Donald Trump rants about vaccines and autism

Donald Trump’s opposition to vaccines is nothing new. Last year, he blamed autism on multiple vaccinations (i.e. children receiving more than one vaccination during a single doctor’s visit).

Ironically, his latest anti-vaccine tweet appeared one day after yet another major study debunked the purported link between vaccines and autism:

A new study adds to years of research showing that childhood vaccines do not cause autism, despite worries among a growing number of parents that their young children receive “too many vaccines.”

Researchers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention concluded that even when multiple inoculations are given on the same day, children are at no higher risk of developing autism, according to the report published in the Journal of Pediatrics Friday.

“This study looked into the concern that receiving too many vaccines at one doctor’s visit or too many vaccines during the first two years of life may be linked to the development of autism,” the report’s lead author, Dr. Frank DeStefano told NBC chief medical editor Dr. Nancy Snyderman. “We found they’re not related.”

The study was funded by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, not the vaccine industry. It is one of many studies that failed to find evidence of a link between vaccines and autism.

Fortunately, many Twitter users are on to Trump:

We recognize that some vaccines may have rare side effects.  Moreover, the public health establishment has a poor track record when it comes to acknowledging such risks.

Ironically, Trump’s use of pseudo-science discredits concerned parents (and others) who have legitimate worries about vaccine safety.

Related:

Donald Trump: A lot of people agree with me about vaccines

Anti-vaxxer Donald Trump dangerously blames increase in autism on combined inoculations; Tapper slams

Donald Trump: “The FDA should immediately stop mass dose vaccinations”

  • Sakemoto

    Trump is nothing more than a “Daddy Made Man.”

  • http://apostrophejones.com/ Gloves Donahue, Jr.

    Don Trumpaleone says he doesn’t drink

    He should look into starting.

  • Miss Clairee

    Ladies and Gentlemen, Dr. Trump has spoken!

    I think the Donald needs to check his stock portfolio. I’m sure it contains quite a few drug manufacturers. Be careful what you tweet, Don!

  • Gradivus

    It’s good to keep scientific research going to consider all possibilities, and test them. Studies are good. Emotionalistic rants and ad hominem attacks on people for having an opinion you don’t happen to do agree with, are pernicious and destructive.

    • Violina23

      But that’s the point — scientific research has disprove a direct link between vaccines & autism. How many studies need to be done before people agree that this isn’t just a matter of opinion?

      Some people may have rare conditions that cause them to react badly to certain treatments (such as vaccines), But it is for THEIR BENEFIT that everyone else not be scared out of vaccinating their otherwise healthy children so that the herd immunity can protect those who are vulnerable. I believe the stories of parents who say their children changed dramatically after a vaccine. But we have to be careful not to rush to incorrect conclusions that endanger the rest of society, just to give these parents something concrete to blame for their tragedy.

      So more research: YES! Find out what happened to these kids. But stop trumpeting the vaccine/autism link like it’s a matter of opinion. It’s not.

      • dkhilly

        My sister has an autistic child. She said that autistic children will often suddenly show stronger symptoms after a traumatic event…she believes for some kids with phobias of needles, or allergies, getting a bunch a shots can be that traumatic event…but that these kids would show the strong symptoms eventually whether they got the shots or not.

  • Clayton Grant

    I want to know if that thing living on his head has been vaccinated.

    • TocksNedlog

      There is no cure for The Donald Ducktail.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

      Cats generally are vaccinated against a plethora of diseases. I believe that is what he uses to cover his head.

      • AWomaninTX

        That poor cat. Well trained, though.

      • AWomaninTX

        That poor cat. Well trained, though.

      • ssj429

        It would be nice if he used a cat to cover his head. It would look better than his bizarre combover.

      • ssj429

        It would be nice if he used a cat to cover his head. It would look better than his bizarre combover.

      • luckycat76

        Cat? My cats are prettier than that. I think it’s road kill.

  • Steve_J

    Are those who are discouraging the use of vacines trying to duplicate the results of banning DDT?

    • ANB2015

      DDT was banned in the US 40 years ago, shortly after the country’s last known malaria outbreak. Not sure what “results” you are talking about.

      • Steve_J

        The approximately 96,000,000 people world wide have died since 1972 when DDT was banned.

        • ANB2015

          DDT was banned in the US. It was not banned worldwide. DDT is still legal throughout most of Africa and Asia, where malaria is still killing people. Still not sure what “results” you are talking about. Just because something is banned in the US doesn’t mean it is banned on the rest of the planet.

  • NanNJ

    Vaccines do cause autism. Ask Thomas Skinner of the CDC, he even admitted it in an LA Times article. The vaccine for whopping cough was changed after 1997 because in his words is was causing neurological problems. This is not an anti- pharmy debate. This is the debate by this Tea Party mom who watched her child fade into the word of autism. Ask most parents they all think its vaccines. WE ARE NOT anti business, this is an issue that needs to be looked into. The Gov’t cannot admit to their wrong doing, they mandate these vaccines. I am not a Trump fan, but he is right on this one, because he talks to Pharmy big wigs, they know what’s happening, can’t admit it. Too much money involved. Mark my words.

