Did Obama forget to return Marine’s salute?

From the pool report:

Under gray skies and intermittent drizzle, President Obama boarded Marine One at 9:30 a.m. EDT in an open press event.

A few White House regulars were atwitter (and on Twitter) when the President walked directly up the steps of Marine One without saluting the Marine on duty. He soon came out of the helicopter, walked down the steps, shook hands with the Marine and engaged in a brief conversation.

It’s possible Obama didn’t at first recognize the Marine without his umbrella. Or maybe at a future press conference we’ll learn more about the reason for the delay:

Video via The Blaze:

At about the 12-second mark you might see a late and half-hearted salute for which Obama returned to make amends, or perhaps the president was saluting somebody else in the helicopter when he realized he failed to return the salute of the Marine standing at attention. Either way, a handshake was due.

  • Andrew

    In case you didn’t know, Reagan was actually the first President to start the tradition of returning the Marine’s salute.

    • TocksNedlog

      Here’s FDR saluting the military:

      • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

        I mention above — and I may be wrong — but I think Reagan established it as a regular and routine custom, whereas it was somewhat sporadic before. I mean, I wouldn’t be surprised if Eisenhower regularly returned salutes, but I don’t think it was the =expected= protocol until Reagan made it so.
        And of course, the situation pictured above is somewhat different in any case.

        • ICOYAR

          Kennedy was in the Navy, so I assume he returned them as well.

        • GaryTheBrave

          Reagan was the first President where his every coming and going was broadcast live (“Maybe the next shooter really gets him and we miss it,” said the news producer) so he made certain he was seen saluting.

      • Claudio

        That’s weird. They were in the field

        • Jay Stevens

          That is clearly part of the “Pass in review” phase of a parade. Parades, by their nature, are not part of a field environment.

    • shimauma

      A salute implies that there is respect returned. F*ck that from barry hussien; the man has no honor, and that makes it an empty gesture from him.

    • Gordon Waite

      Andrew, where did you get this information from? As commander of all military forces presidents have been saluted from the get go! Do you think Regan was the first to regularly return his salutes? Please provide reference to your statement. I want to know for sure!

      • Highlander

        Without giving you hard evidence, it was noted in news services when Reagan saluted it was not the norm. I like it. But as a regular gesture boarding the helicopter it was not a normal thing to do.

    • Sally

      And the relevance of that here IS? Obama knew he forgot the first time. But then he forgot to remember to salute the second time. Oops.

    • TomJB

      With the retired generals we have had as cinc I highly doubt Reagan was the first

      • GaryTheBrave

        Washington, Grant, Eisenhower. What other Generals/Admirals were CINC?

    • Charles W. Romine


  • Walter Sobchak

    Yet he can’t restrain himself from bowing down to an Arab dictator in a filthy bedsheet.

  • RblDiver

    Perhaps he thought it was a stuffed corpse-man?

    • IBXNJ

      Guess Obama never saw an episode of MASH!


    Decorum is from the heart and soul of Love of God and Country and then self and family…
    His childhood raising had probably very little if anything to do with an American ‘ye countrymen’ patriotism. A man can not gain any genuine feel for that. He knows really nothing about it. You cannot fill the voids up with something that you were not exposed to as a child. He knows that he is missing something, that he knows nothing about. He is a very lost little boy. He views a lot of things from the eyes of a child.

    • SkyePuppy

      And that is why our Founding Fathers put the “natural born citizen clause” in the Constitution. As much as naturalized citizens love this country, their upbringing leaves them without a strong sense of who we are as Americans. Obama’s formative years were spent in Indonesia.

      • exbobbie

        As a very proud naturalized citizen, I appreciate and love this country more than a great many who were born here. I can appreciate what I have here, because I lived in another country prior, and have something to compare it with. Many who were born here have no respect for this country and it’s past history, hell, most of them don’t know it’s history, or even hate it’s history.

        Having said this, I agree that only a “natural born citizen” should be allowed to be President/Vice President of this great nation, but we need to do a better job of vetting future candidates, than we did this last time.

  • Hyork Dench

    Forget? Doubt it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremy-Buchanan/100000734266979 Jeremy Buchanan

      The Marine in Obama’s mind is inferior to him.

