Gone to Texas: Ted Cruz zings Scranton’s own Joe Biden over finale of ‘The Office’

On Thursday night’s series finale of “The Office,” Jim and Pam revealed they’re leaving behind Scranton for Austin. So much for hanging around Joe Biden’s hometown! Sen. Ted Cruz couldn’t resist zinging the VP.

  • Ryan

    Sadly Austin is even more liberal than Scranton.

    • http://www.facebook.com/valeriun.scarlett Valeriun Scarlett

      Gun, beat me to it, that thinking minds thing!

    • American Avant Garde

      Scranton isn’t “liberal”as much as it is run like a Italian-Irish Tammany-Hall type mob of corrupt bureaucrats.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Jackson/1316589869 Gary Jackson

      Sure gettin’ that way! Liberals destroy everything they touch.

    • tommcgtx

      Haha, I’m in El Paso, and I was thinking the same thing

      • texabama

        Unfortunately El Paso is right there with Austin. If it weren’t for all those wonderful Army vets (and my family) I’d almost be tempted to move that border a bit more.

        • tommcgtx

          You’re 100% correct! I happen to be one of those vets, and am originally a Pittsburgh boy. Which border would you move, the New Mexico one, or the Mexico one? lol

          • texabama

            Would it matter? I’m now in Alabama, but have kept my options open with a little piece of land in central Texas. If you stay out of Birmingham and Montgomery it doesn’t get any more conservative than rural Alabama.

    • Zathras11 @B5

      Yes, but it is still in Texas, so there is always hope.

      • Enik Three

        I live on the outskirts of Austin. And having lived in New England I can tell you that Austin is definitely still Texas. And it’s NOWHERE NEAR as bad as the places that the parasites from New York and Massachusetts have infested like southern Maine, southern New Hampshire, Vermont, etc.

        • GerryMaine

          I have to agree…the Massholes have ruined Southern Maine!! It used to be conservative.

    • L R

      Just the downtown area. Long-time residents of Austin are still good ole Texas folk with good ole Texas values. UT Austin hippie students ruined that town’s image in the 70’s!

      • DrSamHerman

        Were that only true. The high tech industries moving in brought with them thousands of displaced Left Coasters who burying the suburbs with their garbage ideas. From Round Rock down I-35 to Austin, it’s one big leftist groupthink mass of manure.

    • DrSamHerman

      The funny thing about Austin is that so many people think it’s a great town. It’s really not. It’s crowded, expensive and the highway systems around it suck. I-35 is always packed like a mall parking lot the Friday after Thanksgiving, the streets are not very well maintained considering how much higher the taxes are than the rest of Texas, and the University is schizophrenic about being Texan or being Eastern. Not to mention the city draws every leftist whacko in Texas. A number of psychiatrists in Texas consider it to be the state’s biggest mental facility.

      • Jon

        The liberals running Austin and Travis County decided back in the 1970s if they built no more highways through town after I-35 people wouldn’t either move to the area or use their cars to get around. That’s why it’s the only major Texas city with no loop road, and they had to build the toll road east of town and the toll northern section of MoPac in the past decade to cope with reality.

  • Michael Anderson (WB)

    If it wasn’t for the heat I’d go back, but it’s nice living where 80 is hot. (Downside is cold starts at 0F)

  • CombatDiver

    20-Cruz-16

  • FaithColeridge33

    Too bad it’s so darn hot. A Maine girl just wouldn’t transplant well. I’ve tried. A place that is 100 degrees in May just isn’t for me.

    • Jaynie59

      That’s why God invented air conditioning. I moved from New England to the Gulf Coast of south Florida two years ago and I love it here. I’m never going back.
      Just make sure you get a place with a garage, a pool, central air, and make sure your cars AC works. And you do get used to it. I actually like the hot summers. My house has a pool and a private backyard, but the pool isn’t heated so the hot summer months are the only time I can go in it. I get my cigarettes and beer and float in the pool and gaze up at the blue sky.

      • FaithColeridge33

        I tried. It just wasn’t natural to my body. Husband accepted a transfer to Alabama. After three years of it we needed blizzards. It’s just in your blood for many.

        • Jaynie59

          More power to you. As I got older I came to really hate snow. Driving in it. Shoveling it. Just knowing a storm was coming. The power outages. The ice. Never having to scrape my windshield ever again makes me very happy.

          • Abiss

            Ditto.

  • http://twitter.com/IKECSA ike

    Austin is Blue, Rafael…oops I mean Ted. Texas is kind of west and south and isn’t good at being either.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Jackson/1316589869 Gary Jackson

    God bless Ted Cruz, proud to call him my Senator We need 534 more just like him in Congress

    • GaryTheBrave

      I’m trying to find one in CO to replace Udall in ’14. I’m hoping my congress critter, Cory Gardner, takes the plunge. Or Michelle Malkin. 😉

  • joe drake

    Downtown Scranton has the finest Texas Wieners!

