Pew study non-shocker: MSNBC dominated by opinion, not factual news; HuffPo shocked

In was in question for the lapdogs at The Huffington Post, evidently. They were shocked!

Zing! It isn’t really surprising that Huffpo is “startled.” Remember, they just pulled an MSNBC and attempted to smear Fox News contributor and comedian Steven Crowder.

Some point out that MSNBC is primarily commentary-based.

So, basically, they aren’t reporting news?  True, they aren’t; they push an agenda and false narratives. So why are they considered a news outlet?

Other Twitter users react to the news that they have known themselves for a long, long time.

Projection 101! You can always tell what the Left is doing by looking at what they accuse others of doing.

Lean forward! Into confirmation of bias.

Update: Oh, yes.

Bam! As a reminder:


  • Netmilsmom

    I wonder if the CNN graph includes the Headline news channel lumped in?

  • arttie

    I am surprised the lockup programing is only 15%, of the total air time

  • camnpat

    CNN does less opinion…?! Really? Maybe Headline News, but not CNN. While nothing like MSNBC, CNN just does the opinion part in the middle of reporting the news. That’s why they seem to report more news than give opinion.

    • Smiley

      MSNBC wishes it has CNN’s hard-hitting journalism like “The Ridiculist”, or Solo-dunce’s “documentaries”.

  • Scott Carroll

    “MSNBC dominated by opinion, not factual news”

    In other news, Pope Francis since shock waves through Vatican City today by announcing that he was, in fact, Catholic.

    • CatHerder

      …and admitting he wears a funny hat.

    • V the K

      In other news, Oceans are filled mostly with water.

    • Frank Drebin

      This just in: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

      • Secede

        Says Chevy Chase- back when Saturday Night Live was actually funny

    • Smiley

      “More this hour: a controversial study claiming bears crap in woods.”

      “And, an official response from MSNBC on the recent Pew Study claiming it is virtually news-free. Not only do they quote ‘vigorously dispute’ the study, they claim to have a bridge to sell to all of their naysayers. More after this…”

    • Miss Clairee

      Sounds like there’s a lotta pearl clutching going on at @HuffPo! Who in the WORLD do they think they’re kidding??????

  • BlueGood

    This just in…..A left wing Think Tank just released a study with startling revelations.

    “They studied the USSR form of government from 1918 to 1989 and found 100% of that country’s system was predicated & administered on 100% Opinion”.

    This PROFOUND finding of FACT is shaking up the entire chattering class of the Main Stream Media and Leftist people…. like everywhere…..

    Rumor has it a similar “Study” will be conducted on Germany from 1923 to June 1945…and a another on Japan from 1921 to August or Sept. 1945….

    These two NEW studies may be completed as early as 2069…can’t wait to see te results…..

  • Cal

    The comments section on HuffPo today is priceless.

    • Jimni27

      should have read your post first, lol. My favorite was MSNBC is finally a fair, left answer to FOX.

    • beebop1952

      Not until they find a cure for most of what is posted there.

    • Neil Leininger

      I could only read about 12 before throwing up.

      • RightThinking1

        Neil & Beebop,
        Just remember, always wash your hands after you leave Huff Po.

        • SpinMeNot

          And if it burns when you urinate — see a doctor immediately.

          • Judy B

            Unless you’re repelling a rapist.

        • Judy B

          And brain bleach, don’t forget the brain bleach.

    • thetreyman

      i just went there to read some of the comments. the best they can come up with is that msnbc is better because it is “opinion based on facts.” they must look like pretzels right about now. i swear, you cant make this stuff up.

      • RightThinking1


        Yeah, I stopped over there to see how they were reacting. I also encountered that ‘opinion based on facts’, and was also directed to the the Huff Po splash of about six months ago where they touted a ‘study’ by Fairleigh Dickinson that concluded that Fox watchers are ‘less informed’ than viewers of other sources. What follows is my response. The ‘study’ actually is revealing of a far more interesting fact:

        I hesitate to respond, because it is likely to be a lengthy discussion, nonetheless, some comment seems necessary. I do not feel the slightest need to defend Fox or anyone else, but I do not like the trend towards opinion being misrepresented as ‘news’.

        The Farleigh Dickinson poll, and results, are hauled out fairly often as a cudgel for beating on Fox News. As we all know, polls can be formulated to indicate what one wishes. As a starter, I would ask if you have read the poll, and considered the means by which it was evaluated?

