Schooling with truth and civil discourse: Michelle Malkin, Jose Vargas tweet-talk illegal immigration

Fascinating, indeed. It is a must-read conversation. But, how did this conversation come about?

As Twitchy reported, the Associated Press caved to political correctness and open borders bullies by dropping “illegal immigrant” from its Stylebook. Twitchy founder Michelle Malkin wrote more about it today.

Just look at the ABC News coverage of the AP’s decision. “Journalist” Cristina Costantini praised the move and patted her own colleagues on the back for their progressivism. “Fusion, the ABC-Univision joint venture, does not use ‘illegal immigrant’ because we believe it dehumanizes those it describes and we find it to be linguistically inaccurate.” On her Twitter account, “journalist” Costantini gushed that AP’s capitulation came “thanks to the hard work of great people like @joseiswriting.”

“@joseiswriting” is Jose Antonio Vargas, the former Washington Post reporter who spearheaded the whitewashing of our language and our laws on behalf of illegal aliens. In 2011, with great fanfare and elite media sympathy, Vargas publicly declared himself an “undocumented immigrant.” Except, as he himself confessed, Vargas had documents coming out of his ears — including a fake passport with a fake name, a fake green card and a Social Security card his grandfather doctored for him at a Kinko’s.

Jose Antonio Vargas (@joseiswriting) tweeted to Malkin this afternoon.

Heh. Dana Vachon is a Whiner McWhinerson, as Twitchy readers know.

They decided not to wait for dinner, as yummy as the proposed dinner sounded. The conversation took place sans food … on Twitter. Guess what? Honest and blunt conversation can also be civil. Who’d have thunk it?!

Don’t believe us? Read their full exchange, including some input from fellow Twitter users.

Blunt, honest, civil and compelling. That’s what truth is!

We like it, too. Honesty, for the win. And the civility is beyond refreshing.

  • Maxx

    After reading this entire piece, I’m left with the impression that Michelle has four fingers flailing on Twitter, the other four hammering a keyboard while toe tapping on a tablet at the same time she’s prepping for a Hannity appearance. And in the middle of all this madness, raising a family.

    Conservative women continue to amaze me. Modern day Spartans battling an entire army of liberal media who insult them at every turn.

    Rock on Michelle and FWIW, when Vargas tweets “Undocumented people like me want a process to become legalized,” well…there is a process…and you avoided it.

    • radicallyalyssa

      That was awesome!

    • Ben Bollman

      Yep, that is one of the best exchanges I’ve seen on Twitter. She destroyed his argument with facts and nothing but the facts.

    • cherie bone

      I love this comment. Not all of us battle the liberal media, but we all have That Group of People we know. Good pt at the end of comment too. Again: love.

  • Dave Suchy

    this is not a threat in any way shape or form, to make a threat one must be able to follow it up with actions. I believe that according to the US Constitution I could legally view Mr Vargas as an invader. And by shooting him dead in the street I would be in accordance with the vow I took when I joined the US Air Force to protect my country and uphold the Constitution. I dont know of ANY country with open borders, and when he came here without following our laws, he gave himself invader status. Let’s go along with the AP and stop calling them Illegal Immigrants and call them what they are HOSTILE ECONOMIC INVADERS.

    • Leon Bonifacio

      did we just get 14 likes from a guy says he would shoot a fellow human being dead? sad state of U.S. affairs

      • Dave Suchy

        its called national security, if we keep allowing invaders to walk in, who’s to say they wont turn on us, and take up arms against us. I dont know where you live but I see the hatred in their faces on a regular basis. If you or I were to enter some other countries illegally, they would label us as invaders and kill us dead, to loud applause I might add.

  • Brian H (wackobird)

    So… exchange is a pic of this…….documentally challenged individual mocking us by posing with an enforcement vehicle…..yep, loves this country!

  • Joseph A White

    I remember when I was in school, and a kid would cut into the line at the cafeteria, he/she got sent to the BACK of the line. If they missed out on lunch as a result, tough. This is no different. Jose’, there IS a process for becoming a legal resident. You need to go home to your own country and apply for permission to enter the U.S. legally, and wait your turn. That is the law, and that is how it has always been and always should be. The law is not “broken”…It has merely been ignored and violated by you and your fellow “Illegal Immigrants”…..

    • aegean1

      Yes, that kept irritating me, that he demands a process to legalize. There IS a process, but you chose to skip around it!

