Gamers gunning for David Axelrod over objection to violent 'Hitman: Absolution' TV spot

As the first scraps of information about the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter — many of them incorrect — began to emerge online Friday afternoon, video game enthusiasts were dismayed to see headlines identifying Adam Lanza as an avid gamer.

Many found a violent, gun-filled ad for the film “Gangster Squad” broadcast during Sunday’s Colts-Texans game in poor taste, and former Obama senior advisor David Axelrod was similarly troubled by a post-game spot for the M-rated video game, “Hitman: Absolution.” Gamers were about as happy to be linked to gun violence as responsible gun owners are, and they let Axelrod know it, sometimes in violent terms.

Axelrod wasn’t completely alone in his opinion. Will a closer look at violent video games become part of the nation’s “conversation” on guns?

Those old enough to remember the efforts of the PMRC in the 1980s couldn’t help but be reminded of a certain former second lady.

Here’s a TV spot for the game.

http://youtu.be/NvrzZq9RQaI

  • POdVet

    Most children are fully aware of the difference between reality and movies/video games. The fact that their celebrity idols live with a total disregard for morals is much more influential on impressionable young minds.

    • Joe W.

      You have anything to back that statement up, or did you just pull it of your ass?

      • Saint_Zero

        Which part do you not like, the first sentence or the second? ‘Cause proving the second true is a trivial task.

        • Joe W.

          Your belief that “most children are aware of the difference between reality and TV”.. I know many children 10 years old who still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter bunny. Some get very frightened watching scary movies. That is why we have restrictions on what movies they are allowed to see. Your second sentence is spot on. Celebrities nor any liberals have any moral, in my view.

      • Saint_Zero

        Which part do you not like, the first sentence or the second? ‘Cause proving the second true is a trivial task.

      • lainer51

        what an intelligent retort.

  • Peyton

    I actually agree with Axe on the games thing. Including TV and movies. Sure, most people realize the difference, but most people also realized that they need to use guns safely. We need to find a way to keep the deranged from living outside reality, and these depictions of violence definitely don’t help.

    • Scott

      May not help but if we do away with things that MAY set different people off then every group will have something they want banned and that is not a road to travel.

    • AMSilver

      I agree that the level of violence in many movies and video games degrades our culture – and a degraded culture is going to lead to more violence. The conservative answer (I’m assuming you’re a conservative here, and am saying this not to accuse you of disagreeing, but to further the conversation) isn’t to have government make more laws and ban more things – it’s for parents to A) both be involved in their children’s lives, preferably as a married couple where they can both influence their children with positive values and be available to help their child figure out the answers to life’s questions and B) decide for themselves what is appropriate for their child and what influences they want in their household. Too many parents abandon their children either by having children with strangers or shack-ups who they have no commitment to – or by having both parents fully involved in work/hobbies/whatever that leaves no time for the interactions children need to learn morality. There’s no such thing as quality time when you don’t have the quantity of time necessary to develop a strong relationship. Parents who leave their child’s moral education up to a series of daycares, teachers, and electronics can’t be surprised when their children don’t have morals.

      • Peyton

        Excellent Point AM. I don’t want government to become involved in banning those things, but it is important to realize that they do degrade our society. Personally, I was thinking of something along the lines of PSA’s on violence and getting your kids help when they need it. Wouldn’t it be great if the lefties in Hollywood included a PSA on violence before every violent movie.

    • Blake Waymire

      The vast majority of video game violence is at least directed in the right direction. You’re usually facing a direct threat that requires violence to put down. For example, in Assassin’s Creed III most of the combat is against people who really need to be stopped, or in general battle against the British Army (it takes place during the Revolution and the main character is generally on the side of the Patriots). Most first-person shooters have you attacking a military threat as a member of a military, hardly uncommon in the real world.

      • dkhilly

        A rule in our house for games is that we won’t play games where if real life placed us in those circumstances, the actions of the game would be wrong…keeps us to puzzle games, and the honorable hero characters.

        • Blake Waymire

          That’s a good rule. Mind if I borrow it for when I have a family?

