Lying liars at Esquire double down, falsely claim they disclosed former Navy SEAL’s eligibility for VA benefits; Update: Esquire (finally) acknowledges error

Yesterday, Esquire magazine came out with an article falsely claiming that the former Navy SEAL who shot Osama bin Ladin was not offered any health care benefits upon leaving the Navy. As Twitchy documented this morning, Esquire’s false claim was echoed by numerous MSM outlets, including the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal.

Now Esquire has posted a duplicitous follow-up article in which the editors claim they disclosed former Navy SEAL’s eligibility for VA benefits:

In the Stars & Stripes piece, [Stars and Stripes reporter Megan McCloskey] writes:

“Like every combat veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the former SEAL…is automatically eligible for five years of free healthcare through the Department of Veterans Affairs. But the story doesn’t mention that.”

Now granted, “The Shooter” is a long story, lots of words to sort through, but McCloskey is wrong here. We refer her to this paragraph deeper in the piece: “There is a Transition Assistance Program in the military, but it’s largely remedial level, rote advice of marginal value: Wear a tie to interviews, not your Corfam (black shiny service) shoes. Try not to sneeze in anyone’s coffee. There is also a program at MacDill Air Force Base designed to help Special Ops vets navigate various bureaucracies. And the VA does offer five years of benefits for specific service-related claims—but it’s not comprehensive and it offers nothing for the Shooter’s family.”

[Emphasis added.]

This echoes the claim made yesterday by the article’s author, Phil Bronstein:

The boldfaced sentence about the VA, however, does not appear in the Esquire article (at least not in the version that is online). Nor does the sentence about the program at MacDill Air Force Base. Here is the complete passage of the paragraph that appears online:

There is a Transition Assistance Program in the military, but it’s largely remedial level, rote advice of marginal value: Wear a tie to interviews, not your Corfam (black shiny service) shoes. Try not to sneeze in anyone’s coffee.

See for yourself.

And here are screencaps, just in case a sneaky editor tries to retroactively edit what was written.

From today’s rebuttal:

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From yesterday’s article:

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Update:

Esquire finally acknowledges what Brandon Friedman pointed out some 24 hours ago — namely, that the online version of its story did not include anything about the Navy SEAL being eligible for VA benefits.

Here is the note now posted at the beginning of the original article: “The original version of this story did not include a few sentences that ran in the issue printed last week. We regret the production error.”

Update:

Esquire’s follow-up post has not been corrected.

  • CatHerder

    SHHH! Revisionist historian at work!

  • Kevin Gallagher

    This sounds like a lot of made up jibberish from someone who read maybe half a page of the VA website. If you have a service connected injury the VA covers it for life. Sounds to me like that SEAL should have done 4 more years, maybe reclass into something not so intense, then retire with a pension and healthcare.

    • DreadPirateStarbucks

      You’re probably right. He should’ve done 4 more years. At the 16 year mark, it’s so close that it seems like a waste to not just do one more re-up. But for Twitchy to make a huge deal about an Esquire writer(who as you say, is probably just ignorant) trying to get the guy some help seems sort of silly to me.

      • rae palmer

        Twitchy is probably ignorant? “Twitchy” is Michelle Malkin, and if you have ever listened to her speak, you’d know she is far more intelligent and informed than any of you wise guys posting your blither on Twitter. Would you be willing to play Russian Roulette with your life for another 4 years? “Seems like a waste to not just do one more re-up”??? For crying out loud, this isn’t Call of Duty, where you get extra lives and the opportunity to start over in the game. This is real life, and in his world, the potential for real death is there every single day. Heck, the potential for death in the civilian world is highly likely as there is surely a bounty on his head from the Musliims. 16 years of service, risking his life for ungrateful smart-alecks like you, is quite enough.

        • DreadPirateStarbucks

          You don’t know anything about me. 20 years is what it takes to pull a pension and have lifetime insurance benefits from the military. I don’t know what your problem is. That’s just the policy, I didn’t write it. Get a grip. I said the Esquire writer is ignorant. Good grief.

          • lonestarlizard

            @Tebow, you incorrectly posted “20 years is what it takes to pull a pension and have lifetime insurance benefits from the military.”

            I wish that were true but it isn’t. 20 years gets us 50% of base pay. Each additional active duty year adds another 2.5%. Tricare is there (at cost, though very reasonable) until age 65. Then we get dumped into Medicare, which we have to pay for and Tricare becomes our secondary insurance (at no cost, yet). Yes, it is for life but it is not cost free. So much for the “Free medical for life” I and many others were promised in the early 1960s.

          • DreadPirateStarbucks

            You’re right. I forgot about “Tricare for Life”. :( And it seems as though it will only get worse. Terrible.

          • Figanootz

            You still have to get to the 20 year point.

        • Thom*

          After 1 year our warriors should be able to retire with full pay and health care

          • Figanootz

            That is grossly unrealistic. However, there are proposals that would give military members more portable benefits so that if that they don’t make it to 20 they will at least have a 401k type plan.

