Constitutional law professor in NYT op-ed: Abandon 'archaic and evil' Constitution; Yglesias, libs agree

Wait, what?

That must be something from The Onion, right? Nope.

In another case of self-parody, an op-ed published in The New York Times calls for the abandoning of The Constitution of the United States.

From the appalling op-ed, penned by Louis Michael Seidman, a professor of constitutional law at Georgetown University, and titled “Let’s give up on the Constitution“:

But almost no one blames the culprit: our insistence on obedience to the Constitution, with all its archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil provisions.

It goes on to mock our “obsession” with The Constitution.

Silly rubes, “obsessed” with our founding document and the rights delineated therein! The evil and archaic provisions?

When you’ve lost Glenn Greenwald …

There is no clearer barometer than that, is there?

Indeed. The shake fisty is strong with this one, even though it shouldn’t be surprising.

Alas, liberals really are embracing the article. Seriously.

That’s right, including the always inane Slate’s Matt Yglesias, who starts mumbling about “some bad stuff” in the Constitution. Stuff and things! And it’s super old or something.

And Glenn Greenwald is giving him, and others, the business.

Here he goes.

Yes, some of the Constitutuion should remain, if the law professor deems them suitable. Anything that will aid sweet, sweet liberal policy? Still totally awesome and not “archaic.”

The sane (hint: Not Yglesias) weigh in.

Again, not all is evil and archaic. Just the stuff with which he doesn’t agree.

Heh. Will the Fishwrap of Record listen? Doubtful.


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  • Im_Rick_James
    • mdtljt

      Thanks Rick!! Can’t wait to give him a piece of my mind…and refer him to several REAL Constitutional Attorneys I know just up M Street from him…on both sides of the aisle…they’ll ream him a new one for free and smile while they do it!!!

  • PennyRobinsonFanClub

    What a flaming moron. He needs a new job right away, preferably involving deep-fat friers.

    • mdtljt

      Only if he throws himself into one daily…

    • john1v6

      I wouldn’t trust him with my french fries

  • Tom Bannigan

    They could renounce their citizenship at anytime.

    • TocksNedlog

      Damn! You beat me to it.

    • bluewaternavy

      Better yet-let’s send them to a country more to their liking. North Korea comes to mind.

      • 1CatEye

        Better yet, put them all in a boat with a big storm coming on, and shove them off.

    • Elilla Shadowheart

      They could also march straight into North Korea while they’re at it. But they’re much happier wrecking things at home. Could never figure out the whole self-destructiveness of it all, maybe it’s self-loathing and anger of not getting to the top so they take it out on everyone else.

  • FilleGitane

    If you need another reason to buy one or more of those “scary guns” here it is:

    • Cal

      If I didn’t know any better, I’d suspect satire.

  • almarquardt

    Yet another reason I will encourage my son to go to trade school instead of a university. It’s no wonder so many people have no idea what the Constitution says or means. Yikes.

    • SpinMeNot

      I remember back in the day when vocations such as mechanic, carpenter and machinist were looked on as honorable professions. Kids spend 4 years in school getting a vocational degree (such as industrial engineering technology) and then discover that they when they get a job, they are going through training whereas folks that went to a trade school are on the line day 1 turning out useful widgets, building houses, or fixing cars.

      Somebody around here (perhaps Mr. Jim Williams) put forth an interesting thought the other day about this being primarily driven by “fairness and equality” that the blue collar worker needs to be paid the same as the white collar worker.

      Good for you Mrs. Marquardt, this country needs skilled workers that believe in the American way of life and the American Dream.


      • Catchance

        I do agree with you, but I’d like to say that if you think the blue collar worker isn’t being paid the same as the white collar worker, you probably haven’t had a plumber come to your house recently… or had your car in the shop for repairs. :-)

        • SpinMeNot

          No I have, its kind of annoying … look at the rate you pay the shop, and rate the average mechanic makes and they don’t line up. Can’t say for plumbing, I do my own. I gave up working on cars years ago – you seem to need specialized tools and diagnostic equipment more and more, and the tools / diagnostics were more then the parts.

        • 1CatEye

          Over $100 per hour for a mechanic. Of course, I couldn’t do it, so I have to pay them. That’s why I have a 10 year warranty on my car.

          • arrow2010

            Yeah right every single auto mechanic makes $100/hour, especially the ones who work at Jiffy Lube or the local auto dealership.

  • RblDiver

    I daresay the, shall we say, “Constitutional Law Professor-In-Chief” agrees with this fellow “Constitutional Law Professor”‘s op-ed. Recall: “Well, it turns out our Founders designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change that I would like sometimes.”

  • David Crosby

    “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”

    Patrick Henry

    • carla5731

      It’s a concept, beautiful in its simplicity, that’s lost on too many Americans.

