MSM serves up big, steaming pile of BS about former Navy SEAL who shot Osama bin Laden

Esquire got the ball rolling with its story claiming that the Navy told the former Navy SEAL who shot Osama bin Laden, “Your coverage is over … Go fuck yourself”:

“I left SEALs on Friday,” he said the next time I saw him. It was a little more than thirty-six months before the official retirement requirement of twenty years of service. “My health care for me and my family stopped at midnight Friday night. I asked if there was some transition from my Tricare to Blue Cross Blue Shield. They said no. You’re out of the service, your coverage is over. Thanks for your sixteen years. Go fuck yourself.”

The government does provide 180 days of transitional health-care benefits, but the Shooter is eligible only if he agrees to remain on active duty “in a support role,” or become a reservist. Either way, his life would not be his own. Instead, he’ll buy private insurance for $486 a month, but some treatments that relieve his wartime pains, like $120 for weekly chiropractic care, are out-of-pocket. Like many vets, he will have to wait at least eight months to have his disability claims adjudicated. Or even longer. The average wait time nationally is more than nine months, according to the Center for Investigative Reporting.

The story spread like wildfire on the Internet thanks in part to “real journalists” like Ezra Klein and Sarah Kliff of the Washington Post.

Just two problems.

First, contrary to what Klein and others initially wrote, the former Navy SEAL has health insurance:

Oops!

Second, it turns out that the former SEAL is eligible for at least five years of free health care through the Department of Veterans Affairs — a rather important fact that somehow was omitted in both the original Esquire article and the MSM’s follow-up coverage.

Brandon Friedman, who used to be a public affairs officer for the VA, was among the first to call BS:

The author of the Esquire article, Phil Bronstein, responded to Friedman that the “5-year provision is in the story.”

More BS. Bronstein’s article makes no mention of the 5-year provision.

And get this: Rather than issue a correction and apology for smearing the military, Bronstein is standing by his bogus story. According to Stars and Stripes reporter Megan McCloskey, Bronstein said “the assertion that the government gave the SEAL ‘nothing’ in terms of health care is both fair and accurate, because the SEAL didn’t know the VA benefits existed.”

What?

Even more absurd: Bronstein stated that there wasn’t room in his 15,000-word article to include any information about the former SEAL’s eligibility for VA health benefits.

You can say that again.

Was the longtime Navy SEAL really ignorant of his VA health benefits, as Bronstein asserts? Some Twitter users find that claim really hard to believe:

Meanwhile, hours after the story was debunked, the MSM plowed ahead with its false narrative:

Layers and layers of fact-checkers score again:

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Update:

Lying liars at Esquire double down, falsely claim they disclosed former Navy SEAL’s eligibility for VA benefits

  • Bob Smooper

    Bin Laden was illegally murdered and all those in the SEAL team must be punished by the highest court of law and sentenced to hard labour.

    • NRPax

      Mark, may I suggest you get a bit more tea in your system before posting? You completely forgot to add “international criminal court” or “war crimes tribunal.” Everything OK back home?

    • TomJB

      OK, Mark, you go knock on their doors and conduct “citizen’s arrests” lol

    • grais

      Your opinion has absolutely nothing to do with this story. Any particular reason?

      • TocksNedlog

        It’s his way.

    • http://twitter.com/DavidMarcussen David Marcussen

      I’m not the least bit surprised by Mr. Cooper’s response… rather ironic given his support for this Administration and it’s disdain for the Military!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

      Hard labor camps? Where, pray tell, may we find those, Comrade?

      • TocksNedlog

        Breaking rocks at Leavenworth!

        What? That’s what Col. Potter always threatened Klinger with on M*A*S*H.

    • http://www.facebook.com/darwin.g.price Darwin Gene Price

      That is an idiotic statement.

      • http://www.facebook.com/corey.dennison Corey Dennison

        Consider that it comes from an idiotic poster.

    • americansagainstobama

      Wow, is this moonbat serious?

      • TocksNedlog

        He IS a serious moonbat.

      • Kevin Krom

        No, he’s just trolling. Better to simply downvote and ignore him. He feeds off the attention.

    • jkdvsass

      Now, I know you must have been kidding, but you come across as serious. Why would you defend the man responsible for 3000 deaths in America? Why should OBL deserve any protection from any law of any country? And most importantly, how long did it take you to gnaw through your restraints?

    • skypilot77

      If this is true, then start with the one who brags about giving the order to take out UBL

    • thetawake

      “Bin Laden was trolled and all those in the troll troll must be trolled by the highest troll of troll and trolled to hard troll.” – Mark Cooper

    • Cappy Paxton

      Punished, starting with the POTUS – working the way down to you for putting such an inflammatory post up where everyone could see it. At least we can’t add prideful to your list of shortcomings. A human with an ounce of pride would never stoop so low.

    • TocksNedlog

      Your act is getting stale.

      Huh? What? Oh, okay. I’ll start again. Ahem . . .

      Your act was BORN stale.

    • Tommy

      Like he “illegally” sent four planes to take the lives of thousands of innocent people. Yeah, had that murderer turned himself in he’d experience the justice he denied his victims.

      So no, Osama got exactly what he deserved. I only wished his demise were slow and more painful.

      And by the way those Seals are true heroes deserving of praise. What have you done but blather leftist talking points.

      Liberals, an exercise in repugnance.

    • lainer51

      Let’s go for it… that would start with POTUS.

    • http://www.facebook.com/corey.dennison Corey Dennison

      Then your hero Obammy would be at the top of the docket.

      Why must you bring the stupid to every single thread in which you post?

    • caligula

      troll on troll. keep on trollin.

    • $26547161

      Mark, are you a product of incest?

  • NRPax

    I’m not overly surprised that Esquire ran with this story. It has everything that reinforces their mistaken beliefs. Heck, the whole “disenfranchised veteran, cut loose by an uncaring government” meme is like porn to them.

    • TocksNedlog

      Ever since “Taxi Driver”

      • NRPax

        Heck, before that. Hawaii Five O did an episode called King of the Hill back in 69 that was about a Vietnam vet having flashbacks.

        • Take Back Something or Other

          Jack Lord was just a tool of the Marxists, pushing Stokely Carmichael’s hateful agenda. It’s so obvious.

  • RedDish

    I understand the article was misleading about the SEAL’s VA benefits, but what is missing from this is the fact that his family, who ‘served’ as well, were dumped from all military benefits. There is no fall back position for them, including protection from peace-loving islamists.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sean.claffie.3 Sean Claffie

    Wait a minute, I thought obama killed Osama bin Laden?

    • TocksNedlog

      With a skeet gun, while wearing mom fatigues.

      • spot_the_dog

        …and a push-bike helmet. #safetyfirst

        • TocksNedlog

          Lord knows, the last thing we need is for him to sustain a long-term brain injury and become indistinguishable from his second-in-command.

          • John (magnum)

            “The Messiah” KING OBONGO already has a long term brain injury called ‘liberal mental disorder’.

            He is a loon in the first degree !!!!

          • Porter Browning

            You should be hanged, traitor.

          • ForTheRepublic

            Yeah, how DARE this peasant “John” question our King. HANG HIM!

          • FBIkidnappedME

            The Bin Laden story was an orchestrated diversion released 3 days after Obama showed his birth certificate.

          • tredglx

            “I’m sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we’re Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration.”
            ― Hillary Rodham Clinton

        • $337172

          That’s Obama and Pelosi for you! They WANT you to “bring a knife to a gun fight.”

          After all, when you are getting robbed at gunpoint by some thug who is enjoying our “tax dollars at work,” the Obama Administration wants to make it so that you can’t roll out justice.

          It won’t be long now before Liberals decide that certain knives must be registered and regulated too.

          It would be much more helpful to TAKE GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF CRIMINALS before these wacky Liberal extremists (and their propaganda team in the main stream media) try to take this RIGHT away from good, trustworthy American citizens.

          If Obama had his way, America’s gun laws will closely resemble those strict gun laws in Mexico — where only the thugs, drug lords, politicians and celebrities are “bearing arms” and everyone else suffers for it.

          • Ed Haas

            Not a Republican huh? ooooookkkkaaaaayyyyy….

          • $337172

            I am a young, Conservative Hispanic female who leans “Libertarian” in terms of ideology…even if I trend toward Republicans more often than not. I am not beholden to any party, Mr. Ed.

          • plaingolf

            We can read your posts without the bolds. Thanks.

          • steelers01

            get a life!

          • Ed Haas

            Not a Republican huh? ooooookkkkaaaaayyyyy….

          • in4d net

            Bringing a knife to a gun fight.

            You mean like passing gun laws regulating law-abiding citizens and expecting criminals to follow suit?

            You mean like ignoring the fact that the definition of “criminal” means that no matter how many laws you pass, it won’t stop the bad guys?

            You mean like when a former cop decides to play Samuel Jackson’s Danny Roman from “The Negotiator” and LAPD can’t seem to find him?

            I cannot help but wonder what they expect to happen when you are better with the knife than the ones with the guns are at wielding their guns?!

          • $337172

            No, no, no sweety.

            You cannot pass laws that REMOVE the right to bear arms from GOOD, TRUSTWORTHY Americans, “Jane.” Why is it that Liberals think that the solution is to remove a right from GOOD citizens in some ridiculous and stupid hope that CRIMINALS will do the same?

            As for the LAPD cop: He was a crazy man. His manifesto is filled with love for Obama, MSNBC and liberal politicians and extreme HATE for the NRA. Yeah, he was a wacko.

            The point about the knife was that a GOOD, HONEST, DECENT CITIZEN can effectively shoot and disarm a knife-welding criminal.

            This is especially true with the millions of guns illegally owned by CRIMINALS in this country. They aren’t giving up their arms — no matter how often Obama tells them to.

            BTW, I do believe in “gun control.” PERPETUAL or VIOLENT CRIMINALS and the INSANE should be restricted from gun ownership. The rest of us can be trusted with owning and operating a firearm appropriately.

            Americans aren’t worried about Joe the Hunter or Bob the Plumber owning guns. Americans are suffering most of the violence at the hands of VIOLENT THUGS who will not give up their guns even if Congress passes an unconstitutional law.

            Gun laws will be as effective to criminals as drug laws that Liberals whine and complain about.

          • in4d net

            Bringing a knife to a gun fight.

            You mean like passing gun laws regulating law-abiding citizens and expecting criminals to follow suit?

            You mean like ignoring the fact that the definition of “criminal” means that no matter how many laws you pass, it won’t stop the bad guys?

            You mean like when a former cop decides to play Samuel Jackson’s Danny Roman from “The Negotiator” and LAPD can’t seem to find him?

            I cannot help but wonder what they expect to happen when you are better with the knife than the ones with the guns are at wielding their guns?!

        • rakesbill

          …worn backwards

      • Scott Carroll

        What’s the Kenyan word for “Pull!”

        • JMichael Leonard

          “Pull.”

          • Strider73

            The Swahili word is “kuvuta” according to Google Translate.

        • http://www.facebook.com/judine3 Judith Ne

          Higher taxes.

      • Canadian in USA

        I thought it was in the Dining Room with the Candlestick.

    • Patrick Fras

      then finished him off with his old standby…the sand wedge.

      • lainer51

        and scissors

    • Guest

      I thought Barky bashed him to death with his Nobel Peace Prize?

    • FBIkidnappedME

      Obama killed Osama 3 days after releasing his birth certificate because we all needed our attention diverted from that ridiculous document.

    • Marbran

      He’ll remind us all again that he killed Osama during tonight’s SotU.

  • http://www.facebook.com/darwin.g.price Darwin Gene Price

    Having been a veteran of the Korean conflict, i have sympathy for this man, however he knew the rules going in. There are many people without health care.

    • detroit19

      TY for your service, sir.

    • reality check

      My husband served 26 years as a USAF pilot RESERVIST. However, most of those years were ACTIVE DUTY. We missed the AD retirement by 1 year – aged out because he decided to switch from Army to Air Force when he was in his 20’s. Friends who were able to get AD retirements have Tricare for Life for some 500/year-ish. We would have to pay over 900/month for our family of six (four sons + sports = lots of doctor visits).

      If it weren’t for his 15 years with American Airlines (seven years of that he was on active duty), we’d be screwed… and may I add that American is in BK?

      How much is that Obamacare again? 20K/year? Lordy… we’re in BIG trouble!

  • oneword

    Liars

  • peteee363

    why would the media be surprised by lack of support by veterans, since they wish we would close up the whole department of defense anyway? also, with looming sequestration cuts, even more pay and benefits will soon be cut from our vets. current and past soldiers are not unionized, so they are easy targets for democrats.

  • grais

    So Bronstein says the truth is in his article and then says there wasn’t any room in his article for the truth?
    Am I reading that correctly?

    • spot_the_dog

      I think he was kind of making it up as he went along. I don’t think he expected to be fact-checked.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GD6WGI5UGQYOUQRGSAK42NCIFI JustLurkin

        I’ve read this kind of crap from these guys before, like back in the 70’s and 80’s. This had the exact same smell. Heavy on the “feelings” and no verifiable facts, all leading to a giant riot of indignation. BONUS FEATURE: Even if any of this is true, (like now I’m doubting he actually talked to a seal) the subject CANNOT refute because of his position and circumstances. Well played, liars, well played.