          • Lynne Allen

            why you vote the crummy congress people in year after year and look at the benefits they get. Oh and they all have private care with the best of doctors that we get to pay for.

          • Lynne Allen

            why you vote the crummy congress people in year after year and look at the benefits they get. Oh and they all have private care with the best of doctors that we get to pay for.

        • mtown_mike

          That came across as rather sheepish….

        • Bill

          Renea why don’t you simply stop posting here, the man signed a contract, the GOV fulfilled their responsibility, if he served 20 years he could retire anything less is for education/training.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

        I believe the focus of Twitchy is not preoccupation, rather it is to illustrate the false narratives that lefty outlets love to run with. Often, they do not fear being called out for their misrepresentation. Twitchy is just keeping them on their toes.

    • rae palmer

      Have you been in the military? Really? #1, 4 more years??? Something not so intense? Do you know ANYTHING about the military? He has risked his life for 16 years, watched comrades die, and been close to death himself. Another 4 years and he could very well end up dead. And there is no such thing as something “not so intense.” You don’t get to pick what you do in the military. THEY pick for you. You don’t get to say, “I’m not going to Afghanistan”, they just send you. Four more years is a huge risk.

      #2, my dad goes to the VA and has a Vietnam-war related disability. Their doctors are hideously horrible, and the “disability” clause hasn’t covered anything for him. His own insurance gets billed, and the VA does not pay squat. And, the “physicals” he has received from them only came decades after his service, when people finally realized Vietnam vets were getting absolutely nothing. The VA website is deceptive and leads people to think veterans are cared for, but it’s all baloney.

      • DreadPirateStarbucks

        I think it’s great that you come here, with all your bombast, not even realizing that the writer of the Esquire article, though incorrect, was just trying to draw attention to a service member in need, and instead of Twitchy harping on the government holding military pay raises hostage because of Obama’s sequester, or the fact that Obama is trying to take healthcare benefits away from retirees and active duty families, they are wasting their time on this ridiculous article. How do you not get that?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

          You could always use the search box to make sure the site has provided no coverage of sequestration before lambasting them…

          • DreadPirateStarbucks

            I read Twitchy almost daily. I know what they cover. The point I’m making is that this Esquire issue is not worth the hyperventilation given to it. And you know something? I don’t know what the false narrative is here. That the govt is screwing prior service members? Esquire may be going about making that point in an ignorant way, but I don’t necessarily believe that’s a “false” narrative just based on all the other factual ways the govt is doing just that. That’s all I’m saying.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

            The man said that he was without medical care. This was proven to be false. If that is not a false narrative to promote Esquires presupposed “The government loathes veterans” meme, what is?

          • DreadPirateStarbucks

            If he doesn’t know about it, what good does it do? Meanwhile, the same govt will hold the hands of illegals to get them welfare benefits. It still does not seem like a false narrative. We are probably just going to have to agree to disagree on this.

      • Claude Jones

        How many years did you spend in the military, Renea?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

        I believe the term “Your mileage might vary” would be appropriate here. I’ve found the care my father, stepfather, and husband received at various VA hospitals excellent and without private market parallel.

        • http://www.facebook.com/criska.lopez Criska Lopez

          My brother has Vietnam injuries and the VA in CA is excellent. His doctors respond faster than mine,

          • Lynne Allen

            Let me know where he goes we are in CA too.

          • Lynne Allen

            Let me know where he goes we are in CA too.

      • lonestarlizard

        You really don’t have a clue do you? Oh no, 4 more years is a huge risk. Goodness, a SEAL afraid of risk. Who woulda thunk it?

      • Bill

        The contract I signed was for retirement at 20, anything less is simply for VA benefits. Once his claim is adjudicated due to his military related injuries he will receive care and disability payments from the VA. I read the full article and simply laughed because they made it sound like he was out in the cold. It’s true he will not receive a pension but he will have benefits.

      • TLev

        Crap….I was military as well as family…doctors are wonderful as well as benefits. My brother needed a liver transplant and they did it for free. When you sign up you know what your in for and 4 more year was what he was in for. My father served 2 terms in Vietnam and then spent his last 6 years stationed in Illinois with the option to gain no more rank as long as they did not move him any longer…there are deals to be made in the service.

        • Lynne Allen

          Well food for you TLEV you are one of the few.

        • Lynne Allen

          Well food for you TLEV you are one of the few.

      • Figanootz

        20 years for pension that is 50% of your highest 3 years of base pay. That is the standard deal. Could the Navy put him in a different job? Absolutely. They could have made him an instructor and as a combat proven warrior I think that would have been fitting final tour to get to 20 years.
        As far as picking jobs goes, Renea, you are flat out wrong. Service in the military is voluntary and to be a SEAL you not only have to volunteer, you have to work your ass off to prove yourself worthy to be selected. No one is forced to be a SEAL.
        So the “shooter” only did 16 years. Why? Did he get out on his own because he thought he could cash in on his accomplishment? Or, was he kicked out because even though he killed Public Enemy #1 he was a screw up? If someone knows why he is out please provide the info because I have not seen it yet.

