-bye. I’ll never give you another try.

    • Robn_s

      Does anyone else wonder if someone has been poking around in Marco’s Prism files? What’s the odds?

  • brando

    Rubio is shooting himself in the foot in the eyes of conservatives.

  • vetgal1970

    So, do I get to choose a law that I don’t want to follow and have amnesty applied to ME? Cause that Obamacare thing….

  • stillinthe60s

    Voted since 70’s and for Repubs since Reagan. Hate to say I voted for the last two RINO’s, or maybe better said against BO. But I swear I will not be voting from here on out if the Republicans help pass this Obamacare-like version of amnesty. And I sure as hell won’t be voting Rubio for dog catcher much less President!

  • annoyinglittletwerp

    I sent this e-mail to Cornyn yesterday evening. My husband didn’t support my doing so because I ‘demonized’ Rubio. i love it when my senator gives me the old ‘eff you’. ///:

    Sen. Cornyn: My paternal grandfather
    immigrated from the Pale of Settlement. My grandfather entered this
    country LEGALLY. I am OUTRAGED that while my family-and many
    others-followed the rules so they could
    come to this country, Sen. Rubio and his pro-amnesty pals want to reward
    those who chose to ‘border jump’. Worse than that-Rubio and friends
    consider amnesty to be of far more importance than securing our borders.
    As the granddaughter of an immigrant-I find Rubio’s line of thinking to
    be more than just offensive…I find it to be treasonous. A vote for
    cloture tomorrow is a vote FOR amnesty. Your amendment will do NOTHING
    to salvage an un-salvageable bill. As a proud citizen of the great state
    of Texas, I expect-I DEMAND-that those that represent me vote on the
    side of citizens rather than on the side of those who chose to join this
    nation through illegal means.

    • Milodactyl™


  • Red Fred

    It’s bad enough getting screwed by the left, but when our own representatives shove it to us, it’s just a little too much.

  • $37261919

    Narco Rubio is the fresh faced poster boy for Illegals, Inc., and the forked tongue sucker punch to the Right.

  • Anthony Clay

    if he is all we got we are doomed, i see these comments defending him, you make me sick, i voted for this lying bag of offal, he is mcain part deux the other major disappointment,does anyone stand for anything or is that just to much to ask for

  • Anthony Clay

    had 1100 at the vfw last night not one will vote for this guy now, he had a 99percent approval 4 months ago

    • jebjr

      Either he was initially lying to the American people or someone has gotten to him. In either case, he has lost my support because of this as well. Secure borders and NO amnesty.

  • $1014973

    The only way to really make this hurt the Grim Weeper Boehner and his fellow idiots is to refuse to vote for Republicans in the house in 2014. Let him lose his position as house leader and every pathetic Republican lose their committee chairs and influence. It’s not like they’ve done a damn thing for us in majority, so make them pay for their actions.

    • ToyZebra

      I’d love to clean out the weak, business-as-usual republicans, but purposely sitting out the next election is suicide. We have to take the senate and hold the house to have any chance. Give Obama both houses of congress when he has no fear of being voted out and it’s the death knell for America.

      • $1014973

        Sorry, it’s already the death knell. You have Republicans agreeing with letting in 11 to 20 million democratic voters, most of which will only be concerned in the voting booth with who is going to keep the gravy train running. They are more interested in keeping their career in government than doing what’s best for the future of America because it’s their career, not because they have any interest in serving their country.

        This country is lost regardless but I’ll be damned if I’m going to support a bunch of parasitic fools who have more in common with every member of the house and senate than they do with a single voter who put them there.

  • Anthony Clay

    think about it 1100 ballots he did not get one, i sent him email after email not to do this

  • Anthony Clay

    et tu marco

  • Marvin Nelson

    Bipartisan, bishmartisan. This smells to me like the “Obamacare move.” Make the bill long, complicated, and tell us what’s in it since reading it gives one a headache. Pass the bill, then do what you want anyway. I am very disappointed with Rubio’s sellout on immigration. I wouldn’t vote for him for dog catcher.

  • Anthony Clay

    between the muslims and the illegals, can someone show me the exit

  • Anthony Clay

    no tony i promise i will not c– in your mouth

  • camnpat

    Great job by Democrats to take out a prospective presidential candidate before he even runs. And Rubio fell right into the trap. Now he is the face of this abomination. He won’t get any illegal alien support, no Dem converts, and lost conservatives.

  • nc

    Haven’t we learned from the libbies by now that “good intentions” mean nothing if they bring bad results?

