Boom! Kirsten Powers sets Touré straight on why criticism of Amb. Rice isn’t racist or sexist

On Tuesday’s edition of “The Cycle,” Touré went after Sen. John McCain as one of the “old, white establishment folks” with the audacity to criticize delicate flower U.N. Amb. Susan Rice. You know, the usual: Any and all criticism of poor beleaguered Rice is racist and sexist.

Yawn.

Fox News political analyst Kirsten Powers has had enough. As Twitchy reported, Powers disputes the notion that Rice is some fragile infant who shouldn’t be subjected to criticism. “If Rice can’t handle being criticized by a few Sens she can’t be Sec of State,” Powers tweeted earlier this month. So she wasn’t about to let Touré throw down the race and gender cards without some pushback.

Indeed. But let’s not let pesky facts get in the way. Touré continued spouting the tiresome line that seeking to hold Rice accountable for misleading the American people on the nature of the Benghazi attack is a “witch hunt.”

Powers wasn’t having it.

That one baffled Touré, who isn’t too clear on the meaning of “facts.”

And, there it is. Four years later and Touré still hasn’t cured his raging Palin Derangement Syndrome.

He’s not getting through. Perhaps a bit of concern trolling?

Um, no. Powers offers a few more of those pesky facts:

Yikes! For that alone he must pay!

Nice! Consistency is tough, huh? But letting go of the race card is even tougher.

It’s not racist; it’s just all about race. Really? Perhaps Rice should try not being incompetent if she doesn’t want to deal with all the criticism.

  • FIRE THEM ALL- 2014

    Liberals want everything both ways, equality for women means that you can be equally held accountable if you are ineffective at your job. You don’t get it both ways ladies, get over yourself. If your skin happens to have a little more pigment than others too bad, especially if you are in a job that requires competence. The color of your skin has nothing to do with how well you do your job. Why can’t you be held accountable like an old white man would be if he were doing a piss poor job?

    • LordLieutenant

      Equality is nothing more than marketing for the Leftist. Supremacy is what they’re after. The committed Leftist will never stop when equality for their chosen political identity group has been reached, but will continue to agitate forever.

      There’s far too much money to be made and votes to be won.

      • GaryTheBrave

        That is also why I oppose gay marriage. I know it’s not the be all end all of the homosexual movement.

        Getting back on topic: If minorities want to be big players on the national stage they are going to have to get used to the slings and arrows of the opposition, whether they are from the left or right.

        • LordLieutenant

          I don’t care about gay marriage either way as it’s an issue that affects 3% at best, but you raise an interesting point in that the gay lobby has moved from demanding tolerance and equality to demanding acceptance to demanding that government promotes it and finally demanding that government refuses to be tolerant of those who oppose it.

          I’m generalising here, as there are plenty of gay people that don’t consider their sexuality to be the sum of their personality and who don’t subscribe to these phony identity groups.

          • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

            Unfortunately, gay rights activists, many of whom are straight just looking to look and feel good and flash their “tolerance” card around, are forcing us to be involved. In fact, a lot of GLTBQ folks are against so-called “gay marriage” and others will respect you if you just tell them you’re not for it.

            I get it if you aren’t interested in other people’s sex lives, but it gets forced on you by a university, caused businesses to get sued, taught to 5 year olds or issued by pride parades in the middle of some of the worlds largest cities, it’s hard to miss and for us not to be involved.

          • LordLieutenant

            Quite right, Rulz. States that enforce Liberalism are just as authoritarian as those that enforce Conservatism. You’ll always find a group of people demanding that everyone else subscribes to their version of a virtuous or morally pure life while seeking to denounce those opposed as un-virtuous and immoral.

            True tolerance is to find peace with the fact that some folks like whatever it is, some folks don’t and, providing nobody gets hurt, government has nothing to do with either.

          • EEKman

            I completely agree with you.
            When people start getting hurt, the government is the only avenue we have to yell at the people causing the hurt to stop it.

          • LordLieutenant

            We’re on the same page, except that I think that the government isn’t there to stop people getting hurt. We should observe sensible laws like anti-discrimination laws when buying property or applying for jobs, but we can’t use the law to instil morality or to legislate against hurt feelings.

            Boundarys can only be dispelled through positive experience whereas people will never be more divided than when facing-off in a courtroom.

          • EEKman

            What do you do when the law doesn’t provide for equal rights for a certain minority? What do you do when geography separates local cultures enough so some states recognize an equal rights issue and some dont?

          • EEKman

            They shouldn’t be tolerant of people who oppose it, its hate speech. It would be like a resurgence of the interracial marriage protests. You wouldn’t publically admit you were against interracial marriages nowadays. In 10 years time you wont dare admit you’re against gay marriage or face public shame.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            Please explain how opposing something like gay marriage is hate speech. There are people who oppose legalizing marijuana so does that mean they are committing hate speech against marijuana?

          • EEKman

            Wow. I just explained it to you with the interracial marriage example. Maybe you are genuinely ignorant of what being against gay marriage *politically* actually means. If so then I would just suggest talking to some gay people about what it means to them. If you’re against it religiously fine, if your church is marrying gays and you oppose it then find another church. The small ‘m’ marriage, or the social contract that determines what benefits you get by the state is completely different. By saying you are politically against gay marriage is equivalent to saying you think interracial marriage should be illegal, which is considered hate speech by todays standards.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            WoW! I didn’t say politically oppose it. But now tell me where it states that if it’s opposed politically it’s considered hate speech. There are lots of politicians, Obama included who don’t agree with gay marriage and I know lots of people who’re opposed to interracial marriage and they don’t consider that hate speech.

