Ka-POW! Ace, others smack Scarborough for pushing bogus ’90 percent’ statistic

As Twitchy reported, “Barack Obama” has vowed to keep fighting on behalf of the fabled “90 (or 91 or 92) percent” of Americans who want stricter gun control laws. He can rest easy knowing that a guy like Joe Scarborough stands behind him:

Serious, you guys.

Yeah. Almost as stubborn as MSNBC hacks who insist on pushing faulty statistics!

Ace of Spades wasn’t about to let Joe get away with it:

It’s true, you know. Back when he was Rep. Joe Scarborough, he was a gun rights advocate.

Amazing how that works, isn’t it?

Other happy warriors couldn’t wait to get in on the epic schooling:

Hey Joe, where you goin’ with those dubious poll numbers in your hand?

Facts are stubborn, Joe. And for you, they’re also hard.

That’s according to a recent Gallup poll. And a Washington Post – Pew poll found that 39 percent of Americans were happy or relieved that the Senate’s gun control push failed. Care to comment, Joe? We didn’t think so.

Oh, snap!

A parting thought for Mr. Scarborough:

  • http://apostrophejones.com/ Gloves Donahue, Jr.

    Morning Joe gets his news in the MSNBC locker room and from Al Sharpton when they ride to the fashion mart together.

    • marcellucci

      Yes….he poses as a human bidet…..

    • Elaine

      They read the gossip rag Mother Jones online every morning, too. 😉

  • V the K

    92% of Morning Joe’s audience (17 people) think Joe Scarborugh is actually Chandler from ‘Friends,’ only whinier and less butch.

    • aegean1

      He WISHES he could be Chandler. Really, he’s Mr. Heckles.

      • Emily B

        Or Gunther.

    • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

      Didn’t he used to be Punky Brewster?

      • CatHerder

        Or punked?

      • CatHerder

        Or punked?

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        Unless he changed his name from Soleil Moon-Frye, I don’t think so, Tug. =

    • https://twitter.com/davidjkramer DavidKramer

      I am thinking naked fat guy across the street.

    • Elaine

      That 75% in NH is total BS! We have so many gun enthusiasts here. HAHA 75% is probably number against gun control! I bet the survey by liberals was worded “Do you think there should be background checks on people who buy guns?” without another option and I bet it was taken a week after Newtown in Democrat county?

      • kobrien674

        I can word just about any poll to get the outcome I want. If the questions are skewed the outcome is skewed accordingly. Easy. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist, as Joe proves.

    • http://twitter.com/BrianPHovland Brian H (wackobird)

      Are the 17 people 92% of his audience, or, is the total audience 17 people from which we need to subtract 8%? Just wondering. Is his audience REALLY that big???

      • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

        90% of those 17 people are asleep when his show is on because they left their TV on from the night before.

  • angeleyez

    Somebody tell Joe that we already have a background check and
    Obama is NOT enforcing our current laws. Joe’s lies hurt only himself.
    Did Joe evolve into a Marxist Progressive when he leaned forward
    to grab his check ?
    ▲ YES ▼ NO

  • $24698634

    I’m not a fan of Joe (Lori Klausutis) but I saw the WaPo poll a couple weeks ago with the 90% support number, if that’s what he’s talkling about. It was specifically about expanded background checks and support was indeed 90%. A different poll asked about how important an issue it was, and that number was considerably smaller. So if Joe is sourcing from WaPo poll about expanding background checks, he is correct.

    • journogal

      If this is the same poll, it only sampled 1,500.

      • $24698634

        That’s what polls do, sample.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marcy-Cook/1001619613 Marcy Cook

      And why should we trust the WaPo polls?

      • $24698634

        Not saying we should.  Just saying that if that’s what Joe S was referring to, he was right when he said 90%.

    • camnpat

      Not only that, but what matters is how the question is phrased too. If a pollster calls or stops you on the street and asks “do you support background checks?” I bet I can get 90% percent of the people both from gun owners and uninformed people who believe there are currently none.

      The issue is that these numbers get thrown around without context and good ol’ Joe just does what so many in the administration like to do: throw out poll numbers as they fit their narrative without talking about the finer details such as what question was asked and how, what’s the breakdown of the poll sample, and establishing the baseline of how informed (or not) those polled know are about the issue.

      • $24698634

        A poll is just a snapshot.  This particular snapshot polled at 90% support for expanded background checks.  I’m sure many other polls have been done since, with differently worded questions asked and different results.

    • Michelle

      Here’s the thing about polls – they aren’t accurate and neither do they reflect reality. Here’s an example of how polls aren’t a true picture.

      On Tuesday, Rasmussen Reports posted the results of a poll about labeling for genetically modified food. They telephone polled 1,000 people and based on their answers, Rasmussen apparently determined and reported that, “73% of American adults” think the Government should require special labeling on modified food (see survey here: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/april_2013/73_favor_labels_for_genetically_modified_food)

      I saw that and it caught my attention because I immediately doubted that figure. The reason I doubted that figure is because just this past Nov. we had this exact issue on our ballot here in CA – requiring special labels on modified food. Prop. 37 – it failed. 12 million people voted on the measure and it didn’t pass because only 48% were in favor, the majority not in favor.

      So which figure do you think is more accurate and a true representation:

      1. A telephone survey of 1,000 that found 73% in favor of the idea.
      2. Actual votes cast by 12,000,000 people that proved only 48% were in favor?

      I’m going with #2 as being the true figure since in my world, 12M trumps 1K. So there’s that – solid proof that surveys of a handful of people really, truly don’t speak for all of Americans.

      • kobrien674

        True, though I have to say the votes of Californians don’t speak for all Americans either. See, you did it too.

