That’ll leave a mark: Glenn Beck calls Ron Paul ‘newest member of the Westboro Baptist Church’

Tell us what you really think, Glenn.

Glenn Beck wasn’t the only one making that comparison after Ron Paul launched a repulsive Twitter attack on murdered American hero Chris Kyle.

At least one Westboro cretin is on Team Paul.

Enough said:

Blogger Aaron Walker has more:

Related:

Disgusting: Ron Paul attacks murder victim, war hero Chris Kyle; Update: It wasn’t a staffer

Yes, Ron Paul, some veterans with PTSD go to the gun range for therapy

Medal of Honor recipient Dakota Meyer to Ron Paul: ‘Have you lost your mind?’

Ghoulish Ron Paul doubles down on Chris Kyle, invokes Jesus

  • http://twitter.com/who_me_too RadicalRebelWhoMeToo

    Put a fork in him folks. He’s done.

  • bonnieblue2A

    Disgusting comment by Glenn Beck. Much worse than anything Ron Paul tweeted. Bad form Glenn, really bad form. I’m sorry now that I donated to help Kyle’s family via Mercury One.

    Donate via thise links instead:
    http://redcirclefoundation.org/
    http://fitcocares.org/

    • $1014973

      By disgusting, do you mean 100% factual about what a creep Ron Paul is and how big of a clown show his supporters are?

    • TocksNedlog

      You’re “sorry” that you donated to help Kyle’s family?

      • bonnieblue2A

        Complete lack of reading comprehension you freakin’ idiot! I’m sorry I used Glenn Beck’s charitable organization. Got it? Was it really difficult to read the entire post and follow the links I provided to help Chris Kyle and Chat Littlefield’s familes? Really?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

          Since the donations go to the Kyle family (100 percent) why would you tear down the organization because your feelings are hurt? Is there no room for dissent? These charities all donate to the same family, so what difference does it really make which one people choose, so long as they have a reputations and low/no administrative costs?

        • TocksNedlog

          I understood what you wrote. My point is that the donation is the ONLY important thing here.
          Plus, you’re wrong. Beck’s comment wasn’t disgusting.

        • Calcat36

          Seems like many people have a comprehension problem with you. You know what they say bonnie, when everyone is laughing at you, it is because you are a joke…

          Take your wisdom over to the paulbot sites.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

      Why is this such an off base comment? His original and subsequent tweets show a man who using death to promote his agenda. In that way, Paul and WBO/Code Pink are very similar. Mercury One, for what it is worth, has an excellent history of being good stewards of donated monies. I fail to see why you would be “sorry” for supporting the Kyle family through them.

    • keithh81

      Bonnie must be a Paulbot to even think what Glenn said was any worse. Or she is one of those Westboro loonies. Facts hurt, lost all respect I had for Ron Paul after those comments. Refused to believe the truth about him but obviously with his retirement he is letting the truth out can care less anymore. Paul always was a racist look up his letters he approved decades ago with his signature on them, against Isreal and now the truth comes out on his stance of our men and women who sacrifice their lives.

      • bonnieblue2A

        My record as to my great disappointment and disagreement with Ron Paul’s original tweet are quite clear as I have posted it several times.

        However, those of you who are all about personal attacks really don’t care for those capable of independent thinking do you? No, you are all about gobbling up the chum thrown by talking heads that you attack, name call, and make false accusations against those who dare suggest the high road is more appropriate.

        If you want to honor the Kyle and Littlefield families you don’t do that via personal attacks on others but by actually doing something tangable.

        http://redcirclefoundation.org/
        http://fitcocares.org/

        • Garth Haycock

          Personal attacks? Like calling TocksNedLog a freakin’ idiot?

        • keithh81

          Being an idiot is independent thinking now? WOW. Bonnie is obviously a liberal. Only a liberal thinking stupidity is independent thinking. It is always their first retort trying to make themselves look better than the rest. We are just saying how it is. I am sorry that offends the touchy feely liberal in you, that thinks just ignore the problems and the problems will fix itself. We are calling it how it is, you are trying to infringe on others telling it how it is.

          • Calcat36

            bonnie is a community agitator.

        • Sara Nichols

          You’re the one who’s doing the personal attacks, Bonnie.

        • keithh81

          No we are just pointing out a fact. Personal attacks is an excuse you pull to justify your BS. Fact is Westboro church pulls this BS and RON Paul had already came come and furthered his claims. This is exactly what we are comparing him to Westboro. Even Westboro church idiots have come to his defense.

