Shameful: Pope Benedict XVI joins Twitter, vile hate starts before his first tweet

Twitter is buzzing today, as Pope Benedict XVI ‘s new Twitter account has been revealed. The buzz started yesterday, when it was reported that the pope would launch a personal Twitter account.

Many thought the account would be under the handle @benedictusppxvi, and started following that account in anticipation.

But, the correct account is @Pontifex.

The account’s follower numbers are growing by the second!

As for whom the pope is following?

Ah, keeping tabs, perhaps. Alas, The Vatican will soon realize that fake accounts won’t end any time soon. This is Twitter!

Chuck Grassley welcomes Pope Benedict XVI as only he can.

“U.” They are totally buddies!

Ugh. Sadly and predictably, that did start.

Roseanne Barr, of course, joins in the hate.

And others follow vile suit.

Sick.

Really? This coming from people who gay-bait and bash constantly. And lady parts peddling, of course: See, the pope totally hates women, what with all that trying to protect them from being killed in the womb. Monster! Another thing that the haters don’t understand; the pope loves them, no matter what they say or do, and always will.

Haters, heal thyselves.

  • Peter Alstry

    Interesting how you went after claims of homophobia and misogyny, but not the paedophilia ones. Is that possibly because they’re true?

    The Pope has played a vital part in covering up a massive child abuse scandal within the Church, which is more shameful and vile than any tweet could ever be.

    • GTFOBigGovt

      You better think that one through. Since when are homophobic remarks justified? You Liberals so so confused. Or is your position that LGBT people enjoy seeing homophobia if it’s somehow loosely attributed to mouthing off at a pedophilia sympathizer ?

      Any time someone’s sexuality is a target or punchline, it’s homophobia. Go back to Liberal 101. Oh wait, that wouldn’t help you since they’re the biggest homophobes out there. Maybe try finding a gay person to educate you.Here’s a tip: avoid Roseanne, Joan Rivers, Kathy Griffin and all the other pop culture cowards you thing are so ~tolerant.

    • Howzah123

      In light of all the pedophilia (AND MASSIVE COVER UPS) happening at far left kids show Sesame Street and UK liberal kid shows, you morons have a lot of gall to be sitting atop your house of cards disguised as soap boxes. Oh the sweet sweet irony of immoral moonbats pretending to be moral.

    • MEY

      cite a credible source that proves the Pope “played a vital part in covering up a massive child abuse scandal within the Church”

  • http://twitter.com/Kramerica3 Cosmo

    Wow, the hatred of the left never ceases to amaze me. How can anyone believe that they are the open-minded tolerant party?

    • Bart

      Unbelievable! I am speechless at the vile hate these people display. The very breath of Satan is behind them.

      • foar

        HAHA! “The very breath of Satan”!!!!! Good for a laugh u religious lot 😀

        • http://twitter.com/blackiedog1 Anthony Blackburn

          no it’s the very breath of allah and his gay lover muhamed.

      • http://twitter.com/blackiedog1 Anthony Blackburn

        Are you really surprised by this? I’ll tell you what surprised me. I heard tell that muhamed and allah like little boys too!

        • http://twitter.com/blackiedog1 Anthony Blackburn

          Uh oh. I’m on a hit list now!

    • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

      It ceased to amaze me a while back. Didn’t you know? ‘New normal’ and all that crap.

    • sindexter

      Yep its so crazy to hate a leader of paedo bullshitters , i should just ignore all that stuff accept the “good” he does right ? While morons like him spoutting crap about how wearing a condom is bad yet expect to be taken seriously, you’ll have us slapping them down a peg or 2. Freedom of speech is great !

      • Triggerpuller

        Oh look at you wanting attention.

        • Theodictus

          Indeed, you have correctly identified the problem. I have broken it down a little further for him in my comment above.

          • $37672888

            No, you haven’t correctly identified anything other than the fact no good parent in their right mind should ever leave their children alone around the likes of you.

          • TYED

            Oh pleeeeze stop it. The manipulative propaganda is nauseating. Don’t you have someone else to con out there???

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

        Yep its so crazy to hate a leader of paedo bullshitters

        So you do think all Muslims are terrorists.

        • Theodictus

          Do you “think” all conservatives are haters? Do you….” think” ( LoLzZz : P ) your own hatred is righteous? Do you actually believe you are not a pseudo-liberal?

      • pdx73

        I’ll say no thanks to sexual intercourse if a condom is required. I have in the past and I will in the future. Wearing a condom is anathema to sexual activity, but the Liberal mentality has no room for intimate human contact, all they care about is the power to impose their will on the rest of us. Vomiting your crap about “morons” with zero credibility to do so. If you want to see a true moron, go look in a mirror.

      • Teresa Davis McCormick

        I’m sure he can handle all the b.s. people throw at him. He has God on his side..

        • Theodictus

          and they have hate on theirs…. : P

      • Shawn Smith

        Yeah, freedom of speech is great. It’s a pity that liberals have such a selective view on this. Nakoula Basseley Nakoula is in jail (practically speaking if not de jure) for making a YouTube video. Chick-Fil-A had mayors illegally threatening to block their business for thinking wrong. Liberal colleges across the country have speech codes that effectively silence political dissent.

        You have the freedom to say terrible things about the pope. We have the freedom to call you jerks. It would be nice if liberals gave a little more respect to the ideal of free speech, though.

      • Emjay Grakykat

        As a Catholic, you’re a person I believe the church will give abolution to wearing a condom, and in fact encourage you wearing condom, so there’s less of you to go around.

      • John Fowler

        I think you’ll really get through to him on Twitter. FFS, what world do you live in?

    • https://twitter.com/thehiredmind Hired Mind

      There is a reason for it. The more caustic the left makes the culture, the more decent people on the right will say “eff it” and just withdraw because they don’t want to be around all the hate.

    • Streetiebird

      Which of the tweeters were liberals?

      • Finrod Felagund

        Look, it’s Shittybird back to troll and drop more bird droppings.

        • Streetiebird

          Oh look, it’s Finrod with nothing to contribute to the topic as usual!

          • Finrod Felagund

            Why should I waste my good stuff on a cheap troll like you? If I warn others to not waste their time with you here, my job is done.

          • Streetiebird

            Awww :) I’m sure you have good stuff, you’re just saving it for later.

          • Finrod Felagund

            The Good Book tells me not to cast my pearls before swine, swine.

          • Streetiebird

            LOL :) Thanks for your kind words, I’m sure Jesus wants you to act like that.

    • $37672888

      Yeah, sorry we don’t tolerate child abuse, rape, baby-stealing and the de-humanization of others. Guess you do. Yet we’re haters. Go figure.

      • Chris Jones

        Pleas, what a crock, don’t hide behind that excuss, you’re just hateful is what it comes down to!

        • $37672888

          I’ts an “excuse” to not tolerate child abuse…? Well that pretty much says it all about you Catholics, doesn’t it?

          • TYED

            Its about you Post modern anarchist. All self-centered.

          • Jose Pineda

            Oh, so that’s it…. You’re not catholic, so you generalize about them. Let me guess: your God can kick their God’s ass every day of the week, and twice on Sunday, right?
            If you’re an atheist, then the issue is that your life is about proving a negative. No wonder you’re upset!!!!
            Nope, you say? You don’t care at all… Well, then why spend so much time and effort commenting on a story that’s is “utterly” irrelevant to you? Like I said before, run to the nearest Walgreens, and get a stronger prescription. LMAO!

          • PJSTX

            So where is your diatribe on the public elementary schools in California? Guess those kids don’t count?

          • $37672888

            This is a topic about the Pope, not the public schools chancellor in California. Duh.

          • PJSTX

            Your comment was about child abuse. Duh.

          • Matt

            No, you’re using anything you can as an excuse to spread hate. The church does not tolerate abuse, rape, or any kind of violence and in fact promotes respect for all people. This is the opposite of de-humanization. You realize child abuse is perpetrated just as much or more by non-religious, right? If you truly care and are not just trying to spread hate, what are you doing to stop it? You need to grow up sevenbridgesroad.

      • Mawm

        The church continues to protect molesters.

        • https://twitter.com/thehiredmind Hired Mind

          So does the gay community, by not admitting every one of those priests were gay.

          • Sad Chestertonian

            Boy preferring molesters tend to be a lot like gay men, but so do bull queers. But they are not gay: “…you have to be human first, they don’t qualify.” A lollipop to anyone who can guess that quote!

          • https://twitter.com/thehiredmind Hired Mind

            All I know is, you were right: “Salvation Lay Within”.

          • Sad Chestertonian

            We have a winner! What flavour of virtual lollipop do you want?

          • Seth_p

            What’s the orientation of someone have to do with anything? Straight men and women convict sexual crimes as well. These are unfortunant and disguestful acts that are plagued by ones mind, no one is protecting these creeps. Don’t try to pin this on someone’s orientation and/or act like you understand the gay community.

          • https://twitter.com/thehiredmind Hired Mind

            Overton’s point was the church protected them, I’m simply saying there is another community doing the same thing. Don’t try and pin this on someone’s religion, and/or act like you understand the priesthood.

          • Seth_p

            First, I was raised Catholic nor am I defending Jd per-say. My issue is that you’re generalizing the gay community; if the gay community is so protective of molesters in the church then why don’t more LGBT attend the church? It’s the exact opposite. Anyrate, the actual number of cases of molesation is over polarized by the media; their just trying to pick fights IMO

          • https://twitter.com/thehiredmind Hired Mind

            He and other critics of the church are generalizing about the church. What’s the difference?

            “if the gay community is so protective of molesters in the church then why don’t more LGBT attend the church”

            That makes absolutely no sense. The point is that these molester-priests are not only priests, but are gay. The fact that they are priests is publicized EVERYWHERE. The fact that they are gay is covered up.

            Plenty of decent, honorable churchgoers have had to listen to hateful attacks on them just because someone who happens to share the same religion did something terrible. And many of those launching the attacks presume to speak for the gay community, even though these monsters have one foot in the church and one foot in THEIR community.

          • Seth_p

            Guess what, I just read in the paper the other day another woman molesting a young boy in her classroom. Damn those straight people and coverups. You’re trying to make it as if there’s a correlation between molestation and homosexuality because the church fails to take responsibility or have appropriate procedures for removal.

          • https://twitter.com/thehiredmind Hired Mind

            “You’re trying to make it as if there’s a correlation between molestation and homosexuality”

            Which is *exactly* what the leftists do against the church. Seriously how are you not getting that? They routinely imply, and explicitly say, that priests are all child molesters. When in reality, there was LESS child molestation going on inside the church than outside.

            “because the church fails to take responsibility or have appropriate procedures for removal.”

            As have thousands of wives/mothers/brothers/sisters and other family members who knew about abuse going on in their own households. As have many teachers. Yet teachers are exempt from the kind of broad-brushing that the Catholic church undergoes on a daily basis. Why?

            If gay groups are going to continuously paint all priests as child molesters, then I’m going to continue to point out the other group to which these monsters belong: THEIRS.

      • Carl Peterson

        You can “not tolerate child abuse, rape”, etc. without posting vile and nasty messages. There seems to be a lot of hate going around. That’s never good.

      • Shelli Brett

        Baby stealing? Never heard that one.

      • TYED

        We only tolerate it when it comes from Muhammed, Don’t we???

        • $37672888

          Huh? Who the hell is Mohammed? Are you talking about Islam? What does that have to do with anything? What’s wrong with you?

          • Sad Chestertonian

            The implication is that Mohammed raped his youngest wife, who was only eight at the time of their marriage. I, however, believe that he waited until she was at least 15 to consummate, as it was impractical as well as cruel to make a girl pregnant before she was likely to survive. If 15 still sounds too young to modern ears, keep in mind average life spans during the Dark Age.

          • Justin Jurek

            Islamic sources say he consumated it when she was nine. Look it up, google is your friend.

          • Sad Chestertonian

            I am aware of those sources, but the fact that she survived, and did not give birth to her first until she was around sixteen, makes me wonder how accurate that is, or why they don’t see the incongruity. Worst case scenario that I must accept as a possibility is that he did rape her once, then left her alone until she could safely bare children, but why do that? It is inconsistent with the tribal common sense of the time.

      • Jeannie Hurley

        No, you tolerate baby murder (aka abortion), the destruction of the family and the de-humanization of others. It wasn’t the Catholic Church who portrayed people as monkeys. It wasn’t the Catholic Church who said that the Irish or the Blacks weren’t people. It wasn’t the Catholic Church who promoted selective abortion of Downs Syndrome babies, or the abortion of babies based on gender. It’s not the Catholic Church who has waged a genocide on African Americans in this country (70% of babies aborted in New York were Black). It wasn’t Catholics who mutilated female genitalia to keep them from enjoying sex. Yes, you (generalizing here) are haters. You hate the Catholic Church and all who support it. You hate that the Church exists to shine a mirror into the darkness of your soul which has become corrupted by the desire to please yourself to the detriment of others. You hate that the Church reminds you that sin exists and you point out specks and ignore the plank jutting out of your own eye.

      • https://twitter.com/AlessaRosewater Maria

        What about all the atheist child molesters, rapists, and the general de-humanization of others (meaning anyone with a religion)? If you’re an atheist (which you have the mentality of) you must be okay with it by your own “logic”.

      • Finrod Felagund

        Liberals don’t care about child molestation unless it involves someone on the other side of the political aisle.

        For anyone who disputes this, I have two words:

        Roman Polanski.

      • Mary Kreitzer

        Do you tolerate abortion – the ultimate child abuse?

      • http://twitter.com/blackiedog1 Anthony Blackburn

        You’re probably the type of person that tolerates islamic homophobia to the point of torturing and executing homosexuals. Mosogyny towards women also to the point of torture and execution for dishonoring their family in any kind of way, women not being allowed to vote, show their faces in public, have an education or even the priviledge of driving a car. A religion that promises their followers that the “god” they worship will grant them an eternal place in paradise with 72 virgins if they murder themselves along with a number of innocent people just trying to go about thier daily lives. And the idiots actually believe that! Does allah promise anything to the women that kill themselves along with the innocent?

    • Blueberries

      Is it hateful to hate the hateful? Is it intolerant to not tolerate intolerance?

    • http://youtu.be/efJUFlD1S8Q DaleVM14W

      Look at their philosophy: They mass murdered Poles, Russians and Ukrainians in the last century by the billions. Who are the real haters?

  • Danny Wheeler

    Ugh… really, people?!

  • crazymensa

    These are the same people who, rather than make a difference by doing something constructive to change whatever it is they hate, sit around on their butts and spew stupidity (in other words, do nothing).

    • wallygirl

      So true. I have learned from my volunteer work that those who criticize the most and have the most to say, usually DO the least.

    • DSA

      Yes, the 47%..

  • http://twitter.com/InformedNow InformNow

    Now we know why they called it “Twitter”… Look at all the ‘Twits’!

  • Tobias

    Why are we not allowed the same hatred and intolerance towards other religions, groups, and peoples as we are towards Christians? These same comments toward other groups would get people fired from their jobs, expelled from their schools, etc.

    Roseanne Barr can (poorly) mock the leader of this religion but when a small town TV anchor makes an equivalent joke about Rachel Maddow (hardly a leader of a world religion), the anchor is threatened with suspension if she does not apologize, as reported on Drudge: http://www.infowars.com/fox-anchor-suspended-for-calling-rachel-maddow-angry-young-man-on-facebook/

    Besides, the joke’s on them – Benedict XVI is an antipope!

  • Paula Lusby

    Actually, the pope is a human being, only a man, a sinful human just like all humans. People bow to him but they are all blind. Still we don’t wrestle against flesh and blood {humans}. and we are to forgive our enemies.

    Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against
    principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this
    world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    • leobinus

      I bowed to the previous Holy Father when I was fortunate enough to meet him, but I am not blind. This pope — and all previous popes — would agree with you that he is “a sinful human just like all humans” — that’s why he goes to confession frequently, to seek God’s grace and forgiveness.

    • SR

      The Catholic Church does not claim that the Pope is divine. Now please tell me Paula, the bible that you quote, in what way did it perdure in history in the 1,500 years of Christianity leading up to the protestant reformation? By what authority was the canon of the Christian bible compiled? Learn.

      • SgtZim

        Paula didn’t say anything about divinity, and perdure – you keep using that word… I do not think it means what you think it means…

        • sugabee43

          Bruce, Paula Lusby inferred that Catholics worship the Pope by saying “bow to him”. Catholics do NOT bow, or worship, or consider the Pope to be divine. He is a falliable human being who only speaks infalliably ex cathedra with the help of the Holy Spirit. He is a vessel, just like we are all called to be. The difference is that he has had that position conferred upon him from bishop to bishop in an unbroken line from Jesus to Peter on down. There has only been 3 ex cathedra proclamations in the last 300 years, btw.

          • Benjamen Bennett

            Hmmm, I only know of 2, infalliablility and Immaculate Conception doctrine. What was the third?

          • sugabee43

            The Assumption :)

      • Tony Bracewell

        The canon of the scripture is well known as it was compiled over 100 year and codified. The O.T. It was confirmed at the Synod of Jamnia, in A.D. 90. All the books of the New Testament were revered by the early church even before the formation of the canon. Around 200 A.D. Tertullian, Bishop of Carthage, was among the first to use the term New Testament. Between 200 and 400 A.D. there were ten independent catalogues of Canonical books published. Six of these agree with our New Testament and three omit only one book. The point is, there was general acceptance of the books that were eventually formally accepted long before the canon was confirmed officially

    • AuthenticBioethics

      The object of honor and respect signified by bowing (or kissing his ring or like in the old days kissing his feet) is NOT the man, but the office, and an office established by Christ. Please read and take literally Mt 16:18 and also consider carefully the basic request of Sonny Ramirez to ask yourself: Where did the Bible you believe in come from? You would not have it but for the Popes of Rome. The Bible came from God, but through the Church, not the Church through the Bible.

  • midasrex

    Not much surprise. The Bible tells us that darkness hates the light. This is just another example of the open hatred that Christianity in general receives. I wonder why these folks aren’t this openly hateful towards Islam – you know, the religion the espouses – and exhibits – murder as one of it’s teachings? Interesting to ponder the reactions these same people have to both religions and consider what might be at the heart of the difference, hmm?

    • Joel A. Edge

      Cause openly hating on Islam will get ya killed. These people aren’t that brave.

      • Triggerpuller

        Joel you hit nail on head the left makes a fuss like this when it is safe. Where is the left protesting what SOME Muslims are doing in the name of their religion?

        Just like you never see WTO protestors trashing Beijing like they do a place like Seattle.

        The left is awash in loud cowards….

    • http://turophiles2cents.com/ Steve Downs

      I pondered why the Islamists crashed planes into the WTC and the Pentagon on 9/11/01 killing themselves as well as thousands of others. I wrote a blog post on my findings here: http://turophiles2cents.com/2012/09/29/who-is-allah/

      If this is true, it explains why Leftists are simpatico with Islamists. It shines light on the darkness, if you will.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

      I don’t have a twitter account, but one thing I’d do to all the anti-Catholic bigots listed here is ask “do you think all Muslims are terrorists?”. Get in their face about it. Make them see their unthinking bigotry.

      • http://www.droiddoes.com/ Norm

        Islam is a religion of peace. Their is a minority if them that have made poor decisions, but the catholic church and their anti-gay stance and priest abuse issues are far worse and you know it.

        • GETALIFE

          Like I said you can’t fix stupid….

        • john vallier

          That is Pure Shit, look at 1400 Years of Islam Lies and how they got where they are.Killing is all they know and the way they will go.

        • alcarrie

          Seriously, Muslims murder hundreds of thousands, and keep women in bondage, and you compare that to being against gay marriage? As a Catholic, I can tell you the church does not teach hatred or homophobia. We are to love and be kind. However, a marriage is to procreate and have children. It is not fair, and studies prove this, to give a child two male or female parents. The child has no choice. This is our belief, and the belief of the Bible. It is rather you and your ilk that hate us for our centuries old commonly held b beliefs, that have always existed in all cultures. Just because gay people now say it’s right does not make it so.

          • Reasonable2012

            Great point. It is a mistake to equate the impact to humanity of the Church’s anti-gay stance to the oppression and violence visited on people through the Islamic barbarism we see in parts of the world. They are magnitudes different in impact.

            Though I do not consider gayness to be normal and healthy, I do see it in a different and less judgmental light. We are animals, truth be told. We are overpopulated. As is common with mammals that are out of balance with their ecosystem, we are in a state of stress. We are weakened. One of the symptoms of that stress-induced weakening is homosexuality.

            The cure is not to brow-beat people who are engaging in it. The cure is to remove the stress and revitalize the species. Of course we could consciously and willfully do this by taking responsibility for our own personal fertility. You know, do not have a(nother) child unless there are local resources to meet its needs and unless there is a bona fide need in the community for another child…and then let the best and brightest couple in the community procreate (in small communities we always know who that is). But we are not going to do that.

            So, Nature will move us into carrying capacity the old school way…cold, cruel, and ruthless: war, famine, poverty, disease. When that happens, you will see that homosexuality naturally pretty much goes away. The humans that come out the other side of it all will be revitalized.

          • Sad Chestertonian

            Throughout the middle ages, the dominant form of population control was to enter celibate orders. There were major population booms 1000-1300. That said, I believe homosexuals will become increasingly rare over the next 150 years. I believe the phenomenon is primarily caused by prenatel anomalies, such as vanishing twin/opposite sex chimera syndrome. As prenatal care grows more state of the art, these anomalies will disappear, and so will homosexuals. Someone should wright a sequel to GATTACA featuring the last gay man. It would be an interesting tragedy.

          • Chris

            People are dishing out what they’ve been served. Your religious beliefs are between you, your family, and your church. Leave the general public out of it – your faith does not belong in legislation (if you’re into that, move to a Sharia country).

            “It is rather you and your ilk that hate us for our centuries old commonly held b beliefs”

            …some other century-old beliefs of the church include Earth being flat, Earth being the center of the universe, and modern medicine (including belief in the circulatory system) as heresy.

            And people were murdered for suggesting otherwise! Own it!

          • pdx73

            For Christ sake pun intended. First of all the United States was FOUNDED upon Christian beliefs and principles. If that offends you, LEAVE!!! Secondly, if you expect others to “own” the mistaken beliefs of their particular religion from 500 years ago, then you best research your own belief structure and “own” every mistake made there over the last half millenia. You are a fool and your lack of sophistication shines brightly through your post.

          • http://www.facebook.com/riding.giants.1 Riding Giants

            If you don’t believe in something that logic, science and common sense tells you is complete lunacy..Then you should just GIT OUT!!! haha. This country was founded on irrationality and we are proud of it!

          • Chris Jones

            Actually the creation of the universe by God seems more logical to me than it all simply coming from nothing.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            I see you have never read any science…

          • Theodictus

            So do the effects of a poor potty training process…

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            With your logic you could also claim that this nation was founded by people with brown eyes and that it’s a brown eye nation.