      • Jim Russell

        Maybe because it’s ‘Professors’ like this one who’ve been teaching younger generations something he clearly doesn’t understand himself.

        The Professor: “As someone who has taught constitutional law for almost 40 years, I am ashamed it took me so long to see how bizarre all this is.”

        This character is so bizarre he actually thinks we would believe he just came to these liberal/leftist conclusions regarding the Constitution. Why do liberals hate the Constitution? Let me ans: because it defines what the Gov’t CAN’T do. It is EXCEPTIONAL….and the reason America IS exceptional.

      • Red Fred

        Okay, I know this will get down votes, but the Constitution doesn’t give us these rights, God does. The Constitution protects them. If this guy is an atty. he should be disbarred. IF he is an atty. he has sworn an oath to protect the Constitution of the United States.

        • 1CatEye

          He probably isn’t an attorney. At least half my law school professors couldn’t pass a Bar Exam if it WAS in a bar.

        • EastValleyConservative

          It should be no surprise to anyone he is in good company with Obama. Obama was a constitutional scholar as well—he didn’t study it to uphold it, he studied it to subvert it.

    • $38218625

      Get rid of the Constitution?

      Does this mean we can rid ourselves of the metastasizing behemoth born of the document that is destroying our Liberty?

      The Feral Government.

  • SanDiegoMerchantServices

    Let’s start with “the right to an abortion”

  • walterc

    I thought that’s what we were doing under this administration. I’m no Constitutional professor from Chicago, but I would think giving guns to foreign criminals would be un Constitutional under that whole aiding and abetting the enemy part.

    • TocksNedlog

      You are no “Constitutional professor from Chicago,” and neither is Obama.

  • BlueGood

    America, if you abandon your Founding Father’s excellent Document, you might as well “Crown O’Blamo as Crazy King George the IV” and start all over….

    Invest in MORE precious metals….Steel, Brass & Lead!

    You know, whenever Quebec starts getting really annoying with their demands, Most Conservative Canadians challenge them to 2 outa 3 on the Plains of Abraham….funny they haven’t taken us up on it yet….

  • Steve_J

    Without the Constitution what is to stop the United States from indulging in its own “cultural revolution”?

    • SpinMeNot

      I would offer contemporary history as proof we already are undergoing a cultural revolution. I believe the question is at what point does the right join the battle?

  • TocksNedlog

    Article VI, Section 2
    “This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land”
    — And now we have a LAW PROFESSOR saying “Law? Shmaw!”

    • SpinMeNot

      Not that surprising, the Anointed One, BHO, their lord and savior, has shown nothing but contempt for the law, and he too lectured Constitutional Law.

      As I’ve said before — I’m through being polite, and I will add to it, I am through having my Constitutional Rights legislated and/or interpreted away. I shall not go quietly into the darkness the left, and through tacit collusion, the sheep, are bringing to this nation.

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        BHO was only a senior faculty advisor, not an actual professor.

        • SpinMeNot

          Mrs. Adams — yes, I wasn’t sure of his exact title, therefore went with Lecturer. But thank for you for providing his correct title. Back in my academic days, being a lecturer was a catch all term for the lowest rung of the academic ladder. Senior Faculty Adviser may be higher than the lecturer catch all, but not by much I suspect.

      • TWG2A

        B.O. (or B.S. for Soetero) the so-called “Constitutional Scholar” (hardy har har) studied OUR Constitution only to learn how to destroy it. Why are these anti-American, FASCIST, marxist, socialist, communists and convicted domestic terrorists allowed to stand and spew this trash and these lies at the pulpits in each and every “school” and university across this Nation? Why don’t parents care enough about their children to keep these dangerous vermin away from them? Why are parents handing over their own children to those beasts, aiding and abetting the brainwashing and total destruction of this once great Nation? WHY DON’T PARENTS CARE ABOUT THEIR OWN CHILDREN AND ABOUT THIS NATION?

        • 1CatEye

          I don’t think he actually studied it; otherwise, why can’t we see his transcripts?

          • SpinMeNot

            My guess is that his grades were lower than GWB grades. And you can’t be the smartest POTUS ever, if the man demonized by you and your party turns out to have higher grades than you.

            After all, BHO said $498B in deficit was unpatriotic and un-American — but $1.4T is “investing in our future”. There seems to be evidence of a cognitive ability issue there.

            Just sayin … I don’t think there is a big conspiracy.

        • SpinMeNot

          What you see is the fallout of parents that were also indoctrinated by the public education system. They don’t see anything wrong with what their children are being taught.