          • EEKman

            For a person who values the constitution, thinks we are a republic and not a democracy, you have some very conflicting views. Why should you have the ability to vote away someone else’s ability to enter a social contract with anyone they choose?

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            I haven’t said any of that @EEKman:disqus . You seem to be like a few others who like to make assumptions that no one has said. I don’t care if someone wants to enter in a social contract. However, in my field of employment I also know that one of the main reasons that’s used for allowing gay marriage doesn’t need a social contract or marriage certificate to be completed. I’m speaking of benefits, you can name anyone to your health insurance, 401k, life insurance, power of attorney, living will etc. The only exception is if you’re already married your life insurance automatically goes to your spouse unless they sign a waiver stating it can go to another beneficiary.

          • philomena

            May I just interject here that in Massachusetts voters were not given the opportunity to vote for or against gay marriage. The supreme court of Massachusetts deemed gay marriage legitimate. So people’s voices were not allowed to be heard for or against. And it is not hate speech to disagree with the legitimacy of gay marriage. It is wrong to put people’s names on a boycott list or blacklist, unbeknownst to them, simply because they signed a petition to put the question of gay marriage on an election ballot.

          • Teresa Davis McCormick

            We are in fact a Republic, dear. “and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation…..”

          • Finrod Felagund

            Why should you have the ability to change marriage which has been the way it is for 5000 years? If everyone fighting for gay marriage had focused on civil unions instead, they would already have it and both gay and straight people would have coupling privileges all across the country. The fact that they have focused on the word ‘marriage’ instead tells me that they are less interested in getting people rights and more concerned with scoring political points.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Absolute nonsense. “Marriage” over the past 5000 years has included everything from polygamy, child brides, arranged marriages to dowries.

            –Cobra

          • Samh09

            You are right Lisa Dean, up until a few months ago Obama felt that marriage was between a man and a woman. At the Saddleback Civil Forum in 2008, when he was a US Senator running for President, Rick Warren asked Obama to define marriage his answer was “Marriage is between a man and a woman with God in the mix.” And yet no one who voted for him accused Barack Obama of hate speech or being hateful. Not even celebrity D-Lister Adrianne Curry. AC is pro Obama and very notorious for calling people hateful or hate filled when there are those who oppose gay marriage. I know I went off on a tangent. Sorry about that. Just putting in my two cents.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            Then maybe I am genuinely ignorant please explain it to me. There are lots of people who are against things politically and haven’t been accused of hate speech.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            46% of Mississippi Republicans want to make interracial marriage a CRIME.

            http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2011/04/mississippi-republicans/36455/

            –Cobra

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            There are republicans and democrats who feel that way. It’s not anything new and it’s found in all states. However, when it’s republicans who happen to live in the south that’s a disgrace I know.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            46% Lisa….almost HALF. If it was 10% or so, it wouldn’t be news.

            –Cobra

          • Finrod Felagund

            And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? People believe in ghosts and unicorns too.

          • FIRE THEM ALL- 2014

            Who cares anything about gay marriage, and comparing it to inter racial marriage is asinine because even if the man is purple with pink dots, and the woman is black with orange dots, they are still man and woman, and still procreate. The only reason for the gay marriage issue because even when they are in a relationship they rarely keep it to one partner, is to have an issue that irritates people just hearing about it, the same as their prancing in the street naked does most of us.

            I never cared a bit about gays until they started acting like exhibitionist and screaming for equality. In fact unless they are extremely feminine in behavior they were never even noticed as different. I just want them to shut up about it. Now can we get back on topic about Rice and her problem. It isn’t racist to call incompetent out so either do your job or shut up.

          • EEKman

            You’ve just made some offensive generalizations and diaplayed your callous insensitivity to a group of people who have to demonstrate and protest to fight for rights that you already have.

            If you can vote to suppress someone else’s rights can they vote to suppress yours? What if your state went 51% gay and they decided to vote to make traditional marriage illegal? How would you feel? Would you march in the street?

          • FIRE THEM ALL- 2014

            My state validated gay marriage. Now what do you have to say smarty? I didn’t vote for or against it because I am frankly sick of the entire argument. I don’t give a rip what gays do, never have and never will. Just leave the rest of us alone and do what you want.

          • LordLieutenant

            EEKman . There’s a difference between tolerance and acceptance. I’m all for social pressures defining what can be said in polite society because it shifts back and forth with a living populace, but what we’re seeing instead is a worrying trend towards the state imposing morality on others and sometimes prosecuting those that disagree.

            The concept of ‘hate speech’ is authoritarian as it prevents people the opportunity to express their views.

            Imagine an America where discussions around opposition to prohibition, legalising interracial marriage, disbanding Jim Crow and ending conscription were all classified at the time, by a majority vote, as ‘hate speech’

            I guess what I’m saying is that Liberalism under threat of prosecution isn’t Liberal in the same way that giving a wallet you stole to the Salvation Army is an act of charity.

          • Harlan Hikaru Fox

            The endgame for Progressive Liberalism, and nobody wants to say this, is dehumanization, and ultimately legalized killing, of those who don’t ‘fall in line’ with where the Progressives want to take things. This is why you hear so much made of ‘population control’.

          • LordLieutenant

            ‘Progressive Liberalism’ is a marketing statement rather than a political position as the people living in the ‘progressive’ embrace regress in every measure possible from education, income, life expectancy. As civil regression takes place, ever more authoritarian steps are taken to control the debate and revenues to sustain.

            Progressive Liberalism is Regressive Authoritarianism but I think (hope) folks will wise up before the endgame comes

      • FIRE THEM ALL- 2014

        Exactly right LordLieutenant, these issues need to be neutralized once and for all. Equality isn’t possible simply because people are not equal. Some are smart, some are good at what they do even if it doesn’t require a higher education in order to do what they do. Others are clumsy, inept, and or lazy and that won’t change by saying “you are equal” because the government dictates that you are. All I am saying is women have always been paid equal starting pay for equal work, if a man moves forward faster gets better raises there is usually a valid reason for it that has nothing to do with sexism.