            Show me anywhere in the Constitution or founding fathers documents where it mentions Christians or Christianity.

          • ACSuperstar

            Wow, your statements are so ignorant I’m not sure it is even possible to explain to you how wrong you are.

            First of all the United States was NOT FOUNDED upon Xtian beliefs, if that offends you then YOU should leave!!! Point to the beliefs and principles that the United States was founded upon that belong exclusively to christianity. Wrong to kill? Wrong to steal? Everyone is created equal? Those principles and beliefs were around long before xtians came along. Get off your high horse and realize that the government of the United States is meant to be religion neutral, no preference for any one religion over any other.

            Don’t believe me? Read the Constitution, First Amendment, something about “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…” but perhaps you skipped that part.

            Not good enough? That’s OK, I don’t expect you to use logic and understand my interpretation of the First Amendment. Perhaps the Supreme Court of the United States can interpret things better than I can, as they did In the Board of Education of Kiryas Joel Village School District v. Grumet, 512 U.S. 687 (1994), when Justice David Souter, writing for the majority, concluded that “government should not prefer one religion to another, or religion to irreligion.”

            Still not convinced? OK, what about the words of someone who was there when those old documents were written, someone reputable who had a good idea of what our founding fathers had in mind? Someone like Thomas Jefferson may have said something related to this topic, something about the will of the people “…building a wall of separation between Church & State.”

            Stop spreading your ignorance and lies, keep YOUR religion out of OUR government. It’s “For the people, by the people” not “for the xtian people, by the xtian people” whether you like it or not.

          • Sad Chestertonian

            It is more accurate to say America was founded DENOMINATIONALY neutral, and even that largly did not apply to Catholicism for 100 years. The whole “freedom from religion”, schtick do not exist outside “Shelly” and “Marx” book clubs until the arts of spinning interpretations and legislating from benches reached all time lows.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lhvickers Lynn Harbison Vickers

            Wow if our Religious beliefs or between us why are you here making comments about it .seems to me yall started the gay thing first the hate thing first then when we comment back we the bad guys.The Pope has the right to have an account just like you and if we have to keep our religious beliefs to our self fine then keep your gay comments to your self.

          • Mawm

            It is so you can stop embarrassing yourself.

          • KingKaos

            You are an uneducated idiot… the Big Bang Theory came out of the Catholic Church(The God Particle stupid or “Gods Egg”?), main stream scientists added to the work of the prist but the basics came from inside the Churches Scientist community. Which by the way is very large and progressive at this point. They are at a point we are not alone in the Universe and multi-verse methodologies as well. You are talking about the churches beliefs from 800 years ago and what the heck was the alternative belief of the time??? There was none! It wasnt just the Chrisitans that believed that way, IT WAS ALL OF THE WORLD you douche… Man you are just such an eneducated smack talking dumbarse I cant even stand it… Anyway if your head wasnt so far up your arse that you are watching digestion from a front row seat, you would INVESTIGATE the crap you spewed(like the rest of your kinfolk, BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE WORK even if it just means getting off of your animal porn site for 10 minutes to Google something) you could probably maybe have a sort of fact backed conversation instead of this garbage. Im not even a Catholic and dont agree with there teaching but I still know what they did and do asshat. I wish I could meet your father so I could punch him in the face for dropping the seed that eventually became you in the garbage can that is your mother! (Deep Breath, count to 10…). Just sayin…

          • Mawm

            You are wrong. Read “A Brief History of Time” to see what the Catholic Church most recently told Stephen Hawking, that they were prepared to accept the big-bang theory, but that he should avoid looking into what happened before the big-bang. Silly Vatican, still trying to tell Scientists what they can and cannot think about.

          • Sad Chestertonian

            Ironic, seeing as how Hawking has dismised the “before the beginning” argument with his south pole analogy. In view of his reaction to a friendly suggestion made out of compassionate concern, I feel that his dismissal of the question smells suspiciously like a copout.

          • Sad Chestertonian

            You are fan of James Burke, I’ll bet.

          • XM-177

            flatulence

          • Theodictus

            You are holding modern people of faith up to concepts endorsed by the church 1,000 years ago. please you’ll need to do better than that.

          • Sad Chestertonian

            Actually, no one was ever killed for teaching Helio Centrism, and the stubborn assess at the univerity of Vienna are primarily responsible for millions of deaths that could have been prevented if they had only listened to Doctor Similwize from the moment he pre-identified germs.

          • http://twitter.com/alfiemoon20 alfie moon

            how many Jews died during world war 2 because the vatican wouldn’t help? they’re just oas guilty of allowing people to be killed and i’m a Chritian and i pray every day, but i think the church has been misguided unfortunately

          • Guest

            Better question is “How many Jews were saved through the Vatican’s help”? Do your research. The Vatican did the right thing. They could have declared Hitler’s actions to be evil and be destroyed rendering them completely useless to the Jews, or they could allow their priests to secretly aid Jews. The Vatican chose the latter and saved thousands of lives.

          • Susan

            Thanks for sharing the truth. Wow, the ignorance of the comments. P.S. I am a Catholic and I do not support child abuse, rape, the oppression of women. We are taught to hate the sin not the sinner.

          • Nan Skovran

            He opened the doors of convents and monasteries to jews, authorized manufacture of false baptismal certificates and supervised a network that saved 860,000 lives. After the war, Israel’s Chief Rabbi thanked him.

          • Chris Jones

            Really, what exactly was the Vatican to do exactly?

          • Mawm

            The abuses of the Catholic Church are too numerous to list here. Read a history of Latin America. Priest pedophilia has been going on for ages, but has only recently been a focus. The church is still covering for and defending molesters. Read about the scandal in Spain where poor people had their babies stolen to give to rich people who couldn’t have children.

          • Sad Chestertonian

            Did that fraud Alberto Rivera spew this? It sure sounds like him.

          • Thomas I

            During the war, Time magazine credited Pius XII and the Catholic Church for “fighting totalitarianism more knowingly, devoutly, and authoritatively, and for a longer time, than any other organized power”.[223] During the war he was also praised editorially by the New York Times for opposing Nazi anti-Semitism and aggression.

            After Pius XII’s death on 9 October 1958 many Jewish organizations and newspapers around the world paid tribute to his legacy. At the United Nations, Golda Meir, Israel’s Foreign Minister, said, “When fearful martyrdom came to our people in the decade of Nazi terror, the voice of the Pope was raised for the victims. The life of our times was enriched by a voice speaking out on the great moral truths above the tumult of daily conflict.”

            Rabbi Lapidae estimates that Pius XII’s efforts saved at least 700,000 but probably as many as 860,000 Jews from certain death at Nazi hands, hiding them in the vatican, and providing many with fake baptisms and certificates so they could travel away from Europe.

          • Susan

            So true.

          • Sad Chestertonian

            All war, even the most righteous, can only win through deception.

          • sindexter

            lol when he wasn’t kissing hitlers arse

          • Sad Chestertonian

            I will say this as many times as I can: WATCH Gregory Peck’s stellar preformance as Monsignure O’Flarrety in the WW2 drama “The Scarlet and the Black”. Then do more research on O’Flarrety, and hopefully you will throw your copy of “the Deputy” in the garbage.

          • rs1123

            When one Muslim man says to another man ‘give me some head’, there will be a saw involved, and a lot of screaming.

        • Mastock

          Whereas I do believe that a small percentage of Muslims are terrorists, I don’t believe that they are the religion of peace. If they truly where, they would police their own ranks and get rid of the bad ones. They kill women, gays, Apostates, anyone who in their eyes defame Muhammad. Has the Catholic church had problems, absolutely. Have they addressed them, yes it is an ongoing process. Is the problem far worse……….ask the 3000 plus that lost their lives in NYC. Oh wait, you can’t….

        • Tony Bracewell

          What would you expect the Pope to say about homosexuality; “be fruitful and multiply?” Oh sorry no procreation possible. Honestly the Pope believes in the Bible and teaches from the Bible. The Bible condemns all sin including homosexuality where it is called an abomination. The perverted few in the U.S. are the hatemongers and are intent on destroying our culture, marriage and the family. I have no issues if the homosexuals want to practice a perverted lifestyle but I get plent angry when I am forced by law to endorse the perverted lifestyle. Why should my children be taught they should rejoice with the homosexuals as they destroy the lives and this country? If homosexuals kept the sex lives private and did not flaunt it, and force its acceptance I would not have an issue. And no it is not a civil right!!! Homosexuals have all the rights any of us have, what they want are special recognition of their perverted lifestyle and protection to practice this abomination and force everyone to accept it.

          • Mawm

            Why doesn’t he tell his followers that they can’t wear clothing made from mixed fibers?

        • Brad

          The sad thing is, you libs actually believe the shit you peddle.

        • MiddleManMark

          I dont want to be disrespectful but Islam subjects women to horrific treatment. Im not sure how educated you are but a young girl was shot in the head earlier this year for trying to go to school. women are forced into marriages, must subject to their husbands 100% and are treated as less than humans. So this is a religion of peace if you consider this sort of treatment of women as acceptable. Don’t forget the fact that you are executed/tortured if you are homosexual. Never hear about gay Islam people now do you?

          • GETALIFE

            Nope, they hide…My daughter works with a gay Muslim, and he must keep it a secret or they will beat him and throw him out of his community

          • Mawm

            As opposed to the Catholic leadership that simply wants them to live loveless lives of celibacy.

          • Thomas I

            FYI: 22 of the 23 suri jurus Churches of the Catholic Church ordain married men to the priesthood. Even within the Latin Rite (most familiar one) there is the Anglican Ordinate which allows married anglican clergy to convert and get conditionally re-ordained and still have a family. If a man is marred and enters the permanent Diaconate and becomes a widower down the line, he can decide to discern for ordination to the priesthood-without remarrying.

            Also: Love=Sex.

          • Sad Chestertonian

            You have never sat down with a dying Monk and had an intimate conversation for hours. I have. His heart was BURSTING with love.

          • Blueberries

            Making the majority feel powerful by hating a specific set of minorites is an effetive means of ensuring cohesiveness.

          • Mawm

            Why can’t one criticize both the Catholic and Muslim religions?

        • Shawn Smith

          It is official policy in many Islamic countries to kill people who convert away. It is official policy to kill homosexuals. It is official policy to kill women who commit adultery (while the men are generally given a pass).

          Please tell me how is any of this comparable to teaching that homosexuality is not the moral equivalent of normal sexuality?

          If you make the “few bad apples” argument for Islam, the same argument applies with equal force to sexual abuse by priests.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/C2XARYESKON6WWSTR7S4DMCCTU SammyDJ

            Not only do they kill women that commit adultery, they also kill women that have been raped. I don’t remember that happening in a Catholic church.

        • MiddleManMark

          Also its “there” and sure the MINORITY of Catholic Priests who molest children are horrible horrible people but they too are a minority. You do not see anyone in the islam religion come out and condemn suicide bombers who murder innocent CHILDREN and WOMEN who also belief in the same god as them. it is sickening

          • Mawm

            The problem is that the church covers for the molesters, and attempts to marginalize the survivors of the abuse.

          • Thomas I

            Citation?

          • Justin Jurek

            Don’t bother, he’ll probably just cite the New York Crimes.

        • EOD

          The Catholic Church does not put homosexuals to death, but Muslim countries do.

          • Mawm

            But it does want them to remain second-class citizens and live lives of loveless celibacy.

          • Justin Jurek

            Only if you believe love is solely expressed through sex, which apparently you do, and I pity you for it.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CQBLALW7IHH3KKGRH5BJFKQNQY Bob

          The “religion of peace” – i.e., that satanic cult that is Islam – kills “gays”. Your muslim buddies publicly sodomized an American Ambassador in the streets of Benghazi while he was dying having been tortured. Islam is the most evil force on the planet.

          Educate yourself next time.

        • HughGKnutts

          I’m always amused at the attempts liberals go to, to let others know how stupid they are. I had no idea there were people still dumb enough to use the “religion of peace” platitude.

          No wonder you voted for Obama. You’ll always need someone else to carry your weight in life.

        • PoliticoJames

          “Their is a minority…..” learn how to spell. Islam is full of ignorant followers

        • pdx73

          Oh Norm, wake up and smell the C4 strapped to that 14 year old girl’s chest. Are you telling me someone who disagrees with homosexuality is WORSE than some Mullah exhorting teenaged girls to slaughter as many innocent people as possible??? You truly need some help.

        • Triggerpuller

          There is probably 5000 times more Muslims engaging in violence as there are Catholics molesting children

          The difference is the Catholics dont have people like you to deny reality. Whereas Islam has millions of people like you ignoring what they do.

          Then again aside from vacation spots you dont see the left experiencing much of the real world.

        • docmacs

          Cause Islam has no anti-gay stance???????

        • MEY

          Catechism: 2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives…

        • Teresa Davis McCormick

          your logic is crackling…you see it don’t you? I will pray for you.

        • http://www.facebook.com/brian.mouland.908 Brian Mouland

          Some Muslim countries still stone homosexuals argument lost!

        • Nan Skovran

          Sadly, 60% of abuse is done by friends and family. The percentage of priests who are abusers is approx 3%, the same percentage as society in general. Are you concerned with the teachers, coaches and others who abuse children?

          • Mawm

            I am concerned with any organization that covers-up for the molesters.

          • Thomas I

            Like our public school system? Or how about just the country of India in general. I’m sure people in various areas are raped in the streets. How come the government isn’t catching all possible predators.

            It’s hard to police a billion people, man.

        • PJSTX

          A religion of peace? Well, sir, read the Koran and get back to us on that religion of peace. Otherwise, stop defending the indefensable. You’ve been force fed talking points and are faithfully regurgitating them with absolutely no knowledge. Think what you want but do not spread lies. READ IT. Then tell us its all about peace. (yes, I’ve read it – you have not).

        • Sad Chestertonian

          Sharia law, as interpreted by wahibists, demands that homosexuals have a large brick wall dropped on their heads. The wahibist philosophy WAS rare before 1936, when most Sunni Muslims followed variations on the old Toledo philosophy, which truly, and consistently kept Islam peacefull. For 200 years, the more novel and extreme wahibist ideas only circled a handful of Arab tribes, where the more liberal Toledo ideas were rejected as week and not literal enough, (ironically, even as they still call for revenge against Spain for It’s fall). But when the Ottoman empire fell, Islam was left without a major world power for a few years. Then a Saudi Arabian leader took control of the country’s oil wealth and guess what? He just happened to be a wahibist. That family has done more harm to Islam globally by spreading that poison than any other enemy they ever had from without; it has even spread to Sheiit communities. Imagine that a follower of Fred Phelps were to discover Cold Fusion, corner the global energy market, and make billions. Do not think for a second that such modern “Cromwelliens” would not look to that burner of monks for violent ideas of their own.

    • EOD

      Like you I find it strange that Liberals time and time again openly denigrate Christianity, but always seem to to find a way to protect Islam.

      Do Liberals really believe that the followers of Mohammed will embrace them, their lifestyles, their penchant for the blasphemous with open arms?

    • geoffrobinson

      Because Satan’s house isn’t divided against itself?

    • Alexis Feurer

      Islam has nothing to do with us. Catholics push their morality on us here in the USA. Considering the USA is in 2 wars with Islamic countries (officially) and are actively allied with Isreal, we do a lot to put Islam in its place. Twitter is for conversation with the world, we don’t owe the Pope any respect, Don’t start a conversation if you don’t want to hear what people think.

      • EOD

        How many Churches are there in Saudi Arabia?

        Answer: Zero.

        How many Synagogues are there in Saudi Arabia?

        Answer: Zero

        How many Mosques are there in Israel?

        Answer: Nearly 40 not counting a dozen in Gaza alone.

        How many Mosques are there in the United States of America?
        Answer: Over 2100

      • JustLee

        The whole point is that these nut jobs aren’t in a conversation with the Pope, they are attacking without even being engaged in a conversation.

      • Theodictus

        “think” …….. LoLzZz

      • CherDash

        If Islam has nothing to do with us, why are we paying for their footbaths in colleges and other places?

      • Nan Skovran

        Muslims push their morality on us. Are you aware the lawsuits in which Muslim employees demand special treatment, such as having everyone else’s breaks scheduled around theirs at slaughterhouses, suing to wear a headscarf while in character at Disneyland and restaurants? Are you aware that Muslim taxi drivers, under the guise of religious freedom, attempt to force Sharia on their customers by refusing to carry dogs, passengers with alcohol, gay couples? Are you aware of the failure of mass media to characterize honor killings as such? Do you realize that Muslim men attempt to enforce Sharia in family court?

    • http://www.BibleGateway.com snorky neederecker

      You don’t seem to realize that the Pope and Islam are going along hand in hand.

    • HughGKnutts

      They are lazy. Islam has consequences. These deadbeats attack Christians because they know (for the most part) they will not fight back. The same reason most of them are on EBT cards, they are always looking for the easiest path in life.

    • http://twitter.com/codephined Daniel Brooks

      Yep. Let me sound off a few Suras (chapters) for all the readers.

      Sura 5:51 – Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends.

      Sura 5:17 – Infidels are those who declare: “God is the Christ, the son of Mary.”

      Sura 5:73 – Infidels are those that say “God is one of three in a Trinity” (Mohammed showing his ignorance of the Trinity)

      Sura 9:123 – Make war on the infidels who dwell around you.

      Sura 4:101 – The infidels are your sworn enemies.

      Sura 47:4 – When you meet the infidel in the battlefield, strike off their heads.

      Sura 2:191 – Kill the disbelievers where ever we find them.

      Sura 5:33 – The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger… will be that they be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land.

      Religion of peace, right? :)
      Thank God for the Catholic Church who saved Europe on several occassions from being invaded by the anti-Christ religion of Islam.

      History Channel’s Mankind: The Story of all of Us neglected to mention that the Crusades began because of Muslim aggression in the Holy Land.

  • Kieran O’Hagan

    Stupid Roseanne says the crap she does, and when I call her out on it, she reports me and calls me a bully. What a POS has been.

    • Erdos

      How dare you disagree with a leftist. That’s hate speech!

    • Maxwell

      Roseanne is talentless, simple. No one would have watched her show if it weren’t for John Goodman. It’s a shame she’s the more famous one, and his career went nowhere.

  • Constance

    I don’t really understand why a Twitter account needed to be opened up in this case. Seems to be an invitation for hatred, not a forum for like-minded people to communicate. In fact, that seems to be what the majority of Twitter accounts are these days. Hence, although I love Twitchy – I do not have a Twitter account. :)

    • Waiting for the Change

      I think you meant “…not a forum for minded people…” as Twitter seems to be a rather hostile place for nameless/brainless people to bash any and every thing they feel deserves their ignorant bile-filled hatred — one of the main reasons I do not have a Twitter account either.

    • kilthan

      A doctor doesn’t treat the healthy, but the sick. So too Christians of all stripes are supposed to go to where those who need God are. Based on what I see from Twitter, they need God in some way, shape, or form.

    • AuthenticBioethics

      The Pope and the Church will outlast the hatred. Like waves crashing against a Rock, the hatred is all foam and noise. The Rock will endure.

  • George Vee

    The peace and love left is at it again

  • GETALIFE

    At least I raise two nice and good women…They aren’t like these people that hate, everything good….You know you can’t fix stupid, all you can do is believe in God and be kind to others

  • TexasMeow

    Liberals are just fine with Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech as long as it is Atheism and Lies.

    • therantinggeek

      The Left has always employed the tactic of using double standards. Nothing new here.

      • Shawn Smith

        If it weren’t for double standards, liberals wouldn’t have any standards at all.

        • therantinggeek

          Good point!

    • Timothy Noonan

      Freedom from religion. Believe what you want, use it for your strength. just do not expect all to live our lives by your religious rules and get any strength and guidance from it.

      • TexasMeow

        The difference between a Conservative and a Liberal is that a Conservative does not mind letting people live how they choose, as long as it does not cause others harm. A Liberal, on the other hand, as you can read by the comments above, rips people to shreads just because they disagree with their beliefs. So go preach to your own choir, because Liberals are the ones with the hang ups.

        • Timothy Noonan

          Conservatives have no problems as long as everyone believes their beliefs. By definition, conservatives resist change and differing opinions. Do what you claim to preach, letting people, ALL people, live as they choose.

          • biggcatt1

            Your statement would be true if the labels we have given to our political philosophies were literal. But conservative are conserving liberalism the nation was founded on. And liberals are reactionaries. Just review the posts above for evidence.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Conservatives conserve liberalism….Now I have heard it all.

          • zj sky

            The classic definition of it, yes. James the “liberalism” people follow is more of the “progressive” type. The “classical liberalism” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism) has elements of modern day liberalism (civil rights) coupled with the conservative / libertarian ideas of limited govt. This classical lib ideology seemed to have generally died out on the left as of the late 19th and early 20th century

          • pdx73

            You had better remember that and learn it well. If JFK were alive today he’d be a classic Republican. Martin Luther King WAS a Republican. Today’s conservative is a mirror image of the Democrats of the 50’s and early 60’s. Just look at the party platforms of JFK in 1960 and George Bush in 2000. Virtually identical. Now take a look at where the Democratic party is today: Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Maxine Waters, Chuck Schumer, John Kerry, Al Franken…… the list of the intolerant, racist, wealthy class warfare enthusiasts is virtually endless, not to mention the hard core socialists running the White House right now. You need to do some research.

          • Timothy Noonan

            You are grossly confusing Party with Ideology. None of the “Classic Republican”s you speak would be Republicans today. You modern day deity Reagan included. Lincoln would be a liberal democrat today.

          • biggcatt1

            I suggest you reread Locke and Burke the fathers of liberalism and then compare their positions to the two party platforms. The GOP is for limited govt that protects the individuals rights. That is classic liberalism. “Liberals” are for a govt that provides for the common good and protects certain group rights. The problem is there is very, very little that is good for everyone, like the military, the courts and protecting rights everyone has. Once you get beyond that the common good and group rights trample somebodies individual rights. Not only is modern liberalism not liberal, it is antithetical to classic liberalism. Liberals can advocate for what they like, but don’t kid yourself about being liberal in the same vein as the founders.

          • TexasMeow

            Typical Liberal, twisting words to suit your purpose. True, Conservatives favor traditional values. But where is it written that we resist reasonable change? Nowhere. You say let ALL people live as they choose. Please tell me….does that include religions that teach that murder is acceptable and stoning women to death is acceptable? You see James, there is a line that can’t be crossed. Religion aside. You either have morals or you do not.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Reasonable is subjective now isn’t? I know it is reasonable for all Americans to enjoy the same freedoms and privileges no matter what stated they live in. Others fail to enjoy this knowledge.

            Live as they choose was a reply to your comment, “Conservative does not mind letting people live how they choose, as long as it does not cause others harm.”, that is part of the discussion we are having. If you want to extend that into religion induced stoning of women and murder, Christianity and Islam is loaded with. The religious leaders of both have failed miserably to stop their own barbaric practices over time.