      • Canadian in USA

        Excellent point.

    • nc

      So simple, yet so ignored…

    • TomJB

      After having waited a long time and spent thousands of dollars for my wife’s visa while she was pregnant in the Philippines with a child that it turns out would need extensive medical care immediately after birth (she got out about 15 days before she would not be able to fly, thank God), I have no sympathy whatsoever with those who cut the line. Even being a priority case (applicant married to a citizen) it was one of the most stressful times of my life. Does the process need to be reformed? Absolutely, but not how Mr Vargas wants. He needs to be allowed to leave the US unmolested and apply for a visa just like everyone else back at the US embassy in his home country. If he had done this at the beginning, he would already be here and his situation moot.

    • Gewi

      Let me begin by saying that I am an american citizen before anything else. I came to this country in the later part of 1999 to work as a computer programmer coming from the Philippines through a work visa. I stayed here legally and went through the process of getting my permanent residency(Green Card) through my employer in Michigan. I was able to bring my wife to America where she started reviewing for the dental boards of California beginning 2000 to 2004. My green card process started around the year 2003 and it was filed through the old outdated system of immigration(not electronic). According to our estimation, if approved I would have gotten my green card seven years after(2010) for as long as I don’t get LAID OFF from work. My wife applied for a separate green card through her employer around 2005 so that we would have two applications running at the same time. Who ever gets to the finish line first, gets to save our family. The new system for green card processing was just started weeks before my wife’s application. Three months after my wife’s application, her green card was approved year 2006. Having placed me as her spouse in the application I also got approved. This was 2006 and my green card application filed in Michigan was still lumbering through the old system. After $20,000.00 in lawyer fees and 3 yrs of waiting, was it worth it? YES! Is the system broken? In my opinion, YES! I don’t think people who are watching from the sidelines can actually say that the system is broken. Ask the people who went through it and they would tell you it is. There are thousands of families still lumbering in that old system. There are children in that old system that will not be eligible for a green card for the simple fact that they turned 18 before their parents green card was approved. When immigration started using the electronic processing, it did speed up the process. But it did not change the underlying rules. New system broken rules. I have nothing against these people whom you say are cutting in line because they were not in mine or in yours. For these people, there is no “BACK OF THE LINE.” It’s not as easy as how the GOP says. They are lost and our draconian system of immigration needs to be fixed.

  • CommieJuice

    Sooper made the best points. The bottom line is this illegal does want special treatment, he lives for it and demands it from anyone who will listen. Jose said he wanted to sincerely hear the views of others on this issue, yet he spends his life as a victim, decrying anyone who says illegal is being a racist. He doesn’t want to hear anything besides “poor Jose” and be showered with accolades and thanks. Every single bass ackwards liberal cliche on illegals, borders and humanity was spewed by this loser. I have no sympathy for someone breaking the law while screaming how unfair life is because instead of going back outside, knocking on the door, he enters without knocking and without invitation, but expects to be treated like a welcomed guest.

  • TJ

    When great minds finally solve this problem they lay out they will then be able to solve what happens if they ever remove drug laws and what to do with the jails full of people for drug crimes.

    They are not smoking illegal crack they are just smoke undocumented unprescribed unlicensed unregulated chemical which one should face no punishment when they use it if their goal is to make crack legal for all crack users to use.

  • Canadian in USA

    I am so glad to see a civil discussion on Twitter between people with different viewpoints, and that the person I disagree with call out those who would use foul language or name calling. I have to give Mr. Vargas props for that – it’s not very often you see that happen.
    However, that’s as far as my praise goes as he seems to be wanting a special process for his case and those who are here illegally. Those of us who followed/are following the rules end up having to wait and pay out of our own pockets – in the end, we will be the ones who get shafted with any sort of Shamnesty bill. Yes, this was created by both parties in government (a shame on both of them), but, as my mother always taught me, two wrongs don’t make it right. As much as I can understand why people come to this country, those who are here illegally broke the law and, as such, must pay for it. There are a number of legal processes to become a citizen of the United States – all they have to do is find out how.

  • ZoriahShepard

    I know this is Malkin’s web site but Jose’s exchange with @SooperMexican was and is worth going back to read.

  • The Left Is Evil

    That guy is a joke —> @joseiswriting
    He is an Illegal….Period….And the worst of all, is that he make fun of the System…He is a clown…

    • Spatial Awareness

      He is a criminal… <==#FixedIt ~_^

  • 3seven77

    The guy is not an “immigrant”. He’s an ILLEGAL. He’s a squatter. He’s the proverbial houseguest that never leaves.