    • CatHerder

      What by all that’s holy is a Texas Wiener? An extra large…

      • Sharkteeth

        KeiBASA baby

  • joe drake

    Downtown Scranton has the finest Texas Wieners!

  • lessthantolerant

    If you have ever been to Scranton you could understand going to a hole like Austin. It is an improvement even if it has too many gays.

  • Expat61

    In a battle of wits, the Vice President is unarmed.

  • rm1evo

    Even though it’s fiction. They are moving to the most liberal city in Texas.

  • Sean

    The hippy culture in Austin doesn’t negate state law.

  • V the K

    Isn’t hilarious how the most liberal city in America … Detroit… has been run by left liberals for fifty years and is a complete hellhole and not a utopian paradise?

  • digitalPimple

    See, even liberals can prosper in Texas despite their best attempts otherwise.

  • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

    Funny? It’s freakishly abnormal.

    You’re wrong about one thing, liberals LOVE money and economic prosperity. How else would they get their own money and power if they didn’t suck the lifeblood from the hard work of others? (you do know that Austin is the state capitol)

  • acb4values

    It’s a college town and the capitol of Texas…..so there’s that! Also, all the surrounding area is very conservative.

  • OpenTheDoor

    It damn sure ain’t Houston!

  • Cory

    I’m from Texas, it’s not as conservative here as people think. All the major cities have Democratic mayors, except for Ft. Worth (my home). They are doing quite well. I have no beef with any party or ideology I just wanted to mention how great Texas is and everyone can prosper even those “SOCIALIST LIBERALS.” Lol.

  • Cory

    Obviously you haven’t been to Detroit, because it’s definitely the most liberal city. I noticed you didn’t mention Silicon Valley or New York City, or the whole east coast besides New Jersey. All those cities are doing quite well. You only mention one city Detroit.

  • MSM

    I’m from near Austin. The only reason the city council is entirely democratic is because they clung to a city-wide election for so long. Only recently have they been forced to switch to district-elections (next election that starts) and yeah, the Austin’s suburbs vary from pink to cherry-red. No amount of gerrymandering is going to keep Austin from electing a few republicans to the city council.

    But read the Texas Constitution. Cities are severely limited on how much they can tax their citizens in Texas. Don’t think Austinites wouldn’t have raised taxes to the heavens long ago if they could have.

    While Dallas and Houston have deregulated their energy markets, Austin clings to its regulated market despite running a huge deficit. They tried to raise rates (because their utility company is big time in the red), but the citizens made a fuss and the city council backed off. –> kick the can down the road.

    And recently Austin’s city council was shocked that a recent education municipal bond vote failed. It’s the first to fail in decades. Last election (during the 2012 presidential turnout), an affordable housing initiative in Austin, liberal austin, crashed and burned.

    So Austin may not be quite the liberal paradise you think it is. It’s actually becoming more libertarian than liberal. Trust me, I know plenty of liberal austinites who love their guns as much as any red neck.

  • Cory

    Or maybe conservatives don’t have the monopoly on economic prosperity like some of you make it seem.

  • Cory

    There are no laws in Texas lol.

  • CAmom760

    It starts that way, but eventually………..california.

  • CAmom760

    It starts that way, but eventually………..california.

  • Cory

    Houston is booming too. It’s a great city.

  • Cory

    It’s just funny how the supposedly conservative Texas has a liberal state capitol. Oxford, MS is a college town and I guarantee it’s not liberal.

  • Sharkteeth

    Liberal Wannabe dictators move to a nice city and destroy it.

  • Bob Richards

    Nah, not conservative. Just a Republican governor, both houses, every major statewide office, both U S Senators, and nearly every county voted Republican in every Presidential election since Ronald Reagan.

  • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

    Big cities are the home to the most vacuumist of leeches from the public trough. Why wouldn’t they have Democrat Mayors?

  • DrSamHerman

    Well, at least we know where you are pretending to be from, i. e. TCOM. That’s the only medical school in Fort Worth if you are indeed a physician or medical student–and I have serious doubts about that given your penchant for quoting bad material like Wikipedia.

  • V the K

    I grew in Michigan. I know whereof I speak. And Detroit has been independently verified as the most liberal city in the USA.

    Last I saw, California cities were going bankrupt like lights on a Christmas tree… Stockton, San Bernardino…

    And NYC was a hellhole until Giuliani cleaned it up. And when they elect a moonbat Democrat in the next election, it will go back to being a hellhole, like liberal-run Rochester and Buffalo.

    http://americancityandcounty.com/content/study-ranks-americas-most-liberal-and-conservative-cities

  • http://twitter.com/conservag Aaron

    Yeah! Liberal New York is doing awesome!