      • Kevin Gallagher

        Yes, I have. There are so many idiotic things in your post but I think all of them were covered by other posters. Someone with 16 years as a SEAL would make a great instructor at one of the many combat schools. Also, pretty much EVERYTHING is less intense than being a SEAL. Sounds to me like you are the one who has never served.

      • Publican

        I served four years Army. I choose the job I would do when enlisting.
        The VA health care benefit is the best. Quality of care is the best.

        Best of all my Veterans Health Care Benefit will make me exempt from the ACA (a.k.a. OBAMACARE). Veterans won’t need no stinkin’ obamacare.

      • Lynne Allen

        Renea everything you said is true my husband is a purple heart bronze star with V device vietnam vet and the va has treated him horribly it has taken 40 years for them to finally with the help of our congressman to start to get his benefits right lost papers can’t find this re-submit that. 40 YEARS that’s right so Kevin with your cute little baby picture what the hell do you really know about the VA? He has service related wounds and the VA couldn’t find there way out of wet paper bag.

      • Lynne Allen

        Renea everything you said is true my husband is a purple heart bronze star with V device vietnam vet and the va has treated him horribly it has taken 40 years for them to finally with the help of our congressman to start to get his benefits right lost papers can’t find this re-submit that. 40 YEARS that’s right so Kevin with your cute little baby picture what the hell do you really know about the VA? He has service related wounds and the VA couldn’t find there way out of wet paper bag.

    • Thom*

      All our warriors should retire with full pay and health care, dental included. Congress and the senate should get zilch. obama should be kicked out. Where is the Mafia when you need them?

      • Desert Storm Vet

        I agree with your first & second statements, Thom, assuming each of those honorably discharged members of our military complete a minimum of 20 years of service. Anyone who enlists or accepts a commission knows of that very simple, clear requirement, up-front. It was an honor and a duty for me to serve my country for a shorter period of time and, thankfully, I was not injured in connection with my service. However, I don’t feel as though my fellow taxpayers owe me anything more than their appreciation and respect. I work and pay my own bills, expecting every other able-bodied person in this country to do the same. I’ll depend on no one but myself to provide for my retirement, should God bless with me that added time on this planet.

        Members of Congress should be limited to no more than 3 terms, forcing would-be, career criminals/politicians to return to the over-regulated real world of working people that they took part in burdening. You are right in that they should receive no retirement package or special privileges. Remember this the next time you vote and do not vote for anyone who does not support congressional term limits.

        The President shouldn’t be “kicked out”; he should be impeached – the only proper course of action for handling someone in that position who has abused the public trust and that honorable office by aiding and abetting our nation’s enemies. If your current federal representative(s) do not support this notion, remember that when they come up for re-election.

        As for the mafia, they are all around us. Simply look to any form of organized labor. You should not look to them for any solution to any problem, though. They are the problem.

        • debbytennis

          I hope you are considering running for office as I love all of your ideas.

          • Desert Storm Vet

            Thank you, Debby. There are many good, truly conservative, smart and experienced candidates across the country who are much better qualified to hold public office than me. In addition to praying for our current leaders, the best thing I can do is to get to know conservative candidates and their positions well, then support them financially and by spreading the word about them to my friends, family, co-workers, customers and anyone else who might be truly concerned for the survival of our Constitution and the American way of life. I think most responsible, conservative people have taken the conservative majority for granted, as evidenced by November’s election outcome. Sure, there was an enormous amount of voter fraud involved in that election, but liberal activists have been busy networking, infiltrating our schools, our local & state governments and federal agencies, influencing all of those who support them through grassroots efforts for decades.

            I wasn’t always as conservatively minded as I have become through watching liberals repeatedly attempt to systematically destroy all of our founding fathers’ values over the last 30+ years. If either of my grandfathers were alive today to see what our society and government have devolved into, they would be sickened. If I were to run for office as a Democrat, my checkered past and regrettable mistakes wouldn’t be a problem, as we’ve seen with the pedestal so many idiots place the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Bill Clinton, his horrible, lying wife and many others upon. I’ve never stooped to their disgusting levels, but I respect someone who lives an honorable life and expect we’ll need that type of person or group of people to lead us out of the ungodly mess we’re in now.