        • Michelle

          No, I actually didn’t say Californians speak for all Americans and I’m sorry you missed the point of my example. My point was, entities take polls of 1,000-1,500 people and then report the results as speaking for all Americans. I pointed out how inaccurate that method is because here we had a legit poll of 12 million people that showed a mighty different figure. Never said the results that happened here in CA spoke for all of America, never even implied it. I was comparing how when you poll only 1,000, you don’t get a true figure and certainly one that doesn’t speak for all of America and I proved that point by explaining how that figure dropped by almost 30% when 12 million were polled.

          So you understand, the only poll results I believe speak for all Americans are the results that come from every American being polled.

      • $24698634

        Interesting anecdote but still doesn’t negate the WaPo poll as there was no equivalent actual vote in that case.  Who knows, maybe the results would have been similar to what the poll found.  I’m not sure your case proves anything beyond your case.

        • Michelle

          Thank you for letting me know you entirely missed the point. Take care.

    • TocksNedlog

      He correctly quoted an inaccurate number. Great!

      • $24698634

        What number was innaccurate?

    • kobrien674

      Again, I can word just about any poll to get the outcome I want. If the questions are skewed the outcome is skewed accordingly. Easy. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist, which Joe demonstrates.

      • $24698634

        Skewed is not the issue.  You can say that about any poll.  The issue is whether Joe used bogus numbers.  And if the WaPo poll is his source, then the answer is no he didn’t because that’s what that poll showed.  I’m sure you can find another poll that skews it in a way you prefer.

  • muckraker

    A tree is 90% air. A golf ball hits the other 10% 90% of the time.

  • alanstorm

    Facts are certainly stubborn things.

    Unfortunately for Joe and his allies, polls are not facts.

  • Zefal

    110% of the people think this poll is legit. Pass it along.

  • $496051

    The poll wasn’t about the bill. It was based on a hypothetical that isn’t on the table in reality.

  • NY2DC

    I noticed that Joe didn’t respond to anyone asking for a citation on those numbers. That’s Joe Scarborough for you! He lives and dies in his own mind and he cowers like a 4 year old girl when anyone challenges his nonsense. The man is chicken shit! Also, I imagine that most of you who replied to his tweets are now blocked from his twitter account. That’s how he operates. He can’t stand on his own two feet. If you aren’t nodding along in agreement, you can’t be in his presence.

  • ceemack

    In Scarborough’s case, I think it’s more like #90IQ.

  • Kingofthehill

    Check out the hack in his glory. When he takes off his glasses you know he’s serious! LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jVf8i3w7lw

  • Kingofthehill

    Nevermind the “Bill” people were being polled on changed 5 different times and 3 different sponsors from when it was polled to the final bill. They are so full of crap lol

  • Kevin Scott

    It’s funny how closely Libs cling to the rights of the majority (in this case, an imaginary majority) except in issues of race, sexual orientation, gender, etc.


    Yeah Joe facts are stubborn, here Deal With These Obama Facts:

    …“It is this world, a world where cruise ships
    throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a

    where white folks’ greed runs a world in need,

    apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another

    That’s the world! On which hope sits!”-Barack

    “Dreams From My Father” page 158 of
    235 PDF Form

  • Jimni27

    95% in Pa is RIDONCULOUS. They must have just polled the Philly burbs or something. And aren’t these stats from ONE Wapo/ ABC poll?

  • Daniel Medicis

    Cancel your cable today and stop paying your money to Joe Scarborough and that scowling, wretched, miserable woman who sits next to him. You can live without zombies, sports, and Kardashians. Call your cable company now!

  • gjsmith_62

    Must be the water at MSLSD or libtardism is contagious. BS polls are just that, BS.

    Too bad Joe will never wake up to reality, 2012 … more murders in Chicago (over 500) than all of Connecticut (102 ). But don’t let real facts get in the way of a power-grabbing narrative.

  • Ryan

    99.6% of TV viewers don’t watch Joe Scarborough.

  • Ryan

    99.6% of TV viewers don’t watch Joe Scarborough.

  • CatHerder

    90% of us in Texas think he’s 100% full to the eyebrows. The other 10% are going “Joe Who?

  • CatHerder

    90% of us in Texas think he’s 100% full to the eyebrows. The other 10% are going “Joe Who?

  • jb

    I was surprised the # Joe cited was not 99%….. you know not the 1%.

  • Mark81150

    He’s another Judas Goat.. selling us all out for his paycheck.

  • ToyZebra

    According to a recent poll, 92% want to see Joe Scarorough dress in a pink tutu and wrestle a grizzly bear.

  • $6565218

    I think the numbers were inverted. There is no way that many in North Dakota supported that bill, let alone TX.

  • longranger

    We need to keep on our state reps to not support any new gun bs because they will be coming hard at us again real soon.Call asap and often.

  • kobrien674

    “75% in NH. 79% Texas. 87% SC1. 91% Virginia. 94% NJ. 94% ND. 95% PA.”

    I can word just about any poll to get the outcome I want. If the questions are skewed the outcome is skewed accordingly. Easy.

  • J.N. Ashby

    Interesting that 75% NH statistic…a state with open carry and very little gun laws…

  • TruDat

    If 90% are in favor of universal background checks why not make them voluntary? They’ll have 90% compliance right out of the chute.

  • Ed Warden

    He should be called Joe SCABBOROUGH . He is has always be a TRAITOR TO AMERICA. Did any of these ELITIST who dodged the draft years ago ever do anything including FIGHTING IN THE TRENCHES IN A FOREIGN LAND TO PROTECT OUR REPUBLIC? NO! THEY WERE AND ARE A BUNCH OF COWARD TRAITORS.