In wake of Conn. school massacre, President Obama calls for 'meaningful action'; Anti-gun zealots turn on White House for not politicizing shooting to their liking; Michael Bloomberg demands a plan

In a tearful statement to the press this afternoon, President Obama said that the nation needs to set politics aside and “come together and take meaningful action” to prevent future tragedies like today’s mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. Although he concluded by encouraging Americans to begin by extending a hand to those in need and offering prayers, many seized on those two earlier words, “meaningful action,” as a call for more strict gun control.

Radio host Randi Rhodes — notorious for skits featuring gunshot sound effects — was among those dissatisfied with the mere promise of “meaningful action.”

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg also felt that the president’s promise fell short and called out Obama and Congress for a lack of leadership on the issue.

Earlier in the day, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney had told reporters that there will be “a day for discussion of the usual Washington policy debates, but I do not think today is that day.” That statement, too, failed to satisfy many eager for the government to take action on guns — today.

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By late afternoon, people had gathered in front of the White House to demand action, many carrying Twitter-friendly signs promoting a #TodayIsTheDay hashtag.

How soon we’ll know exactly what the president meant by “meaningful action” is unsure, but as Carney had said, today is not that day.

  • jsgrill

    In Connecticut, it is illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to own a handgun.

    It is also illegal to carry a handgun outside the home without a permit.

    It is illegal to possess a firearm on public or private elementary or secondary school property.

    How much more “gun control” would have prevented today’s shooting?

    • kch50428

      It’s not about the gun, it’s about the control. These Liberals want no ownership of any kind of firearm. Period.

      • ERMERGERD

        Except criminals who would just get them from the black market.

        • Tom Bannigan

          And then make more victims.

          • TwitWit

            yep.. of all ages.

        • Rana

          Or the government itself. Fast and Furious come to mind?

      • MadPunter1963

        Unless you’re a mexican drug cartel. Then our liberal government will supply your firearms.

    • JannyMae

      Exactly. This school was a “gun free zone.” Who did that help besides the shooter?

    • bluewaternavy

      Precisely none! Evil and sick people do NOT follow laws-ever! So all “gun control” will do is hamstring the law abiding

    • mw

      if the mother didnt have a gun, she and the children would still be alive.

      • Maria Seeger

        If the mother didn’t have a gun, he would have killed her with a knife. And he could just as easily walked into the school and planted a bomb, since people knew who he was, and it’s easy enough to disguise a bomb if you know what you’re doing.
        Gun ownership is illegal in Mexico, yet the drug cartels kill thousands of innocents every day using guns and other means. Trust me when I say regardless of any laws, evil will always find a way to do what it wants.

        • Guest

          It’s the same tired argument which boils down to: Laws won’t work, because people break laws anyway. It’s a false premise, since laws DO work – and when they do not, they should be evaluated and revised based on good evidence.

          Also, guess where the mexicans get those guns. America. It is the proliferation of guns that makes the cartel violence possible.

        • mw

          really? a bomb? youre an idiot. do you think this 22 year old would have the capacity to build a bomb? these idiots use guns because they are impulsive and quick and you dont need to plan a gun spree as long as you already have guns and ammo. yes, he could have stabbed his mother but he wouldnt have been able to kill nearly as many innocent kids.

          and re: Mexico. totally different country and this kid and the gun accidents in the US are due to stupidity, not drug wars.

          we have way more deaths and guns per capita than the every developed country. see a pattern? we are more dangerous to ourselves than if you lived in the West Bank & Gaza. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

    • http://twitter.com/davidwcrosby David Crosby

      for if all law abiding citizens had no guns,..they say it would have been harder to do this. They seem to cheer when unborn babies are killed,,,didn’t the Prez vote “present” on an IL St bill that would make it legal to give treatment to babies that survived late term abortions? I am sickened by this tragedy but like you said, more “gun control” isn’t the answer.

    • Carathon

      It’s not about “gun control”. It’s about banning guns. Liberals can never be honest with what their true intentions are.

      • Guest

        Ban the guns. All of them. There, how’s that for honesty?

        • Lady_Clare

          Works for meth, so it ought to work for guns, right?

          • Guest

            So any law that is broken is not a law worth having? Is that it? So what, we should legalize meth because there are people breaking the law? It’s a silly argument to point to law breakers and then say, “it didn’t stop the bad guys, so we shouldn’t make new laws.”