        If women want to succeed stop thinking you need to be a b*tch to be a boss, stop complaining about every little wrong done to you, or you perceived done to you and start taking your lumps the same way men do in the work place. Frankly if anyone is picked on or discriminated against now, it is white men.

        • EEKman

          Everyone is supposed to be equal under the law. No one is saying people have equal talents and abilities.

        • Harlan Hikaru Fox

          What you’re missing about Progressive “equality” is this. “Group X was discriminated against for Y number of years, so now White Men must be discriminated against to make it equal!”

      • Garth Haycock

        All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

    • Elaine

      If not for Twitchy, I wouldn’t even know who this toure guy is!

    • WinstonOrwell

      Here’s a history lesson for all of the brainwashed Marxist sheeple. The democrats invented the K K K as the terrorist wing of their party along with the racist Jim Crow laws of the south. The democrats also share many similarities with their ideological brethren the N A Z I’s. N A Z I is short for the national SOCIALIST workers party of Germany. That’s correct leftwing totalitarians, your the true racists. You need to own YOUR legacy of racism and fascism.

  • http://www.vatican.va/ Rulz

    “I don’t think McCain is racist but I sadly think it’s easier to get some to believe a Black woman is incompetent.”

    Like those who made fun of and voted against Mia Love?

    • therantinggeek

      You’d think…

  • AG FLawless

    @kirstenpowers10 is like trying to be a caregiver to the mentally challenged. She must feel a calling?

  • Steve_J

    Toure”s not very sharp is he?

    • Garth Haycock

      As Foghorn Leghorn would say, “That boy’s about as sharp as a bowling ball.”

    • bobringer

      Racist

  • Jack Deth

    Competency and accountability means NOTHING to race hustling and baiting, anti-semite liberals who hold cabinet positions or office on the Democrat side of the aisle.

    The fact that whomever they have selected is black, Hispanic, lesbian, gay, handicapped or whatever else. That person should be protected by either Teflon, a fawning media, or Courageous Cat’s “Shield of Steel” from any controversy regarding their complete lack of intelligence or competency.

  • Streetiebird

    It’s silly to think these attacks are racially motivated. They’re clearly motivated by partisan hatred for Obama and a deep desire to see Benghazi turn into an actual scandal. Otherwise these same guys wouldn’t have defended Condoleeza Rice when she parroted incorrect intelligence, exactly like this Rice. http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/11/30/myths-and-facts-about-the-conservative-medias-w/191597

    • Jack Deth

      Blah! Blah! Blah! Blah!

      Race Card!
      Race Card!
      Race Card!

      At least have the decency to use viable source material when you come here with your petty, nondescript, liberal talking point annoyances.

      • EEKman

        Streetiebird didn’t play any race card.

        Way to cover your ears. Source material would be being older than 18 and having at least a passing interest in politics. It explains a lot, are you even old enough to remember the Iraq war?

        • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

          I am old enough to remember the Iraq War, Iran Contra, Kuwait, Iran Embassy Hostages etc. and I do believe that it was @Streetiebird:disqus who posted the article for @disqus_sd8CCAl8aq:disqus to reference.

          • Jack Deth

            That’s okay, Lisa.

            I’ve had forty plus years to distrust and disavow liberals in general and Democrats in particular.

            I just like watching them foam at the mouth like a Fizzee before their heads explode. Very ‘Scanners’ like.

        • SpinMeNot

          I’m much older than 18 — did you, or any of your family/children serve in the any of the Gulf Wars? The most recent war I have no first hand memories of is the Korean War, but I remember seeing the men who had left parts of themselves there when I was a child. I’m guessing I’ve seen way more patriots in bags and coffins than you can even imagine.

          You aren’t going to get a treat from your handlers if you can’t do better than that …

          I’d call you a moron, but that would be an insult to actual morons. Lets go with …

          Idiot.

      • Streetiebird

        Ummm okay… I’m saying it’s NOT racially motivated, how is that a race card? LOL

    • Ksmith934Smith

      you know! Your point is actually one that can be debated but the whole racism meme is CRAP!

    • EEKman

      It is just as likely that Graham, McCain and Collins are criticizing Rice to get Obama to nominate Kerry instead, to free his seat for Scott Brown. They all have ties to Scott Brown.

    • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

      So you’re going to use an article with talking points that’s been proven wrong by everyone involved. i.e. White House, Sec of State, CIA etc. It’s not motivated by a partisan hatred of Obama (give that one a rest already) it’s trying to get answers . That’s it and that’s all. It’s easy to cry racism, hatred, evil old grumpy white men when you don’t want to explain yourself.

      • Streetiebird

        Awww it’s okay if it’s too much effort to read the article and look at the sources. I’m all ears if you can prove that any of these “talking points” are false.

        • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

          I did look at your article. So far Clinton and Obama have stated that it wasn’t because of a video, it wasn’t a spontaneous riot and Rice’s “talking points” weren’t what were originally issued by the CIA. It’s ok sweetie it’s not an effort for me to debate you.

