‘Nothing’s gayer than a Boy Scout uniform’; Celebs, others react to news of possible lift of gay Scout ban

D.L. Hughley calls himself a comedian in his Twitter bio, so we’ll take his word for it. His method of arguing for gay rights is a bit short on laughs, though. He called conservative blogger Sister Toldjah a “hooker” after she took issue with his characterization of Chick-fil-A founder Dan Cathy as a racist. Tolerance, right? So what better way to argue for the lifting of a ban on gay Boy Scouts and scout leaders than to call the organization’s uniform “gay”? It’s OK, folks, a liberal said it.

NBC News reported earlier today that the Boy Scouts of America is “actively considering” lifting the ban, which it reaffirmed just seven months ago. BSA spokesman Deron Smith told NBC the policy under consideration “would allow the religious, civic or educational organizations that oversee and deliver Scouting to determine how to address this issue.”  In other words, allowing gay members and leaders would become a sort of “troops’ rights” issue.

Actor Neil Patrick Harris displayed quite a bit more tact that Hughley, although we wonder if “diversity” covers those who have religious or other objections to homosexuality.

A lift of the ban isn’t quite enough to make Dan Savage happy. It looks like the “my duty to God and my country” clause of the oath would have to go too. Next year, maybe?

Move over Hughley — you have competition.

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  • Kenny Hitt

    As a former Scout who only missed Eagle because of the arrival of my birthday, let me invite all of you to go f*** yourselves.

    • Krazy Kent

      And as another former Boy Scout, who made it to the rank of “Star”, as well as an “Order Of The Arrow” member…..let me echo the preceding statement.
      The BSA teaches morals, values, life-long skills, self-sufficiency, and I guarantee folks, there is nothing “gay” about it. People vilify that which they know nothing about.

      • Jeffersonian

        and with my young son who is surrounded by other trustworthy and dedicated men who are there to guide and develop youth, I echo the above statement to “go f*** yourselves.”

        • kilthan

          I have three friends that are Eagle Scouts. Those mocking the Scouts can do as you three advise.

        • kilthan

          I have three friends that are Eagle Scouts. Those mocking the Scouts can do as you three advise.

      • $30158943

        You clearly peaked too soon.

      • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

        And, back when I was in the Scouts (Troop 338, Cocoa Beach, Fl.), we told a LOT of “Gay Jokes”… Jawamax 8<{D}

    • Bill C

      You missed Eagle because you didn’t work hard enough. You had SIX YEARS.

      • Kenny Hitt

        Actually I only had 3 because I joined at age 15.

      • Kenny Hitt

        Actually I only had 3 because I joined at age 15.

    • http://www.facebook.com/100000220517250 Thomas Collins

      “…let me invite all of you to go f*** yourselves.”

      Why is it that the homosexuals try to convince the public that sodomy is great fun, but when angry, they wish it upon their enemies?
      LOL It’s because it’s sado-masochism.

  • Rafael Eduardo Peña-Rios Riber

    reminds me of the coca cola and McDonald’s ads
    first they whined that the companies dont adress obesity; and when they do its being corporation hypocresy
    now the some boy scout orgs are gonna open the doors for gays and are all called gay for it

    • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

      They just want to tear down anything about America that tries to honor traditional values. There is nothing about Scouting that the “celebrity” elitists want to participate in. They just want every group in America to worship at the altar of homosexuality.

      • JINNASH

        Exactly. Here is the part I’d love one of the whiners to address. Why do they care so much about celebs opinions. Are the whiners that superficial? I think so.

      • JINNASH

        Exactly. Here is the part I’d love one of the whiners to address. Why do they care so much about celebs opinions. Are the whiners that superficial? I think so.

      • v1cious

        Guns, god, and obesity. That’s what I want to be known for.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

          Do you really feel as though the audience cares?

  • Mike Horve

    I Thought that maybe Penn State might have gave people I idea what happens to kids when a gay man is left in charge of them.

    • jacksonjay

      Don’t forget the Priests!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

        Or Bob Menendez…or union affiliated teachers….or Roman Polanski

    • $21367552

      He was a heterosexually married fine upstanding Christian. But don’t let facts get in the way of your nonsense.

      • BeyondPolls

        No, he was born a pedophile, right?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZR4D5E2WTOI4MSKK7AJS6EG3OA Everybodys All American

        Upstanding Christian? Hardly, yet who am I to judge. But if you think there won’t be trouble with letting gays into the boy scouts you are simple minded.