          • WisconsinPatriot

            Your “logic” escapes me. New laws just make “smart people” like you feel good. Responsible citizens, such as myself realize that the feel good nonsense you practice is actually making us LESS safe. Gun free zones are the biggest case in point. Law abiding CITIZENS do not massacre the innocent. Nutcases (who are smart enough to go hunting in a gun free zone) do. Laws do not ever STOP anything from happening. Liberal policies on the mentally ill are also partly to blame due to the fact that they allow the deranged to roam the streets to do their evil.Your worldview simply damages all who come into contact with it. How many more massacres will the liberal/progressive movement facilitate before they are stopped? Only time will tell.

          • Guest

            If liberal policies on the mentally ill are partly to blame they should be evaluated and changed based on good evidence. See how easy that is? It’s called change. It’s not as scary as you might think.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

            So, you believe in punishing the majority for the acts of the majority? You do realize that some people own firearms because they cannot depend on the police to come to their assistance, quickly enough, in an emergency, right? Move to the swamps of South Carolina and have an alligator kill one of your dogs who was standing beside one of your children and tell me how vile a firearm is.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

            So, you believe in punishing the majority for the acts of the majority? You do realize that some people own firearms because they cannot depend on the police to come to their assistance, quickly enough, in an emergency, right? Move to the swamps of South Carolina and have an alligator kill one of your dogs who was standing beside one of your children and tell me how vile a firearm is.

        • Ron Morisseau

          dumb azz it didn’t mater to this guy who killed 38 elementary school children…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

          • Jon Castle

            Yes. And the strict gun control laws that exist in Norway did a great job of preventing the Oslo Norway massacre where 73 people were murdered in cold blood. Yes… gun control works VERY well.

          • Jon Castle

            I respectfully submit, PoliticalScienesGuy, that we should have had a meaningful discussion about gun control BEFORE we had 300 MILLION guns in our country. THEN it might have been effective. Now… unless you big govment folks plan on going door to door on a gun grab (see how well that works out for ya) then the whole concept of gun control is meaningless. It only disarms the law-abiding; it does nothing to prevent the criminal element from buying a gun from a private citizen… from inheriting one… from smuggling it across the border… instead, let’s talk about properly diagnosing and treating mental illnesses or disorders… about having health insurance pay more than $1500 a year for mental health. I would think you libs would be all over that, but no… nary apeep on that – only about the gun grab.

          • Jon Castle

            Yes. And the strict gun control laws that exist in Norway did a great job of preventing the Oslo Norway massacre where 73 people were murdered in cold blood. Yes… gun control works VERY well.

    • conservativechick

      Meaningful action: Arm and train principals and others in the schools to save the children! If she had a gun, that principal and all those children might be alive now. No different than the calls for an armed policeman. They say they have no funds for that.

  • jsgrill

    In Connecticut, it is illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to own a handgun.

    It is also illegal to carry a handgun outside the home without a permit.

    It is illegal to possess a firearm on public or private elementary or secondary school property.

    How much more “gun control” would have prevented today’s shooting?

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    All I can say is, KENNESAW, GEORGIA! KENNESAW, GEORGIA! It is MANDATORY to own a gun in that town, check the violent crime rates. It speaks for itself.

    • http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-atlanta/harriet-baldwin ★♥ Harriet Baldwin

      Kennesaw repealed that. But it DID work- VERY WELL !

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        When did they repeal it? Last I checked, it was still in force.

    • ACF

      Interesting notes about Kennesaw – From 1982 to 2009 there was only one murder which occured in 2007. In 2010 there were three murders, committed by the same man, in a SCHOOL SAFETY ZONE where no one could legally defend themselves.

    • bluewaternavy

      In my Dad’s home state of MT, you take your life on your hands by breaking and entering-or robbing a convinced store. When that happens, there are often fatalities-at least for the perp

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    Hmm. Strange coincidence that anti-gun lobbyists are at the WH today? I mean, I wish I could just pack up and jet on the next plane to the White House so I can protest. Not gun control, just other things.

    • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones

      Are you saying Obama did it?

      • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

        Does it look like I said it? Gee, I don’t think so, at least, nowhere in my post does it say ‘Obama did it’, now does it? I know reading is hard for some folks, what with only 7% of eighth graders being proficient in reading these days….

        • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones

          You said it’s a strange coincidence,what are you implying?

          • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

            He went to Michigan to rabble rouse the unions and the next day there was almost a riot. He’s also known to “never let a crisis go to waste. He’s armed Mexican drug cartels to murder hundreds. He’s also set up his Libyan Ambassador to be executed while he watched on a live video feed from a drone overhead.

            Yeah, there’s no way he would have paid for these people to show up to protest.

          • TwitWit

            it’s purely coincidental that in the last four years we have had 20 somethings go nuts and mass kill, and that the current anti-second amendment administration has been in place during all of those murders.