    Only $338 BILLION in debt! And climbing! WOO HOO!

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-new-york-debt-clock.html

    New Jersey is only $100 Billion in debt….

  • NCRelite

    Giuliani cleaned up NYC, he’s a Republican in case you didn’t know. The reason why the Silicon Valley is so prosperous is because of successful private citizens and their efforts, not because of tax and spend liberal politicians.

  • DrSamHerman

    New Jersey is doing well only because Governor Christie had the b@lls to take on the legisllature and get pension reform and austerities to take the state back into some fiscal order. Illinois is a hellhole that will never be able to pay its bills and will likely be asking their friend in the White House for a bailout. Same for some other states. Funny how Michigan and Wisconsin both turned around after Republican governors took the reins and slashed the fat.

  • Cory

    Republican doesn’t equal conservative.

  • Copcheck

    If you think Detroit is anything but liberal you’re mistaken. I live outside of Detroit and have to deal with the fallout from that hell hole.

  • V the K

    Back in the real world, nothing is booming except disability, corporate welfare (a.k.a quantitative easing) and food stamps; success defined by the liberal left.

  • MSM

    The urbanophile had a good article on why some cities prosper and some don’t. I need to find it. It’s a big question of why one city blossoms and why another becomes a Detroit. Nobody has a good answer for that.

    But even he concludes, the most vital thing is the city must have jobs. Jobs are essential. Nobody will go to a city that doesn’t offer jobs. Period. Detroit had one industry and when that failed so did Detroit. A lot of the rust belt cities suffer from this problem.

    All the examples you listed have: jobs. So people come. But why do they have jobs? Why did the jobs choose them? State capitols have an unfair advantage in this because they have a very consistent job source: government (aka Austin).

    Silicon Valley is not a city (though it does seem to think of itself as one). Let’s say the San Francisco area. It is riding off much of what it established in the 90s, but demographically speaking it’s doomed to decline. Do you know why? That area has the lowest number of children in all of North America. Families can’t afford to live there and that’s going to hurt them more than the realize.

    Austin, Dallas, and Houston have tons of families moving there. This ensures a young and healthy demographic. These cities are in really good shape for now and the future.

    But that is not because Austin’s City Council encouraged that, quite the opposite in fact, but they couldn’t stop it because of state laws.

    California’s state laws however are driving families out. So are New York’s. (41 % of all New Yorkers under 30 polled in 2011 planned to leave the state). New York city has enough of a pull to offset this. But most liberal cities driving out young families are not so young.

    So my advise before you tout the liberal city model, please just wait. To live the good life now, many of those cities have sacrificed their futures.

  • Rosalie

    I suspect that Detroit became “a dump” through the Democrats.

  • Cory

    To me libertarians are the most liberal. We advocate for living your life the way you want. Republicans and Democrats are the one’s who constrict one’s way of life. That’s not liberal, liberal is letting one live their own life.

  • JustLikeAnimals

    Yeah. Some lib-progs have a real hard time with the concept of TEXAS liberal. It ain’t your daddy’s “liberal.”

  • Cory

    And Texas is 277 billion in debt…..

  • Cory

    My wallet is booming, so I’m good.

  • Cory

    “If you’re not rich, it’s your own fault.” -Herman Cain. You can’t blame liberals for you not being rich. Self responsibility.

  • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

    Wait, you KNOW that the poorest areas in the US are rural but you only THINK that Austin doesn’t have a lot of folks on the dole? That is surprising.
    Could it be that you don’t know anything at all about Austin? Or is it that you only think you know everything about the rest of America?

  • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

    So you know for a fact that Oxford is not liberal or are you speculating again and trying to portray it as first hand knowledge? This seems to be a pattern for you.

  • r07a23c

    Not funny at all…. I live in Columbia, SC, and though South Carolina as a state is as red as they come, the mayor of Cola is a Democrat, and the city’s districts vote Democrat in every statewide and national election. Capitols are often liberal (Democrat) because it’s where all the “social” service offices are- People who vote for self-benefits are going to live where it’s easiest to access them.

  • r07a23c

    Not funny at all…. I live in Columbia, SC, and though South Carolina as a state is as red as they come, the mayor of Cola is a Democrat, and the city’s districts vote Democrat in every statewide and national election. Capitols are often liberal (Democrat) because it’s where all the “social” service offices are- People who vote for self-benefits are going to live where it’s easiest to access them.

  • http://twitter.com/IKECSA ike

    There are too many laws in Texas. Texas is great at marketing itself but rarely measures up.

  • Cory

    I’m a Texan, I know a lot about Austin. Big cities have people on the dole, but a majority of Austin isn’t on the dole. Rural America is poor, it’s simple as that. I have no animosity towards rural America, I’m just stating fact.

