Map of the unarmed: NY newspaper's gun permit map was a Christmas gift to criminals

Christmas came early for thieves, thugs and rapists this year, thanks to  the New York Journal News.

As Twitchy reported on Christmas Eve, the lower Hudson Valley newspaper published an online map — complete with names and addresses — highlighting thousands of Rockland and Westchester County residents with gun permits. The shameful attempt to intimidate legal gun owners in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre sparked widespread outrage among Second Amendment advocates.

As many Twitter users noted, the map may have put vulnerable people who don’t own guns at even greater risk. The “real reporters” at the Journal News might as well have placed neon arrows pointing to all the homes without firearm permits. For murderers, robbers and others who victimize the defenseless, it reads like a crime spree itinerary.

Could we see a post-Christmas rush on handgun permit applications in Westchester and Rockland?

  • engineman55

    The result of this “LIST” being published, should be to assign a conspiracy charge against the Journal News, any time a crime is committed by someone who has stolen one of these LEGALLY owned firearms, and used it in a killing or assault. Other than that, the unarmed readers of this publication should help bring about the Journal News’ swift decline and fall in the same manner as Newsweek.

    • MissDiane47

      I think I understand where you’re coming from – kinda like “yelling fire in a crowded theater.” Very good point!

    • kindamara

      Maybe Journal News should also be held accountable and liable for any thefts, robberies or kilings against these home owners.

    • Rightturn

      Yeah I’m a real American Patriot, and I hate free speech as well. Those constitutional amendment thingies are hard!!

      • PennyRobinsonFanClub

        LOL, trollfail.Yeah, it’s not like somebody was posting movies on Youtube or something, right?

        Actually not. In this case, there could in fact be reasonably – established proximate cause and criminal liability (thems lawyer words.)

        • raoul duke

          Criminal liability for aggregating public information? That’s cute. What a vivid imagination you have.

    • DaleVM14W

      Maybe trash their building? They are many hacks in newsrooms today, no real reporters left.

    • Tom Bannigan

      Charge the journalist with aiding and abeding in the crime.

  • $30423294

    Will trial lawyers encourage a class action suit against the journalist and the newspaper? I’m no lawyer, but this sure seems like reckless endangerment, which falls under tort law, yes?

    Oh what am I thinking, they’re all democrats. The lawyers and the journalists. The trial lawyers will stick to attacking job creators like tobacco farmers, medical device manufacturers, and pharmaceutical companies.


    • Ronald

      I think it would be hard to make any charges stick. The information published was already publicly available for anyone who cared to look it up. However, it could be argued that by making it easier to see who is armed and who is not will result in direct criminal activities. Then you would be forced to prove that actual damages occurred, and that those damages were a direct cause of the information the media offered up. Not impossible, but surely very difficult.

      The real question in my mind, is IF that information should be public at all.

    • Tom Bannigan

      Possibly even child endangerment?

  • louisiana_mom

    And we can be assured when the increase of crimes on the non-armed homes occurs the Ministry of Truth will cover it up… doesn’t fit the narrative and hold them responsible.

    • Ellen K

      That would be doubleplusungood. But I can’t help but think about those brainwashed liberal children who will suffer at the hands of evil doers for the sake of PC values.

      • PennyRobinsonFanClub

        Ooh ooh I know! Any reports of increased crime will be blamed on RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACISM!!!!!!

  • Charm4sure

    What is it about “gun free zones” that libs can’t wrap their mind(??) around?

    • louisiana_mom

      It has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with control. They want to control every aspect of your life and it will be easier once we are all unarmed, look at the control Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and many many others had over their people.

      • Ronald

        Control is key. Agreed. Those in control don’t really care about liberal or conservative labels. Those in control just like to make it seem as if there are choices, but the choices are mostly false — with the possible exception of some minor issues. The “my side is better” mentality allows those in power to avoid being brought to task. Divide and conquer: That is the name of the game.

  • Ellen K

    In their zeal to honor politically correct cohorts, they offered their friends up as sacrificial lambs to the slaughter. More reason than ever to get a gun. BTW, did they not consider the large number of unregistered guns filtered in by drug cartels and the like? Of course not because that would be circumspect and thoughtful.

    • RightThinking1

      To the Left, their ‘principles’ are everything. It does not matter that the ‘principles’ are ill-conceived. It does not matter that the ‘principles’ are epistemologically void. It does not matter that the consequences of like ‘principles’ have worked against the well-being of The Republic. It matters only only that their weak minds have been possessed by an ideology which has brought about a non-thinking, ego-involved allegiance to that ideology.
      It has been my experience that nothing short of a life-changing personal experience will alter the way that they think…., and sometimes, even that doesn’t work.