    • Laurel

      After sneaking in the back door uninvited.

      • Brown Eminence

        He was invited-got a visa like Michelle’s parents only thing was he was a child at the time. He should have knocked up a chick and used the resulting kid as an anchor to stay-like Michelle’s, Bobby’s, and Nikki’s parents.

        • Laurel

          Shut up stupid. He wasn’t invited to over stay. It was planned by his lying family.

  • Clayton Grant

    Proponents of amnesty programs for illegal immigrants say they only take on jobs Americans are unwilling to do. You know … like come up with an immigration policy.

  • Catchance

    Oh, here we go with the ad hominem attacks. Michelle Malkin’s parents were here legally on a Visa and she is the least self-hating person I can imagine. If you want to enter into a discussion, come up with some facts or ideas. The problem for you is that the facts are simple: we have rules, he broke them, as did all of the other illegals in the country, who, btw, send the majority of the money they earn back to their home country. They don’t want to become Americans by learning about the United States and what it stands for, about our rule of law. They don’t want to learn English. They simply want the benefits they get by living here. Instead, they scam the IRS and get monies for children who aren’t even theirs.

    • sharinite

      In fairness America has become a land where laws are not enforced, broken hourly and no authority can stop it…we get robbed, maimed, killed and the cops can’t do a thing…..

    • Brown Eminence

      Michelle Malkin follows a hypocritical view on immigration. She has a particular obsession with “anchor babies”. Merriam-Webster defines anchor babies as “a baby born in the United States to non-citizen parents (Michelle’s parents); esp.: a baby whose U.S. citizenship potentially provides a means to citizenship for other family members.” She is adamant that the laws that allow foreign parents of American-born children to gain citizenship should be changed immediately. Several months prior to Malkin’s birth, her parents had immigrated to the United States on an employer-sponsored visa, very conveniently timed I might add, if I was cynical I would think her parents applied for a U.S. visa the moment they found out about the pregnancy. In other words, Michelle Malkin is the typical anchor baby (like fellow “anchor babies” Piyush Jindal and Nikki Haley). That is why I referred to her as a “self hating anchor baby”.

      • KayGee

        Shush please, nobody here wants to talk about this funny double standard, you low-info liberal, you!
        After all, if we ended the whole citizenship-by-birth or “drive-by-citizenship” as it’s referred to on the blog link below, wouldn’t it mean that any child born to parents here on work visas (or any foreigners, tourists, non-citizens, etc) after the fact would no longer be entitled to automatic citizenship just because they were born in the USA? Some truly fascinating stuff right here!

      • Catchance

        You are certainly welcome to believe what you want about Michelle… you may even be right about her parents’ intentions. But while they were in the United States with Visas they were ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ and fall under the 14th Amendment. Those who cross the border illegally are not.

        • Brown Eminence

          Yes I have no problem with Michelle’s. Bobby JIndal’s or Nikki Haleys parents, and what they did. What I am pointing out is the hypocrisy of Michelle Malkin on anchor babies. BTW Piyush “Bobby” Jindal came to America in utero which means he came to America as a child- I am using y’all’s definition of children (life begins at conception) Jose Antonio Vargas also came here as child on a visa yet he is illegal scum?!?

          • Catchance

            Hmmm… you know, I may be an “ignorant moron”, as you so kindly pointed out, but I don’t believe I’ve ever used the word “scum” in connection with Mr. Vargas, nor do I think it. In fact, with the exception of sex traffickers, rapists, and drug dealers, I would never refer to, or think of, any of those who are here illegally as “scum”. The “illegal” part, though…. yeah.

            As far as your assertion that being carried in the womb would mean that Michelle and Bobby were children when they came here, you know you’re being disingenuous. Certainly we who are pro-life believe that life begins at conception… that’s life, not birth. The 14th Amendment specifically says “All persons BORN or NATURALIZED. That leaves out Jose Antonio Vargas. He came here when he was 12; his parents never tried to do it legally, and in fact he got here and through school using fraudulent documents. He knew he was illegal, but instead of trying to go back and do it correctly, which would have meant many years, he decided to be an activist. Even now he’s not willing to take the time to do it legally… he’s appealing to bleeding hearts to let him stay. Those same bleeding hearts couldn’t care less about the other naturalized citizens who wanted to be Americans so much that they did take the time to do it legally while people like Jose skipped to the front of the line.