          • TexasMeow

            Of course ‘reasonable’ is subjective, and so is ‘unreasonable’ James. Which is the catagory the Tweets come under from the Liberals above regarding the Pope.

            We were discussing letting people live as they choose and you stated “If you want to extend that into religion….”. I’m curious James, you do realize this whole topic was started based on liberals making nasty comments to a Roman Catholic Pope? And our topic is today’s society not 100 years or older?

          • pdx73

            Not true. When was the last time Christians ANYWHERE on this planet stoned a girl to death for adultery? When was the last time any Christian beheaded a 14 year old girl for refusing to marry him? I suggest you do your research before posting and looking like a fool. Oh, and I have no religious affiliation whatsoever, but I have a very powerful bullshit detector and it’s ringing loud and clear reading your posts.

          • JustLee

            Please educate me on the barbaric processes the Catholic Church uses today?

          • Nan Skovran

            Remind me when was the last documented case of Christians stoning a woman? Oh, that’s right, Jesus came to fulfill the law and enter into a new covenant, part of which is enshrined in the New Testament. Please cite the New Testament chapter and verse that advocate murder. Can you please document the last time a Christian pastor or priest advocated murder?

          • pdx73

            Conservatives like Abraham Lincoln? Perhaps you can explain to me then, why was it the so-called enlightened Democrats who opposed the end of slavery, opposed the equal rights amendment and supported the Jim Crow laws? Tell me again who resists change?

      • ArmyMom

        It is Freedom OF Religion …. not *from* it!! Look it up!!! And just in case you do not understand the difference: Freedom OF Religion gives me the right to live my life in accordance to whatever religion I choose without the government imposing itself into my beliefs. Freedom FROM Religion has the implication that the government can restrict the practice of my religion because it offends someone else.

        • Timothy Noonan

          Freedom of religion gives me the choice to not choose a religion and, thus, freedom FROM religion. If you are an Army Mom then you will see how overt Christianity is in military ceremonies, I can’t stand it it does not belong. I disliked every benediction and invocation it does not belong and one more reason I thankfully retired from military service.

          • ArmyMom

            So your Freedom FROM Religion should outweigh my Freedom OF
            Religion?? That does not seem right to me — especially since the words you refer to were written with the word “of”

          • Timothy Noonan

            No but you believe your freedom of religion outweighs my freedom from religion. Unless America is now a theocracy. You’d like that, eh?

          • EOD

            You have no Freedom to be From Religion in the United States of America.
            We are One Nation Under God, and In God We Trust.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Ah, so we are now a theocracy like Iran and Saudi Arabia. Wow!

            Both added in the 50s as a political tool against communism during the height of McCarthyism, thankfully no relation. Their addition has caused more division now than unity.

            The forth version of the pledge was perfect and is e pluribus unum.

          • EOD

            United States Code
            4 USC § 4

            The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag: “I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

            Italicized text added 15 June 1954

            31 USC § 5112(d)
            (1)United States coins shall have the inscription “In God We Trust”. The obverse side of each coin shall have the inscription “Liberty”.

            Italicized text added 22 April 1864 by way of the Coinage Act of that year.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Yes you provided the code by which the pledge was modified during in 1954 with under god as a feeble ploy against communism.

            In god we trust was not codified until 1956 as our official motto, for the same above reason, over the unofficial e pluribus unum.

            E pluribus unum is perfect, out of many, one. Why the need to change it? Insecurity I suspect.

          • TexasMeow

            You are free to not worship when ever you want, with others that want to not worship. We will not stand in your way. But do not try to stand in the way of others right to worship when and where it is their right to. Because you will have a challenge on your hands.

          • Timothy Noonan

            See above reply…When both conflict, who gets right of way when both have equal rights to their values? Questions that have to be decided in our progressive society today. Cheers!

          • TexasMeow

            The majority gets the right of way James. That’s the American way. That is even how our Government is run. No one is trying to take away your right not to worship. By all means, not worship all you want. Do it all day long any where you want.

          • Timothy Noonan

            The Constitution protects the rights of the few from suppression by the many. If I go to a religious ceremony I expect religious babble. At a government sponsored event, non should be expected. You really do want a theocracy…so sad.

          • TexasMeow

            The Constitution also protects the Majority from the few radicals (That would be you James). Who want to force their way on the Majority. NOT going to happen. Get over it and move on. Just start bringing your ear plugs with you if God is that offensive to you. I don’t like brussel sprouts, but I’m not going to throw a fit and try to make everybody stop eating brussel sprouts because I find them ugly and smelly. How about this…….I just won’t eat them, but I will let others enjoy them if they want, whenever, where ever they want. Because, it is not going to hurt me in any way. Does that register with you? I tried to make it as simple as possible for you.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Here is your analogy sister.

            I go to a restaurant that serves only brussel sprouts because that is the only thing the patrons want, I should expect to eat brussel sprouts – No arguement.

            But you expect me to go to a restaurant that caters to ALL patrons wants and still expect me to eat only brussel sprouts.

            That is your simplification.

          • TexasMeow

            James, it must be awful to be wrong so often. I almost pity you.

            No one is going to force you to eat the brussel sprouts.

            It’s like a cliff….just because it is there, does not mean you have to jump off of it. I can go on and on. If it was something that could harm you, I could see your point, but it can not. You can choose to believe or not. Just like anything. Are you going to stop going to mall’s because there is a Santa Claus there? Just because you don’t believe in him? Or would you like the world to do away with him as well?

          • Timothy Noonan

            It must be awful to live in your bubble…Again, have a nice life, as limited as it is.

          • TexasMeow

            God bless James!!!!

          • EOD

            It has been said that there are no atheists in foxholes.

            And Rudyard Kipling summed it up best when he opined –

            “In times of war, and not before,
            God and the soldier men
            adore;
            When the war is over and all things righted,
            The Lord’s forgot and
            the soldier slighted.”

          • Timothy Noonan

            If there were a loving God, there would not be a need for a Soldier to be in a foxhole. We would not even need the Soldier.

          • ArmyMom

            War has nothing to do with an absence of a loving God …. and everything to do with a prideful, arrogant and downright stubborn human race!!

            Oh … and PS … as the mother of a soldier (Infantry) who has been to war 4 times, I have always appreciated those benedictions and invocations that you despise so much. So why should your wants out-weigh mine??

          • Timothy Noonan

            Thank your son for his service and I hope he is okay. I am glad you liked them, I got nothing out of them and as each one went by I resented them. I resented having “so help me god” in enlistment oath and I refused to say it even if the Officer administering the oath still said it after telling him not to.

            Thus you believe YOUR wants out-weigh mine. I can handle it, just realize what you are doing to folks like me.

          • ArmyMom

            What some who are atheists do not realize is that, by definition, their
            non-belief *is* a religion!! By dictionary definition, a belief is a “something believed; an opinion or conviction” and, by definition, religion is “a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons”
            Your belief in no God … shared by many who are atheists …. by
            definition is a religion. So … I would put forth the question, why do
            those whose religion is believing in nothing get to influence and
            control the practice of belief by those who believe in God. You might
            assert that “my” belief outweighs yours, but I would suggest that during
            those invocations and benedictions there were more who had beliefs that
            resembled mine then resembled yours … However, routinely these days
            it is those who practice the religion of Atheism that get the final
            say.

          • Timothy Noonan

            You are mistaken, badly at that. Belief in a god or not has nothing to do with religion. It is a form of spirituality. Religion is a human made institution by which rules and methods of worship of a god(s). Being an atheist or agnostic is not a religion.

            I guarantee you there are more theists and religious among any military ceremony than atheist and agnostics. Combined with non-Christians, the number would be small compared to Christians yet nearly all, >99%, invocations are done by christian chaplins. Should jews, muslims, Buddhists (not a religion by the way), hindus be subservient to Christian beliefs and prayers during these ceremonies?

            It is pure paranoia that Christians believe there is some war against Christianity. You have had your way, unchecked, for 235 years in our country and it will continue. But if Christians feel the need to have their beliefs codified into US law, then expect a backlash. The backlash is not nativity scenes at town halls atheists really do not care, Christmas has become more of a secular holiday anyway: the backlash will come from constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage. It is the insistence that DOMA remain law. It is the attempt to overturn Roe v Wade. Try sometime to think about how much of Christianity is incorporated into American life and you will see how overt it is.

            By the way, have a Merry Christmas!

          • XM-177

            flatulence

          • EOD

            If Mankind loved as God intended there would not be a need for a Soldier to be in a Foxhole.

            Communists are Godless.

            Untold millions have been felled by the Communists.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Humans created the gods as way to explain the unknown. Put some ridiculous ideal of what a god should maybe due to our ow shortcomings.

            I am an American. I no longer choose a political affiliation. I have a liberal ideology. I was once a devout Catholic. I now no longer believe in a god(s). We are all born atheist and, for most, are indoctrinated into a religion.

          • EOD

            Saying you were once a devout Catholic is a lot like you saying you were once in the Military.

            The Military is rather large, with hundreds of jobs, some jobs do things, others support those who do things, and others still support those who support those who do things.

            The Liberal definition of being Devout covers a very wide spectrum.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Your overall point was lost.

            Those who think they do things cannot do their things, without the things done by those who support those who think they do things all by themselves. Carry on.

          • EOD

            Wait one.
            Those who say they were Devout but so easily shed all adherence, and then denigrate all those who still adhere could not have been Devout in the first place.

            Alot like those in the Military who support those who support those who do things and then think that without them the Military would just cease to exist, just how important are they to begin with?
            I believe Delusions of Grandeur is the term for it.

            Consider yourself dismissed.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Devout yes, then joined the military and saw the world differently and grew up from the nice little childhood stories of how wonderful god was. Then deduced god wasn’t.

            I denigrate no one, I do not care what people believe in until I am expected to conform to sanctimonious babble the greatness of god and its many forms and religions that worship them. Hooah!

          • EOD

            Just how many times did you Swear an Oath to God that you would adhere to the Constitution of the United States of America and Defend the Constitution of the United States of America?

            Were you sincere each and every time?

          • Timothy Noonan

            Affirmed and omitted “so help me god” from last three enlistments. Also when needed, used “cod”

          • EOD

            United States Code
            10 USC § 502

            (a) Enlistment Oath.— Each person enlisting in an armed force shall take the following oath:
            “I, __________ , do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

            (b) Who May Administer.— The oath may be taken before the President, the Vice-President, the Secretary of Defense, any commissioned officer, or any other person designated under regulations prescribed by the Secretary of Defense.

            There is no Cod listed in the Oath.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Like I said, last three oaths, so help me god was not said by me. For pledge, replaced god with cod or just used the 1942 version recognized by congress.

          • Nan Skovran

            I’ll pray for you, through the intercession of St. Augustine. Jesus loves you, even though you choose to turn from him.

          • zj sky

            James, are you now telling US how we should view God? I thought, per your words above, free FROM religion and can observe how we want.

          • TexasMeow

            It’s called freewill James. Morality guides us. Some better than others as most can see by the tweets from the liberals to a Pope that preaches nothing but good.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Stop with liberal this or that. Conservatives tweet equally vile messages on Twitter, no one has ownership on any piety. Don’t be so sanctimonious.

            Twitter provides many who are pissed off tat a Church that let them down a voice to tell the Pope how he screwed up in taking of his congregation. He put the church ahead of congregant and now the Pope will hear what directly from his congregation.

          • Nan Skovran

            The topic here is vile tweets against the pope, so yes, it’s about liberals Catholic bashing. Oh, and the pope loves you, too..

          • TexasMeow

            Oh dear….I do believe I have made you mad James. Being wrong can have that effect, but you are probably use to it, I’m sure. The last thing I am is sanctimonious. You see, I hold no religion. I do however believe in God, morality and decent human behavior. Which you and some of your liberal friends shy away from, as if these things were going to hurt you in some way. You James are quite a pathetic excuse for a human being.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Ha! Ha! Mad?! Dumbfounded by how foiks have blind faith. You do not need religion to be sanctimonious, you only need to believe that you are morally superior to others – I suggest to Webster they add TexasMeow as a perfect example.

            Your last sentence set in stone your sanctimony.

          • TexasMeow

            Oh James, I guess any body that believes in God would seem sanctimonious to you. You have so little knowledge on the subject. Us Conservatives are quite dumbfounded by the blind faith you have in Obama. Even after proof of his lies, cover ups and leaving our 4 Americans in Benghazi to be tortured and murdered. That is beyond comprehension. But it does explain a lot about you James.

          • Timothy Noonan

            TexasMeow, a person who believes in the greatness of god and all he created, states “You James are quite a pathetic excuse for a human being.”

            Now here is the sanctimony – God, in all of his perfection, created all things. God, in all of his perfection, created human beings. God gifts us with his greatest creation with children. I am human being, gifted to my parents by god. I, like all other humans, are perfect as made by the perfectionist God.

            How then can I be a pathetic excuse for a human being if the perfectionist himself, God, created me. Could it be that he, the perfect God, made a mistake?

            Oh the blasphemy!!! Quickly go wash thy eyes with holy water.

          • TexasMeow

            James be careful now. Someone might think you’re a religious person. Once again, you only quote what you think will serve your purpose. You Fail Yet Again. God gave man ‘freewill’ to make their own choices and decisions. That is where a persons morals play a part in their life. And, yes, you are a pathetic excuse for a human being James. Everything you have written here proves that.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Every pastor and holy roller quotes only what they want to serve their purpose: when counter quotes are presented, especially if anything is from the Old Testament, they counter well that is not practiced anymore. Either the Bible is God’s word or it is not. Use it in whole or not at all, no cherry-picking to serve your ideology of the day.

            I thank you for supporting my hypothesis that Christians, many of them, no nothing about the teachings of Jesus and have bastardized the religion they claim to love. Your writings lead me to reject my null hypothesis that Christians love and respect their fellow humans, all of them.

          • TexasMeow

            I expected a little more from you James, than just copying my answer and dressing it up in a liberal costume. But, then again, I am dealing with a pathetic excuse for a human being. You seem to be under the impression that Christians have to conduct themselves perfectly at all times. Newsflash: We are all sinners. Either in front of or behind doors. Nobody is perfect. Jesus died on the cross to forgive our sins. I think you know the story. Don’t you? I for one will call someone what they are. You James don’t impress me, and I can’t imagine that you impress too many other people either. I wonder what your intentions really are here.

          • Timothy Noonan

            According to Christian teachings, you are to strive to live your life as Jesus would. You will fail of course, but the true sin is to purposely fail to live up to that standard even as you are told you are not meeting that standard. Christ died to forgive sins, you are doing your best to make his death in vain.

            You have failed your Jesus, and your fellow Christians. As you celebrate the birth of Christ, it will behoove you to truly learn what the teaching of Christ were really about and not the rhetoric by political entities disguised as Christian scholars.

          • TexasMeow

            Oh dear poor foolish James. You do not see what is right in front of your pathetic face. I fight on God’s side all the time. Having ‘conversations’ with you and ripping your pitiful attempts at religious reasoning to shreads is not only quite entertaining to me, but also a service to God. Oh, and I wouldn’t go around preaching so much if I were you, you might offend some of your liberal friends.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Ha! Ha! Offending! Those that have been spared or have been saved from the ball and chain of the many variations of god, liberals and conservatives, are having a good chuckle at you. God is almighty and does need you to fight for him.

            You are nothing more than a rabid, misguided fan of a celebrity when it comes to god. More like a little school girl melting for Justin Bieber.

          • TexasMeow

            Are you sure you weren’t kicked out of the military James? You seem a bit over the edge my dear. Please make an appointment with your therapist right away and double up on those meds. I am glad for one thing though, you have FINALLY admitted that “God is almighty…” We are making progress. With some professional help James, we may just pull you through this.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Since I left the church and stopped believing my outlook on life greatly improved. I see the world for what it is and the world and universe is much greater than the fiction scribed in the bible. Try the view sometime, it is fantastic. Have a nice life.

          • TexasMeow

            I’m sure you’ll find yourself somewhere out there in the universe. God bless you James!!!!

          • pdx73

            Idiot. As long as there are 2 human beings you will have conflict. It’s our nature and nothing will ever change that. If you want to bring God into it, then I’d add that IF there is a God and He/She made us in His/Her image, then our penchant for conflict was designed and your supposition that if there were a God we wouldn’t need soldiers is pure, infantile bullcrap.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Infantile bullcrap is making up some benevolent god to justify an existence or to make feel better about ourselves. Humans, ignorant of the world around us, created the existence of a god to explain what we did not know.

          • XM-177

            Very well said, just don’t expect the religious mind to comprehend it. It’s way above their heads.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Yes, indeed. I will say I was once, one of those who could not be told there was no god and, thus, there is always a chance. Ha! Cheers!

          • Nan Skovran

            There is a loving God. He gave us free will.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/C2XARYESKON6WWSTR7S4DMCCTU SammyDJ

            Not true James. We live in a fallen world, full of evil and hatred. God didn’t create evil, he created humans with a free will who turned from God and became evil. Wars are necessary to preserve freedom and to put down evil.

          • Timothy Noonan

            God created everything right. Cancer, disease, deformities, famine, drought, floods, earthquake, hurricanes, tornadoes, typhoons, blizzards, volcanic eruptions. All things that harm humans. He created evil.

            War preserves freedom. I wonder how a POW feels about that, civilians in war torn countries. You have stated one of the saddest commentaries on freedom ever.

          • zj sky

            No, James it does not. It gives you the freedom from the govt imposing a religion on you. You can observe anything you want as long as it does not break laws and even then that can change (rastafarians using marijuana).

          • TexasMeow

            I for one am also glad you retired from our military James. Many religions believe in God. A very small handful do not. Majority rules. It is ‘unreasonable’ to think that the majority should have to change for such a small group.

          • pdx73

            Thank you for your service and thank you for getting out. It absolutely does belong and I am always heartened knowing it still is an integral part of our military tradition. If you want a secular military, I suggest you look into the Red Army….. oh right, it doesn’t exist anymore.

          • JustLee

            I grew up in area with many different cultures. Different things celebrated. No one was offended. Jehovah’s Witnesses just didn’t participate, it was their choice. People had choices on what they wanted to participate in or not. No one ever had a problem until some Atheists decided they were “OFFENDED”. Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it is wrong. You have a choice not to participate, not listen, not celebrate. Exercise your choices while you still have them because it is people like you that have put people in power that are striving to take away those choices. I am offended by you and your views and others like you. You claim to be a part of the tolerant, welcoming party, but all I hear is negative, hate mongering vitriol being spewed from liberals.

      • Bart

        Its not freedom FROM religion. If your going to banter, get your facts!

      • Nan Skovran

        The problem is that it is religion that created schools, universities, science, banking-temples acted as depositories. The Crusadesinfluenced trade (importing consumer goods), creating a society that used money rather than barter as well as having a higher standard of living.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/C2XARYESKON6WWSTR7S4DMCCTU SammyDJ

        Freedom FROM religion is your atheist doctrine, not the 1st amendment. The US does not have a national religion like the Church of England. Also, if you had any idea what you were talking about, you would know better than to say the things you say.

        • Timothy Noonan

          Freedom of religion gives you the choice to not practice a religion thus freedom FROM it. We are not a theocracy as you stated. Telling me I should no better sounds like a threat of something, should I be worried? Is there an Inquisition I should be worried about? Where is Mel Brooks when we need him?

  • roosterCrow4

    Anti-social media at its worse. Silly people, Twitter is for twits!

  • GETALIFE

    Liberals believe in one thing, that everyone should agree with them….If you disagree, you are called a hater, or racist….

    • TundraThunder

      Agreed! That’s old news, though.

  • GETALIFE

    Being a woman in this day and age, I wish I wasn’t…Liberal women tarnish being a women…I can see why men don’t want to get married any more, look what they have to pick from….Women that don’t have a soft side to them, wanting people died, swearing all the time, and not caring about things that should really matter

    • withpower

      This is accurate.

      Women do not know their place at all these days. Men aren’t without blame, however, as many men like to live in extended late adolescense and are not living their lives with a sense of honor and purpose.

      • Lady 12

        I agree with you on that. But, since I know there are trolls on this site, could you clarify for them what you mean by a woman’s place?

      • GETALIFE

        Like I said, family structure is gone…I blame it on women’s lib….What makes me sick, is women burping and farting in front of everyone….Where did manners go, what happen to putting the family first, and where is the respect for our elders?

    • Alexis Feurer

      wow… you wish you were a dude. I think the bible says something about that.

  • $372161

    The Church has suffered two thousand years of martyrdom and persecution. This is nothing new. But it is a mistake for the Holy Father to try to engage the world via social media – it offers too soft a target for anonymous insult and hatred. Moreover, it also provides the enemies of the Church with occasions of sin – that is, opportunities to engage in sin (because their sacrilege is sin). The Vatican should realize its mistake and delete this account without further comment.

    • wallygirl

      I don’t think it should be deleted. I hope it is an eye opener for many who may not yet realize (or admit) how vile, disgusting, and intolerant the loony members of the far left truly are!

      • $372161

        It won’t serve any purpose. The outrages perpetrated by the left are studiously ignored by the “progressive” secular press. Even today, the Republican side of the Spanish Civil War is presented as the “good guys” notwithstanding that the Socialists murdered tens of thousands of clergy and religious. The people who know what the secular left is all about will learn nothing new. Those that are not aware will not be informed by this. The Holy Father already engages the World for all who will listen. Twitter is a medium for those with a ten second attention span – it is not a means of bringing Truth to the World.

    • AuthenticBioethics

      There will be 10 times as many people who want to hear from the pope than who will hate him. Twitter, i suppose, can also be used to stay connected with them.
      And I agree with wallygirl. The pope should hang in there and just endure if nothing else, and let the hate wear itself out. They’ll eventually stop. Look at Chick-Fil-A.

      • $372161

        There is very little the Holy Father can meaningfully say to the faithful in 140 characters.

        Social media – and Twitter especially – are intellectual sinkholes. Instant abbreviated communicaton detracts from literacy and reflection. I stand by my original position.

        • AuthenticBioethics

          Yes in terms of doctrine and theology, you’re right. And I actually agree with you about the nature of these social media and that it probably wasn’t a good idea overall to open an account. I’m not saying you need to change your position but I, too, stand by mine now that the account has been established. After all, couldn’t the pope use it to drive awareness of other media in which meaningful content can be provided, and provide brief messages of encouragement and that sort of thing? Given the existence of the account, its use ought to be prudent and strategic, and canceling the account would be a victory for all the haters.

          • $372161

            Like many things, a decision to participate in the social media is prudential and not doctrinal. Reasonable minds can disagree. Go with God.

  • Mitch Morrison

    Satan rules and leads many Christians, Conservatives and Republicans as well as many Leftists Liberals and Democrats. They are the fore bearers of what we know is to come. They are as much fools, as they are filled with evil and hate for using their energy and time in this world in such a wasteful manner. They all have the choice to turn away from Satan. They have the power to decide their ultimate fate, as it has/is and was always in their own hands, and not another’s. It is better to set an example of how loving and forgiving you can be, as opposed to how much hate you can harbor inside and expose for all to see. That applies to those who abuse any system of belief or government.