        I have. There is certainly nothing about the formulation of the questions that would seem to skew the results in one way or another, but the interpretation of the results, or least the manner in which they were reported, leaves a lot to be desired.

        The first curious matter is that FD does not overtly state the specific mix of self-identified Democrats/Republicans/Independents, which would be easy, given the fact they specifically asked the question. Moreover, note that a significant number of the respondents obtained some news from sources other than the broadcast news in question, e.g., newspapers.

        The next curious thing is that the ‘study’ abruptly (under Effects of Ideological Media) makes a leap to ‘Liberal’ vs, ‘Conservative’ in their analysis. Well…, that’s interesting, since there is no evidence that they asked the respondents if they self-identified as one or the other, nor is there any indication of how self-identified Independents were incorporated in the statistics. In short, FD presumably *assumed* that self-identified Reps are conservative, Dems liberal, and Independents…, well…, we will never know.

        Note also that this ‘conclusive’ poll consisted of 4 questions regarding international news, and 5 questions regarding domestic news. Let’s look at those.

        For question K1, regarding Hosni Mubarak, 79 Dems answered correctly, and
        85 Reps answered correctly. It is worth noting that 42 Independents answered correctly. What is curious is that the total number of respondents only comes to 502. Where did the other 683 of the 1185 people go? It is also worth noting that the wrong and ‘I don’t know’ answers by Dems outweighed Reps by 122/115.

        K2, regarding Syria. 117 Dems got it right vs. 112 Reps. Once again, hard to know how those independents lean, but the only data that I am aware of places them at 45% Republican-leaning, vs. 35% Democrat-leaning. What to do with the rest, I do not know. IF the Independents were scored in that way, that would bump the Reps to 135.4 vs. 135.2, pretty much a wash.

        K3, regarding EU bailout. Again, Reps edge out Dems 56 to 53.

        K4, Iran. Reps edge Dems, 98 to 86

        K5, House makeup. Dems edge Reps 139 to 125. On the other hand, more Dems answer ‘I don’t know’, then Reps.

        K6A hardly seems worth looking at , as 72% of respondents answered ‘I don’t know’. Reps and Dems about evenly split on the right answer.

        K6B, Iowa caucus. Again…, kind of iffy, as 33% answered ‘I don’t know’ (72 Dem vs. 50 Rep), but 90 Reps got it right, and only 74 Dems.

        K7, 122 Reps got it right, 90 Dems. Again, a fairly high percentage of ‘I don’t know’, 44%, but among them 90 Dems, 71 Reps.

        K8, unemployment. 77 Dems got it right, 92 Reps. Among Dems, ‘I don’t knows’ were 55 vs. 32 among Reps.

        So…, WHAT is going on here? My conclusion is that the single meaningful (and I believe irrefutable) fact that might be extracted from this survey is that Republicans and Independents are better informed than Democrats. The study makes no mention of how conservatives or liberals were classified, more specifically, there is no mention of how Independents were classified. Whole segments of the survey population seem to evaporate. In spite of the fact that cable news viewership of Fox News runs about 3 to 1 relative to, say, MSNBC, 44% of respondents say they watch some MSNBC vs. 55% watch some Fox. I’m not sure how to interpret that…, but the survey maintains that the ideologically-committed are not much affected by viewing non-favored sources.

        Although the ‘study’ (and Huff Po headline) crows about Fox News, it is impossible to reach any conclusion, other than that which I have already stated based on this report.

        I invite a countervailing analysis.


    • Rulz

      Have this site and the blaze surpassed them yet?

    • SpinMeNot

      Today ? Any day … when I’m feeling down in the dumps, I go read the comments on HuffPo. I’m instantly thankful that God gave me a brain, a heart, and courage.

  • Mister A

    I love that the article has a photo slideshow of “Maddow over the years” like she’s changes so much over time. LOL! It’s like 27 snapshots of the exact same look.

    • brewerandpatriot

      Maddow; a study of the fe-mullet’s evolution into a chili bowl.

    • Judy B

      Please pass the brain bleach.

  • Jimni27

    The comments section in that article are comedy gold. or, what cal said.

  • DavidKramer

    The funniest part about the whole thing? HuffPo exposes themselves as well. I think someone should come up with a liberal bias indecent exposure award. I nominate HuffPo for the first one with that tweet.