          • Brown Eminence

            I didn’t call you an ignorant moron-you have been civil so why should I go all hostile. My point is why should Jose be punished so severely for the crimes of his mother? Last time I checked juveniles were punished with different sentences compared to adults. Also how can he go back to the Philippines and apply again-the immigration dept would ban him permanently due to his mom’s crime of not obtaining authorization for him to stay in the country permanently. Sorry but it is not all black and white when people’s lives and home are at stake. Also I never said Bobby, and Michelle were children, the Republican person hood bill says that and my point was Jose was also a child when he came here. Like I said my problem with Michelle is her holier than thou attitude knowing her parents cynically took advantage of the 14th amendment. She should recuse herself from this issue due to conflict of interest. Speaking of taking advantage of immigration laws look up Wendy Deng. Deng met an American businessman and his wife, Jake and
            Joyce Cherry, who had temporarily relocated to China to help build a refrigerator factory. Deng asked the couple for tutoring lessons in English, which Joyce eventually provided. In 1988, she abandoned her medical studies and traveled to the United States to study, with the Cherrys sponsoring Deng’s student visa. Upon her arrival to the United States, Deng briefly lived with Jake and Joyce Cherry and attended university. Joyce Cherry discovered her husband
            Jake was having an affair with Deng, who was 30 years his junior, and demanded she leave the house. Jake Cherry soon followed and moved in with her, and the two married in 1990. Deng and Cherry’s
            marriage lasted 2 years and 7 months before they were legally divorced, but he would later explain they only stayed together for 4 or 5 months, after which he learned of the affair Deng had with David Wolf, a man closer to her age. Nonetheless,she had been able to secure a green card through her marriage to Cherry. So this guy basically confesses to immigration fraud yet Michelle Malkin doesn’t go after Deng? Why is that? Is it because Deng is now married to Rupert Murdoch owner of Fox News and Michelle’s boss? See you lot just persecute the weak and powerless without checking your own house.

          • Catchance

            Oh, sorry… it was “illiterate moron”. And you’re right. It wasn’t you, it was another person answering my response to you, in which I mistakenly believed that Mr. Vargas was from Mexico. (You did agree with him, however…rather smugly, in fact. Seemingly I should have known who Jose Antonio Vargas is, but this is the first I’ve heard of him. If that makes me an illiterate moron, so be it.)

            You know, it really may not seem fair to you that Mr. Vargas is being “punished” for his mother’s deceit, but to my view he isn’t being punished at all. He’s lived here and received all the benefits of this country. He hasn’t been jailed or deported and, let’s face it, the likelihood of that happening is slim to zero. He also could very well go back and apply for citizenship. Not only would it not be blocked, but this administration would fall on him with tears of gratitude. But that won’t even need to happen because this amnesty is going through, and you’ll all hail it as a blow for democracy. (I would like to add that Mr. Vargas may not have known that his papers were fraudulent when he came over, but he surely did later.

            That was a very long and convoluted story you just shared, but if I understand you correctly, Michelle is a hypocrite; first, because she herself is an “anchor baby” yet she is against anchor babies in principle, and second, because she has not mentioned Wendy Deng (a Chinese woman who slept her way into becoming a citizen) because Wendy is married to Rupert Murdoch now, who is the owner of Fox News and Michelle’s boss. Have I got that correct?

            (I might mention here that Michelle is a Fox News contributor, not an actual employee of Fox News.)

            First, Michelle’s parents came to the U.S. with every intention of staying, which they did. They did not send her from the Philippines as a child with fake papers to live with relatives while they stayed there. Second, why the heck should Michelle be interested in Wendy Deng’s machinations? She’s not the one asking for amnesty.

          • Brown Eminence

            Bottom line Michelle, Piyush Jindal and Nikki Halley attack the 14th amendment but are products of it- Hypocrites
            Fox News, Wall Street Journal editorials,and NY Post attack green card marriages but their owner is married to a person who committed immigration fraud by said marriages. No one in those so called news organizations mentioned it.-Selective outrage and hypocrisy by right wingers.
            Michelle Malkin reminds me of Clayton Bigsby from the Chappelle Show: the black Klan member who hates black people only difference she is an anchor baby who hates anchor babies.

    • Brown Eminence

      “They don’t want to become Americans by learning about the United States
      and what it stands for, about our rule of law. They don’t want to learn

      So I guess that was Swahili Jose Antonio Vargas was communicating in?!