      • jebjr

        And you nailed it!!!

      • Oliver Leo Breeden Jr.

        He would not make a pimple on a Marines rear

      • Rightturn

        The Marine is certainly inferior to President Obama, the Commander-in-Chief. Have you not heard of the United States Constitution?

        • John Rebori

          No, the Marine is subordinate. Those under a superior are his subordinates, not his inferiors.

          • Rightturn

            And thus lower in rank; inferior. Check a thesaurus.

          • John Rebori

            You don’t look up definitions in a thesaurus. That only tells you a word might have a similar meaning. There is a huge difference between “kick the pail” and “kick the bucket”, but you wouldn’t know that from a thesaurus.

        • Jay Stevens

          Clearly, you have never served in the U. S. armed forces. If you had, you would have known the difference between “subordinate” and “inferior”. Check a thesaurus.

  • Mister A

    Guys, guys, he’s got wayy too much on his mind for this kind of trivial activity.

  • CasualMeyhem

    I’m unsure of the etiquette. O is Commander in Chief, but still (and by design) a civilian, so I suppose it could go either way. Unless there was ill intent I am inclined to give this a pass. I’m hardly a fan and there is an abundance of other reasons to be pissed at Obama. Let’s not trivialize ’em

    • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

      I appreciate your candor. But for those of us who are either military brats or retired military or who still work for the military this isn’t a trivial matter, it’s out of respect for the military that the CIC salute them back. Even Bill Clinton saluted them back and he didn’t serve in the military.

      • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

        My understanding is that it was President Reagan who first started returning salutes on a regular basis and so established the current custom. I’m with Mr. Mayhem up there — unless we know it was a deliberate snub, it’s one of the few things that doesn’t bug me about him.

        • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

          Actually, I’ve seen pictures of President Truman returning the salute and saluting on his own. I don’t care if it was a snub or not, out of respect he should return the salute. However, we all know that O and M have no respect for the US. Even Bill Clinton returned salutes out of respect and we all know he rode Vietnam out in England attending Oxford.

    • CitizenEgg

      This far into his presidency, it’s less intent and more about simple competency. Does he still wonder what kind of gang signs these guys are flashing at him or something?

    • GaryTheBrave

      I agree. Technically civilians don’t salute. This is a courtesy gesture. During Reagan’s term he was criticized for it because he wasn’t wearing a cover (hat in civilian parlance).

      • Jay Stevens

        Technically (your word), the President – a civilian – is also the Commander-in-Chief, a military position. As such, he is at the top of our chain of command. If we are required to salute him, common courtesy should require him to return it.

        My thoughts are that it is good thing we are saluting the position, not the man holding it or there would be a lot less saluting being done.

        • GaryTheBrave

          CINC is a military position, true, but not a uniformed or ranked position. Members (those in uniform) only salute the rank. This would also apply officers wearing civilian clothing. If you saw you CO on the street in civs you would not salute.

          The President could just give a nod in acknowledgement. That’s why I’m not giving him any grief on this.

    • shimauma

      A salute implies that there is respect returned. F*ck that from barry hussien who has no honor to start with. I feel bad that the Marines have to salute him.

  • TJ

    Someone has already calls it salutegate and racist to even comment on it.

    • CasualMeyhem

      I did WHAT?!!?

  • TocksNedlog

    It’s bad form to salute one’s umbrella stand.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremy-Buchanan/100000734266979 Jeremy Buchanan

      That is Obama for you.

  • maplebob23

    Saluting is a privilege and one 0bama has not earned.

    • shimauma

      well said. barry hussien doesn’t have an ounce of honor, and he doesn’t deserve he respect of a salute, much less be able to return one.

      • Jay Stevens

        Like I said up above, you are saluting the position, not the man.

        • shimauma

          that person(barry hussien) sullies the position. I’d be like saluting a pile of camel dung just because it got elected(though that might be better than what we have now)

    • Dwayne Jackson

      Wrong Bob. Saluting is Marine protocol and though a President may or may not salute back I feel it is a sign of respect for one to do so.

      • Jay Stevens

        Saluting is Marine military protocol.

