Debate on Colorado gun grab continues into the night

Make that 12 hours. Debate in Colorado is going strong well into the night as the state senate hears arguments on several gun control bills, including one that would ban concealed carry on college campuses and another that would limit magazines to 15 rounds. As Twitchy reported earlier today, anti-gun tweeters were pushing the #WhatWomenWant hashtag to argue that taking away the choice to own a gun was what all women wanted — never mind the women explicitly asking for the right to carry.

Yes, they did go bonkers. Women weren’t the only ones targeted in the state’s gun grab, however. Colorado seems to be following the path blazed by New York State with its SAFE Act, making sure the criminals are the only ones without limits.

Sen. Steve King provided powerful testimony from his own experience.


Twitchy CEO Michelle Malkin is one of the many citizens paying attention. She followed the hearing as it unfolded Friday night.

By the end of the night, five of the seven measures passed. A final vote is scheduled for Monday.

  • Maxx

    What does it say about the merits of gun legislation that if passed, will be celebrated by only two factions of the public.

    Liberals and criminals.

    • Clayton Grant

      Superb summation Maxx.

    • Chip

      Aren’t they pretty much the same thing?

      • SpinMeNot

        Only the ones in government …

  • Squirrel!

    They don’t care about ppl. They have an agenda! One that Nanny Bloomberg is financing.

  • almarquardt

    What irritates me about all of this is how a few hundred people get to make the decisions that directly affect the safety of my life and that of my family along with millions of others. It’s shameful and disgusting. All because they think they know better than me about my needs.

    • SpinMeNot

      They aren’t concerned with our safety, they are concerned with power, the acquisition and/or maintenance thereof (as pointed out by @Squirell. The unwashed masses demand action without understanding, and the power mongers are happy to act, regardless of the consequences of the actions taken. They gain the support of the unwashed masses/low-information voter and through that support, the power they crave.

      It is shameful and disgusting — but they’ve managed to remove the concept of shame from our society through indoctrination rather than education and an ever increasing media campaign via film, television and radio.

      Disarming the opposition — by taking away the freedom of speech, and the right to keep and bear arms is the first step. It has happened time and time again. Marbury vs. Madison was the first domino … we are about out of dominoes.

    • JBnID

      What irritates me is they want to make me a criminal because I will NOT subject myself to their UN-Constitutional laws.

  • waltermitty2012

    In Colorado recreational marijuana is good but recreational firearms are bad. Talk about getting it backwards.

  • TJ

    No mater what they vote the Supreme will get the final say. If outright banning is not infringement what is.

    • almarquardt

      My problem is we shouldn’t be depending on nine life-members of a body to determine the meaning of our Constitution and other federal laws. That’s our job as citizens. Thomas Jefferson warned us in a letter to Monsignor Corey in 1823:

      “At the establishment of our constitutions, the judiciary bodies were
      supposed to be the most helpless and harmless members of the government.
      Experience, however, soon showed in what way they were to become the
      most dangerous; that the insufficiency of the means provided for their
      removal gave them a freehold and irresponsibility in office; that their
      decisions, seeming to concern individual suitors only, pass silent and
      unheeded by the public at large; that these decisions, nevertheless,
      become law by precedent, sapping, by little and little, the foundations
      of the constitution, and working its change by construction, before any
      one has perceived that that invisible and helpless worm has been busily
      employed in consuming its substance. In truth, man is not made to be
      trusted for life, if secured against all liability to account.”

      • TJ

        Justice John Roberts said in Obamacare to paraphrase that the court is not to save the people from themselves. The people voted for the members who then voted to put them in chains. But with the 2nd Adm is different as the court is the check needed to balance the people.

        • almarquardt

          That is it’s purpose, yes. The problem is since they’re appointed for life, there’s no recourse to bad decisions. Elected officials have used their decisions as law instead of merely opinions. Roe v. Wade is the most obvious example.

          On the other hand, Justice Roberts had a point. It is not up to the court to save us from ourselves. He reiterated that in the end the people have the power via our votes. We can still decide whether or not to eliminate ObamaCare even after it’s fully implemented.

  • GaryTheBrave

    Ten years ago NONE of these bills would have gotten out of committee. I seem to recall the campus carry bill was actually voted in by the people.

    At least I can take heart that they are still debating. I think it’s a good sign for our rights.