      • NRPax

        Actually no. He is a homosexual and a pedophile. But let me guess: That’s a beautiful lifestyle choice that should be celebrated?

        • fivegreatkids

          No Diakonon, if he was molesting underage girls he is a heterosexual pedophile. If he was molesting underage boys he is a gay pedophile. Same sex is gay. That is pretty basic human sexuality 101

          • NRPax

            The problem with your statement is two fold:

            1. It’s based on dictionary definitions.
            2. It’s not politically correct.

        • fivegreatkids

          No Diakonon, if he was molesting underage girls he is a heterosexual pedophile. If he was molesting underage boys he is a gay pedophile. Same sex is gay. That is pretty basic human sexuality 101

      • NRPax

        Actually no. He is a homosexual and a pedophile. But let me guess: That’s a beautiful lifestyle choice that should be celebrated?

      • JINNASH

        No he wasn’t. He CLAIMED to be those things but he was not. And remember, your side keeps voting for KNOWN liars and cheats so long as the get their govt. money. Real standards; overgrown crybabies have nuance.

        • v1cious

          I’d rather have a known crook than one that hides it.

      • JINNASH

        No he wasn’t. He CLAIMED to be those things but he was not. And remember, your side keeps voting for KNOWN liars and cheats so long as the get their govt. money. Real standards; overgrown crybabies have nuance.

      • Comrade Jones

        Heterosexual that ws attracted to males. Of course he was.

      • Comrade Jones

        Heterosexual that ws attracted to males. Of course he was.

      • Shawn Smith

        So if he was heterosexual, why was he molesting *male* children? Why are such a high percentage of pedophiles molesting children of the *same sex*? It sounds like you have a definition problem.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

        Generally, as a rule. heterosexuals are not attracted to members of the same sex. Your comment is a non sequitur.

      • TocksNedlog

        Way to go, diakonon. Are you claiming that pedophiles mask their lifestyles, therefore an openly gay person will not be a pedophile?
        Sim•ple.

  • peteee363

    what a joke, will they now give merit badges for room decor, and drag queen competitions?

    • TocksNedlog

      One badge for “camping” and another one for “camping it up”.

  • Jeff

    I’m not really surprised, but I am disappointed that the BSA is caving in to political pressure. Also, they are only pushing the onus of the “gay ban” to the individual units. I imagine there are going to be a number of Councils, Committees and Scoutmasters that won’t be happy with this new responsibility.
    –Former Scout, Assistant Scoutmaster, father or four Eagle Scouts.

    • Comrade Jones

      If this goes much further I’m thinking of renouncing my eagle scout award. There will not be much point in having it if the organization is ethically and practically worthless

    • Comrade Jones

      If this goes much further I’m thinking of renouncing my eagle scout award. There will not be much point in having it if the organization is ethically and practically worthless

  • aegean1

    “Come on, Boy Scouts, do the right thing. Diversity should be honored and valued. There should be a merit badge for it.”

    Except for diversity of thought, right? We all have to believe exactly as you do, and if we don’t we’re racist/bigoted/hateful/intolerant/etc.

    • $21367552

      So what exactly is the “diversity of thought” that is being hampered here?

      • BeyondPolls

        Religious freedom.

        • $21367552

          Religious freedom to do what? Tell homosexuals they are all a bunch of child-molesting predators?

          My religion tells me that Christians should not be allowed on the Internet. You’re violating my religious freedom by even being here!

          • BeyondPolls

            No, religious freedom to have a private organization not force people of deviant lifestyles on their children. Allowing some kids with confused lifestyles in is one thing, maybe they’ll learn something. All kids are confused at one point in their lives anyways. But allow scoutmasters of confused lifestyles is an absolute NO-NO. It’s dangerous.

          • Comrade Jones

            Even allowing kids should be subject to the ethics of the organization.

          • BeyondPolls

            I guess.

          • Comrade Jones

            Even allowing kids should be subject to the ethics of the organization.

          • Joe W.

            You have no religion at all, Needlenose. Idiocy is NOT a religion.

          • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

            Joe, I think he’s proven many times over that he worships at the Altar of Idiocy.

          • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

            Joe, I think he’s proven many times over that he worships at the Altar of Idiocy.

          • SineWaveII

            It is to the people on the left. Their leader Obama is its patron saint.