  • OurLivesMatterToo

    Look through these comments and simply shake me head. Learned I’ve been suspended today for ‘trolling’ @StopHateRadio for doing nothing more than asking her/it whether her campaign against Ed Schultz has taken hold since he was the first to call someone a slut on the radio. Wonder how long I’m going to be ‘unavailable for comment.’

    • HughGKnutts

      It’s time for a republican strike force brigade. Liberals team up to report tweets as spam, even though they are not, to exercise their perceived right to fascism. Fight fire with fire.

      • OurLivesMatterToo

        This is just crazy. No warning – sign in and have the suspension notification at the top of the screen. God, if I didn’t have enough reasons to hate liberals already!

        • HughGKnutts

          I hear ya, Mark. Know a few others who were banned by twitter for perfectly normal comments in the #my2k hashtag. Deadbeats are working in coordination to report tweets they disagree with as spam, and twitter’s “automated” controls will boot a user.

    • Shawn Smith

      I had this also once shortly after the election. I don’t know the exact cause, but I suspect it was for replying to psychos saying “[Bleep] white people!” and how they would kill Romney supporters.

      Yeah, *I* was the one who got suspended there. Apparently “free speech” means the freedom to say any vicious, hateful thing you want and not have anyone call you on it.

  • Kevin McAuley

    For the Pope being hated by these people is a sign he is doing what he should. They hated me, they will hate you and all that. To all the twitter trolls, I wonder if they realize nothing they say will be worse than what Satan said to Jesus.

    • AuthenticBioethics

      Exactly. Matthew 5:11-12. Keep up the good work, Haters. You’re pointing us in the right direction.

    • Bart

      Jesus asked Satan “what are you doing here? Satan said “Going to and fro on the earth, and walking up and down on it”.
      Satan clearly has his grip on these evil people.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marcy-Cook/1001619613 Marcy Cook

    I had to laugh at Rosanne’s stupidity…”just another man in a dress.” She better watch out because her drag queen friends are not going to like that she appears to be intolerant of men in dresses. On another note, this hatred just brings out the evil in people and the Pope, a man of peace and tolerance, is the light. Darkness hates the light….but the light is with us always even in the darkest places light always seeps through.

    • AuthenticBioethics

      Right. And don’t gay cross-dressing men “hate” women, too, at least in terms of you know, committed intimate relationships?

  • GenJohnStarkReturns

    Microchip = mark of the beast.
    Fitting.

    (and no, simpletons, I am no lefty)

  • Carlmann

    Hate never goes out of style unfortunately. What a waste of human energy.

  • denis

    The pope is a tough old bird. He can take anything the feminists and their dominated males can throw at him.

  • GETALIFE

    Whatever happen to the kindness in people, oh that’s right they
    are liberals

  • HughGKnutts

    The typical laziness of liberals. They go for the targets that historically do not fight back. Now if they called out Mohammed for being a pedophile, I’d be impressed. But doing that has consequences and along with personal responsibility, consequences are not something liberals have interest in.

    • Reasonable2012

      Touche, good point. Not even sure who the Islamic equivalent of the Pope would be, but would be interesting to see that man get a twitter account, for the sake of comparisons. People would probably be too afraid to say what they wanted to say.

      I do think there is value in putting the Catholic Church’s true violent history out for public discussion, and think the Pope is receiving this hate not in a personal way, but rather for symbolically representing the Church and all its bloody history.

      • GETALIFE

        OMG…Really, that is in the past, get over it…It is not what is going on today

        • Reasonable2012

          So if you steal something, then at some point if you can hold onto it long enough, it becomes legally yours and the theft is erased from your permanent record?

          • HughGKnutts

            Seems to have worked well for muslims. They stole Israel (Israel was Israel long before islam was invented). It’s interesting you are in favor of putting the history of Catholics up for public discussion regarding true violent history, yet not a peep about islam’s *really true* violent history. I can’t imagine why.

          • Reasonable2012

            Huh, actually in other posts just in this thread, I have discussed radical Islam. You are right, it is definitely a case in point.

            When you actually examine Catholic history, though, you will find that radical Islam, has nothing over historical Catholicism (it has mellowed with time) in terms of ruthlessness and forceful conversion of unbelievers, and in terms of the mindset of conquest.

            No, I would absolutely LOVE to hear all about the true facts surrounding the life of this man Mohammed. Surely some of what is claimed about that man is true, as it keeps being repeated as historical fact. Indeed, treating a man or a book as a god is a mistake, and one we humans are prone to make in all sorts of religions. Yes, I would truly love to know the full and honest history of Islam, with all its beauty AND its ugliness. I would love to be able to discuss it openly and freely in the name of intellectual and spiritual honesty.

          • Don8r

            “When you actually examine Catholic history, though, you will find that
            radical Islam, has nothing over historical Catholicism (it has mellowed
            with time) in terms of ruthlessness and forceful conversion of
            unbelievers, and in terms of the mindset of conquest.”

            That is pretty much completely false. Catholicism was generally spread as barbarians would convert to it in an attempt to gain culture – Islam has generally spread entirely through conquest.

            The awful horrible Crusades were, for example, an attempt to reclaim lands which were conquered by Muslims from the Byzantines.

            If you believe Muslims were temperate, read about how they treated Hindus. There was no flimsy ‘people of the book’ protection for them.

          • ForTheRepublic

            You do realize that Israel wasn’t within Saladin’s borders until he and his ilk conquered it, right? It was it’s own independent Kingdom of Israel ruled by King Guy of Lusignan.

  • pmlittle

    The libertines hate to be reminded of their immoral lifestyles and choices. Beware, the Lord is KING and ALL will be reckoned to account for their choices in life. It matter not that you disbelieve…it will happen. The universe is defacto evidence of His existence and He is Almighty.

  • alcarrie

    These people are accomplishing nothing with their hateful remarks. It is very immature. An adult would say nothing, rather than be abusive. But, these people obviously have no values and naturally hate any value system that has Ten Commandments and a system a moral standard.

    • HughGKnutts

      They are professional underachievers. People who are not intelligent enough to provide for themselves.

  • Emjay Grakykat

    The Party of Hate: the first to accuse everyone else of being fascist, nazi, homophobic, hateful, and racist. Masters of the “f” word being the one word they all know and worship. Their politics is their religion, they have nothing else to have faith in.

  • JustLikeAnimals

    The left is collectively and individually some of the most vile, hate-filled, intolerant, and hypocritical people you will ever meet.

    Pass it on……

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

      I figure if the Pope is pissing these people off, he’s got to be doing something right.

    • HughGKnutts

      They also smell funny and have crotch crickets.

  • Von Russell

    Ugly.

  • Reasonable2012

    Let’s face it, when we hold our beliefs in stasis, they become less and less relevant over time. Life is not in stasis, it is dynamic and always evolving.

    For the sake of comparison, the Dalai Lama has been active online for a good while and enjoys overall very warm support (except for the whole Chinese government wanting him dead). Exclusive religion versus inclusive spirituality…what a concept.

    When we threw out shamanism as a world religion we got rid of such inclusivity and also the concept of sustainability…only taking from Nature what is freely given by Nature. We learned to exploit to a whole new level, and we learned to metaphorically feed off of other humans.

    Like it or not, the Pope is a remnant or relic embodying that dysfunctional mindset and all its history. He effectively sits in a gold throne in a cathedral built with the blood of slaves, and built on top of the destroyed sacred monuments of indigenous peoples. A little hate oozing out of the cracks should not be a big surprise.

    The Dalai Lama only takes what is freely given, and conquers no one. No hate, no surprise.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

      You do realize that the Dalai Lama isn’t too keen on homosexual activities, right?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Dalai_Lama#Sexuality

      • GETALIFE

        Yep, he comes to my city all the time

      • Reasonable2012

        Neither am I. Your point?

    • Emjay Grakykat

      These tweets have nothing to do with the ideas you put forth in your comment. These tweets are not from people who are spiritual followers of the Lamas, they are ignorant, hateful, and based solely on political beliefs. I don’t believe I’ve read any of the Lama’s teachings to denigrate Christianity. Your spiritual Buddhism was adopted and followed by the great warrior emperors of China. The monks of the Shao Lin temple base their spiritual discipline on an ancient form of fighting and violence that is still taught today around the world as self defense and aggression.

      As for the Pope and Catholicism, your version of history is narrow and skewed. No other organization or religion has contributed more to the development of civilization and philosophy the world over. Even legitimate Islam, Buddhism, and Taoism openly recognize Jesus Christ as a great prophet of history even if they don’t recognize him as God and many of their teachings come from his teachings and ideas. The Pope is not seen as a deity, but as a defender of life and a spiritual leader. The Magesterium of the church is the only body that produces the church’s Catechism. You should read it. It’s about love and forgiveness.

      The Pope has done nothing to limit your freedom. Look to your president to find the religion that is destined to make you and all of us slaves. He may never sit in a “golden throne” but his successors will build their empire on death panels that have been written into the laws of this country while they play God.

      • Reasonable2012

        If you look at history, the Pope is seen as the spiritual extension of Peter, and originally believed that THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE was given to them by God. In fact, when landing on the shores of Latin America for example, the ship’s Captain would read a proclamation to that effect. Since the Universe was given to the Pope, they were merely claiming what was already theirs. This is historical fact, and I can direct you to where you may view this type of document in museums. You may also see copies of it in books such as, “The Conquest of New Spain” by Bernal Diaz (he was a conquistador with Cortez, and wrote a book about their adventures).

        • Teresa Davis McCormick

          You do realize that the Church has went through reformation, right?

      • Reasonable2012

        Agreed that most of the hateful tweets are not based on my points. As Fr. Andrew McAlpin, OP suggests, people just do not want to be held accountable and have limits and boundaries. I agree with that, but would add that people do not want to be controlled by other people who use such limits as an excuse for their control and predations.

        • Teresa Davis McCormick

          I think it’s more accurate to say that people don’t want to believe that there is God. They keep telling themselves that and strongly defending their own ridiculous beliefs so they don’t have to think about how they have sinned and how they will be punished.

    • Tony Bracewell

      And you and include no eternal life. Anyone can make up their own religion but in the end will it provide eternal life? There is no other name under hearven, given by men, by which we may be saved. It is the name of Jesus.

    • Teresa Davis McCormick

      Well, If the Word of God evolved to fit around the changing times then it wouldn’t be the Word of God would it?

      • dissengage

        Then apparently you are not familiar with a womans place according to the word of God. Christianity has evolved and that’s what makes it better than islam. Man has to interpret the Bible to fit into modern times or the Christian religion will disappear in a free thinking society.

  • GTFOBigGovt

    Roseanne is not just,of course, a homophobe, but stupid, too. Since when do drag queens and trans tell women what to do.

  • utahwil

    The reason the liberal communists hate Christianity is because no one will do anything about it. If they said something about MUSLIMS or MOHAMMAD oh my god their head would spin like Linda Blair in the exorcist…

    it really is sad, as an agnostic type (no religion affiliation), for me if am not interested let them do as they wish… what do I care, but Christians in the USA have free speech rights so let them talk, just don’t listen if you don’t like it.

    You know the way things are going .. wait until these same folks are forced to convert to Islam.. and they fight it.. they will wish they had used CLASS instead of being idiots…

    Sad isn’t it.

  • GETALIFE

    Muslims for being such a peace loving religion, but they clitoridotomy, labia minora ,Pharaonic Circumcision… Inclusive of all other forms of genital cutting, such as: pricking, piercing or incision of the clitoris and/or labia; stretching of the clitoris and/or labia; cauterization by burning of the clitoris and surrounding tissue; introcision, scraping (angurya cuts) or cutting (gishri cuts) of the vagina or surrounding tissue; and introduction of corrosive substances or herbs into the vagina. So instead of saying there’s a war on women, why don’t you look at the real war on women….They can’t vote, have to cover up and have no rights

  • http://opcentral.org/ Andrew Mark McAlpin

    Not one of these interweb bully cowards would walk up to me and say these things to my face. Ever. Because Twitter allows anonymous posting and distant realities. No matter how foul a human being may come across on Twitter, they rarely, if ever, come across that way in person. This nonsense is another sign of delayed maturity in our world and a lack of respectful dialogue. Sadly, it’s mostly from the tolerant left. And you will notice that its from some profoundly ignorant voices who will say anything bad about child sex abuse among priests, but ignore it from public schools and within families. Notice one other thing: many of the haters root their distain for the Pope et al in the moral teaching that sex is made for man and woman joined in the bond of marriage. The current cultural trend, as we all know, finds this repulsive and anyone holding to this teaching is not worthy of life. Pay attention to the trends in this realm over the next few years.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

      As I see it, I tend to agree with Cardinal Francis George.

      http://www.catholicnewworld.com/cnwonline/2012/1021/cardinal.aspx

      “I expect to die in bed, my successor will die in prison and his successor will die a martyr in the public square. His successor will pick up the shards of a ruined society and slowly help rebuild civilization, as the church has done so often in human history.”

      • Benjamen Bennett

        That gave me cold chills to read. Beautiful.

    • karen62012

      Thank you, Father, for your wise and true observation. The 3 Horsemen of the Apocalypse (the Red Horse, the Black Horse and the Pale Horse) ride quite freely today, against the White Horse. I guess they always did… and always shall… in this world, this “kingdom.”

    • Reasonable2012

      All good points, sir. What you say probably does account for the bulk of the hate directed at the Pope. People do not want to be held accountable, to be told there are limits or boundaries…especially hearing it from other people. Now, I do not need to have some other human brow-beating me, because the force of reality and an intrinsic link with That Unimaginable Itself, is constantly reminding me of how costly a misstep can be.

      But it seems most people do not have that problem, or maybe That Unimaginable is working with them on different issues. For example, as you say, so many people believe that by them saying over and over that homosexuality is normal and natural and good, that it will become so. No, it will not. Brow-beating these people will not change their thinking either.

      We could talk about the Islamic radicals and how they believe it is ok to lie to non-believers and that non-believers have no right to live. How do people get this trapped into their spiritually isolated minds???

      For my part, I know the history of the Church. Its bloodshed, and pillaging: Gold, Land, Slaves, and Women. The lesson of self-sacrifice is the rarest of spiritual diamonds, but that lesson and that name was largely hijacked for other ends.

      • http://opcentral.org/ Andrew Mark McAlpin

        Humans are generally disasters waiting to happen or are happening. Whether in or out of the Church or a belief system, people do evil things. Fact. But how sad is it that we only remember or announce the evil and ignore the good. The hospitals, the schools, the missions, the work of so many religious sisters…all too often forgotten because we like it when people fail…so sad.

    • Teresa Davis McCormick

      Thank you Father, for your comment.

    • $37672888

      You don’t think so, asshole? I would in a hot second. I loathe priests. You’re a bunch of sexually dysfunctional, lazy, do-nothing sycophants who get fat off handouts from the people you’ve hoodwinked. You’re not a man. You’re nothing. You’re a poncing, effeminate, effete useless welfare queen. No one is ignoring abuse by others. It’s creeps like you who try to deflect your own disgusting actions by pointing to other abusers and whining about how it’s not faiiirr, wahwahwah, because they’re doing it too. Man up. Grow a pair, you pathetic little coward, and accept responsibility for the organization you CHOSE to join.

      • Susan

        Wow! And the demon rears its ugly head….

      • http://opcentral.org/ Andrew Mark McAlpin

        Like I said, Twitter allows anonymous posting and distant realities. I said it was rare, but not unheard of. Your hatred toward me is odd and disturbing. Therefore I will leave it alone as you seem to have some serious reason for harboring such profound emotions for people you have never met.

        For those on this board still reading this, the issue of sexual abuse of children is very serious as is the case in this exchange of comments. One never knows who has been harmed by the clergy or anyone in such a disturbing manner. sevenbridgesroad, if anyone in the Church has abused you or anyone close to you, I am deeply sorry. You are in my prayers.

    • TexasMeow

      Father, I don’t have a religion, but I believe in God. Nobody is perfect, but I try to stand up for what I feel is right. Not just on line, but to some ones face too when needed. I still think there are a lot of good people in this world. I agree, lot’s of cowards hide behind their keyboards and they usually are the ones that cry the loudest when they get caught. But, I’m happy to report the good people I have met online, far outweigh the negtive ones. So, chin up. We are still here supporting you.

  • Carlmann

    The same flaws in humanity from 1000 years ago are still with us. No evolution there

  • Brad

    This is more of that liberal tolerance we all hear so much about.

    • karen62012

      Yep. The 7 Deadly Sins … rule the land. I guess they always did, in one form or another, and to lesser or greater degrees in every era. We have the Word of God (Bible & Church) to guide us in right judgment and behavior. So, our digression into the depravity of Rome & Greece deserves a … more severe punishment for much more has been given us — The Truth & Grace to know The Truth — than was given to them.

      • ForTheRepublic

        I can even think of certain people that represent them all:

        Gluttony: Michael Moore
        Lust: Anthony Wiener
        Pride: Susan Rice
        Sloth: Hillary Clinton
        Wrath: Barack Obama
        Vanity: Michelle Obama
        Envy: Every liberal that ever existed. Ever.

  • Emjay Grakykat

    Twitter is for people who either want to share information or are cowards who hide behind a moniker. These must be the kids who got bullied in school and this is their way of self-medication to heal their emotional wounds.

    • Timothy Noonan

      Yes, blame the victims of bullying. It is their fault for being picked on and abused.

  • GTFOBigGovt

    Maybe having a Twitter account was on the Pope’s bucket list as a sort of penance. I can’t think of why the man would otherwise subject himself to it.

  • Timothy Noonan

    The pope has earned both the praise and castigation he has received and will receive. For all the good the RC church had done, their poor response to the child abuse done by their priests sullies the good it has done.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CQBLALW7IHH3KKGRH5BJFKQNQY Bob

    With all that hate being spewed at him you’d think the Pope was a Republican running against Communism’s little darling, B. Hussein al-Obama.

  • GETALIFE

    Judgement day is coming, and all the haters and non believers will get what they deserve…Let those people follow obama I will follow God

  • catholicguy

    welcome to the age of moral relativism. anything goes, nothing is wrong, truth is plural, one equals two, and true equals false.

    • Lee

      Okay, now this is interesting – as opposed to the days of a single church with an infallible leader (Would we call this moral absolutism?). Seems like the relativism’s always been there, since subsequent popes have effectively changed their minds… Not trying to start a fight here, just not sure what you mean.

      • catholicguy

        Should read JPII and Benedict’s encyclicals on moral relativism. Example, in Africa, polygamy might be accepted as a social norm, but in the West of course it is a stigma. Moral relativism is the wavering of moral precepts according to social or economic standards of the locale. Wrong is wrong no matter the social construct you find yourself in. If a law were passed saying that it is acceptable to have slaves, the law does not dictate the change moral understanding that all slavery is wrong. Similarly one could use abortion as an issue…. or contraception.

    • $37672888

      You’re talking about the Catholic Church, right? Because “anything goes” was their attitude towards the sex abuse scandal. “Truth” meant whatever a bishop wanted it to mean when he had to hide the trail of a child rapist — and procure him some fresh victims to molest. The Church is the most morally relativist organization on the planet when it comes to protecting themselves.

      • catholicguy

        Actually, the men responsible for hiding any evidence have been removed back in the early 90s. Also, since the 80s of all accused there has been less than 2% of clergy convicted of it. If you want to get down-right technical, there are twice as many cases of child abuse in secular organizations, and 1.3 times more in Protestant organizations (by insurance companies’ own records) than in Catholic institutions. It has been of course a problem, but to call it a Catholic problem is absolutely incorrect. It’s a modern moral issue.
        Remember, in the 80’s was the gay-pride explosion. It was also the decade that NAMBLA petitioned the Supreme Court for recognition of a valid sexual preference. These of course were opposed by Christian churches, Protestant and Catholic alike. The “sex abuse” scandals on all sides of the fence (secular, Catholic and Protestant) is a result of wavering morals–moral relativism.

        Do you want the insurance companies’ own admissions of these numbers? Or do you just want to parrot the mainstream line that the boogiemen Catholic clergy are responsible for all child abuse?

        • $37672888

          So it’s about numbers and percentages and insurance companies? That’s it? That’s what the lives shredded by the disgusting actions of sick, prideful, arrogant men amount to? Just a bunch of statistics? So much for the sanctity of life. So much for the value of each and every human being. You’re a complete and utter hypocrite. Spout your insurance company statistics to someone who cares. I know what you are, and no amount of hiding behind a bunch of numbers will change that.

          • catholicguy

            ha. It is about sanctity of life. I am not excusing the men who did that, by no means. I am simply setting the record straight that it is not solely a Catholic problem. The men who were RIGHTLY convicted should and are spending time in prison. End of story.

            I am merely stating that this happens twice as much in secular organizations than in Christian. Since the scandals, churches are required to take out insurance policies and have taken steps to avoid issues like these. As insurance companies’ records show, lay people are more likely to commit these terrible acts than clergymen.

            How in the word would you think that I am defending such terrible acts? I do however attack the notion that it is a Catholic problem–as the media tries to spin it to be.

          • $37672888

            You’re excusing it by playing the “but they did it too” card.

            It’s ALL wrong. It’s WORSE for the Catholic Church because of who they claim to be.

            The good news is the scandal showed us once and for all that the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, including the pope, are nothing special. They’re just people. That’s all. There’s no holy spirit at work, there’s no woo woo magic turning bread into the flesh of Christ. There’s just a bunch of guys who set up a prideful, arrogant all-boys’ club and who played dirty politics and who lied and knowingly — knowingly — moved abusive priests from parish to parish. The curtain was pulled back, and we saw the nothingness behind the facade.

            And look at you and the rest of the defenders of the scandalous behavior of the priests and hierarchy — still defending, still deflecting, still pretending it wasn’t pure evil from start to finish.

            Dude, that makes what you do of Satan, not of God. And that’s all I need to know about you.

          • catholicguy

            Again, you’re imposing what a few men did upon the entire hierarchy. That’s absolutely wrong. If you want to look at fruits–then let’s look at Protestant Christianity. 33,000 plus denominations that claim to be led by the Holy Spirit in discernment of Sacred Scripture. If that were true, then there would be One protestant church, and one faith — as Ephesians 4:5 states: One lord, One baptism, and One faith.

            By your logic, you are saying if a handful of Presbyterian or Baptist or Anabaptist or Lutheran or Assemblies of God or Church of Christ or Anglican or Episcopalian or Jehovah’s Witness or Mormon or Corpus Christi or Old Catholic or Evangelicals or Pentecostals or (Gosh, i could go on and on) clergy did the same (and they have) , then the ENTIRE denomination is guilty of it.

            Please, get real buddy.