            The 2014 mid-term elections are critical. Every person who loves this country should be focused like a laser beam on ensuring that conservatives retain control of the House and retake control of the Senate.

            http://www.policymic.com/articles/23623/2014-senate-elections-here-is-the-republican-roadmap-to-victory

            Special care should also be taken, in my opinion, to avoid diluted candidates, such as those who would be put in place by Karl Rove:

            http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2013/02/03/new-gop-group-aims-find-conservative-candidates-who-can-win-senate-races/w7NLNp7InAnB1AQXvBw4FI/story.html

            I’m not interested in preserving the Republican status quo or in re-electing supposedly conservative candidates who’ve shown no backbone or honor in compromising with idiots and traitors. I want men and women elected who’ll stand for fiscal sanity, family values and the Constitution, popularity and political career security be damned!

    • Charlie Ireland

      It seems to me that they should not have to put in 20 years when in congress you only need to fulfill a term or 2 to get full benefits and pension. Something needs to be done, priorities needs to be in place.

    • battaniya

      As an Naval veteran myself, I was given NO VA information upon my honorable discharge. As far as covering service related injuries, hogwash – I’ve been trying for two years now to get VA approval to treat a spinal injury received while serving my country. I can’t even get issued meds to cover the migraines I get now as a result of their botched initial treatment, which included putting me on crutches for two weeks – for a SPINAL injury they misdiagnosed. And still waiting. So don’t tell me he or anyone else only read part of the VA website, or that it’s the service persons fault that the military, our government, and VA are incompetent.

      • Lynne Allen

        TRUE.

      • Lynne Allen

        TRUE.

      • Kevin Gallagher

        I know what you are going through. It took me 3 1/2 years to get everything covered. Just dont quit trying, I would suggest getting your congressman involved too. I used Justin Amash’s office to pressure the VA for me and it worked great.

  • DreadPirateStarbucks

    Well so what? We have a welcome wagon website, through the govt, that shows immigrants how they can easily get on welfare when they come to this country. So this story is about a serviceman who had no idea he was eligible for a transitional healthcare plan that offers no benefits to his family. Still sounds like that service member is being failed by the system in several different ways, just saying.

    • spot_the_dog

      This story was based on a false claim: that the shooter could not get medical care after leaving the military. Look at some of the headlines: “Here is what he gets from his employer and a grateful nation: Nothing.” …. “Navy Seal who killed Osama bin Laden is leaving. He gets no pension, no health care” ….. Esquire claimed that the Navy told him, “Your coverage is over … Go fuck yourself”.

      Such seeming dishonesty wrecks the whole piece – which might have otherwise had some merit.

      • DreadPirateStarbucks

        I get what you’re explaining. I guess it is just irritating that the govt is giving all this welfare away, instructing people of “benefits” they are “entitled to”, in 15 different languages, but a dude in the military can’t get accurate info on benefits he actually earned as a member of the armed forces. Do you know what I mean? And yeah, I guess the Esquire article is sensationalizing (“the shooter”, etc) and bending facts, but I just don’t feel as outraged by all that as the ridiculousness of what I mentioned at the beginning of this mini rant.

        • spot_the_dog

          Yes, I think we are in complete agreement that whereas America owes a far greater debt to her honourable military vets than to many of the other groups the government currently chooses to pander to, there appear to be a lot more resources devoted to making sure those other groups are aware of all the benefits to which they’ve been deemed “entitled”.

          But there’s something seriously hinky about this story. And so even if the author had the best of intentions (and no, that’s not a given), I can’t see it ending up being especially helpful to either this vet or any other one. The whole narrative has now been tainted by dishonesty.

  • Michael Z

    More of the vicitm mentality at work, it runs deep.

  • Guest

    “The boldfaced sentence about the VA, however, does not appear in the Esquire article (at least not in the version that is online). Nor does the sentence about the program at MacDill Air Force Base.”

    But Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia!

    Why do they believe they can keep getting away with chit like that?

  • Holly Fragoso

    I do not like the insinuation that the “shooter” didn’t listen at his briefings….The writer just did not put the benefits in her article, you can clearly tell that by the revision!!

  • http://twitter.com/LilTooClinical Steve Bennett

    I’m a soldier currently serving the Reserves who is ineligible for a 20 year Active Duty pension until I serve a total of 15 more years on top of the 12 years I’ve already given the Reserves. 20 years in the Reserves is not the same as time served on Active as my active duty time spent on deployments only tallies to about 5 years. He served 16 years and that’s fantastic and I thank him for it but he is also expecting special treatment simply because he’s the ONE member of a TEAM that fired the fateful bullets but they accomplished the mission TOGETHER. If he wants his 20 year pension he needs to give 4 more years like every other servicemember at 16 years Active Federal Service. If he wants to forego that, he’s welcome to write a book and sell it to Hollywood, it’s not as if the world isn’t fiending for more info on the tale.

    • Thom*

      Simply?? You fuckin idiot. He and any one who has served in a combat zone should be able to retire after 1 year with full pay, health care with dental included. The politicians should get zilch for retirement. The two faced bastards are worst than the street gangs of Chicago. Where is the mafia when you need them?

    • Figanootz

      This man is 100% correct.