    • TocksNedlog

      Which reads more dramatically?
      “He isn’t receiving any benefits!”
      — or —
      “He doesn’t know that he’s eligible for benefits.”

      It’s like when a ‘news’ report begins with “there is a controversial new study/program out today” which is followed by a description and an interview with whoever is behind it — and NO INTERVIEW WHATSOEVER with anyone that supposedly objects to the program or disagrees with the study’s findings. [see, for example: ABC World News Tonight any night of the week]

    • Jesse Malkin

      Yes, it seems so.

  • 2ifbyT

    But wait! Obamacare is supposed to ensure that everyone has insurance. Even vets. Is this another one of those “we have to pass the bill to know what’s in it” moments?

    On a more serious note, there is an epidemic of service members being shown the door just short of qualifying for a pension (which they cannot live alone – they will need a job after the military to make ends meet) and retirement benefits, which include low-cost healthcare. This trend started about four years ago. Hmmm.

    • Scott H

      no no no…remember, we had to “pass it to find out what was in it.”
      …Well, Surprise!!!!

    • joejohnson043

      lots of people have their rates going up because of Obamacare. By the time it kicks in, we’ll be up crap creek and there will be nothing you can do about it.

      • Worship Dancer

        and that also includes the military retirees. my costs for tricare went up 1 Feb AND come 1 Oct my tricare gets CUT to tricare pays even LESS because i happen to be outside of that 40 mile radius of military base. hmm wonder why they want the vets, retirees, and active duty all clustered around the military bases? easier targets maybe?

  • TiminKSA

    Since when did libtards give a crap about military veterans?

    • audieho

      Since the budget talks and fiscal cliff deadline is coming up again. Hard to make badly needed spending cuts when the media is parroting “our military veterans will suffer if we cut spending” which is complete horse sh*t.

      • Worship Dancer

        actually it’s not because PANETTA is absolutely DETERMINED to force retirees to pay their “fair share”. remember he mentioned that he felt retirees “stick with the tricare even though they are working and could get insurance at their job” uh no panetta not all of us work where benefits are offered. he thinks retirees should pay upwards of $400-500 per month for insurance.

    • TocksNedlog

      When they think they can exploit them as pawns in a propaganda campaign to push for Universal Health Care.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2ELCOQ6YAEH2NA34Q3ORCVIVLU Dan

        ding ding ding

        • Take Back Something or Other

          Yeah, remember when conservatives could get votes by endlessly bashing liberals about their “weakness” on defense and the military and not being a ruff tuff army man? Ah, beautiful faded memories…

          • http://www.facebook.com/cheryl.everette Cheryl Everette

            Now liberals will be bashed by their beloved government and their beautiful, faded memories will be all the broken promises that they would benefit after giving up their rights and allowing their national defense to be provided by a shell of a military that can no longer protect them.

          • http://www.facebook.com/cheryl.everette Cheryl Everette

            Now liberals will be bashed by their beloved government and their beautiful, faded memories will be all the broken promises that they would benefit after giving up their rights and allowing their national defense to be provided by a shell of a military that can no longer protect them.

    • Randy C. Lindsey

      True dat. Most libs secretly despise the military.

      • Cold War Grunt

        Secretly?

      • http://www.facebook.com/judine3 Judith Ne

        Not secretly. They’ve been overt about it since the 60’s./

      • David Whitson

        Yeah, Randy, if we invade and occupy enough countries and murder enough of their innocent men, women and children, they’ll stop hating the U.S., right ? Of course those trillion$ should be spent destroying infrastructure “over there” (wherever THAT is, this decade) rather than building, or maintaining, infrastructure here, or providing healthcare for our citizens. Funny how the Tutsi/Hutu genocide did not matter, but “human rights violations” in any nation with oil, uranium, poppies or coca result in violent interventions on the part of the American military forces in the name of our “national interests.”

      • David Whitson

        Yeah, Randy, if we invade and occupy enough countries and murder enough of their innocent men, women and children, they’ll stop hating the U.S., right ? Of course those trillion$ should be spent destroying infrastructure “over there” (wherever THAT is, this decade) rather than building, or maintaining, infrastructure here, or providing healthcare for our citizens. Funny how the Tutsi/Hutu genocide did not matter, but “human rights violations” in any nation with oil, uranium, poppies or coca result in violent interventions on the part of the American military forces in the name of our “national interests.”

    • Freedom From Obamadouche 474

      If they’ve gotten their minds right, like John Kerry (who served in Vietnam) did, they love them.

      • Dove

        Don’t mention John Kerry and Vietnam in the same sentence. He’s a male Jane Fonda.

  • Quentin Durrstein

    That you cam BUY insurance is not told to our troops when they get out and your service related injuries are out of pocket until your claim is approved. While the article might have missed the ability to purchase insurance through the VA, the part about months of waiting is correct with a lot turned down meaning years of waiting and a fight to get help. Right now 22 vets a day commit suicide waiting on their claim for help with PTSD. If we treated single mothers on welfare like we treat veterans, there would be rioting in the streets with Obama crying on a podium about how he was taking immediate executive action to fix it. Instead he want private insurance to pay for war injuries, made a five fold increase in TriCare premiums and has the VA wait taking longer and longer.

    • Tequila

      Not sure where you are getting your information from but as a minimum departing service members can get help at any VA clinic or hospital by walking in the door. A cursory check of military service is done, which leaves the system open to abuse and fraud, but they can get treatment while waiting a decision on any disability claim they may have pending. It is important to make a distinction between service members who leave the service at the end of their enlistment and those that do 20 plus years and take the retirement. There are 2 different sets of rules which apply as well as those with service connected injuries and disabilities.

      This story seems to be one which reinforced the authors preconceived notions of what he envisioned medical care for military is rather then what the facts really are. Don’t get me wrong, there are flaws with the system but there is just so much in this particular story that lacks the ring of authenticity.

      • Guest

        Yes there are real flaws in the system, but instead here we all are talking about a fake “flaw” in the system. That is a shame, but Obama is probably happy about that.

        I say we tie the level of healthcare benefits Congress gets to the level of healthcare benefits Vets get. THAT would see things improve in a hurry!

  • http://www.facebook.com/lfluhartywarner Linda Fluharty Warner

    Did not read the Esquire peice but anyone who has been in the millitary knows that you dont get healthcare or a pention unless you retire at 20 years!

    • tiorbinist

      Apparently you didn’t read more than just the Esquire piece.
      I had 6 years in. When I got out I had a check for 30 days of unused leave. I also had health care coverage at the base for that period.
      I did not have a service-related injury. If I had, I’d have had health care via VA. As Brandon Friedman says, this SEAL has 5 years of free, unfettered, instantaneously-available coverage. Mr. Friedman was a Public Affairs officer for the VA, and knows what he is talking about.
      There are many ways to get, healthcare if not a pension, without serving 20 years and retiring.

      There are so many ways that your statement is wrong (aside from misspelling pension.)

      • http://www.facebook.com/lfluhartywarner Linda Fluharty Warner

        yes I do have trouble with spelling thank you for pointing it out but if you want health care for life plus a retierment check every month you put in your twenty years as my father did as my husband (who was a Navy Seal ) did. The care you talk about is just for him I belive and not his family and I do wish him luck with the V.A. process. and I am sure I have misspelled lots of words for you to correct so my treat for you today!

  • Brian Walterich

    Why would someone who had done 16 years in the military get out 4 years short of a full time retirement? That doesn’t make sense.

    • Quentin Durrstein

      Many times it is due to injuries and etc. You are not always retired out based on them but you are forced out. I was pushed out due to injuries instead of retired out. The military is notorious for giving people a low rating to push them out that way since the benefits then come out of the VA budget instead of the military budget.

    • tiorbinist

      I’ve answered this question elsewhere, but I have to counter-ask, doesn’t make sense to whom? Obviously, it made sense to him. You have no idea what his thought processes were. Does he deserve to be denigrated because you don’t know what reasoning he had?

      I was only in for 6 years, and it makes perfect sense to me. I was not a SEAL. We had a contingent of them on my ship, and I got to know them. It makes perfect sense to me. You sleep safe every night because they do things you probably can’t imagine… and this SEAL did things that are being magnified (or denigrated) far more than SEALs usually experience, because you have no idea what they do. For a bunch of reasons. That alone, makes his leaving now make sense to me.

      For Scott3636, I gave a long list of very good reasons why anyone would not stay in the military for 20 years just to retire. I’ll add one here:

      Most people who spend 20 years for any reason other than “get my 20 and retire and live the life of Riley (whoever he is)” don’t stop there. They go on for 30. They regret leaving when they do: the Service is their life. Many of us see the Service as our duty, do it, and move on.

      If I had taken part in the Bin Laden raid, I think it would definitely be time to move on, myself. I bet you would, too.

      • James The 87,679,756th

        Brohinsky, you’re full of hot air.

      • Marbran

        Most civilians don’t realize how much a ‘family’ the military becomes for most who join. The day you walk out, however you leave, is always a sad day. I’ve been out for just over 10 years and I still miss it.

        • Worship Dancer

          it’s been almost 10 years for me and yea i too still miss it. but i stuck it out for the full 20 – well actually i got caught in stop loss so ended up with almost 25 by the time the released me.

    • Guest

      I couldn’t serve one day as a Navy SEAL, let alone sixteen years. It’s good to question the easily checked “facts” in that article, but I don’t know that anyone here is qualified to question or second-guess the internal motivations and decisions made by this particular warrior. He has made a decision and he must live with the consequences. As a former SEAL he would know how that works.

      • Worship Dancer

        that wasn’t the question. He COULD have transferred to his former MOS and NOT remained as a Navy Seal. that being said IF he was medically separated then he qualifies for benefits. if he just left because he no longer wanted to remain a Seal and didn’t want to go back to his former MOS he is eligible for no benefits. Just like as a civilian if you leave your job before you are fully vested in their retirement system you do NOT qualify for their retirement plan.

    • Anthony Jerk

      It doesn’t make sense if your only goal is to retire from the military. Many in the military leave short of their 20 year retirement and lose EVERYTHING. Worth noting, our elected officials can get benefits after just 5 years as I understand it

  • Tequila

    I want to mention the guys over at This Ain’t Hell, http://thisainthell.us/blog/ a blog which regularly exposes phony soldiers as well as being a voice for the veteran community. They have been running an entire series of articles dealing with this and between Jonn and Mark as well as the input from the vets who comment there their BS meter has been ringing loudly ever since this story appeared. I am dismayed that now so many of the mass market media, including Fox and CNN have run with this story. Yesterday’s edition of “The Five” was particularly egregious. Is it too much to ask some of these pundits to try and do a little bit of researching. I don’t know if it was Andrea Tantaros or Kimberly Guilfoyle who, if I am not mistaken, said a military retiree makes about $100K. Not even close honey. I am retired, enlisted and make about $17K. Granted I have been out for 10 yrs and pay has gone up but the retirement benefit has actually gone down. Eric Bolling showed a graphic that said the average military retiree gets $60K. I think he misheard. $16K is more like it. Officers make good bucks but I dare to venture to say there are far more retired enlisted then officers. Anyway wish the folks on “The Five” would consult with the guys over at This Ain’t Hell before opening their blowholes again.

    • spot_the_dog

      Whenever I see a military-related story in the MSM with a slant like this I check out TAH to see what they have to say about it.

    • WittyMermaid

      Apparently the guy left before fulfilling the mandatory 20 years that would have made him eligible for retirement. Granted, one can’t hardly complain when they know the rules ahead of time and choose to make that choice…

      • defigo

        You can still retire from the US Military after completing 15 year and still get 60% of your benifits.

        • Worship Dancer

          no you can’t. i worked personnel for over 24 years. no you can’t. there are specific reasons for that and generally it’s injury, RIF, something like that. but if you have 15 years and want to “retire” you better check with the retirements section of your personnel function to get the REAL scoop.

    • Worship Dancer

      yep right there too. i’m not even close to 100K. i WISH. i wouldn’t have to work if i did.

  • Mark Gotham

    The whole bin laden death story is fiction, but this vet deserves better for sure.

  • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/ dmacleo

    the whole thing is fishy. he claims author of no easy day took credit for kill which is false, author specifically said he was second shooter.
    something not right about all this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1617747933 John Martin

    Why would you collect benefits for only serving 16-17 years? And, I thought obamo killed OBL.

  • ctmom

    Why would the MSM run with this story? If anything it just amplifies what Obamacare will be like for the rest of us.

    • tiorbinist

      MSM…kinda like MGM? (In way too many ways!)
      To be honest, MSN hasn’t bothered with news in an awful long time. So pushing olds is right up their alley, especially if it supports their obvious-even-if-denied-agenda. And then…you gotta do something to keep Chris Matthew’s leg tingling!

      • ctmom

        MSM = MainStream Media

        • tiorbinist

          Ahh. ‘kay. MGM still = Metro Goldwyn Meyer, and is still better at doing what they do than MSM is at their constant attempts to do the same.

          • ctmom

            This is true.