      • Sara Nichols

        Straight up.

    • Sara Nichols

      Hey, Bonnie, you are a fool and a hater. My name is Sara that has the username of LovesMeSomeGlennBeck on The Blaze. Glenn called out Ron Paul on his tweet today and if I had the money to help Chris Kyle’s family, I will go with Glenn’s charity not the other two. Ron Paul is a crazy man and he was wrong for attacking Chris Kyle and you don’t understand that Ron Paul is wrong on foreign policy and he is a moron. Glenn was right about Ron Paul’s tweet. Hate on me for my opinion but you are a Ron Paul supporter who has turd for brains, so get lost, hater.

  • TocksNedlog

    I don’t want to say that the WBC types is ignorant, but
    #GodGaveBeckAnAudiance . . . “Audiance”?
    Hey, God gave YOU the ability to spell-check.

    • b_truit

      “Are”… But I get your point. Her mistake is more egregious.

      • TocksNedlog

        “is” next to “ignorant” was intentional.
        It’s like when Homer Simpson said, “I’m a genius! Or are I?”

        • b_truit

          Lol ok. I wasn’t being sarcastic in my post and I missed your sarcasm.

  • keithh81

    Ghoulish Ron Paul doubles down on Chris Kyle, invokes Jesus
    http://twitchy.com/2013/02/04/ghoulish-ron-paul-doubles-down-on-chris-kyle-invokes-jesus/

  • JannyMae

    Obviously, he’s been holding back all these years, while he was still in The House of Representatives and aspiring to be president. Now, it’s “no holds barred,” and we’re going to see more of this. He doubled down on his facebook page. Senile POS should shut up, but he won’t.

    • http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/ keyboard jockey

      Ron Paul, must really care about his son’s political future huh?

    • Evan Rogers

      Man, Democrats are pro-war, and conservatives are anti-Jesus.

      Ron Paul quotes Jesus and conservatives shit themselves in anger

      • Ken Alan Draper

        maybe you should learn the english language, To live by the sword, means that violence is the end all & be all of your character, that you can concieve any other way of living. ti claim that Chris Kyle lives by the sword is Hateful, disgusting, slander against a man who was trying to help his brothers in arms heal.

      • JannyMae

        Read your bible, for greater understanding. Ron Paul quotes Jesus out of context, and bastardizes what he says. “Turn the other cheek” doesn’t apply when your enemy has declared war on you and has vowed to kill you and destroy your way of life. That’s what Ron Paul doesn’t GET, and that’s what made him so dangerous as a potential POTUS. He wouldn’t DEFEND this country. He ignores the part of the constitution that says “provide for the common defense.” Non-violence doesn’t apply when it comes to defending your country against outside enemies.

        • Thomas Clayton Thomas

          Oh but! Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

          Big deal. You can take nearly any quote from the Bible and I can find another that directly contradicts it. It’s not hard. Why you people believe in a book so rife with contradiction is beyond me. Perhaps it is so you can say anything in any context and have support from this supposed book of truth.

          • JannyMae

            No. Sorry. You haven’t read your bible. There are no contradictions in it, when you take it as a whole. You are the one taking things out of context to “prove” exactly NOTHING. Run along, nonbeliever.

          • Thomas Clayton Thomas

            No contradictions? Hmmmm.. I do believe there at least three different versions of Jesus last words. How about “Thou shall not kill” and “Judge not lest ye be judged” yet it instructs that people be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In addition to these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples of God’s irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons that defy any rational explanation such as killing children who make fun of bald people, and the killing of a man who tried to keep the ark of God from falling during transport. There are also countless examples of mass murders commanded by God, including the murder of women, infants, and children. More you ask?

            PSA 92:12: “The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree.”
            ISA 57:1: “The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart.”

            ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
            DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

            EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
            ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

            I could go on like this all day. You know it. You claim the atheist is arrogant for not accepting that there is a higher power. Sigh. It is you that is arrogant for believing that out of the 100 or so religions on the planet, you picked the right one! Believe whatever asinine crap you like. Doesn’t change the facts.

  • Dan Thorpe

    Let’s take Glenn Beck’s comments in context here is the excerpt from his radio show this morning

    http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=25586321&topic_id=&tcid=vpp_copy_25586321&v=3

  • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones

    Glenn Beck was happy when 77 people got massacred in Norway, I love the fake outrage, let’s be honest conservatives only care about conservatives and liberals only care about Liberals

    • wwbdinct

      How so? Please provide the info that Glenn Beck was happy that 77 people were murdered in Norway. I find that truly hard to believe.