          • mdtljt

            I’m not contradicting what you’re saying, Spin, especially since I pretty much agree with everything you post, but there are those of us who, by virtue of our situations, have to send our kids to public school…but inoculate our treasured gifts by teaching them the vitals: honest history, the Declaration of Independence, Constitution of the United States of America, the Bill of Rights and Amendments to the Constitution and how the area in which we live – Wilmington, NC – played a vital role in every step of our march toward a free nation. Being Southern, I also teach her the good, bad and ugly – the Civil War, Reconstruction, Jim Crow Laws, the KKK, the fight for Civil Rights, the really crappy stuff that happened to those who were doing their duty & obligation as citizens of the United States of America…age-appropriate no-holes-barred history…unfortunately it seems those who have been elected have absolutely no clue about this country’s life-affirming, freedom affirming battles…be they carried out with guns, pens or great masses saying, “THIS IS WRONG!!” They will, unfortunately, try to erase said history…and, as a result, be required to relive it…bless their hearts…

          • SpinMeNot

            Then as I occasionally say, *hat-tip*! You are the one thing that can inoculate this nation from the disease that is liberal-progressive thought. Never surrender, never stop fighting.

    • 1CatEye

      Remember, Zero was a “law professor” (actually, a visiting lecturer, who had just about ZERO attendance in his classes).

      • TocksNedlog

        His classes were so bad …
        “How bad were they?”
        Obama’s classes were so bad, his students came out of them knowing LESS about the Constitution than they did before they went in!

  • spiv

    Same type that rails against the electoral college, unless it’s in their favor.

  • $30423294

    Here’s a “bipartisan” compromise we can all live with! Ready?

    You libs can renegotiate the terms of the Constitution in response to current circumstances…

    And we patriots can renegotiate the terms of Union Contracts in response to current circumstances…

    There you go. These documents are living, breathing documents after all!

    Let’s roll!

  • TocksNedlog

    As Twitchy said, when you’ve lost Glenn Greenwald, a liberal (not moderate) pundit, that’s when you know that you’re really out there in the left-wing weeds.

  • Everybodys All American

    If the liberals want to try living without a Constitution there are plenty of countries they can go to. In fact I’m sure they will love the winters in North Korea. Summers in Venezuela, Cuba, or Burma (whatever they call it). The bottom line is leave my country alone. You are destroying it as we speak and the stupidity is annoying.

  • Shawn Smith

    What do we call power without limits or authority? Oh yeah, tyranny! We call it tyranny!

    That’s what liberals want.

    • mdtljt

      Hhhhmmmmmmm….now correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that why the Revolutionary War happened in the first place?!?!? Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it…and We The People will kick their collective asses AGAIN

  • Cal

    People still read the NYT?

  • Bob Smooper

    Typical liberals! They hate the constitution! We need to start a campaign to get a new amendment to the constitution added. And that amendment is:

    “Anyone who suggests abandoning the constitution should be executed for treason.”

    That will shut those losers up in the LAME STREAM MEDIA!

    PALIN – WEST 2016! BRING IT ON!!

    • Garth Haycock

      Now I understand your game and apologize for any and all nasty comments to you. Well done!

    • lainer51


  • bluewaternavy

    C’mon, folks…do we expect anything less from the NYT? Disgusting as it is, this is what they have been espousing for years.

  • Booker

    You know. Liberals think that we get all kooky when we talk about these slippery slopes. And then, a NYT op-ed writer goes off an pens this garbage. Thanks for verifying your intentions once again, liberals. FORWARD!

  • Jay McHue

    Michael Moore has been posting recently about repealing the 2nd
    Amendment. He claims doing so won’t prevent people from owning guns. He
    also says that all auto and semi-auto weapons should be confiscated. I
    guess we’ll be left with muskets.

    • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

      I still have my compound and recurve bows.

    • TWG2A

      I hope that prick is the one who comes to “confiscate” MY guns. Why does that repulsive slob even have a voice on this issue?

  • dralfredbellows

    I think the most amazing part of this story is the fact that people are still reading op-eds in the NYT.

    “If a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there, does it make a sound?”

  • Sebastian Kelly

    John Galt? Please find me. I want to come with you!

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    Hey, you know, I think Harvard is an outdated and old institution. Maybe we should tear it down and build a Wal-Mart in its place. Put in a McDonald’s and a Starbucks too. Maybe a Gold’s Gym as well. Make better use of the land.

    • Todd Hill

      After all, Harvard was founded by a bunch of ancient religious-zealot type white guys, and as such the institution would be imbued with all the “archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil” beliefs of its founders. Surely a progressive society could only benefit from the elimination of said institution, although advanced basket weaving and beer brewing curricula may be worth saving…

      • mdtljt

        Yeah…how does he reconcile working at a university founded by the Jesuits – OMG RELIGION!!! – and still spew this crap??? Hypocritical much?!?!?

        • SpinMeNot

          you have a problem recognizing irony and sarcasm? Public education much?

          • mdtljt

            Not at all, Hon…this tripe is, unfortunately, not irony or sarcasm…oh, and if you want to bash public education, have at it…yours may have sucked, mine didn’t …bless your heart…

  • An American Veteran

    I took an Oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, I will not abandon that Oath, I will defend it with my life.