          • Streetiebird

            LOL looking at the article apparently isn’t the same as reading it. So you dispute which points exactly? I’m still waiting for you to even attempt to show me where any part of the article I posted is wrong using ANY source from anywhere. Until you do it’s hardly a debate.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            Read, looked, comprehended and I told you the talking points that have been disputed since they were spoken in Sept, Oct and Nov. You know, the ones that are quoted in you’re article from Fox news, WSJ, The Post, AP etc. And I do believe your sentence was “read and look at the sources” you ninny

          • Streetiebird

            Thanks for your kind words. I assume this means you have no way to back up your claims.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean
          • Streetiebird

            Your link is old, lots has happened since early October. Do try again, I’m waiting for anything that shows any one of my points is wrong.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            You’re right, lots has happened since October. So please share where they said it wasn’t a video after they went ahead and said it was caused by the youtube video

          • Streetiebird

            LOL you must have poor reading comprehension, all of this was in my FIRST link.
            Rice said that the attack was apparently linked with the protests in Cairo = fact
            The protests in Cairo were linked to the video = fact (do you dispute the cause of the protests in Cairo?)
            Even some of the attackers in Benghazi said that their anger was over the video = fact
            So why would anyone say that it was unrelated to the video when it was at least provoked by the protests in Cairo OVER THE VIDEO.
            Show me where they said it was ONLY related to the video and not the cairo unrest.
            I’ll re-link again since you didn’t read it the first time: http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/11/30/myths-and-facts-about-the-conservative-medias-w/191597

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            So we go from Benghazi, which is why people are questioning Rice, to Cairo. People aren’t questioning Rice over her response to Cairo. When she went on five Sunday talk shows she mentioned Benghazi was caused by a youtube video. Bate and switch, Bate and switch.

          • Streetiebird

            LOL you really have a hard time reading what was posted. They’re criticizing her over her comments about Benghazi, where she said they were influenced by the events in Cairo. It’s complicated, I know, but try to keep up. And show me a single quote where she said “Benghazi was caused by a YouTube video” please, since she supposedly said it on five Sunday talk shows.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            Stories changed as time went on and Obama didn’t call it a terrorist attack in the Rose Garden briefing. That was even disputted by Candy Crowley after she mispoke during the debate. http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/10/world/libya-attack-statements/index.html

          • Streetiebird

            “Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe,” he said. “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.”

            Try again.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            Do show me where he called Benghazi and act of terror. Try again yourself sweetie

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            Sorry, where he called Benghazi an act of terror.

          • Streetiebird

            LOL are you seriously denying that the act of terror he was referring to was the one he was holding a press conference to talk about? WOW, so what act of terror was he talking about?

          • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

            Yes, I am denying that he called Benghazi an act of terror. As are many, many others including reporters who don’t work for Fox News since you hate any reference to them so much. And when he mentions Benghazi directly he calls it “an outrageous attack” or “attack”. If he were calling Benghazi an “act of terror” he would have said it after Benghazi like he did “an outrageous attack” or “attack”.

          • Streetiebird

            So what act of terror was he referring to during the presser? I’m all ears.

          • SpinMeNot

            It nauseates me to hear this repeated. And if we pass the stimulus, and if we pass Obamacare, and if we raise taxes on the rich, to get enough money to run the federal government for just under 9 days, we can reduce the deficit ..

            More lies, in a long line of lies from a man that was born in Kenya, when that helped in get ahead, then not born in Kenya. From a man that has a part of the Shahada inscribed on his wedding ring …

            Idiot. You’ve apparently had too many treats from your handlers and are now just busy pressing that little bar in your hamster cage hoping they’ll give you more.

            Not on my watch Missy, Try again. No one here is denying they said what they said — it was a lie from the moment they released the first information about the attack.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Birtherism is the express lane to having your arguments laughed at, Spin.

            –Cobra

          • SpinMeNot

            Where did I say anything about birtherism … When BHO was flogging his book, he and his literary agent created a pamphlet that stated he was from Kenya …

            http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/born-kenya-obamas-literary-agent-misidentified-birthplace-1991/story?id=16372566

            This was done to sell the book, and then to help his run for office in Illinois

            The when he wanted to run for President, he was wasn’t. And it was blamed on his literary agent … where did she get the idea? I believe it was just another lie to further his career.

            Stop reading things into what people type and stick to the facts: ”
            More lies, in a long line of lies from a man that was born in Kenya,
            when that helped in [him] get ahead, then not born in Kenya.”

            When it helped him get ahead .. I never once stated that I believe he was born in Kenya. He’s an American Citizen — his records have been sealed to hide something, but its got nothing to do with his citizenship.

            Your ability to jump to what you want, would indicate that you need to work on your critical thinking, then maybe we’ll quit laughing at your posts.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Laughing? I laughed my ass all the way to the polls on Nov 6. and watch my selection, Barack Hussein Obama be declared President-elect only 12 minutes later than in 2008 over the last rich old White guy you Republicans threw at him.

            I’m still laughing now.

            –Cobra

          • Guest

            So, you voted for the rich old black guy.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Actually, Obama’s really not that old.

            –Cobra

          • Guest

            Subjective

          • SpinMeNot

            Laugh all you want, it is your right. But you’ve confirmed what I thought … liberal progressive puke. By the way, if you’d been paying attention, you’d know I’m not a registered Republican … I’m not a registered anything. I vote issues, not party. I think for myself.

            You might try it …

          • SpinMeNot

            Oh sorry, technically he hasn’t been declared President for his second term yet. This task falls to the House and Senate, they will get together in late December and validate the Certificates of Vote by the Electoral College at the Office of the Federal Register. At this point, any missing CoVs are identified, and requests for submission sent. On Jan 6, 2013 Congress will meet in joint session to count and validate the CoV. At this point in time, Congress declares him winner … right now, he’s still technically a lame duck. However, I fully expect that on 06 JAN 2013, BHO will be confirmed as having won a second term. And unlike you and your ilk being pathetically sore winners, I’m a big enough man to say, “The people have spoken.”

            I’m happy for you your guy won, we’ll see how happy any of us are in 2 to 3 years.