    Colorado is one state that has the right to own firearms in the State Constitution. If any of these bills go through it may be challenged as a violation of the State Constitution.

  • crosspatch

    I believe the Democrats are going to experience some serious blowback from this issue come the next election cycle in Colorado.

    • SpinMeNot

      One can only hope. The last time I was in Colorado, there were lots of Obama/Biden bumper stickers. I have a buddy that has a cabin in Colorado — he and his wife have been considering selling it, because they have seen a hard shift to the left in the people.

    • GaryTheBrave

      I agree. Gov. Hickenlooper is seriously thinking of higher office. He may not get another term if he signs these bills should they pass.

      ITMT, our next shot to return the Senate to GOP control is 2014. I believe it’s Sen. Udall’s seat. I have contacted the state party to volunteer to unseat him. I also need to contact TP leaders to find a good conservative candidate. Maybe if Tea Party and Libertarian Party leaders can coalesce on a single candidate we might be able to garner enough support to upset the apple cart IF the GOP plans to put up a weak centrist candidate.

      They didn’t do themselves any favors in the previous gubernatorial campaign. They nominated an unvetted amateur who had too many skeletons in his closet. The party just reelected Brian Call as party chairman because he did SO WELL in the last election. /sarc.

  • b_truit

    What’s reps to not understand anymore is their job description. They are representing their constituents. Regardless of their views, they are supposed to vote how their people would vote. I’d like to knock some heads to get these people thinking straight again.

  • V for Vendetta

    This state has gone off the deep end. Colorado used to be a great sound-minded state. Now, it is turning into Rocky Mountain California.

    • Angie

      It’s the influx of former Californians — like all parasites, once the kill one host, they move on to the next.

      • JBnID

        That makes the ski areas “Vital Tumors”. They pump in an amazing amount of money, but corrupt the entire state with higher taxes and liberal politicians.

  • Jacob Fuerst

    As a Republican, I don’t think there should be an exemption for veterans for a mag ban. Granted, I don’t think there should be a mag ban. But as a man who believes that “all men are created equal and endowed with inalienable rights” and in equal protection under the law, the idea that some American deserve special privileges offends me.

    Military personel and veterans come from every walk of life. Most are honorable, decent, law abiding, patriots who decided to serve their country; and they should be honored for that. But to give them better gun rights is wrong. It is the same as saying only veterans have the right to free speech, or not to testify against themselves. Those rights exist for every American.

    • almarquardt

      I thought the same thing, but you worded it by far better than I could.

    • SpinMeNot

      As a veteran, thank you for the kind words with regard to vets, you are exactly right. There are numerous vets that outside of basic training, rarely fired a rifle again.

      No one should have any more or any fewer right with regards to guns. The only thing the federal government needs to know is in the 2nd Amendment. The right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. However, the progressives like to pick and choose the important parts of the Constitution. They don’t understand, the parts are all equally important.

      edit: senior moment, make that the 2nd amendment.

  • Rose Roberts

    Why dont they just start copying Chicago also and become total winners of the criminal infested lotery death system? Go women of Colorado. Stand strong against devourers of 2ndthe ammend.

  • WisconsinPatriot

    Well, if Colorado is having a Wisconsin moment, then the dems are hurling death threats around like beads at Mardi Gras and the police are ignoring them. The Colorado capitol must stink of urine,pot and hippies. The representatives from the pro 2nd camp must be being assaulted regularly. And finally when they do vote, and the vote doesn’t go their way, the dems will start to shout SHAME SHAME SHAME(like the kindergartners they are). This looks kinda tame to me.

  • ProfShadow

    The only reason someone wants to disarm you is to gain power over you.
    Criminal or tyrant; it matters not.

  • CatHerder

    Wow. Thirty years ago if you wanted to learn gunsmithing, you went to school in Colorado. At least, all the gunsmiths I knew had. What the hell happened?

  • AlertUpUSA

    Anti-gunners want defenseless worms to chase, hunt and dispose.

    Why is the debate even taken seriously? It is carved in stone in our founder’s charters, the debate has no basis in reality, and it will enable more government infringement. Oh, and criminals will really like it….. Not to mention those outside our borders looking for a disarmed populace ( recall Emperor Hirohito’s reluctance to invade USA due to the number of armed Americans having “more guns than blades of grass”).

  • Tom Bannigan

    Make the anti Americans feel it every time they are seen in public. Turn your backs to them, and boo them loudly.