  • spot_the_dog

    OK, so they made a claim which was untrue, and then they apparently stealth-edited their article to cover it up. But as Hillary would point out, “WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?!” Stop facting these poor liberals. It’s mean.

  • Martin Stein

    C’mon, we’re talking Phil Bronstein here, the San Francisco Bay Area’s answer to Geraldo Rivera. Are you really that surprised, Michelle?

  • Richard

    there is no doubt in my mind that many service members are NOT being told what they qualify for when transitioning out of the military. This is a fact that I hear way too many times in our organization when service members ask for financial assistance.. That and the fact that benefits are NOT extended to their families in order to maintain what coverage they had when they were in the military prompting the stress that is created when they have to scramble to find health insurance much less having to worry about having to pay for it. These are combat veterans we are talking about here not politicians who receive every perk known to man when they “serve” the pubic without the worry of having to reconcile life and death every day they are in a combat zone. The fact is there is enough funding in the form of decreased levels of healthcare for politicians and others who receive the Cadillac version of that benefit that can be moved from the that budget to pay for the healthcare premiums that should be going to the combat veteran and his family as well as other benefits afforded to non-combat and non-military personnel…

    • lonestarlizard

      BS

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

      The information is out there, though. It is not as though it is secret knowledge. At some point, one does have to exercise a level of personal responsibility and tenacity, no?

  • Genness Milam Addenbrook

    My understanding is that he was separated before he could stay for his full 20 years & was not his choice. If that’s not correct can someone comment.

    • http://WestValleyGreenHomes.com/ Eric Johnson

      If he was selected to be the shooter, that means he was well respected by other Seals and their leadership. Being forced out a year later doesn’t add up. It would take a major screw up on his part to be denied reenlistment and there has been no mention of anything like that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dana.costello1 Dana Lukowski Costello

    So this hard working guy like many working Americans doesn’t know how to “work” the system to get all the freebies. He didn’t have time to figure the system out because he was working. It seems it is paying more to learn how to “work” the system than it is to actually work.

    • http://WestValleyGreenHomes.com/ Eric Johnson

      I’m wondering how a 16 year vet doesn’t know he gets 5 years medical thru VA and no medical for family. When I was in the USAF this was fairly well known even by the newer troops.

      • lonestarlizard

        Indeed.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

      Isn’t it your responsibility, as an employee, to arm yourself with information that your employer makes readily available?

    • lonestarlizard

      Those “freebies” you so ignorantly mention cost many of us 20+ years of our lives. You are welcome…

  • http://WestValleyGreenHomes.com/ Eric Johnson

    Why is MacDill AFB mentioned? Was shooter assigned to Special Operations Command? If yes, then why would he be on a Seal Team? Never mind in the important point position? Several things in this story don’t add up.

    • lonestarlizard

      Eric, SEALs are commonly seen around and attached to, on occasion, MacDill AFB. It is after all the JSOC. Surely you must understand that SEALs are special operations forces? Just because you are a member of a Seal Team does not mean you can’t be located at another military location.

  • Timothy Tritt

    He has various job-related injuries and issues – he should have some disability pension from the Service and VA benefits (at least for himself). They usually figure out some sort of percentage of your pay.

    To leave after 16 years seems odd to those on the outside, but if you are burned out, you are burned out.

  • lonestarlizard

    Why is anyone even buying this crap? No service member (and I mean none) that has served 16 years of active duty, doesn’t know about VA benefits. Hell, most of us knew about them after the first few years. The problematic question here is “Why did he separate from active duty after 16 years?”. That, of course, was his decision (one must assume) but surely he knew that serving another 36 months or so would have allowed him to transfer to the Fleet Reserve with Tricare medical (at cost) and 50% of his base pay. If he was tired of combat or stressed out, he could have applied for support duty. I don’t buy it. I would never even have considered bailing at the 16 year point. And, let’s not forget that if the VA adjudicates enough disability, he becomes eligible for all sorts of disability compensation (tax free) and other benefits. I admire and thank him for his service but I think he should have thought through the early separation from active duty.

    STCM(SS) USN, Ret.

    • Figanootz

      I’m with you. I think he bailed because he thought he could cash in on what he did. This administration provided a great example by making a movie of it.

  • David Cummings

    If you have not served in combat….you should just shut up

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

      The First Amendment is Jedi strong with this one…

  • disqus_aOQHvl3NS1

    Seriously, Michelle? I love your site, but it’s ok not to post if you don’t have something significant to say.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

      You don’t believe that misrepresentation and a lack of journalistic integrity are significant issues?

    • TocksNedlog

      They intentionally misrepresented his situation and then lied to cover for their misrepresentation. You don’t think this is significant?

    • spot_the_dog

      When the media pushes narratives based on untruths, then dishonestly try to cover up their errors once they’ve been pinged, that needs to be called out. For too long they’ve gotten away with it because no-one WAS calling them on it.

  • Claude Jones

    Renea, it is quite obvious that you know nothing about what you are spouting and are either not reading or not understanding what others are posting. Why don’t you stop typing and looking foolish.