            Oh, and nice “call sign” junior … makes you seem almost tough.

            I’ll be around .. feel free to engage anytime you want. However, I’m through being polite to you. I had hoped you might actually be a rational liberal, but alas, your response proves you are not.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Right, because going back to the last quarter of 2008 with Bush, America was in SO much better shape.

            –Cobra

          • SpinMeNot

            Actually we were — debt was lower, unemployment rates were lower, a larger percentage of the working age population had jobs, and the average net worth of the average American citizen was higher. The average value of a house was higher, and our credit rating was better.

            Any more brain dead generalities you’d like to make?

            Facts junior, facts.

            Moron.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            The world economy was on the verge of collapse in the fall and Winter of 2008. Do you dispute this?

            –Cobra

          • SpinMeNot

            I do not dispute there was economic turmoil caused by a collapsing US housing market caused by legislation passed under Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich. But global economic collapse, no, we weren’t anywhere near that. Nothing BHO has done can be shown to have causally prevented anything or made it in the least bit better. We are worse off now then we were then, by every indication.

            Deny all you want, believe your talking points more than facts. The EU is about to go under, and we aren’t far behind.

            “Never let a crisis go to waste”. Too big to fail, Stimulus that did nothing. We don’t know what would have happened.

          • SpinMeNot

            Sorry, I left out a few
            — cost of energy was lower (gas, electricity, etc)
            — my grocery bill was smaller, and I had more people living in my house.
            — my insurance rates were lower (house, health, and car)
            — we hadn’t lost an Ambassador to jihadi attacks covered up by lies.
            — The middle east was more stable
            — Poland still liked us …
            — We didn’t have a POTUS that was willing to be more flexible for Vladimir …

            I can go on, but you get the picture. Expect more of the same stuff for the next 4 years, and the next 4 years after that and so one. Americans would rather have free stuff, than the basic freedoms we once enjoyed.

            I hear your handlers are going to install a lever in your cage, so you can get your treats yourself. However, unless you start doing better, they probably won’t refill the bin, so ration them out.

          • Streetiebird

            Never listening to you again :) Thanks for still dropping by though!

          • SpinMeNot

            Thats ok, I know that brain dead liberal progressive pukes can’t deal with the facts, I don’t ever expect you to listen to me … but its odd that you keep replying … sort of defeats the whole purpose. I’m not going anywhere Idiot, I will be here to provide others the facts and showing you to be a fool.

            Not on my watch Missy. See ya in the funny papers.

          • Streetiebird

            LOL :)

          • SpinMeNot

            Your claims are what — that the article is accurate, and it is with regard to what the people said — that doesn’t mean they were telling the truth.

            They lied, from the start. I’ll keep repeating it …

            Idiot.

          • SpinMeNot

            I dispute the veracity of the statement being cited as fact — I do not dispute what was said — they said it, they knew it was a lie and they said it.

            Idiot.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            I suppose since David Petraeus (white man) was the HEAD of the CIA at the time, and that his mistress (white woman) Paula Broadwell, made these subsequent statements at a college in Denver, Oct. 26th

            “”The fact that came out today is that the ground forces there at the
            CIA annex, which is different from the consulate, were requesting
            reinforcements.

            “They were requesting the – it’s called the C-in-C’s In Extremis
            Force – a group of Delta Force operators, our very, most talented guys
            we have in the military. They could have come and reinforced the
            consulate and the CIA annex. Now, I don’t know if a lot of you have
            heard this but the CIA annex had actually taken a couple of Libyan
            militia members prisoner, and they think that the attack on the
            consulate was an attempt to get these prisoners back. It’s still being
            vetted.

            “The challenging thing for Gen. Petraeus is that in his new position,
            he’s not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of
            this – they had correspondence with the CIA station chief in Libya,
            within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening.”

            http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/161964#.ULpnTWcuFrY

            Now, the CIA denied this:

            “Any suggestion that the agency is still in the detention business is
            uninformed and baseless,” agency spokesman Preston Golson said.

            http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/12/paula-broadwell-benghazi-cia-petraeus

            But these are questions that can surely go to explaining the motivation for the attack (rescue attempt…hostage swap, etc), and ALSO the sanitized, misleading talking points provided for Rice to use on television. I find it fascinating that the fixation is on the messenger, and not the author of the message, or where the inspiration to write the message came from.

            –Cobra

          • Todd A Scheller

            These quotes help Ambassador Rice out how? Thanks for proving that the intell was there to prove her wrong while she was in National TV lying to the public.
            ~Honey Badger

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Todd, there are WHITE MEN involved in Benghazi.

            Deal with it.

            –Cobra

          • Todd A Scheller

            Never claimed there was other wise. Your own racism is appalling.
            ~Honey Badger

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Did I call the White Men involved in Benghazi, “incompetent” or “not too bright?”

            –Cobra

          • Todd A Scheller

            Who called someone not so bright? Are you sure it was not actions that they were referring to as not to bright? Reading is really not your forte is it?
            What has McCain said specifically that go to Amb. Rice’s race? How about Powers?
            ~Honey Badger

          • Todd A Scheller

            Do either of those terms refer to race?
            ~Honey Badger

        • SpinMeNot

          Let’s see … what’s that word I’m looking for … oh yeah, cover up from the start.

          Anybody with any combat experience that got any of the information about the attack that was available with 24 hours knew that was not a spontaneous protest, but an organized planned attack. The Libyan Government contradicted what our government was telling us … personally, I’d have been happy if they had confirmed it was a spontaneous demonstration, used as an opportunity by a small group of jihadis to attack an American facility. And it would have looked a lot better with regard to the capabilities of the new Libyan government to maintain a secure and safe country we can deal with moving forward. But no, they said there was no demonstration, and it was an organized planned attack.