      • Ronald

        That could be said of any ideologue. The real challenge in human thinking is to avoid positions that are unchanging. Unfortunately there are people on both sides of the fence that will never change their minds no matter what.

        • PennyRobinsonFanClub

          Err, the point is that principles do not change.

          • Catchance

            Exactly! Thank you.

  • Wag_a_muffin

    What about abused women who didn’t want their stalkers/abusers to have their address?

    • $30423294

      This is a very good point. Many gun owners purchase their guns specifically because they either have been victims of violent crime, or are being threatened.

      What a terrible injustice this is, on so many levels.

  • Conservative First

    Guess who’s not on that list…. people who violate gun control laws and illegally own guns, like the felon who killed the firefighters… just saying

    • TugboatPhil

      Exactly! I’ve noticed there’s also been no mention (that I’ve read anyway) of why he was out of prison in 17 years for bludgeoning his grandmother.

  • $8203344

    The paper is an accomplice in ANY robbery and/or home invasion. If I lived in any of these areas I’d file a civil suit against this publisher.

  • Donald Borsch Jr.

    Okay, so…if the argument is that since guns are available, it causes people to then do evil deeds since the gun empowers them to do so. On this logic, could it not be said that petty criminals, skittish at first, will now feel emboldened because this map shows them where to go?


    Would there be public outcry if instead a map was presented showing the homes NOT having a resident who has a legal gun permit? Hmmm…

  • Caveat Empty

    New wrinkle — seems the ‘official listings’ weren’t entirely up to date, and there’d been a number of home sales. No doubt the new owners are sooooo happy to have been included.
    Fact-checking indeed ..

  • Everybodys All American

    This is your typical Obama voter. Dumber than an empty box.

  • Donald Borsch Jr.

    The Unarmed American List 2012. Simple. Give us your name and address if you are not a legal gun permit holder. I mean, turnabout is fair play, yes? Oh, and those in Rockland, Westchester, and Putnam Counties in NY State need not respond. We already know who YOU are.

  • AaronHarrisinAlaska

    Glad to see twitchy removed that garbage posted by irresponsible individuals. If gun grabbers want to play dirty then let them. We beat them honestly before with out the need to resort to preschool antics.

  • $35072932

    6 Home Defense Carbines, 5 are NOT AR’s
    Ruger Mini-14
    Ruger Mini-30
    It’s a Mini-14 that shoots a 7.62×39 so all of the above for the 14 applies.
    Winchester 94 Trapper, Puma 92, Marlin 1894
    M1 Carbine – .30 Carbine
    Hi-Point Carbine
    This is the least expensive gun on the list with a suggested retail price of $285.
    AR Platforms
    Ahhhh….the Black Rifle, the hottest selling thing since Bill Clinton decided that they should be restricted. There are too many brands and configurations to cover in this article and prices range from $650 to as much money as you can muster. If you have one, tell us what you like, what you don’t and what you probably should have bought instead for the benefit of our shooting community.

    • PennyRobinsonFanClub

      Gotta disagree, just on the one point the article makes — you neither need nor want all the extra mileage a carbine round is going to take. That’s something I have to think about with kids in the house,, and for that matter, other peoples’ houses around. One of the best suggestions I have heard for home defense is a shotgun loaded up first with two wire-shrapnel shells — one of which will stop 90% of people in their tracks and is non-deadly, and the second one of which will bring the tally to 98%, then a charge of birdshot for the ones who just won’t listen to reason. For the last couple individuals who insist on being completely unreasonable, push up the slack space with good ol’ double – aught.

      • Guest

        “…one of which will stop 90% of people in their tracks and is non-deadly”

        Why would one want a potential rapist/murderer intruder into one’s home NOT dead?

  • George Washington Mclintock

    Gun control moonbats ignore libraries of evidence about how gun bans lead to societal chaos. Deny such chaos exists in gun ban countries. Gun control moonbats ignore libraries of evidence that criminals make extensive use of just the sort of info that these scumbags published. Deny they did anything reckless. I’m starting to see a pattern here.

  • Ronald

    An oft argued pro for gun ownership is that criminals would be less likely to attack those who are armed. Those people have been identified by the map are theoretically even safer now from break-ins and robberies.

    I would not want to be one of those who do not show up on the map!

    • PennyRobinsonFanClub

      Not necessarily. They are more likely to be targets for anti-gun zealots, a la` Occupiers, who would simply harass them day in day out and make their lives miserable, or in the case of the more extreme types, hurl incendiary devices at the house or commit other types of potentially lethal vandalism.

