Gun owner outed by Journal News burglarized by thieves looking to steal his gun? NY State Senator demands action

And so it begins. The Journal News shamefully published the personal information of gun permit holders in two New York counties. While such information is available via public records, this was widely believed to be a gift to criminals. And, now? One of the outed gun owners has been burglarized. And, gee, guess what may have been targeted?

The criminals apparently targeted the gun safe.

Police are currently investigating whether or not this home was specifically targeted due to the outing.

Police are investigating what role, if any, the database played in the burglars’ decision to target the home, the law enforcement source said.

Sane Twitter users suspected this could happen.

Guess who else thought something like this could happen? The Rockland County Sheriff.

It’s not just the potential targeting of homes in order to steal guns. The sheriff brought up another point that the lapdogs at the shameful Journal News don’t care about.

He said it’s endangering the lives of his correction officers and other Rockland County public servants because criminals, gang members, or others who want to do harm to the officers are searching out the maps to find where they live.

Fox News’ Judge Jeanine Pirro was another gun owner outed by the paper. And she rightfully, and brilliantly, gave them the business.

Fight like a gun-toting girl? You betcha!

Putnam County refused to hand over the personal information to the Journal News. The Clerk said he refused to “put lives in danger.” Hint: This is why, “journalists.”

New York State Senator Greg Ball is blaming the paper and its outing list.

Ball released a statement yesterday, in which he announced that he would be offering legislation today.

Sen. Ball renews call for immediate removal of maps and unveils legislation

Law enforcement plans rally to hold Journal News Accountable

Brewster, N.Y. – 1/13/2013 – Today Senator Greg Ball (Patterson – R, C, I) announced that a burglary has been reported on Davis Ave. in White Plains, New York that evidently ties into The Journal News gun maps. It is reported that the burglar used The Journal News’ interactive gun map to target a home included on the map. Luckily the gun was locked up and no one was hurt.

“The Journal News has placed the lives of these folks at risk by creating a virtual shopping list for criminals and nut jobs. If the connection is proven, this is further proof that these maps are not only an invasion of privacy but that they present a clear and present danger to law-abiding, private citizens. Former convicts have already testified to the usefulness of the asinine Journal News ‘gun maps’ yet the reckless editors are evidently willing to roll the dice, gambling with the lives of innocent local homeowners,” said Senator Greg Ball.

Tomorrow, Senator Ball will be publicly unveiling three separate pieces of legislation, all with bipartisan support, among them (S2132), to protect the privacy rights of ordinary citizens; including: law enforcement personnel, victims of domestic violence and private citizens. Let it be clear however, that under Ball’s legislation that has garnered bipartisan kudos and support, law enforcement and all related agencies would continue to have full access to permit information. Senate bill (S2132) would protect lawful gun owners, including thousands of retired and active law enforcement and victim of domestic violence survivors, from having their information publicly disclosed.

“The same elitist eggheads who use their editorial page to coddle terrorists and criminals are now treating law abiding citizens like level three sexual predators. These bills are critical to keep folks safe and fundamentally protect their inherent right to privacy. I hope all of these bills will be brought to the floor for an up or down vote, and allowed to fail or pass on their own merits and not as part of a large, overarching gun-control package. This is not about the Second Amendment; these bills are simply about commonsense and personal privacy. Publishing this information on a website, as we have evidently just witnessed in the recent attempted gun burglary, provides criminals with a map of where they can steal firearms from lawful owners for later use in the commission of crimes. This legislation is critical,” said Senator Greg Ball.

In addition to Senator Ball’s legislation, the Vice President of the Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County, Robert Buckley, said in a letter, publishing these maps online is jeopardizing the safety of residents and is irresponsible.

“The Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County Inc. is putting The Journal News on notice that we will hold [them] accountable for any incident where any of our over 25,000 members are involved with an incident where a criminal or ex-con presents themselves at the residence of one of our members as a result of their name being made public by [their] newspaper,” said Buckley.

The Affiliated Police Association of Westchester will be holding a press conference on January 15, 2013 at the Westchester County Courthouse located at 111 Dr. Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard, White Plains, N.Y. at 1:00 p.m.

Will we now see lawsuits?

And this Twitter user puts it in a nutshell, brilliantly.

Heh. Make them play by their own rules, indeed.

  • Bob Smooper

    Hold on a second.

    No causality has been established to suggest that this crime was committed BECAUSE of the map and not DESPITE the map.

    No motive has been proffered and every tweet above is mere speculation.

    • GaryTheBrave

      The left’s contention that the Second Amendment leads to mass shootings is also just conjecture, but one that is proven false.

    • Shawn Smith

      And no evidence has been offered that conservatives are racists, but that idea is routinely presented as fact by our lying media.

    • $30423294

      Temporal contiguity is enough to establish it as a provisional hypothesis.

      Stick with your global warming bud. It’s all about the pretty polar bears.

  • BeyondPolls

    If we publish the names of women who have had abortions, will pro-lifers invade their homes? I highly doubt it.

    • Rick Stones

      Nobody wants to steal mutilated aborted dead babies. Plenty of violent criminals want to steal guns.