  • Billie Slash

    Cory is of the same ilk as Luke Russert–young know-it-alls with all the answers (unlike us ignorant ‘boomers)

  • Cory

    Have you been to Oxford, MS? I have, I used to go there all the time on my way to Alabama for college from Texas. You would go through Oxford to get to US route 72 from I-40 after going through Arkansas and Memphis. Need I say more? I could give you the whole outline of the city, it’s not that big. Right on the TN border, etc. I’m a son of the South.

  • Cory

    I’m not touting any models, I really don’t care about ideology. My main goal in life is to make money, I don’t care if it’s in Lincoln, NE or LA. I just wanted to point out that not all liberal cities are poor, just as not all conservative cities are booming.

  • TomJB

    Megan, the auto industry didn’t fail, it is doing quite well in Ohio, Tennessee and Alabama. Americans still buy cars and will continue to do so until something else comes along to replace them as our primary mode of personal transportation. Since the industry thrives in some places and not in Detroit means that the reason it failed in Detroit has to do with Detroit and not the industry itself.

  • Cory

    The only thing I object to in Texas is Rick Perry and his strong-armed type government. He’s way too involved, and just needs to let his state run by itself.

  • Billie Slash

    “Too many laws”
    Code word for marijuana is still illegal here.

  • SDN

    You know where the border is.

  • http://twitter.com/conservag Aaron

    I’m not here to defend Texas. You said those places are doing quite well, but they are most certainly not.

    How are you defining “quite well”?

  • American Avant Garde

    Texas has a 10 billion dollar surplus.

  • LegalizeHazing

    The difference is Texas owns that in Gold… Texas has black gold to back that up too. They’re not just taking advantage of artificially low interest rates. The state is actually are a safe investment. No other state compares.

  • Billie Slash

    You’re talking out of your ass. We have a $8.8 BILLION surplus as of January 2013. (source: NYT)

  • CatHerder

    Wrong! Utterly wrong! Texas ran an 8.8 BILLION dollar budget surplus this year. The only squabble now is Perry wants to cut taxes due to growth and the Legislature wants to invest more in schools.

  • L R

    you are mis-informed or lying…texas has a balanced budget plus a surplus!

  • Billie Slash

    What are you talking about?? Do you even live here??

  • NCRelite

    That’s rich –compare Texas to California where you can’t even run a lemonade stand without dozens of permits – the 10% state income tax, gas tax, etc. Now they’re letting criminals out of prison because they have no money, yet they want to build choochoo trains to nowhere for billions of dollars.

  • TexSizzle

    You can’t have it both ways: no laws or strong-arm government. They’re mutually exclusive.

  • Cory

    I define doing well based on their economic activity. NY has a lot of economic activity and I can easily go there and make lots of money with ease. I could care less about state debt, or unemployment rate because I will always have a job.

  • Cory

    Look at their debt clock, it’s still going up. That’s not a surplus. With a surplus it would go down.

  • Cory
  • Billie Slash

    “I really don’t care about ideology”.
    Isn’t this mind-set a bit short-sighted? While I admire your ambition, the ideology of a particular city will have a direct impact on your wallet if it is a high-tax (property, sales, state income tax, etc) and non-business friendly place, which describes most “blue cities”. The key is not only making money, but getting to keep more of it.

  • Billie Slash

    Good luck. You’ll need it.

  • GaryTheBrave

    Yes, you can make lots of money in NY. You’ll also spend most of it just to survive there.

  • GaryTheBrave

    Yes, you can make lots of money in NY. You’ll also spend most of it just to survive there.

  • digitalPimple

    Or… facts and statistics are simply beyond your scope of understanding.

  • Cory

    What are you talking about lol?

  • Cory
  • Cory
  • Cory

    I’m not hating on Texas, I am a Texan. I love my state and it’s greatness.

  • Cory

    Don’t need luck, I have God and education.

  • $7610427

    Well Dems have hijacked the term, then. I identify as a conservative libertarian…small government, fiscal and personal responsibility, lower taxes. The arm of the government shouldn’t reach all the way to my kitchen or bedroom!

  • MSM

    I agree somewhat with that definition.

  • Cory

    I’m not a conservative, because conservatives like to restrict one’s personal life. I really don’t have an ideology, but I do believe in the same things you do. Unfortunately, Republicans and Democrats don’t fit those categories. Libertarianism is the closest thing to my ideology.

  • Cory

    Wikipedia’s definition of liberalism. I think it has changed within today’s society.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

  • Cory

    No, I’m just a Texan and we do know all the answers. That’s why our state is booming.

  • MSM

    I should have been more specific. That industry collapsed in Detroit not in the whole of the US. The auto industry abandoned Detroit not the US.