    • journogal

      Do you have any proof, such as links or articles that either is saying this or being quoted as saying much, that you could provide. Or are you just saying this because it’s what you believe and you hate Glenn Bech because your “betters” told you to do so.

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      That is the most ignorant thing…..actually I’ve heard more ignorant things from your kind. Maybe do a little research before you say stupid things, just a suggestion.

      • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones

        Your kind? Yeah

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          Good advice one way or another.

    • keithh81

      http://www.dailypaul.com/271942/video-newton-truthers-not-happy-with-glenn-beck This is what seperates Glenn Beck from Alex Jones. Jones is a nutjob thinking everything is a conspiracy. Glenn Beck actually exposes the nut jobs.

    • keithh81

      http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2011/07/24/norway-youth-camp-had-a-boycott-israel-rally/ there are other links but yes this camp was a hitler style youth camp and once you study what the camp was promoting, hate on Israel and America, and promoting Socialist/Marxist power, Glenn Beck was right. A little less media matters and leftist hate mongrels and little more truth.

      By the way, no link I could find shows Beck was happy about the 77 killed, but was more telling what the type of youth camp it was. I know liberals hate the truth but we do live in the real world that is surrounded by reality even though liberals try to avoid reality like the plague.

    • TocksNedlog

      Lying appears to make YOU happy.

  • Rob Ramcharan

    Maybe Mr. Paul should talk to his primary care physician about going on Arricept.

    • Calcat36

      Too bad Kevorkian is dead…

  • Right Wired

    I’ll see your craziness, and raise you unbridled insanity! Are these two guys democratic plants?

  • http://twitter.com/KALKAM71 KALKAM

    This is the crap the progressives try to to attach to us….

    Wonder why MSNBC, CNN, Bill Maher, etc gave him attention? This is why…

  • Bob Khan

    My opinions on both Ron Paul and Glenn Beck are unimportant, however the following needs to be stated.

    Libertarians and Republicans better learn to agree to disagree really quick, or we are never going to win against our common enemy.

    • $1014973

      if getting along with libertarians means getting along with the idiots who support ron paul, I’ll take the election loss each and every time. He and his ilk make me sick.

      • ceemack

        Really? How sick did you feel when you found we’d have four more years of Obama?

        • John (it true me am)

          So what you’re saying is compromise on your most basic principals(NOT insulting a fallen hero who died trying to help a sick man) in order to get elected. If that’s what it takes, the American experiment is already over, and there’d be no victory in winning an election.

          • $1014973

            True. Paul’s supporters make my skin crawl. I wouldn’t have anything to do with them under any circumstances.

          • Lisa Farkass

            I am so glad to hear I make your skin crawl. Wow. FU buddy!

          • $1014973

            You’re welcome.

          • Calcat36

            Farkass? That is funny in a paulistinian kinda way. Skin crawler! You should be a Clinton supporter!

        • daeghrefn

          Why would you feel sick? It was clear we were going to get 4 more years of Obama the moment Romney clinched the nomination.

        • $1014973

          Better than I would have felt if Ron Paul had been elected.

          • Calcat36

            Yes, obama or paul… I’ll take obama…

        • Calcat36

          It was inevitable when Mitt-stake, who is NO CONSERVATIVE screwed conservatives to get the nomination and then pussy-footed around Soetoro. I voted for Netanyahu. Happily.

        • bluewaternavy

          Hey, a libertarian in the MT senate race gave the victory to the Dems, how does that make you feel?

      • Evan Rogers

        Wow, such idiocy coming from someone with the name “SicSemperTyrannis”.

      • Lisa Farkass

        His ilk? What ilk are you, loser? :)

        • $1014973

          I’m not a Ron Paul supporter and that’s good enough for me. To think you clowns still come to his defense after his latest idiocy tells me all I ever needed to know about you idiots. Run along now and blame America for something.

          • bluewaternavy

            Ron Paul blamed us for 9/11, FCS!

          • Calcat36

            What hasn’t the certified kook blamed us for? And he wonders why America hates his crazy, worthless little wrinkled existence! Ronnie blames us for stealing the Mayflower and illegally invading this continent! We should have stayed subjects of the crown, then no one would hate us, and he never would have been drafted into that illegal war!

            His son is doomed to be the same. STOP randy NOW!