  • Anthony Clay

    the energy i expelled trying to convince this guy not to do this, wheres the refund desk, srry i am done venting now

  • overbusy

    The Senate Talk’s about this Bill as if it’s a Good thing was it a good thing in 1986 when there were only 3 million Illegal’s when there where promises made to enforce the border Now in 2013 there are at Least 11 million and the senate again want’s to legalize the 11 million with promises to secure the border after legalization. This bill is ANTI AMERICAN . The American voter’s Need to TELL their ELECTED senator’s that they REPRESENT THEM. there should Be a Recall on any-elected Official who is a Yea vote on this Anti American Bill. A RECALL by the American voter’s is Something the Politician’s understand . IF this Bill pass’s the senate they will have 11 million new voter’s This Bill is Anti American RE CALL YOUR ELECTED SENATOR (they were elected to represent the people) should he or she vote for this bill the politician’s are not listening to the American people. and if this bill Pass’s they will never have to listen to the American voter’s again THE SENATE WILL ONLY LISTEN WHEN THEY HERE THE AMERICAN VOTER’S TALK ABOUT RECALL. They aren’t listing Now because they think they have 11 million new voter’s. So Let your senator here you say RECALL they will be all EAR’S and they will care very dearly what the American voter has to say THEY WERE ELECTED TO SPEAK FOR YOU! (Marco Rubio Put the Screw’s to the Florida voter’s after all he is the Voice of Florida) MARCO RUBIO Make’s Alan Greyson look like a Conservitive Marco Rubio Certainly Misled,Lied,fooled the Florida voter’s he did O’bama’s dirty work and Florida thought they elected a Republican I Bet O’Bama and Democratic Party are laughing like hell at Florida because the voters thought they were electing a Republican .

    • Anthony Clay

      rubio is in the bag i know that now, remember when McCain first started going whackjob, the mumbling, looking out into space its the same thing. i voted for Che Guevara

  • Ray_Van_Dune

    The GOP Savior? Lets see where that leads, shall we? Hey, anybody got 30 pieces of silver?

  • JustLikeAnimals

    Schumer & Co. played Rubio and Ayotte like a drum. Dumbasses.

  • CombatDiver

    Pathetic…. That is all.

  • yourmamatoo

    How disappointing.
    And I had high hopes for him.

  • It’s Dumplins!

    Backstabber, Traitor, Enemy, Liar, Sewer Rat, Scum are just synonyms for Marco Rubio.

  • JustLikeAnimals

    That giant sucking sound @MarcoRubio hears is his 2016 chances going down the tubes. He won’t make it to the third GOP debate. What a dumb-ass.

  • Ben Bollman

    Screw Rubio, screw Boehner, screw Ayotte, and screw any other GOP politicians that supports this monstrosity. If you support this thing you may as well kiss your asses goodbye come election time because there is no excuse for any conservative to allow millions of Democrat voters into the voting pool. Oh and if you don’t think that will happen even with ‘conservative amendments’ that will eventually get eliminated by Democrats then you must be damn stupid.

  • Neil Leininger

    Like it matters. Let the Senate have their day, this isn’t going to ever pass the House.

    • DarkKnight2016

      Remember the last minute fiscal cliff deal? Boehner was able to get that passed with a handful of establishment Representatives and the Democrats. So it is possible that it could pass the House.

  • DarkKnight2016

    I agree with John Nolte. I still support Senator Rubio.

    Rubio has always been passionate with immigration reform and I have a theory in this case:

    Schumer and the Democrats know how dangerous he would be to them if he were to run for President of the United States in 2016, so what do they decide to do? They decide to destroy his reputation with the conservative Republican base and what other way to do that than with an issue Rubio is passionate about.

    So they worked up his hopes of a “bipartisan” agreement in which Chuck Schumer and the other liberals took advantage of Rubio’s Mr. Smith naivete of how Washington D.C. works and played him like a fool in negotiations.

    They knew that with the concessions Rubio would have to make to get them to agree on a bill that this will become a Democrat controlled bill that would be a typical nearly 1,000 page bill that makes no sense, would be negotiated behind closed doors (Rubio tried to get more public hearings but Pat Leahy, Judiciary Chair, wouldn’t have any), create more bureaucracy and eventually push amnesty.

    In this political climate the fact that he made a deal with Durbin, Schumer, Bennet and Menendez is enough to have the conservative movement turn on him as if he were a die hard liberal. All that is left is to pin the whole thing on him. Why else would the Democrats, who always demonize Republicans when chances for immigration reform come up, let a Republican lead the debate on immigration reform if it were not for political reasons?

    We are talking about Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL), Majority Whip; Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) Democratic Conference Vice Chair, Policy Committee Chair and former Chair of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee; Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ), former Chair of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO), current Chair of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

    This push for immigration could be nothing more than a plan by the Democrats to destroy Rubio. Yes, I do think the Democrats are that insane and politically driven to do it.

  • Anthony Clay

    you said that right

  • Marvin Nelson

    Rubio is a big old RINO. He sure let us conservatives down. I don’t know why I even listen to these idiots any more. They are all crooked snake oil salesmen.