          • Comrade Jones

            Well if you own the internet then by all means. Kick us off. The right to have an organization/firm with its own codes and values as set down by its founders or ruling body is religious freedom, not being offended. Oh and homosexual childmolestors are in fact, homosexual. Well typically they are bisexual, but the vast majority of homosexuals are bisexual in practical application.

          • v1cious

            Yeah, tell that to all those teachers getting busted. Neither gay nor male.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

            Educator abuse is exclusively heterosexual? Why, if it weren’t for the news, I would find your argument compelling.

          • v1cious

            I didn’t say it was exclusive, I just find it comical that you think homosexuals are the great danger facing our children after all these cases that clearly show otherwise.

          • Michael Rice

            “All thsoe teachers getting busted” sounds pretty inclusive to me..

          • Michael Rice

            The deviant decline of American culture and morality is teh problem. The acceptance of homosexuality is a problem and a symptom.

          • JINNASH

            Nice try but FAIL. Your only looking at media sensationalism. According to various law enforcement agencies research, the facts say otherwise.

          • Michael Rice

            Nah, don’t you know….hetro males molest male children just as often as homo males…ask any liberal.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

            A)The boy scouts used those exact words?
            B) How are your liturgical interpretations germane?
            C) You realize that you are free to abstain from support, right?

          • TocksNedlog

            The Internet is a private organization now, is it?

          • CatHerder

            Have you ever seen the Scout Oath? Do you know the Scout Law?

          • Michael Rice

            Freedom to have an orgaization based on teh beliefs and principles that are taught in the Bible. I should be able to start a private organization that beleifs whatever it wants and sets its own mebership rules. THe internet, genius, is not private.

          • Michael Rice

            Remember when schools and PUBLIC facilities started banning them from having meetings, even though they met the same requirements as other groups. They were even banned form parks in some places. It was all because of their stance on gays. That, is discrimination. The same “diversity” that you seek, I guess.

          • JINNASH

            Thank you for proving my pointing out the radical left’s immaturity. Your post says it all. Now, grow up, do some research and you’ll discover these facts.
            1) There is NO biological evidence that same sex attraction is natural. All of the “research” turns out to be nothing more than opinion surveys. THAT ISN’T SCIENCE.
            2) It is fair to say that the true cause of same sex attraction has been proven to be caused by other factors. There is evidence leaning towards psychological but nothing is definitive.
            3) Just because “some” people want something to be accepted doesn’t mean they always get what they want. Beastality? Pedophilia? Necrophilia? Sorry but a truly civilized society draws a line as to what is acceptable and what is not.
            4) Same sex relationships have been acceptable in certain societies throughout history. They also treated some people as slaves for their own gratification. These two fact are related, despite the PC revisionist history to uncouple them.
            5) Traditional family recognizes the importance of both parents(complementary in roles, equal in diginity). The anti-family crowd is DESPERATE to replace the father. Why? Because dependent women are easiest group to control. Don’t believe me. Look at the voting patterns. Single mothers DO NOT posession a “special” wisdom or knowledge. They are scared(some even admit it) or selfish. They voted for their “sugar daddy” BO.
            6) Statist, socialist, etc. are NOT intelligent, since their ideas always collapse societies due to their never ending greed.
            Finally, the only way to make people like you grow up is to make you suffer some type of hardship and/or adversity. That’s why I think people like yourself either need to A) leave your bubble(like the one the LSM live in) or B) be forced to take responsibility for your own well-being.
            The immaturity of the left is pathetic and needs to be ridiculed on a daily basis. You do not deserve respect or to be allowed in mainstream society.

          • Grumpa Grumpus

            Wow.

            That was really well done!

            I haven’t read a take-down that well done in a very long time.

          • JINNASH

            Thanks

      • grais

        The one that is the opposite of ‘gays belong wherever gays say they belong’

      • Shawn Smith

        Are you that lacking in self-awareness? Anyone who questions the party line on homosexuality is attacked relentlessly. Have you heard of Chick-Fil-A, and the mayors threatening to illegally block their business? That’s a clear violation of the first amendment.

        Anyone who disagrees with you is branded a “hate group”, which effectively shuts them out of discussion.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

        The ability for an organization to conduct their affairs in the best manner they see fit, free of populist outrage and shaming, for starters…..

      • TocksNedlog

        The idea that “diversity” doesn’t necessarily mean the same thing as ‘anything goes’ is a tough one to get your brain-case around, ain’t it?