        • Calcat36

          Her name is Farkass…

      • Ken Alan Draper

        yeah, why is it that both the establishment republicans & the Libertarians always say we have to choose between the giant douche & the turd sandwich? how about running an actual human being for office? someone who actually has a soul.

    • http://www.facebook.com/richard.diggins.98 Richard Diggins

      IMHO finding some common ground is quite important, not only in your party but also with your Democrats. Iran and North Korea are working towards nuclear capability. Factor in the number of nations who resent your past and current meddling in their affairs – Pakistan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Cuba, many in South/Central America, virtually everyone in the middle-east, Soviet and Balkan states), to name a few- and this leads me to believe a real collection of united states is vital against external threats be they military, terrorist or economic. Or you could continue to play “Hatfields and McCoys”.

    • WisconsinPatriot

      When libertarians can think about an actual foreign policy that doesn’t include hiding in the motherland….exclusively! And when they can abandon their love of judicial activism, then we can talk. I lean libertarian in many things, but those two issues are real problems for me.

      • Stephen Welch

        I think you misunderstand the libertarian position on war. It’s not that we want to hide in America, it’s that we are completely broke, and we have military bases all over the world in places that are unnecessary. Why Germany, why France, why Japan.? They can protect themselves. We don’t need to be intervening in other countries affairs, without a formal declaration of war and wasting money that we do not have. Not every dollar that is spent on military spending is sacred, just like saying we shouldn’t be involved in a war doesn’t mean that we hate the military and hate veterans.

        • Calcat36

          The fact that you admit to not understanding why we have bases around the globe shows your ignorance. You just hate the military. Period. Why do you not complain about wasting money on welfare and entitlements? We can cut a whole lot of waste here in the US but you paulbots don’t care about that. You hate the military. Wake up. The world depends on our strength and counts on our support. As Japan did after their tsunami. Should we have abandoned them?

      • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

        If you lean libertarian in everything except foreign policy and abortion then you ARE conservative.

    • Calcat36

      Libertarians NEED to get out of the republican party and stand on their own crazy ideas instead of hijacking and infecting the conservative reputation. Go smoke some weed. You will feel better.

      • Thomas Clayton Thomas

        Yeah your wonderful reputation with candidates like Newt Gingrich, Todd Akin, and Richard Mourdock. Hahahahaha! Why a woman would ever vote for one of you guys is beyond me. Your reputation, like it or not, is far worse without us. Michelle Bachmann? She hasn’t read the Constitution, but it’s not her fault. She can’t read. Rick Perry? I can think of at least three things wrong with that guy, but I forget the third. Santorum? He thinks dinosaurs were put here by God to test our faith! This is the face of the Republican Party. Get used to losing.

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          Yes, you believe every untrue piece of liberal rhetoric and you wonder why conservatives have no use for libertarians. You are just as nutty as any liberal.

          • Thomas Clayton Thomas

            Oh, is it untrue the Gingrich went after Clinton for adultery while was doing the same thing himself? Did he not divorce one of his wives on her deathbed? Is it untrue that both Akin and Mourdock made asinine comments about rape that cost them their elections? Michelle Bachmann and Rick Perry are morons, maybe just barely smarter than Sarah Palin. Santorum believes and is accurately quoted “I don’t believe in an America where the separation of church and state are absolute”. This isn’t rhetoric. These are facts. I don’t think you even know what the word “rhetoric” means. You have no use for us? Fine. We will ensure you continue to lose until you put a real conservative in front of us. One that stands for something unlike Flip Romney. Worst candidate ever! But better then the aforementioned loons.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Put someone better that Ron Paul and Gary Johnson then maybe we will vot- eh, no we won’t because we care more about ideals than politicians and anyone with your cuckoo libertarian views isn’t worth voting for. Gingrich wasn’t POTUS when he had an affair and it wasn’t in the Oval Office when he did either. Akin and Mourdock flubbed but they were still the better candidates. And I honestly doubt that you know anything about Bachmann, Perry, and Palin that didn’t come from a left-wing comedian. And I absolutely agree with Santorum, it isn’t absolute and was never intended to be. Christian principles were meant to guide policy just like they did in the Constitution.