    • TocksNedlog

      The left will gladly point out areas where individuals allegedly ‘slip through the cracks’ as a method of justifying the need (in their minds) for Universal Health Care.
      IOW, they aren’t saying “Look at this, ObamaCare sucks!” No, no, no; what they’re saying is “Look at this, ObamaCare didn’t go far enough!”

  • James Hansen

    Eric Boehlert would still say the Seal has no guts. Thanks Eric.

    • lainer51

      So-called men that fight a brave battle “with a keyboard sitting on their fat arse” are the REAL heroes… right Eric???

  • Scott3636

    Who leaves work 36 months before they can retire with full benefits?

    • Noonespecial

      I know…what is UP with that?

    • tiorbinist

      A valid question, and one that deserves thought.

      16 years as a SEAL is hard work. Very hard work with many very difficult jobs and decisions, lots of stress, physical, mental and emotional. Some never pause. Some do. When you find yourself pausing, it’s probably a good idea to get into some other kind of work, whatever the cause is.

      Males tend to believe they are invincible into their mid-20’s. They begin to realize that they aren’t in their mid-30’s (if not sooner.) That would be a considerable inducement to cause a SEAL to look for another endeavor.

      Regardless of the apparent public impression, life in the military is not all paperwork, boot-shining, and gun-cleaning. For the special forces, it’s a whole lot more than that.

      The minute the stress, on you or on your family, gets recognized, it’s time to get out. That’s all. No condemnation, no blame, no need to justify it.

      While retirement from the military brings with it benefits that last a lifetime, you also spend that lifetime fighting a government which is far happier forgetting what you did for them and feeling important about what they did for you. Some people don’t roll that way: more reason to get out before retirement.

      If you retire, you do not leave the service. Under certain circumstances, you can be called back to active duty: you retire (from the SEALS) into the ‘Inactive Navy Reserves.’ If you’re done with risking your life on a daily basis, better to get out before being permanently put into ‘Active at National Need’ status…especially since the US has been in a National Emergency status, continuously, since 2001.

      There are also other reasons. Your advancement is only partially based on your own ability and efforts: getting assigned to an officer or higher-ranking NCO who decides you aren’t going to advance is the end of your career: they can even influence whether you can reenlist. I’m not saying that happened here, but I have seen it happen, personally. Get assigned to someone who is jealous of what you did on your last (or any prior) assignment, and life can become unbearable… or boring. Either is justification not to waste another 4 years before getting your life’s reins into your own hands.

      One more thing to think about: in this administration, people tend to be dealt with as if they are merely ideological pawns. Whether ‘taking out Obama’ was the greatest or worst thing that ever happened, that celebrity can cause you to be taken from doing what you are good at to being no more than an icon. Even people who agree with the aims of the current administration may not want to be used as “Photo-op backdrop”. Or worse.

      All good reasons to cash out before retirement.

      Oh, one other: Regardless of how Esquire has painted this man, he may just be uninterested in spending the rest of his life living off of your income. Many are, and in this day-and-age of retirement funds going bottom-up overnight, many aren’t believing that a retirement-in-the-bag means a life of ease and enjoyment until expirement. I’ll wager our young SEAL has plans for his life that don’t include being an Active Duty SEAL.

      • lolajl

        Yes, that is what happened to my husband – got assigned to an officer who wasn’t exactly fond of him. Got out of military in due course.

      • Kenny’s Lawyer

        This discussion leads me to argue something I have maintained for many a year, and that is that the military should have different requirements for retirement based on MOS and experience. It’s silly an Air Force clerk that has spent his/her entire enlistment in the rear with the can retire after the same amount of time as an infantry soldier with three years in a combat zone. Combat arms should be able to retire at twenty or even less, depending on amount of time deployed in an active theater, where non-combat arms folks should have to do thirty. This would not only be fairer, but it would also help our budget situation. (Note, I did my four in intel nowhere near grueling physical work or imminent danger, and I find it absurd that I could have continued 16 more and gotten the same bennies as a retired grunt.)

      • joejohnson043

        its funny, people posting “who gets out with only 4 years left”, lmao; if the guy started at 20, he is now 36…. holy schnikey, are you kidding me?! Who wants to do that job till 40?!!? Not to mention, knowing that your Government has no qualms about packing your whole elite team onto a slow moving big fat flying schoolbus of a helicopter, and to fly you right into an RPG….

    • TocksNedlog

      Someone that has been marginalized in their position and/or is too injured to continue in his chosen role?

      • http://www.facebook.com/corey.dennison Corey Dennison

        Well, if he’s ‘too injured’ he would have been medically retired = medical coverage.

  • spot_the_dog

    “They Want To Believe” meets “Too Good To Check”.

  • George Murrey

    Since this has come to light, where is the pres and his joint chiefs of staff, why aren’t they on top of for this young man, and other veterans, what happened to the transitional period for them, why the silence? But when it comes to gun control, those same people sure have plenty to say. Lastly, I really doubt the pres will bring up the subject of our vets, except maybe that they pay their “fair” share in taxes. What a rues.

  • Noonespecial

    My Dad is a Korean combat veteran, and he has had free care at the VA his entire life. This whole thing is a huge lie. What is WRONG with so called Journalists today, seriously? Do they bother to even check out their stories any more? Guess that’s a stupid question – the answer is in front of us each and every day. Nothing but propaganda arms and tools of the State. The media is all but dead, but the propaganda arm of the glorious Obama Experiment is alive and thriving. Any news outlet that isn’t a part of that is vilified and called insane right wing propaganda. Genius, this administration and the Democratic Party….evil genius. We will never be the same country we once were without a free and unbiased press, and it saddens me.

    • Shears

      ” Do they bother to even check out their stories any more?”
      This is the first thing I was asking when I read this. These so-called “professional journalists” didn’t think to go to VA.GOV and check all this out themselves?
      I’m a vet using VA medical services, primarily for prescriptions, but it’s pretty easy to find out the level of coverage for vets by just going to an obvious webpage.
      But then that would destroy their narrative, so why would they bother?

      • 1CatEye

        They are also so arrogant/stupid as to think none of the rest of us can look this stuff up either. When we do, and call them on their lies, they sneer and tell us we’re not “real journalists”.
        Neither are they. They are propagandists, period.

  • Quentin Durrstein

    Just to help, here is the link to the benefits page Brandon Friedman gives to refute the claim. Now the challenge is, find WHERE you can get health insurance from the VA on that page.

    http://benefits.va.gov/benefits/

    Correction, not the DIRECT link he gave but how you would normally look to find things on the VA site. I actually am in IT and have managed things like medical servers and helped with websites for the military. They INTENTIONALLY have this stuff buried deep so you will not find it and will never know about it but in cases like this they can suddenly pull it up and claim it is not their fault.

    Try finding the benefits yourself and see. We do a better job of making sure illegals know how to get welfare from us before the cross from Mexico than we do in making sure out veterans know what is available and how to get help.

    • Geoff

      “Try finding the benefits yourself”

      Ummm…click “I’m a Veteran” and go to “Benefits Handbook” and it takes you straight to it. Took about 30 seconds. How much easier do you want it?

  • Jerry R. Mize

    OK…service aside. He might be a SEAL but in the eyes of the military he is the same as the grunt who sweated out 6 months in the desert of no showers and door kicking. You want benefits? Spend the 20 years like everyone else. It was said he was just too beat up and over used… OK fine, when you separate you must undergo a physical before you leave to determine if you are entitled to care from injuries while in. If he was medically unable to continue it is called a medical retirement = medical benefits and pay. If he didn’t receive it then he would assumably be able to continue duty until his 20. The military isn’t perfect but it does attempt to take care of those that deserve it.

    • Otis Driftwood

      The problem is as a SEAL he has not be back to regular assigned duties in the fleet within his enlisted rating. His last 4 years could maybe be spent in a SW support role, but as everyone knows when you are with special forces you are either on the front line or separate. Granted he has medical issues that could be covered by the VA however it is not cut and dry. Neither is a Medical Board review for retirement with benefits. Those reviews take time and it could be months / years before a member can receive services. I just assisted a retiree who left the service with 19 yrs due to major hearing loss. It was caused by OTJ work. However the military service pushed him out the door towards the VA. Medical Board only gave him 10%. As of last month he has finally received 100% disability from the VA after numerous surgeries and total loss of hearing. He separated in 2002.

      • Geoff

        Balls. You can’t separate with untreated medical conditions. “I just assisted a retiree”…key in that statement being “retiree”. A Medical Board and determination is conducted prior to separation, the service member isn’t just cut loose to flounder on his own. If the guy you were assisting was medically retired he was getting treatment through the VA…note your statement of “after numerous surgeries”. The VA also cannot make a final determination of disability until after final treatment…which in this case took years.

        “as everyone knows when you are with special forces you are either on the front line or separate”

        Balls again. This former SoF guy knows nothing of the sort. Options are to (1) Get out, (2) Terminate SoF status and revert to your regular MOS and run out the clock, (3) go into a support role. “The Shooter” made the decision to get out…and his plans fell apart when his buds went their separate ways. Now he’s whining about it.

        • Quentin Durrstein

          Geoff, if he was separated for medical instead of retired, the AVERAGE wait right now to get a claim processed is 240 days. During that time you get exactly ZERO from them in help and treatment. Been there, done that and that is only if they approve things on the first attempt. I spent over 10 months with my congressman getting involved to get a decision for medical issues. No medications for MONTHS waiting. I was unable to work and barely able to get out of bed since no pain meds for my injuries.

          Now they can get you coverage for the 5 years but that information in buried and not told to most when they get out. Go to the VA website and time yourself how long it takes to find the information and get back to me.

          • Geoff

            Been involved with the military medical system for something like 35 years as an SoF team medic, hospital rotations, patient, VA Rep at a college, and I’ve never heard of a service member being separated with untreated injuries. Likewise, I’ve never heard of a VA medical center refusing to treat a Vet. Non-retirees/Service connected are at a lower priority and are seen on a “space available” basis.

            “time yourself how long it takes to find the information”

            Ummm…click “I’m a Veteran” and go to “Benefits Handbook” and it takes you straight to it. Took about 30 seconds.

          • amyshulk

            Back injury, right? It’s like the VA decided that even though the Navy surgeon and all the MRI/Cat-SCAN/Bone Scan tests that told them what {if not how} my back was injured that it was all a lie.

            I was treated like a drug seeker and almost pitched to psych before we moved here to LV, and they sent me to the pain clinic after telling me my pain was phantom.

            Once I got into the pain clinic? Still bumpy, but mostly due to the Dr.s I had – it wasn’t until I got a Dr. who had Shingles and understood how debilitating chronic pain truly is that i was treated as a real patient.

            I think it took 2 years in Fla., then another 3 – 5 here in LV to get to that point.

            And forget about the rating/percentage. 10% when I was discharged, which I contested numerous times, and was bumped to 20% and then 30% After that, they just started losing my paperwork, ignoring my requests.

            Right now, I have a GREAT Dr., but I dread the day I have to switch, and go through it all again!!!

          • amyshulk

            Back injury, right? It’s like the VA decided that even though the Navy surgeon and all the MRI/Cat-SCAN/Bone Scan tests that told them what {if not how} my back was injured that it was all a lie.

            I was treated like a drug seeker and almost pitched to psych before we moved here to LV, and they sent me to the pain clinic after telling me my pain was phantom.

            Once I got into the pain clinic? Still bumpy, but mostly due to the Dr.s I had – it wasn’t until I got a Dr. who had Shingles and understood how debilitating chronic pain truly is that i was treated as a real patient.

            I think it took 2 years in Fla., then another 3 – 5 here in LV to get to that point.

            And forget about the rating/percentage. 10% when I was discharged, which I contested numerous times, and was bumped to 20% and then 30% After that, they just started losing my paperwork, ignoring my requests.

            Right now, I have a GREAT Dr., but I dread the day I have to switch, and go through it all again!!!

          • Worship Dancer

            that’s why he needs to sit down with the Vet Affairs person – i will GUARANTEE if he goes to the unemployment office there is one there or at least there’s one available within the state government. he needs to find out who the VARO is where he lives. they are invaluable in helping because most of them are vets, retirees, disabled vets.

        • Marbran

          Very true. I didn’t retire, just separated after 10 years and they gave me a THOROUGH physical on my way out the door. Anything that ain’t the way it was when you walked in, except for normal aging-related things, is usually covered or can be appealed to the Board.

    • Quentin Durrstein

      Jerry, the military is infamous for intentionally under rating injuries so you are pushed out instead of retired out. That means you are under the VA budget instead of the military one is why. You then are stuck waiting a year for benefits, if not longer, and you plan on a fight to get them. I have been there, done that, have the million letters of lost paperwork requests to delay things more and etc. If we treated single mothers addicted to crack on welfare like this, there would be riots in the street and Obama making executive orders so fast the pen would catch fire.

    • nathanmartin25

      Yes. AND if he at least did 18, he would also get full benefits if he met the criteria. I agree that those who do the Hard Time…should have better years compensation for retirement, than someone who sits in an office at headquarters for 20 years.

      • Worship Dancer

        from all i’ve read he left with less than 17.

