Colorado senate passes magazine limit 18-17; Update: Is Democrat representative going wobbly?

The Colorado has voted 18-17 to pass the controversial House Bill 1224, which bans magazines larger than 15 rounds and threatens to drive manufacturer Magpul out of the state. State Sen. Greg Brophy, a Republican, told his colleagues, “I will willfully and purposefully and civilly disobey this law.”

The measure now heads back to the House for a vote because it was amended in the Senate.

If passed, anyone who currently possesses a magazine that holds more than 15 rounds is able to keep it, though if they transfer or sell the magazine, that individual would face a class 2 misdemeanor charge.

Seven gun control laws have been debated contentiously over the past several days, and reaction to the bill’s passage was swift.

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Update:

Plenty were anxious to roll out the welcome mat for Magpul, and the sweeping scope of Colorado’s gun control package has drawn interest from across the nation.

Update:

There was an unconfirmed report that Democratic Rep. Mike McLachlan might be flip-flopping on HB 1224, which heads back to the state House in its amended form. Some tweets suggest that House Speaker Mark Ferrandino has clamped down, though, although the precise “safe” limit of magazine capacity seems to be just as arbitrary as critics suggest.

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Facing high-capacity magazine ban, Magpul fights to stay in Colorado; Other states welcome with open arms

  • http://www.facebook.com/vox.logicae Vox Logicae

    Where do they even get the 15 round number from? Why not 14 or 16 or 13? What significance does 15 rounds have?

    • Rob

      It’s half of what a police state would have.

    • Rob

      It’s half of what a police state would have.

    • HARP2

      Well if they went to more than 20, they only have 10 fingers and 10 toes.

    • KeyLargo Mary

      NY thinks 7 is plenty.

      • Suze

        NY has some strange logic. It also bans the big gulp soda but permits the purchase of several smaller sizes…Same with guns….It just promotes more purchases of the offending subject and subsequently is pushing the sale of small fire arms.

        • KeyLargo Mary

          Let’s not give them any ideas. Amazingly, in an act of sanity, the court ruled that you cannot capriciously ban or otherwise limit a legal product. If it applies to soda, why not guns? After, all, what could be more “legal” than the God given right of the people to bear arms? “Shall not be infringed” seems pretty straight forward to me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/vox.logicae Vox Logicae

    Where do they even get the 15 round number from? Why not 14 or 16 or 13? What significance does 15 rounds have?

  • b_truit

    Hallelujah! The crime rate in Colorado will now be cut in half since the mags were cut in half! Praise be to liberals who think so wisely with their posteriors. I swear if I lived in that state I’d knock a loud mouthed liberal out telling me 15 rounds makes us safer.

  • b_truit

    Hallelujah! The crime rate in Colorado will now be cut in half since the mags were cut in half! Praise be to liberals who think so wisely with their posteriors. I swear if I lived in that state I’d knock a loud mouthed liberal out telling me 15 rounds makes us safer.

  • http://twitter.com/Stimulus4U Marty Luther

    On the bright side, a judge invalidated Bloomberg’s 32-ounce high-capacity assault “Big Gulp” ban.

    • WisconsinPatriot

      I guess New Yorkers grew t e s t i c l e s overnight. They still are not responsible enough to be trusted with firearms…..

    • WisconsinPatriot

      I guess New Yorkers grew t e s t i c l e s overnight. They still are not responsible enough to be trusted with firearms…..

  • http://twitter.com/Stimulus4U Marty Luther

    On the bright side, a judge invalidated Bloomberg’s 32-ounce high-capacity assault “Big Gulp” ban.

  • CatHerder

    The leftards will exploit this chink in the walls, depend on it. The end is clear, ban guns. I used to think that was crazy talk, until I lived in ‘interesting times’.

  • CatHerder

    The leftards will exploit this chink in the walls, depend on it. The end is clear, ban guns. I used to think that was crazy talk, until I lived in ‘interesting times’.

  • rinodino

    Hip hip… Hurrah!!!!

    • journogal

      Why are celebrating the limit of freedoms? Do you think criminals will abide by the rules? You are thrilled that Colorado is going to loose 600 jobs now? I’m confused, because this law will not make anyone safer. I guess you just are thrilled because our freedoms are slowly slipping away.

      • J. Cox

        He is happy because he is too dumb to think for himself,therefore he cedes that to the government.People like him are happy that Obama says the economy is fine as we add 16T to the debt.He thinks that as long as we have paper and ink…we will always have enough money.

    • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

      Tr: “Durrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

  • rinodino

    Hip hip… Hurrah!!!!