    • TocksNedlog

      Everyone wants to get at the truth, but rushing to judgment may have the effect of helping no one.

    • Justin Jurek

      And yet it’s been debunked multiple times, but oh wait, we can’t trust the studies, they were GOVERNMENT FUNDED!!! D8

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

      A) Hasn’t it been looked into before?
      B) Following the doctor’s line of reasoning that you’ve cited, wouldn’t rates of incidence have gone down-not up?
      C) The government can advise, but not mandate. Many of the children who caught whooping cough in the town adjacent to mine a few years ago had a “conscientious” or a religious exemption from receiving vaccinations.

      • NanNJ

        A) No, it has been looked into and reported on by government funded agencies. There are studies showing the brain damage caused, but you just don’t hear about them.
        B) The whooping cough vaccine is the only vaccine looked into, kind of like the amount of themerisol give at the 6 month vaccines schedule was never added up. In other words infants were getting 600 times the amount of mercury that adults should have been getting in one vaccine interval. Ooops, they forgot to add all the different vaccines give at that interval.
        C) In NJ– the pharmy capital of the world, you try getting your kid into school without all their vaccines…ain’t happening.

        • ssj429

          According to some there supposedly are studies that prove aliens are real as well. The government just keeps them hidden.

        • ssj429

          According to some there supposedly are studies that prove aliens are real as well. The government just keeps them hidden.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

          The American Journal of Pediatric Medicine lists dozens of independent studies that disprove the link between autism and vaccinations.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

          The American Journal of Pediatric Medicine lists dozens of independent studies that disprove the link between autism and vaccinations.

    • $30423294

      Nan I really sympathize with what your gut tells you. Unfortunately, the onset of symptoms in autism takes place right around the time when children start receiving vaccinations. This co-occurrence is what makes the causal link seem plausible.

      I read a study a few years ago that re-analyzed a previous study by contacting the participants of the first study. A very large number of parents from the first study who said the autistic symptoms began within days or weeks of the vaccination, when prodded for more detail, recognized that the symptoms actually began far later.

      I don’t think you or any of your friends, nor your doctors, did anything to cause your children’s autism. On the contrary, I think autistic kids have been born all through history. I think this includes great people like Isaac Newton, and almost all of history’s brilliant mathematicians. Notice there were no vaccinations in ancient times. In days past, in my opinion, we found ways to channel the amazing energy of these children into productive pursuits.

      I believe the real problem today is not vaccinations, it is the unfortunate fact that our culture no longer values the traits of autistic kids, their concentration and loyalty, their introversion and their singleness of purpose. And — except for the unsung heroes in thankless jobs like special education and nursing — we have lost all compassion for the vulnerable. God have mercy on our souls.

      That’s the tragedy of autism, in my opinion.

      • AWomaninTX

        What a wonderful way to state that. Thank you.

      • AWomaninTX

        What a wonderful way to state that. Thank you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

        Autistic individuals have existed and thrived throughout history. Nurturing, patience, and proper outlets make all the difference in the world. In college, I knew a handful of individuals that were diagnosed as children as having Aspergers Syndrome. Far from lamenting their condition, they were quite thankful to be born as they were and resentful of a society obsessed with “curing” them, rather than simply accepting them as they were. Aspergers, admittedly, is quite different than less functional cases of autism.

        • annoyinglittletwerp

          Awesome comment.

          I was diagnosed w/AS @ 33. I consider my AS to be a gift, and no-I didn’t get it because of vaccines.

        • $30423294

          Thank you for affirming this Jillane.

          My experience is similar to yours. I don’t hear people with Aspergers wanting a cure. I sense they just want a chance at life without being demeaned, the same as the rest of us.

          Interestingly, the next version of the diagnostic and statistical manual is going to put autism and aspergers on the same continuum, treating the latter as a matter of severity. At least that’s what I’ve heard.

        • Gkiter

          Einstein was autistic. It does not remove the fact that studies have seen a correlation between the volume of vaccine shots and the dramatic increase of autism in the USA and not so much in other countries, except for South Korea which has about the same vaccine schedule as the USA.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

        Autistic individuals have existed and thrived throughout history. Nurturing, patience, and proper outlets make all the difference in the world. In college, I knew a handful of individuals that were diagnosed as children as having Aspergers Syndrome. Far from lamenting their condition, they were quite thankful to be born as they were and resentful of a society obsessed with “curing” them, rather than simply accepting them as they were. Aspergers, admittedly, is quite different than less functional cases of autism.

      • a.a.