      • wwbdinct

        No KAdams is saying what I am thinking – how did these vultures get there so fast with those signs? I freakin LIVE in CT and I didn’t hear about 18 kids confirmed until 2 p.m. and after.

        • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones

          I knew something had happened at around 12, vultures is a strong word it messed me up to hear about those kids should I not care?

          • wwbdinct

            So did I. But it wasn’t really confimed until after 2 p.m. So how did they get there that quick with those signs that said 18 children killed?

  • michael s

    Kudos to the admins of twitchy for not using this to attack Pres Obama. That discussion is coming simply due to the nature of this act of terrorism and people wanting the discussion of gun control. lets see where this goes.

    • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones

      Twitchy attacks Obama about everything.

      • wwbdinct

        No! Today is the first time in months I wanted to hear what he had to say. He is a parent and so am I. There is no bigger bond between people than that of being a parent. No right, no left – just mother and father. Your comment was lame and meaningless. Take your hate elsewhere.

      • Tom Bannigan

        Neither Obama or the dems need our help looking like idiots. We simply point out that there are mentally ill individuals who vote for them.

      • lainer51

        can’t help it, he is such an easy target. we have 4 years of his history and 4 years ahead – it’s the gift that keeps on giving.

      • bluewaternavy

        Tell you what:

        Ask why the dangerously mentally ill are allowed to roam the streets. Why thay have the right to refuse medical or psych treatments or meds-and still remain outside. Ask that before you address the subject of a WEAPON in the hands of a MENTALLY ill person. Those guns didn’t up and go to that school and massacre those kids-a nutcase did.

        did the “gun’free’ zone save them? NO

        Did CT’s strict weapons laws protect them? NO

        “Bad guys” and nutcases don’t give a rat’s ass about following a law or moral code-ever!

        This cretin’s mother should have secured those weapons she LEGALLY had. He legally could not possess one. she didn’t secure them and has now paid for that error. As did 20 plus others.

      • Michael Rice

        Well, when eh seems to favor, or at least not dismiss more meaningless laws, what do expect. I am surprised no one has blamed Bush yet.

  • Hearns-Jackson-Hagler-Jones

    I’m conflicted cause I like guns but you pro gun people don’t sound like you care it reminded me of the NRA thinking going to Littleton after Columbine was a good idea.

    • bluewaternavy

      Don’t care? Bullshit..I’m still breathing because a four men took out a gunman when I was a child. Guy tried to rob a store was in. Luckily, my father and a few others were armed-and sent Mr. Druggie robber clean to hell with a few .45 ACP rounds. In this case, 4 M1911A1’s trumped a dirtbag with a Lady Smith.

      Consider that Doug, OK?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000060158724 -Hannibal Lector-

    On a day where so many children died needlessly, we need to be talking about society reform not, gun reform. A happy child from a good home doesnt go out and murder his mother and father and then in his rage, go after the children his mother adored…………………………..

    • mw

      ok, how many people end up as murderers who were born to unfit or incapable parents or even out of the foster home system who could have opted for an abortion if it were legal?

  • kch50428

    “Meaningful action” Dog-whistle weasel words for elimination of the private ownership of any firearm for any purpose.

    • HARP2

      Just for white people.

  • HARP2

    I think this administration should have thought of that BEFORE they started giving guns to the cartels.

  • LochGates44

    Gun Control is arming the law abiding and sane citizens of this country.

  • Maxwell

    Why not crack down on illegal gun trade? Would probably be more effective than stricter gun laws… you know, it would keep guns away from criminals.

    • Tom Bannigan

      They would have to prosecute Obama then on the fast and furious issue.

      • lainer51

        Where were these whiners when Brian Terry died?
        You do know who B.T. is, don’t you? No one seemed to care about him or his family. Thank God, his parents are coming forward to sue.

  • wwbdinct

    What a disgusting sight! This vulture woman with that sign. You vile pig!

  • JannyMae

    Where are they in protesting the needless, shameless killing of children who are still in the womb? Oh that’s right. That’s all about “choice” and who gives a damn about the “clump of cells?” Hypocritical beyond the extreme.

    • v1cious

      Oh yes, let’s make this about abortion.

      • GoSellCrazySomeplaceElse

        I guess when you murder millions, you get use to it, huh?

      • bluewaternavy

        Yes, lets…. The liberals have a skewered view of what is “OK” to kill. They pity the criminal and ensure their rights above all. they allowed the insane and mentally ill to raom the streets because it is their “right” They tell the same it’s OK to refuse any medical treatment as it is their “right”

        Given we are talking about rights, why not ask what effing rights those kids had as this sick, vile LOSER stormed their classroom and ended their lives?

        why not ask about twenty-something grieving families that wonder “WHY???”