          • $37672888

            The problem with lies and conspiracies and cover-ups and continued arrogance is that no one is to be trusted now. No one. Every time we’re told that it was all in the past, that priests like that can’t get into seminary, that bishops will do the right thing now, it all happens again anyway. I can’t tell you how many times someone like you told me the Catholic Church is the safest place in the world for kids now because it’s all come to light, it’s all in the open and perverts can’t get into the priesthood and bishops will report the first sign of impropriety, blahblahblah, and then, wham-bam, the Ratigan-Finn scandal, proving that it was all just another lie in a long string of lies.

            Dude, none of you have any credibility anymore. I didn’t do that to you. You did it to yourselves. Deal with it.

          • catholicguy

            And you’re absolutely right. It is ALL wrong. Clearly I wasn’t saying “it’s OK because they did it,” go back and read without your fervor putting words in my mouth.

            Venerable Bishop Fulton Sheen was absolutely right when he said that millions do not hate the Catholic Church–millions hate the Catholic Church for what they believe the Catholic Church believes.

            I am active in my local parish, and I had to under go a background check, and go through a course to spot people who might be predators. It’s called “Protect God’s Children.” Will it ever happen again? Yes, because the Church is filled with humans, like any other organization. When you find a perfect church, the moment you step into it, you’ve just corrupted it.

            After the scandals, we have become more aware (Protestant and Catholic alike) of what to look for and guard against. This is the product of a sexualized culture–and the Catholic Church is still the bulwark in fighting in this age.

            No other Christianity has stood against the evils of contraception that has caused the demeaning and objectification of women in our modern age.

            Abortion: same thing (the Baptist Convention just recently reversed a council result of supporting abortion in cases of rape & incest).

            Culture of death: (sterilization; eugenics; and ending of life in vegetative states) … Catholic.

            Obamacare: you guessed it… Catholic.

            Imperfect men will always be a part of the Church–thus the need for redemption by the Blood of Christ. Does that nullify spiritual punishment due? No it does not. Forgiveness does not nullify the need for penance. The same goes for breaking local (in this case Federal) laws. The men guilty of doing that sort of thing deserves everything they receive. As a Christian man, I struggle with the ability to forgive something like that and I need Jesus for that strength. I thank God that I have not personally experienced this and I feel for every person who has suffered at the hands of any sexual predator.

            As Christians, though, (this is something many do not want to hear) if someone repents, we are also required to forgive them as well. This is where we need the help of our Lord.

          • $37672888

            Yeah, yeah…excuses, rationalizations, deflection…whatever. No one believes you anymore. Me and my kids will stay far, far away from Catholics and their Church. You’re not trustworthy.

          • catholicguy

            Buddy there’s no deflections here. All i hear coming from you is ad hominem arguments and assumptions.

            I will go to my grave with the peace knowing that I raised my children in the Church that has the fullness of the truth. The One faith espoused in Ephesians 4:5. That I taught them the fallacies and falsities of sola scriptura and sola fide`. That I did not turn my back on His Church because of some bad apples.

            If I were to judge the entire hierarchical Church based upon the actions of a few sick men, it would be like leaving Jesus because of the actions of Judas.

            I thank God that He brought me out of the dark so that I could bring my children into the fullness of His Church — the unbroken line of apostolic succession in the Bishops from the days of Peter whereupon he was given the keys to heaven (Matthew 16:18-19).

            I will defend His bride until the day I die.

          • $37672888

            Yeah, I’m sure your kids will thank you for handing them over to rapists and molesters. I’m sure your quite at peace in your own mind for thinking you’re better than everyone else, above everyone else, and can speak for God when you condemn non-Catholics like you just did. Good luck with that. I’m pretty sure God doesn’t take kindly to asswipes like you telling other people who He may love and redeem. It ain’t your call, dude. You’re just some loser guy who clearly doesn’t have a job and spends all day on Twitter. Be a man. Get a job. Loser.

          • http://twitter.com/codephined Daniel Brooks

            I didn’t condemn anyone, brother. In fact, I wouldn’t return the favor of being as nasty as you have been in this dialogue. Reading your history of Disqus posts, you have a serious problem with Catholics. I was like you at one time.

            All I did was speak the historical facts. The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus who appointed Peter as ambassador… and praise God for his eternal Catholic (Greek: katholikos; Latin: Catholic; meaning universal) Church. Did Christ not found a universal Church? One that holds the same faith across the face of the earth? That holds mass every single day (that’d be in Acts, by the way)?

            If I were you and if you call yourself a Christian, I’d seriously re-examine myself and the way I speak to fellow Christians.

            And I have a job, I’m a software developer and work nearly every single day :)

            God bless you

          • http://twitter.com/codephined Daniel Brooks

            Maybe I should clarify more. The closer you are to the Catholic Church, the closer you are to the fullness of the truth.

            Am I saying that Protestants cannot achieve salvation? Absolutely not–that is only for God to decide. I can however say that the doctrines of sola scriptura and sola fide`, the two major pillars of Protestantism are not biblical and definitely were not held in Church tradition (although tradition of the Church fathers is not held outside of the Church).

            Sola scriptura is the teaching that all you need is the scripture. Everything can be taught from the scripture… but this teaching itself is not held in scripture.

            Sola fide` or faith alone was Luther’s (and the Reformation’s) main tenant. The only place in scripture you find the words “faith” and “alone” are in James, where he says (James 2:24) “You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.” .. and he says that you are Not justified by faith alone. Because of this, Luther wanted to remove the Book of James, calling it an “Epistle of straw,” and his first published bible was without James. Later he re-added it after fellow Reformers scolded him over it.

            So, I know that the Catholic Church is not perfect. I also know by history and Reformer tradition (traditions of men; Luther, Calvin & Wesley) that Protestantism was born out of rebellion and protest.

            Am I saying that Protestants do not have truth? Absolutely not. We Catholics call Protestants “separated brethren,” as they are our brothers and sisters in Christ but do not possess the fullness of the truth. But, what good is knowing the full truth without sharing it?–nothing!

            My journey to Catholicism came after studying the early Church. I hope all separated brethren can one day experience the fullness of the truth as passed down over two millennia preaching the crucified Christ (1 Corinthians 1:23). It isn’t out of arrogance that I’m posting this but out of love of the Church that Jesus established and that I found was waiting for me to discover and in the hope that others can discover.

  • Testicules

    I see the liberal sheep are bleating the word “pedophile” as they have been programmed.

    FACT: A member of a Teachers Union is approximately 100 times more likely to be a pedophile than a Catholic Priest.

    FACT: A member of a Teachers Union is approximately 10 times more likely to be a pedophile than a Boy Scout Leader.

    • Timothy Noonan

      So does what you claim make what the priests did okay? That each abused child lost the pedophilia lottery. The problem included the lack of response by the supposed church leaders. They just sent their problem priests to another parish instead of having them arrested. They, the Holy See, failed their flock miserably and made the job of the good priests more difficult.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

        Testicules’ point is that the LSM focuses almost exclusively on the sexual transgressions of certain members of the Catholic clergy, and not on similar transgressions committed by a greater number of teachers and administrators.

        It’s almost like the LSM has an agenda or something…

        • Timothy Noonan

          Agend!!??…The sexual abuse scandal deserves the coverage it received and still receives. People gave priest blind trust. Priests honor and trust was never doubted, in fact, if you did you were the one who got trouble. Told “How dare you say that about Father so-and-so”. If there are media outlets that choose not to cover this story then they are doing a disservice to their readers/listeners/watchers.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            No the Catholic sex abuse scandal deserves coverage. But that the LSM refuses to cover sexual abuse committed by teachers I think reveals an anti-Catholic bias worthy of the Know-Nothings.

            http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/02/is_sexual_abuse_in_schools_very_common_.html

          • Timothy Noonan

            Slate is published by the Washington Post, maligned as a liberal rag by cons, so you really just refuted your own argument. Cheers!

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            Not really. I did say almost exclusively.

            My point stands: there is hardly any outrage from the LSM or from our Leftist bien pensants about sexual abuse by teachers.

          • Timothy Noonan

            We disagree. Cheers!

      • Testicules

        Wow, you are really tying yourself up in knots there with your desperate attempts at spin and obfuscation.

        Hint:

        Where is the problem primarily located?

        Who has been made a focal point of liberal hate propaganda?
        Who is the source of dim-o-crit political money?

        • Timothy Noonan

          You are trying to diminish an institutional problem of the RC Church with the problems of other institutions. Sheep of all coats have been abused because they have told to not question authority, especially true of the Church. The problem is the Church’s and not the coverage of it by media outlets. If the RC Church addresses the problem, the coverage by the media will stop.

          • Testicules

            On an abstract level, one may argue the appropriateness of the severity of punishments and relative effectiveness of their attempts to prevent and punish such acts; but claiming that they have somehow not attempted to address it is a disgusting, hate filled, bald faced, lie.

            Their relative performance compared to other groups not only proves that propaganda you are bleating like a mindless sheep is a ridiculous lie, but makes a good case that their actions are in fact effective.

          • Timothy Noonan

            Lie? No. The Church did no address their problems. they spread the offenders around to harm more children. The Church should be setting the highest standard of behaviour by priests when caring for children. When compared to the church, other institutions are doing much better.

            When their priests fail the children and parents of their flock by molesting them, they should be laicized and turned over to law enforcement for investigation as a criminal.

            Sheep? You are blinded by your faith and follow your shepherd to sin.

    • $37672888

      So that makes it okay for a priest to molest a child? Also, the pedophilia is sick and twisted, but the decades and decades of covering up the offenses and then moving the molesting priests to newer, fresher crops of victims is what’s really evil here. But you’re fine with that. Right.

  • Lee

    While I think that several of the rude tweets posted above are beyond the pale, I can tell where most of the traffic on this board came from… Look folks, the simple truth of the matter is that liberal, conservative, moderate, or just indifferent; we all carry on like a bunch of hooligan fans rioting at a sports game. What I feel is the best argument in favor of free speech from any western political philosopher (Mill) was made/supported by the notion that the public must be able to discuss and debate their opinions for their own betterment. I don’t see anyone saying anything like that in these comments. Most discouraging….

  • GETALIFE

    Envy, liberals envy what people have earned to get out of life, from working hard and waiting to receive it

  • Buddy P

    Sorry, I don’t understand Twitter. I don’t need messages from a high school chum from 40 years ago, telling me he just took a dump. Or my niece tweeting me with anything that starts out with OMG.

  • GETALIFE

    Gluttony…Liberals wanting every thing, and taking it from people who have work for it

  • GETALIFE

    Pride, criticize, everyone and anyone not believing their ways

  • GETALIFE

    Lust…Liberals want to take away and have everything other people have…Look at Hollywood…

  • GETALIFE

    Sloth…Liberals condemning spiritual or emotional apathy, neglecting what God has spoken, and being physically and emotionally inactive. Sloth can also indicate a wasting due to lack of use, concerning a person, place, thing, skill, or intangible ideal that would require maintenance, refinement, or support to continue to exist.

  • GETALIFE

    Liberals…Greed is the inordinate desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one’s self, far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort.

  • AffanGul

    People HATE the truth, People HATE anything that reminds them that they are NOT the center of the Universe. People HATED Jesus, just like these rabble hate Benedict.

    • Reasonable2012

      You know who hated Jesus? Yes, people who wanted to do things they knew were wrong, and not be reminded of it. You know who else? People who metaphorically fed off of other people through authority. The people who created and sustained a pyramid-scheme hierarchical control structure for feeding off of those “below” themselves.

      Bankers, government officials, business men, politicians, and RELIGIOUS LEADERS.

      Guess what? These same people hate what Jesus represents today. Truth be told, though the Pope carries a hijacked name, Jesus would berate the ever-loving dog s$#! out of him. These huge churches and that gold throne, and the fancy robes all speak to selfishness, self-importance, and greed. And the history of the Church? Violence and bloodshed.

      Not just to pick on the Pope and Catholic church as this applies to all our control-based religions. But you get my point?

      Oh hell no, the Pope would not be happy with what Jesus had to say to him. Further, the Pope would not be eager to do what Jesus asked him to do in order to correct the situation. Sell those damn churches and feed the hungry. Find homes for the children. Wash people’s feet and care for the sick and dying. Don’t tell people how to live: SHOW THEM.

      • worldtrader

        There is no greater source of providing for the needy, downtrodden, homeless, hungry, sick and dying across the globe than the Catholic church. Your rant about what the church should do proves that you have no clue as to what the Catholic church does do worldwide 24/7/365.

    • Lady 12

      Don’t forget the early apostles (which, by the way, I think the pope is closer to than Jesus, meaning NO disrespect.) The early church faced much the same kinds of criticisms, where people spread lies about them and intentionally misinterpreted what they said and did. Apparently some things just never change.

    • $37672888

      No, people hate hypocrisy. People hate a mere man who thinks it’s okay to give a pass to child raping priests and then goes on to tell us how frickin’ holy he is 24/7. Maybe he should get a job and support himself instead of living on welfare handouts.

  • GETALIFE

    Wrath..Liberals Anger is an emotion related to one’s psychological interpretation of having been offended, wronged or denied and a tendency to react through retaliation

  • Lee

    Interesting how the same comments are coming up repeatedly…

  • http://twitter.com/Nick11766 Nick11766

    This is all about Free Speech. After all the gov’t (and their corporate cronies) censor the media and ban books like “America Deceived II”.

    Last link of “America Deceived II” before it is completely censored:

    http://www.amazon.com/America-Deceived-II-Possession-interrogation/dp/1450257437

  • John Holland

    How dare twitter followers mention rampant, institutional pedophilia in the Catholic church

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

      Do you think all Muslims are terrorists, John?

      • withpower

        I’m sure now that Obama’s in the White House, yes, yes he does.

        It was different before.

      • John Holland

        Of course not. What does that have to do with institutionalized pedophilia in the Catholic Church? Are you suggesting I think all Catholics are pedophiles? Of course not I’m simply stating that there is institutionalized pedophilia in the Catholic Church. That is true. Is that hate?

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

          At no point did I deny the scandals within the Church. I am simply suggesting that you, and those like you, have selective outrage.

    • sindexter

      i know , why can’t they do the true christian thing and pretend like it didn’t happen just like every other vile act committed in “his ” name

    • Testicules

      I see the liberal sheep are bleating the word “pedophile” as they have been programmed.

      FACT: A member of a Teachers Union is approximately 100 times more likely to be a pedophile than a Catholic Priest.

      FACT: A member of a Teachers Union is approximately 10 times more likely to be a pedophile than a Boy Scout Leader.

  • Leonard_Wood

    Wow, heck I am not at all religious; but why the hate?? Rediculous.

  • GETALIFE

    Well, being a good person, I don’t have room in my heart for hate…That is how people are suppose to be….Love thy neighbors

  • Joe W.

    Gotta love those “tolerant”, “loving” liberals, eh?? (((SPIT)))

    • Streetiebird

      Which of the tweeters were liberals??

      • Joe W.

        My guess is virtually ALL of them, birdie. Anyone using that sort of profane rhetoric towards the Pope must be an irrational moon bat. In other words…a liberal.

        • Streetiebird

          Yeah, I thought that would be your guess :) Thanks for confirming my suspicion that you label everyone a liberal when you want to hate them. Twitchy has taught you well.

          • Joe W.

            Truth hurts. eh Bird Brain??

          • $37672888

            Joe is showing us what an exemplary Christian he is. Because we will know they are Christians by their love. ;~)

          • Streetiebird

            <3!

    • $37672888

      Sorry we don’t “tolerate” human rights violations. And some of us are not liberals at all. I’m quite fiscally and socially conservative, actually. I just don’t tolerate abuse regardless of where it comes from. It’s called integrity. Why don’t you go try and cultivate some?

      • Joe W.

        Whom did the Pope abuse, son?? Whatever do you know of integrity, when you blindly support such vitriol towards the man?

        • $37672888

          Who knows? Who will ever know the truth about any Catholic now? You’re all tainted by the cover ups and conspiracies. None of you are to be trusted.
          And I’m nobody’s “son”. I’m female.

          I know plenty about integrity, dear. I learned it from seeing the opposite practiced time and time again by Catholics.

          • Joe W.

            And I am NOT Catholic, “lady”…And you are a most infantile “lady”, at that.

          • $37672888

            Whatever, dear. You’re throwing in with the Catholics on this one, you get tarred with the same brush.

          • Joe W.

            I’m not “throwing in” with anyone, shitforbrains. I’m merely calling you our for your irrational and unfounded accusations against the current Pope. You have tried and convicted the man with absolutely ZERO evidence of any wrongdoing whatsoever. And I am NOT your “dear”, either. Condescending wench.

          • $37672888

            I haven’t said one word about this Pope, uh, “shitforbrains”. Can you even read?

  • angelccorr

    This is just a lot of self-hatred going out into the world. It is so sad that these people think so little of themselves. They need to be told that God loves them, and I am sure that is what Pope Benedict intends to do.

  • Omnis Validus

    Awww, my tweet isn’t shown above. Must try harder! 😉

  • sindexter

    So when is the church going to start paying taxes ?

    • Testicules

      When are you going to start paying taxes?

      Let me guess, after you cash out your EBT card, and you see a line labeled “sales tax” on the liquor store receipt, you… er… “think” that makes you a “taxpayer”…

      When are they going to start taxing welfare benefits? It is unearned income…

      • sindexter

        LOL what a pathetic attempt to dive away from the question , i’ve always had a job since i was 14 and paid my taxes every step of the way whats their BS excuse – God needs it LOL

    • EOD

      United States Constitution

      Amendment I

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

      SInce Liberals have determined that the word Free in the First Amendment does not mean the Freedom to participate in Religious Expression when and where one chooses, one must then conclude that the word Free in the First Amendment means that Religions are not to be Taxed by the Government.

      • sindexter

        Any organisation which makes a profit !!! must be taxed

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

          So you’re okay with unions, public broadcasting, the Sierra Club, Lambda Legal, moveon.org, the Brookings Institute, and other non-profits being taxed?

          • sindexter

            yep every single organisation that makes a PROFIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!! should be taxed regardless of whether u think its a “good ” cause or not

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            Why?

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            Well said.

          • Guest

            Why?

        • EOD

          Just where would one find such an addendum to the Constitution of the United States?

      • http://www.facebook.com/riding.giants.1 Riding Giants

        hmmm. You had to try pretty hard on that one.

        • EOD

          Does the verbiage the free exercise thereof denote that Religious Expression when and where one chooses is a Federal Right or not?

    • Teresa Davis McCormick

      Non profit organizations do not pay taxes. That includes a wide range of churches and charities. Oh but give it time….Obama will find a way.

    • MEY

      The Catholic Church educates 2.6 million students every day, at a cost of $10 billion a year to parents and parishes. If there were no Catholic schools, these same students would have to be educated in public schools, which would cost $23 billion to American taxpayers. In secondary education alone, the Church has more than 230 colleges and universities in the U.S. with an enrollment of 700,000 students. In terms of health care, the Church has a non-profit hospital system comprising of 637 hospitals which treat one in five patients in the United States every day. Every city and town benefits from Catholic organizations. In Chicago alone, there are hundreds of Catholic organizations that serve the needs of that city. One of those is Catholic Charities which provides 2.2 million free meals to the hungry and needy each year. That is 6,027 meals a day, in one city. Does anyone really have any desire to see what our nation (and our taxes) would look like without these businesses and the services they provide?

  • http://pinterest.com/j0s1395/ Josephine (D)

    I wonder how many “Catholic” Democrats are turning a blind eye to this liberal hate. The KKK, founded by Democrats, is very anti-Catholic. The left makes me sick.

    Welcome to Twitter, Your Holiness.

  • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

    Actually the only shame is on the Catholic church and it’s practices.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

      Do you think all Muslims are terrorists?

      • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

        Of course not.

    • Testicules

      Yes, good liberals know that they are told to hate, Hate, HATE! (foam, slobber) anything Christian, especially Catholics. The propaganda tells them so, and they blindly and mindlessly obey, even if they really don’t know why…

      • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

        I’m not a liberal….

        • Testicules

          So, you are an apolitical hate filled liar then?

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            I haven’t told any lies.

    • Teresa Davis McCormick

      you really have no idea what the Church “practices” do you? Maybe you should get a better understanding about a subject before you comment. You look stupid.

      • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

        Actually seeing your picture there, you look stupid. Being that I was raised a catholic and haven’t been religious for over 30 years now, I have a complete and thorough understanding of the catholic church and it’s practices. Seemingly that way you commented, you probably know very little about your own religion.

        • Teresa Davis McCormick

          i commented to you above before seeing this comment. I personally like my picture. It seems you want to make a statement with yours. And do try to remember, no matter what you say, or what you do, Jesus died for You too. I will pray you remember that. And please don’t lie about the Church. It just makes you look pathetic.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            No one dies for someone else’s sins. Especially sins that haven’t been committed yet by people who haven’t been born yet. The brainwashing of the masses is amazing and you are foolish to have fallen for it. There are no eyewitness accounts or records of Jesus. The gospels of Mark, Matt, Luke and John all totally contradict themselves on the story of Jesus and most importantly, the resurrection which is the main tenet of Christianity. When you can disprove what bible scholars who studied for years like Bart Erhman and Dan Barker say, then come back to me. I don’t buy your nonsense. Besides, you should follow your religion and be more Christ like and not be condescending to people who don’t believe in your religion. Huge fail here on your part.

          • Teresa Davis McCormick

            Once again, an atheist telling a Christian to be more “Christian”. You can make all the comments you want. You end up looking foolish yourself. First of all you tell me i’m wrong to be a Christian then you say I should be a better one. Doesn’t make much sense. But then again looking through your comments on this thread show that you are not very good at making rational argument. Being bashed as a Christian is not new, you are not unique, or fresh. Heck, you even made a pic and false name so you could come on here to bash Christians, I mean, how silly is that. The only person who has been condescending to people who don’t believe in their own ideas is you. You have some sick pleasure out of insulting Catholics. Well insult away behind your fake name and your hateful picture, I can take it, Jesus took more punishment for believing in me so I think I can handle you.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            Wow, your obviously hurt that I tell you you are delusional. Yes, refuting nonsense is in no way unique but it is fun! Lets see, someone who wears torture devices around their necks, believes in talking snakes, talking donkeys, 600 YO people, a god who floods the earth intentionally, magically impregnates some woman with himself and then engineers his own sons death, and you try to claim there’s something wrong with me? This is great comedy here.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeBeq0i03bg Booker

    Heeeeeeeey Papa! Good to see the Pope is taking advantage of Twitter.

    • TundraThunder

      The Vatican might be sorry they’re using S*itter (*=h). They’re going to read more garbage than they ever expected, but it can be printed out and used as toilet tissue.

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeBeq0i03bg Booker

        That was rich. They might even sell the tissue in Vatican City gift shops. Lol.

  • Triggerpuller

    Disgusting people really just very pathetic. I guess Catholics need to take to the streets do some violence and the leftist elite would ignore them too.

    The message is- want religious respect? Gotta do nasty things every time there is an offense.