  • tjp77

    These laws are not designed to make anyone safer, they’re to get people used to the idea of being regulated. Before the gun grabbers can get everything they want, they need assert their authority to regulate. Once they’ve established their regulatory powers and the public accepts it, they can push for more. Today it’s 15 round magazines. Tomorrow it’ll be 5 round magazines. And the day after it’ll be everything.

    Its an incrementalist approach towards an outright ban. And we need to stop it dead.

  • tjp77

    These laws are not designed to make anyone safer, they’re to get people used to the idea of being regulated. Before the gun grabbers can get everything they want, they need assert their authority to regulate. Once they’ve established their regulatory powers and the public accepts it, they can push for more. Today it’s 15 round magazines. Tomorrow it’ll be 5 round magazines. And the day after it’ll be everything.

    Its an incrementalist approach towards an outright ban. And we need to stop it dead.

  • $38343398

    This will cause many Dems much pain in the 2014 mid-terms. Nationally, 65% support our 2nd Amendment rights. We need to expose the gun grabbers like they’re pedophiles.

    • Vennoye

      DO NOT ever forget who voted for and against these laws in your state, Colorado!!!! If you do not remove them (the fors) next election you will lose even more of your constitutional rights and freedoms.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ardell.simon Ardell Simon

        and become a Detroit or Chicago!

      • Dave B in AZ

        Start your list. Begin your campaigning.

        • Vennoye

          Great Idea! Find people to support and get behind them now!!

      • Suze

        and a whole lot of your best citizens t’boot.

      • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

        Hard to say. Last election told me that crumbs from the king’s table in the form of wind, ethanol and farm subsidies were more important to northern heartlanders than freedom.

      • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

        Hard to say. Last election told me that crumbs from the king’s table in the form of wind, ethanol and farm subsidies were more important to northern heartlanders than freedom.

    • Dave B in AZ

      I remember 1996. Remember what Clinton said about it? These commie/libs need to be reminded what will happen to them if this passes (out of work in a ObamaRecession). you can always call your governor and express your, uh, dismay should the governor’s pen be used to make this bull-dukey law- n how you and your entire family and friends will make it a special point to get out and vote next time and that this ONE ISSUE is all it takes to define the governor’s loyalty to the Constitution. I called the governor out here in AZ to ask how to join the militia in this state. They were very accommodating. No reason you guys can’t call your governor out there.

      • $38343398

        I’m not from Colorado, I live in Oklahoma where owning guns is like apple pie and college football (sorry, couldn’t resist). However, I do see what’s happening in blue/purple states and it just makes me crazy. If enough blue/purple states lose their minds, then we’re heading down the road to a federal overreach that could get nasty. “Ain’t nobody got time for dat!!!”

    • Suze

      maybe it is wishful thinking but I have this vision of all the senators who had imposed gun restrictions getting booted out, and those who were pro 2nd amendment (dem or rep) being reinstated. What a resounding message that would send.

    • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

      Rasmussen has it at 75%.

    • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

      Rasmussen has it at 75%.

  • glockster23

    Ths once great state of Colorado is fast becoming Boulder statewide. Libtards utopia. Despicable.

    • Suze

      so the liberals will be left to create the jobs there. The wealthy states are swiftly shaping up to be where all the conservatives choose to live.

  • Oldvibe51

    TIME TO TAKE OUT YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT VOTED FOR THIS INFRINGMENT OF YOUR RIGHTS… THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF COLORADO… VIOLATION OF THEIR OATH OF OFFICE… TAKE THEM OUT

  • Clayton Grant

    It is time for the SCOTUS to define “infringed”

    • Joseph Alexander

      I wouldn’t trust the Supreme Court to define a dirty diaper at this point.

      • WisconsinPatriot

        A dirty diaper is clearly a tax! Which makes it legal.

      • WisconsinPatriot

        A dirty diaper is clearly a tax! Which makes it legal.

  • HARP2

    I guess they won`t miss those 600 jobs.

  • annoyinglittletwerp

    Our family reunion is in June in CO. Springs-despite having ZERO family in CO. As a Texan-I’ve no desire to visit a state that wants to trample my second amendment rights. Alas, my mother-in-law won’t change the locale.

    • lily

      Then tell MIL you won’t come. Some things are worth fighting for.

      • annoyinglittletwerp

        By then I should have my TX CHL in hand. I agree.