          Oh, and lets not forget, it was 9/11 — do a little research, Islamofascist jihadis love anniversaries and building mosques on the sites of places they consider themselves to have won a great victory … like the one they want to build in NYC near ground zero.

          So, anybody watching live drone footage, in a uniform, with a flag/staff rank knew exactly what was going on … so they lied to the public — because it didn’t fit the narrative. Al Qaeda will never be on the run, unless we kill every Muslim in the Middle East that refuses to publicly denounce terrorism in the name of Islam and provide no further aid or assistance to those that do.

          I don’t really care what they said under oath or otherwise; they still lied. That is what liberal-progressive pukes and their drones do — they lie. Because the truth is they have nothing else but hope in a failed ideology that doesn’t work in a world as full of immoral people as ours is.

          And for the record, I looked at the article as well.

          You’ve been officially demoted to idiot. Idiot is the classification used to refer to an individual that is physically older than the age of three, but doesn’t have ability to reason at level above that of the average three-year old.

          Go watch Dora the Explorer and leave the adults to talk.

          Idiot.

          • Streetiebird

            Thanks for following me around, it shows you care. But I have stopped reading your replies. Have a great day!

          • SpinMeNot

            Don’t flatter yourself, I’m not following you anywhere. You post in a thread I am reading, and its more of your liberal-progressive talking points and outright lies, I will rain down on your parade. I will not sit by, I will not be polite.

            But apparently you seem to be craving my attention … since you keep taking the time to tell me you aren’t reading my posts. Fine by me, you just prove my point.

            Idiot.

          • Streetiebird

            “I will not be polite” I KNOW!

    • SpinMeNot

      Benghazi is a scandal — 4 men died, because DoS denied repeated requests for additional security. 2 men died while lasing targets and calling for CAS; SEALs don’t designate targets when there are no assets in the area, SEALs don’t stay in one place unless they believe there is going to be assistance. You don’t want it to be scandal, and therefore it isn’t. I got news for you dipstick — you are wrong, as usual.

      As far as Rice, I’m guessing we are now going to Bush Lied about WMDs … it wasn’t Bush alone, every western intelligence agency had credible evidence they were there … they had them before, used them before (in the Iran-Iraq War). The question becomes where did they go, not were they there. The difference is the WMDs were credible intel, the video/demostration was a lie, a lie they created an maintained long after it was credible.

      MediaMatters is not a valid source for any claim … if you think Fox is biased and MediaMatters isn’t … well, you know where this is going.

      Moron.

      • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

        They were “ex-seals”….contractors for hire.

        –Cobra

        • Guest

          Umm, do you understand anything about being a government contractor? Apparently not.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Do you, anonymous?

            –Cobra

          • Guest

            Umm, yes…

        • Todd A Scheller

          Do you have any idea what it takes to become a SEAL? There is no such thing as an ex-SEAL. Glen Doherty was a contractor, Tyrone S. Woods was am member of the Diplomatic Security Service of the State Department. He was a FEDERAL EMPLOYEE.
          ~Honey Badger

        • SpinMeNot

          Once, always. The proper term is former, and they were CIA employees.

          Keep humping the coconut, your handlers will come by shortly and give you a treat.

      • Streetiebird

        Love you too hun <3

    • Finrod Felagund

      Look, Shittybird is back with his bird droppings on Twitchy again. I guess he didn’t get his ass kicked enough last time he was here.

      • Streetiebird

        LOL my ass has never been kicked here! :) But thanks for your kind words.

  • JimmyNeutron

    Ok, I’m new to Twitter and have something like three followers – a business that wants to spam me, someone I don’t know, and a beautiful 24 year old girl in Spain that wants to become my girlfriend. My question is, if I add Toure so I can see and reply to his idiocy will that deter normal people from following me?

    • JimmyNeutron

      I did it. Followed Toure and immediately he posted something asinine and I snarked him! I love Twitter!

    • Rabid

      Make that 4 :)

    • irishgirl91

      I got on twitter during the elections to use as a research filter. I followed a bunch of political blogs and I love it, but like you I only have a few followers. It doesn’t bother me because I don’t have a blog. I don’t understand people who follow people they hate, it would frustrate the hell out of me. It is enough to read huffpo.

  • Nana Taylor

    You wont get through to them Kirsten. Nice of you to try, but it doesnt match their personal paradigms. No matter what if you are a conservative, tea party member, or Republican you are AN ANATHEMA TO THEM… anti women, anti color, anti progress. Facts do not matter, only that you dont hold the same political ideology as they do. The race card is a convienent crutch for those who are too brainwashed to look at facts and just stick with their pre-conceived bigotted stereotypes. They dont judge other humans on their character, skills, or natural talents, they judge them immediately on their political persuasion. They use no sense of self reflection to re-think any and all judgements because they believe and are convinced by others that they are correct. Nothing will get through to them. NOTHING.

    • EEKman

      Are we talking about republicans or democrats? This sounds like a projection to me.

      • TexSizzle

        So stop projecting.

      • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

        Yeah, I can see how you’re confused, what with Republicans constantly playing the race card.

  • disqus_eric

    Tourhole is such a creep.

  • HARP2

    I think Toure is equal with women in EVERY way although he could use a decent haircut AND pee sitting down if he REALLY wanted equality.

  • medicinewomantwo

    See, this is the quality of journalism(Toure)you get when your company concentrates on merely affirmative action rather than true qualification.

  • FFlintstone

    This is a big part of why America is in the poor shape that its in. Liberals, the media, colleges, and universities are judging people by the color of their skin and what’s between their legs rather than by the content of their character.