      “Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh.” Job 2:10

      • BeyondPolls

        But there’s no babies left. The women would not have them anymore, but I was just saying that pro-lifers don’t break into people’s houses as a regular habit.
        But IF a ‘right to privacy’ is in the penumbra of the Constitution, then these gun owners have the same right. Can I get a witness?

  • Leroy Whitby

    This is inevitable. If you wanted to do a hit, and had 100’s of addresses where guns were located to be stolen . . . The blood will be on the hands of these newspaper people.

    • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

      The paper should be sued out of existence by anyone who has a family member shot by one of these stolen guns.

    • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

      I thought crooks wouldn’t target people if they knew they had guns. Now they are targeting specifically people own guns?

      • Leroy Whitby

        When you own a gun you don’t publicize it. Guns have street value. Druggies will steal them for the quick cash, murderers buy them because they are not traceable to them.

      • Leroy Whitby

        When you own a gun you don’t publicize it. Guns have street value. Druggies will steal them for the quick cash, murderers buy them because they are not traceable to them.

  • http://twitter.com/AngryTwitch T. Baguette Jones

    Wait, I thought it was the UNARMED that were gifts to the criminals? Make up your mind. Which lame narrative is it? So being ARMED does NOT deter thieves now cuz they are only going to steal your guns? Heh. Twitchy fails again.

    • $30423294

      Interesting that the common leftist’s first reaction is confusion.

      Sad.

    • Lord Foggybottom

      The number one item on a criminal’s shopping list is guns, because they can use them in crimes or sell them for cash. You’re pretty stupid, aren’t you?

    • NYLGK Likes Little Boys

      Bless your heart!

    • Shawn Smith

      Meanwhile you’re avoiding the real point that the newspaper’s despicable action led directly to this invasion of someone’s home and destruction of their property. If anyone had been killed here, that would be directly on the head of the Journal News (and indirectly on the head of twerps like you who cheer them on).

    • Conservative Jen

      Ummmm…never mind, not worth arguing with a stupid liberal.

    • stuckinIL4now

      Since you don’t care about privacy, we’ll just post maps with crosshairs pointing to the homes of dumbmass libturds like you so common peon citizens can come around and taunt your ignorance.

      • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

        Anyone’s address can be found. It’s not hard. And by “taunt” you mean shoot right? Hence the “crosshairs” reference.

        • ZoriahShepard

          Did that leap to a completely absurd conclusion tire you out? How about the twisting of someone’s weird? Take a rest. You must be tuckered.

        • ZoriahShepard

          Did that leap to a completely absurd conclusion tire you out? How about the twisting of someone’s weird? Take a rest. You must be tuckered.

    • disappearing moderate

      Try to grasp, even though there are several issues at play. Some criminals will target the homes of those who don’t own guns because they view such homes as easy targets. Other criminals will target gun owners because stolen guns have a high resale value and are useful in committing other crimes. Still other criminals will be able to target ex-girlfriends, LE officers, DA’s or any others upon whom they wish to take revenge. Criminals come in different types, but they all will find it useful to have addresses for and maps leading to their victims and will be fore armed with the knowledge of what level of preparedness is best to execute their crimes.

      • stuckinIL4now

        Well put. But do you really expect a libturd to engage in this kind of critical thinking or this long of a thought process that will certainly halt their knee-jerk reactions?

        • http://twitter.com/AngryTwitch T. Baguette Jones

          332-206

          • Guest

            Just because ding-dong won the election, that doesn’t mean he gets anything he wants just because he wants it.

          • TexSizzle

            51% – 47%.

    • http://twitter.com/AngryTwitch T. Baguette Jones

      I now fully understand why conservatives continue to LOSE elections and favorability with America. You are all DOPES.

      Let’s review:

      a) If you do NOT have a gun, you can’t protect yourself from criminals.
      b) If you DO have a gun, you can’t protect yourself from criminals because they will go after your gun.
      c) Make up your mind

      Conclusion: Conservative Media makes you DUMBER.

      Hint: Trying explaining your theories to a 5yo first. If the 5yo is confused, then it means you are an idiot.

      • Rick Stones

        Love the random CAPITALIZATION! Makes you appear capitalisionary.

        • http://twitter.com/AngryTwitch T. Baguette Jones

          Love the superficial response. Can’t argue the issues, so attack the CAPITALIZATION.

          • grais

            fingusernames slapped you silly. Will you argue the issue with him/her?

          • fingusernames

            Jones is probably choosing choosing the better part of valor and abiding the maxim “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.” In this case, however, I would substitute “scribble more nonsense” for opening one’s mouth.

          • grais

            disappearing moderate slapped you silly, too. I can’t help but notice no response from you there, either.
            why is that?

          • ForTheRepublic

            Yes, because it’s so difficult to refute the fact that the gun owner wasn’t home when his house was broken into. Now I know you most likely don’t believe what you’re typing, and you’re a fairly obvious troll (T. Baguette? Really? Grow up, dude.), but here’s the deal: This just blew the whole “guns are the problem” argument right out of the water. I mean, none of his guns unlocked the safe, loaded themselves, and shot the criminals. Know why? It’s because guns don’t kill people, people kill people.