          • Thomas Clayton Thomas

            You agree with Santorum? You believe the Founding Fathers were Christians? They were deists. I know more about Bachmann, Perry, and Palin then you know about the Founding Fathers! You are a brainwashed neocon. Cookoo Libertarians… personal attacks always make for the best argument. Learned that in debate class. Moron. And thumbing down my comments doesn’t make you right. It makes you petty.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Most of them weren’t deist, as is evidenced by the strongly Christian letters of people like Washington and Jefferson and other Founding Fathers around the time of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. Hmm, I guess you didn’t know that. It’s funny how much you can learn when you get your news from other places besides The Daily Show. And boo hoo about my cuckoo libertarians comment and thumbing down, I don’t agree with you so take it like a man.

          • Thomas Clayton Thomas

            I don’t know where you get your information from. Yes, the Founding Fathers believed in a God. They were certainly not mostly Christian. I have read both sides of the matter. I am convinced that you are employing some kind of Christian Revisionist History. Pull out some quotes to prove your position. I’ll start. Let’s take a look at the key founding fathers – John Adams, John Jay, James Madison, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and Alexander Hamilton.

            Of these, only John Jay can be considered an orthodox Christian. As Congress’s Secretary for Foreign Affairs, he argued (unsuccessfully) for a prohibition forbidding Catholics from holding office. On October 12, 1816, Jay wrote, “Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest, of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.” It is John Jay that the modern Christians have in mind when they talk about the Founding Fathers. Luckily for the rest of us, and all freedom-loving Americans, he was not in the majority.

            James Madison:
            “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.” -letter to Wm. Bradford, April 1, 1774

            “The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.” -1803 letter objecting use of gov. land for churches

            “Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.” – Ibid, 1785

            John Adams:
            “As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?” -letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816

            “I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved– the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!” -letter to Thomas Jefferson

            “The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity.”

            “This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.”

            Thomas Jefferson:
            “It has been fifty and sixty years since I read the Apocalypse, and then I considered it merely the ravings of a maniac.”

            “I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition (Christianity) one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology.”

            “Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the Common Law.” -letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, 1814

            “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose.” – to Baron von Humboldt, 1813

            Benjamin Franklin:
            “In the affairs of the world, men are saved not by faith, but by the lack of it.”

            “. . . Some books against Deism fell into my hands. . . It happened that they wrought an effect on my quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations; in short, I soon became a thorough Deist.”

            “It is much to be lamented that a man of Franklin’s general good character and great influence should have been an unbeliever in Christianity, and also have done as much as he did to make others unbelievers” (Priestley’s Autobiography)

            Washington was intensely personal about his beliefs and not much is known but it is widely considered that he was a Deist like his colleagues. He was a Freemason. Historian Barry Schwartz writes: “George Washington’s practice of Christianity was limited and superficial because he was not himself a Christian… He repeatedly declined the church’s sacraments. Never did he take communion, and when his wife, Martha, did, he waited for her outside the sanctuary… Even on his deathbed, Washington asked for no ritual, uttered no prayer to Christ, and expressed no wish to be attended by His representative.”

            I could go on, but I think you know that I could copy and paste quotes like this all day. At least I present some evidence. Feel free to refute with some of your own.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Here are some quotes for you that say otherwise: http://christianity.about.com/od/independenceday/a/foundingfathers.htm

            Also, I knew Franklin was a Deist hence me using the MOST. When they talk about religion they mean they didn’t want theocracy as in a government controlled by the church or religion. They do however want Christian principles to guide policy as in the quotes in the link state.

          • Thomas Clayton Thomas

            Oh and in regard to your Christian principles.. Did you mean “Thou shall not kill” and “Judge not lest ye be judged” yet the BIble instructs that people be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In addition to these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples of God’s irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons that defy any rational explanation such as killing children who make fun of bald people, and the killing of a man who tried to keep the ark of God from falling during transport. There are also countless examples of mass murders commanded by God, including the murder of women, infants, and children. These are the principles you were talking about I assume?

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            I don’t have to justify my religion to someone who believes the universe was created by a ball of junk exploding and believes we morphed from monkeys. kthnxbye. It also doesn’t change the fact that the Founding Fathers believed in God.

  • Maxx

    My guess is a good many of Ron Paul’s supporters got their “my God, what was I thinking?” wake up call yesterday.

    • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

      I don’t know, I don’t think anyone who knows what Ron Paul or the Paulbots believe was really all that surprised that he said something like that. I know I wasn’t, I’ve had argument with Paulbots who have effectively said the same things. You can get limited government without the Ron Paul crazy crap like this in the Tea Party.

      • WisconsinPatriot

        Right on. The arguments with paulbots are like walking in a minefield, when they turn to foreign policy as well. I have never had one turn like that, but I would not be surprised.

        • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

          When it comes to foreign policy they are crazier than liberals, absolutely have no regard for the military overseas fighting for us or the soldiers fighting it.

          • Calcat36

            Amen Ben.

          • Thomas Clayton Thomas

            Have any of you actually served? Do you actually believe it is in the best interests of America to maintain 900+ military bases across the world and spend a trillion dollars a year to do so? Yeah, it’s like a minefield because we are right. We have the highest regard for the soldiers in the field, just not much regard for the folks that put them there. Ron Paul is, and has always been, a soldiers best friend! Why do you think he got double the donations from active military personnel than all the other candidates combined? You seem to believe that because you were a “hero” on the battlefield you suddenly become infallible. War hero or not, (Timothy McVeigh was a “war hero”) he did something incredibly stupid and his arrogance prevented him from realizing the folly of his actions.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Yes, it is in our best interests and everyone elses interests to have bases in other countries so that we can take care of problems before they get here. I’m tired of you naive morons thinking that if we just all of a sudden recall all troops that all of our enemies are just going to leave us alone. Guess what buddy, they are not and you can give me whatever crybaby story you want about some innocent civilian being killed every once in awhile but that doesn’t change the fact that if we weren’t there there would be a hell of a lot more innocent people being killed either over there or here. So please kindly shut the hell up.

          • Thomas Clayton Thomas

            Imperialism is what you speak of! That’s fine bro. Afford it…

            I won’t bore you with “innocent civilians” or morally ambiguous assassinations. Realize: The greatest asset the United States has ever had, from a defensive perspective, is our geography. Absolutely no way anybody is ever going to sail a massive army into a country 2000 miles away with an extremely well armed populous. It is preposterous to even consider.

            That leaves us with nukes and terrorism.

            We can attempt to control nuclear materials by force. I don’t think that will work because the genie is already out of the bottle. I KNOW HOW TO MAKE A BOMB! Seriously, it is not that difficult once you know the engineering and physics. So, you can bomb those trying to make a bomb. Indefinitely. Won’t make any difference. A bomb will be made. And it will sail into NY harbor. And there is very little anybody can do about it.

            Terrorism! An even more indefinite war! Hell, we can kill American citizens now if we deem them terrorists. If we are willing to live in fear, then the terrorist has already won. I suppose we can live in a police state, That might stop the terror.

            I will not kindly shut up. I make good points. You can close your mind and your ears, but I prefer to hear an argument besides calling me a “naive moron”. How long have we meddled in the middle east? Since the 50s? Installing governments? the CIA has admitted as much.

            Yeah. We should just spend more money on this asinine crap.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            We have an armed populace IF our enemies get here but I would rather our military nip it in the bud before it ever gets here to threaten the lives of my family and friends. Of course our enemies know how to make nukes, that doesn’t mean we can’t take the resources and funding to make them away. I don’t think you have weighed the consequences if they are left alone to have free reign to build whatever they want. As for terrorism, do you see people here living in a constant state of fear about it? No and the reason why is our military is overseas keeping it away from us. I don’t agree with Obama being able to kill American citizens either which is a complete overreach. I think people like you though talk big and naively about us staying out of everyone’s business but I have a feeling you would change your tune if our enemies were allowed to build huge armies and weapons and came knocking on our doorstep.

          • Thomas Clayton Thomas

            Yep, Iraq was a real threat. Those WMDs might have killed us all! You admit we can’ stop a country from making nukes in the long run but are willing to endlessly spend to prolong the inevitable? “If our enemies were allowed to build huge armies and weapons and came knocking on our doorstep.” ?? Can’t happen. Figure out scenario where China or Russia or ANYBODY could actually attack and hold US soil. What do you propose we do to stop these countries from creating a huge army anyway? And if you don’t think Americans live in fear of terrorism, then explain the TSA, Patriot Act, FISA, and NDAA and the huge bureaucracy called the Dept of Homeland security.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            Citizens didn’t ask for the TSA, Patriot Act, FISA, and NDAA, the government did those things without our consent and they affect us citizens and not terrorists. We don’t want those things and has nothing to do with being afraid of terrorism. And what in the hell do you mean it can’t happen? What about 9/11 for God’s sake??? Pearl Harbor?? China or North Korea or Iran could easily attack us with nukes/soldiers, hell China could overrun us without nukes. They practically own us anyway, why wouldn’t you think they could take us? That’s why we need bases so we have people paying attention to what is going over there and can attack if need be. If anything we need more military, not less.