    Good thing MOST religions arent packed with folks who will saw off someone’s head for being offended.

  • http://alert-up-usa.com/ AlertUpUSA

    Even on twitchy the level of hate is high. It is truly sad to see this level of ignorance. Nothing has changed since Jesus was here. They still hate him. Remember forgiveness is The most powerful weapon.

    • TundraThunder

      There is no way Twitchy users show hate like those talking about the Pope.

  • pdx73

    This is why I refuse to demean myself and get a twitter account. That forum is full of ignorant hatemongers who get some sort of fulfillment by leveling the basest form of hate toward those they don’t like. I have no use for cretins like that.

    • TundraThunder

      Agreed! I had a Twit account for about 2 days, and then stopped it.

  • leatherneck101

    People who create hate speech in anonymity do not have the courage to spout it in public and show their faces. If you are proud of what you say have the courage to face the wrath. Ever notice that people who commit terrorist acts and run through the streets of “peaceful” muslim cities have masks on to hide their identity and use their heavy weapons around schools and hospitals? This compares to the idiots who are cowards and post their leftist hate talking points without identifying themselves. If you are proud of what you do and say then own it in public. If not the STFU.

  • gschrank

    these tweets are funny. what do you expect when you are a former nazi and now head of the world’s largest hate group that also dabbles in pedophilia?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

      Do you think all Muslims are terrorists?

      • StuPedasso

        Most, if not all terrorists are…wait for it…..muslim…tadaaaaa!!!!

    • EOD

      Muslims outnumber Catholics, and word is Mohammed liked ’em young, very young as a matter of fact.

    • Shawn Smith

      He was all of eighteen by 1945. By calling him a Nazi, you’re simply blaming him for being born in the wrong place at the wrong time. Expecting a 12-18 year old to become a conscientious objector in an environment like that is absurd.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

      former nazi

      O RLY?

      New pope defied Nazis as teen during WWII

      TRAUNSTEIN,
      Germany (AP) — Blinds drawn, windows closed, Joseph Ratzinger huddled
      with his father and older brother around a radio and listened to Allied
      radio broadcasts, volume on low.

      It was a small and risky act of defiance in this
      conservative Bavarian village deep inside Adolf Hitler’s Germany. But
      the father wanted his sons to know the truth about the Nazis and World
      War II, says Georg Ratzinger, who like his brother drew strength from
      the Catholic Church.

      “It was strictly forbidden. Anyone who was caught
      would be sent to the concentration camps, so we did it secretively,”
      Georg Ratzinger told The Associated Press. “The German news was not true
      and he wanted to hear from the foreign services what was really
      happening.”

      The clandestine sessions were just one of the
      passive acts of resistance, evasions and escapes by the future Pope
      Benedict XVI, whose choices then — enrolling in the Hitler Youth as
      required and the Army when drafted as he approached age 18 — allowed him
      to survive.

      People who knew the Ratzingers said they were never willingly part of the Nazi machine.

      http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-04-23-new-pope-defied-Nazis_x.htm

    • MEY

      the Anti-Defamation League (www.adl.org) welcomed Benedict XVI’s election as pope and stated that he had spent his entire adult life atoning for his teenage membership in the Hitler Youth, which, by the way, was compulsory and not his choice.

    • Teresa Davis McCormick

      So so wrong and sad. Lot’s of children were indoctrinated into the “Hitler youth” as children. So you are just another troll who can’t do his own homework.,

      from Wikipedia.
      Following his 14th birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was conscripted into the Hitler Youth—as membership was required by law for all 14-year-old German boys after December 1939[10]—but was an unenthusiastic member who refused to attend meetings, according to his brother.[11] In 1941, one of Ratzinger’s cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was taken away by the Nazi regime and murdered during the Action T4 campaign of Nazi eugenics.[12] In 1943, while still in seminary, he was drafted into the German anti-aircraft corps as Luftwaffenhelfer (air force child soldier).[11] Ratzinger then trained in the German infantry.[13] As the Allied front drew closer to his post in 1945, he deserted back to his family’s home in Traunstein after his unit had ceased to exist, just as American troops established their headquarters in the Ratzinger household.[14] As a German soldier, he was put in a POW camp but was released a few months later at the end of the war in the summer of 1945.[14] He reentered the seminary, along with his brother Georg, in November of that year.

      • gschrank

        why didnt god tell him not to join? besides, where do you think he developed his message of hate and intolerance? im willing to bet he wasnt born with it.

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

          Why didn’t you read my link? Or do you simply prefer your “comforting lie” to my “comforting lie”?

          • gschrank

            please. catholics would know a thing or two about comforting lies, attempting to cover up the institutional, widespread abuse and rape of young boys

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            So you didn’t read the article, gschrank?

          • gschrank

            yeah i read your stupid article. you would hope that the future leader of your church and mouthpiece of god would have felt something awaken in his conscience during this time. but catholics are infamous for having no conscience and not speaking up

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            but catholics are infamous for having no conscience and not speaking up

            You gleaned most of what you know about the Catholic Church from “Family Guy”, didn’t you?

          • gschrank

            mother theresa didnt even believe in god towards the end of her life. i enjoyed the part of the article where the church gives credit to St Augustine and St Thomas Aquinas for coming up with evolution. especially. maybe you should fwd this article to rubio, he could use some enlightenment

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            Mother Teresa went through what is called a “dark night of the soul”, and it lasted 66 years. It happened to many Catholic mystics, particularly St. John of the Cross and St. Therese of Lisieux.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Night_of_the_Soul

            The church anticipates spiritually fallow periods. Indeed, the Spanish mystic St. John of the Cross in the 16th century coined the term the “dark night” of the soul to describe a characteristic stage in the growth of some spiritual masters. Teresa’s may be the most extensive such case on record. (The “dark night” of the 18th century mystic St. Paul of the Cross lasted 45 years; he ultimately recovered.) Yet Kolodiejchuk sees it in St. John’s context, as darkness within faith. Teresa found ways, starting in the early 1960s, to live with it and abandoned neither her belief nor her work. Kolodiejchuk produced the book as proof of the faith-filled perseverance that he sees as her most spiritually heroic act.

            http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1655720,00.html#ixzz2E16ZwQkU

            Because she never denied God, her troubles didn’t stop her from being beatified, and will not stop her eventual canonization.

          • gschrank

            whatever. enjoy your grown up fairy tale, sheep

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            “There are 100 people in the world who hate the Catholic Church, and there are 100,000,000 who hate what they think the Catholic Church is.”

            Bishop Fulton J. Sheen

          • gschrank

            here’s an article for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas
          • http://www.facebook.com/riding.giants.1 Riding Giants

            At least you can admit your religion is a lie. Good for you.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            Meh, if you can’t understand quotation marks, that’s your problem.

        • Teresa Davis McCormick

          you obviously didn’t read my comment at all. membership into the Hitler Youth was “required”

          re·quired (r-kwrd)

          adj.

          1. Needed; essential: missing several required parts.

          2. Obligatory: required reading.

    • HughGKnutts

      If only they could figure out a way to keep all the gay men from deceptively becoming priests to target little boys.

  • IMwatching

    These people are repulsive pigs. I dont care if you dont like the pope, at least have some respect.

    • $37672888

      I hope you say that to all the Catholic bloggers who say hateful things about Obama.

  • http://www.facebook.com/riding.giants.1 Riding Giants

    All religions are man-made for the purpose of controlling the populous. Needing religion for your ‘moral compass’ is just like kids needing Santa for theirs.

    • EOD

      All Governments are man-made for the purpose of controlling the populous. Needing Government for your moral compass is just like kids needing Saint Nicholas for theirs

      • http://www.facebook.com/riding.giants.1 Riding Giants

        I totally agree.

        • karen62012

          Then chaos and anarchy is your system of choice?

          • http://www.facebook.com/riding.giants.1 Riding Giants

            yes. Self-governance is another way to say it.

    • Guest

      Does anyone want to disagree with me? No, because if you did, you wont get any pres..I mean, you’ll go to HELL! haha.

  • Baiambo

    What’s a “Pope”?

    • Teresa Davis McCormick

      The pope (from Latin: papa; from Greek: πάππας
      (pappas), a child’s word for father) is the Bishop of Rome and the
      leader of the worldwide Catholic Church.

  • http://profiles.google.com/dutra123123 Joe Dutra

    I am convinced that Satan is a liberal democrat.

    • http://www.facebook.com/riding.giants.1 Riding Giants

      That doesn’t surprise me.

    • Streetiebird

      Which of these tweeters were liberals?

  • LeishaC

    Wow. In addition to being flaming idiots, liberals have no class. I’m not Catholic and I don’t personally accept the pope as God’s spokesman, but I respect him and the Catholic Church. Guess not only are haters gonna hate, but classless people show no class.

  • Teresa Davis McCormick

    If the Roman Catholic Church changed to appease the world, then it couldn’t claim to be built on Peter the Rock. But the truth doesn’t change.

  • David Massey

    I don’t care one way or the other if the catholic’s pope has a twitter account or facebook account or whatever. Why is this newsworthy anyway? The news is full of non-news stories and this is just another example next to the latest “news” about Lindsey Lohan!

  • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

    Reading most of these comments, it’s apparent that several of you think it’s correct to compare child sexual abuse committed by priests to teachers in our school system who have committed child sexual abuse. One surprise twist, the teachers in our school system have never claimed to have a divine link to a supposed supernatural “higher” moral authority and have never sworn to uphold it like a priest has.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

      Which makes sexual abuse by teachers (as much a moral authority as a priest) better because…?

      • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

        You cannot logically compare the two. That’s the point. A small handful of Priests claim to supposedly have a higher moral compass because of their religion and they have failed at proving it.

        • karen62012

          The PERCENTAGE of priests that have abused children compared the PERCENTAGE of teachers (and married men) is much smaller among priests than teachers. In addition, people are sinners, including priests.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            There are very few priests in ratio to teachers or other common folk. Priests who claim divine connection to a higher moral authority and have sworn on a bible to uphold a higher standard than common folk have an astoundingly higher child abuse rate. Also don’t forget married women in your abuse statistics.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            Priests who claim divine connection to a higher moral authority and have sworn on a bible to uphold a higher standard than common folk have an astoundingly higher child abuse rate.

            Cite please?

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            That speaks for itself. Of course if you don’t have your religious glasses on….

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            You made the claim, dude. Do you have a cite that proves it?

          • Teresa Davis McCormick

            Actually you are wrong again. Go to anytown One Catholic Church, usually one priest. Now go to the elementaries, the middle schools, the high schools. You see how that doesn’t work? Prob not.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            That’s right. There are way less priests than teachers which only proves the ratio of abuse to be way higher in priests. How funny, you helped to prove my point!

        • Teresa Davis McCormick

          I have never heard a priest say they had a higher moral compass because of their religion

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            Wow, are you serious? All of the members of the religious organization sure do. It’s an unspoken thing. You religious are here on these boards daily claiming moral superiority. Why would a priest bless you or marry you or be there for your funeral or lead a mass? Because he is supposedly higher on the ladder reaching to a supposed god.

          • Teresa Davis McCormick

            ooohhhh it’s an “unspoken” thing. Which means you only hear it in your head. Oh so the the priest is the only one who can bless you, or is it anyone? Apparently you didn’t pay much attention in religion class. I am a Catholic Convert. I learned my facts about the Church as an adult. Maybe that’s why I remember more. So tired of people who claim to be former Catholics spouting nonsense and hate and making people believe that’s what the faith taught them. No one is telling you to be Catholic, Christian, Jewish, Islamic, or anything in this country, you can be an atheist if you want to. So why don’t you stop bashing people’s beliefs, when no one is doing that to you? You came here freely. If you don’t like the Pope, don’t follow him on twitter. If you don’t like Christians stay away from church. Don’t go around claiming to have knowledge of certain people you have never met.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            I don’t believe in transubstantiation. Being a catholic, you do. Now who’s delusional here?

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

          Given that they are both authority figures who are entrusted with the welfare of children, I fail to see how priests and teachers can’t be compared, apart from your theophobia. That an abuser is a teacher doesn’t make it better for the child being abused.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            There are way more teachers out there than priests. Parents are the ones who are truly responsible for the welfare of their children. Teachers are not authority figures and don’t teach young minds the flawed concept of a heaven and hell like a priest does. Teachers don’t claim divine authority. Priests break their own moral codes at a staggering rate.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            Teachers are not authority figures

            /facepalm

            http://www.nea.org/home/38331.htm

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            Oh boy….Hope you don’t have children.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            Do you have a cite for your claim or not?

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            So you are saying that priests do not have a closer connection to the divine than the normal follower? So I’m wrong then?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            I’m going to highlight the claim I want you to provide a cite for:

            Priests who claim divine connection to a higher moral authority and have sworn on a bible to uphold a higher standard than common folk have an astoundingly higher child abuse rate.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            Oh brother.. Let’s start at the beginning again. How many Catholic priests are there in the world? Answer that and then we can move on to the next step.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

            And again, the onus is on you to back up any and all assertions you make. I’m not here to make your arguments for you.

          • Teresa Davis McCormick

            I hope he does and I hope whoever has hurt you so much that you’ve turned your back on God will answer for it someday. But what you do from now is up to you. You can choose Life or not. I will pray for you.

            by the way, they pic you have on your link is sad. That little child is so pitiful. That is our job, that’s what God calls us to do…..we need to be saving children like that. You can call your local Catholic Charities group and see if you can help. They always welcome help.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            Sounds like someone actually hurt you. Thank, but no thanks, I’m fine. There is no god to turn my back on. I turn my back on the false claims and delusions you promote. You religious can never wiggle out of that one no matter how hard you try.

    • HughGKnutts

      So it’s ok for gay men to infiltrate the Church to molest boys, as long as they don’t profess anything wrong with it?

      • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

        Hard to see where you get that, It’s not OK for anyone to molest anyone. Even if they think they have a divine supernatural deity on their side.

        • HughGKnutts

          Hard to see where you get that

          Not really, some nut dropped by to defend teacher pedophiles with the following comment:

          One surprise twist, the teachers in our school system have never claimed to have a divine link to a supposed supernatural “higher” moral authority and have never sworn to uphold it like a priest has.

          People just don’t think before they post. You know how those amateur atheists are. So busy copying and pasting, they don’t take the time to read what they post.

    • MEY

      One not-so-surprised twist, priests are human beings and some are subject to evil the same as any other human being

  • Joe

    Wait, isn’t it usually the trans-humanists and many atheists who like to claim moral superiority?

    • HughGKnutts

      @ReligionIsPoisonousToTheMind is trying his best to portray moral superiority, but is doing a very poor job. What happened to all the professional atheists? Nothing but amateurs here.

  • PhillyJoe

    Wow, completely disgusting.
    I am sure these people would be the first on board to worship Muhammed. Sad world we live in.

  • Peter Cephas

    These people make me feel happy I’m a Catholic and know what the Church is really all about. Sorry to say, these pitiful people are making huge fools of themselves.

    • Teresa Davis McCormick

      me too. :)

    • http://twitter.com/codephined Daniel Brooks

      Mark 13:13:
      All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

      I’ll defend His bride until the day that I die :)

  • Baiambo

    Head-banging UFO cult.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

      But enough about Obama voters.

      /rimshot

  • MEY

    do all you Catholic-hating bigots know: The Catholic Church educates 2.6 million students every day, at a cost of $10 billion a year to parents and parishes. If there were no Catholic schools, these same students would have to be educated in public schools, which would cost $23 billion to American taxpayers. In secondary education alone, the Church has more than 230 colleges and universities in the U.S. with an enrollment of 700,000 students. In terms of health care, the Church has a non-profit hospital system comprising of 637 hospitals which treat one in five patients in the United States every day. Every city and town benefits from Catholic organizations. In Chicago alone, there are hundreds of Catholic organizations that serve the needs of that city. One of those is Catholic Charities which provides 2.2 million free meals to the hungry and needy each year. That is 6,027 meals a day, in one city. Does anyone really have any desire to see what our nation (and our taxes) would look like without these businesses and the services they provide?

    • chris

      That’s all fine and dandy, but look at all the evil your church has also done and refuses to repent from. Your church is Mystery Babylon spoken of in Revelation.

    • http://www.facebook.com/riding.giants.1 Riding Giants

      It is very nice that churches do spend so much on charity. but to be fair, they spend so much on education because of the mandatory bible classes…also, my friends father builds schools (and churches) in less well to do countries, but forces them to adopted their religion and take bible classes.

      • MEY

        your friend’s father “forces them to adopted their religion and take bible classes”? Huh, that’s pretty odd for an individual to do, is he a evangelical or fundamentalist?

        • http://www.facebook.com/riding.giants.1 Riding Giants

          He is an evangelical. During the busy harvest season on his farm he brings in young college missionaries to work on his farm before going to build the schools. And I understand that evangelical’s are not catholics, but the concept is the same…money for followers. I do appreciate that the catholic church as ‘evangelical’ in that regards.

          • MEY

            well, Catholic
            education even in underdeveloped countries may include religious studies but
            conversion is NOT compulsory

  • miegaha

    PPL like this are why I don’t fear the end of the world. I hope humanity gets blown to bits. It’s what we deserve.

  • chris

    The Bible does say that the people will turn against Babylon towards the end, so this is no surprise…

  • http://www.facebook.com/riding.giants.1 Riding Giants

    Put your “discussion” tab to NEWEST. Refresh every 5-10 minutes and you’ll notice that posts are copied and pasted over and over again. sometime with different user names. And on both sides of the argument.

    • http://www.facebook.com/riding.giants.1 Riding Giants

      Trying to ‘win an argument’ by drowning out the other side isn’t respectable. This happens on all comment boards. Especially those on Drudge posted stories. Just keep an eye out for it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V4MJWF4I5RGF6WQ2ML2A6AMJLE w

    No surprise. For example, in her first column for the “New York Times” after Pope Benedict’s election, Maureen Dowd simply asserted that Benedict hates women. Yet in May 2012, the US House of Representatives voted in favor of the Prenatal Nondiscrimination Act which would have prevented abortion based on the unborn child’s sex, but the Act did not pass as it lacked the necessary two-thirds majority (it got about 58%). Yes, it was overwhelmingly Democrats who voted nay, though it is they who pose as friends of females.

  • http://twitter.com/LauraMuse_ ♡ Laura Muse

    Hello, leaver of one of those “sick” tweets here.

    You forgot to mention that, after posting my tweet (which, by the way, was posted on my own personal twitter that deals with my own opinions), I was bombarded with abuse from certain Christians.

    Apparently I am ugly, and a piece of shit. When I rightly pointed out that those comments just weren’t very darn Christian, I was abused further under the notion that the abusers “just didn’t care” about being rightly Christian. They would rather attack people who tell jokes on website. Jokes which, of course, have a very serious underlining message.

    I never care to argue over the internet, hence why I did not respond in great detail to the abusive tweets and why I will not respond to any abusive responses to this comment, but I feel it is acceptable to point out the sheer hypocrisy of Christians who abuse others for no good reason.

    Mr. Pope luvz me, so show me some love, right-wingers.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

      As someone who tries and fails (sometimes spectacularly) to be a Christian, I am sorry for the abuse that has been heaped upon you. Understand that the anger that some here express is driven by the scorn and ridicule that is heaped upon us by people who are every bit as hateful, ignorant, and bigoted as they accuse us of being.

      It is, of course, no excuse, and what those “Christians” are doing to you is a sin.

      Speaking only for myself, I apologize. God bless you.

    • http://twitter.com/ABridgeComeback Alex Bridge

      You posted some of your opinions on a public forum (Twitter IS public, btw), and are complaining that you got flak for it? I hate to break it to you, but there are Christians out there that don’t act very “Christian-like”. You complain about their hypocrisy and yet you can give it out but can’t take it? Don’t get me wrong, i’m not Catholic, I don’t have any affinity for the pope, but come on.

      Btw, i don’t dislike you personally in the slightest, i just come to conclusions about your character based on the fact that you carelessly imply in a public forum that a public figure you’ve never seen in person, let alone met or know is a homosexual pedophile.

      I’m not going to call you sick or any of the other invective directed your way, i’m just going to say a short prayer for you, and hope that behind your twitter machismo, you maybe take a step back and think about what kind of person you are and you want to be. Maybe you’ll even look at who the pope actually is, and what he actually believes.. Perhaps you would find him a little less worthy of gay jokes.

    • SturJen

      And let me point out another thing: After the last 8 years or so, my own personal tolerance for bullshit is at an all-time low. I’ve been called more names than can fit on one website simply because I am Conservative, Catholic and a Latina who refuses to sit with the others Latina slaves.
      That kind of treatment is wrong, yet you are one who called someone you do not know, nor wish to know, names simply because you heard someone tell you about the Pope. Someone you don’t even know whispers bad things about someone else and WITHOUT QUESTION, your first move is to act upon it, open your mouth and spew vile things. Ma’am, congratulations! You’ve become a puppet. Now the question you should ask yourself is one thing….Who’s hand is up your ass controlling you.
      When you can honestly answer that question, then your sentiments will be worthy of respect, but until then……….you’re just a puppet with someone’s hand up your ass controlling you. Never forget that, especially when you are too lazy learn something- just repeat what some stranger told you. Do you ever think that they have their own reason for doing that?

    • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

      People on Twitchy never realize the irony of screaming hideous things about someone posting something hideous on someones twitter. They are the most un-self-aware people in the world.

  • http://www.bywombats.com Ryan Szrama

    @Pontifex isn’t following fake accounts, just the accounts that his office will be using to translate his tweets to other languages. Article made it sound like he was following the fakes. :-/

  • el_polacko

    wait a minute…isn’t the hijacking of twitter acounts gleefully reported here on a daily basis ?? why should the pope’s hashtag be any different ? the question is what was the vatican thinking ? what the heck does the pope need a twitter account for in the first place ?!

  • rs1123

    I hope to God that none of my friends or acquaintances would be posting any of that vile, disgusting, feces-brained evil like those people on Twitter. Who are those mean, nasty, hateful bilge-spewers, to dare complain about the Pope!?

    • $37672888

      Maybe some of us are the victims of your Church’s evil deeds. Maybe some of us know the truth about what and who you people are.

  • ERMERGERD

    This one brought the trolls out.

  • Joe E

    How many people did this pope kill with drones? Oh yeah that was the president these people support as their lord and savior. Hahahahahhahh the irony ignorance and hate all rolled up in such an ugly group of people.

  • CK

    Um. May God have mercy on their souls.

  • CK

    Very sad. Not surprising at all.

  • Heretic2011

    I’m a conservative, and I welcome all the hate spewed at this child raping NAZI.

  • $21841453

    I’m hoping for Twitter-based excommunicating of the perpetually unrepentant.

    Let’s begin with Joe Biden.

    Or perhaps Twitter-based confessions.

    Definitely let’s start with Ms. Lohan (even if it turns out she’s not catholic) but 140 characters won’t cut it. Maybe just the verbs and a few grunts.