        When a child regresses within hours of receiving a series of vaccines? When a flourishing and developmentally neuro-typical child fades away within 24 hours of receiving the vaccines? When a loving, strong, thriving, and interactive child pulls away into another world, stops talking, no longer makes eye contact, bangs his head on the floor, whines in a high pitch you have never heard your child make, starts requiring diapers again, when potty training was successful many months previous, and diapers were in the childs past. Cries in distress when foods, sounds, textures, touches are now aggravating. When you witness this, there is no denying it! Unless you have seen this for yourself, you cannot comment on the connection. It is simply ignorant to dismiss this as coincidence. We cannot bury our heads in the sand and hope and “pray” the connection is not relevant. We CAN protect our kids from the damaging effects of vaccines. Childhood disease does claim a very small percentage of childrens’ lives, and autism is claiming far more healthy children.

        It is difficult to see the “gift” of autism, when a child deteriorates before your eyes, within a day of receiving a vaccine. Some forms of autism are not so magnificent, Aspergers children is not the only outcome of autism. Before vaccinating, get all the facts, consider ALL the possible outcomes, weigh the pros and cons, find out if your child is a potentially sensitive individual for vaccine reactions. Understand all the ingredients in the vaccine they are administering. Delay the schedule, and spread out the office visits as to not get multiple vaccines in ONE visit. The medical industry is looking for maximum efficiency in administering the vaccine schedule, if safety was the top priority, they would not administer the HepB vaccine within hours of giving birth in hospital. A disease that is sexually transmitted, or contracted during recreational drug use, blood and/or bodily fluids. A mother can be tested for this during pregnancy to make sure she will not pass this to her newborn during birth. The overwhelmingly vast majority of newborns are not at risk for contracting the disease, and yet they choose to make this the first vaccine priority within 12 hours of life?

        Dr Wakefields study was not found fraudulent, his finding and his study was completely credible. The Pharmaceutical industry has deep pockets, and far reaching connections, his findings were too damaging to their bottom line, he had to be stopped ,and they saw to it. Doesn’t make it go away though, and telling the lie over and over, that there is no correlation between vaccines and autism does not turn the lie into the truth.

        • $30423294

          a.a., I don’t think I said up above that autism is a “gift.” I said society benefits from them. Autistic individuals across history have contributed more to our quality of our lives than all the movie stars, sports figures, and authors on the NY Times best seller list put together. This is just a fact. There is not a shred of patronizing in it.

          I’ve got nothing more on the vaccination issue. I simply offered a viewpoint. If I’m wrong, so be it.

          I still think human life is a gift. No exceptions.

    • ssj429

      Sorry, but you are wrong. Thomas Skinner was wrong, and why are you even quoting one man? That is his opinion. Not gospel truth. The CDC, along with other health organizations, have PROVEN that this is a myth.

      • Christoph DeHaven

        Absolutely. Though you don’t even need a single study to know there can be no connection. If vaccination and autism were really correlated, widespread vaccination would have begun at the same time as the spike in autism cases. But the autism spike began about 20 years ago, and vaccines have been around far longer than that, starting with the smallpox vaccine in the 18th century. Vaccines today actually have much less antigen than those used decades ago, pre-autism spike.
        The autism increase is more likely due to broadening autism into a spectrum of disorders and increased awareness of and monitoring for autism symptoms. I agree with catholicscholar that the association of vaccines with autism in the minds of some people is probably due to the fact that vaccines are given right around the time that autism symptoms typically emerge.

        Vaccines have been a blessing in wiping out so many terrible childhood diseases. The main reason out life expectancy is so much higher now is because of the elimination of those diseases, which killed so many children.

    • ssj429

      Sorry, but you are wrong. Thomas Skinner was wrong, and why are you even quoting one man? That is his opinion. Not gospel truth. The CDC, along with other health organizations, have PROVEN that this is a myth.

  • AWomaninTX

    I have been a mother for over 21 years to a total of 4 boys. All of them have been & are up to date on their shots & boosters. My youngest has just come down with a case of what appears to be measles. (We can’t see a doctor until tomorrow, if they will let us stop by.) I have never seen this in my life!

    This is what happens when people choose to not vaccinate: the bugs have the opportunity to get stronger by “feasting” on the non-vaccinated among us to the point that the vaccines are no longer as effective.

    • NanNJ

      If your kid is vaccinated, how the heck did he get measles? Huh?

      • AWomaninTX

        Most likely due to what I stated:
        “This is what happens when people choose to not vaccinate: the bugs have the opportunity to get stronger by “feasting” on the non-vaccinated among us to the point that the vaccines are no longer as effective.”

        Or are you one of those that believes herd immunity/community immunity is sufficient?

        But to make it easier for you, probably the same way I & my oldest got chicken pox twice… he was exposed it happened! Vaccinations are *not* 100% effective for everyone, all the time. But when they do work, lives are saved.

        ETA: A helpful link and quote:
        http://www.immunizationinfo.org/parents/why-immunize

        “During an outbreak, aren’t the majority of people who catch a disease those who have been vaccinated?