    • Lynne Allen

      Floyd that is just wrong of you. I bet half the veterans out there have been screwed over more than once by the VA and its benefits.

    • Lynne Allen

      Floyd that is just wrong of you. I bet half the veterans out there have been screwed over more than once by the VA and its benefits.

  • JD Sparks

    Umm, I don’t know about all this but I know that Veterans get VA care. I have had it for a little less than 10 years now. And I only served 4 years, so it isn’t just for retirees. And I didn’t get it until I had been out for about 15 years.

  • http://www.facebook.com/thom.brown1 Thom Brown

    Thank you, Michelle. I love your work. You can’t keep the lying liars honest, but at least you can make sure that everyone else knows they are lying liars, and copying their screen shots keeps them from engaging in double speak and re-writing history. Keep up the good work. I’m going to buy something from one of your sponsors, or make a contribution, or something, to support you so that you continue to have the resources to be a loud voice against the bullcrap coming out of the left and MSM. I wish I as a Hindu God, so that I could give you 20 thumbs up, but being only human, all I’ve got are 2 thumbs, but they are both up for you and your work. Thank you for all you do.

  • Timewarped

    i have to wonder if the whole story isn’t made-up like we’ve repeatedly seen from left-wing liberal journalist over and over … even winning awards for their made-up stories and lies … all it is propaganda … why the hell would a Seal (especially this one) do this story in the first place with these people? For all I know whoever it was may have been an impostor having a good laugh on these journalist

  • Wes

    l did my turn in Korea in ’52 and got out and i don’t blame him for saying i’ve had enough…Four more years and no telling what he would have to go thru in that lenght of time.l realize the service has changed from when thay said go you went and no questions asked but don’t think that has changed that much…

  • TocksNedlog

    Ends justify the means.

  • Randy111

    Well, I gave up my esquie subscription after taking it 30 years, so this was just another MSM meda article to me–propaganda,
    I read the article on the internet yesterday, and one of the things which most struck me was the admission that the seals went there to kill Bin Laden not capture him. The story at the time was they wanted to take him alive but didn’t quite make it. This just confirms my belief they never wanted Bin Laden taken to trial, where he could talk, and remain a hero to millions–which I guess he still is, regrettably.
    As for the Seal himself, he comes of as patriotic, and a hero. But also, something about his actions remind me of a Mafia hit man. Sorry about that, but the truth is the truth. And it is the truth which will set us free. That’s why I fear the MSM as a threat greater than foreign terrorists.

  • spot_the_dog
    • grais

      Yes, it seems to be a thing.
      And I believe this is the crux of Twitchy’s posting on the issue of Bronstein’s bs.
      Somehow, all the responses are debating military benefits, and not the lying liars in the msm.
      I don’t get it.

      • Adam Baumb

        Typical liberal tactic. Serve up shit sandwiches, then spit it all over those that call them shit sandwiches. Never mind they served them in the first place.

    • Geoff

      Tier 1/SpecOp guys fighting a guerrilla war for special treatment cuz they’re special snowflakes…I guess you know the country is well and truly ate up when the SEALs got their hand out wanting freebies.

    • Geoff

      Tier 1/SpecOp guys fighting a guerrilla war for special treatment cuz they’re special snowflakes…I guess you know the country is well and truly ate up when the SEALs got their hand out wanting freebies.

  • C. Jimenez

    With the exception of Vietnam, our current war(s) have gone on for more than a decade now. Most men and women that enlisted in the Armed Forces after 9/11 have been in combat mode for more than 10 years and have been deployed and redeployed many times since. Unlike regular troops that spend most of their enlistment periods in support roles, combat troops bear the brunt and scars of the fighting. Special Operatives and infantrymen operate at 5000% more stress and danger than a guy sitting at a desk on a ship, or loading materiel on a C-5 in Germany. I’m not saying that those support jobs are not valuable and deserve our respect. The fact is that our combat troops have harder jobs in terms of daily risk to their lives.

    Certain jobs in the military should carry special benefits. The more stressful the job the more rewards it should have. Length of service should not be a factor. Length of time in combat should accrue certain benefits. If a soldier spends 3 years in combat, they should receive their pension fully; Unlike the guy/gal that sits at a desk in the Pentagon.

    In America, we pay our athelete’s hundreds of millions of dollars over a typical ten to fifteen year career. These atheletes show up at the arena at a certain time, give it their all for 2-3 hours and then go home in their maserati’s and lambo’s. Our combat troops stand and fight 24-7 for years at a time. If they are lucky enough to not get killed, they come home, with broken bodies and minds only to find that they have been used up in the gears of war and spit out.

    Now, we cannot bear the cost of giving ever single troop full benefits, so it make logical sense to base the system on time in service in a combat zone, and the harder and more dangerous the job the more it should be rewarded proprotionally.