    Or Twitter-based declarations of sainthood.

    I nominate Obama’s mother. Saint Ann the Underaged……….

    I urge the pope to remain out of the social mosh pit and stay on that balcony in Rome. Less message distortion.

  • $37672888

    In all fairness, the complete and utter failure for the Catholic hierarchy and clergy to grasp the enormity of the sex abuse scandal and to immediately, finally and clearly address it once and for all leaves them open to this sort of thing. Add to that their appalling track record with women, the systematic baby stealing in countries like Spain and Australia, and even here in the US via Catholic Charities, and I hope the pope (or whatever underling is going to be in charge of this twitter account) does get a ton of hate tweets. The Church brought this on themselves and continues to bring it on themselves. When we still have bishops in the USA who can’t grasp why it’s wrong to let pedophile priests take pictures of babies’ genitalia, we still have a Catholic Church that is pure evil. And spare me the “oh, they do so much good…” crap. Or the “we’re all sinners too…” crap. If they want to claim they and they alone have the “fullness of the truth”, then they need to clean up their own act before they start laying down the moral law for everyone else. I’m not Catholic, but I do know that molesting kids and then blaming the victims is immoral. I know taking photographs of babies’ genitalia in order to satisfy your sick sexual tastes is immoral. I know stealing infants from their mothers’ wombs and then telling them their babies died is immoral. I know that telling a battered wife that it’s her fault for not praying hard enough for her husband is immoral. But I guess I’m going to hell because I won’t worship the pope and mindlessly, blindly follow whatever drivel falls out of his mouth.

  • Streetiebird

    I’m shocked, SHOCKED. That the internet did not hold its breath and treat him with special care and kid gloves.

    In other news, nasty comments were left on a YouTube video!

    • pappy

      i’m gonna find that utube video and kick its ass

    • John Fowler

      Well, I am with Streetiebird on this one. When it comes to scum and villainy, Mos Eisley has nothing on the internet. It’s my guess Anonymous just made a mess in their collective drawers the minute the Pope made an account.

  • Imperator Cydonius

    That’s why I never got onto the Twitter bandwagon. Besides that it makes people forget how to write proper English, it is populated by what seems to be the vilest scum on the planet.

  • kevintkeith

    Sounds like the impression he’s already made on people preceded him onto Twitter. Hardly grounds for complaint, whether or not the reactions are elegantly expressed.

  • MeezaThinkin

    Leave it to the Lord to deal with this. Sad behavior…

  • Carl Olson, Jr.

    Just because I loathe the Pope doesn’t mean I don’t despise the Taliban. They are two examples of the same pathology

    • pappy

      you’re right. i remember seeing the videos of the pope beheading muslims. hilarious.

      • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

        Yea, we didn’t have video cameras back then. The atrocities the catholic church committed would have been quite sad to see.

  • $30738370

    Such vile hatred, bigotry, and intolerance. I’m sure these people have never heard a word this pope has ever spoke or read anything he has written. He is a very compassionate, soft spoken, and humble person. He is much more of an ordinary guy than previous popes. But they would rather cling to their prejudices and hate for someone they know very little about than be open to someone who believes differently from them.

    • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

      Yea, he’s compassionate alright. We all just love the compassion he has shown for the molesting priests. No, don’t press charges, they are above the law, just wisk them away to another parish. All done by a man who claims to be closer to a god than the rest of us.

      • MEY

        Cite a credible source for your claim that “…just wisk them away to another parish. All done by a man who claims to be closer to a god than the rest of us.”

        • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

          Give us a credible source that says pedophilia is excusable. I’m against pedophilia and you should be also.

          • skyway1234

            Thats not a credible source. Why not answer the question? Lets see the credible source.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            It’s a well known fact that the church will hide the molester and send them away for a while rather than letting the police take care of it. I’ve seen it happen in my own hometown. I won’t waste my time with you anymore. You are very dense. It’s quite amusing that a religious person who’ll believe and defend something without any credible source (your bible) now would demand to see a credible source?

          • skyway1234

            You jumped off of the point. Mary Ellen, the original poster, asked you to “Cite a credible source for your claim that “…just wisk them away to another parish. All done by a man who claims to be closer to a god than the rest of us.” She said the current pope has done a great deal to combat the problem of priests who molest children and she laid out an argument in defense of this particular pope – not every pope that has ever been in the Vatican. She asked you to back up your point and I wanted to see you do that because I want to see your answer. You then sent me an insulting response saying I’m dense and apparently calling me a religious person. I’m the opposite of dense, I am not religious and am quite intelligent. I also think they should jail every priest proven to be a child molester and I’m not a Catholic.

            Now…back to the original point and question. Do you have any proof that THIS PARTICULAR pope has participated in a cover up? It is easy to insult and defame people and sometimes not as easy to back up your opinions with facts. Please stick to facts about this pope. I’m not defending this pope. I know the history of this terrible problem, but I don’t know whether this pope is helping the situation or furthering the situation. Do you have proof that he is furthering the situation?

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            The problem I have with apologists for the problem is that it does further the problem. I have seen the Catholic church cover up many scandals in my own community. I have personally known priests and their buddies in the Catholic church and seen this stuff with my own eyes. I don’t have the time to cite internet articles as proof. This stuff is out there and I urge you all to look it up. I don’t have time to spoonfeed anyone. So I guess the concept of the Pope being closer to God is a myth? Tell the Billion people who think that’s the case otherwise. I don’t believe that any man is closer to a supernatural than any other man. If there was a man that was closer to a supernatural entity than the average man, he would have to prove it and behave accordingly. I’m not religious. On Benedict, we don’t know what this particular pope has done about the problem yet until history has played itself out and all the evidence is in.

          • HughGKnutts

            He’s probably trying to use a vbulletin forum to do a search on the atheist forum for something to copy/paste. Give him a break, he’s an amateur and is probably feeling a little overwhelmed at being challenged. Bless his little heart!

          • HughGKnutts

            That contradicks (pun intended) with the delusional liberal mindset. The Church is trying to give the gay man caught molesting the benefit of the doubt, yet liberals claim the Church is full of hatred towards gays.

            You can’t make them happy either way. Then there’s you, being an amateur atheist. You know the kind, the ones that spend all their spare time on atheist forums bookmarking threads, then when anxiously waiting for a hot topic about religion so you can go out and ambush others to make yourself feel like a superior bigot.

            Really? Do you think that’s original? Do you not think people can’t see right through it? There used to be a time when a novice atheist took pride in their efforts to attack people they knew would probably not attack them back, but you guys are just lazy anymore.

            Come on, put some effort in your trade and take a little pride.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            LOL “amateur atheist” You have no clue what you are talking about. Has anyone ever called you a troll before?
            Do you have anything good to share? Of course not.

          • HughGKnutts

            It’s amazing you can see in others what you cannot see in yourself.

            Lazy amateur. You need to hone your skills over on an islamic forum where there are consequences.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            Hey Mr Stalin, I see you endorse drastic consequences for speaking out for what you believe or don’t believe. I looked at all of your empty senseless comments. You’re a troll and a poor one at that. Go back and play with the children where you belong. Are you old enough to be posting in these adult comment sections?

          • HughGKnutts

            Still trying to put others down to raise yourself up? Honesty, I hate gay pedophiles as much as you do. It’s just that you are not intelligent enough to know that gay men (perhaps like yourself?) choose to become priests to have closer access to their preferred subjects.

            But then you go after the easy targets…Christians, like most lazy atheists do. It’s easier to attack those that probably won’t fight back, right?

            Amateur.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            Very obvious you don’t know what an Atheist is.
            It’s people like yourself that make these comment sections hilarious! I don’t fight on the internet with morons like yourself. Get off the internet, it’s time for mommy to tuck you in. LMAO!

          • HughGKnutts

            I do my best. I really can’t take all the credit, though. You make it so easy that it’s really not fair.

            An atheist is typically a bigot who tries to be a bully on the internet to force their views down the throats of others. They are intolerant of other’s beliefs. They generally tend to have a low IQ and low self-esteem which is why they primarily target those they believe to be easy prey because they know they generally will not fight back. Most of them are wusses. They would never say the things they say to Christians, to muslims.

            I have noticed you do seem to have a preoccupation with children and how old people are. You may be eligible for free treatment under the new obamacare program.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            Now that’s funny! I have told all denominations that they are delusional and will continue to do so. :) I’m surprised your parents are letting you stay up so late on a weeknight. BTW, there’s no such thing as an internet fight.

          • subgenius73

            You actually haven’t seen the source?!? This has been covered exstensively! Google “Crimen Sollicitationis”.

            Of particular note “Since, however, in dealing with these causes, more than usual care and concern must be shown that they be treated with the utmost confidentiality, and that, once decided and the decision executed, they are covered by permanent silence all those persons in any way associated with the tribunal, or
            knowledgeable of these matters by reason of their office, are bound to observe inviolably the strictest confidentiality, commonly known as the secret of the Holy Office, in all things and with all persons, under pain of incurring automatic excommunication.”

            In other words, a member of clergy who brings light to the issue of child molestation in the church, by decree of the Vatican, is faced with automatic excommunication. It was Benedict, under JP II, who was responsible for updating the decree that dates back hundreds of years! Under Benedict and JP II, the church set up funds for each diocese to buy off victims, if they did not remain silent, they were faced with excommunication as outlined above! Doesn’t get more damning that, my blinder wearing friends.

          • subgenius73

            Furthermore:
            “68. If a priest convicted of the crime of solicitation, or
            even merely admonished, should transfer his residence to another territory, the Ordinary a quo should immediately warn the Ordinary ad quem of the priest’s record and his legal status.

            69. If a priest who has been suspended in a cause of
            solicitation from hearing sacramental confessions, but not from sacred preaching, should go to another territory to preach, the Ordinary of that territory should be informed by his Superior, whether secular or religious, that he cannot be
            employed for the hearing of sacramental confessions.
            70. All these official communications shall always be made
            under the secret of the Holy Office; and, since they are of the utmost importance for the common good of the Church, the precept to make them is binding under pain of grave [sin]”

            That’s right, if a “convicted” (under the church’s secret trial system) priest decides to move to another parish to preach, the parish should be advised that he merely is not permitted to take confession! And for the “common good of the Church” all precedings and communications regarding the case are to remain secret! Nowhere in the Crimen Sollicitationis is there an order to notify the authorities of charges of child molestation. That is systematic criminal obstruction of the most heinous crime known to man! There is no denying it!

          • Guest

            You jumped off of the point. Mary Ellen, the original poster, asked you to “Cite a credible source for your claim that “…just wisk them away to another parish. All done by a man who claims to be closer to a god than the rest of us.” She said the current pope has done a great deal to combat the problem of priests who molest children and she laid out an argument in defense of this particular pope – not every pope that has ever been in the Vatican. She asked you to back up your point and I wanted to see you do that because I want to see your answer. You then sent me an insulting response saying I’m dense and apparently calling me a religious person. I’m the opposite of dense, I am not religious and am quite intelligent. I also think they should jail every priest proven to be a child molester and I’m not a Catholic.

            Now…back to the original point and question. Do you have any proof that THIS PARTICULAR pope has participated in a cover up? It is easy to insult and defame people and sometimes not as easy to back up your opinions with facts. Please stick to facts about this pope.

          • subgenius73

            It was this Pope who, as Cardinal under JP II, was responsible for Crimen Sollicitationis. This is well verified, and I outlined that point in my post. The very fact that he was a vatican cardinal is the only required proof, when it is the vatican that establishes church policy including Crimen Sollicitationis. I know, I am wasting my breath on the likes of you who will continue to protect your worldview in the face of any amount of evidence.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            I’m sorry you don’t know how to use Google. This came up first after a very quick search.

            http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Pope-Benedict-accused-of-masterminding-Catholic-Church-sex-abuse-cover-up-91038229.html

          • MEY

            I didn’t make the claim that pedophilia is excusable, you made a claim that the Pope “wisk them away to another parish. All done by a man who claims to be closer to a god than the rest of us.” We are waiting for a source for your claim, otherwise we’ll all accept it for what it is: a bigoted lie

      • $30738370

        Once again…a person that just wants to hate that doesn’t know the facts.

        No one on the planet has done more to deal with abusers than him. All the stuff you described happened prior to him becoming Pope in 2005. He has been cleaning up other peoples messes since then.

        Shortly before he became pope, he asked to take charge of all abuse cases involving clergy because he was frustrated that nothing was getting done even though it wasn’t his job. He streamlined the punitive process for abusers–even as other people accused him of subverting due process.

        One of the first things he did was remove the head of the Legionnaires who he knew to be an abuser, but didn’t have the authority to remove until he was pope. The abuser tried bribing him with an envelope of cash but it didn’t work.

        He didn’t want to be Pope. He is a professor. He wanted to retire and write books, but is doing this out of a sense of duty.

        But yeah keep on hating him (not for who he is) but simply because he happens to be pope. Besides you have to have someone to hate and blame for everything right?

        • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

          Never said I hated anyone. I DO HATE the ideology though. Nice try on your paragraph of excuses.
          Sense of duty? I guess it was a sense of duty to tell the world that condoms don’t prevent AIDS. Oh lets see, another good one, it’s a good thing to suffer. When these popes put their foot in their mouth, there needs to be someone to call them out on it. This isn’t the dark ages anymore.

          • $30738370

            There is plenty of hate in your comment directed to him. You don’t need to use the word. Your hate and bigotry are apparent.

            The pope never said that condoms don’t prevent aids. What he said was that when you promote condom programs in areas that are infected with HIV it makes it worse because it creates a false sense of security and promotes risky behavior because condoms are not fool proof. Just go to Trojans website and read their own statistics about the effectiveness of condoms.

            Even after the media attacked him for being unscientific, some medical experts (who were totally secular) said that the pope may be right. Its called compensation. When a positive effect of something is reduced or nullified (or compensated for) by its negative effect. For example, handing out a bunch of 97% effective condoms to people who have HIV and saying “Here! Use these” Then in their 100th sexual encounter they spread HIV to their partner. When you have HIV if you wear a condom, sure it might prevent aids on that occasion. The pope never disputed that. But if you use the condom as a license to have sex hundreds of times–well then you are just spreading aids.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            Very predictable answer. Any hate that I supposedly have could never equal the amount of religious intolerance and hate that is spread around the world. Spreading fallacies based on religious teachings has caused harm and suffering to people. That man has a lot of human suffering on his shoulders and should apologize to the people who hang on his every word and take it to be true. Then you say go to the Trojan website? Are you kidding me? Stop spreading fallacies. Go to the CDC website and look for “Male Latex Condoms and Sexually Transmitted Diseases” “Latex condoms, when used consistently and correctly, are highly effective in preventing the sexual transmission of HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.” It’s certainly a numbers game and surely if a few lives could be saved it’s worth it. I bet you there are a lot of dead people that would have preferred to take the condom route rather than the Popes advice. Can’t ask them now… Nevermind the spread of other diseases that could be curtailed as well as unwanted pregnancies, cervical cancer etc… Of course your more worried about the fate of a 3 cell Zygote than a living human being. Typical religious nut-tard.

          • $30738370

            Failed to understand the crux of what I was saying.

            No one ever said that condoms arent effective in individual cases as the CDC says.

            Sure you might not get HIV the first 98 times, but eventually it fails. Put it on wrong. A scratch of a fingernail. or it just breaks. Even the CDC says that condoms are not absolutely effective at preventing HIV.

            They consider 98% to be highly effective when used “consistently and correctly”. I don’t know about you but I wouldn’t go parachuting with a 98% effective parachute. And the truth is most people don’t use them consistently or correctly. Real people outside of labratory studies make mistakes.

            FYI Abstinence programs were highly effective at curbing HIV in parts of Africa like Uganda but you want to hear about that. Who cares about facts. Because people are just animals right? and they can’t control their behavior even when its a matter of life or death.

            Yeah and as far as the CDC goes don’t you just love how they failed to mention for almost a decade that condoms weren’t effective against HPV–all while an HPV epidemic was breaking out.

            And no one who ever took the Pope’s advice has ever died. People don’t die from abstinence and fidelity. I guarantee you plenty people have died because of failing condoms.

            And once again even after you claim weren’t a hater you went off on your bigotry, stereotyping, and and name calling. You would have been great in the KKK.

          • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

            Oh, the comedy here. Of course I would expect you to keep on denying the evidence. Abstinence doesn’t work and 98% is much better than 0%. You are truly an apologist for evil and misinformation.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            Calling someone out on their actions is not bigotry. It is being held accountable. The Pope has said some terrible things. He has done some terrible things. And you people tell me all the time that pointing out the wrongs of a person is not hate.

        • subgenius73

          He only started cleaning up after others?!? Benedict was the bishop under JP II that wrote the vatican orders explaining the process of covering up paedophilia in the church! Only paedophiles cover for paedophiles.

          • $30738370

            That is absolutely false. Now I know that the only reason that you believe that (contrary to all facts) is because you are a bigot but I will respond even though I think its a waste of time. Trying to debate with bigots is usually pretty pointless because they are so focused on hate they don’t care about the truth.

            Benedict was the head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith. Dealing with punishing priests for abuse was normally reserved to individual bishops in a diocese (or local area like Detroit). He asked the Pope if he could be put in charge so that he could “clean up the filth in the Church”. He streamlined the process of punishing and removing abusers. He expanded and updated the legal code to cover more details in abuse (like internet stuff). He even waived statute of limitations to get rid of older priests.

            A simple internet search can verify all of this.

    • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

      Um…so he is humble? Really? The man who wears Prada loafers, rides in a car named after him, attacks a man who steals some papers about him and then protects priests who raped children, sits on a gold chair, wears clothes that cost more than my annual salary? Really? Humble.

      • $30738370

        He doesn’t wear Prada loafers. That is an internet rumor, but don’t let that stop you from believing it. Gotta hate that Pope.

        The car (a glorified bulletproof golfcart) is there because another hater shot and nearly killed the previous pope. He is also 85 years old and getting around is difficult.

        The man who you claim the pope attacked was stealing documents for personal gain. Thats called a crime. How would you like it if your house keeper went through your personal files and records, snooping around and tries to sell it to the highest bidder? I bet you would think they belong in jail. Just wait though, I’m sure the pope will ask for leniency for the thief.

        Those who have met him prior to becoming Pope describe him as quiet and shy. Even though he was in a high position in the Church he would talk to strangers in the streets when he was walking to work. Someone I know met him and she said he was just excited to meet someone else who spoke German.

        Yes you are a bigot, filled with prejudice, bias, and hate.

        • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

          So raping children is not a crime? Protecting those rapists is not a crime? Seems he only sought justice in that case because he was going to be exposed.

          • $30738370

            Dude… seriously…

            All of the abuse stuff became prominent in 2001. He wasn’t pope until 2005. Prior to that he volunteered to be in charge of handling all abuse cases involving clergy (in a Church of 1 billion people!). He volunteered because other people weren’t doing their jobs. He was zealous in “cleaning up the filth” in the church (filth was the word he used). In spite of criticism, he removed the statute of limitations and streamlined the process of removing abusers.

            This pope has a sterling record when it comes to cleaning up the mess he was left with.

            A simple internet search will confirm all of this, unless you only visit websites run by prejudiced bigots like yourself. Even Wikipedia can explain it for you.

          • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

            Actually, a simple internet search for benedict and cover up brought hundreds of articles that show that the scandal was right on his lap. And he did what you would expect he would do. He protected the priests.

  • dissengage

    Damn! I thought we were people first, but from what I’m seeing here you’re either a Conservative or a Liberal first and that 100% determines EVERYTHING after. That’s sad I tell you. Very sad in more ways then one. I mean, I’m up for a good debate and I like to poke fun at other peoples views, but this is some hateful vitriol from both sides going on here today.

  • Mawm

    Why shouldn’t rational people mock this charlatan ?

  • pappy

    hello and i am 12. what is a pope and why is everyone so mean to it?

    • ReligionIsToxicToTheMind

      You really don’t want to know…..LOL

    • MEY

      The Pope is the leader of the 1.3 billion Catholics in the world today. Not everyone is mean to him, just some bigots who hate the Church based on their own prejudices and untruths (which they’re trying to promote here, so do your own research & do not take what they post as truth)

  • Timothy Noonan

    I must say, this has been an entertaining thread Twitchy.

  • Jose Pineda

    Personally, I have little use for religion. Me and God: it’s always been personal. Since I was a child I was comfortable knowing God exists, And frankly, I would have loved to meet Jesus, but religion… just another club.
    I do however have enough respect for those who ARE religious not to sling the mud like some of these people are already doing. God bless them all, even if they’re poor examples of God’s creation.

  • Guest

    Just read through these vile tweets from the libtards. Next time they try and out you conservatives, Tea Party folks or Christians for being hateful, racist, XXXXaphobe, just remember their true nature. They are the most vile, hate-filled group of scumbags on the planet. I have absolutely zero use for any of them. They are a waste of oxygen, a waste of space, nothing more than parasites on the ass of humanity.

    • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

      Um…I think people have a reason to be mad at the Pope. I know I do.

  • Jim Flood

    I am a libertarian. I am a recovering Catholic, my father was a Roman Catholic Priest, and I think that the Pope has a lot to answer for. The Catholic Church has earned the rejection and disgust of a lot of people. They chose not to protect their flock from the predators they selected to represent them. This isn’t about Islam, it’s about abuse. The Pope lives in a palace built with money stolen from the poor. Princes and Kings sent their subjects to wars of conquest, slaughtering countless people, and obliterating cultures in the name of Holy Mother Church.

    • HughGKnutts

      The Pope lives in a palace built with money stolen from the poor.

      Funny, so does Obama.

  • http://twitter.com/hamybear Michael Hampton

    Maybe if the Pope didn’t condone the protection of child rapists and then try to come off as being on some moral high horse, people wouldn’t react that way. If I had been molested by a priest and then found out that priest was given tens of thousands of dollars and moved to another city without punishment, I would be pretty angry too.

    • HughGKnutts

      Sounds like you are already angry. If only the Catholic Church had a better way of filtering out all the gay men that seek refuge in the church to prey on their preferred targets.

      • J.Milliscone

        Oh look perfect example of bigoted hate speech from the GOP.

        • HughGKnutts

          I was hoping someone would be dumb enough to say something like that. It took a while, but someone was dumb enough to come along and take the bait. Here we have a topic about the bigoted hatred of the left with the most vile examples.

          They accuse the Church of going after boys because the Pope signs up on twitter. Never once stopping to realize, that it’s gay men that are actively seeking to become priests so they can molest boys.

          Point that out, and some numb nuts comes along and says it’s bigoted hate speech. It’s amazing you can see in others what you cannot see in yourself.

          • J.Milliscone

            Pedophile’s aren’t gay. Again perhaps it’s your limited understanding of big words. I would call you vile but that implies understanding.

            Personally I don’t care about the pope or any fictitious belief anyone has. But I am a true American and believe in freedom of speech.

