Darrell Issa: House Oversight Committee to depose Pickering and Mullen over Benghazi

Darrell Issa reports that the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, which he chairs, will depose Ambassador Thomas Pickering and Admiral Mike Mullen over Benghazi.


Darrell Issa says there was ‘clearly a political decision’ regarding Benghazi talking points

Whistleblower Greg Hicks on military being told to stand down: ‘They were furious’

Greg Hicks: I briefed Hillary on Benghazi that night; Clinton continued to blame video

Boom! Gregory Hicks: YouTube video was a ‘non-event in Libya’; Scapegoated filmmaker still in prison

Wow: Hicks ‘effectively demoted’ after questioning State; did Rep. Speier offer him a bribe?

  • CatHerder

    Serious question: If the CinC orders Adm. Mullen to clam up and Congress orders him to testify, who prevails?

    • Clayton Grant

      I have no doubt that Obama will invoke Executive Privilage soon to try and keep the truth from coming to light. Then Congress can issue a Contempt charge against him.

      • Jason Call

        Is Executive Privilege unassailable? He knows nothing, until the scandal gets to close to him; then, he suddenly knows too much? Does this logical fallacy carry weight in a contempt hearing?

        • Clayton Grant

          He invoked Exec Priv to protect Holder when he faced contempt charges over Fast & Furious, so I think he’ll do the same for Hillary. As for the weight it carries, that all comes down to the 2014 elections.

          • Billie Slash

            Yes, but is it Constitutional for Obama to invoke Exec. Priv. on behalf of people other than himself?? Doesn’t smell right….

          • Clayton Grant

            It’s not an explicit part of the Constitution, but part of the separation of powers. All he has to do is lay claim to any documents created under his administration and seal them under EP. Also, it’s important to note that any executive in his administration has this power. For instance, SoS Kerry could invoke it for certain State Dept documents.

      • angeleyez

        Hillary has already said that she is responsible for Benghazi.
        Will Obama take steps to protect her 2016 chances ?

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          ha ha, doubtful

        • nc

          Remember also he said “if anyone wants to go after Susan Rice they have to go through me.”

          So, go get him.

    • kch50428

      That would be an unlawful order – and any member of the military worth their salt would disregard the order, as they are only required by UCMJ to follow lawful orders.

      • CatHerder

        That was my thought too, but I haven’t had any luck pinning it down one way or another.

      • http://chicagoboyz.net/ TMLutas

        Whether it is lawful or unlawful to order a member of the military, Mullen’s retired since 2011.

    • http://chicagoboyz.net/ TMLutas

      Admiral Mullen retired in 2011 from the military. He is admiral by courtesy these days and holds no current place in the military. Obama may not order him to do anything by virtue of him being CinC.

      • CatHerder

        Good to know, thanks.

      • Stu

        That’s not entirely accurate. Once you accept a commission in the military, you are subject to recall until the day you die. Further, Flag Officers when retired, especially at that level, are often still “on call” in a manner of speaking. They retain their clearances and are consulted.

        • GaryTheBrave

          But the previous comments regarding unlawful orders still apply.

          • Stu


        • http://chicagoboyz.net/ TMLutas

          Admiral Mullen hit mandatory retirement age as per 10 USC § 1253 last October. For him to get called back, there would have to be a declaration of some sort of national security need/emergency as per DOD directive 1352.1. Obama would have to give him a job to do and what might that job be? This is a theoretical possibility that would be a practical political disaster. It would essentially wave a flag that said “impeach me, Benghazi’s real and I did a major coverup and am currently abusing a retired admiral just to keep him quiet”.

          Can you imagine a circumstance where that would be worth the effort? I cannot which is why I put that down with the idea that my state military draft is going to get activated and put me in uniform. Absent TEOTWAWKI it’s just not happening.

          • Stu

            I’m just refining your statement a bit (based upon my experience). In fact, as recent as ten years agao most of the three and four stars continued to receive full pay. It would not be uncommon when I worked at the Pentagon to brief a retired Four Star on classified material to prepare him for some manner of engagement with either Congress or the media (though in the latter it was obviously just background).

          • Stu

            So I should add, I’m not disagreeing with your overall sentiment. Just illuminating things a bit.

    • 2ifbyT

      If he is subpeonaed, Congress wins. CinC ordering him not to talk is an illegal order because it violates the Separation of Powers clause of the Constitution.


    Stellar! We The People Are On A Fact Finding Mission…Truth…before, during, after. American Bloodhounds we have to be.

    • $4356589

      Keep calling yourselves “bloodhounds,” it reveals your true motivations.

      • Billie Slash

        Don’t be an ass.

        These murdered patriots were your fellow Americans. Every citizen should be concerned, and want to know the truth about why they were killed unnecessarily.

        God help you if you’re really that soulless.

  • Frankie Lee

    Americans are so stupid to elect Obama,and choose Hillary Clinton.

    • $4356589

      That’s a pretty stupid sentence.

  • DJR

    Why can’t the POTUS be subpeoned to appear?

  • June Clinkenbeard

    I don’t foresee them adding much except perhaps getting them on the record for all the people involved who were NOT interviewed. Pickering seemed very defensive on TV yesterday and tried to explain himself but it seems the investigation as sorely lacking. Nothing short of Hillary Clinton testifying will satisfy me.

    • Billie Slash

      Agree, June. However, I don’t think Pickering was deposed under oath. It seems to me that he, and several others, were merely “interviewed”. They need to go on the official record, where there is a penalty for lying.

      • June Clinkenbeard

        Definitely. If they aren’t under oath then what’s the point? Pickering and Patrick Kennedy were both in the State Dept and interviewed after the 1998 bombings of our embassies happened in Africa. Go back and read that ARB.

        What lessons were learned & forgotten since 1998? Admiral Bobby R. Inman, USN (Ret.), Chaired a commitee tasked with analyzing security and recommending improvements (See The Inman Report. http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/inman/) However, the historical tension between diplomacy and security is an overarching issue. You can see the results in Benghazi. Looking back might be beneficial but realistically assessing the threats now is an imperative.

        ARB for 1998 Bombings

        ARB for Benghazi – http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf

  • June Clinkenbeard

    I don’t foresee them adding much except perhaps getting them on the record for all the people involved who were NOT interviewed. Pickering seemed very defensive on TV yesterday and tried to explain himself but it seems the investigation as sorely lacking. Nothing short of Hillary Clinton testifying will satisfy me.