  • Tim jones

    This lack of healthcare / on-your-own crap is a lie, veterans get free healthcare while they earn an income of less than 36k a year.

  • Lady_Penguin

    Something wrong with this picture. Wonder who paid this guy to tell the sob story. First of all, veterans can get free care from the VA, and they do. As far as lack of job, hmmm…better look to the Marxist in the White House and all his commie helpers in the media, they’re the ones to blame for the American economy going south.

  • Randy C. Lindsey

    Never let the facts get in the way of your agenda.

  • Tommy

    Liberalism is just the PC term for propagandists. So they have to lie to remain relevant.

  • monkkey

    What is all the hub bub about a military person leaving and their health insurance stops…that’s standard I believe and they may have the COBRA option like anyone in civilian employment…should this guy have more consideration because he pulled the plug on OBL??? I’da been happy to do it for free, if they’d just called me…As for combat related injuries, there is a process of evaluation which does take an inordinate amount of time to complete….I’m not certain why he hasn’t chosen to stay in Service for another 4 years and retirement, but that may have been an option to maintain his military health coverage for he and his family…God bless this man and his family, but he is dealing with the system just like everyone else who never had the pleasure of offing the Al-Queda mennis, OBL…What’s a pie face to do!!!

  • http://alert-up-usa.com/ AlertUpUSA

    Agree with comment: we should treat Vets as well as mothers receiving free abortions from Fed. Funded Planned Parenthood. VA benefits needs MASSIVE EMERGENCY OVERHAUL – DRIVEN BY PRESIDENTIAL ORDERS, bypassing Congress – to ensure our military receives the best quality health care AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE – as they sacrificed themselves to “protect” us and get the bad guys threatening our National security interests – in Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait.

    Too much “hocus-POTUS” and “follow the bean under the shell”.

    Integrity, honesty, commitment, action is needing REINSTALLATION!

  • BeeKaaay

    How DARE this SEAL say he killed OBL? Everyone knows that “The One” did that all by himself! The SEAL did not do this!

    /sarc

  • Hiraghm

    Who gives a crap if he’s uninsured or not? Lots and lots of people are uninsured. Rush Limbaugh doesn’t use health insurance because cash is cheaper.
    We’ve allowed the socialists to promote the idea that you’re going to diiiiiie if you don’t have health *insurance*.

  • CherDash

    Is this the same Phil Bronstein who was married to Sharon Stone?

  • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ Penny Robinson Fan Club

    Wow, all of a sudden the Collaborationist Media thinks American soldiers are brass-bound heroes and not blood-lusting baby-killers spreading American imperialism around the globe on unwilling indigenous peoples.

    • http://www.facebook.com/corey.dennison Corey Dennison

      Well, that’s because the pResident has a (D) by his name.

      Changes everything dont’cha know?

  • http://twitter.com/RetiredNavChief SupermanRetiredChief

    If the MSM media “cares” so much about us vets, then do a story about how every year till 2016 my retirement tricare will go up and up until we are forced to take the Obamacare.
    “Administration officials told Congress that one goal of the increased
    fees is to force military retirees to reduce their involvement in
    Tricare and eventually opt out of the program in favor of alternatives
    established by the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, aka
    Obamacare.”
    The plan calls for increases between 30 percent to 78 percent in
    Tricare annual premiums for the first year. After that, the plan will
    impose five-year increases ranging from 94 percent to 345 percent—more
    than 3 times current levels.
    According to congressional assessments, a retired Army colonel with a family currently paying $460 a year for health care will pay $2,048.The new plan hits active
    duty personnel by increasing co-payments for pharmaceuticals and
    eliminating incentives for using generic drugs.
    I can use the VA, and they would take care of me, but I also have to drive 2 hours for an appointment and I am the lucky one. What about the guys who do not live near a VA?

    Tricare lets me little girl get the help she needs for her epilepsy, I doubt the free crap Obama gives out will let her get the meds she needs to have a normal life.

    I am so damn sick of the games they play with what I and many other busted our asses for over 20 years. Only about one percent (1 %) of the actual
    population of our great nation volunteer and serve in the military. And
    only a SMALL percentage of those who do enlist actually make a career
    of the Military. SO I ask this, WHY DON”T YOU JUST LEAVE THINGS ALONE!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marcy-Cook/1001619613 Marcy Cook

    I think the guy’s point was that the 5 year coverage did not include his family.

    • Guest

      If that was his point, that’s the point he should have made. Not all this “The man who killed bin Laden… is screwed!” bull poop. The title should have been “The FAMILY OF THE man who killed bin Laden… is screwed”, but then again last time *I* quit a job *my* former employer wasn’t legally obligated to support *my* entire family for life, either.

  • redheadgrl

    I read this article and was more amazed by the details on the mission, how the guys completed it, even when they knew one of the helicopters had crashed. How they trained for it over and over with fill scale mock ups. That they knew there was a high chance they wouldn’t get out alive. That they are all brave and I am proud of them and what they do for the US.

  • http://ITSPEOPLE.com/ Tantalus XVI

    Hopefully the Obama admin will issue a correction on all of this and the media will suddenly forget all of this ever happened. (As usual) And when someone points out that they got their facts wrong (once again) they will be ignored, the media will play dumb, or in the worst case they will be called a racist homophobe. (Because, you’re a racist)

  • Sorrel Jakins

    Does anyone remember the original BS’er Dan Rather’s comment about “even if the documents are false, the underlying story is true” and the New York Times’ comment “Fake but accurate”?

  • daphnetaggart

    What’s interesting is a lot of news outlets also ran this story without fact checking it.

  • John Free

    In ‘Michelle-Speak’- I have to say…”SQUIRREL”. WHY ? Because: 1) I don’t believe Bin-Laden was killed ! 2) If he WAS killed, this soldier has been de-briefed, and should NOT be allowed to speak about ANY details which could refer to ‘the Mission’ as it may reveal National Security secrets. 3) If he WERE allowed to speak freely, or even about ‘approved’ info, wouldn’t this become an IDEAL springboard to show how ‘owebamacare’ fills in the cracks in a ‘flawed’ system? (No doubt ‘Flawed’ by a prior Republican administration)- I’ll wait to see how this plays out-should be interesting. Let me play a scenario- owebama speaks to Bin-Laden-‘OK, look-right now you’re a fugitive, $10mil bounty on your head. You’re 6’8″ tall and on dialysis- you stick out like a sore thumb in the desert. How about if I ‘Kill You On Paper’? Bounty Hunters leave you alone, you can continue to run Al-Queda, keep your wealth, And I get to jack my popularity byTHIREEN Points- what say?’ Does it bother anyone that this ‘killing’ came from left field at EXACTLY the right time-and in DIRECT CONFLICT with his stated policies? Hmmmmm

  • bhdawg

    Why isnt there something for these guys like our politicians get when they only go 4 yrs, lifetime retirement and health coverage like no other american has. Why do they get this and our servicemen get nothing, Ask this americans and see what kind of answer u get.

  • imainfidel

    I thought that he shot a old skinny man that looked like obama all the reports ive read had obama dead long ago of kidney failure more Gov propaganda to keep a hoax story alive

  • kthomp1123

    I know that mentor – this story is crap.

  • snapperman

    Well, if the Secretary of Defense wasn’t jetting – on a big military aircraft – back and forth from DC to Carmel every week and if the Obamas stayed in DC rather than trek around the globe there’d be a lot more funding available for veterans.

  • M$Sucks

    The MSM pretty much says anything they want, people pretty much believe everything they hear. What a combination.

  • Michael

    Funny, yesterday all you crazy right-wingers could do was love this story as an example of “how much Obama loathes the military” as one poster said.

  • $29561723

    According to WaPo, the Navy Seal was being heckled by 2nd Amendment supporters at his outprocessing, which is why he didn’t hear the VA benefits information.

  • http://www.theretiredbabyboomer.net/ Dave

    Do these liberal ass “journalists” ever get tired of making complete asses out of themselves? It reminds me of what a reporter asked Joe Namath after a game. “Did you take basket weaving courses at Alabama, Joe?” Naaaa, I took journalism. It was easier. “

  • doc

    Have to raise the BS flag on this report. It is DOD policy that all servicemember are placed in the Transitional Assistance Program (TAP) prior to separation. Only if the member signs a letter stating they do not wish to attend is the course not given. The servicemembers are taught the skills to write resume’s, how to get and rate private insurance and othere skills needed to move to civilian life. Finally, for this ass to say they owe him after 16 years is a farce. He knew fully well the requirement of 20 years to recieve a pension and medical care for his family. Sounds more like he was discharged for reason and now he’s whining to the liberal media for an attaboy. Puss.

  • Bemani Dog

    You’d think the MSM would want to correct this, since the story essentially is bad news for Obama.

  • uk1616

    I glossed over the whole no insurance part and was interested in the operational details. That being said, my BS meter went off when “the Shooter” talked about BO carpet bombing the Paks to get our guys out. “Right then and there I knew I was voting for this guy.” According to Matt Bissonette most of the DevGru operators openly bashed BO. Not to mention that line was just ridiculous.

  • otaycec

    It’s too bad that a military hero can’t get insurance benefits, but hey, at least gays in the military and their significant others can get the benefits denied the shooter. Thwee-eet.

    • Michael

      Ah ahahaha, it’s funny because you obviously didn’t read the article and just came to show your anger for Obama and the “MSM.” The article clearly states that the original story was wrong. “the former SEAL is eligible for at least five years of free health care through the Department of Veterans Affairs —”

    • Curt Pangracs

      Actually, you are wrong. Starting 1 October, same-sex partners will be able to receive Commissary/PX privileges, childcare and youth services, and some other ACS benefits. They DO NOT receive housing, medical, or dental care. Kind of sucks to be an idiot, doesn’t it?

  • $4118225

    Esquire publish something less than honest and without going to the one-phone-call effort of fact checking? They have been doing that in support of Obama for years. Nothing new here, just move along. American media takes to disinformation like ducks to water.

  • caligula

    makes sense that a right-wing rag like esquire would run with a story besmirching obammy’s admin. oh…they’re a lefty rag? now im completely baffled. lol /s

    another made up story by the MSM. i’ll bet the author never even met the shooter. just another attempt to get everyone on board with obamacare. nothing to see here.

  • joejohnson043

    he’s just lucky he wasn’t in the Seal group that got assassinated by Dear Leader; by packing them into a flying school bus, and flying them into combat.

  • WTFrontyardAmerica

    Obama does want to cut military health benefits, that way they can continue to pay off the underclass for their votes.

  • Tom Devine

    First, a couple common sense questions. Is this guy really an ex-Team 6 operator? Is he really the one who tapped OBL? Is he really that ill informed about his benefits?

    His situation can be fixed. Not so sure the ‘hook, line and sinker’ problem with the MSM can be righted. Journalism is dead.

  • Keith NSA is watching

    I thought Obama killed Osama and then went through his pockets for launch money.

  • http://www.americansforglobalwarming.com/ americans for global warming

    I am a huge fan of Ezra Klein. He has singlehandedly spewed more hot air than all the coal plants on the eastern seaboard! Every piece of garbage he writes brings me one step closer to my goal of a warmer world.

  • John

    I think the whole original article was fiction.

    • Guest

      Maybe he was a “composite” SEAL, like Obama’s “composite” girlfriend.

  • EWRoss

    There is something about this story that doesn’t sound right. Why did he leave service before he had 20 years? Was if for disability? What percentage of disability did he get if so? If he got more than a 30 percent disability he should be elidgeable for benefits. EWRoss.com

  • auh2064

    I knew it was a hoax the minute I heard it. Everyone knows that OBAMA killed Bin Laden.

  • Mister Natural

    if he’s been seeing the chiro 3x week for more than 2 months he’s either not a good candidate for chiro care or he should find a new chiropractor.

  • Freedom From Obamadouche 474

    It is a huge detriment for America and the military for us to treat individual military actions and soldiers with individual celebrity or notoriety. So the Obama reigime is likely behind this.

  • Freedom From Obamadouche 474

    What is really surprising is the left hasn’t jumped on the fact that Christopher Dorner is now homeless, uninsured, and on his own because of this terrible country and its history and smelly Constitution.

  • Goo Gwaba

    Could it be this was fabricated too, like the “video” being the cause of the rape and murder of our ambassador in Benghazi?

    These people are absolute apparaticks for the regime.

  • 1tymtrvlr

    Is this guy trying to steal obama’s identity and accolades. All the obama voters I know said they voted for him because he beotch slapped usama, then gave him the double tap with his AR, and that a gun toting obama was hot even for being so cool, and that was just the male voters, who had a tendancy to faint whenever obama gave a speech. Clawing their way to the front of the crowd to be close to der leader obama, then fainting at his feet, wow, how, how, how cool is that?

  • Bob Smooper

    Speaking as a veteran of the Revolutionary War of 1775, I want all you Twitchy readers to know you are all chickenhawks who don’t serve Uncle Sam!

  • Rn

    Did twitchy’s author even read the article? The Esquire article did mention this fact, and it explained, in detail, what the Shooter did and did not receive. Yes, the article is long, but come on, man.