        Although vaccines have very high effectiveness rates, they are not completely effective for 100% of the people who receive them. For example, a full series of measles vaccine will protect 99 of 100 children from measles, and polio vaccine will protect 99 of 100 children from polio.2 This means that when there is a disease outbreak, the very small number of people for whom the vaccine did not work may still be able to catch the disease. Because almost all of our children are immunized, and only few are not, it can be the case that during an epidemic the majority of cases occur among children who were immunized. However, the fact remains that those who have not received the vaccine are much more likely to catch the disease.
        By way of example, consider an actual measles outbreak in Colorado in December 1994.5 Out of 625 children exposed to the disease, 17 got measles. Of those 609 who had previously been vaccinated, only 10 (or 1.6%) developed measles. Of the 16 children who were not immunized, 7 (or 44%) developed measles. Thus, the risk for immunized children was less than 2% while the risk for unimmunized children was 44%.

        “If vaccine-preventable diseases have been virtually eliminated from the United States, why do American children need to be vaccinated?

        Although many of these diseases have the potential to be eliminated, outbreaks of diphtheria, measles, and other vaccine-preventable diseases still occur.
        Children who are not vaccinated against measles are 35 times more likely than immunized children to catch the disease.6 Ten years ago (during the 1989 to 1991 measles epidemic), state health departments in the United States reported 55,622 measles cases, 11,251 hospitalizations, and 125 deaths.27 Research has shown that these epidemic numbers are due to the fact that in some areas only 50% of preschool-aged children had received the vaccine.2
        Without vaccines, the diseases we are now protected from will return. Thousands of children will become sick, some will have long-lasting health problems, and some will die.
        Other countries do not have the same levels of immunization that we benefit from in the United States. Therefore, we must all remain protected with vaccines because dangerous diseases largely under control in the United States are only a plane ride away.”

      • AWomaninTX

        Most likely due to what I stated:
        “This is what happens when people choose to not vaccinate: the bugs have the opportunity to get stronger by “feasting” on the non-vaccinated among us to the point that the vaccines are no longer as effective.”

        Or are you one of those that believes herd immunity/community immunity is sufficient?

        But to make it easier for you, probably the same way I & my oldest got chicken pox twice… he was exposed it happened! Vaccinations are *not* 100% effective for everyone, all the time. But when they do work, lives are saved.

        ETA: A helpful link and quote:
        http://www.immunizationinfo.org/parents/why-immunize

        “During an outbreak, aren’t the majority of people who catch a disease those who have been vaccinated?

        Although vaccines have very high effectiveness rates, they are not completely effective for 100% of the people who receive them. For example, a full series of measles vaccine will protect 99 of 100 children from measles, and polio vaccine will protect 99 of 100 children from polio.2 This means that when there is a disease outbreak, the very small number of people for whom the vaccine did not work may still be able to catch the disease. Because almost all of our children are immunized, and only few are not, it can be the case that during an epidemic the majority of cases occur among children who were immunized. However, the fact remains that those who have not received the vaccine are much more likely to catch the disease.
        By way of example, consider an actual measles outbreak in Colorado in December 1994.5 Out of 625 children exposed to the disease, 17 got measles. Of those 609 who had previously been vaccinated, only 10 (or 1.6%) developed measles. Of the 16 children who were not immunized, 7 (or 44%) developed measles. Thus, the risk for immunized children was less than 2% while the risk for unimmunized children was 44%.

        “If vaccine-preventable diseases have been virtually eliminated from the United States, why do American children need to be vaccinated?

        Although many of these diseases have the potential to be eliminated, outbreaks of diphtheria, measles, and other vaccine-preventable diseases still occur.
        Children who are not vaccinated against measles are 35 times more likely than immunized children to catch the disease.6 Ten years ago (during the 1989 to 1991 measles epidemic), state health departments in the United States reported 55,622 measles cases, 11,251 hospitalizations, and 125 deaths.27 Research has shown that these epidemic numbers are due to the fact that in some areas only 50% of preschool-aged children had received the vaccine.2
        Without vaccines, the diseases we are now protected from will return. Thousands of children will become sick, some will have long-lasting health problems, and some will die.
        Other countries do not have the same levels of immunization that we benefit from in the United States. Therefore, we must all remain protected with vaccines because dangerous diseases largely under control in the United States are only a plane ride away.”

      • ANB2015

        No vaccine is 100 percent effective. For every 10,000-five-year olds who have received both MMR shots, for instance, about 200 will still be susceptible to the measles virus.

    • NanNJ

      If your kid is vaccinated, how the heck did he get measles? Huh?

    • ssj429

      What you said is 100% true, and this is the best post I have seen! I completely agree.

      • AWomaninTX

        Thank you. It’s frustrating when things like this that are (mostly) preventable are not dealt with appropriately because some very loud voices out there have scared & confused the more “easily influenced” among us.

        • Christoph DeHaven

          Let me second ssj429. You obviously understand the statistics and science. I am dating a woman who is a vaccine-skeptic, thanks to her mother who has brainwashed her with “facts” cherry-picked from the Internet. That really worries me as far as having children goes. And I hope your son gets well soon.