      • dkhilly

        A rule in our house for games is that we won’t play games where if real life placed us in those circumstances, the actions of the game would be wrong…keeps us to puzzle games, and the honorable hero characters.

    • TocksNedlog

      Perhaps, after we get every mentally ill person in the United States entered into the national database, we can then root out this problem with a multi-pronged strategy: send the ATF to remove every gun, violent video game and DVD that depicts violence from every home where a mentally ill person lives; issue every mentally ill person an ID card (with an RFID chip inside, of course) with the code-letter “C” on it so that movie theaters can deny admittance to any movies rated PG-13C or R-C (“crazies not admitted”); institute mandatory government blocking (to the homes of the mentally ill) of any and all tv channels* deemed likely to send an unstable person over the edge. Each of these measures is necessary because . . . think of the children!
      [*I predict MSNBC’s viewership would drop to 2 … Brent Bozell and Ann Coulrer.]

  • Jack Deth

    *Probing David Axelrod’s slimy, skeevy mind in a HazMat Suit*

    Can’t blame Hollywood. Too big of a cash cow for Democrat campaign coffers.

    Can’t blame pharmaceuticals. Again, too big of a contribution cash cow for the DNC.

    Can’t blame the degradation of the culture through movies, films and television.

    Gotta keep those decidedly liberal actors and actresses busy giving bucks to the DNC.

    Let’s blame something completely irrelevant.

    Like Autism, Asperger. Or a crappy First Person Shooter that spawned an even crappier film with Tim Olyphant!

    *Burning HazMat Suit. Looking for the Showers*

    • Bill

      Hitman isn’t a First Person Shooter.

  • EOD

    Video Games will go long before Guns will go.

    Guns are a Protected Right in Law… violent video games are not.
    Welcome to Reality Liberals.

  • MKFenris

    Video games aren’t too blame, not our fault that some parents are so stupid they let their kids play games like Grand Theft Auto or any number of other violent games which are aimed at adults. Most people use the games to let off steam because it helps them get some tendencies out of their system.

    And if they wanna take away the video games which are essentially interactive movies these days, they gotta ban the movies. Movies glorify violence more than the video games.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1305030431 Anna Klitzing

    Conservative young woman here. I wrote a ten page research paper about violent video games and how they absolutely do NOT correlate with violence. Many studies linked parenting issues — such as lack of responsibility, lack of emphasis on education, etc — with kids interpreting a skewed reality from these games. One study even pointed out how many parents ignorantly buy kids games that are NOT within their target age range as labeled on the packaging by the ESRB. May not be the popular opinion here, but I honestly don’t believe the average American child is influenced by these video games, especially if they are only playing those appropriate for their age. I grew up on Grand Theft Auto and other gory messes. I haven’t gone crazy yet… quit blaming the media instead of a lack of parenting, please.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1305030431 Anna Klitzing

    Conservative young woman here. I wrote a ten page research paper about violent video games and how they absolutely do NOT correlate with violence. Many studies linked parenting issues — such as lack of responsibility, lack of emphasis on education, etc — with kids interpreting a skewed reality from these games. One study even pointed out how many parents ignorantly buy kids games that are NOT within their target age range as labeled on the packaging by the ESRB. May not be the popular opinion here, but I honestly don’t believe the average American child is influenced by these video games, especially if they are only playing those appropriate for their age. I grew up on Grand Theft Auto and other gory messes. I haven’t gone crazy yet… quit blaming the media instead of a lack of parenting, please.

  • CombatDiver

    What’s weird is, Chicago has probably the 2nd strictest gun laws in the country and still has extremely high violent crime/murder rate. I’m sure all of the criminals acquired the guns legally because as the race pimp ” Revrend ” Jackson stated ( with facts to back up his claim ) buying a gun is easier than buying a cup of coffee.

  • CombatDiver

    What’s weird is, Chicago has probably the 2nd strictest gun laws in the country and still has extremely high violent crime/murder rate. I’m sure all of the criminals acquired the guns legally because as the race pimp ” Revrend ” Jackson stated ( with facts to back up his claim ) buying a gun is easier than buying a cup of coffee.

