Ask the expert: David Frum’s ‘Plan B’ for gun control inspires #GunQuestionsFromLiberals

In a blog post at, David Frum argued today that President Obama needs a “Plan B” on guns. It seems to us the Second Amendment already offers a plan on guns, and we don’t really know what Obama’s “Plan A” is or was: was it the president’s list of 23 executive actions, or his State of the Union call for a vote on an assault weapon ban? Regardless, Frum must suspect that the bitter clingers will scuttle Plan A, and so he’s offering his own backup plan.

Part of the plan involves enlisting the help of the surgeon general to demonstrate through a study that guns are bad for the owner’s health. Another suggestion is to place safety regulations on gun manufacturers, requiring firearms to, say, be equipped with indicator lights to show that they’re loaded.

Frum writes that gun manufacturers design guns in a way that helps criminals — though we don’t see how that indicator light would help a potential victim trying to hold off an intruder by bluffing with an empty handgun. (Do you feel lucky, punk? Blink, blink.) Hopefully, the owner would be responsible for knowing what’s in the chamber.

Hey, if we’re going to let Sen. Dianne Feinstein present herself as an expert on firearms, why not Frum? He couldn’t know less.

As long as we’re getting all technical, why not ask the expert some of these burning #GunQuestionsFromLiberals?

Laugh it up now, because it won’t be so funny when America’s Doctor stops doing whatever it is she’s been doing and slaps a “firearms can be dangerous” label on every bullet.

  • David Crosby

    “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson

    • Frustrated Teacher

      Jefferson must have forseen the ‘gun buy-back’ programs like have gone on in my area the past few weeks. Just a quick look at what was turned in shows mostly shotguns and rifles, most of which are too rusty to even work. Studies have shown most of the guns turned in are NOT the kind used in most gun crimes and the people who turn them in are the LEAST like to COMMIT a crime with a gun. Cities who do this look like suckers….

  • TugboatPhil

    I don’t need the Surgeon General to determine that MY guns are very hazardous to the health of anyone breaking into my house or attempting to harm my family in public.

  • Frustrated Teacher

    Katie Pavlich for the win!! Just plain perfect! This idiot obviously knows NOTHING about guns except what his liberal grabbers have told him and written. That is an impressive level of ignorance for a ‘journalist’ to display!

  • Kingofthehill

    As a Licensed NRA firearms instructor the 1st thing i teach (as well as everyone else i know) are the 4 rules to gun ownership.

    Jeff Cooper’s 4 rules fo gun ownership.
    1- All guns are ALWAYS loaded
    2- Never point the gun at anything you aren’t ready or willing to kill or destroy
    3- Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot
    4- Be aware of your target and what is behind it at all times.

    BTW- Someone tell this idiot that all new handguns have a loaded chamber indicator showing you that the firearm IS in fact loaded or not.

    We don’t need more gun control, we need IDIOT control

    • syvyn11

      But if we had ‘idiot control’ who would write for the New York Times?

      • WisconsinPatriot


      • robcrawford2

        Wouldn’t that be part of the “control”? Rather than make them wear signs saying “I’m an Idiot”, have them wear name tags saying “I was published in the New York Times”. Same message, but the poor dears will think they’re bragging.

    • saneskeptic

      Good on ya, but do give appropriate credit to Jeff Cooper.

      • Kingofthehill

        Edited original post. I had no intentions on claiming it as my own.

        • saneskeptic

          Never thought you did, but I do think Cooper deserves credit for the great things he has written. Gun safety starts right there.

          • Kingofthehill

            Sorry, via text that could be taken in a negative tone. I fully agree that people like Jeff Cooper, Clint Smith and Massad Ayoob deserve massive credit in the firearm world for their promotion of safety and awareness.

    • Hiraghm
    • $35072932

      Yes, if he had done any research and darkened the doorstep of a gun store he would have noticed that by rote the employees will always check the chamber when handing a gun to a customer.

      And even if they’ve been standing there the whole time, they will recheck the chamber when putting it back on the shelf.