    Fair point.

  • TomJB

    usdebtclock.org isn’t facts, thought it may be close. Its just a neat javascript or back-end formula someone wrote along the lines of: beginning debt + (rate of growth * time) = current debt. I would find it very hard to believe that “clock” accesses the database of the Texas state treasury…

    Surplus / deficit isn’t the same as the debt. Deficit is added to debt, yes, but surplus isn’t subtracted from debt until the decision is made to use the surplus to pay down the debt. So Texas can actually run a surplus and increase debt at the same time if that surplus is spent elsewhere. Surplus and deficit are mutually exclusive, surplus and debt are not.

  • $7610427

    I live in rural Rockwall County…you can look up the stats. What looks poor by your definition isn’t always so. Assets have value…land, farming equipment, livestock, etc. It takes a lot of dough to live in the country. Do you even have a clue how much planting and harvesting equipment costs? I bet I have more invested in mowing equipment than you have sitting in your driveway! A lot of deep pockets come in the form of overalls!

  • DrSamHerman

    Rural Collin, Denton or Bexar County is poor? Where in the hell are you getting your demographics?

  • Cory

    Yes I live in Ft. Worth. Look at what Perry is doing to UT and tell me that’s not strong arm tactics.

  • Cory

    What Texas needs is a governor that’s similar to Ron Paul. Basically you should just be a guy holding the title, and let the state breathe.

  • Cory

    I don’t care about California, I’m a Texan.

  • TomJB

    Don’t fool yourself, Liberals want to restrict one’s personal life way more than Conservatives – what kind of foods I can eat, what kind of car I can drive, what kind of gas I can put in that car, what kind of lightbulb I can use, what kind of toilet I can install in my house, how much salt I can put on my food, what kind of milk I can drink, ad nauseum.

    There are outliers, yes, but most Conservatives would willing let people do whatever they want as long as they are also held responsible for the consequences of those actions. Want to have lots of unprotected sex in the privacy of your own home? Go for it, just don’t demand anyone else pay for your abortion, costs of raising a child, or STD medication. Want to do drugs (without harming anyone else)? By all means, go for it, but don’t demand I pay for your rehab.

    Keep government out of the bedroom is just a start and Liberal mantra. Conservatives want it also out of the kitchen, bathroom, garage, living room, etc, and constrained to its granted powers by the US and individual State Constitutions.

  • $7610427

    Conservative means cautious, limited, restrained…all the things a government should be. Republicans have a tendency to want to restrict personal lives in the opposite way that Democrats want to restrict personal lives. As a libertarian…my personal life is just that…personal.

  • $7610427

    That depends on your definition of “great”… I think HTown sucks! I’ve lived there.

  • Cory

    I don’t blame the party, I blame the people who voted them in.

  • Cory

    Nope, if environment changes, I could easily just move and find another job somewhere else. Luckily living in Texas, I won’t have to worry about that.

  • Cory

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism, Tell me what part of the definition you disagree with?

  • Cory

    That’s not true, i.e. the Religious Right. The most conservative candidates in the past two elections have been Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee. Both of those guys want government in your home.

  • Cory

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

    Explain to me how Detroit fits this category.

  • $23988033

    I live outside of the Dem Union Dump of Deetroit “The D” too but I am moving in 2 weeks to Texas. Detroit is a rotting liberal cesspool of decay. We took friends from Atlanta to Red Wings Game in Feb and went to dinner. My friends said, “Wow, Detroit really is a mess” but here is the kicker …we were in the nice area.

  • Billie Slash

    Well, your ass is bigger, not smarter.

    Your inability to read a financial statement is proof that your arrogance trumps your intelligence. Let me educate you. The debt of $277B is 19% of the GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT amount of over $1.4 TRILLION. The only thing worse than your comment is your grade in Economics 101.

  • GaryTheBrave

    The US Debt Clock is probably more reliable than Wikipedia, but it is not the be all and end all of budget debates.

    Here is a review of the biennial Texas budget:

    http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Texas_state_budget

  • GaryTheBrave

    The US Debt Clock is probably more reliable than Wikipedia, but it is not the be all and end all of budget debates.

    Here is a review of the biennial Texas budget:

    http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Texas_state_budget

  • Cory

    Again, the debt is still going up. If you’re not paying off your debt, then you still have a debt. Using the money to spend on other things isn’t a surplus.

  • Cory

    I’m not anti-Republican, so I don’t know how this applies to the conversation.

  • Cory

    I also never said tax and spend is the way to go, I earlier said I believe in low taxes and small government.

  • Cory

    And liberalism means liberty and equality, personal responsibility. I want my government to be progressive in terms of keeping up with the times, and I want it to get progressively smaller also.