  • Geoff

    “SEAL really ignorant of his VA health benefits”

    You get a mandatory briefing, delivered by rote…we’re supposed to believe the briefer just omitted the most important part? It’s also in the packets you receive, in great detail. SEAL community, as mentioned in the article is very supportive of each other, a huge network for separation info, jobs…yet we’re supposed to believe none of them knew this? None of them walked a brother through the process? Allow me to throw the BS flag. I’m not “The Shooter”, and it only took me 6 weeks to out-process, get walked through my VA paperwork, get a physical, awarded Chapter 31 benefits, and be planted in a seat at college.

    This guy is in such poor health, yet was part of SEAL Team 6? Didn’t see any mention of a Medical Board in the article…which would have been a medical retirement, with full benefits.

    “The Shooter” can easily get a job, today, with a phone call, making anywhere from $250-500k downrange using the skills Uncle Sugar taught him…with a “Cadillac” medical plan for both him and his family. He doesn’t choose too, well no one promised him a corner office with a view just cuz he’s a FAG (Former Action Guy) Killer Hero. And the market is saturated with former SoF people with stuff they can’t put on their resume.

    Contract you make with Uncle is 20 years and you get retirement. This guy gets out for his own reasons @16 years, and thinks he’s a special snowflake? Then whines about it?

    You walk in a recruiter’s office, tell them you want to be a sniper…then 16 years later you’re moaning about not having any civilian job skills? Well duh. 16 years, and it never occured to him that someday the party was going to end, his body was going to be wore out, and he needed to learn how to do something useful?

    Article talks about all the “executive skills” “The Shooter” has…yet we’re led to believe this guy separated from the service without planning ahead, was too cool to listen to the mandatory separation briefings, read his packets, prep his medical records? Hasn’t bothered talking to the VA rep, or join one of the numerous support organizations (VFW, DAV, AMVETS, ect) that will happily bend over backwards explaining the process, assisting with the paperwork, and walking you (and your paperwork) through it all? None of these Generals mentioned have any pull, can’t make any phone calls, don’t know the system?

    Bottomline, dunno if “The Shooter” was playing the author of the article, or the author playing us, or both…but this is just arrant BS.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/House-Jay/100001044094726 House Jay

    Isn’t Obama Sin Laden still alive? We’ve yet to see the pictures…

  • http://www.facebook.com/duncan.t.black Duncan Taylor Black

    As a vet, can assure you he was told nothing, and by the time he fills out all the paperwork, dots the i’s, crosses the t’s and debates the bureaucrats over his needs, his five years of eligibility will be up! If he does get limited coverage, some partially-educated foreign medical graduate hired by the va (available only because he couldn’t pass the licensing requirements in most states) will run him through a clinical mill in a sub-standard medical environment until he finds he must find a private practitioner for competent treatment. Folks, you just don’t know how it is until you have been to a va clinic.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JX2HH5H4OODEZMBKFHURMW7JZQ D

      SUre, Duncan. Also, as a Vet, I can assure you that if you were in the military for 16 years (most of which as a NCO), and you had decided to separate, you damn sure would have known what the benefits were. It is highly unlikely that “Shooter” had no clue as to his having 5 years of no-cost medical coverage for him and his family. Further, there is no debating with bureaucrats over anything – the medical coverage exists. So, either YOU were not listening when you had your outprocessing or you have limited comprehension skills. As for “Shooter” I cannot pretend to understand his assertions or lack of understanding.

    • VerminMcCann

      The VA is a fucking mess, but it’s not that hard to get your benefits started. Anyone having trouble should get in touch with an returning veterans’ case worker.

    • oregonproud

      Duncan, you are spot on. Took me 21/2 years and then only with the help of the DAV. After 10 years of VA med care, I finally just received my first MD as a primary care provider. She is a moslem from Kenya and can barely speak English. I still haven’t seen a diploma on her office wall. ??? Gotta say, It must be the thanks of a grateful nation: the war is over, dogs and soldiers keep off the grass.

      TB- 26years active duty. Two wars and a lota world.

    • Twason Wiser

      Sorry, but you just don’t know the procedures that are required for a licensed physician. All physicians are licensed in the same manner, regardless of the state, here in the USA. Whether they are hired by the VA or whatever you consider the best medical facility in the US, all have to meet the same licensing requirements. And all foreign-trained medical graduates have to meet those exact same requirements, residencies, etc — along with additional stringent medical testing via USMLE exams and boards that in-country trained physicians do not.

  • Freedom1967

    But he can get his free phone and obamacare…said no one ever

  • Testicules

    “The Truth is ‘off message’ “…

    -The Liberal Media

  • alternet09

    The Esquire should have known that if any article does not paint a halo on Obama’s head, the teeth will come out.

  • WittyMermaid

    I am a physician with the Veterans Administration. I am also a very far right conservative, both socially and fiscally. I read the article and was moved by it. While the SF guy is eligible for VA benefits–of course he is–his FAMILY is not. I think when one says, “What are we going to do for health care?” one is not always speaking only of oneself, when one has a family. He will have to purchase health care from the private market for his family.

    I think it’s a little bit shameful and a disrespect to conservatism that occasionally, conservatives have to rush out and make anti-claims against stories written by liberal “journalists.” Can’t you just let the man’s story stand? I suspect some of the people tweeting pro-VA benefits didn’t actually read the article, because nobody has responded with a solution for what the man’s FAMILY is supposed to do for their care…

    • Geoff

      We’re not responsible for the man’s family…HE is. HE made the decision to get out prior to retirement. HE made the decision not to use his current skillset in the civilian job market. HE failed to plan his exit strategy.

      I think it’s more than a little bit shameful and disrespectful that we’re subjected to a slanted article full of inaccuracies and out and out lies so “The Shooter” can moan because he’s not getting a free lunch.

    • Pharnham

      Every BS liberal begins with, “I’m a far-right Conservative”. And invariably, they are some newly-minted, two-post buffoon with no history.

      Pointing out the objective, empirical flaws in the story is non-partisan. Mature adults don’t let outright fabrications employed as political propaganda stand. Since flawed, misleading deception is the hallmark of the liberal we don’t much give any benefit of the doubt to liberal “journalists”.

      The man is responsible for his family, nobody else is. Any actual Conservative would proceed instinctively from that obvious fact. He only had three years left to go, he could have finagled a training billet or admin job. I’m sure half the Navy was trying to convince him to do just that, rather than leave early.

      He let his family down, and choked at the finish line. Too bad, so sad. Just goes to show that being a special operator doesn’t make you a wise person.

      • WittyMermaid

        Woow woow wait. I never said I agreed with his decisions or that they were mature. Not did I say that I believe that “we” should be responsible for his family. I just pointed out that the article doesn’t say what the masses are rejecting, that being basically “Oh there’s benefits and he should shut up.” Everybody is pointing out his veterans benefits, but the article discusses the concern for his family. I AM factual. I DID read the entire 7 page article. And that’s why it’s fair for me to make the criticism if the criticisms.
        Personally, I think he was quite unwise to jump ship after such an investment of training and time. I also think it’s unwise to walk around speaking to reporters with a potty mouth when you know you’re being quoted and specifically represent special ops. Apparently “with honor” means something different to me…
        I also think, however, that its fair assess all aspects, including the response of my fellows. And sometimes, I think y’all just spit fire simply for the sake of it. I can also, with the best but I pick my battles. Eating a special ops guy for dinner is unseemly. About 1000 babies are killed today. People have no jobs. And two homosexuals got married in some state. We have bigger problems….

  • Karmi

    “fair and accurate” sounds like something outa Dan Rather’s School of Journalism.

  • docmacs

    This “shooter’ is probably a made up person anyway, so this story is probably made up. Does anyone really even believe the OBL story anyway?

  • $7610427

    Abandoning those who helped us kill bin Laden? Well, while we’re on the subject…Shakil Alfridi.

  • James The 87,679,756th

    This whole story stinks of manure… it’s all wrong.

  • cmdr-buzz-corey

    This guy kills bin Laden, Obama takes the credit and glory, and the SEAL gets nothing. Yep, that is the Obama way.

  • VerminMcCann

    The article does cast light on one unpopular issue–the fact that 20 years in an office gets you better benefits than 16 years of combat.

    • docmacs

      How about 4 years in office (Congress) gets you better benefits then all of them?

  • [email protected]

    The Sailor left active service before the required 20 year mark. All service members know that to get the retirement you have to complete a minimum of 20 years! What is the issue?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Smith/100001879911953 Joe Smith

    i don’t know what is true or not with regard to this story, but i do know that our use of a mercenary military, all of whom collect lifetime health and pensions after only 20 years, is bankrupting the nation. we need to get back to a very small professional force and then a draft when we need to go to war. it will save us money and keep us out of wars in which we do not belong. but our current makeup encourages intervention to keep the money flowing.

    • Pharnham

      What a loon. Entitlement spending is bankrupting the nation. Military is 19% of the budget with insignificant unfunded liability. Entitlements are +60% of the budget, with 129 trillion in unfunded liability (there’s ~200 trillion in total planetary wealth).

      Don’t comment about things of which you have zero knowledge. You should have learned that principle as a child.

  • Andrew Lovsness

    If you have ever dealt with the government, you know that the SEAL not knowing all the benefits he was eligible for is COMPLETELY believable.

    • Pharnham

      What branch, unit, and rating were you? One thing every military man knows, based on my ten years experience, is what his freebies are.

      • LibsRignorant

        I doubt he served. Just another liberal spouting his mouth about something he knows nothing about.

  • PoBiddy

    but, but… ObamaCare!

  • http://www.facebook.com/duvalljp John Duvall

    If this guy was hurting due to injuries, he had a way out with benefits that every service member knows about. I was medically retired in 2012 after 15 years as an officer in the Marine Corps. It is a long process but very doable especially if one has multiple injuries effecting the way they can do their job. It is very simple. My command realized what was going on and supported the process by writing a “Non-medical Assessment” describing how my injuries/illness (none them combat related by the way) affected my ability to do my job. I had multiple injuries (a broken back among them) and acquired a chronic autoimmune arthritic disease (Ankylosing Spondylitis) and could no longer do the job. The military doctors agreed based on objective medical evidence, and I was placed in the Disability Evaluation System (DES) and my case was adjudicated by a Physical Evaluation Board (PEB) to determine whether my injuries and illness were “service connected”. After 14 months of review (I remained on active duty and received all of my pay and allowances while I waited), it was determined those injuries/illness were service connected, and I was retired with a 60% (of the average of my salary for the last three years – called a high-3) pension and all of the benefits associated with a 20+ year retirement. This process is COMPLETELY separate from VA benefits (I receive both a medical retirement pension from my active duty service and VA disability benefits – the formula is a bit complicated as I do not receive both in total, but the VA benefits reduce my income tax burden on my active duty medical pension). If this guy had so many problems, then he should have gone to the docs and said, “I can no longer do my job because of them.” They would have put him through the ringer of medical tests like they did with me to determine whether or not his job was affected. I do not understand why this did not happen. SecOps operators are some of the most medically looked after troops in the entire military. If this guy needs help filing a retroactive claim for medical retirement, I can help him do so. I understand the system and can walk him through it. I would be more than happy to help.

    • RogerDane

      Ankylosing Spondylitis. Know it well, sorry to hear and good luck. I would ask you ‘if’ you believe that, given the long history of SEAL teams and the management of such, he had not given that route a lot of thought? It doesn’t sound like he’s unfamiliar with the military regs and, while you have a sound and (IMHO) valid point from experience, I think that the article may have passed over his efforts to attain a “medical discharge.” Just wondering out loud… take care of your back!

      • http://www.facebook.com/duvalljp John Duvall

        It makes me wonder why he did not either 1) know about it or 2) pursue it. The first I find hard to believe, the second is possible. Maybe he did not want to be perceived by his fellow operators as a “sick-bay commando”. Maybe the docs or his command said “you cannot be an operator, but we will give you a desk job to ride out until your 20-year mark” and he refused. This seems like the more likely option. Another option is he was highly discontent with the job (or the service) and just wanted out. I have seen that happen. The article just gives the wrong impression in my opinion. Something is not right here, and we are not being told what it is.

        • RogerDane

          “…Something is not right here, and we are not being told what it is.” The ‘standard’ for lots of media reporting!

          • http://www.facebook.com/duvalljp John Duvall

            That’s for sure….

      • http://www.facebook.com/duvalljp John Duvall

        BTW…AS sucks. I had surgery to fix my back and it worked. But I’ve had a helluva time trying to get my AS under control. I have never felt pain like that (or nausea or fatigue, or any of the other multitude of problems it causes). My problem was that it was misdiagnosed for so long (8 years) and I, like the dumb jar head I am, put up with the pain for so long rather than trying to get help when it originally began. I just ate Motrin like candy and destroyed my GI track. Now I can’t take it or anything like it. Enbrel, daily steroids, and morphine are all I got to try and keep it under control. What a life…

        • RogerDane

          Enbrel for the iritis? It is nasty… I am surprised surgery had a positive effect but that is great… No dumb jarheads, just inexperienced with the kind of whole body ‘bad’ effect the ‘cementing’ of bones brings! See Facebook email. Out.

          • http://www.facebook.com/duvalljp John Duvall

            Never got an email via FB, BTW….