      At the same time, since NY law makes it difficult for a homeowner to actually have his weapons kept in a useful state — I believe NY law is like unto MA law, where gun owners must keep firearms unloaded and trigger-locked in the home — any number of crooks might think they have the upper hand and try to break in and take over the home before anyone can get to a gun — or just watch for the house being empty. No, this is a no-win situation in every way conceivable.

      • Ronald

        Good points. Having a gun locked away at home is no real benefit to the owner in this situation. It sounds like a liability even! No-win is right.

  • clarioncaller

    The Gannett newspaper did the same thing that the Aurora, CO theater and the Sandy Hook, CT school did……declare the exact location of a “NO GUN” zone, thus giving the ‘bad guys’ a full barrel of fish. Cancel your subscriptions NOW.

  • BeeKaaay

    More proof that leftwingwackos are bloodthirsty. They’re helping bloodthirsty criminals on purpose here!

  • Terry Ringler

    Cancel subscription and put them out of business.

  • Kathy Skaggs

    This just what I said after this article came out. How stupid could they be letting the criminals know just where not to attack and at the same time telling them where they could attack without worry of being shot.

  • GTFOBigGovt

    FOIAs are inconsistent. I know of several communities who refused to release lists of DOG LICENSES to pet sitters claiming the information was proprietary.

    There’s some monkey business going on here with the agency IMO.

  • Mike Sullivan

    Agreed, stupid move which surely is going to backfire when the first robbery with a gun is recorded based on this hit list of unarmed homes, then watch the fireworks explode over gun rights. I have posted on my property that it is protected by armed homeowner for years, haven’t been robbed once in decades since first robbery. Thank God this list still leaves criminals to guess if a rifle is owned or not.

  • TWG2A

    Given the current “temperature” in this Nation right now, and the glassy eyed’s frothing at the snout to eliminate ALL civilian owned firearms, the media frenzy to promulgate this abhorrent infringement on our Bill of Rights, these “journalists” who instigate violence and create victims should be charged accordingly for their crimes.

  • lonestar

    If an unarmed homeowner get robbed, they should sue the newspaper and its writers.

  • OOOO

    Wonder if this newspaper has an armed guard at the door to protect them?? I understand the reporter who wrote this owns a S&W .357 magnum, wonder what he is protecting??

  • raoul duke

    So what’s the deal here? Are we all agreeing to pretend we don’t know you can own a rifle or shotgun in NY without a permit or are we genuinely clueless on this subject? I’m just trying to figure out which side of my mouth I need to drool out of in order to fit into the discussion here.

  • Infinite_Indeterminism

    My question is: What percentage will the newspaper people receive from their colleagues, the burglars ?

  • reags

    Make the White House respond to every petition that supports 2nd Amendment rights on their “We the People” website. Here’s another….

  • lcky9

    Here’s the thing.. I have a drivers license, library card, Gym Card, and FOID card (I live in the Republic of IL).. now which cards do I use?? Because I have a library card does NOT mean I take books out of it, nor because I have a gym card does it mean I work out.. therefore just because someone has a gun permit does not necessarily mean they have a gun, the fact that they printed who has a permit to legally have one does NOT mean they actually do.,. BTW as RAHM said they are going to do what they did to the smokers make it socially unacceptable to be a gun owner or to be Pro Gun..

  • People Corporation

    Lib logic – more maps of unarmed homes = less armed home invasion. Criminals prefer lever playing field.

  • AaronHarrisinAlaska

    Can we get a twitchy admin to remove this please? Or at least edit out home phone numbers and private addresses. Two wrongs don’t make a right and I’d rather not see reasonable people tempted to stoop to the unreasonable.

  • AaronHarrisinAlaska

    Same here. Unless the link contains only work contact info it presents more of a danger. The news of a dox drop by equally out raged conservanons isn’t surprising but it can be delivered with out potentially volitole links.

  • $23629333

    If you take a look in your cliche quiver, you might find “fight fire with fire.” That’s one of my favorites. My father taught it to me. When I – in anger at I don’t remember what – kicked the door, he kicked my (fill in blank).* After that first time, I never again kicked the door, or anything else in the house.

    There’s also the cliche “sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.” I – like Christopher Fountain – believe that that is quite appropriate in this case.

    (* for fear of offending the “twitchy admin,” I’ll leave it your imagination)

  • AaronHarrisinAlaska

    So immaturity is permissible when others are being immature? That’s your way of thinking? It’s excusable when your, say, five or six but we’re all adults. And as far as I can tell your none ones father on this list. So their ass isn’t for you to kick.

  • PennyRobinsonFanClub

    Agree, two wrongs don’t make a right, especially when possible criminal endangerment is at stake.

  • Infinite_Indeterminism


    The post I’m replying to, is an obvious commercial spam. Please obliterate it.
    Update: Thank you for reacting so promptly! Keep up the good work!