    You can’t discriminate against race when it comes to housing and employment. Shouldn’t we strive to be a society that doesn’t discriminate on the basis of race when it comes to politics, government, and (cough) The Supreme Court?

    • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

      America has judging people on race since day one. Where have you been?

      –Cobra

  • AlmaAlma

    Toure has some big chip on his shoulder. Toure, listen up, when you automatically assume white people are acting racistly, you are showing YOUR racism. You are no better than those true white racists of the past. You are them now. You are continuing the hatred.

    • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

      I want to know why James Clapper, the guy in charge of the DNI, where Susan Rice’s talking points originated, hasn’t been mentioned by Kirsten, McCain or Fox News?

      –Cobra

      • michael s

        because he’s white. thus the venom isn’t designed for him by fox news mccain ayotte collins kirsten etc.

        • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

          Correct. You don’t even see the right wingers here using the name James Clapper, because they don’t know or much less, care who he is, and what involvement he has with this story. They’ve got the rhetorical lynch mob out for Susan Rice.

          –Cobra

          • Todd A Scheller

            Wow, you actually got his name right in this post, then an hour alter get it wrong again. What an idiot.
            ~Honey Badger

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            “James Clapper”….say his name, Todd. Come on. You can do it. He’s a fine looking older White gentleman, who is a key figure in this case.

            Say his name.

            –Cobra

          • michael s

            the same with John Brennan . We see the free passes given to whites who were much more responsible. Or Biden who said much of the same that UN Ambassador Rice said. I’ve yet to see a post why is Biden doing sitcoms and not dealing with Benghazi. If it was me Kirsten would’ve been put in her place in 2 tweets.

      • Todd A Scheller

        Are you being purposely stupid?

        “I participated in hours of hearings in the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence last week regarding the events in Benghazi, where senior intelligence officials were asked this very question, and all of them —
        including the Director of National Intelligence himself — told us that
        they did not know who made the changes.”

        John McCain

        You know who the DNI is, so why does he have to call him bay name?
        ~Honey Badger

        • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

          Say the name Todd.

          –Cobra

          • Todd A Scheller

            If you can identify the person by the title of their job, why do we need to say the name?
            ~Honey Badger

  • Garth Haycock

    Sometimes, I wonder if Ms. Powers claiming to be a liberal is an act. She just doesn’t fit today’s definition of what a liberal is.

  • Teresa Davis McCormick

    Well he backed down, but it took a while. But they all do eventually.

  • DizzyMissL

    Toure is a complete idiot. This makes him perfect for the folks that watch MSNBC.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lisa.dean.564 Lisa Dean

    If you want to get everyone riled up use the race and sexist cards. If Susan Rice wants to do a job that’s dominated by men (by that I mean she’s going to deal with lots of men in high positions from other countries) she better be able to handle some flack. I’m a firm believer that a woman better be able to do a job and back up her statements without the help of other men/women crying racism or sexism. All that does is make you look incompetent and loses respect.

    • Lin Jarvis

      Exactly.

    • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

      You understand that the Majority of the people living on the planet that we live on are NOT White or Male, right?

      –Cobra

  • WisconsinPatriot

    Game………set………MATCH!!!!!

  • fivestring_assassin

    Toure’ is the new breed of racist. Just as intellectually bankrupt as old school like “Rev” Al Sharpton

    • michael s

      toure is a victim of racism. he can’t be a racist.

      • fivestring_assassin

        Toure’ PROFITS off racism…real or imagined…writes books and appears of television,,,,he profits by keeping Blacks “oppressed”…in all actuality he is a race pimp

        • michael s

          Toure never oppressed any black person. Stop being dishonest.

      • Finrod Felagund

        Toure is a victim of his own stupidity and can’t see past the color of his own skin.

  • http://boogieforward.us/ K-Bob

    Only Democrats care about skin color.

  • rivers

    Poor Toure. I say walk a mile in his shoes, say, from his place in Brooklyn to his job as co-host of a television show that allows him a platform to make his voice heard over the airwaves. You’d be a professional victim too if you had to work at MSNBC.

  • Elena0412

    You’re raaaaaacist! = I lost the argument.

  • Lin Jarvis

    I love that comment that “Rice isn’t responsible for anything”. But it doesn’t go quite far enough. No one in this adm. is ever responsible for anything.

  • KansasGirl

    I think tourette has shown his obsession…and it is racism.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    So when McCain uses racial slurs to describe Vietnamese….
    http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/McCain-Criticized-for-Slur-He-says-he-ll-keep-3304741.php

    Lauds the White Christian Male Power Structure….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysoOB9w0tF4

    Or votes against a federal Holiday for Martin Luther King….

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/04/world/americas/04iht-04mccain-king.11684697.html

    What should an unbiased observer construe about his frequent attitudes on race?

    –Cobra

    • michael s

      totally correct.

    • Finrod Felagund

      If you used a slur against a group that had tortured you for years, I’d forgive you for it. Every man has a moment of weakness. The rest is just penny-ante crap, the type you seem to specialize in.

      • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

        So actions of individuals excuse slurs on the entire group.

        Gotcha.

        –Cobra

        • Guest

          You do the same thing when you try and make it out that all white people are subject to the same criticism as one when you point out an individual of whom you disapprove it white. Back to logic 101 for you little boy.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            What slurs have I used against Whites?

            –Cobra

          • Guest

            Hmm, you’re constantly referring to people of which whom you are critical as white. Why don’t you do the same thing when you are talking about anyone else? Face there homespun, you’re a racist and everyone knows it – even you.

          • Todd A Scheller

            Cobra Constructive_Feedback • 20 days ago

            The preceding message on Black self-hatred from Crab Salad was brought to you by a host of new and improved Skin Bleaching Products.

