Unreal: WH justifies drone strikes on citizens, but not waterboarding; Tries to distance itself from Dept. of Justice it runs

Wait, what? A recently discovered confidential Department of Justice memo revealed that the Obama administration has a pretty lenient policy on when drone strikes can be launched.

The government does not need evidence that a specific attack is imminent, the newly disclosed Justice Department white paper says, only that the targeted suspect is involved in ongoing plotting against the United States.

“The threat posed by al-Qaida and its associated forces demands a broader concept of imminence in judging when a person continually planning terror attacks presents an imminent threat,” the document says.


But, hey, out of their hands? There’s more, too. The White House also defended the use of drone strikes to kill citizens, but not the use of waterboarding.





Citizens also react to the absurdity of the White House trying to distance itself from the Department of Justice that it runs.









CBS’s Mark Knoller points out a little something else.



He’s not kidding:

NBC drone memo

And Twitter user ExJon sums it up.


  • Maxx

    Drone, meet Second Amendment. Second Amendment, meet drone.

    • BlueGood

      “Mr. President, DROP THE DRONE and PUT YOUR HANDS UP”!

      “Mr. Holder PLEASE, step away from the DRONE”!

      Even God can’t get through to these idiots…..

      • rogueco

        The Preezy wouldn’t pass a background check to purchase a gun, let alone a drone.

        • Calcat36

          How do we know preezie doesn’t operate them now while h is under the influence of cocaine, weed, or any other drug that brutha did?

    • George Washington Mclintock

      YOu said it, friend. Sounds like someone needs to get cracking on 3-D printed stinger missiles.

  • Steve_J

    Myabe distancing itself from the DOJ finding but will use it if the situation arises.

  • susan schneider

    wow , wow , all I can say is wow…….

    • http://www.facebook.com/noah.lee3 Noah Lee

      water boarding is still bad folks. a terrorist might get wet!! oh my! can’t have that.

      • Calcat36

        As long as we respect their religious dietary demands, it is all good. I say give ali muhammad jerkoffbaba a ham sandwich and a smile. Let the bastards starve themselves to death, although the queeran allows for the rules to be broken to kill infidels….

  • Janice

    Why then couldn’t they just deploy a drone on Benghazi

    • Calcat36

      The former SEALs lazed the target, so they THOUGHT drones/air support would be on the way…

      Besides, American farmers are a bigger threat than ‘slammik terrorists, don’t cha know…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Travis-Busbar/1500753741 Travis Busbar

    BTW, I have a few drone strike addresses I’d like to submit…

  • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

    Any questions of administration hypocrisy aside, I’ve no problem with a drone strike to take out an enemy combatant abroad, no matter what his technical citizenship might be. If you’re plotting to rain death down on the US, you are an enemy soldier and I don’t care what blows you to bits, a drone or grenade or 10 round burst. Collateral damage? Sorry civilians, but don’t shelter terrorists. Just pretend there’s a big red bullseye on their head.

    Cuz there is.

    • http://twitter.com/d_hershberger Doug Hershberger

      The other issue is that he can do it, and can’t be held accountable. He can kill someone for “terrorism” and doesn’t have anyone to answer to about it.

      • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

        Hmm, OK, granted, but that’s a slightly different issue and goes beyond the scope of what I was saying.

        • Calcat36

          The problem Ice, is that the drones are now being deployed to target FARMERS here on American soil. Screw terrorists, especially abroad, but a strike in the USA… I do not trust the government make that call. Ruby Ridge was a farce. Randy Weaver was EXONERATED after the government tried to force the media to paint him as a racist gun runner. He lost his family FOR NOTHING. And my USMC Commanding Officer LtCol Degan was the US Marshall that was killed. He deserved it for following illegal orders. Horiuchi should be in jail as well.

          If you think king soetoro will not drone you, you are mistaken.

        • almarquardt

          It also eliminated due-process and the main tenant of our judicial system: innocent until proven guilty. Remember, we’re talking about killing American citizens here where little or no evidence is required.

  • http://www.thepoliticalchef.com thepoliticalchef

    Reblogged this on Thepoliticalchef's Blog and commented:
    Mark Knoller notes that NBC is the only news outlet who is reporting or covering this…and one city has already outlawed drone strikes…just a thought…how does a town protect itself/its citizens from a drone strike? Just askin…

  • Love of Country

    For eight years drones and GITMO were the biggest terror recruiting tools the world had ever seen. Dissent was the highest form of patriotism and raising the debt ceiling was the most unpatriotic deed in Washington.

    Fast forward to the present …. how many of these unvarnished principles are the Left still adamently standing by today and is it fair to say everything Democrats have said or done while in office this time around is 180 degrees in opposition from every complaint they ever had during the Bush Administration and 180 degrees from all of Dinglebarry’s most rigorous and ardent campaign promises?

    God, I hate liars and fascism ….. it’s just soooo ‘Cuba meets North Korea’ish’ …. don’t ya think?

    Abraham Lincoln was “The Great Emancipator”, Ronald Reagan was “The Great Communicator”, and Barack Owebama is “The Great Divider”.


  • http://twitter.com/d_hershberger Doug Hershberger

    I demand #dronecontrol laws NOW!

    • Calcat36

      Amen, those military style fully automated assault drones have NO PLACE in society! I mean who really needs a drone or 10 to hunt a deer? The Founding Fathers certainly NEVER meant for drones to exist! Can anyone tell me why we NEED assault drones in America? Let’s not allow drones to kill children in schools!

  • http://twitter.com/Camondrak Camondrak

    So, now we’re killing American citizens overseas and letting illegal aliens stay en mass? Seriously?