  • vino veritas

    The asinine fascists are attacking video games again huh, so what’s new? These vultures always take any horrible tragedy available and use it to push their despicable ignorant agenda. Too bad a coward like axelrod or the rest of his ‘ban everything I’m scared of and therefore don’t like’ crowd cannot be forced to step into a televised public forum to debate the gaming industry he lies about and misrepresents. If Mr senior propagandist and his unrelenting ‘stache’ had an iota of fact regarding Hitman Absolution or any of the games in the HItman series he would know that these are not FPS and they are certainly not meant to be played as run & gun shooters(ala true FPS like COD:Modern Warfare series or the Battlefield titles). ALL of the Hitman games are primarily stealth games (Absolution being more CQC oriented than previous titles) with multiple ways to resolve every situation however certain non-violent methods or minimally violent methods MUST be employed to receive the top rank of Silent Assassin during play through of each level, which in turn unlocks special weapon attachments, weapons, gear, etc that cannot be unlocked otherwise. Then there’s the deeply engrossing story/narrative in the series which dwarfs the best products you will ever find coming out of hollywood these days. The violence that happens in most current gen games is very story-relevant and not gratuitous, contrary to the lies of the anti-gaming zealots. Multiplayer mode (Absolution has an online Sniping Challenge option) in those FPS and non-FPS games that offer it is the only thing where violence could be arguably considered gratuitous, although the point of PVP (Player vs Player) game-play is obviously to best the other player or teams in various challenges. That can be violent or not depending on the type of game. That’s also called healthy competition and its probably one of the most sociable activities you can engage in these days (thanks to headset mics, the ability to save, edit and upload your team matches to social media sites, messaging and other comm methods) without having to be in direct contact with crowds of human beings for prolonged periods of time. So just how the hell is that a bad thing?

    BTW, I really hope that, in light of this, Square Enix or maybe some modders in the HItman community will create a mod mission where 47 goes after Axelrod and puts him in his place not with violence (although the option should be available, as it always is) but via 47’s normal methods of infiltration, information gathering, sabotage & blackmail. NO deaths, just a very embarrassed and exposed WH senior strategist (preferably left covering up those “loins” he’s so familiar with).

  • Jim Denney

    Don’t underestimate “Axe.” He successfully banned legitimate vote counting, so I’m gonna pick up some vids on my way to the gun store.

  • TocksNedlog

    The “stache with panache!” seems to be making a political calculation that gun-control advocates and players of violent video games are two disparate groups. As some of the tweets above clearly indicate, he is (pardon the expression) dead wrong about this.

  • $30423294

    It’s simple.

    Leftists and materialists believe societal ills are caused by what is in the hand.

    For example, a gun. Or a cigarette. Or a video game controller.

    Judeo-Christian faith holds that societal ills are caused by what is in the heart.

    Which way will you go, America? It’s time to choose. How has the leftist and materialist solution been working for you? It’s been about a hundred years and things seem to be getting worse.

    Give your Judeo-Christian heritage a genuine try. If you’ve abandoned the religion of your youth, give it another chance.

  • Lord Foggybottom

    That fatass Michael Moore is talking about mental health exams as a requirement before purchasing guns. If that’s the case, we should probably have mental health exams as a requirement for purchasing video games and watching/renting Hollywood’s movies too. I also suggest mental health exams before opening a twitter account or eating 7000 calories/day, but that’s just me.

  • Lady_Clare

    I’ll always remember years ago (this debate has been going on for
    decades) when Bill Cosby was crusading for something to be done about
    the violence on TV, long before gory video games were even possible.
    “They tell me that what people see on TV doesn’t influence them,” Cosby
    said. “Then why are they paying me so much to sell Jello?”

    How much more so grinding violent images into a child’s brain hours on end?

  • Maxwell

    Axelrod will withdraw his statement in a few days when he finds that most people who are hardcore gamers, and work in the game design industry tend to vote democrat.

  • BeeKaaay

    “All for curbing weapons of war.”

    So he’s all for outlawing abortion surgical utensils, which are used to kill innocents?

    NOPE!

  • lainer51

    didn’t crazy Uncle Joe tell his adoring crowd “they” want to put them BACK IN CHAINS…. is that the “toned-down” rhetoric that Barry espouses.