          • RogerDane

            Try the ‘other’ folder not the inbox…

  • RogerDane

    It is beyond reprehensible that this Nation continues in the vein of
    “returning Vietnam Vets” with men who have put their lives on the line
    for our protection (and the protection of each other!!) while
    politicians and the unemployed bloodsuckers get the ‘gravy!’ No matter
    why this man (and others) may leave ‘early’, the sacrifices made are
    sufficient to warrant great reward and not the “p**sing down the neck
    and calling it rain” attitude of the bureaucracy! Fire fifty thousand
    ‘sit on their hands’ government employees and split their pay among the
    retiring warriors!

  • stopthe

    Have any of you been inside a VA hospital?

    They’re a joke. An absolute joke. The level of service is terrifyingly low. It’s nearly third world. That’s what happens when you attempt to price-fix services by underpaying.

    If that’s what you call “medical care,” we’re in a heap of trouble. Relegating someone to the VA for medical care is throwing them to the dogs.

    Are VA hospitals going to be the model for the way we all get treated under Obamacare or whatever other single-payer, price-fixing, shortage-inducing medical utopia they dream up next?

    Rich people and the criminal lying politicians will, of course, always be able to buy better services than the crumbs they throw to the rest of us.

    If someone’s only choice for treatment is a VA hospital then it is fair to say that, by civilized standards, they have no health care. This is in fact how we treat our veterans.

    • Pharnham

      This might be interesting, if the news agency was claiming the VA has great service. But they didn’t, they claimed that the man had no insurance. The man claimed that the military told him to screw off, when in fact he’d left before fully vesting, and had five years of medical coverage.

      Rich people and politicians will always afford better than most of us. The sun sets in the West. The sky is blue. Complaining about any of these is equally pointless.

    • wfwilson6

      “”Are VA hospitals going to be the model for the way we all get treated under Obamacare or whatever other single-payer, price-fixing, shortage-inducing medical utopia they dream up next?””
      YES

    • Publican

      The Veterans Health Administration service is of the highest quality and efficiency. If the VA hospital cannot service you they let you make the choice of where to go.
      Nobody relegates me to the VA, my choice is the VA, they are the best.

      • disqus_LASIg6epmj

        The VA has always treated my dad with wonderful care.

    • Publican

      The Veterans Health Administration service is of the highest quality and efficiency. If the VA hospital cannot service you they let you make the choice of where to go.
      Nobody relegates me to the VA, my choice is the VA, they are the best.

  • froggy184

    His family receives ZERO VA health benefits. Only the veteran is covered. This guy does have some challenges ahead and given the personal sacrifices he’s made, it would be nice to see him get some help with them. Everything isn’t about Obama, and taking this opportunity to minimize this man’s concerns for his family in order to make political points is missing the point. If the people on here were as concerned about helping vets as they are about scoring Pyrrhic political “victories” we could probably solve some of these issues. As it stands, I don’t see that happening. This is no different from the left making Sandy Hook into a gun control platform.

  • Paul__Revere

    Standard, Ezra Klein is an Orwellian “Squealer”

  • dba_vagabond_trader

    Mantra of the msm; fake but accurate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Milehighgi Eric Atkins

    As an Army NCO with 16+ years in, what doesn’t make sense to me isn’t that he’s getting out, it’s that he seems surprised and offended by the lack of pension and coverage that comes with getting out at that stage in his career. SM’s reasons for getting out are varied, and I know a number that got out with between 14 and 19 years in.

    While it was puzzling to me, they had good reasons in their minds, and we respected that even if we didn’t understand. BUT… they ALL had a plan. They ALL knew that getting out at that stage would mean losing their insurance and chance for a pension beyond the optional 401K we are all offered. He knows this, and like in every unit, he is surrounded by buddies who know he’s getting out and make sure he is flooded with arguments for staying in and advice about how to make the transition out easier. AND he WILL be made to talk with a counselor before getting out who will make sure he knows what to expect. He also earns 30 days of leave a year. He can hoard up to about 90 days for use as “terminal leave”. During this transition period, he has no more required interaction with the military, but he gets paid and covered as he is still technically on active duty. He can use that to go get a job and health coverage. However, EVERY SM that I’ve ever known who got out at that stage had a job (or at least a business plan or slew of interviews) and coverage lined up before ever even signing out on leave. They all knew what they were doing and planned for it.

    It’s hard to explain to civilians, but getting out at 16 years is like yelling “I’m going to jump off this cliff!” As you walk to the cliff, you are overwhelmed with people asking you why you are doing it, trying to convince you to not do it, citing all the things you will be giving up. These people will include your buddies, your chain of command, health care providers, military counselors, and every perfect stranger in uniform you run into who you happen to tell. You can not then complain that no one told you jumping off a cliff would nearly kill you. By the same token, he can’t complain that he was abandoned and that he had no idea what was coming.

    Any professional career Soldier/Sailor/Airman/Marine knows that ignorance and surprise are just not a valid arguments.

    Another thing that I’m puzzled by… If he really was a SEAL, if he really did what he said he did, Are you really telling me that a company like Xe or Triple Canopy or Aegis or other private security company wouldn’t hire him in a minute? Or that he couldn’t work with military gear companies to promote their gear? He can’t very well cite privacy as a concern when he went to the media to tell this story.

    While I have the utmost respect for all my brothers and sisters in arms and their reasons for the decisions they make, every once in a blue moon there are some crazy or helpless wingnuts here and there who make you wonder how they ever convinced someone to let them wear the uniform. It happens. But they are almost always identified early… long before they would have passed boot camp, passed BUDS, passed SEAL training, and passed being selected for SEAL Team Six… and then selected to be on Team Get Bin Laden. This story, while may have some true elements, taken as a whole, is just to fantastic to believe. Sure, I know the government has screwed some people over, but the scenario here does not look at all like that. It looks more like a SM who got out without listening to a word from anyone, including his gov’t, for the last 18 months of his career.

    • booger71

      Very good analysis.

    • Geoff

      zzz

    • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

      Very valid points. And you’re spot on about Aegis, Xe or others who are too numerous to mention. Hell, he could have easily gone on to become an analyst at any other DOD contractor or even for the Gov’t. This story has so many BS factors.

    • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

      Very valid points. And you’re spot on about Aegis, Xe or others who are too numerous to mention. Hell, he could have easily gone on to become an analyst at any other DOD contractor or even for the Gov’t. This story has so many BS factors.

    • Worship Dancer

      yea that’s my take on it too.

      and as someone who was one of those who counseled those thinking about leaving regardless of how many years in they had.

      they HAD to outprocess through me AND the Guard & Reserve recruiters while we told them what they were going to experience by leaving BEFORE qualifying for retirement.

      my BS flag was raised by this as well.

      by the way they don’t call it TERMINAL leave any more they call it TRANSITIONAL leave. the word terminal sounded like a “death sentence” was how it was explained.

      and yea i had that 90 to take so i could move my household, find a new home, etc. it was still a shock tho.

      wow it’s over. done. i’m really just a civilian now. crap. i had to adjust my entire way of thinking including how i communicate. civilians just don’t understand those acronyms. 😉

  • James The 87,679,756th

    This whole bin laden shooter story is absurd. None of this makes any sense as the Esquire write the story. By the way, I guess my comments here have been censored and removed? Really? Why?

  • James The 87,679,756th

    Every soldier knows (and its even in the contract) you leave before 20, you get nothing. So what’s the deal here?

    • Pharnham

      An opportunity for the legacy media to exploit mindless sentimentalism in pursuit of advancing the Obama agenda.

      Anytime the legacy media purports to have “concern” for a military member, all manner of red flags, sirens, and flashing lights should go off.

  • Marbran

    Actually, the truth is that the Navy SEAL was given so many briefings about his separation benefits in the months before he left that he just blocked it all out. How dare the Navy bombard him with so much information – that’s torture! Ezra Klein should do a story on that abuse! /sarc

  • John Holland

    Who cares if some soldier has insurance? There are 47 million Americans without health insurance. That’s what he was fighting for.

    • Pharnham

      He was fighting for insurance? Maybe you should stick to stock trading, and leave important discussions for those with the brainpower.

    • Anthony Jerk

      And he was fighting for free cell phones…right?

  • Anthony Jerk

    It is very realistic that one who retires from the military does not fully understand the benefits they receive OR when they actually kick in. It is confusing YET if you ask, you will get the answer…eventually.

  • JP

    I only served 4 yrs. in the army over 20 years ago, I still have free VA healthcare today. This information is given to you as part of your separation process from the military. You have to go through this “clearing” process, and part of that is a VA appointment. I am a Desert Storm vet. I know these OIF and OEF vets have healthcare available through the VA, along with many other benefits. I see them at the VA all the time. These “reporters” need to do some simple research and they could find this out. They are not looking to report fact, but trying to push a story for their own benefit.

  • Christopher Gadsden

    Filthy propagandists lie. It’s all they know what to do. Do you believe any of them? This OBL fairy tale is BS from top to bottom. Western intelligence created the boogie man to harass the Russians. When the western globalists made friends with the Russians, they pointed the boogie man back at themselves as a pretext to steal the liberty of the only real threat to their rule – a burgeoning western middle class. Wake up to the criminals you call “leaders”.

  • solos42

    Anyone who has been through the process ought to know there are some giving out wrong information. We were given the round around until we were worn out. Not everyone knows the information they are trying to give out. I wouldn’t be too quick to say this is a totally false story, unless you have gone through the process. Much red tape and poor directions, a person become muddled down. The pile of shit is offensive,rated at teenage maturity level.

  • Brad Gates

    Uhm…I worked around the West Coast SEAL community back in the late 90’s. I was also in the USN for a couple years in the mid 00’s. Bronstein’s story smell of utter bull**** on a several levels.

    Whiners don’t make it into the SEAL teams, the community doesn’t tolerate or build this kind of attitude in people…the comments of the “SEAL” in Bronstein’s story doesn’t sound anything like the team guys I’ve known.

    Also, when I left the Navy (honorable) we had a week of training that we had to get signed off on before we could complete our exit paperwork. This training covered, financial planning, medical coverage, va benefits, job training…it just went on and on. I was an absolute nobody compared to this supposed “SEAL” that Bronstein so roundly relies upon…How did he not receive any of the exit training when the SEAL community does so much to care for its own?

    Again, totally smells of MSM bull****. Bronstein should be ashamed of himself using this tactic to further a political agenda. Some of the team guys need to invite him down the team bars in Coronado or IB for some 1 on 1 interviews if you get my dritft.

  • Drew Longview

    The whole story doesn’t make since unless the SEAL has lost his mental faculties and is being exploited since this type of info is drilled into you, especially when you are processing out of the military.

  • Geoff

    The “Big Steaming Pile of BS” is all the cornball crap the SEALs laid on this doofus reporter while he was sitting there thinking he was now “one of the boys”. I see where offers of money, jobs, and even a house are flooding in. This must be “The Shooter’s” fallback post-separation plan…cashing in anonymously LOL, without actually cashing in. Want to bet the author of the article is currently acting as his “agent”?

    Well played…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Roy-Nelson/100000559784574 Roy Nelson

    He made his choice. He could have pushed paper for 36 months and had a retirement.

  • sailordude

    FYI that 5 years of VA care is for his war wounds and also they means test you if you want care for something not from the war wounds.He needs to file for a VA benefit and get lifetime care for any disability he suffered. I watched the interview on Fox and the reason they gave why he got out was he didn’t want a desk job for 4 years. Free country dude, don’t go whining on decisions you made on your own free will. He is a hero but he sounds like a simpleton. A trigger happy one, wish he had not killed an old unarmed man we could have interrogated to find the other rats. What happened to using flash bangs? I’m thinking his orders were shoot to kill. With Obama being the kill em with drones President, is it far fetched to say this?

  • http://www.facebook.com/swartzy1 Shawn Swartz

    The VA will cover him, but not his family

  • Anthony Jerk

    I’m still unclear here: did he retire or did he leave the military before retirement. There is a big difference.

    • $26547161

      He dedicated 16 years of his life and maintained his Oath. Something Obama and Biden seem to have a hard time doing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Scotty-Malone/100002593567693 Scott Scotty Malone

    I’ve been out of the military for 20 years. I am in priorty group 2 at the VA with a 30% rating. I was not in combat like this SEAL. I was an air craft mechanic. I call BS on this article. After 20 years i remember my out processing briefing and explanation of VA benefits available. I can’t believe a first tier special forces operator would’ve been unaware of what’s avaialble to him. If he was in 16 years he didn’t do the 20 required for retirement at therefor not elidgable for penison. But if he suffered the injuries in the military the story cities i’m sure he’s get a rating from the VA. Again I call BS on the entire story. I admitt i was duped when i read it this mornign and was pissed but on reflection i think some reported used this guy as a prop to make a name for himself. Which is also disturbing that the SEAL would allow it. BUt i’m not shocked a POS reporter would do it.

  • John W. Kerr

    Oh, I get it now! If I want to become a “journalist” I must be TOO STUPID to “fact check” my stories as that my impair my journalistic integrity and jeprodise my credentials! Being a slow learner I have yet to achieve that level of sheer stupidity!!!