      • carla5731

        Fluency in English is the exception, not the rule, among illegal immigrants.

      • Catchance

        Jose is an exception as far as speaking English… in fact, he seems to be an exception in many areas to the majority of those who are here illegally. (I see them daily where I work, so yes, I do know what I’m talking about.) He certainly doesn’t understand the Rule of Law (but then, most liberals don’t, either). I wonder if he belongs to La Raza? Probably not, as he is too civil. But perhaps he espouses their cause? I wonder if he believes that the Mexican flag belongs above the flag of the United States of America? I see a completely different face of illegals than that of Jose. I see people who are so desperate to come that they will break the law because their own country (which has the richest man in the world) will do nothing for them. Do I feel compassion? Yes. But we cannot take them all in… we no longer have the money. Instead of trying to let them all be citizens ahead of those who went by the rules, try working with the real problem… their own country.

        The whole point is that it doesn’t matter how nice he is, or how well he speaks English. He broke the law, he came in ahead of others who followed the law, and he needs to go to the back of the line and start over, just like the kids in the lunch line who try to cut in ahead of others.

        • Luke Givens

          He’s from the Philippines you illiterate moron. Why the hell do you think he and Malkin were talking about cooking Filipino dishes.

          • Catchance

            Oh, I am sorry. I didn’t know who he was, nor did I even think about the cooking. Well, then, as Emily Litella would say, “Never mind.” At least as far as that goes.

            However, the main point remains the same. It doesn’t matter how nice he is or where he is from, or what he does. He broke the law. The rules are there; he chose not to follow them.

          • Brown Eminence

            Lol thanks Luke. I was waiting for Catchance to call dude Mexican but you beat me to it. The fact is he came to the US from the Philippines-yes that is right he came here through the front door just like Michelle’s parents. He was a child when he came here and unbeknownst to him his family did not tell him his visa expired. He only found out when he applied for a drivers license.

  • jb

    joes is delusional. We can live without those workers. But here’s my solution:
    1. First, govt of Mexico has to fess up: they are a failed nation (when 1 out of 7 of your citizens has crossed the border in the last 20 yrs, it is not a success — it is a failure of its social, economic, anpolitcal norms).

    2. 40% tax on all money transfers to Mexico. (It’s a tax — Dems will love it)
    3. Mexico must give us 1 barrel of oil per month per illegal Mexican FREE. Call it a barter system: our healthcare/schools/etc. for their oil.

    4. US citizens should have as many rights as the illegal Mexican. For the next 5 years any middle class American should be given a tax amnesty if they so desire.

    Now, that’s fair.

    • Wigglesworth

      That is the only tax California won’t consider. Too bad because they could bring in $750 million per year in revenue. Oklahoma passed a law taxing foreign wire transfers to Mexico and the Mexican government threatened them. They also complained to Obama.

  • jetch

    how does he speak for 11 million illegals?? he says they all want to work and contribute. that’s not been my experience. sure there are many that are hard working and looking for a better life, but there is a very large number that just wants free stuff. you can’t ignore that.

  • Wigglesworth

    Real immigration reform would include the following:
    1. A robust double wall security perimeter covering hundreds of miles of unprotected border
    2. Mandated interior enforcement linked to states receiving federal funds.
    3. Expedited deportation process, elimination of abused loopholes
    4. Redefine “public charge” to include food stamps and medicaid. Immigrants are disqualified from a visa renewal or green card if they access welfare benefits.
    5. Implement various workplace enforcement provisions
    6. 1% foreign wire transfer tax on remittances to Mexico(Oklahoma has one already)
    7. Limit chain migration to nuclear family. Revamp lottery system to favor highly educated immigrants.

  • radicallyalyssa

    As many smarties mentioned, Jose is ignoring the fact that there IS already a way to become a legal citizen; they just don’t want to go that route because it takes time and money.

    My mother that was raised in Italy went through the process, and now she’s an American. Why can’t these eleven million ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS do the same?

  • sharinite

    Had to have a hate monger elite of the progressive aka democrat nee marxist variety…..go away hater…who needs your trash talk.

  • Laurel

    Let me guess…you are here illegally.