      • AWomaninTX

        Thank you. It’s frustrating when things like this that are (mostly) preventable are not dealt with appropriately because some very loud voices out there have scared & confused the more “easily influenced” among us.

    • ssj429

      What you said is 100% true, and this is the best post I have seen! I completely agree.

    • Gkiter

      What happens is the exact opposite of what you describe. New strings of viruses appear just like bacteria become antibiotic resistant. Vaccines diminish kids immune systems and that is why they get sick, not because they have been in contact with unvaxed kids. And by the way, they do need to get sick to build up their immune systems, by over vaccinating we destroy their ability to naturally defend themselves.

      • AWomaninTX

        I do believe I understand what you were trying to state in that post – the wording , spelling & grammar confused me a bit. From all I have read, what your appear to be saying is wrong.

        Look, I won’t pretend to be a scientist who has in-depth knowledge on viruses. I am choosing to continue to trust actual experts on this subject.

        My best to you & yours.

        • Gkiter

          I corrected a few typos, it should read better now, not easy to type on the ipad keyboard. When people blindly trust the mainstream experts they don’t exercise good criticism. Most people also believed the experts and the government saying Iraq had WMD’s. The FDA experts also approved aspartame to be safe to consume, yet it is a poison with long term consequences. GMO’s are approved yet French scientists have proven they are dangerous for both the environment and consumption, and so on. Just a few examples to say people should listen more. When parents around the world claim their child has been brain damaged by vaccines and when independent studies and doctors say vaccines are hazardous, I trust that more than a few corrupt experts working for a government agency saying everything is cool. But of course people are free to poison themselves if they feel it’s the right thing to do for their family, I don’t.

      • ANB2015

        Just about everything you wrote is incorrect.

        • Gkiter

          Everybody is entitled to his own truth, some people will continue to believe the lies even if they know and see the truth.

          • ANB2015

            That makes absolutely no sense, which kind of fits in with your point.

          • Gkiter

            LOL, rest my case but you don’t understand.

            I’m pro choice, so I say let people who do not want to inject poisons alone and push for unbiased real research to better understand the negative effects of vaccines (not only autism).

            Let people who don’t mind taking dangerous drugs take them knowing they are taking a calculated risk but a free country can’t possibly force anyone to inject any foreign substance in his/her body or would not be a free country.

            I calculated my risks and they are not worth taking these drugs, although I have been vaccinated in the past but I changed my mind on the subject and our family is done with vaccinating. A few years ago my wife had a reaction to a vaccine and the doctor (who is a US Surgeon working for the government) told her she can never ever have the vaccine again or she may die.

            I recommend watching this YouTube video on autism and mercury in vaccines, it’s long but very informative http://tinyurl.com/d4r4luk

          • ANB2015

            No one is forced to take vaccines, so you are making a straw man argument. The phrase “injecting poisons” is inflammatory and not constuctive, since everything on the planet can be toxic, depending on concentration and dose. The fact that your wife cannot be vaccinated means it is important for those around her to be immunized. Your anti-vaccine rhetoric isn’t helping to that end.

            I’d still like to hear why you think the formaldehyde made in our cells is different than CH2O that is synthesized. Vitalism is alive and well among the anti-vaccine set.

          • Gkiter

            Most vaccines are useless, in my opinion they are comfort vaccines because parents are too busy to take care of their kids when sick; almost all diseases the US is vaccinating against are rarely dangerous except maybe tetanus, which is hard to catch.

            In France for example the only mandatory vaccine is a 3 in one diphtheria, tetanus and polio until 11 years old I think. There was not a “wild” case of polio in the US since the 70’s yet it is still on the schedule and it’s about the same in Europe.

            MMR’s, flu and gastro viruses are all diseases we would get as kids, it comes and goes and build the immune system, they are necessary and by over vaccinating we are destroying kids ability to defend themselves.

            Pertussis can be really dangerous for infants until about 6 months but again, most of Europe make it only a recommendation, past about 9 months old there is no other risks than being really annoying.

            Hep B is automatically given at birth unless parents specify not to do it, it is totally useless the mother has hepatitis.

            I personally know a couple people who got lupus after having the Hep C vaccine when it was introduced some years ago.

            There are many documented cases of young women getting very bad neurological conditions and death after getting the HPV vaccine which was pushed through the FDA in only a year and a half with no third party study.

            There has been cases of sudden death after DTaP vaccines.

            There are studies proving that infants get the same damages as the “shaken baby syndrome” after getting multiple shots during one visit with parents falsely accused of shaking their babies.

            This winter thousands of people adults and kids got brain damaged by the flu vaccine in Europe as they became narcoleptic.

            and so on.

            Officially the CDC only recommends the vaccines but most states mandate them or kids can’t go to school. Some states allow religious or philosophical wavers, not all, some allow it but make it really hard, so from that stand point they indeed force people to get vaccinated. Some pediatricians refuse to see kids that are not getting vaccinated. If people were not forced there would not even be debates like this one.