  • Marty Luther

    Imagine the wave of “startle” that swept through @HuffingtonPost . Like old people waking up from their nap to cold soup on their food tray. Oh, the humanity….

  • Silenttype78

    Bookmark the page with PEW study and paste a link in a reply to every low info lib-prog voter that dares type “Faux News” in an attempt to discredit Fox.
    We must use facts to fight stupid!

    • Garth Haycock

      That’s a good idea, but those folks are incapable of understanding what that study is about. The comments on that page are proof.

    • Judy B

      Hat tip

  • JR48

    And in other news, water is wet.

  • Spatial Awareness

    I’M SHOCKED!!!! #SaidNoOneEVER ==> “MSNBC dominated by opinion, not factual news”

  • Neil Leininger

    Scientists are now reporting water is wet.

  • ErskinFlibberJabber

    in other news…the sun is HOT. And we are investigating the claim that…ice is…COLD!

    • Neil Leininger

      No chance, oil/gas are causing it to be hot, so there is no ice left? You should watch more MSNBC so you don’t get confused.

  • John Kerry’s Forehead

    Yes, there are those who are shocked by this. They’re called “low-info voters” like my in-laws who are very much RIGHT wing but voted for Obama because they get their information about candidates from MSNBC. This was source of bug argument in October last year

  • Maxx

    I cant seem to recall Walter Cronkite or Peter Jennings ever having tingles up their legs.

    THAT explains the state of journalists over at MSDNC.

    • Jimni27

      Or them calling presidential candidates D*uche bags.

    • Garth Haycock

      Yeah, all Cronkite did was lie about the Tet Offensive and turn public opinion during the war in Vietnam.

      • Maxx

        There’s a granite wall in Washington that would be a lot shorter if public opinion had “turned” earlier.

        USN (ret).

  • Jim

    HuffPo officially wins the Captain Louis Renault Award for this week.

  • TocksNedlog

    HuffPo was ‘startled’ that the 15% number was that high.

  • Michelle

    Those of us paying attention, utilizing critical thinking skills and the ability to determine fact vs. fiction didn’t need a Pew study to tell us this.

  • Rulz

    Pretty good numbers for FOX, considering all the commentary. I would say that only Shep Smith and Brett Baier (himself, not panel) have the hard news, as Bill O’Reilly partially (with Smith) observed.

    As for MSNBC, let’s just I haven’t seen more than five hours of it lifetime including channel surfing and leave it at that.

  • rinodino

    Yet twitchy buries the lead yet again. CNN is the most fair and balance cable news channel yet always gets tagged on sites like this as a left wing liberal channel that’s out to get the tea party…. Doesn’t seem like it, does it?

    • Jimni27

      They didn’t bury the lead, they pretty much quote the Huffpo headline verbatim- blame Huffpo if anyone.

  • SpinMeNot

    I’m shocked, shocked I tell you … shocked people think the factual content is that high.

  • DarkKnight2016

    How Liberals will view this report:

    MSNBC: Opinion based on facts
    Fox: “Reporting” based on lies

  • Guest

    If you go read the comments on the HuffPo article, you’ll see many, many examples of denial at its finest.

  • SJ’s Dad

    I’m shocked . . . .SHOCKED!!!!!!
    ( . . . said nobody EVER!-)

  • Rook Mello

    “I’m so startled…”

  • v.l.

    I don’t buy that for a second! No way there is 14% factual news! I’d say the percentage hovers somewhere in one digits, like zero, perhaps?

  • JD Olson

    I want to get a job doing research like this where the results are a foregone conclusion. I would also like to see appropriate names for MSNBC shows like: “The Echo Chamber”, “I Can Guess That Meme in 5 Seconds”, “I’ll See Your Rage and Raise It to Demonic Possession”, “I Can Talk Louder and Longer w/o Making Sense”, and “The New Chris Hayes Show: The Creepy Factor”. Any that I missed?

  • David


  • JoeMyGodNYC

    Ah, but what this study does NOT examine is how much of that “factual reporting” at Fox New is, in fact, *factual*.

  • Tantalus XVI

    Damage control! Crap they beat me to it.

    “But but but but but but but that doesn’t t mean it isn’t true!”~ Noah Rothman ,Conetta

  • Barack Hussein Sharpton

    Opinions are like azzholes and apparently MessNBC is full of them.