          • HughGKnutts

            Sure they are. Being gay and a pedophile are not mutually exclusive. Gay pedophiles prefer to go after the same sex, which is exactly what these gay priests that infiltrate the church are doing.

            Gays seem to be all about going after Catholics, until someone points out that it’s gays infiltrating the church to have their way with boys. Kind of stings for gay people, huh?

          • J.Milliscone

            Nor are they one in the same.

            By that logic straight men are pedophiles but only go after lil girls. I can understand what point you are trying to make and I’m sure when you heard it you were sold, but it’s a weak point at best.

          • HughGKnutts

            I can understand why it bothers you. You attack Catholics for their past issues with priests, but when someone points out these are gay men who prefer boys, seeking positions within the church, that kind of stings with a dose of reality.

            It was ok to attack Catholics, but OMG whip out the victim card and alert the seamens when someone points out they are gay!

            Your argument is weak. Gays and pedophiles are not mutually exclusive. These are gay men specifically targeting boys (ie, they prefer the same sex). It’s a reality you cannot simply wish away, just because you are gay.

          • J.Milliscone

            Jerry Sanduski wasn’t gay and he molested little boys. So I’m sad to say that there is the big whole in your assertion. It’s ok to be wrong on this site. You have alot of people to support your lunacy.

          • HughGKnutts

            Sure he was. Just because he molested boys under the age of 18 doesn’t make him any less gay. That’s like trying to argue Larry Craig wasn’t gay because he was married and the subject was over 18. 18 doesn’t make someone gay or not.

          • J.Milliscone

            No he wasn’t he had a wife and like younger people. That’s the difference.

            I know it helps you to subjugate a group of people and that’s your thing since that kind of intellectualism never gains much success so your prejudice hurts no one.

          • XM-177

            Hey tiny-nuts, also indicative of the size of your brain. tiny—

          • HughGKnutts

            Aww, that was so “sthpethcial.” You sure told me!

          • XM-177

            Yo tiny, glad you realize it!

          • HughGKnutts

            Oh, you give me too much credit, you big ol’ brute you! My gaydar is on high alert and you came across the screen like the titanic. Have you met J.Milliscone yet?

            I’ll just let the two of you get acquainted now and talk about whatever comes up. Toot-a-loos, big boy!

          • XM-177

            Yo tiny, you talk about gays quite a lot. Subconsciously, in writing, you are revealing your fears (or desires) perhaps??

  • VetMike

    Just when I think I’ve seen the very worst in hate mongering something like this comes along. The Left proves every single day just how intolerant and vile they are every day.

    • http://www.facebook.com/levi.hardeman James Hendenburg

      its vile to be against what they are mad about? How?

      • VetMike

        Be as mad as you want but leave off the ad hominum attacks.

        • J.Milliscone

          You must have a blind eye when it comes to comments on this site.

          • VetMike

            Please elaborate.

          • J.Milliscone

            So you say you are oppose to ad hominem attacks but this whole site is dedicated to that very form of argument.

          • VetMike

            I am not defending the site one way or the other. I believe that we need to respect each other and that we cannot solve our problems by attacking each other.

  • Guest

    Its scary that someone who believes in such a controlling religion has any power in general.

    • HughGKnutts

      Makes you wonder how Obama got elected…again.

  • Christopher di Spirito

    The Old Coot is working on his 2013 first of the year edict where he blames gays for the destruction of humanity. He’s a vile, soulless, Nazi-loving ghoul.

    • HughGKnutts

      He certainly has that right, after all the gays that infiltrated their Church to molest their boys.

    • MEY

      cite quote & source of quote where in the Pope “blames gays for the destruction of humanity.”

  • John Titus

    Funny thing is that most of these Pope bashers don’t have more than 40 followers. I think that is all we need to know. Nobody gives 2 craps for their opinions and daily observations. One thing they seem to all have in common is they are part of the tolerant, open-minded, all inclusive Democrats.

    • http://www.facebook.com/levi.hardeman James Hendenburg

      Im not a democrat. I also dont believe in god. I MUST BE THE CRAZIEST PERSON ALIVE! nah but really, grow up. Religion lost its cool awhile ago my man. When you actually look at what you are reading in the bible, then you will understand! Until then, I will pray…wait I mean, just think (its the same thing) for you.

  • AmericaIsGreat

    Let’s get this straight. A man we’ll call Man #1, just say any man for the sake of argument, has the power to tell you what to eat, how to eat it, how big it can be, whether or not you have internet / power / phone / electricity, who dies and who lives, etc. etc…. Would you agree to this? Of course not, unless his name is Your Highness, the Almighty, the Anointed One, Dear Leader Maobama.

    But the Pope of all people being hated? What kind of people are you?

    • J.Milliscone

      Nowhere in that rambling did you make any type of coherent statement.

    • Rich

      Yes. ObamaCare mandates that religious organizations pay for contraceptives and abortions. ObamaCare would limit care for the elderly once they hit a point where it is not cost-effective. That’s scary stuff.

  • Crunkomatic

    1- The pope’s tweets should all be in Latin, and should include ones that tell naysayers to “suck it”- again, in Latin. 2- People sure are mouthy when they don’t say things to peoples’ faces.

  • BeeKaaay

    And here is the Ku Klux Klan personality that leftwingwackos have.

    100% bigotry. That’s leftwingwackoism.

  • sqeptiq

    Are the pope’s tweets infallible?

  • TWG2A

    The world has been handed to the vermin. These hateful little beasts are going to have to be dealt with someday.

    • J.Milliscone

      Fortunately the hateful GOP didn’t gain any seats and lost some in both bodies.

  • Sad Chestertonian

    G.K.Chesterton said, “It looked not so much as if Christianity was bad enough to include any vices, but rather as if any stick was good enough to beat Christianity with.” Indeed. The same floundering search for sticks continues today, with fresh faces regurgitating the same tired arguments of ages past, certain they will suffice to brush aside the superstitious dogmas of Christianity. Alas, there is nothing new under the sun, regardless of how good the stick feels in the eager hand of the skeptic.

  • GETALIFE

    People are just nuts….They love oblahblah, but hate the pope….At least the pope is love and doesn’t stand for hate like oblahblah

  • J.Milliscone

    Freedom of speech. There’s all kinds of religious hate on this board so I see no difference Expect most people that insult Judeo Christianity are more familiar with the subject matter than those that support it.

    • HughGKnutts

      Does that mean that most gay men who seek to be a priest to molest boys are more familiar with their subject matter, than those they violate?

      • J.Milliscone

        It means that pedophilia is a major problem in the Catholic church.

        Gay men don’t molest boys pedophiles do. Or is that word to big for you to understand. :)

        • HughGKnutts

          It means that gay men who prefer them a little younger are actively seeking positions in the Church as priests.

          Being gay and a pedophile are not mutually exclusive. You might have a point if they were going after girls.

    • https://twitter.com/AlessaRosewater Maria

      So speaketh one of those haters, right? 😀

    • Rich

      I find that most people who insult Christianity don’t know much about it. And the reasons they bring up to say it’s a myth are re-hashes of old arguments that were debunked many years ago.

      • J.Milliscone

        So let’s talk about the parable of Joshua BenJousef and how it is plagiarized from all other religions of the time. (immaculate conception, died and reborn…)

        We could also talk about the lack of other planets being made by god though they are real. Let’s not forget Dec 25th, which while not in the bible is believed (incorrectly) to be the birth of Christ even though the Bible shows that not to be true. Or all the other text that were left out of the current versions. Are you familiar with the book of Enoch as an example?

  • XM-177

    I see the religious clowns crying because a few left some comments about a pope on Twitter? HUH?

  • The_Gentile

    When and if the Pope gets a real twitter account, I’m sure he’ll turn the other cheek, forgive the haters and then block them.

  • http://www.chockadoc.com/ Chockadoc

    “Created in 1962, a now infamous document was issued in secret to bishops. Called Crimen Sollicitationis, it outlined procedures to be followed by bishops whendealing with allegations of child abuse, homosexuality and bestiality by members of the clergy. It swore all parties involved to secrecy on pain of excommunication from the Catholic Church.

    This document was reissued in 2001 by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger and sent to all bishops. Yet rather than ordering more openness and cooperation with the authorities as demanded by both law enforcers and the victims, he reiterated its policies and ensured that the Code of Silence be applied to all cases of child abuse involving a priest. Cardinal Ratzinger also instructed that all cases should now be referred to his office directly and that he would maintain ‘exclusive competence’ over the handling of allegations. This is the Catholic Church’s policy to this day and Cardinal Ratzinger is now Pope Benedict XVI.”

    http://www.chockadoc.com/sex-crimes-and-the-vatican/

    • MEY

      The 2001 instruction was issued to clear up confusion about how reports of clerical sexual misconduct were to be handled.

      . . .the CDF letter had as one important aim to settle certain procedural questions among canonists as to which canonical crimes are “reserved” to CDF per 1983 CIC 1362, that is, which ecclesiastical offenses are considered serious enough that Rome itself could adjudicate the case instead of allowing the normal canons on penal jurisdiction to operate (e.g., 1983 CIC 1408, 1412). These canons were on the books long before the clergy sexual abuse crisis erupted, but their interpretation had been disputed. CDF’s letter cleared up much of the confusion.3

      With respect to limitations of action, they are not unique to Canon Law. They exist in secular legal jurisdictions4 and can prevent prosecution of serious sex crimes.5 Even where there is no legal limitation of action, the probability of prosecution diminishes with time to mere theoretical possibility, since it becomes increasingly difficult to find reliable evidence sufficient to prove a charge beyond reasonable doubt.

    • MEY

      Ratzinger’s directive actually facilitated Church proceedings against clerical sex offenders by extending time limits that had previously hampered prosecutions.

      . . .in extending jurisdiction over these cases to 10 years past the alleged victim’s 18th birthday, CDF actually increased the amount of time that Church officials (whether diocesan or Roman) had to prosecute these offenses. Before CDF’s letter, canonical prosecutions were complicated by unduly short statutes of limitations—the very same problem, by the way, that state prosecutions encountered in many pedophilia cases. CDF was hardly obstructing justice; it was trying to make justice more available.

  • https://twitter.com/AlessaRosewater Maria

    I followed the Pope. He is a man of God, how can those people be so hateful? He is a good man!

    • http://twitter.com/Juliethejarhead Julie the Jarhead

      Over 360,000 followers … and counting.

      • https://twitter.com/AlessaRosewater Maria

        He’ll be at 1 million soon!

    • http://www.droiddoes.com/ Norm

      He is the anti-christ. I will not follow him.

      • https://twitter.com/AlessaRosewater Maria

        Obama is the “anti-Christ”, silly Lib.

  • http://www.braysballtalk.com/ Aaron Giddens

    Tolerant left, my ass.

  • Lisa 670

    Not Catholic but respect their beliefs and and their spiritual leader. We have produced a generation of free loading, disrespectful degenerates. This is sick.

  • GETALIFE

    I hope you get what you deserve

  • Waiting for the Change

    Norm, really? This is the level of intelligence that you exhibit in a post? Maybe you had a bad weekend and need another day off. Go back to bed and return to social media forums when you have something non-hostile to say.

  • Kicker

    Since you seem to feel justified in killing those with whom you disagree, hope you remember this attitude when Conservatives are back in the White House, and hold control of the drones. Maybe they’ll feel the same???

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHY_xOj2M_g PistolsForPandas

    If you look over his post history, you’ll see that Norm is a troll. Pay him no mind.

  • http://www.droiddoes.com/ Norm

    Hostile? Like turning your back on what was going on during the holocaust? Ignoring the priest molestation pandemic? Yah, ok, nothing to be troubled by. Conservatives and their selective morality is what needs to end.

  • HughGKnutts

    The intelligence of the average EBT card holder, like Norm, is a reminder of how Obama was re-elected. Not even duct tape can fix that level of stupidity.

  • http://www.droiddoes.com/ Norm

    They will never be back in the White House. They are a shrinking minority holding onto silly fairy tale ideals.

  • DSA

    Funny, selective morality…as opposed to say no morality? Get your head out of the ground and go to work. Join the 53% – be productive.

  • Benjamen Bennett

    Because the Vatican City itself didn’t save nearly 1,000,000 lives during the holocaust.

    Here we are, condemning a non-existing non-act (“doing nothing during the holocaust”) with very real threats of terrorism (bomb the sovereign country of Vatican. You speak of selective morality yet that is what you are demonstrating with your acts. I suppose you support the Iraq war, as well, since they ignored (and indeed, created) abuse against women and children? And now you want to wage war against Vatican?

    The horrible scandal of a very small percentage (which is in fact the same percentage as not just those in positions of power in Protestant faiths, but in all areas of humanity, such as from teachers or other figures of power) IS being dealt with. Perhaps not as quickly as it should, but it is being dealt with. Many of these priests are being brought to justice. But yes, I suppose this is plenty of reason to invade and bomb Vatican city.

    By that standard, we should probably invade every country on the planet, including America.

    Personally, I’m American. I don’t care what your morals and ethics are, that’s your business and right to argue. These are protected in the first amendment, for the most part. (Not so much threats of terrorism, such as wishing to send drones to bomb another country with whom we are allied, mind you.) BUT your double standard completely negates anything you have to say. Take a step back, look at yourself, look at the other side, think before you speak.

    Now I suppose you’ll call me names, that’s well and good, I wouldn’t expect much less.

    Also, in response to conservatives never being in power again, the democrats said the same thing about their own party in 2004. NPR cried that the liberal party was dead and all our rights are going to be taken away and you couldn’t even go get an abortion without someone shooting you in the face first since there’d be no more murder laws. It’s all nonsense. Both the liberals and the conservatives will be in power in the future.

    Just be consistent, that’s all. If you’re going to hate something, understand it first. Don’t have double standards and mis-conceptions.

    “There are only 100 people in America who hate the Catholic church. There are millions in America who hate what they think the Catholic church is.” Most Rev. Sheen

    Now that I’ve wasted my time using logic against a close minded far leftist…I’ll do something useful, such as watch paint dry. Would be less of a waste of my time. Still, for the same reason the Pope is joining twitter, you have to at least try.

  • EOD

    Being a lover of freedom, when the revolution came in Germany, I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but, no, the universities immediately were silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a few short weeks…

    Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly.”
    ~ Albert Einstein December 23, 1940 issue of Time magazine -page 38

  • Tony Bracewell

    Amazing ignorance. Whatever a man sows he shall reap. I’ll hold onto my silly fairy tale ideals (family, Church, God, being kind to others, work-ethic, moral behavior). These are the ideals that built the country we now inhabit. The world of the liberal looks just like Greece, France, Vietnam, and North Korea.

  • Kicker

    That is exactly what they said about Democrats after the 2004 elections. Unfortunately, it proved not to be the case. So, whatever new powers and tools that you create to push your agenda, remember that they can, and will, be used against you just as you have chosen to use them against others.

  • HughGKnutts

    An ebt card, free rent, free phone, free healthcare, long term unemployment benefits. Norm is content with being an underachiever, as are most deadbeat obama supporters.

  • TexasMeow

    Oh go cry in your box wine you uncultured slob.

  • Theodictus

    sindexter if your going to talk out of the same orifice that you use to defecate, kindly remove the object in there, it’s making you mumble…..

  • pdx73

    Holy crap! I thought I’d heard it all and then comes another illogical, intolerant rant from Chris. If you can point out to me ONE priest today who is murdering so called apostates then I might agree with you, but your entire premise is incredibly wrong. Because Christianity no longer engages in the Inquisition then yes absolutely you absolve them the sins of the past. You CANNOT use the lens of the present to judge the actions of the past, or haven’t you learned that yet? I know it’s an inconvenient truth (pun intended again) for you regressive liberals, but the whole concept of rehabilitation is to recondition someone or something into being able to live among the rest of us without posing a danger to society. Spend a moment and review the philosophy behind our penal system. Islamic fundamentalists pose a clear and present danger as they actively slaughter everyone who disagrees with their insane world view…. Ma and Pa Kettle going to Sunday services in Kansas somewhere doesn’t rise to that level of threat as far as I can tell. I know you’d rather froth at the mouth and gnash teeth at those hate filled farmers and seamstresses in the heartland who believe in God and live their lives according to a tried and true philosophy of turning the other cheek and embracing their neighbors, but once again your hate and bias has blinded you to the real world.

  • Theodictus

    you’re holding all people of faith alive today in the same light as those who committed crimes 1,000 years ago…?aaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaaa what a J O K E!!!!!

  • http://www.droiddoes.com/ Norm

    Tl;dr

  • https://twitter.com/thehiredmind Hired Mind

    You see me going anywhere, bitch?

  • John Fowler

    You sound like someone really trying to make the world a better place, Jd. Name-calling is always a great way to edify strangers.

  • Bart

    Did I advocate child abuse, stealing babies or carnal priests blaming others. No. You said that, DUDE(real intellect). I was referring to the foul antichristian sentiment that faceless cowards like you post in your diatribes.

  • TYED

    The breath of Satan is behind DECEPTION and WICKED MANIPULATION. You would justify vulgarities against the Pope or anyone because of the Crusades. You would find any reason under the sun to justify manipulative claptrap. Anarchy reigns in your world and justifies itself by remaking itself daily. Evil crucified an innocent Christ and will continue to crucify the innocents until Jesus comes again.

  • Jose Pineda

    Dude…!! You need to up your meds. This is just a twitter account by a world leader. That is, someone who as far as anyone knows has not abused children or women, and someone who will have more followers that you can dream of. I think it’s just sour grapes on your part.

  • $37672888

    As opposed to faceless cowards like you in your diatribes…? Grow up.
    You’re excusing evil. Therefore you are aiding and abetting evil. Therefore you are evil.

    Either the what the Church did was wrong or it wasn’t. You can’t defend them and side with them if you think what they did was wrong. You are not a person of integrity if you do. You’re running out of choices. Either you think what the Church did was just fine and dandy, or you don’t. Or you don’t but you’re too much of a pansy to take a stand. Either way, you’re not a real man. You have no honor. No integrity. Therefore you are nothing.

  • TYED

    There is no excuse for Evil and there is no defense of Satan. Satan has lost and his folly will be shown to the Universe very shortly. Grow up.

  • PJSTX

    There are over a billion Catholics. You blaming all 1 billion in “the Chruch” ? You have the power and wisdom to declare each and every one evil. Impressive. But you already knew that, ey?

  • Bart

    The eyes are useless when the mind is blind. “The Church” did not do the abominations your referring to! Gods purpose prevails over the evils of men. As for your 2nd diatribe, “as coal are to coals, and wood to fire, so is a contentious man to kindle strife”. “He that hateth dissembleth with his lips, and lays up deceit within him”. Your condemning and finding fault in others you don’t even know as if there’s some reward in it for you.

  • Sad Chestertonian

    What is your opinion on how Chris Carter, who has shown a clear fascination with Catholicism in both X Files, and Millenium, how he handled the main point of your rage regarding his most recent film?

  • Mary Kreitzer

    What exactly did “the Church” do? Individual clerics in the Church sinned. Some bishops covered it up. There are millions of Catholics in the U.S. who are “the Church”. Every German wan’t Hitler. Every Russian wasn’t Stalin. By your logic a politician’s sins should condemn the entire state. Look at what the Church stands for. The Church was also a victim of abuse as your comment shows.

  • TYED

    You manipulate the truth for your own evil ends.

  • fan of Dr. Carson

    There are always going to be evil people, doesn’t matter what you believe. You will always see evil if that is all you ever look for. You have a sad life.

  • Finrod Felagund

    You wouldn’t know what truth looked like if it bit you on the ass, troll.

  • https://twitter.com/AlessaRosewater Maria

    You are a vile creature who speaks utter drivel. I shall pray for you.

  • TYED

    And what does have anything to do with God? What is your alternative reality?

  • Bart

    Whatever your name is( u hide behind 7bridgesroad), you have some serious issues. The way you hate and name call is frankly disturbing. Expressing an opinion is encouraged as long as it is done in a civilized and intellegent manner. Name calling is not civilized, immature and it is indicative of the inability to discourse intelligently. One aught to avoid such low tactics in civilized communication. I, as well as others posting here will pray for you.

  • Jeannie Hurley

    Wow, you obviously have swallowed the Secular Humanist/Socialist pill. The Catholic Church has been the first to help all who suffer. Catholic Charities USA fights abuse, child trafficking, and promotes family strengthening, community building, and disaster relief. You know who treated the first AIDS patients? Catholic hospitals. You know who treated lepers and provided comfort to them when they were dying without thought to their own health? Catholic priests. The Catholic Church is NOT an evil institution. There may have been (and may be still) evil people within it, but that’s because we’re all human and none of us (except Jesus) is divine. Were mistakes made regarding the cover-up of abuses? Yes, obviously. What some men of the Catholic Church have done in the past no way cancels out the good that the men and women of the Catholic Church have done over the past 2000 years. The Pope’s message will echo the catechism of a 2000 year old Church, rich in history and tradition. You’re only upset because the teachings of the Church encourage us to limit our selfish behaviors and focus on the soul rather than the wants and desires of the body. The Church teaches about personal and community respect and responsibility. The Church fights to preserve and protect life in all its stages. The Church provides means and methods for us to get closer to God by living good lives. May the blessing of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you, and may the Holy Spirit give you the wisdom to recognize and repent the errors of your ways.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JKSKM3PLRJGNWBAVVER7V4TLJQ Chris

    Did all 1 billion Catholics commit pedophilia? No. And yet you judge the whole with the few. “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” Do you remember who said that? Its been a long time since Catholics agreed with everything the Vatican did and said. Its only in the modern times that Popes had real popular support from the masses. And only two come to mind that really deserved it, John Paul II and Pius the XII for their work during the Cold War and World War II respectively.

  • GETALIFE

    Don’t you know, if it is one catholic they hate all Catholics…Cause the liberal party is all about hate….

  • fan of Dr. Carson

    Weren’t the Crusades started by the Church of England which is NOT the Catholics!

  • Sad Chestertonian

    First off, the Crusades were all before the reformation, so pretty much all Christians were either Catholic or some variety of Eastern Orthodoxy. Second, the first Crusade was provoked by a gain of bandits called, formally, The Assassins. They were outside the law of any Islamic country at the time, but tended to prefer picking on Christian pilgrims rather then fellow Muslims, and the Islamic leaders’ reaction to this injustice was weak. A combination of poor communications, wild rumors, and Europe’s peculiar geo-political problems of the time led the Pope and Kings to the conclusion that the attacks on pilgrims had been SANCTIONED by the Islamic countries, and so a campaign was launched with the INITIAL sole intent of securing the routes to Jerusalem. At some point, without the Pope’s permission, the Kings priorities changed and they escalated the conflict. The motives for this are complex, and still hotly debated among historians, but the simple answer, in my opinion, is that his Holyness overestimated the political unity of the Kings. He thought spiritual unity would be enough.

  • Finrod Felagund

    Obviously you never read about Jesus running the moneychangers out of the temple with a whip.

  • XM-177

    Pure flatulence