      Buts that’s assuming he would want to learn about the subjects upon which he is pontificating.

  • Tangchung

    Frum needs a light on a knife to butter bread.

  • GoSellCrazySomeplaceElse

    #SurgeonGeneral’sWarning Getting shot may add too much lead to your diet.

  • RightThinking1

    Most knives do not have the sharp edge labeled. Probably a problem for Frum, but that aside, if there is a bullet in the chamber, then you’re going to have a pretty tough time getting a cartridge in there too

    • yojo

      actually, I have seen quite a few warning labels that the knife is sharp…sigh

      • kenai

        Is that something like a warning that use of a ladder may cause a fall?

    • Lady 12

      Now that you mention it, most bow and arrows don’t have sharp warnings on them either.

    • robcrawford2

      On the other hand, claymores DO have “this side towards enemy” on them.

      • Hiraghm

        I assume that’s written on the blade of the claymore?

  • Maxx

    Someone should tell this poster boy for gun ignorance that the first rule of gun safety is to ALWAYS assume a bullet is chambered. Gun owners don’t need imbecilic liberals to “come to our rescue” so we can have flashing lights on our 1911’s or polymers to “warn us” that the damn thing might actually have a bullet inside.

  • Tangchung

    Blinking lights cause gun violence, ask my old shot up VCR

  • Garth Haycock

    Mr. Frum – what part of “shall not be infringed” are you incapable of understanding?

  • Keyser Soze

    Why is every gun-grabber Jewish?

    • Kingofthehill

      I sure would hope not. There is a huge organization for Jewish people called “JPFO” which means Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership. You would think groups like Jews and Blacks that have been oppressed would refuse to ever NOT be armed.

    • robcrawford2

      They’re not.

      • Keyser Soze

        I didnt mean to say that every Jewish person was anti-gun. What i meant was how come whenever you read an article thats pro-gun control, it seems like the person is almost always Jewish.

  • Kingofthehill

    Does he mean a “Loaded Chamber Indicator”? Idiot Doesn’t get more clear than this

    • Conservative First

      Glocks have a little space in the back of the ejection port that lets you see if brass is in it. Still common sense says to check it every time you take possession of it. Too hard for liberals to understand.

      • Kyle Schroeck

        My S&W 40 also has a space to see brass. My Ruger 380 has the pop up indicator.

    • saneskeptic

      Until there’s a blinking red light and siren GUN IS LOADED! GUN IS LOADED!

  • John

    When I was a kid, people would refer to someone like Frum as “someone who doesn’t know his a s s from a hole in the ground”.

    Why are so many of them in the media?

    • Kevin Krom

      Would YOU hire them for an honest job? Media is the only place they can find work.

      • GW

        Media and Congress, I’m sad to say.

  • dunst43

    Didn’t notice anything about ‘shall not be infringed’ in David Frum’s little story.

    • robcrawford2

      He thinks “infringed” refers to a decorative border. Like the one between the US and Mexico.

  • Matthew Koch

    David Frum looks like the Matt Damon doll from Team America: World Police.

    MATT DAMON!!!!

  • DwellsInFire

    (1) My Walther P-38 has a little pin that sticks out when there is a round in the chamber so you can tell just by looking at it. If that’s what he wants, then get a P-38

    (2) Apparently libs don’t know that every gun has a safety switch. So it doesn’t matter whether there’s a round in the chamber, it’s not going to fire with the safety on.

    • tjp77

      Haha.. I was just about to write the same thing. I have a Walther P99 with that feature as well.

    • Jacksie

      Revolvers do not have a safety switch[sic]

    • robcrawford2

      Not all guns have safety switches. My Springfield XD has “passive” safeties.

      (And don’t trust safeties! They’re mechanical devices, they CAN malfunction. Follow the basic rules and you’re better off.)

    • DaveTea

      The only real safety is to keep your booger hook off the bang switch…

      But to be serious, not all firearms have a safety, I have several modern pistols that do not.