    People are quick to blame the President for this, but it has been a problem for decades and Congress does little to help. Look at the Vietnam vets, Gulf War I vets and those that fought in conflicts around the world since.

    We can sit here and bitch about it all day, but action makes things happen. Just like those guys that pick up a rifle in defense of the American way, we as citizens should fight for them by lobbying Congress and the President to do something about it. All problems have a solution. It’s up to us as Citizens to decide what that solution should be. This is not a Democrat or Republican issue, it’s an American issue. Politics should be put aside and our Vets need to be cared for well after they have borne the scars of war.

  • Babylonandon

    The primary purpose of the Transition Assistance Program is to get veterans happily out the door before they get a chance to discover ANYTHING that might make them eligible for anything other than the very most basic of benefits (mostly just the GI bill education and home loan programs).

    Especially important is to make darn sure there is no way you can claim ANYTHING that might be called a disability benefit (injuries that aren’t readily apparent or that won’t start to wreck your life until you get older) and that you really are given no road map on how to get even help that you should get without going thru days of sitting in waiting rooms or getting eternal run-arounds on the phone from bureaucrats.
    .

    • Geoff

      GI Bill and home loans are “basic” benefits? I’ve got 2 college degrees courtesy of the GI Bill, and I’m typing this sitting in my home purchased with a VA loan.

      TAP has zip to do with claiming disability, other than briefing you on how to contact the VA.

      And yes, you can claim disabilities after the fact…if you can document them. Up to you to keep a copy of your medical records and any documentation that might help a future claim.

      Numerous organizations out there to assist you with dealing with the bureaucrats, VFW, AMVETS, DAV for example. All just happier than pigs in a wallow to assist you. Your county should have a Veterans rep. Your Congressman and Senator both have a Veterans Rep. who will likewise be thrilled to assist a fellow Veteran. Ditto the unemployment office. I have not doubt there are more…all there to assist Veterans.

  • $1375156

    he probably separated to get a seven figure book deal. He has earned every penny. But these SEALs are not stupid. I doubt he would separate if it put his family in a bad spot.

  • Martha Washington

    I Wish someone would FORCE the Air Force 2 take care of ALL their injured.
    My husband was INJURED on ACTIVE DUTY 2-2010. He was SUPPOSEDLY placed on incapacitation pay,which we HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED 2years later/-
    2 FULL YEARS after his injury&we are waiting for the FINANCE OFFICE 2 ”STRAIGHTEN IT OUT” his PAY with the ”right codes.”
    He does receive medical treatment,but often times he misses appointments that are in the city because it costs us 25$ round trip 4 each VA APPOINTMENT-
    With NO MONEY coming into our EMPTY BANK ACCOUNT we can’t waste $ on gas.
    The MILITARY FINANCE OFFICERS have NOT worked out his PAYMENT ISSUES&they treat us like we bothering them when we ask 4 UPDATES.

    We can’t buy the kid shoes or pants that they need without $. We have NOT PURCHASED gifts for anyone or each other during HOLIDAYS&Birthdays that keep passing as we WAIT-

    We haven’t gone out 2 eat,had a vacation or gone to the movies since his injury FEBRUARY 2010-OUR LIVES are oh PAUSE-

    We have had 2 hold onto every penny 4 things like toilet paper&toothpaste.
    As of RIGHT now the Air Force has withheld his End Cap pay for 22months-
    We have only received payment for the month of NOVEMBER 2012,which we owed 2 our PARENTS who have HELPED US through this OPPRESSING ORDEAL-
    We have SURVIVED on FOODSTAMPS&Family assistance &what was our NEST EGG which is completely gone now-(THANK GOD WE HAD 1)
    Since his injury he has been in constant pain&unable 2 work,Hell he can’t even sit down for 15minutes without being in excruciating PAIN.
    He is extremely depressed-WE BOTH are.
    I WONDER how Finance Officer Cummings would survive without a paycheck for TWO LONG DEPRESSING YEARS?

    SHAME on the AIR FORCE for
    TREATING OUR MILITARY HEROES&DEFENDERS of FREEDOM this POORLY-IT IS WRONG.

    THIS FINANCE BS is a huge factor concerning suicides in the MILITARY-
    My husband CAN NOT SUPPORT his family&he has LITTLE HELP from Uncle SAM.
    He was willing 2 put his life on the line, in a country we are NOT EVEN IN A DECLARED war with&then BAM,he was injured&now is USELESS to the AIR FORCE.
    I can’t fight the tears even now when WRITING OUR SORRY SET of circumstances-
    We are LITERALLY BEGGING FINANCE 2 straighten out his pay issues daily-THROUGH phone calls,emails we have been 2 the base in person COUNTLESS TIMES- over the last 2 years-&we are BRUSHED OFF EVERY TIME.
    NO MONEY COMING in&iou notes going out has created a SERIOUS DEPRESSION that touches our entire family. We are at our witts END&we don’t know what to do.
    We WROTE 2 OUR CONGRESSMEN&Senator,but have heard NOTHING.
    THIS is a true story&sadly we are NOT the ONLY MILITARY FAMILY living on FOODSTAMPS&BEGGING for HELP-

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004785969670 Hal Burton

      Welcome to 6 years of democrat sabotaging of the once robust economy. It’ll get much worse.
      Next time you see a democrat, thank them.