  • in_awe

    Dem Rep. Jan Schakowsky: “I’m not so sure we can’t ban handguns entirely”

    “…In which Jason Mattera discovers Schakowsky’s Nixonian side. Watching this reminded me of the videos that circulated during the ObamaCare debate of high-profile liberals confessing publicly that single-payer is the ultimate goal of universal health care. In both cases, they’re pushing regulations that are less ambitious than they’d
    prefer because they’ve concluded that only an incrementalist approach can get them to their final destination. Then I remembered: Schakowsky was one of the people in the ObamaCare videos too. No matter how dark your suspicions are of the Democrats’ true
    agenda, there she is, happy to confirm on camera that you’re dead right.”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/03/11/dem-rep-jan-schakowsky-im-not-so-sure-we-cant-ban-handguns-entirely/

  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.jefferies.96 Richard Jefferies

    State Senators think magazine need limits, I say, how about some term limits instead.

    • Calcat36

      Amen. Stop the politicians from assaulting our God given rights!

  • bee

    the people of colorado start taking names of the dirty politicians who sold you out and
    bankrupt your state . americans its time to take up arms and take back our country.

  • Rich

    In the wrong hands what is the difference between two 15 round mags and one 30 round mag?

    • http://www.black-and-right.com/ IceColdTroll

      About 2 seconds, I think. But thank goodness the criminals won’t have those dreadful hi-cap assault magazines either, right?!?

    • Ron Rider

      actually, there is a video on ‘gunway’ that timed the fire rate of 30 round mags and 20 round mag, and 10 round mags… less than 1.5 secs with mag changes and the 20 round mags actually were faster fire rate…

  • mwill

    welcome to texas all the companys planning to esacpe colorado(sp?…ive been drinking)

    • Joseph Alexander

      And you still put together a more coherent thought than 90% of the folks today…

      • WisconsinPatriot

        A conservative with a couple of drinks in him is still a conservative. A liberal with a couple of drinks in him is a stark raving lunatic.

      • WisconsinPatriot

        A conservative with a couple of drinks in him is still a conservative. A liberal with a couple of drinks in him is a stark raving lunatic.

  • Dave B in AZ

    So, what are you guys in Colorado gonna DO about it? bitch n moan? or vote them out? How about getting rid of the governor if this is signed? what ya gonna do?

  • Dave B in AZ

    I believe the term ‘regulate’ needs to be clarified. infringe vs. regulate. When does regulation infringe? Could regulation mean something entirely different than ‘infringe just a little bit”? or maybe the definition is strictly held as having to do with guns being in criminal hands? could be. You people in CO need to define things for your legislators who apparently don’t know either the state Constitution or the federal. Listen: Words in the wrong hands are more dangerous than firearms will EVER be.

    • Joseph Alexander

      In the context of the time in which Constitution was written, it is my understanding that “well-regulated” simply meant “well-equipped.”

      • Calcat36

        In my understanding, it meant that whatever it took from keeping the Redcoats from coming back. Who wears the red coat of oppression today? That’s right, politicians. Of ALL parties. They win election, and suddenly THEIR ideas are more important than the people that serve them, errr, I mean that the serve!

    • Shotski0

      Wrong definition of Regulated… In the time the founders wrote those words, “regulated” meant well trained or skilled. Read the federalist papers. The founders are very clear that their intention was for the people to be armed to defend themselves and the country against the US military, or any other military on the planet.

  • http://twitter.com/MoueLaMoue Moue La Moue (D)

    Magpul will no doubt make good its promise to leave, if Hickenlooper does not decide to veto the bill. I know he won’t. I’m not an idiot, but am amused that he thinks that I am. Much like his colleagues, he thinks a ballpoint assault pen will save me from an attacker.

    My poor state of Colorado. I feel for you today. Someone else can carry a pen. Personally, I prefer to lock and load.

  • ChHarrison

    Will the last Patriot leaving CO please shoot out the lights.

    • WisconsinPatriot

      With the LEGAL number of rounds please!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You voted for them Colorado, now roll around in your own mess!

      • Shotski0

        FYI, In the last session before the election, the democrats redrew the lines on the map to make it so the Democrats took over more seats by cutting into high population areas and combining those voters (mostly refugees from Califormia) into the voting pool of generally conservative areas. We, the Colorado natives, did NOT vote for these bozos! I’ve already decided that if they pass the magazine ban, and the Gov signs it, I will do everything in my power to vote out every single yes voter and the Gov… Failing that, I will be moving 50 miles north into Wyoming!

    • WisconsinPatriot

      With the LEGAL number of rounds please!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You voted for them Colorado, now roll around in your own mess!

  • $38343398

    It’s time to boycott states who infringe on our rights. If at all possible, don’t vacation, don’t purchase manufactured items, don’t even order items distributed from any state who passes laws that infringe on any rights.

    • Suze

      good idea….why don’t you write that up and get it out there.

      • $38343398

        It’s not that much of a strain to do your own research—especially on large purchases or vacation travel. You won’t be able to boycott on every purchase but if enough people are doing it and revealing why, then things might change.