  • Cory

    California has a smaller debt to GDP ratio. And thanks for commenting on my ass, I have been doing squats. It’s nice to see the hard work pay off.

  • Billie Slash

    If you think “strong arm tactics” include trying to make UT more affordable, then clearly you’re wrong. Gov. Perry isn’t the only one who is trying to reform state universities to make them not only affordable, but productive and accountable as well. This is being considered in Wisconsin, Florida, and Virginia. For those of us with some fiscal sanity, this is an excellent move.

  • Enik Three

    Maybe you should move. Seriously.

  • DrSamHerman

    What exactly is Perry doing to UT but what the regents and the legislature allow him to do? Thanks to more than a century of corrupt Democrat governors, the legislature weakened the position of governor so it’s not the strong-arm office like New Jersey or New York.

    UT has long been a cesspool of the state’s worst employees: lazy, lethargic, leftist and loafing. So they have to be more accountable to taxpayers, students and their other constituencies. Boo hoo.

  • Cory

    That’s what the college presidents are for, not the governor of the state. He should let the market decide, not the state. Strong arm tactics. UT is doing just fine and if the students had a problem with it, they can go somewhere else.

  • Billie Slash

    But clearly not much life experience.

  • Cory

    That’s fine, I am young, but I don’t need life experience to make money. So I’m good in that regard.

  • SDN

    Except that the college presidents, being lying liberals like you, won’t do their jobs.

  • Billie Slash

    College presidents are not going to cut tuition for students arbitrarily, because that means that the faculty may not get future raises/financial incentives. You do not specify if you paid for your own education. However, in these bad economic times, wouldn’t your parents be better off if they could go into less debt for your education, rather than more?? Try to look at this from a parents’ point of view…..

  • MarcusFenix

    The only flaw in your logic, regardless of the university location, is believing that the president of a college, or any of his associates, are going to do something that makes college affordable for people who genuinely want to go but don’t have the money to do so.

    And I’ll cut off any “that’s what grants and scholarships are for” arguments, because lets be real….there’s just not enough money to go around to do that. Times are tight all over. People having to work 2 jobs to pay the bills aren’t going to have extra funds for college. The market for colleges is all about getting *more* money, not less, from the students. The rate of college tuition has outpaced the rate of inflation since at *least* 2001, and funding for students has dropped as much. Colleges, trying to contain inflating costs and other economic woes, raise tuition. That’s how they correct their market…they raise the price.

    Make no mistake…college presidents and their boards are all about making money. “Letting the market correct” is like saying “Excuse me, Mr. Fox…I need you to guard this hen house for a little while.”

    And using the mentality of “Let UT students go elsewhere” would drive the price up even higher. Lower attendance or matriculation rates only drive the price up, because the college wants to maintain their income. Less students means jacking the price to cover the difference. Specifically, UT jacks its price up, then students can’t afford to go there, so they do go somewhere else thats cheaper, causing more problems for UT, and then lather/rince/repeat.

  • SDN

    Bull.

  • AwakenNow

    Lefty, liberal Democrat taught by union teachers and socialist/ communist professors. Texans believe in freedom, liberty, opportunity and personal responsibility.

  • 1SkepticalChick

    Barely.

  • Guest

    You’re a ‘TIRO’ — Texan In Residence Only.

  • Cory

    No I don’t drink Red Bull. Too much caffeine.

  • Billie Slash

    It wasn’t a compliment, genius.

  • Cory

    Physicians always have jobs

  • Cory

    I’m salaried and work in academics. Im good.

  • GaryTheBrave

    You could easily move, but it isn’t necessarily easy finding a new job. It depends on what you do and how flexible you are about changing that definition.

  • GaryTheBrave

    Take a look towards the end of the article. Detroit fits the Liberal Socialism definition.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_socialism

  • 1SkepticalChick

    Wiki lies again! Get a real education.

  • GaryTheBrave

    There is a difference between debt and deficit. You may make $100,000 /year and live in a $300,000 house. Your debt is $300,000, but since you can make the payments and still have money at the end of the month you are not running a deficit.

  • GaryTheBrave

    Private school or government school?

  • GaryTheBrave

    Private school or government school?

  • DrSamHerman

    You are an academic physician? That figures. Most whackademic physicians have zero business sense and also think a university will always take care of them. Right. Have you bothered reading up on the loss of training subsidies for residents? Or perhaps the lowered reimbursements for physicians at large state-supported academic institutions?

    As a physician with a full-time clinical practice in the real world, let me just advise you to take some business courses. With even lager NIH and educational cuts coming, your position is about as insecure as it gets.

  • Cory

    I work at a hospital that’s sponsored by a state school.

  • Cory

    I work at a hospital that’s sponsored by a state school.

  • GaryTheBrave

    Have enrollments in Med school grown, declined, or stabilized since the implementation of the ACA? (Just curious, not arguing.)