    • ATM

      They aren’t stupid. They are cunning. Don’t underestimate what they are trying to do.

  • JonStarknight

    You know those Seals should be set for life after what they, accomplished.

    • Christopher Gadsden

      Yes, propaganda tools used to promote a fairy tale should be worshipped. But why are they all being killed in extraordinary “accidents”?

      • JonStarknight

        That’s what I want to know

      • ATM

        Because they aren’t supposed to talk and the message is being sent.

  • Dove

    And General Motors is alive!

    • $26547161

      And free ObamaPhones!

  • jjca

    What? They would have ended up charging him over BS UCMJ infractions and kicking him out anyway. This is what they do if they aren’t doing what they’re doing to him now. My kids will never serve unless drafted.

  • Peejay70

    Also, you know, if he wanted a pension and health coverage for life, he could have just stayed in for 4 more years. Not that hard to do.

  • JINNASH

    These people counldn’t be anymore dumber

  • [email protected]

    This is absolutely not true about not having healthcare coverage. As a combat veteran his healthcare is free of charge from the Department of Veterans Affairs even if his disability claim has not been processed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/patrick.drennan.39 Patrick Drennan

    NO WAY! THE MEDIA molding an article to benefit their POV. GET OUT OF HERE!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/floyd.taylor.370 Floyd Taylor

    I thought Obama killed him with his bare hands. You mean I have been wrong all this time?

    • $26547161

      Obama did it while wearing his mom jeans.

  • Daz Word

    I call BS! I am an honorably discharged veteran from my service in the USCG. I have coverage under the VA, even to the point they paid for emergency care on several occasions and I have a yearly physical to boot. All I did to get it was to apply online and present my DD214 in person at a VA Medical facility. My meds are also paid for in full. What’s the problem?

  • http://www.facebook.com/charlesaustin.miller.7 Charles Austin Miller

    Osama died of kidney failure in 2001, not long after 911… His life-after-death antics and his “execution” by Navy SEALs is pure bovine defecation.

    • ATM

      no body……. supposedly dumped into the Indian Ocean…….. no pics….. no DNA….. no nothing but a good made for TV story.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1489524484 Rebecca Leigh Randolph

    The entire story is BS….the guy supposedly is worried about the safety of his family but is also emphatic that he doesn’t want to carry a gun (gee, that fits right into the gun grabbers narrative) and obama comes off as looking a lot better than the book written by a former SEAL claims….they even make it sound like Obama was calling all the shots when it came to the raid and that the military took into consideration that the night before was the Correspondent’s Dinner….that’s nonsense

  • Howzah123

    Ezra Klown lied again? I’m shocked. Truly.

  • Brian Kelsey

    When I went through out-processing at the end of my enlistment I was lied to about my benefits. It happens all the time.

    • ATM

      Lied to or were you simply talking to an incompetent government bureaucrat? There is a difference.

  • BYODB

    It was obvious when the story broke yesterday that there were questions that needed to be asked. It’s sad that not a single journalist did any research. Twitter, my friends, is NOT a source of information. Some of these guys should go back to Journalism school, including their editors.

  • leer

    I was scratching my head on the no insurance as well. He will always be covered by the VA till death. As an OIF vet myself, I’ve paid nothing for the care I receive at the Boston VA . My co-pays will change as i’m coming up on the 5 year mark..

  • amyshulk

    I got out in ’91 after 11 years, and I still remember the day (days? I have a really bad memory) of transitioning seminars. TONS of paperwork, and how we would transition on life & health insurance.

    That said? The D’s love to decry “Big HMO’s” as being so awful, and denying *all* claims, whether they have merit or not, yet *never* mention the extreme difficulty one must go through to get accepted by the VA. Or for that matter, SSI.

    My discharge was medical, and I was advised to photocopy every single page of my health record if I was going to need it before a year or 2 had passed. *BEST* advice I ever got!

    So while he doesn’t have NO health coverage, what he does have – and what he was probably told about during the transitioning seminars – are probably miles apart!!!

    What I don’t get? After 16 years, he didn’t figure out that *everything* is political in the service, and that there is so *much* info, that you have to know somebody who knows the pertinent stuff or you will get screwed over!

  • Twason Wiser

    He only had 36 more months… why not stay in and get your retirement benefits like many of us did ?! If he’s getting out with only 36 months left, then you generally already have a plan to cover yourself — either by a new job, book deal, some monetary endorsement, or whatever — you wouldn’t walk away from those kind of lifetime insurance and pay benefits that you garner after 20 years of service in the military. Everyone in the military in for that length of time knows the importance of getting to that 20 year mark. Those are rather good benefits to just throw away … pay (reduced some what) & health for the rest of your life. WTF? Even if you didn’t listen to the outgoing processing, or skipped it entirely, you still know the importance of staying in up to that 20 year anniversary. Something’s just not right with this story.

    Possibly this entire story is bogus … lots of it just do not make any sense when pieced together.

    A reporter trying to make a name for himself, or some vet (who was not the one who killed Osama) doing the same???

  • Twason Wiser

    He only had 36 more months… why not stay in and get your retirement benefits like many of us did ?! If he’s getting out with only 36 months left, then you generally already have a plan to cover yourself — either by a new job, book deal, some monetary endorsement, or whatever — you wouldn’t walk away from those kind of lifetime insurance and pay benefits that you garner after 20 years of service in the military. Everyone in the military in for that length of time knows the importance of getting to that 20 year mark. Those are rather good benefits to just throw away … pay (reduced some what) & health for the rest of your life. WTF? Even if you didn’t listen to the outgoing processing, or skipped it entirely, you still know the importance of staying in up to that 20 year anniversary. Something’s just not right with this story.

    Possibly this entire story is bogus … lots of it just do not make any sense when pieced together.

    A reporter trying to make a name for himself, or some vet (who was not the one who killed Osama) doing the same???

  • TexMarine

    I call BS on this guy being who he’s claiming. It doesn’t add up. No way you spent 16 years in and didn’t know anything about life afterwards. He, allegedly, walked away from a pension, didn’t go to seps, and went to Esquire? Where are his shipmates? Something’s not adding up.

  • TexMarine

    I call BS on this guy being who he’s claiming. It doesn’t add up. No way you spent 16 years in and didn’t know anything about life afterwards. He, allegedly, walked away from a pension, didn’t go to seps, and went to Esquire? Where are his shipmates? Something’s not adding up.

  • http://twitter.com/drlombardo Dr. Lombardo

    Are you kidding me? 5 years of VA care is hardly a healthcare solution. The VA is a massively bureaucratic organization and if you ever dealt with them to get healthcare you would not believe that Navy SEAL is getting what he deserves. Second, it is nothing like the years of Tricare that longer serving veterans get. Many of the ailments that combat vets suffer from can last longer than five years or surface later in life.

    • Combat_Vet

      “To care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow, and his orphan,”
      The VA will provide health care for him for anything that connected to his military service. This care is not limited to any length of time. “Service Connected” is the connection required for care, the VA is not an HMO.
      As a retired service member I am also sure as are others that he was aware of all of this.
      It sounds like someone is looking for media fame!

    • Combat_Vet

      “To care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow, and his orphan,”
      The VA will provide health care for him for anything that connected to his military service. This care is not limited to any length of time. “Service Connected” is the connection required for care, the VA is not an HMO.
      As a retired service member I am also sure as are others that he was aware of all of this.
      It sounds like someone is looking for media fame!

  • http://twitter.com/drlombardo Dr. Lombardo

    Are you kidding me? 5 years of VA care is hardly a healthcare solution. The VA is a massively bureaucratic organization and if you ever dealt with them to get healthcare you would not believe that Navy SEAL is getting what he deserves. Second, it is nothing like the years of Tricare that longer serving veterans get. Many of the ailments that combat vets suffer from can last longer than five years or surface later in life.

  • seaarrow

    Facts never get in the way of liberal reporters.

  • seaarrow

    Facts never get in the way of liberal reporters.

  • Chuck Stamford

    “Phil Bronstein is the former editor of the San Francisco Chronicle and currently serves as executive chairman of the Center for Investigative Reporting. This piece was reported in cooperation with CIR.”

    Read more: Man Who Killed Osama Bin Laden – Treatment of Veteran Who Shot bin Laden – Esquire http://www.esquire.com/features/man-who-shot-osama-bin-laden-0313#ixzz2Kip0YmZ5

    From the CIR webpage “About”:

    “In today’s media landscape, many news organizations no longer report –
    they merely repost. The Center for Investigative Reporting (CIR) is different. We arm the public with thoroughly reported stories that offer deep explanations of complex issues – from the environment to immigration, government accountability, education, health, campaign finance and more. And we cover those stories locally, nationally and internationally. Founded in 1977, CIR is the nation’s oldest nonprofit investigative reporting organization – producing multimedia reporting that enables
    people to demand accountability from government, corporations and others
    in power.

    Our staff includes highly-skilled reporters who know how to cultivate
    sources and find hidden information; engineers and analysts who create
    sophisticated news apps, interactive maps and tools to help the public
    understand issues from the macro to the micro level; and radio, video
    and multimedia producers who create engaging documentaries, videos and
    animated features to demystify complex topics. CIR’s distribution and
    engagement team then works to deliver this information across hundreds
    of outlets and to engage our readers, listeners, viewers, and those most
    impacted by our reporting in the search for solutions.”

    (http://cironline.org/about-cir)

    So, using the cream of the investigative journalistic crop who know how to “cultivate sources and find hidden information” so as “to help the public understand” and “to demystify complex topics” for them, Phil Bronstein either lied or failed to do his job. There is no third plausible way to understand this story. Bronstein tried to conflate two unrelated propositions; the proposition that the Bin Laden shooter now lacks VA healthcare coverage, and the proposition that no VA healthcare was on offer for him. And the inclusion of his lack of a pension as somehow unjust is nearly as absurd. To receive a 20 year military pension you need to remain in the military for 20 years or equivalent…duh. Even Bronstein notes he failed to meet that standard. Maybe Congress should start offering pensions attached to medals given for heroism. I’d encourage my representatives to vote for such a measure, even to making it retro-active for all living medal recipients, but the fact remains that’s an entirely irrelevant and separate issue in this case.

    All this spin is clearly designed to create a story where none exists. It is, however, an illuminating example of just how incoherent the liberal view of the world actually is. Here is an undoubtedly liberal “investigative reporter” making up a story about a famous veteran being victimized (which advances the liberal “we are all victims of one thing or another that is dear to the hearts of evil conservatives” narrative), but does so at the expense of the liberal Democratic Obama Administration that ran on a plank of fixing just these sorts of problems in the military. In fact, with a little independent research into the issue, it’s not difficult to find that far from fixing these sorts of problems with the VA since they’ve been in office, the Obama Administration has made them much worse! Delays in adjudicating veteran’s claims have increased nearly 100% in the last five years! So on the one hand Bronstein’s ginned up “story” advances the liberal cause on one conceptual front, but at the cost of hurting it on another front. This is typical of the liberal thought process in attacking problems. The process has no real potential to fix anything; at BEST it simply re-classifies a problem and moves it to another area of concern; if done well, one that isn’t presently in focus. It’s like a conceptual shell game, and credit where it’s due, Bronstein is a master at it.

    What’s really important here is making transparent the lie CIR tells about itself; recognizing it for the liberal spin doctor that it actually is as it claims to “… arm the public with thoroughly reported stories that offer deep explanations of complex issues”. HOGWASH! At least when one goes to a conservative “think tank” or news outlet, they generally ADMIT their political philosophy UP FRONT, instead of hiding it in a field of platitudes as CIR has.

  • Chuck Stamford

    “Phil Bronstein is the former editor of the San Francisco Chronicle and currently serves as executive chairman of the Center for Investigative Reporting. This piece was reported in cooperation with CIR.”

    Read more: Man Who Killed Osama Bin Laden – Treatment of Veteran Who Shot bin Laden – Esquire http://www.esquire.com/features/man-who-shot-osama-bin-laden-0313#ixzz2Kip0YmZ5

    From the CIR webpage “About”:

    “In today’s media landscape, many news organizations no longer report –
    they merely repost. The Center for Investigative Reporting (CIR) is different. We arm the public with thoroughly reported stories that offer deep explanations of complex issues – from the environment to immigration, government accountability, education, health, campaign finance and more. And we cover those stories locally, nationally and internationally. Founded in 1977, CIR is the nation’s oldest nonprofit investigative reporting organization – producing multimedia reporting that enables
    people to demand accountability from government, corporations and others
    in power.

    Our staff includes highly-skilled reporters who know how to cultivate
    sources and find hidden information; engineers and analysts who create
    sophisticated news apps, interactive maps and tools to help the public
    understand issues from the macro to the micro level; and radio, video
    and multimedia producers who create engaging documentaries, videos and
    animated features to demystify complex topics. CIR’s distribution and
    engagement team then works to deliver this information across hundreds
    of outlets and to engage our readers, listeners, viewers, and those most
    impacted by our reporting in the search for solutions.”