          • Thomas Clayton Thomas

            Notice I said “hold” US soil. Yes, we can be attacked. (Funny you can only think of two examples in the last 100 years) But nobody is going to land soldiers on American territory! Even in those examples, not a foot touched ground. It would be suicidal. Now, if you want to stop all attacks you can create the wonderful police state and take away all liberties. If that’s the way you want to go.. keep on with the status quo and your Patriot Act, FISA, NDAA, etc…

            These bases around the world do not protect us. They just suck up a lot of money and piss a lot of people off. Imagine, China with a base here! Keep on borrowing money from them to pay for our bases around the world, and yeah, that may become a reality.

          • http://extremesplash.wordpress.com/ Ben Bollman

            There were only two examples because we had a presence overseas the rest of the time and those two examples only happened because a Democrat President failed to act before the problem came here. And I as said in my earlier post that apparently you didn’t read I said I don’t agree with the FISA, NDAA, etc. and I don’t think they are necessary to fight terror. And as far as the money goes entitlements like Social Security and Medicare make up the largest chunk of our budget and are a lot larger than our Military budget so don’t whine to me about spending too much money on the one job our government should have which is to protect us when entitlements are the real problem.

    • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/ dmacleo

      rp could say sh*t is perfume and the next day a wave of brown crap covered stinky zombies would be meandering around.
      the flip side of the obama coin.

      • Calcat36

        Great analogy. Bad picture in the brain housing group…

    • http://www.facebook.com/linda.clarksetters Linda Clark Setters

      Maxx, probably not….those thinkers think alike! I’m sure they all applaud Ron Paul

      • Evan Rogers

        Who can be mad at him? He quoted Jesus.

        America booed the guy when he said “we should follow the Golden Rule”.

        If this much idiocy is what America has come to, then I’m GLAD to be called insane.

        I applaud Ron Paul with all my effort.

        • KansasGirl

          Big effort Evan.

        • Calcat36

          He quoted Jesus to disparage a combat veteran and war hero. Here is another quote from Jesus, Paulbot: “He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”

          Sandy Hook children did not live by the sword, yet they were cut down by the sword. Care to explain that to me Paulistinian?

          • India

            agreed. he used Christ’s words to be hateful and mean spirited. paul did not use the words for comfort or solace. it was not a very Christian thing to do. kyle’s body is not even cold yet.

        • bluewaternavy

          Perhaps you missed the “karma” bit that said that a combat vet got what was coming to him. Not what I’d call Jesus-like by any stretch of the imagination. Fiscal policy notwithstanding, Ron Paul is a flaming nut-case. Perhaps you didn’t notice that he has the attention whores of the Westboro Baptist Church re-tweeting him..need you be reminded of “the company you keep” axiom? you Paulistas need to seriously examine the piece of excrement you follow with lolling tongues and wagging tails-then pull your collective heads from your rectums.

  • Donald Borsch Jr.

    Oh, Ron Paul…really? Best for you to stick to fiscal stuff, bro. You just screwed the pooch on this one.

    Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield being shot by a PTSD-suffering former Marine is hardly your version of Christian Karma, Ron. It’s a tragedy. It’s horrifying. It’s despicable. Like your comments.

  • http://www.facebook.com/erik.elgringo Erik ElGringo

    Before judging, take a look at this quick article – and then tell me what makes sense:

    fff.org/2013/02/05/guilt-not-ptsd-is-what-afflicts-iraq-war-veterans/

  • TN05

    Ron Paul is a pacifist. Everyone knew it but the fact he went out and basically said it is shocking from a man who is a career liar.

    • India

      so in order to be a pacifist you have to be a dick too? you have to take to twitter like some mean 14 year old girl? paul didnt sound like a pacifist. he sounded like a mean, bitter, angry old man who never could find much of a career outside of congress.

      • Thomas Clayton Thomas

        Paula, why is that you comment so much on Ron Paul articles? Doesn’t seem to matter what news outlet, I see you there. And you are undoubtedly the most uninformed I see. Ron Paul had a successful private practice as a physician. That cannot be denied. His tone? Perhaps a bit on the truthful side for you? A soldier is a mindless automaton. A morally ambiguous career choice at best. I think its hardly apt to refer to Kyle as a “hero”. He was a killer employed by an invader to fight the “insurgents” (or, if you were an Iraqi, freedom fighters). Kyle didn’t even consider his victims to be human. He joined a long line of co-opted military members who, for the sake of their own survival, could only think of all they encountered as “gooks”, “ragheads,” “skinnies” and “sand rats.” In other words all he encountered, whether combatants or civilian collateral damage, had to be sub-human for him to do his job. And then he wrote a book bragging about it. No, Paul showed restraint in his comments.