  • GaryTheBrave

    Have enrollments in Med school grown, declined, or stabilized since the implementation of the ACA? (Just curious, not arguing.)

  • Cory

    They have grown exponentially, I know where I am the class will be at 250 in 2017. It’s 180 now. It definitely sucks for those trying to get residency positions. I pray that they are able to open up more for the students.

  • Cory

    They have grown exponentially, I know where I am the class will be at 250 in 2017. It’s 180 now. It definitely sucks for those trying to get residency positions. I pray that they are able to open up more for the students.

  • Cory

    I’m not tenured, and 99% of students who graduate from medical school have a job. I’m not sure what you mean by my students not having a job when they graduate. Most physicians do.

  • Cory

    I’m not tenured, and 99% of students who graduate from medical school have a job. I’m not sure what you mean by my students not having a job when they graduate. Most physicians do.

  • AwakenNow

    HELL NO. You need to get off the Ron Paul bandwagon – he is out of office and retired.

  • 1SkepticalChick

    I live in Ron Pauls District. There is nothing you could do to get me to vote for him. Take off the tin foil hat. It’s shorting out your brain.

  • 1SkepticalChick

    NYC has Nanny Bloomberg, it’s already a hellhole again.

  • 1SkepticalChick

    And here you are, in Texas. You’re welcome.

  • Secede

    You’re getting paid a lot by the DNC to post here, I take it ?

  • Cory

    How did wiki lie?

  • 1SkepticalChick

    The entire definition of liberalism.

  • Cory

    That would be nice if they paid me and if the RNC paid me also. Especially just to post on random blogs. I’d take it in a heartbeat.

  • DrSamHerman

    That’s dissembling, Cory. Most physicians have jobs only because they automatically go through the resident match program. That’s the only guarantee they have of a job following graduation. So it’s really a forced form of unemployment, as we both know that no physician will be able to be completely licensed to practice without residency training and the USMLEs.

    If you are not tenured, then you will be the first to go.

  • DrSamHerman

    Now you just lost me. Your credibility was just flushed down the tubes. No physician would ever quote Wikipedia because it is an open-sourced, unreliable reference.

    I don’t believe you are a physician or even a medical student, Cory. Your ignorance about the nature of debt, deficits and the fuzzy reliance on third parties (i. e. a university) to take care of you are quite uncharacteristic of physicians and medical students in general.

  • TexSizzle

    The fact that it is obsolete.

  • Cory

    I paid for my undergrad and medical school. I did have a scholarship for undergrad which helped, but I worked hard in high school so I was rewarded. I’ve paid back more loans than most of you on this thread so save the tears. There are cheaper ways of going to college. If you can’t afford UT don’t go. UT has many great satellites like UTArlington close to me. I paid my way through school with hard work without help from my parents, even though they did give me emotional support. Governors shouldn’t be trying to control colleges, the presidents should. When you have big government they always have an altruistic reason for being big, but in the end they mess it up. That’s my beef and I can’t believe you guys on this thread are supporting big government, even if its state. This proves my point that Dems and Repubs all want the same thing, power.

  • Cory

    Why would I move from home? Maybe you should move from your home.

  • Cory

    Governor shouldn’t be a strong arm position. Let the citizens govern themselves.

  • Cory

    You don’t like liberty?

  • Cory

    I didn’t know college professors were unionized. That’s a new one. I am the perfect example of personal responsibility. You’re the ones advocating for big government.

  • Hiraghm

    personal responsibility goes along with liberty. Not responsibility to a central authority, but responsibility to deal with the consequences of one’s choices and behavior.

    You define freedom differently than liberty?

  • Cory

    I’m not worried about employment, I have many colleagues in private practice who would hire me on the spot. If you’re unemployed as a physician, there has to be something seriously wrong with you because jobs are numerous especially in my field.

  • Cory

    That’s not my problem, I’m a physician, my students are physicians they’ll be fine. That’s what I worry about, and my family also. The unemployment rate for college grads is that high because college grads stop at a bachelors degree. That’s not enough in today’s tech world unless you’re in engineering, healthcare, sciences, education, etc. If you have a bachelors in art history, you should probably get a graduate degree. I know numerous people who’ve had no problems getting jobs after college, so maybe the 49% just aren’t good candidates. “If you don’t have a job, it’s your own fault.” -Herman Cain.

  • Cory

    I have a MBA, you’re point is?

  • Cory

    But you’re debt doesn’t continuously go up on your house, if it did you’d be forclosed.

  • Cory

    You’re welcome? Ma’am I’m a Texan born and raised. I’ll thank my mother for that.

  • DrSamHerman

    How convenient. You have an MBA, yet you can’t tell the difference between a deficit and debt? Not buying it Cory. Why would an MBA/DO use Wikipedia as a source? Both would know it’s not primary material.