    • Brown Eminence

      No, I am an Indian passport holder who lived in Arkansas for 15 years (college and work). I just moved to New Zealand with my wife because I wanted my son to be born a New Zealander (like his mom). I could have gone the route of Michelle Malkin, Bobby Jindal, and Nikki Haley’s parents, and have the kid in Little Rock but we are not citizens and do not want to cynically exploit the immigration laws of the U.S.A.

      • Laurel

        Shut up stupid.

        • KayGee

          It’s Ok, Mr. Eminence, They REALLY don’t like it when you call out the double standard held by the Headmistress around here. If the USA did close the citizenship-by-birth loop hole that both you and MM have pointed out, it would prevent anyone from gaining US Citizenship under circumstances IDENTICAL to MM/Jindal/Haley in the future… Let’s not go too far and start calling it hypocrisy, though, because that’s offensive or racist or something.

          • Brown Eminence

            Oh I know they don’t. They already removed one of my comments. Mind you I did not use any profanity or make any threats.

          • Laurel

            World’s smallest violin playing for you.

          • Laurel

            Shut up stupid. You are another racist, bigoted, xenophobe. You can’t refute her or Jindal or Haley so you go racist with lies and pablum because that is what ignorant peasants like you do.

          • Brown Eminence

            Haha look who is going all ad hominem. I am sorry those are the facts about Bobby, Nikki, and Michelle. Immigration records and math don’t lie. Racist? Xenophobe? -Project much Laurel? If you read my previous response you would know that I am Indian like Piyush Jindal and Nikki Haley the only difference is my parents didn’t book a plane ticket to the USA when they found out about the pregnancy…lol

          • KayGee

            I don’t know if you bothered to actually read the link provided in my last post, but don’t worry it’s safe to click, it’s just MM’s All-American Patriot blog, not some evil commie-marxist-fascist-liberal blog that will infect your brain with socialism. The facts are clear when you put two and two together: there exists a double standard (and arguably some self-loathing) when one is supporting the closure of the same pathway to citizenship that gave them their own, which in this case is US Law 8 U.S.C. § 1401: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to
            the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the
            State wherein they reside.”

          • Laurel

            And your point is? No I didn’t click your link and I’m not going to. Bottom line is you are an idiot screaming anchor baby out one side of your mouth and amnesty out the other. And NO! the circumstances are not equal or the same…not even remotely.

            EGADS! You are really dumb. You can’t hold even a singular train of thought.

          • KayGee

            And where/when did I ever mention amnesty? Now you’re just making things up, if you really want to talk about who’s dumb. Just jam your fingers further in your ears, why don’t you?

          • Laurel

            Non you are right, you didn’t mention it outright, you just sided with those that do.

            It is apparent you jammed your fingers in your ears a long time ago since you can’t even hear or read the idiocy you post.

          • KayGee

            Oh, I get it, so because I pulled out the facts to reinforce another person’s honest statement about the blatant hypocrisy of this whole twitter-spat, it means I must agree with everything else Mr. Brown Eminence says, too? It must be so much simpler viewing the world only in black and white, with none of those pesky shades of grays mixing and muddling things in between.

          • Laurel

            You didn’t pull out any facts…that is the problem so NO! you don’t get it. The minute you pulled the ‘anchor baby’ card you lost both in facts and intellect. I can’t take anything you say serious because of that. You showed me all I need to know about you and your angry little self.

            And it must be tiresome to wander around in a gray fog all of the time lost and thinking you know what’s best for everyone.

          • KayGee

            I must concede, this internets argument goes to you, we are at a tiresome end. You win and are correct in this matter, no facts were presented at all by me, since we all know by now that “facts” are only “facts” when your mind allows them to exist.

          • Laurel

            Yeah whatever. You have a very unique definition of ‘facts’ but that is what is always the case for the left. The left smears people then labels it as ‘fact’ which is what you did precisely in the extreme here in an effort to distract from the point of the thread. Your posts speak for themselves and there is no such thing as ‘internets’.

            Post a provable fact otherwise shut up.

        • Brown Eminence

          Typical brilliant rebuttal from a low information Fox News viewer.

          • Laurel

            I don’t watch Fox and it’s all ignoramuses like yourself understand.

  • kim

    according to GOV’T statistics, of the ‘alleged’ 12 million illegals here, 60% have no diploma or GED. only 5% have a college degree, 62.9% live at or near poverty level and receive public housing, foodstamps, medicaid, daycare, wic, etc. 83% of 1st generation and 71% of 2nd generation want BIG gov’t with extensive entitlements. 42% remain on welfare system handouts for over 20 years.
    majority will be low wage, low skilled workers who take jobs that our kids, young adults and those who did not graduate should be filling.
    Our gov’t advertises food stamps in Mexico to draw the illegals here

    • AlmaAlma

      I always believed that the Govt. ruined the country of Mexico, but it seems the attitude of the people did Or at least they have contributed to the demise of their country.