  • caritas7s

    Imagine Ruby Ridge if drones had been in existence at that time. Who would have been left to tell the story? Janet Reno must be gnashing her teeth, just thinking about what she could have done with drones!

    • Calcat36

      Nah, she was very happy with incompetent tank drivers and stupid cops at Waco. “BURN KIDS! BURN!”

      • caritas7s

        I thought about Waco, but, she enjoyed it so much, droning them might have been a buzz-kill.

  • rogueco

    calling Code Pink……? ACLU??

    • Sons Thunder

      Your argument would be much stronger if it wasn’t so easily refuted.

      • rogueco

        Sure, Sons, these organizations will vilify the pentagon, CIA, and other various agencies for their use of drones, but they remain eerily silent when it comes to any criticism of the Commander in Chief. Code Pink in particular seems to avoid any serious criticism of Obama and this administration.

        I remember Code Pink protesting Bush directly at every gathering, calling him a murderer, war criminal, etc. Funny how Code Pink doesn’t target their Democratic President the same way. They post their views online that they are against Obama’s drone wars, but you never see protests involving anything Anti-Obama. No Obama signs, no Obama speeches – it’s all generic “Stop the killer drones” B.S.

        • Sons Thunder

          I almost put a disclaimer in there because Code Pink and ACLU are very distinct groups. To my mind, Code Pink is very similar to PETA; they are good at getting media attention but are inconsistent and end up hurting the causes they claim to be supporting.

          However, your argument was that these groups were silent on the issue of drones and that was demonstrably false. But, once again, I completely agree with you re: Code Pink’s inconsistency re: Bush and Obama. So, I think you have a point in saying their anti-drone stance on their website constitutes ‘crickets’.

          The ACLU, on the other hand, operates very differently from Code Pink and their actions and advocacy on this issue have been far from hypocritical. In fact, they have been working on the issue long before this issue gained much media (old or new) attention. They have been consistent and have been doing some good work and I think it was unfair of you to claim ‘crickets’ when they have been at the forefront in challenging the administration’s use of drones to kill American citizens.

  • stillinthe60s

    Fig leaf for killing Americans fast and spurious.

  • Canadian in USA

    Can’t stand listening to the President’s reasoning behind this…all he’ll do is drone on. BA DUM TSS! THANK YOU! I’M HERE ALL WEEK!

  • https://twitter.com/tweetyuo Tangchung

    Seems drones are needed to follow Congressmen to puerto rico.

  • http://www.TakeOurMediaBack.COM/ Take Our Media Back

    So, since we know Obama has been continuously planning and supplying arms, since 2009, to al-Qaida affiliates in Egypt, Libya, Syria, Algeria, Mali, etc. …does this mean Obama can legally target the White House?

  • http://resministries.org/ Arthur E Jackson

    And you want me to turn over my what? They must be a special kinda stupid

  • Rico Mapster

    So let me get this straight…Ali Hassan Al Whatever gets Mirandized, and Joe and Tom can get a Hellfire missile? And these morons want me to give up my guns?

  • Frank Smiles

    Apparently we couldn’t have this policy for Chris Stevens’ benefit.

  • Red Fred

    I don’t agree with the political views of many Americans, and yet I would not want them fired upon. Geez. People better step up and stop ignoring this before it’s too late.

  • Guest

    But for the connivance of the American media,
    obama and his cronies would have been run out of town long ago.
    Compared to obama, Goebbels was an amateur.

  • Joel A. Edge

    Someone should start a petition to investigate where all the antiwar protesters have gone. Locked in a closet at the DNC?

  • BeeKaaay

    Quick, blame Bush! :) Obama won’t own anything.

  • Axelgreaser

    ONCE THIS PRESIDENT IS GIVEN POWER OF SECRETIVE AIR ANNIHILATION OF EVEN ONE CITIZEN…what then? Because looking at the track record of this administration and it’s view of ‘transparency’, we would would most certainly never be given access to the records any stealthy murders, no matter how long we demaned them. We would know only what Jay ‘Corny’ was instructed to tell us: “I’ll have to look into that, but you do realize your assumption is ridicules, do you not?” So rather than asking ‘what then’, better to ask ‘what next’, because this President now has that power and you probably didn’t even know. WHY is the decision to used anything as catastrophic as ‘laser murder’ left in the hads of any President, much less one who openly ‘disregards Congress’ and the Constitutionally protected governing process including waging war and actions against the citizenry? This should NEVER be extened to the Presidency and especially not this one. If anything, four years of this President should have resulted in the symstematic reduction of Presidential power. We now, through ‘Obama-Roberts Care’ have re-instituted ‘taxation without representation’ via an unread, undebated bill that we NEVER given the proper, timely scrutiny of the ‘people.’ And we have now afforded this dictatorial, imperious man power of life and death, again, without scrutiny or debate, to one man! This President is a picture postcared of why the forefathers wisely implemented so many checks and balances into our system. Whether the misuse of drones or any other technology is set in motion by this President, or another, it should be stopped right now while we are at the very cusp of a dictatorship in the United States where anyone in their right mind would stare you down at the mere suggestion and say: “Here? Are you mad?” . Because aren’t we alrady living within a ‘silent coup?’ Why are the words ‘coup’ and ‘dictator’ not being used? Especially by our ‘press?’ Why is questoning the motives of this administration ‘tabu?’ And why do those who do get singled out and bullied? Moreover, how is it that this President managed to be elected in the first place, based on his ‘on the well documented record of his ideology’s’ and hsi scandalous ‘associates’, not to mention, illogically, elected twice!? . And why is President Barack Hussein Obama STILL unvetted by our MIA, complicent ‘press?’

    When there is no longer press, it is ‘a coup’