            Generally speaking, write or wrong, I’m against synthetic chemicals, it is more a general mindset to consume natural products that really based on science.

  • AWomaninTX

    I have been a mother for over 21 years to a total of 4 boys. All of them have been & are up to date on their shots & boosters. My youngest has just come down with a case of what appears to be measles. (We can’t see a doctor until tomorrow, if they will let us stop by.) I have never seen this in my life!

    This is what happens when people choose to not vaccinate: the bugs have the opportunity to get stronger by “feasting” on the non-vaccinated among us to the point that the vaccines are no longer as effective.

  • ssj429

    Trump is an ignorant fool for believing that vaccines cause Autism. There is absolutely no truth to that. Trump, like other celebrity idiots, has shown that he is anti-science. Vaccines should be mandatory. People who refuse to let their children be vaccinated are idiots.

    • Donna Delikat

      I listened to people like you, I thought I was doing the right thing when I agreed and allowed my beautiful, healthy infant to receive 37 vaccinations in the first year of her life…. I now have a 17 year old, who has never been able to speak, bangs her head against the wall, cant read, write or take care of herself…. a completely ruined life. If it was not the vaccines that caused this, please offer me another explanation… If I could go back in time, I would have much rather been called an idiot. Unless you’ve lived this nightmare, you have no clue what you are talking about. .

  • ssj429

    Trump is an ignorant fool for believing that vaccines cause Autism. There is absolutely no truth to that. Trump, like other celebrity idiots, has shown that he is anti-science. Vaccines should be mandatory. People who refuse to let their children be vaccinated are idiots.

  • Conpunk

    boo

  • SCinGB

    Another Twitchy article about vaccinations and the crazies who don’t fall lock step in line with the government recommendations. Your hits on people who think a little differently on this are getting old. Must be a slow news night. Or, maybe it was just another way for MM to diss Trump, we’ve seen how much those two like each other.

    Way to be open-minded guys. You’re almost as bad as the tolerant left on this.

  • MaxAceDad

    Kudos to Trump! He is almost correct and the drug companies hate him for announcing
    the truth. Autism is not caused by a vaccine, but autism likelihood is
    increased by the mercury added to the vaccine. Vaccine makers added mercury to
    their vaccinations in the form of thimerosal to avoid spoilage and therefore
    increase profit to the corporation. The vaccinations that are being cited as
    proof they don’t cause autism no longer contain thimerosal, unlike the
    vaccinations that many autistic infants received. Thimerosal in a single
    vaccine contains mercury that should be safe for an adult. Giving multiple
    vaccines, each containing toxic doses of mercury, to an infant vastly increases
    the possibility that the victim will become autistic. Drug makers do their
    best to confuse the public and hide their liability for thousands of autistic
    children. Andrew Wakefield was publicly humiliated with his twisted
    data, thereby giving faux-truth to the benevolent vaccine maker’s preordained
    ‘clinical studies’ that show they are blameless. Vaccine makers have the money
    to bury the truth; I am a disabled veteran furious at what they did to my son
    and ashamed at how easily our patriotic congressmenare bought by the vaccine makers.

    • ANB2015

      Thimerosal has been absent from the pediatric vaccine schedule since 2002. It is found in some flu vaccines, but thimerosal-free versions, including FluMist, are available for young children. Thimerosal is made with ethyl-mercury, which is not the same as methyl mercury. There is simply no evidence that thimerosal causes autism or any other neurological problem. You are spreading misinformation, probably because you are misinformed.

      • Gkiter

        Almost.., Thimerosal came back partially after a study in 2004 that concluded they were not able to link autism and Thimerosal. It is still present in DT (from Sanofi) and DTaP (from Tripedia) vaccines today as well as some seasonal flu vaccines. Other independent studies still show a relationship and that is why most manufacturer do not use it anymore (for commercial reasons) even though they could. Before 2002, a fully vaccinated infant would receive up to 50,000 ppm of mercury while the EPA considers water not fit for consumption at 2ppm. A vaccine bottle dropped on the floor was (or should have been) considered hazmat by EPA standards, yet it was fine to inject per FDA standards and still is per the 2004 study. Even if there isn’t actually a relationship between autism and mercury, mercury is a highly toxic metal and should be banned from drugs. The product was invented in the 1930’s, it’s about time big pharma uses new and safer technologies, the UN has been considering a world wide ban since last year, I don’t know if that was done yet or not.

        • ANB2015

          The EPA guidelines are for drinking water, not vaccines. The average person drinks over a liter of water each day. It would take 2,000 injections to equal one liter. You don’t seem to understand the difference between concentration and volume.

          Fortunately, the properties of atoms usually change when they are combined with other atoms to make molecules. Saying thimerosal contains mercury is like saying table salt contains chlorine gas.

          I’ve heard these talking points before. They are as nonsensical today as they were six years ago, when Jenny McCarthy was repeating them.