  • Guest

    Folks, you morons that think Magpul is going to move are exactly that………morons. Magpul will get tax breaks……etc to stay in state. They will be given huge government contracts, the government will need them. Do you actually think this is the end? This is just the beginning…………..the INSTANT any gun or accessory I own is made illegal, is the day that my government becomes illegitimate. This is what they are going for folks, the economy is going to implode, the insurrection is coming. Geebus Crist, wake up!

    • kenai

      That’s what S&W thought when they went along with Clinton’s gun proposals in 2000. The next year sales dropped over 40 percent and the market was flooded with used S&Ws. By 2002 the company was on the verge of bankruptcy and was sold in 2003 to a company that immediately repudiated any agreements with the Clinton administration. They’ve done well since then.

      If Magpul doesn’t leave CO after stating that it would, it will lose it’s customer base. Some government contracts and (hypothetical) tax breaks won’t save it if they lose their customer base as did S&W. Their only real choices are to either leave CO or go out of business.

  • DwellsInFire

    15 round magazines are still high-capacity according to Dianne Feinstein. Then again, 10 round magazines are high-capacity according to NY. Welcome to the confused, contradictory, and idiotic world of the liberal mind.

  • Suze

    these senators who are suddenly opting for gun control are not only risking being re elected, but risking the fact that conservatives (who are statistically the income makers) will not want to move to their state, and those there will be more likely to leave. It is so stupid. Case in point, my family is looking into more conservative places to eventually retire, and Colorado had been our first choice until we learned how whacky they had become. It just doesn’t make any sense. Vote the libs out before they bankrupt us all.

  • Guest

    Magpul moving to Texas…
    good move, getting away from the Colorado Comrades.

  • Blake

    If you are American, by birth or by choice, you have not only the
    right to defend the Constitution of these United States, you are obliged
    to do so. If you have enjoyed the liberty, freedom and benefits, that
    up until now, this country has to offer, you, we, are OBLIGATED to
    defend them by whatever means are available to us, and to whatever
    degree is necessary to keep the Constitution whole. That is all.

  • Blake

    The numbers do not matter when we speak of the Constitution. We can decide if we want alcohol sales, or marijuana ,or we can decide the speed limit through town, we elect our officials all by majority, or any number of things, and that is as it should be….right up until the point where the Constitution comes into play. Once the Constitution is in play it doesn’t matter if it is 99% to 1% the 1% is right. They must not be allowed to subvert the Constitution. If they wish to amend the constitution they must obtain the consent of 38 states, until that happens any laws that contradict the Constitution are void and should not, must not, be obeyed.

  • RightThinking1

    Sales of mags in CO soar….

  • JWSR49

    Time to take out the trash, Colorado. I live in Kentucky, but all of us law abiding gun owners, and defenders of the constitution must stick together to remove those who would disavow their oath of office. “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!”

  • Laura Jensen

    Colorado has gone to the wolves.

  • Laura Jensen

    Colorado has gone to the wolves.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeBeq0i03bg Booker

    Thanks for ensuring that Colorado turns red next cycle. Every single time, the Democrats overreach.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeBeq0i03bg Booker

    Thanks for ensuring that Colorado turns red next cycle. Every single time, the Democrats overreach.

  • WisconsinPatriot

    A guy told me, that a buddy of his said that his daughter overheard a conversation at a coffeeshop that MAGPUL is moving to Wisconsin. Just thought I would feed the rumor mill! {BURP}

    • TitzyFritzensimmons

      C’mon, Magpul, Texas is a great place to be! No state income tax and lots of land for a factory.

    • TitzyFritzensimmons

      C’mon, Magpul, Texas is a great place to be! No state income tax and lots of land for a factory.

  • WisconsinPatriot

    A guy told me, that a buddy of his said that his daughter overheard a conversation at a coffeeshop that MAGPUL is moving to Wisconsin. Just thought I would feed the rumor mill! {BURP}

  • walterc

    Small steps, first the magazines, then the guns.

  • shimauma

    Conservative peoples in colorado…MOVE TO AZ!! We appreciate the 2nd amendment here.

  • Calcat36

    Start with the politicians body guards first. Disarm them and show us how it all works out. Oh yeah, publish the names, addresses, phone numbers, and type of weapons the politicians and the body guards own. Force them and the police to to publicly declare what they own. Magpul should leave that state for a more “tolerant and diverse” one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jarod.johnson.357 Jarod Johnson

    Utah thrives and stands by our 2nd.. Colorado is a fast dying state by following california and new york.

  • AZWarrior

    Psssst, wanta big magazine? For a small “fee” we will mail one to you from Arizona.