      • Shawn Smith

        You clearly don’t believe in freedom. A free man’s solution would be, let them do what they want. If I disagree, I’ll start my own group that acts differently. I will strive to make my group better in every respect and out-compete them. They will still exist, but no one will care because my group is clearly better.

        Instead, your solution is, They will do as we, the morally superior, demand. They have no choice in the matter. We will persecute them until they comply.

        You don’t believe in freedom at all. You believe in compliance.

      • http://www.facebook.com/100000220517250 Thomas Collins

        the right to associate

  • Shelby is a Patriot

    Ooh, I wonder when they’re gonna start giving out the “Everyone’s a winner” Badge? Probably soon after.

  • Shelby is a Patriot

    So why exactly are they calling Boy Scouts gay like it’s a bad thing? Hypocrites.

    • $21367552

      Nobody was calling it gay like it’s a bad thing. It’s called a joke you irony-challenged turnip.

      • grais

        Certainly they were. They were mocking gays And Boy Scouts.

      • AWomaninTX

        It’s mockery, not “irony”. For it to be irony, the Scouts *would* need be gay.
        But to be honest, those particular people most likely are not truly invested in the situation. They’re just quick to make an lazy “joke”.

      • AWomaninTX

        It’s mockery, not “irony”. For it to be irony, the Scouts *would* need be gay.
        But to be honest, those particular people most likely are not truly invested in the situation. They’re just quick to make an lazy “joke”.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

        Using the term “gay” in a derisive manner is no longer a bad thing?

      • TocksNedlog

        Yeah, saying that the Boy Scouts should allow gays because the organization IS gay — that’s hilarious.

      • Shelby is a Patriot

        Aww, okay, because you lefties like to call people gay to be funny, right?
        Go watch MSNBC, loser.

      • JINNASH

        I find it interesting that the gay lobby targeted Boy Scouts. Part of the hate America crowd!

      • Grumpa Grumpus

        I think the word you want is “sardonic”, which means sarcastically mocking or cynical… “irony” refers exclusively to using a word as the opposite of its definition.

    • SineWaveII

      What I don’t get is why are they leap-frogging straight to gay-rights? Shouldn’t they be letting in girls and women first? Isn’t it sexual-discrimination to keep them out?
      Prediction: Look for the boy scouts to move to the left now, It will now become the new Obama-youth.

  • nc

    And another fine traditional institution falls…

  • Karl Morey

    Re: the whiners now aiming at the “my duty to God and country” part of the oath…

    First they’re going to want to scrub God from it.

    Then the angry libs are going to want to scrub “country,” too. Duty to one’s country? That’s, like, jingoistic and military and all that! It should be nice and pretty and “duty to each other and the planet.”

    …Did I channel that the right way?

    • MissQuinn82

      I think you nailed it.

      ~Q

    • JINNASH

      Your right. This is step one.

  • http://alert-up-usa.com/ AlertUpUSA

    Are we just going to stand by and let them do this to us? Why should the libs be able to press for a lifting of ban on homosexuality? Why is BSA even considering caving? Are they too far up the river with federal funding?

    • Jeff

      Who knows but I’m going to call them tomorrow and find out what is going on. They don’t receive any federal funding as far as I know.

      • CatHerder

        They did not at one time. Now, I just can’t say.

  • Roger Taylor

    Because if ANYONE knows the joys of letting sexual predators near your children, it’s Mia Farrow.

    • CherDash

      Boom!

      • Stone Bryson

        Let me follow that “BOOM!” with a “Hell yeah!”

      • Stone Bryson

        Let me follow that “BOOM!” with a “Hell yeah!”

    • TocksNedlog

      It wasn’t just the thing with Woody. She married Frank Sinatra when he was 50 years old and she was 21.

      She has issues.

      • SineWaveII

        not just issues, she has subscriptions.

        • JINNASH

          and perscriptions.

    • SineWaveII

      ha ha ha Epic!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/T4QVIGWM7L7FCX47BFHX6PVY7E Mom Of three

      I was thinking the same thing

    • JINNASH

      ZING!

    • SideshowJon36

      Hey! That 13 y/o girl was TOTALLY hitting on Polanski!

      Oh, you meant Woody Allen.

      Unless you meant her pedophile brother.

  • $129448

    So, Neil Patrick Harris, should there be a Merit badge for Heterosexual Sex too?