        Got any good answers for that, champ?

        Like it or not, LIBERALS have ensured we have the ‘right’ to allow kids to have access to non-stop violence through video games and movies. Then when a nutcase acts out on this shit, we hear them scream for gun control? WTF??!!??

        This society needs a real adjustment in values.

        • Lady_Clare

          You said everything I wanted to say. Thank you, Patrick!

        • Guest

          Who decides what “values” should be adopted? I imagine any values you disagree with are bad values, and the ones you agree with are good values.

      • JannyMae

        This is all about the leftists supposedly caring about these dead children. They don’t care any more about these dead children than they do the ones destroyed by the millions through abortion. All they care about is how it can benefit them politically. They are already screaming for more gun control. Gun control didn’t prevent this. This was a gun-free zone. Who did that benefit besides the shooter in this situation who paid no attention to those laws?

        • Guest

          Are you claiming that you know the personal feelings and emotions of the so-called leftists? Do you have special psychic powers or something? Talk about a gross generalization.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

            You would never engage in generalizations, would you?

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

            You would never engage in generalizations, would you?

      • Terry_Jim

        Do you own a gun?
        no? Then your opinion on gun control is not welcome.

        • Andy Hebert

          I don’t own a gun but I believe in the Second Amendment. So I’m sorry Terry, but owning a gun or not doesn’t make opinions not welcome on the subject. What you posted doesn’t make any sense.

        • Guest

          Do you have a vagina? Then your opinion on abortion is not welcome.

          See how silly that sounds?

          • http://www.facebook.com/julielandlgutierrez Julie Landl Gutierrez

            That is exactly the argument voiced by “pro-abortion” enthusiasts during the last election! Now you libs know how stupid you sound??!!

          • Guest

            You obviously missed the sarcasm. But you’ve made my point for me: It sounds stupid doesn’t it?

            The argument Tim made above was structured so as to preclude those without guns from taking part in the debate. My post simply pushed that logic to its extremes by showing how silly it sounds when you replace guns with vaginas.

            Get it?

          • Ron Morisseau

            obvious someone has a sandy vagina

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

            Vaginas alone are responsible for conception?

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

            Vaginas alone are responsible for conception?

      • KhadijahMuhammad

        Perhaps it should be.

        Abortion is just one example of permissible violence that kids growing up see every day.

      • Michael Rice

        And let’s see you dance around the subject.

  • aPLWBinAK

    “Now is the time for meaningful action” say the same people who vociferously demand their right to continue adding to body count of 50 million aborted souls….

    • lainer51

      wow, what a great post!!!!! The loony leftists have no viable answer for that (other than hate speech for the subject being brought to light). Just wait, it will come.

  • lainer51

    does anyone else get sick of seeing the number “2” replacing the word to? where did the English language go? Feel like I reading something from a first grader!

    • bluewaternavy

      forty years of dumbed down education. I regret to say I’ve done the same on occasion. I do add that some do it to save twitter space in posting

      • lainer51

        twitter or not – – still looks like kindergarten – dumbed down it is!

    • NRPax

      I think the problem is the character limit on Twitter but I do agree with you. I’m tired of poor grammar being acceptable and I’m not happy about the fact I can translate it as easily as reading normal sentences.

  • Terry_Jim

    “When these idiots bring up taking guns away from everyone, ask them if they own a gun.

    99.99% of the time they are going to proudly announce that they don’t and never will.

    Tell them that their opinion doesn’t matter then. This is a matter for gun owners to decide, just like men shouldn’t be weighing in on abortion.

    Then walk away.” http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=160806&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Iowntheworldcom+%28IOwntheWorld.com%29

    • Michael Rice

      I get what you are saying, but they would just tiwst it around and their sheep would be even more in a fever.

  • Timothy Noonan

    I have been to two countries were I felt the need to be armed for my own protection, Afghanistan and Mexico. From what the NRA and gun lovers tell me, I need to add the United States of America to that list. Fornicating idiots are they.

    Many things can kill, a car, alcohol, a pen, a bat, a knife. Drinking enough clean water can kill you; none of these has a primary purpose to kill. A gun’s primary purpose is to kill and firearms have progressed from our revolutionary days so that firearms can kill with great efficacy. It is long time we Americans grow up and change our gun laws from the days of our infancy.

    • Glenn Mayton

      Point taken but the fact still remains it takes a nutjob or criminal to kill another person so lets do more to eleminate them and guns won’t be a problem. Two airliners, a few boxcutters, and some freakin Muslim radicals took out around 3,000 people on 9/11 and no one has ever said a word about eleminating any of them.