    • El Guapo

      Maplebob is 100% correct. I cringe every time I see one of
      America’s young heroes placed in a position that requires them to salute this despicable man.

  • trixiewoobeans

    Like many Democrats and Dem politicians, they privately despise the military, but are known to use them for “patriotic” photo ops, and occasionally sending them out on some foray to polish their weak images or rescue their political careers.

  • dinkerduo

    I have always noticed that Obama’s salutes are half hearted at best–
    but not to salute at all is tacky—but then so was it tacky that he didn’t put his hand over his heart when the Nat’l Anthem was played and when he didn’t wear a flag pin—but then he doesn’t really consider himself an American–which is obvious!
    The whole military should stop saluting him–“commander in chief”–laughable!

  • Steve_J

    He ignored the Marine guard and had to return after being reminded by one of the flight crew. The half-assed salute looks like it was for one of the crew members.

  • Graham Shaw

    I don’t like Obama at all and I think he does hold our troops in contempt but I think this was an honest mistake, we should focus on what his IRS and AG are doing.

    • http://twitter.com/hatingliberals Mike

      Ok, how about this.. When you have a laser focus on all the lies you have to keep track of, you tend to not see what’s right in front of you.

  • cscape

    the KEY isn’t that the President forgot to salute….. the KEY is that he caved to Main Stream Media (anticipated) pressure…… they all (ABC, CBS, NBC) need to WAKE UP…..

  • Adam Johnson

    I think it was accidental, but when you are under such scrutiny over the way you treat your military, this is something that with caution, could have been avoided. And while I don’t think he respects the military, this was more likely a photo-op that backfired. You know, “look at me, guys. I’m taking an interest in this Marine.”

    • Michael Anderson (WB)

      Most likely it was accidental. If you’ve served, then the salute is second nature. If you haven’t served it would be pretty easy to forget it when you’re busy thinking about how to improve your golf game.

      • Jay Stevens

        No. The first month, it is accidental. After that, it is thoughtless at best.

        • GaryTheBrave

          I’m sure he forgot since he doesn’t travel that much. /sarc

    • trixiewoobeans

      Anything that is important to you, you make a habit. His many gaffes in this area show it is not important.

      • Adam Johnson

        I agree. All I was saying is that after a minute of dialogue, it would be easy to forget. I’ve seen military officers engage in conversation before returning the salute, then forgetting altogether. Don’t get me wrong, there’s no respect there. My son joining the Navy while this idiot is CIC scares me to death. All I’m saying is that I don’t think it was an intentional snub. Unlike, oh, I don’t know, maybe targeting specific groups with IRS, ATF and EPA investigations.

        • trixiewoobeans

          Wow, I feel your pain with your son. Prayers he will be always protected.

  • Mamaelk09

    Six years into presidency and he still can manage to remember a salute. Tragic.

    • GaryTheBrave

      It’s only been 4-1/2 years. It just feels like six. :-(

  • pajamakat

    obammy salutes nobody – except his own reflection in the mirror

  • Donna Sikorski

    He still didn’t salute the marine even though he shook his hand….DOOF!

  • © Sponge

    Will he give the soldier an iPod full of his speeches for Christmas as an apology?

  • Oliver Leo Breeden Jr.

    I am glad I am no longer in because I would NOT salute him just like I would NOT hold his umbrella

  • MsFitzTX

    I do not like him & his politics. But to make a big deal out of this is IMO dumb. He obviously overlooked the tradition but caught his error & came back out to shake his hand. Give it a rest & move on.

    • Canyouhandlethetruth

      He was called on it by the pilot who he did salute upon entering the helicopter. He then goes out at talks and shakes but still no salute.

      • MsFitzTX

        Yup, got it!

    • Jay Stevens

      Disagree. He has had more than 5 years to get it right. Choosing to overlook a tradition is his prerogative. Returning to shake the Marine’s hand is just a hastily organized photo op, “See, I really care about the people serving me.”

      Compared to everything else going on, it is not particularly important except for the insight into his character.

      • MsFitzTX

        Each to their own. I was well aware of his character before this.