          • Gkiter

            I would not want to consume any amount of mercury. Again, it is extremely toxic in very small concentration and accumulates in tissues. It should not be injected at all, it is a poison, period.

          • MaxAceDad

            Gkiter is right on the money! Like many other autistic
            children, my son was vaccinated in 2001. Heavy metals, including mercury, are exceedingly high in my son’s system. Thimerosal is one of the many ingredients that can help bring about autism. Thimerosal is not a requirement for autism, although high levels of mercury are usually present in autistic children. How some autistic children who were never vaccinated acquired mercury in their body can be deduced with little effort and is incredibly disturbing. The presence of sawdust increase the chances for fire in much the same way that mercury increases the chance for autism. There is a correlation between Thimerosal and autism, but vaccine makers propagate enough lobbyists, confusion, falsehoods, and downright lies that proving a causal relationship will never happen. According to the CDC, for the 2012-2013 flu season “manufacturers will produce approximately 62 million doses of thimerosal-free or preservative-free (trace thimerosal) influenza vaccine”, which sounds reassuring until you also learn the CDC say for the 2012-2013 flu season “manufacturers are projecting that as many as 145 million doses”. The autism community is going to get larger while vaccine manufacturers get richer. The ‘properties’ of mercury are the properties of a heavy metal, period. There is neither an alchemic formula to turn mercury into gold nor into a safe injection. The only ‘concentration’ in this debate is the large ‘volume’ of vaccine maker lobbyists and stock holders trolling the web trying to confuse the public. I have never been a fan of Trump, but right now he is someone those immoral monsters fear, so I must respect him.

  • AZWarrior

    Fools. Vaccines have been tested and tested and they don’t cause autism. People who don’t get children vaccinated and whose child then come down with that disease should have their children taken from them for abuse. If the nonvaccinated child infects others, the parents should be held criminally liable. No more fooling around with these idiots. We are always one mutation from extinction.

  • Gkiter

    The study may have been funded by the CDC but they focused on the relationship between the amount of antigens and autism. The issue of vaccines is not the amount of antigens but the amount of toxic chemicals contained in the shots, aluminum, msg, mercury, formaldehyde, antifreeze, human and animal cells and so on. These chemicals are responsible for many diseases and deaths, not so much the antigens if at all.

    • ANB2015

      What’s wrong with formaldehyde, Gkiter? An infant makes more CH2O in one day that what is contained in any five vaccines combined? Also, there is no anti-freeze in vaccines. You are either confused by sound-alike chemical names, or else you believe what Jenny McCarthy says.

      • Gkiter

        Formaldehyde is made by pretty much all living creatures but not to mix what the body produces and synthetic compounds that are injected. Formaldehyde is a carcinogen with biocide properties (kills cells and that’s why it’s used in vaccines), its use is restricted and even partially banned in Europe.

        You may find scientific information at this link: http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0000629

        “Both formaldehyde and acetaldehyde can go through the blood-brain barrier and cause some lesions to CNS, especially our visual system”

        Perhaps the most dangerous ingredient in vaccines is aluminum, which BTW is also found in lots of prepared foods, most baking powders.

        You may find information at the antichrist of the CDC which is the National Vaccine Information Center http://www.nvic.org/doctors-corner/Aluminum-and-Vaccine-Ingredients.aspx as well as from Doctor Mercola website who has lots of information on toxic substances in vaccines.

        Some vaccines contain 2-phenoxyethanol, you may verify from the PDF available at this link http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf, which is also called ethylen glycol, which is the primary component of automotive antifreeze.

        • ANB2015

          Formaldehyde made by the body is the same as what is found in some vaccines. They are both CH2O. Formaldehyde that is injected subcutaneously cross links with proteins well before it finds its way to the BBB. The idea that “natural” CH2O is somehow different than synthesized CH2O comes from a school of biology called vitalism, which was discredited about 170 years ago.

          Ethylene glycol is a component of anti-freeze. It is not the same as 2-phenoxyethanol, which is non-toxic and found in a variety of consumer products, including some vaccines, as well as skin cream and sunscreen.

          Your are, of course, entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

          • Gkiter

            Homeopathy is also discredited in the US, yet, it is used around the world and I have been using it forever with great success.

            Formaldehyde is officially a carcinogen, government documentation is available at this link http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=03C9AF75-E1BF-FF40-DBA9EC0928DF8B15.

            I do agree however that its use in vaccines is not the main source of exposure as main exposures come from wood composite furniture, building materials, household cleaners, plastics, fabrics, personal care products, car exhaust, cigarette smoke and occupational use. But as an advocate of clean vaccines, I am against its use in vaccines although it is not my main concern, aluminum phosphate and aluminum hydroxide are at the top of the list.

            Agreed that phenoxyethanol is considered less toxic, but I’m not buying it is fully harmless. In 2012 it has been removed from approved ingredients in organic cosmetics in EU and I bet in a few years we will find that after all it is not as safe as we thought. Like formaldehyde, phemoxyethanol is found naturally, in green tea for example but it comes back to natural and synthetic debate and not all natural substances are harmless either.