    (http://cironline.org/about-cir)

    So, using the cream of the investigative journalistic crop who know how to “cultivate sources and find hidden information” so as “to help the public understand” and “to demystify complex topics” for them, Phil Bronstein either lied or failed to do his job. There is no third plausible way to understand this story. Bronstein tried to conflate two unrelated propositions; the proposition that the Bin Laden shooter now lacks VA healthcare coverage, and the proposition that no VA healthcare was on offer for him. And the inclusion of his lack of a pension as somehow unjust is nearly as absurd. To receive a 20 year military pension you need to remain in the military for 20 years or equivalent…duh. Even Bronstein notes he failed to meet that standard. Maybe Congress should start offering pensions attached to medals given for heroism. I’d encourage my representatives to vote for such a measure, even to making it retro-active for all living medal recipients, but the fact remains that’s an entirely irrelevant and separate issue in this case.

    All this spin is clearly designed to create a story where none exists. It is, however, an illuminating example of just how incoherent the liberal view of the world actually is. Here is an undoubtedly liberal “investigative reporter” making up a story about a famous veteran being victimized (which advances the liberal “we are all victims of one thing or another that is dear to the hearts of evil conservatives” narrative), but does so at the expense of the liberal Democratic Obama Administration that ran on a plank of fixing just these sorts of problems in the military. In fact, with a little independent research into the issue, it’s not difficult to find that far from fixing these sorts of problems with the VA since they’ve been in office, the Obama Administration has made them much worse! Delays in adjudicating veteran’s claims have increased nearly 100% in the last five years! So on the one hand Bronstein’s ginned up “story” advances the liberal cause on one conceptual front, but at the cost of hurting it on another front. This is typical of the liberal thought process in attacking problems. The process has no real potential to fix anything; at BEST it simply re-classifies a problem and moves it to another area of concern; if done well, one that isn’t presently in focus. It’s like a conceptual shell game, and credit where it’s due, Bronstein is a master at it.

    What’s really important here is making transparent the lie CIR tells about itself; recognizing it for the liberal spin doctor that it actually is as it claims to “… arm the public with thoroughly reported stories that offer deep explanations of complex issues”. HOGWASH! At least when one goes to a conservative “think tank” or news outlet, they generally ADMIT their political philosophy UP FRONT, instead of hiding it in a field of platitudes as CIR has.

  • Steve McKinney

    Why let the facts get in the way of a good story….

  • Steve McKinney

    Why let the facts get in the way of a good story….

  • Guest

    Why do congressmen and women get a full pension after only one yr. of sleeping in congress?????????????????

  • http://youtu.be/SjUPb4J_MGo world’s greatest orator

    Bronstein’s that guy who was assaulted by a gecko at the zoo, right?

  • RedViolets

    From what I understand, the program that is available sucks. And I think the point that the writer was trying to make is that HELLO! THIS IS THE MAN THAT SHOT BIN LADEN! He should have so much more! We should be doing more for him and for his team, and while we’re at it, for all of our veterans. He should not have a broken system to sort of fall back on for five years. I can’t believe republicans in general aren’t jumping up Obama’s ass to fix this. This man, I believe, after reading both sides of the stories, deserves much, much more than what he got. He’s a hero, for crying out loud! He stormed into a freaking compound and shot a terrorist in the head. He deserves more than the promise of a change of name to protect his safety and a job driving a beer truck!

    • aliswell

      First, this hero did his job. It matters not WHAT that job was, he did it. He was trained for this very type of operation and he pulled it off successfully. Bravo! This man deserves our gratitude and respect, but NOT special treatment. And as a soldier his own honor should prevent him from seeking special treatment.

      Second, this man left 36 months shy of full benefits. The article never addresses WHY he left, he simply did. He did so of his own accord and full knowledge of what he was abandoning ~ his full benefits. He was undoubtedly hurting ~ mentally and physically, but he should’ve stuck it out if securing full benefits was THAT critical to him.

      Third, I agree our vets deserve better than driving a beer truck, so what’s holding them back? People are hired for their skill levels. I find it difficult to believe they’re deliberately being ignored and rejected BECAUSE they’re vets, so something else must be at the root of the problem. There’s no information about the skills these men have pertaining to the fields they’re tryting to enter.

  • vperl

    most of you people, do not have a clue about the VA . the VA provide excellent service to the
    veteran. VA claims for disability do take 6 months maybe a little longer. when the cl aim is awarded the retroactive pay is given to him . and many cases he may be paid for a year or 2 depending on when this case was first started.

    going through this process of waiting for his claims to be awarded is the way things are done. no one gets special treatment you wait in line like everyone else .

    I have gone through this process twice , it is not pretty but it does work . I cannot believe his fellow seals left him to flounder around all by himself, I think that’s a bunch of misleading crap . maybe his fellow seals are a bunch of jerks. and my branch of service we take care of our combat veterans even if we do it ourselves in small group . some veterans will not take any help . these veterans are the ones that need the most help and it’s impossible to get them help because they do not want help.. programs for all these veterans are available it is up to the veteran to make himself available and in a mindset to accept any and all help.

    I figured this story is full BS.

    ,seals probably are taking care of him right now if no 1 else is .

  • OwlCreekObserver

    I served for 23 years and when I first heard this story I knew there had to be a lot more to it than was reported. I don’t care who the guy is, if he walked away short of being retirement eligible, he had to have known what he was facing.

  • nathanmartin25

    I know that HE gets VA benefits. But his family sure doesn’t and this was his (the shooter’s) main concern if you read the piece. I would also point out that the VA health system is nothing more than socialist medicine for our troops. Hardly adequate healthcare.

  • $5326605

    First, I thank the shooter for his service. He is a tougher man than I by far.

    The story of line of how he is being screwed with no benefits is however, total crap. I was active duty for 27.5 years, and the story is simply full of huge holes.

    No servicemember receives a pension for less than 20 years from DoD unless medically retired. Drive a desk, a tank, a plane, or bullets into OBL, it takes 20 years to “retire” at 50% of base pay (and only base pay). A 20 year active duty vet also has Tricare medical for himself, spouse, and kids under 18 (older if in college).

    A special ops guy with 16 years service would KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt that bailing at 16 years means NO retirement pay and no tricare for family. I don’t understand why he didn’t choose to serve another 4 years since he was so close. If the ops tempo and experiences wiped him out (it would me), there were options to serve as trainer, planner, desk job etc.

    He is also going to be qualified for VA disabilty payments and medical for himself (not family).

    I quote: “his body filled with scar tissue, arthritis, tendonitis, eye damage, and blown disks”.

    He has to fill out VA paper work, then undergo a medical exam by VA doctors and staff. If all those injuries are verified, he will draw a VA compensation of tax free dollars, and also have free medical care at VA faciilties (rated over 20 percent service connected disabilities).

    He is choosing to not re-enlist to finish the 20 years for retirement. It may be PTSD, stress, family matters, or just personal reasons. BUT, he is making the choice or has been rejected for cause. They are not offering a medical discharge to him, which would give a pension. Never the less, the VA system is there for him, for a monetary compensation for injuries on active duty, and for medical care for him.

    And, as well, every ***combat veteran*** of the ***Iraq and Afghanistan wars***, is automatically eligible for five years of free healthcare through the Department of Veterans Affairs. So while waiting for the VA to process his disability claim, he is covered for medical care for 5 years. With his list of injuries, he will no doubt be covered for life.

    The MSM is distorting the facts – probably to backup Obamacare. As to the warrior himself, I salute the shooter – cream of the crop of military warriors.

  • jessix

    What’s this all about? Our brave PRESIDENT OBAMA killed Osama Bin Laden!

  • http://www.facebook.com/ned.lofton Ned Lofton

    He could stay in reserves for 4 more years and get full retirement pay and benefits at age 62.

  • David_from_San_Diego

    What’s the motive for that misleading story claiming “Shooter” had no health insurance upon discharge? To make us support Obama Care?
    My health insurance has more than DOUBLED over the past four years. Why?
    I’m tired of paying for other people’s needs. VETERANS should have health care because they EARNED it. Welfare recipients should not get free health care because they have not earned it. It’s as simple as that.

  • Ultraworld

    He can’t hang in for 36 more months, get a book deal & retire? I recognize he’s a hero, all Seal teams are. But do 36 months training shooters & retire at 20 yrs. I think he’ll be fine, but I wish him the best.

  • Navy VeteranCPO

    As a Navy Senior Chief retired, something rang very wrong with this entire situation. However, I bought into the entire narrative and I am a little ticked off about it.

    I was medically retired at 17 years. When I first saw this story I thought to myself why the heck didn’t his LCPO or MCPO advise him on what he was about to do. Why wasn’t he sent to TAP (Transition Assistance Program) where he would have learned what he needed to know before he got out and what to expect after. The accounts I read today were that he had serious injuries including arthritis and head trauma.

    I have advised many of my Sailors what to do regarding not re-enlisting and what to expect. When I heard about this I was puzzled, and in a way still am, why he did not go get a medical evaluation If his injuries are severe enough, he could have been medically discharged and with that receive all the benefits a Sailor would if they stayed in for twenty; Tricare insurance, access to base facilities, and if his retirement pay was less than his VA disability pay he would receive the VA compensation. If someone stays in for twenty they would receive both VA compensation along with 50% of their base pay when they were discharged.

    Something still does not ring true with me regarding this entire situation. I cannot put my finger on it but I know that his superiors would never let him leave without him receiving this information.

  • Navy VeteranCPO

    As a Navy Senior Chief retired, something rang very wrong with this entire situation. However, I bought into the entire narrative and I am a little ticked off about it.

    I was medically retired at 17 years. When I first saw this story I thought to myself why the heck didn’t his LCPO or MCPO advise him on what he was about to do. Why wasn’t he sent to TAP (Transition Assistance Program) where he would have learned what he needed to know before he got out and what to expect after. The accounts I read today were that he had serious injuries including arthritis and head trauma.

    I have advised many of my Sailors what to do regarding not re-enlisting and what to expect. When I heard about this I was puzzled, and in a way still am, why he did not go get a medical evaluation If his injuries are severe enough, he could have been medically discharged and with that receive all the benefits a Sailor would if they stayed in for twenty; Tricare insurance, access to base facilities, and if his retirement pay was less than his VA disability pay he would receive the VA compensation. If someone stays in for twenty they would receive both VA compensation along with 50% of their base pay when they were discharged.

    Something still does not ring true with me regarding this entire situation. I cannot put my finger on it but I know that his superiors would never let him leave without him receiving this information.

  • http://twitter.com/LindasTony LindasTony

    Huh…”Legitimate Press” indeed!

  • jhsif

    Shall we make the t-shirt yet “I killed bin laden and all I got was this crummy t-shirt?”

  • Worship Dancer

    he left with less than 20 years. having retired from the military myself AND having been in personnel for all of my career including the last 12 being active reserve – . Unless he was forced to leave due to an injury or was early retired due to a force reduction he would not be eligible for any retirement benefits. if he feels he SHOULD be entitled due to an injury or some other reason he can talk to hi VA rep. otherwise, it was his decision to leave before he qualified for retirement. he could have transferred into the active reserve but like it mentions above yea his life wouldn’t necessarily be his own. he could be recalled to active duty, but the good part is if he made it to 18 years active duty even if he was a reservist he could have claimed sanctuary. yea i know all about that law. it doesn’t say WHY he left so it’s hard to actually say with any certainty that he is NOT eligible for medical care like tricare or at the very least the VA but i would guess he left on his own accord. sad but it’s the same if you leave a civilian job before you are vested – you lose all your benefits. it is what it is.

  • spot_the_dog

    A bit of an update, for those still following this:

    Commander denies SEAL’s claim made in Esquire article
    By Jim Miklaszewski and Courtney Kube, NBC News

    The commander of the Naval Special Warfare Command denies allegations made in an Esquire feature article that the SEAL team member who claims he first shot Osama bin Laden was left in the dark about what benefits were available to him after he left the service.

    “This former SEAL made a deliberate and informed decision to leave the Navy several years short of retirement status,” Rear Adm. Sean Pybus, commander of Naval Special Warfare Command, wrote in a statement. “Months ahead of his separation, he was counseled on status and benefits, and provided with options to continue his career until retirement eligible. Claims to the contrary in these matters are false.”

    Pybus said he is “very disappointed with the few people who use their SEAL cachet for self-serving purposes, particularly through falsehoods and certainly when the safety and security of themselves and their active-duty teammates and families are put at risk.”

    [RTWT: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/14/16964372-commander-denies-seals-claim-made-in-esquire-article?lite ]

  • 0WLBORE

    Headless Icons. How appropriate for you, Porter. That’s exactly how your Muslim heroes in Afghanistan would like to see you. I would prefer you try making it through Marine Corps boot camp. Fat chance, huh? Better yet, why not cozy up to the bar at McP’s Irish Pub & Grill in Coronado and enjoy a cool one. I’ll buy for the night! Yeah, on me! Hell, I’ll toss in a steak dinner or veggies if you’re a vegan. I’m sure the boys there would just love to hear your opinion of the Seals. That one about the rabid dogs part was great. Make sure you use that one, OK? If I don’t make it, make sure you let me know how it feels getting a new one torn.

  • jjca

    This man get his ass kicked regularly. Its always been like that for Porter.