  • BeeKaaay

    Today, 3,000 children died. And leftwingwackos don’t call for any meaningful action. None of them want to ban abortion.

  • lcky9

    Gun control is OFF the table.. look at the stats BEFORE the control and registration and look at them now..

  • KhadijahMuhammad

    We have a society that:

    1) Has made moral education in the schools passe’

    2) Defends the destruction of the unborn in the womb

    3) Makes war on whoever whenever they feel like it

    4) Is trying to remove all mention of God and religion (sorry, atheists, but this is the PRIMARY source — albeit not the only one — of moral education) from society

    …….and we’re surprised by all this?

  • Michael Rice

    Maybe we should make all states have laws like CHicago or DC. Wait, they have gun and violaent crime rates that are through the roof….

    http://thebrennerbrief.com/2012/12/03/gun-control-does-it-work-to-reduce-crime/

    Gun control does not work

  • Michael Rice

    When a Muslim shoots someone? Do you mean like Fort Hood? Oh wait, that was “wrokplace violence”. J.a.c.k.a.s.s.

  • http://twitter.com/davidwcrosby David Crosby

    Where is the responsibility? I see hypocrisy from lefties, that’s all.

  • J.N. Ashby

    Y’know, if all you peasants just bit the bullet and had armed bodyguards like the great Mr. Bloomberg, you wouldn’t need to cling to your guns like nuts.

  • TDS

    Liberals will apparently never grasp the simple concept that LAWS regarding gun control are ALWAYS ignored by those that commit these kinds of acts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/michellelivigni Michelle Li Vigni

    I’m more concerned with the scum that pulled the trigger than I am about gun control. you can tighten gun laws all you want but the murderers are breaking the law by killing in the first place. they don’t care about murder than they don’t care about gun laws no matter how strict they get. if it gets to the point no one can have guns than they would use knives.

  • tcbinc

    When will the libs admit taking GOD out of society is the problem. Plus their stance on killing unborn babies

  • NRPax

    Coming up next: The Department of Pre-Crime. We’ll arrest the shooters before they ever pull the trigger.

  • http://www.facebook.com/The.Real.Grey.Ghost Jim Harvey

    OK wanna talk gun control OK Fine. I want to talk Hollywood censorship. I want to censor all of Hollywood’s gratuitous movies and television violence. The kind of stuff that triggers sick minds, Game software too, no more ratings, which are ignored. Just no more sales. First Amendment rights…so sorry too many people being hurt by. You can’t. You can’t destroy one right without destroying them all COMRADE NADLER!!!

  • Deborah JR

    Political exploitation of this tragedy is as vile as the act itself. It’s sickening to see the ‘gun ban’ bandwagon pulled out, harnessed up and jumped on by the heartless. Do they truly think that a gun ban will solve all the evil in this society? Do they think a gun ban will convince criminals and gangsters to turn in their weapons? Just like they thought Obama would be the savior of the world, they think a gun ban will prevent anyone from ever being killed again by a gun. They’re fools and ghouls and soulless to be advancing a political agenda when it’s time to surround the grieving with comfort and love.

  • JackThomasAZ

    Lanza already violated a Connecticut gun law which makes it illegal for someone younger than 21 to own or possess a firearm. So exactly what gun law or combination of gun laws would have prevented this tragedy? If someone is going to commit murder, which carries a sentence of life in prison or death, he is not going to be concerned about a misdemeanor gun violation. And I don’t want to hear the liberal fascists’ “ban all guns” BS. That’s the law in Mexico and we all see how well that works. Remember the 30-year long gun ban in Washington, D.C., the murder capital of the U.S.? Or how about Norway? A citizen can’t get a gun in Norway, yet how many kids did that nutcase massacre?

    • JustLikeAnimals

      Exactly. The ill-intending nutjob or criminal doesn’t give a good god damn about whatever new gun laws get passed. Gun control doesn’t control guns.

  • TJ

    He broke at least 200+ current gun laws. What would one more do.

  • Bizness22

    People don’t seem to understand that the only thing that can stop someone with a gun is another person with a gun. In situations where seconds count, police are minutes away. Just remember that.

  • BeeKaaay

    When Good is outlawed, evil will fill the void.
    That is what happens now.

  • Mickey James

    What I see is the left/liberal side controlling everything in America. The right/conservative side just goes along to get along. I always hear that the conservatives outnumber the liberals in America, but it sure is quiet on the conservative side.

    • JustLikeAnimals

      It’s because we’re “conservative.”