            Repeated exposure to synthetic phenoxyethanol has been linked to eczema, reproductive and neurotoxicity. The debate on the chemical is not over and will last for many years until we are sure it’s harmless or sure it is not. In the mean time the safe path is not to use it, especially in drugs injected into infants.

          • ANB2015

            Female genital mutilation is discredited in the US but still practiced in many parts of the world. So I see your point.

  • Vito Alexander Pavlovic

    There are many sheep on here believing the CDC studies in relation to autism, all of them rigged, including this last one!

  • Vito Alexander Pavlovic

    Trump is an over achiever, while the many that are against him are followers, and that’s what causes conflicts, different ideology, perhaps that’s why Trump is wealthy and they’re broke!

  • thevaccinemachine

    The CDC is the vaccine industry, you imbecile. And the “study” you refer to did not even examine vaccines.

  • SteveMichaels

    I love reading all of the pro vax shills saying how all of these studies “prove” that there is no link between vaccines and autism. NO study can “prove” a negative. It is the classic white swan fallacy. If you state that there are ONLY white swans, it doesn’t matter how many white swans your studies show. It only takes ONE black swan to disprove the hypothesis. As with vaccines, you can show all sorts of studies which show “no link” between autism and vaccines, and all I need to do is show you one accepted case to disprove the hypothesis that vaccines don’t cause autism. Well here goes….

    Hannah Poling. Accepted and considered proven by the CDC and the Vaccine Injury Panel that she had a disorder which resulted in a direct causal relationship between vaccination and autism. How many children have this disorder? Nobody knows. Are children tested for this disorder before vaccination? NO. Why not?

    How about this one…

    http://www.nyrnaturalnews.com/chemicals-2/2012/05/italian-court-rules-mmr-vaccine-did-trigger-autism/.

    After full deliberations by experts on both sides, an Italian Court ruled that a child suffered autism as a direct result of vaccination.

    Here is a report of 83 additional “black swans”….

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/83-cases-of-autism-associated-with-childhood-vaccine-injury-compensated-in-federal-vaccine-court-121570673.html

    An excerpt for those too lazy to actually research:

    For over 20 years, the federal government has
    publicly denied a vaccine-autism link, while at the same time its
    Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) has been awarding damages for
    vaccine injury to children with brain damage, seizures and autism. A
    new investigation, based on verifiable government data, breaks ground in
    the controversial vaccine-autism debate. The investigation found that a
    substantial number of children compensated for vaccine injury also have
    autism and that such cases have existed since 1989, the year after the
    VICP was formed.
    SafeMinds’ Executive Director, Lyn Redwood, RN , MSN comments, “This study dramatically shifts the debate on autism and vaccines. The question is no longer, Can vaccines cause autism? The answer is clear. Now, we have to ask, How many cases of autism have vaccines caused and how do we prevent new injuries from occurring?” The government has asserted that it “does not track” autism among the vaccine-injured.”

    • ANB2015

      You’re right, Steve. It is not practical to prove a negative. That is why the onus is on the anti-vaccine activists to prove their point. Which they have failed to do. Over and over.

  • SteveMichaels

    Oh, and here is a comprehensive deconstruction of the “new” study which supposedly proves no links.

    http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/can-we-trust-the-cdc-claim-that-there-is-no-link-between-vaccines-and-autism/

  • ANB2015

    Kim Stagliano is a longtime anti-vaccine blogger who has written that her youngest daughter has never been vaccinated. And yet that same girl is autistic and “vaccine injured.” Maybe Mr. Trump can explain that, too.

  • Brooke Wood

    Some people want to be in public through their word so as mr.Donald. When it is scientifically proved that autism and the vaccinations has no relations regarding the autism. I really appreciate that science has changed the view or opinion of the world.
    http://events.nationalautismnetwork.com

  • Gkiter

    Voila

    “The authors suggest that all this increased exposure to aluminum via injection (which, they say, presents a much higher danger of aluminum crossing the blood brain barrier and entering the central nervous system than occurs when aluminum enters the body via food) correlates with higher levels of autism spectrum disorder in the populations of Western developed nations.”

    http://www.columbiajournal.ca/12-05/P7VaccineWars.html

  • Curt Linderman Sr.

    You people are complete morons. Have you idiots even read the study that you’re talking about???? You really should try that first before you start writing about how yet another study proves that vaccines don’t play a causal role in autism. You truly are idiots if you think you’re going to use THIS study to make an anti vaccinationist look “unscientific”. Vaccines are playing a role in autism and many other chronic diseases and the science does say that….just not the “pseudo Science” that you morons believe in. PLEASE READ THE STUDIES OR …IF YOU’RE TOO STUPID TO DO THAT…GET SOMEONE WITH TRUE SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT A PATHETIC AND UNSCIENTIFIC PAPER THIS IS! This study was designed to put out into the media for braindead idiots that simply listen to headlines….. get a grip.