Michael Moore: Columbine's armed guards were no help

Unfortunately, the armed guards at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, were not able to prevent the murder of 12 students and 1 faculty member that occurred at the hands of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. The guards probably saved many lives, however. As Daniel Foster notes at National Review Online,

It isn’t like the deputy was sitting around eating doughnuts during the Columbine massacre. He traded fire (that is, he drew fire) with Harris for an extended period of time, during which Harris’s gun jammed. The deputy and the backup he immediately called for exchanged fire with the shooters a second time and helped begin the evacuation of students, all before the SWAT teams and the rest of the cavalry arrived, and before Harris and Klebold killed themselves in the library. Harris and Klebold had an assault plan — a sloppy plan, but a plan nonetheless. They had dozens of IEDs, some of which detonated, others of which did not. And there were two of them. In this highly chaotic tactical environment, the deputy acted both bravely and prudently, and who knows how many lives he saved by engaging Harris.

Does anyone seriously believe the students and staff of Columbine High School would have been better off if the deputies hadn’t been armed?

  • Bob Cordon

    Nurse, please take Mr. Moore to the Quiet Room. He’s out of control again. And double his meds tonight, please.

  • J.R. Salzman

    Says the guy protected by armed body guards.

  • Lexikin

    Go home Moore you’re drunk!

  • E Mims

    I’m curious. Is he deliberately lying, or is he so delusional he can’t see that an armed guard exchanging fire with Harris prevented Harris from shooting more kids/teachers?

    • TheLordRegent

      Take it from a former lefty: he’s lying.

  • Jack Deth

    Whenever Mr. Moore tries to be smug and sanctimonious. It always comes off badly.

    Then again, if Mr. Moore had been at Columbine during the tragedy. He could have effectively blocked off one corridor all by himself.

    • Frustrated Teacher

      When does Moore NOT try to come off as smug and sanctimonious? I would pay to see that!!

  • George Washington Mclintock

    Klebold and Harris’ victims were students who were surprised by their attack or trapped in the library when they suddenly retreated into it. They didn’t go back into the halls, or anywhere the cops who were covering the masses of students getting out.. Given the effort these two psychos had put into their plan, there should have been 100 people dead. The fact that there were 13 is horrendous, and yet it’s a testament to what an armed guard does in the face of killers equipped with explosives, body armor, and weapons.

  • BeyondPolls

    Basically, Michael Moore doesn’t really want kids to be protected. He’s just gunphobic.

    • TheLordRegent

      Why should he want them protected? Since the original 1990 gun-free school zone was introducted violent psychos and lefties have exploited these zones for their personal gratifaction and polictical gain, respectively.

      • BeyondPolls

        Exactly. They care nothing about kids. Rather, they care about undermining the Constitution.
        Public school zones are liberalism on display: they are Constitution-free zones in our country and look what happens on them.

  • https://jcrue.wordpress.com/ jcrue

    So I guess his hypocritical largeness is saying that no guards would have made for a more desirable result? what a twisted POS.

  • Purple State

    Mr. Moore doesn’t seem to be arguing that the students and faculty of Columbine would have been better off without the armed guards. He’s arguing that armed guards do not prevent mass shootings. That was LaPierre’s suggestion. Moore is pointing out that there are historical examples of mass shootings despite armed guards being present.

    • Joe W.

      That’s not what he said, pea brain. He inferred that they were of no help at all.

    • vino veritas

      If he was arguing that, then why doesn’t he just come out and say it? Perhaps because even he knows how factually wrong and ludicrous a statement like that would be. He and all fascists like him are flat out wrong on this issue and he is either severely ignorant or purposefully ignoring (much more likely) the many documented cases of on-site armed response teams or individuals preventing either mass shootings, deaths and/or severe casualties merely to further his own sick demented narcissistic agenda. It is his kind of politicization of this issue that this country does not need now nor do we ever need in the future.

      • Purple State

        He did come out and say it. “Armed guards in schools? Hmmmm… Oh! That’s why the 2 armed guards that were at Columbine HS that day were able to prevent the 15 deaths?”

    • Frustrated Teacher

      I love it when one person tries to ‘interpret’ what a liberal says for us to make more sense out of it. It really doesn’t help. We can read and interpret quite well and after all of his ignorant rants of late, we pretty well know where he stands on this type of issue. NO it won’t stop everything, but only an ignorant jackass would assert that having armed security in schools won’t help. Hey I hear Sidwell Friends is advertising for them…..

    • ceemack

      And plenty of historical examples of armed guards or armed civilians stopping mass shootings and preventing additional casualties.

      Whereas traditional “gun control” doesn’t seem to work at all, as there are plenty of examples of mass shootings happening under very tight gun restrictions.

      Not to mention mass murders that didn’t involve guns at all. How many guns did Timothy McVeigh use?

      • Purple State

        No one is saying that banning all guns will eliminate all violence. The point is, 3/4 of the mass shootings in America since 1982 were carried out with legally-obtained guns. The system has to do better, and it can.

  • disqus_bmrHxbMAhv

    Is he still holding Princess Leia captive?

  • BrotherMatthias

    I believe in armed guards at most public schools. The REASON folks are wrong on this.

  • Frustrated Teacher

    ONLY a liberal POS would make a statement like this. It is getting so his tweets reveal more and more of his ignorance about most issues. That’s what happens when you live the life of an insulated, rich, Hollywood Celeb. No, the guards didn’t prevent 13 deaths (they were trying for two, right?), but they may have prevented 50- 100. Math and reality is SOOOO hard in Progville USA!

  • http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/ Susan Duclos

    Also less might have died had they been at the doors instead of monitoring the “smokers pit”- Who assigned them to that duty?

  • jenndee

    Did that souless lib, just round up the death toll to make a point? Stay classy Michael.

  • http://OccupyBawlStreet.com OccupyBawlStreet.com

    yea, 1 day 1 of us has to get gobs of video of his security “detail” guns & whatnot…

  • MKFenris

    All in favor of making this waste of a human life go through training so he can get an idea of how the real world works, by deploying him to one of those countries he loves so much, say aye.

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  • Bob Smooper

    Moore does have a point. Kind of. But I do want to see armed democrats guarding schools. You cannot trust right-wingers: of course most of them are so spectacularly obese they wouldn’t be suitable. All that biscuits and gravy they eat while watching the moving picture box.

  • kiki

    The point of this post is that having armed security forces did NOT discourage crazies from going on a killing spree…….the NRA is suggesting armed forces as a way to prevent more mass killings at school. (More likely so they can sell more guns and make money) No one is arguing that the guard probably DID save lives by drawing some fire (notice that Klebold was still running around and not distracted). However, for having an armed presence already on the scene and backup almost immediately, there was still a high body count and many injuries. The point is, an armed guard is not going to be able to shoot the killer within seconds like some would believe. But I think I wound up on some bizarre site (googling Columbine and two guards to see if they were actually armed or not as some schools have unarmed security- mine did).