      • Fred hgggg

        doctor in the military
        OBGYN
        12 term congressman
        Successful author and motivational speaker
        spoke up and took action against laws inhibiting your rights
        donated millions

        Dont just be in the ball park, be in the same country as the ballpark. and youll maybe worthy enough to spit at his shoes. maybe.

  • $1014973

    Ron Paul has never found a problem that he couldn’t blame on the United States.

  • http://www.theretiredbabyboomer.net/ Dave

    I know the son should not suffer for the sins of the father. But, I wonder if this will have any effect at all on Rand Paul’s chances in 2016. I bet he ole dad had an interesting conversation about this subject.

    • Calcat36

      I will vote Hillary if Randy gets the nomination. Moonbat blood runs thick and Randy cannot even get a decent haircut.

  • Evan Rogers

    Ron Paul quotes Jesus; Conservatives Furious.

    • Calcat36

      Conservatives bring more Jesus teachings to paulbot attention. Paulbots go away. Evan, please tell me why the Sandy Hook children died by the sword when they did not live by it. Haven’t you got that talking point yet? QUICK email your lord and master ronnie paulinista for the answer and then come back and dazzle me.

      • Fred hgggg

        you miss the point.

        Did you read the rest of his tweet? probably not.

  • KansasGirl

    Pure evil.

  • Sara Nichols

    Glenn was right. Ron Paul needs to be called out on what he said on twitter.

  • BeeKaaay

    One word: Pwned.

  • NotURaverageJoe

    It is a cheap shot anyways. When Jesus made the statement, “THOSE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD DIE BY THE SWORD” he was correcting his friend Peter who was about to take the law into his own hands as an individual against the Roman government. This would have been an anarchy (for more clarity please read Romans 12) move by Peter and one in which he would have perished foolishly. Besides the message was to a man that was ALIVE and able to receive the rebuke. Contrast that with what RP says, the man who was killed was already dead, he was not acting as a vigilante but as an agent of the government whose job is to protect the innocent and destroy those who threaten the innocent. Like the Seals or not, they are a hand of God used to judge evil doers (for those who do not know what I mean please read Romans 13:1-8) and RP just decided to act as coward and judge a man who had already died just to say he got what he deserved by trying to stand on the Bible. Ron Paul, I hope your alliance with Westboro Baptist Church wakes a lot of your supporters up to who you really are.

  • https://surfer53.wordpress.com Chris Mac

    I love this as a Canadian. You guys are making such fools of yourselves. Who cares what church he goes to? First you go crazy over guns, now this. Way to go, guys.

    • Fred hgggg

      hahaha oh you Canadians.

      The westboro baptist church is a racist church we have. they’ve been known to protest funerals,interracial couples and gays with incredible hatred.

      How Ron Paul making the point that we will experience blowback like this if we continue wars, somehow puts him in with a hate group

  • Thomas Clayton Thomas

    There is a lot of evidence showing that “flooding” or “exposure” therapies are indeed helpful to those suffering from PTSD. And that is great! But there is also evidence that treating in this manner can result in a psychotic break. I actually researched this before posting because I am not a licensed psychotherapist (and will point out here, that neither was Kyle). So let’s assume that the odds are 1 in 100 (or even 1 in 1000) that this therapy results in psychotic break. Ask yourself, would you want to be at the same firing range with an amateur practicing exposure therapy on a vet with PTSD? Would you at least want to know that such an experimental therapy was occurring there? Would you want to be in the booth beside this supposed therapist and patient? Or would you pack up your things and come back another day? Every site I have looked at maintained that such therapy should only be done in controlled conditions (usually beginning with a virtual environment) and should slowly work their way up to as much stress as the patient can handle, and then, only under the supervision of a licensed experienced psychotherapist. I don’t believe Kyle meets these standards, and anybody that said “Yes, take me to a firing range with two ex vets experimenting with exposure therapy” is a liar.

  • david rich

    are you kidding? he is clearly saying that our foreign policy is responsible for this tragedy. the young man PTS by being in a senseless war…then kills an American hero. but it is hard to fit that into 144 characters on twitter. it is amazing you can’t grasp that.