  • Cecil

    As a 30 year veteran I can inform you that there is not free medical care for retired service members. You can enrolled in TRICARE Prime and pay for it. Or you can select Standard and pay 20 percent of the remaining cost that the military insurance does not pay. Veterans with service connected disabilities can go to the VA, but this does not cover your family. When you reach the age of 65. Medicare becomes your primary insurance. TRICARE for Life, if it is a covered service, pays the remaining 20 percent. This also covers your family members who are age eligible.
    The catch is that the government added that you must enroll in Medicare Part B. $200 a month for member and wife, to be eligible for TRICARE for Life. That is $2400.00 a year, a 30 year veteran must pay, although I was promised free medical for life when I enlisted.
    You also pay a copay for all medications. I hope this helps. I did not cover all, because there are just too many different entry dates, service times, etc.
    God Bless our military. They kept their end of the agreement; however our government and congress did not. Obama has not assisted the military as promise. In fact, I am paying more under Obama’s administration. Any liberals out there that object, research before you make your claim. I know, I pay.

    • Geoff

      Any Veteran can go to the VA for treatment. Non-retirees/non-service connected are at the bottom of the priority list and get seen on as-possible basis…and I’ve never seen a Vet get turned away.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1208422359 Bonita Ledzius

    When my husband retired from the Navy, I can tell you a great deal of what the Navy ou told him through his transition turned out to be wrong. He was told he would get disability since the Navy Hospital had done an exam and labeled him as disabled. But then when we got to our new home and he went to the V.A. to finish his last steps for disability, they said he wasn’t disabled enough after they decided he needed to have another exam by V.A. doctors that they assigned. My husband has terrible hearing from the engines on the ships, and damage to his back and knees, along with arthritis that has set into those injuries. His last 2 years of service he was given a pass from P.T. because of these problems and his difficulty with much of what they did in P.T. Yet the V.A. said it wasn’t enough for disability. If they would do this to my husband who served in 2 wars, and a total of 22 years, it doesn’t surprise me that this young man is having problems with getting benefits now. Heck, it took 20 years for my brother who served in Vietnam and was a victim of Agent Orange to get his benefits and that was only after one of my sisters went in and raised Hell to get it done. I am the daughter, wife, stepmom, and sister of many who have served this country just to be treated like nothing once they retired or left the service. Now with Obama it is only getting worse for our soldiers and sailors.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1557296749 Sheri Rogers

    Pànts on fire. None of that article is true…never trust what you read about NAVY SEALs

  • http://youtu.be/SjUPb4J_MGo world’s greatest orator

    Nobody who’s straight reads that magazine anyway

    • BeeKaaay

      Nobody who’s got a working brain reads that magazine anyway

      FIFY :)

    • BeeKaaay

      Nobody who’s got a working brain reads that magazine anyway

      FIFY :)

  • GTFOBigGovt

    Ok so to recap, the shooter, an elite Navy Seal, after 16 years of service was skilled enough to execute this mission but a complete dimwit when it comes to figuring out his military benefits. Apparently this benefits mission requires skillz along the lines of a James Bond, not your average Seal schlep.

    And Esquire just happened to leave out the part about the benefits he is entitled to. Amirite?

    Oh, and Bronstein said on Hannity something to the effect that he was “bored”. #notabookdeal

  • BeeKaaay

    Leftwingwackos lie. People die.

    • Ronald

      Go outside and get some fresh air. It will do you some good.

      • BeeKaaay

        I see, so you are saying that leftwingwackos lying is a good thing.

        Good to see your lack of conscience.

        • Ronald

          Lame. You said those things. Not me. Putting words in someone’s mouth is unethical and wrong. If you had a moral compass you would know that. You promote hate, name calling and demonization all because someone disagrees with you. That shows your lack of conscience. Maybe you need more than some fresh air. You need an exorcism.

          • BeeKaaay

            Then actually attack my point instead of me.

            You refuse to attack my statement “Leftwingwackos lie. People die.” because it is the truth.

            You attack me, which proves that you have zero desire to refute what I said.

            Therefore, you approve of leftwingwackos lying and you think that leftwingwackos lying is a good thing.

            Logic is a nice thing. Leftwingwackoism and logic had a nasty divorce years ago. And the kids are suffering.

    • Ronald

      Go outside and get some fresh air. It will do you some good.

  • BeeKaaay

    Leftwingwackos lie. People die.

  • mauser98

    Bin Laden bin dead since 2001

    “Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html#ixzz2L1XhXhtD