      • David Shrock

        Read the article, the victim was not present at his home. His firearms were not reachable do to being stored in a safe. Had the victim been home the story could have ended quite differently.

      • fingusernames

        Point a) is entirely accurate: if you are disarmed, you have no defense whether at home or not. Point b) however should be re-phrased:

        b) if you DO have a gun locked in safe, your house cannot defend itself when a burglar breaks in while you are not home

        A gun is a valuable piece of property, like jewelry. Just as guns do not kill on their own, neither do guns defend homes on their own. Just as with jewelry, a burglar will target valuable property in a home to steal it. The newspaper provided a treasure map. If the state kept a registration of valuable jewelry collections which was public record, and the newspaper published it, it would likewise be a treasure map.

        Let’s modify c) too:

        c) unaddressed is whether a *person* at home during a home invasion is better protected with a weapon than a person without one

        Conclusion: you should take a baguette with you when you sign up for your introductory logic course at your nearest community college.

      • Lord Foggybottom

        Your sheer ignorance and stupidity is breathtaking. Either that or your ideology has blocked all rational thought from ever getting into that pea-sized brain of yours. You owe us an apology for being so stupid.

      • LadaMokusa

        If you believe that a 5 year old child represents the acme of cognitive logical capabilities then you have more problems than you realize.

    • David Shrock

      First off I would like to state your name speaks volumes. The writing is on the wall. A criminal will break in using the information provided by the vile media. There was not one single positive reason to post said information. What it did do is make the citizen a blip to either steal from or avoid depending upon the criminals mindset. It is our 2nd amendment right to own firearms. Someone will break in and challenge a gun owner, be shot in self defense, possibly live and then the spin will make the criminal become the victim. The map information will be utilized as some form of defense and the media will be fair game.

    • orringtonmom (D)

      way to miss the entire point.

    • grais

      Different criminal; different motives.
      Smarten up.

    • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

      Hey, Doofus. The ORIGINAL point brought up by Twitchy was that legal gun owners were the ones at risk due to this publication of names and addresses.

      Now please get off the laptop before mom gets home.

  • TEXANONLY

    publish everything on these people , where they live, where there kids go to school , everything, its time people , stop sitting back and fight these people

  • Guest

    It looks as though the journal cage liner owes everyone that doesn’t already own one, a gun safe. And for those uncomfortable remaining in their homes outted by that rag, a new place to live. With the right lawyer, that could all happen. #BankruptTheJournal

  • tramky

    Could any news outlet publish the names and addresses, and vehicle makes and models, from state vehicle registrations? I’m sure car thieves would love that. The publisher of this rag should be thrown in prison for incitement of crimes. Human scum, pure and simple.

  • http://twitter.com/AngryTwitch T. Baguette Jones

    Is posting the phone numbers of UC Santa Cruz students just as outrageous? Or what about Free Republic posting the address of a 12yo Graeme Frost and then someone went snooping at their property? Creepy isn’t it? Guess who did this? Michelle Malkin….anyone?

  • tramky

    It’s my view that firearms registration is unconstitutional and VERY dangerous. It is the first step of confiscation by government and, as this demonstrates, by criminals. Actually, when it comes to this, they are one and the same.

  • orringtonmom (D)

    while i appreciate the sheriff’s plea on behalf of corrections officers and other public servants that have to deal with the criminal population, the paper did no favors to women and men with abusive partners, and/or stalkers.

  • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

    All of you keep telling me that one gun owner should be able to stop crime. You also told me that all of the mass shootings have happened in “gun free” zones or some such nonsense. That if the crooks knew the people had guns, they wouldn’t target them. Now you are saying that they are being targeted BECAUSE they have guns? Really? Make up your minds. And also tell me why this “gun owner” didn’t shoot the burglars.

    • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/ dmacleo

      they were not home you dumbass. and they are not allowed to (usually) carry the gun on them, they have to leave them locked up at home.

      and most of us said these homes would be targeted specifically to steal the guns.

    • LadaMokusa

      Burglary is considered illegal entry into a building; the owner does not have to be there for the crime to occur. Encountering the owner or a nosy neighbor is risky – so burglars do a little ‘research’ to lessen the risk, just like they do ‘research’ to maximize their opportunities for success. If you want to burglarize a house to obtain guns, then you go where you can find guns – and the handy Journal map provides that information, so some of your homework is done for you. If you don’t want guns – or to run into someone who does have them – then again, that handy Journal map tells you who is less likely to have firearms around (although I’m not sure if rifles and shotguns have to be registered in NY State, so as a burglar you might still be taking a risk that the house you break into belongs to someone with a cache of arms that don’t require registration and therefore, didn’t turn up on the Journal map).

      It isn’t a question of deciding between two options (are people being targeted because they have guns? or because they don’t have guns?) because one is correct and the other isn’t – both of them are equally valid. It depends on the criminal’s goal and how they elect to achieve it.