    • BeyondPolls

      Good one! What about incest?

  • $129448

    What a shame everyone has to announce their sexual preference to the world….when the hell did this happen

    • wwbdinct

      Perfect! That about sums it up.

    • $21367552

      So I guess (assuming you have a husband) you do not tell anybody about him, nor did you tell anybody about him even when you were dating? Can’t be announcing your “sexual preference” to the world you bold-faced hussy.

      • Joe W.

        Normal people are heterosexual, idiot. We don’t need to announce that fact to the world. Just you screeching perverts feel the need to spew your venom at people of solid moral values and behaviors. And we can only pray you can overcome the demons that drive you to this sinful, disgusting behavior.

        • v1cious

          Whenever I see a comment like this, it always makes me wonder if you people actually say these kinds of things to your neighbors, coworkers. I can only imagine the reactions.

          • Joe W.

            Who cares what YOU wonder, pal?? In my small, rural, middle American town, my neighbors and my friends tend to feel the same way that I do. We often wonder just what in the hell is wrong with you idiot liberals who are allowing the very traditional values you were raised on be destroyed by “progressives”. As for the reactions?? We are prepared to defend our way of life, my friend. BTW…Your avatar speaks volumes about you, Obamanaut.

          • v1cious

            Rural, now it makes sense. May I ask what state?

          • Joe W.

            “Tyshunn”…..Now it all makes sense. No you may not. You disparage those who don’t live in your urban ghettos. Go to hell.

          • v1cious

            Just like you just disparaged all urban people as living in ghettos? Funny how that works.

          • Joe W.

            Seems to me that YOU started it, sista. Funny how liberals perceive things. Moon bats…Each and every one of you.

          • $129448

            oh yeah, people in the ghetto just love homosexuals. when was the last time you went to a church in a black or hispanic neighborhood?

          • v1cious

            The old guard, sadly. I disregard the opinion of anyone born before 1960.

          • $129448

            wow, you sound like a smart person

          • CatHerder

            Obviously. Like Baden-Powell, Thomas Jefferson, Cicero, Sokrates et al. Does Franklin Roosevelt get a pass or is he too old too?

          • v1cious

            Sorry I forgot hyperbole is the weapon of choice around here, I would think most people know what I meant when I said that. By the way, “Socrates” is well-known for being one of those gay pedophiles you’re so terrified of.

          • CatHerder

            By your own words I’m much too old to worry about pedophiles. I thought you were just disregarding all us oldies?

          • Michael Rice

            Ahhhh….the stereotyping comes out. I thought all you prgressive liberals were against that.
            Yes, people with values and strong morals tend to gravittate toward small rural communities, away from idiot such as yhourself who tend to head towards the bright lights of the nearest cess pool/big city.
            Check the crime rates, among other things, sometime. For one, murder rates are highest where liberals live…..now THAT makes sense.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

            Being heterosexual is outside of the norm, using a statistical definition?

          • Michael Rice

            Actually, yes, I do and they agree.

          • JINNASH

            You really don’t get it. People with children want them raised in a traditional environment; even some libs I know. Things are REALLY different when it is your own child.
            One(of many) problems with the left is that they think that their own College Coffee House rhetoric is valid. Did you ever wonder why the radical left targets the young?!?! If your self-proclaimed brilliance did you ever think that their might be a reason. Let me help you out with that…Its because they are easily fooled. They lack critical experience and the redical prey upon it.
            Young scouts also lack critical experience…that’s why they are being targeted.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

        You do realize that most people do not find it necessary to flaunt their sexuality in front of children, no? When I got married, my class knew that I married a man. I did not detail bedroom affairs. Therein, lies the difference.

      • $129448

        don’t assume too much loser. you are an idiot. that is not what I meant. Do you always walk around announcing that you are straight or gay? I don’t & nor do my gay friends & family. Most people don’t give a crap what a person sexual orientation is. “Hi, nice to meet you, did you know I am Gay?” oh yeah, that sounds normal.

      • Michael Rice

        Telling someone about your husband and announcing to the world you are gay are entirely different. Although, I Understand someone as obviously dense as you not getting that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZR4D5E2WTOI4MSKK7AJS6EG3OA Everybodys All American

    Parents letting there kids join boy scouts should now think twice.