    • mdtljt

      Thank you…for your service to our nation and for your continued adherence to your oath. While I have never served, I stand shoulder to shoulder with you in defense of our Constitution…my daughter, my father, my family and my country deserve nothing less…

    • SpinMeNot

      Foreign and domestic … hooah!

  • George Washington Mclintock

    Glen freaking Greenwald isn’t even close to their craziest progressive on twitter?!!!?? That is astounding and unsettling The endgame is out in the open and it’s going to be launched from Academia. We have to hound them, and show them no mercy when it comes to exposing them.

  • BeeKaaay

    Sounds like they’re clamoring for ANOTHER enabling act!

  • Garth Haycock

    I didn’t think it was possible to find a constitutional law professor who was a bigger idiot that Eric Posner – he of “free speech is overrated” fame – but along comes Seidman.

    With professors like those two, it’s obvious that Georgetown and Chicago are two vastly overrated law schools.

  • TWG2A

    These vermin are slithering THROUGHOUT the “education” system. This guy isn’t the only one spewing this crap. The entire system is CRAWLING with these hateful, fascist-loving little beasts. Parents don’t give a damn about their children. That’s why they will eagerly hand them over to “the system” to be brainwashed and taught to hate their own Nation. They’re taught lies (Many actually believe this Nation is a DEMOCRACY and not a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC!) and they’re taught to embrace their enemies and to vote for their own demise. They’re creating armies of glassy eyed, brainwashed idiots by the MILLIONS, churning them out into our society. With nary a whimper from those so-called “caring parents”. For over eight years now, I’ve been out here fighting every day, all day, for NOTHING. I thought people would actually stand up and fight with me, but when they don’t even care that their children are brainwashed and destroyed, why should I expect them to care enough about America to fight for Her? The number of concerned citizens speaking out against these indoctrination camps is in the hundreds, which is completely insignificant in the big picture. Even though I know that 2013 is going to be a horrid year, and some very dark ad dangerous days ahead, I have made my last New Years resolution—— I AM FINISHED FIGHTING FOR EVERYONE ELSES CHILDREN, WHEN THEY DON’T EVEN CARE ENOUGH TO FIGHT FOR THEIR OWN. Nothing will get better until those damned indoctrination camps are ABOLISHED and those “educators” are brought to trial, convicted and PUNISHED ACCORDINGLY for what they’ve done to our children and to this once great Nation. I’M DONE, because I’m not going to fight anymore when I see now that this is a totally lost cause. “Parents” who allow their children to be brainwashed and molded into glassy eyeds by these horrid beasts should be ASHAMED of their dereliction of their duties as PARENTS. I blame careless parents, “educators” and politicians for America’s demise. AND I BLAME YOU ALL EQUALLY.

  • disqus_FpRJZ96WR5

    He’s right. Freedom of speech needs to go. Right, Professor? Oh, wait…

  • NickGranite

    Well, there’s a good idea. Blow up the constitution and the collective thoughts of Adams, Jefferson, Franklin etal for….the brain numbing ramblings of Pelosi, Reed and Obama. What could go wrong?

  • Michael Rice

    It’s 29 years late, but “1984” is soon to be here.

  • CR

    Perhaps this author should go first and show us how giving up your constitutional rights is done. I strongly suggest he show us all how this works by giving up his right to freedom of the press and shutting his ignorant mouth…

  • Peyton

    Reasonably free? There is no such thing as reasonably free.

  • TWG2A

    “It’s not that they’re stupid. They just know so much that isn’t true.”

  • $35072932

    A Liberal Comes Clean: We Hate the Constitution

    In some cases the general wording of clauses of the Constitution (like the Fourth Amendment’s “unreasonable” search and seizure clause) does require exercising judgment about how to apply the text to changing circumstances and technology. But then there are those pesky clauses written with sufficient specificity (such as the “embarrassing” Second Amendment—as some liberals call it) that not even the inventive Cass Sunstein can find a clever interpretive workaround to generate the desired liberal result. At such times this impulse yields to the suspicion that many liberals don’t really like the Constitution at all, and would junk it if they could.

    The article is really not worth bothering with further. There’s active commentary about it going on all over the blogosphere today. (Start with Jonathan Adler and Wesley Smith if you are a glutton.) As I sometimes like to say, “Our Constitution may not be perfect, but it’s better than the government we’ve got.” Those “evil” and “archaic” provisions are why, despite 100 years of largely successful “Progressive” assault against our constitutional principles, the United States is still the freest nation in the world.

    Let’s hope the higher education bubble breaks first and hardest at our intellectually corrupt law schools.

  • lana ward

    If you don’t like the Constitution–GET THE F*** OUT OF AMERICA