  • tjp77

    Typical liberal solution: If your idea is so unpopular that it can’t get through the constitutionally sanctioned legislative process, just find some kind of regulatory back door to get done whatever you wanted anyway. Screw the constitution and the people; they’re too dumb to know what’s best for them anyway.

  • Steve_J

    Congress could also do a lot to ensure “responsible use of the Frist Amendment”. How would little Davie lilke that?

  • lissa

    Wow. I’m a new NRA member, have not yet fired a gun (but am signing up for lessons before even beginning to acquire my own) and even *I* knew that every gun is considered loaded! My son, at age 13, was taught by our local police (when, after a break-in at our house, we took a guided tour of their station and he was allowed to hold an unloaded Glock). He was told, right there, every safety rule of the gun within minutes. And he has retained that knowledge!

    Is David Frum for real?

  • JustLikeAnimals

    Dear Mr. Frum,

    Determining whether a round is chambered or not is a relatively easy process for pistols, revolvers, rifles, and shotguns. Try this: Look into the dark little hole at the end of the barrel and slowly squeeze the trigger. You’ll receive immediate, positive feedback as to status of the chamber.

    Works EVERY time. Have fun!

    You’re welcome.

  • Jack Deth

    David Frum asks:

    Why doesn’t every gun automatically indicate whether there’s a bullet in the chamber?


    Beretta pistols have had an identification system for a round in the chamber since the 1940s. And was a feature highly advertised (Along with a useless “De-cocking device”,
    Ribbed Trigger Guard for Cold Weather/Chem Warfare environs. And several other silly bells and whistles) and mandated by Congress when the US armed forces adopted the Beretta 92 model as its basic sidearm.

  • sorleyboy

    Frum is not only a NeoCon idiot and asshat, he is a wimp. He’s probably never held a firearm. But his ilk always has paid bodyguards to do the dirty work. And by the way, there is no such thing as an “accidental discharge” of a firearm; there is only a “negligent discharge.” Oh, and to the Democrats and NeoCons re gun control–Molon Labe!

  • robcrawford2

    “Even in David Frum’s world I don’t understand how the surgeon general even effectively helps out with gun control.”

    Better ergonomic designs? Ways to avoid callouses, blisters, and “slide bite”?

  • Jack Deth

    David Frum asks:

    “Why doesn’t every gun automatically indicate whether there’s a bullet in the chamber?”

    NRA’s First Rule in Gun Safety: ALWAYS assume a firearm is loaded!

    • therantinggeek

      Someone should have told that to DiFi. That, and to remind her to NEVER point a firearm at someone, loaded or otherwise.

      • Jack Deth

        Hi, ranting:

        That’s the NRA’s second rule of firearm safety.

        Third, is always point your firearm down and/or down range.

        Fourth is always be sure of your back drop. (What’s beyond your target.)

        • therantinggeek

          I was taught the same rules when I went through basic training at Fort Jackson. :)

  • Peter York

    It’s all just building a wall one brick at a time: they establish a “need” and their “right and authority” to deal with it, a precedent is set, and here they come for the next acid bath eroding the 2nd.

  • SJ’s Dad

    Now does your .357 Magnum actually hold a litre and a half of wine, or as the number suggests, only about half a bottle or a split, in which case, how can you call it “Magnum”?

  • $23639361

    david frum, like ALL libtarded leftist morons, simply thinks “guns are icky & hurt people” …thus, they should all be banned because he and his fellow NYT-worshipping metrosexual travelers don’t like them… and they just can’t fathom why the rest of America doesn’t think like them. Seems that the better Plan B would be to just fence off kalifornia and put all the libtards there… I’d chip in for that!

  • J.N. Ashby

    “Gun makers often design their weapons in ways that present no benefit for lawful users but that greatly assist criminals”

    Like the barrel that points at the user of the gun. That part’s pretty bad.

  • mike_in_kosovo

    Frum would benefit from an Eddie Eagle class, especially the part about “tell an adult”.