  • Matt

    Bad decision by the Boyscouts. And I’m sorry, maybe I’m a neanderthal but what is so great about “diversity”(whatever that even means in this day and age).

  • IronButterfly

    As an Eagle scout and former Scout Master, this will have terrible consequences for the scouts. I am very disappointed in the national office. For years they said this will never happen. This will end up being an open invitation to pedophiles.

    I think that what will happen is that the scouts will totally split and a new organization will start that will not permit people who live that life style to participate.

    Just as our whole culture becomes more deeply divided so will the scouts. Very unfortunate that the few dictate to the many.

    • NRPax

      What annoys me the most is that there are alternatives to the Boy Scouts that welcome openly gay members without any problem. Why not join them and leave the BSA alone?

      • CatHerder

        That would be contrary to the agenda.

    • NRPax

      What annoys me the most is that there are alternatives to the Boy Scouts that welcome openly gay members without any problem. Why not join them and leave the BSA alone?

  • Kate

    What’s next, Girl Scouts of America admitting men?

    As a 22-year-old, the direction this country is going in is terrifying. Thank goodness for my fellow young Conservatives holding firm on their principles.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

      The girl scouts have admitted “transgendered” children for a few years now.

  • John Thomas “Jack” Ward III

    I got kicked out of my Boy Scout Troop for smoking, but they wouldn’t “Forgive” or “Tolerate” me…. However, I still support the Scouts. Now they want to bring Gays into the fold? It’s LIBERAL BULLYING, Strong-arm tactics, and NOTHING MORE! If they allow Gays, then they should forgive me, too! Jawamax 8<{D}

  • Shawn Smith

    It’s fascinating that those who claim to be for tolerance and acceptance immediately leap to name-calling and stereotypes.

  • $42287495

    So the new Boy Scout uniform will be a pink mini skirt i’m guessing. No doubt AIDS/STD’s are going to be the next big issue facing the scouts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/100000220517250 Thomas Collins

    Relentless intimidation. They’re sued for abuse, and now they’re considering letting these sexual perverts be scoutmasters?

  • TocksNedlog

    What type of “merit badge” would Neil Patrick Harris like for them to award?
    — tent pitching?
    — bareback riding?
    — wood gathering?
    — huddling for warmth?
    — rubbing two sticks together to make sparks!?!

    How about (God forbid!) when it comes to the sexual preferences of UNDERAGE boys we agree to a “If you promise not to tell, I promise not to ask,” policy?

  • almarquardt

    Instead of complaining about the Boy Scouts having certain standards some disagree with, why not expending that energy on creating a similar group where gays are allowed. No one is stopping them.

    I doubt anyone will, because it’s not about allowing gays per se, but about forcing a different set of values on a private organization.

    These people decry descrimination, but how is forcing the Boy Scouts to change their values not infringing on their rights and freedom?

    • TocksNedlog

      Infringing on rights — in the name of ‘equality’ — is what liberals do.

      • http://twitter.com/KahNayNay KahNayNay

        But this is a PRIVATE ORGANIZATION, with its leadership, that is caving. If members want a don’t ask don’t tell policy, then they need to say they will shut down in every city, their boy scout troops that disagree with it.

    • StrikeSudden

      Not agreeing on gay thing. But how does the right who complain about children learning fiscal responsibility allow scout leaders who file bankruptcy?

      • almarquardt

        If you or your child is a member, then you have every right to complain. My issue is with those who are not members trying to tell the Boy Scouts what to do and how to act.

        • StrikeSudden

          I define what a leader should be more than just gay issue. Scouts need more money than what is generated by just members. Pulled my son out, when scout leader parents so fiscal irresponsible not even funny. They say he look kids I have all this cool scout gear. You can have to overspend file bankruptcy and buy more. Then put pressure on the group to spend more. No more finacial strain on them.
          You want to complain about morals. Then prove you have them all.

          • almarquardt

            If the scout leader was a bad leader, then you were right to remove your son. You should (assuming you haven’t) have also turned in said leader to others that he was such a poor example and mentor to others. But one poor leader does not mean an entire organization is corrupt, any more than every business, church or organization out there is entirely corrupt because of one person associated with it.

            You still haven’t addressed my original point: Why do non-members of a private organization have a right to force said organization change their beliefs to something that is, to them, an anathema?

            As for “proving I have all morals,” I’m not sure what your point is.