      I felt sorry for this gentleman, thinking that if I were living in a country as dangerous as Mexico I would probably be tempted to jump the line as well, to hell with legal or illegal – but if the stats that you quote or anything to go by, they created their own hell.

  • kim

    For Jose, You are a criminal. Not just the crime of ilegal immigration, but crimes of falsifying gov’t documents and fraud. Instead of being patted on the head, you should have been tossed in jail and deported immediately upon release, along with the relative who helped you forge your papers.
    It is ironic that the very people refusing to follow the laws that hundreds of millions have, are the very people crying that the system is broken.
    Are you ready to change the laws against rape or murder, if rapists and killers decide the system is broken because there are laws against their desired behavior?
    And yes, it is the same thing. You, as a criminal, want us to change OUR laws, because YOU don’t want to follow them.
    Just because our politicians are afraid of the media and don’t want to insist our laws be enforced, does not mean that 302 million people agree. Not even the 40 million legal non-citizen residents agree.

  • Smiley

    For someone reputed to be “too angry” by libs and country-club Republicans, Michelle was a helluva lot more polite with this smug phony than I would have been.

    Whenever this douchebag is not morally lecturing everyone in a country he illegally resides in, he’s casually admitting to law-breaking such as false passports and driver license fraud that would put a regular citizen/legal immigrant in the slammer for years. Afterwards he goes on Fox where he calls for border security and enforcement, but only of course after he gets shamensty first. Why does he get shamnnesty but not, say, a future illegal immigrant 5 years from now? Because as Michelle exposes above, his moral argument is “Give me amnesty or you hate immigrants”. What a tool.

  • Gregg Hammerquist

    “how do we address the 11 million already here?” GO BACK HOME AND TRY IT THE RIGHT WAY!

    • neonseattle

      not trying to start a war here… but how many of the 11-12 million are children who did not have a choice in coming to America? they are growing up in American culture, are getting educated here, and identify completely as American. it is not as simple as saying, “Go back to your home country and do it right ” when America IS the only home they’ve ever known.

      • Gregg Hammerquist

        Then they should blame their parents. How many children have had to wait in poverty and a crime-stricken country because their parents decided to do it legally? What about them?

        • neonseattle

          that’s besides the point. this entire discussion, which includes the question you quoted, is about the people that are here already and how the government should address their status in our country.

  • Michael Anderson (WB)

    My father was here illegally for a couple months. His green card expired because we were out of the country for too long, we came back expecting to resume life in the States. When he found out about the green card situation we left. It took about 15 years but he became a citizen and voted the first time in 2004. There is already a path to citizenship for illegals.

  • agroulx

    That illegal clown didn’t even say anything. (“of course, I agree, How do we fix? Should I go back? Let me cook you food. How do we fix? But, but, but”) How about you take your ass back across the border with the rest of your people and sign your name up, pay, and wait in line the LEGAL way! There is an answer – follow the laws! I don’t feel bad for any of those people. They can all go home, and come back through the front door.

  • JR48

    I remember Reagan’s amnesty…which solved nothing except the legal status of those four million people. Since then, the numbers have multiplied and we find ourselves dealing with even more people…and NO SOLUTION to be able to control the number of people crossing the border.

    FIX the border and then I’ll listen to what those ‘immigrants’ desire. I am absolutely deaf to them and their issues right now. It’s completely and utterly wrong to have that group of people decide what our immigration policies are. The illegal folks are running the show when it should be the citizens of this country who decide how many immigrants from any one country can come here and how many actually can stay. Non citizens should not be writing our immigration laws.

    Fix the border so that we can determine what the flow should be. I will absolutely stand against any amnesty laws until that happens. We need a long term solution.

  • JR48

    Btw Vargas, until such time you are in the legal process to become either legal resident and/or citizen, your status is ILLEGAL. Don’t like it, then start taking the steps necessary to legally change that. It’s not name calling, it’s accurate. You are not here legally, so you are an illegal alien. It’s not a perjorative term.

    Btw, were I to act exactly the same in your home country, I would be in jail.