  • DrSamHerman

    And what field is that? Primary care?

    I’m dual boarded, Cory, and every physician should have a real worry over declining reimbursements.

  • DrSamHerman

    You mean the way citizens “governed” themselves during the Rodney King riots? Or perhaps you haven’t lived in Texas long enough to remember the riots and protests around Austin in the 60s.

  • Billie Slash

    I appreciate your points, but please don’t presume you know the backgrounds, education, or financial status of the commentors here. You’re not the only person with an advanced degree.

  • Cory

    I can’t tell you that because it’d be easy to ID me but its not primary care. Even though there is declining reimbursements, I’m still okay right now. If you can’t live off of my salary then you have serious money issues. If it gets too bad out there I can just move to a cash/private insurance and be okay. I have backup plans good sir. My wife is already starting to transition to that model now in her practice.

  • V the K

    Any city, state, or nation run by liberals will eventually become a hellhole. It is an ironclad law of politics.

  • Cory

    I was born and raised here. I’m a full blooded Texan. Speak not on things of which you do not know.

  • TexSizzle

    Limited reading comprehension because of those union teachers in the public schools? He said the college professors are socialist/communist, not union.

  • TexSizzle

    The people who voted them in were Democratics; that’s why they voted for the Democratics running for office.

  • TexSizzle

    Liberal used to mean that until the classical conservatives hijacked the term in the 1920s and 1930s. Now that they call themselves liberals/progressives, they are trying to do the opposite of that.

  • Cory

    You can’t change a definition. If you start calling a dog a cat it’s not all of a sudden a cat, it’s still a dog. You can call a bike a car, but at the end if the day it’s still a bike.

  • Cory

    Not true, locally the cities are free willing do your own thing, but the governor isn’t statewide. America’s federal government is strong arm but a lot of states in the south are. It’s not mutually exclusive.

  • Hiraghm

    “Blood, whips, chains… or dollars. Take your choice; there is no other. And your time is running out” – Francisco D’Anconia, Atlas Shrugged

  • Hiraghm

    Specifically, UT jacks its price up, then students can’t afford to go there, so they do go somewhere else thats cheaper,

    Sounds like free market capitalism to me. What’s the problem?

  • Hiraghm

    Spoken like a true progressive.

  • Hiraghm

    ad hominem is not argument.

  • DrSamHerman

    I am hardly a progressive, Jim.

  • Hiraghm

    Well, the federal government was complicit in the collapse of the *American* automotive industry, in that we didn’t resume hostilities with Japan when Japan, Inc continued WWII on an economic front rather than military.

    We don’t really have an “American” auto industry anymore.

  • MarcusFenix

    If you have to ask that kind of question, you clearly don’t understand the problem it would create, or the issue at large. I’m going to have to say, that’s likely the dumbest response you could have levied. Not a personal attack, just an observation. Had you considered that statement, it’s possible you’d have not even responded at all.

    I can absolutely preface that most universities like this crank out liberal agenda and its bearers just as sure as I regularly take a crap. I think the system we have now, placing kids into college debt, is systemically flawed and badly in need of overhauling.That, aside, however…

    This type of public education should never be under the banner of a “free markets”. Private schools, I have no qualms with that being the case. Private institutions can charge what they want, within the constraints of what the market in their particular area will bear in congruence with the quality of the education provided. But when you begin to include post-secondary public education into a “free market”, regardless of how horrible public schools are or can be, you invite disaster.

    What you create is a system based on who has the most cash. Under your idea, some rich kid who slept through half of his classes and was mediocre at best will suddenly be elevated to college, simply because his family can write the biggest check. Some other kid, whose family isn’t as well off and can’t afford it, gets shafted, even if she has excellent grades and stellar test performance. This may seem like a slightly exaggerated example…but it’s one possibility under which a free market steps on those who cannot afford it, in lieu of those who can.

    In dissecting your retort, and using our example above…how long do you think it is before college tuition rates jump again, in order for administrators to cover the cost difference? They lower tuition to draw people in, but then jack it up when they’ve got their “customers” hooked…until those people can’t pay and are forced to leave.

    Again, it seems like an extreme example, but look how that process works in a free market. You have big box stores like Wal-mart, who crush local free markets, enterprises, and businesses, because they’ve got the cash. Anecdotal case in point: The local Ace Hardware affiliate closed down a few months ago, after having been in business for over 60 years, if i heard correctly, in Edinburg, VA. The cashier, as we were getting a few things before they closed, answered my question as to why they store was closing after so long….

    “Wal-mart. We just can’t compete.”

    Free markets don’t always have the best answer. They are fine in some cases, but they’re a myriad of problems in others. The last thing you should want is placing education in the hands of that system.