    • Gekk

      I thought they tried that… maybe 15-20 years ago I read how the co-educational “Explorer Scouts” were going to be the new Boy/Girl Scouts as a more open tolerant yadda-yadda-yadda.

      I’m sure they’re still around, and as they’re co-ed I doubt they’d have the same issues if your child was gay.

      Of course he could just join the Boy Scouts too. We had a couple gay scout members while I was in Scouts… if you don’t make it an issue, neither does anyone else.

      • CatHerder

        I was in the Boy Scouts, Explorers and Sea Explorers, they were all part of the BSA and none of them were co-ed back then. Do you have information on the organization now that differs? I ask for informational purposes only!

        • Gekk

          http://www.sageventure.com/venturing/crews/Crew131HiLiteArticle.pdf

          Boy Scouts is no longer just for boys. With the start of a new club here, both genders now can participate in activities once deemed exclusively for Boy Scouts. Venture Crew 131, which began recruiting here earlier this year, is a group for people ages 14 to 20 that are interested in participating in outdoor-type activities.

          http://www.oandc.com/media/entries/girl-boy-scouts

          Young women 13 or older may participate in the “Venturing” program that is part of the BSA. Venturing grew out of the earlier “Explorer” Scouts program, which went co-ed in 1969.

          I couldn’t remember if it was “Explorer” scouts or “Venture” scouts I heard of; and it’s not all areas/troops; but some areas do have a co-ed scouting for age 14+ kids.

          I recall reading of it, not seeing it so I don’t know how widespread this is.

          • CatHerder

            Wow. Thinking back on what I and most other guys were like as teenagers, I hope the campouts are heavily supervised.

  • SineWaveII

    Look for the Boy Scouts to go bankrupt now. Probably in less than 10 years.

  • TocksNedlog

    If right-wing conservatives are ‘moralists telling us how we should behave,’ then left-wing liberals are ‘IMMORALISTS telling us that ANY behavior is acceptable.’
    Hmm, I wonder which attitude is better for society . . .

  • Paladin

    Soooo … if we let gay scout leaders take a bunch of teenage boys on a campout, when do we let men take a bunch of teenage girls on a campout?

  • madian_kikyou

    If they cave they’re another group I have lost respect for.

  • http://twitter.com/KahNayNay KahNayNay

    If they cave, I figure people can then found another type of Boy Scout program for only Christian Straight guys…..nobody says they have to stay in the organization if they don’t like the rules….

  • notenoughtime

    Pretty soon are kids will not be involved in any activities since it seems that we need to be looking out for them everywhere. Why do social issues always hurt the most innocent, our children. Some will not be happy until any and all long standing tradition are imploded and social issues moved to the front. Enough already!

  • Ken Alan Draper

    Only a liberal would trash an organisation for not including gays by calling them gay. kinda shows how they really feel about gay folks don’t it. the boy scouts is a religous organisation that bans gays because buggery is a sin. yet the people who claim to care about gay folks use the term “gay” as a n insult. What a bunch of nuts.

  • Mark Stephens

    And nothing is sadder than a lib trying to push their viewpoint on everyone else.

    As an Eagle Scout who has been involved in the Boy Scouts for over 40 years, I have seen the program develop and evolve. However, while changing the methods used to deliver the Scouting program the VALUES have not changed. And it is those VALUES that most offend those on the left. Yes, my friends, there are things that are right and there are things that are wrong.

    The Scouting program has been around for over 100 years based on those VALUES. Nowhere has a Scout’s or a leader’s sexual orientation become an issue UNLESS THEY MAKE IT AN ISSUE. Have there been, and are there currently gay Scouts and leaders? I’m sure there are. Will the National Council of the BSA make this change? I
    honestly don’t know. But I hope that the decision is not made to appease some group, but rather to uphold the standards and VALUES Scouting stands for.

    And, as for these individuals who make denigrating comments about Scouts, I would like to see them do some of the things my Scouts have done over the years. Not only the week-long back country trips where you carry everything that you need on your back, but also the thousands of hours of community service that these young men and women put in year after year. And I defy anyone to read the Scout Oath and Scout Law, then look me in the eye and tell me we would not be better off if we all lived up to these VALUES.

  • $23629333

    While we’re on the subject of gays in uniform, there’s news today that Jim Nabors has married his partner of 40 years. No, not Rock Hudson.

  • SideshowJon36

    Gotta respect Neil Patrick Harris. No name calling. No hateful language. Just encouraging a group to change their view.