        • Jay Stevens

          Hey, I grew up in Illinois. I am familiar with the fine, stellar products (eye roll) that the incredibly corrupt Cook County political machine produces.

  • Gordon Waite

    I can understand a non-military man not remembering to return a salute as it has not been a part of his culture! I can forgive that easy enough. What I can not forgive him is his refusal to salute the American flag! Remember the picture of him in the primary race of 07, up on the stage with all the others who had there hands over their hearts? But not him. There were so many clues, lies, denials and an embarrassing past of this man. Many of us saw it, but the majority did not, or refused to acknowledge, it’s importance. How you guys allowed him a second term is beyond comprehension.

  • http://www.davidsmusings.com/ David

    There is a lot to fault Obama for these days. From Fast and Furious to Benghazi to IRS targeting to the AP phone records. He is an arrogant prick whose massive ego finally has gotten him in hot water. However, I feel this is much ado about nothing since he came back down (probably apologized) and shook hands with the young Marine. When you have a lot on your mind these days (you know, like covering up the coverup?), you do stupid things sometimes. I think this is one of those times.

  • Greg

    wonder if he addressed him as a “corpse”man? Doh!

  • Russell Haynes

    He went up to see if anyone in the plane had an umbrella. You never know.

  • Renny

    He’s just got so many scandals on his mind.

  • Bill Board

    I’d bet Obama intentionally did not return the Marine’s salute. Obama has a history of disrespecting the military.

  • LochGates44

    It’s more of an insult when he does an insincere salute.

  • Highlander

    I don’t see the issue. I can NOT stand Obama but he did come back down and shake the marine’s hand. To me, no issue. I like Presidents saluting but none did until Reagan.

  • beebop1952

    Forget? …..

  • AbidewithMe

    I hope that Marine washed his hand afterwards.

  • $17227379

    I bet he had his mind on other things. Like how to continue to lie to the American people.

  • realitychecked

    The empty suit has obvious disdain for the military and most anything else this country once stood for. What a joke that he is “Commander in Chief.” The only thing he’s in command of are golf clubs.

  • JustLikeAnimals

    @BarackObama is a total a$$hole. Someone should train him with respect to military courtesy.

    • HolyCowRUKiddingme

      I would rather just send him back to Kenya!

  • dabhidh

    Most generous interpretation: Obama is ignorant of the fact that, as Commander In Chief, he is entitled (and expected) to return the salute of a man in uniform. He probably just thought, “Well, I’ve never worn the uniform, I don’t get to salute.”

    It’s up to you to decide which is worse – he deliberately refused to return the salute or, after over 4 years, he just doesn’t know what the protocols of his office are.

    • HolyCowRUKiddingme


  • Canyouhandlethetruth

    He was called on it by the pilot who he did salute upon entering the
    helicopter. He then goes out at talks and shakes but still no salute.


    Cmdr returns Salutes. Started when 2 men in support of Freedom met one another. Honor given.

  • Charles W. Romine

    Give him a break – he never served. He knows nothing of Military tradition. I doubt if he was even in the scouts. Cut him some slack – he is totally out of his element -community organizing (whatever the hell that is)

  • Tom Slick

    I heard he was BUSY thinking about the FRIED CHICKEN he and Woods had AFTER the GOLF Game BUT..as a MARINE, I know exactly what OBAMA and the Marines would have done IF the MARINE had not Saluted him..probly a Court Martial but since OBAMA FORGOT..it becomes a JOKE..something FUNNY to him as everything he does is funny..I think he should be FIRED..it,s an INSULT to the Marine but WHAT Marine REALLY cares if OBAMA Salutes them or not..they want a REAL PRESIDENT to Salute them..not a wannabe…he dosent even place his hand over his Heart and IF he does..it,s his LEFT HAND to his RIGHT side..what a guy huh? What do you expect for a KID who thin ks we have 57 States…..now the Marine can tell all his budies how MESSED UP OBAMA is…he shouldnt even be the Commander of ANY Armed Forces..maybe the BSOA….THIS is what THEY say in the MALL…..

  • Roto

    I’ll bet Obama thinks HMX-1 is a video game :-)

  • James Rose

    The Salute is a display of respect. Need I say more.