  • NRPax

    So why is it that the United States is the only country in the world that has to have open borders and is not allowed to address people living here illegally?

    • Angie

      Because it’s the only country non-citizens envy from their socialist hellholes & they want to be able to come here & make it into a socialist hellhole too.

      • NRPax

        And they seem to believe that this time “it will be done right” if they can remake the country.

  • Angie

    I like how he talks about fixing *our* broken system — um, it isn’t *your* system, buddy; you’re not a citizen.

  • Rulz

    ‘@michellemalkin, I am most interested in your views on fixing our broken immigration system. Also, your views beyond US-Mexico border”—Jose Vargas.

    I think the reason he said this is because Mexico has a tendency to treat foreigners like hogwash.

    Their activity with their southern border is probably frightening at times and they deport Western citizens w/o due process.

    So they are not exactly in the best place to yelp at us.

  • © Sponge

    I don’t understand the debate here. What do we do about the 11 mill. here? Work to systematically deport them while SEALING the borders. The process for status? Follow existing laws!!!! Everyone can apply for status or citizenship, but they MUST follow the given process as defined BY OUR LAWS. Vargas is a law breaker who continually mocks our system and should be prosecuted. Period. Right along with the 11 Million others.

    Overall, the option for those that feel the need to leave a situation in their country is to FIX THEIR COUNTRY. I’m sorry it sucks for you, but revolutions are HARD. Maybe they need to go HOME and HAVE ONE.

    • Thomas Collins

      We can’t deport 12-20 million illegal aliens…I mean not as easily as we can confiscate 100 million legal guns

  • Steve_J

    Illegal is illegal and they should not be receiving any benefits.

  • Mister A

    We’re talking about roughly 3.5% of the US population. I’m not saying I don’t care, but I think there are more pressing issues. Not to mention the unintended consequences that would accompany amnesty (buh bye, Social Security). As far as the process goes, it may be a long and difficult process, but it’s there. Not following the rules, then demanding the rules be changed is a prime example of hypocrisy. Or, we could just call it cheating.

  • Gallatin

    Jose Antonio Vargas ✔
    @michellemalkin, so should I be deported? Or should I and others like me be given a process to legalize?

    You should be deported. Any other silly questions?

  • Gallatin

    Jose Antonio Vargas ✔
    @michellemalkin, of course not. but again, how do we address the 11 million already here?

    Deport them.

  • Gallatin

    Jose Antonio Vargas ✔
    @michellemalkin, so, again, you would rather have 11 million undocumented people here STAY undocumented? with no process for legalization?

    No, I want them deported.

  • Thomas Collins

    “Name a time, place, I’m there”

    How about Manila, tomorrow?

  • Jim

    “Undocumented people like me want a process to become legalized.” We already have one, it’s called immigration. Why wasn’t it good enough for you the first time? This is like breaking into someone’s house and then demanding they get rid of the law against B & E so that you can stay, just because you like it there.

  • Thomas Collins

    “Undocumented people like me want a process to become legalized…”

    Undocumented people like me want to become documented

    Illegal people like me want to become legalized.

    I’m undocumented, which is not the same as being illegal, but I want to become legal, not documented.

    I’m not illegal, I’m undocumented, but I want to become legalized, not documented. Maybe I should learn English first.

    Now I’ve covered all the bases.

  • Thomas Collins

    “PLEASE stop calling people names. i, for one, don’t tolerate immigrants being called “illegal” or women being called “c*nt bag”

    What perception! What insight! Saying someone is illegal is descriptive. Calling someone a name, is, well, calling someone a name, Does he really equate these two things?

  • shimauma

    @joseiswriting until we get a gub’mint not full of corruption, scumturds like you will continue to take advantage of our failing system

  • James Atkins

    I’m confused, he kept droning on about what do we do about creating a process for illegal citizens to become legal. Here is a hint. We already have one…it’s how the non-American citizens have become citizens for decades. Follow it.

  • EastValleyConservative

    Note Vargas just keeps repeating the same tripe since he can’t get the answer he wants. Does it at ALL bother him that what he and so many other morons voted for (redistribution) is going to be brutal when it’s open and on the books. ObamaCare–I bet he gets exempted for his last name and not his salary (which is probably quite large) because that’s where we are today in America. The “right” kind of discrimination is acceptable.

  • DizzyMissL

    Vargas is a completeprick.

  • DizzyMissL

    And screw civility. You should have told him to GO HOME and take the rest of the criminals with him.