            “If you ain’t White….you ain’t right.”

            –Cobra

          • Todd A Scheller

            Cobra Constructive_Feedback • 20 days ago

            Translation: “Vote WHITE and WHITE Only.”

            –Cobra

          • Todd A Scheller

            Cobra • 23 days ago

            How long before those grainy photos of a blonde-haired, blue-eyed “sister-wife” starts circulating in the tabloids?

            –Cobra
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  • WhiteFalcon1

    IMA RIOT….

  • mhojai

    WHEN are people going to have enough of this racism crap?!
    Actual fact and experience (reality) mean nothing to them! It’s not a “concern,” it’s a strategy of intimidation, trying shut-off dissent.
    There’s no arguing with someone who isn’t making a point, but using a verbal blugeon.
    (That’s why God gave us middle fingers)

  • http://twitter.com/paul92107 paul avery

    Gorgeous picture of Kirsten!

  • dwsmokin

    Why is the same CIA intel that GW, Condi Rice,etc, got ripped for basing their decisions on now suddenly a valid reason for Rice to get a pass? CIA provided intel to Bush & Congress on Iraq, yet GW lied. Now CIA supplies intel to Rice and it’s all the big, bad CIA that put the poor woman on the spot? Toure needs to grow up…or grow a pair.

    • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

      Why aren’t you ripping the CIA in both cases?

      –Cobra

  • Richard Carpenter

    I think this is why a lot of white people have hesitations about voting for,and in some cases working with blacks. I have worked 30+ years and have seen it more than a handful of times… any mention of the person not doing a job right, not being on time, being called on the carpet… the first thing that is always mentioned is racism. I’m sorry but it happens. You wont be able to look at Rice out of the corner of your eye without being called one.

    • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

      How does that excuse the behavior of the GOP in this case? James Trapper, DNI, David Petraeus, CIA, Mueller, FBI even Hillary Clinton, Sec. of State, go almost unmentioned, yet they have infinitely more to do with this incident than Susan Rice.

      THIS is why a lot of MINORITIES who live in America have hesitation trusting or in some cases working with Whites. We know that no matter what our academic or professional accomplishments or backgrounds are, we will be considered “inferior” at worst, subject to discrimination or unfair scrutiny, while a White male in a similiar position will always be given the benefit of the doubt.

      • Todd A Scheller

        Hello Idiot, the DNI’s name is James Clapper you moron. The DNI has not gone unmentioned, remember on the day that he told the Senate Intell Committee that he did not know who changed the talking points, he told the press that his office did.
        ~Honey Badger

        • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

          How many times has James Clapper’s name been mentioned by John McCain, Kirsten Powers or even YOU, you tick-bitten internet troll? Why are you extending the benefit of anonymity to this older White man?

          –Cobra

          • Todd A Scheller

            Once again do you know who he is by his job? How stupid do you have to be? I have used his name several times, mostly when you get it wrong, dumbass. I am not extending his anonymity, most rational people know who the DNI is, so sorry you struggle with this, and need him named specifically.
            Kirsten Powers is a DEMOCRAT, nor does she have a vote to advise or consent to any nomination put forth by Obama. Nor do I.
            Your ignorance is amazing, as is your own racism.
            ~Honey Badger
            ~Honey Badger
            ~Honey Badger

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Kirsten Powers is a well-paid employee of Roger Ailes’ Fox News.

            Disagree?

            –Cobra

          • Todd A Scheller

            She is a Democraty. Disagree? What the hell does her employer have to do with her politician registration? Keep proving you are an idiot.
            ~Honey Badger

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Because Kirsten Powers has over a million reasons to keep up this charade.

            –Cobra

          • Todd A Scheller

            This changes her party affiliation how? You really are dense.
            ~Honey Badger

      • michael s

        John Brennan as well. Its easy to see what this is about. Facts don’t matter when you want to promote racism. Just like those who say where’s the investigation on Benghazi? It doesn’t matter that the FBI,CIA,NSA State Dept,Senate and House are investigating the act of terrorism that day. Kirsten is very good with the deception she practices. Notice the code language she uses about black ladies that defend Amb Rice. I’ve said from the beginning its about black blood. When the venom is properly spewed i’ll change my position. Also Cobra the white femme isn’t to be excluded. That’s why i include ayotte,collins jeanine pirro kirsten in the string em up mentality being pushed.

  • michael s

    i am glad this is happening. you know what i think about her. rep clyburn stated what’s racist about mccain’s attack on UN Amb Rice. when is kirsten going to subject her former boss hillary as well as biden and panetta to the string em up mentality she’s taking part in.

  • philomena

    Touraaacist explains away his own brand of bigotry by hurling insulting comments about Sarah Palin. He seems to equate brilliance and unassailability of one’s judgement and character with being a Rhodes scholar. Hmm, Mel Reynolds was a Rhodes scholar as was Bill Clinton. That resume enhancer is losing its prestige in the same way the Nobel prize has diminished after some recent recipients. Obama used Rice as a patsy to go out and release the trial balloon of deceit about Benghazi. I would say that’s far more offensive and cynical than what McCain, Graham and Ayotte said. The truth is their defense. What’s Obama’s?

  • http://ITSPEOPLE.com/ Tantalus XVI

    A white man cannot hire a black SoS without being a racist, hence that explains your employment at MSNBC.

    That tweet would have ended that stupid little argument. Throw that crap right back in their faces. DAMN!!! I wish these people grow some balls! Even the non-race baiter libs like Powers.

  • http://twitter.com/EFPanknin Eric Panknin

    Ok, incompetent and mentally inferior are now “code words.”

  • https://twitter.com/ColonelHaiku Colonel Haiku

    Clowné Flambé

  • http://twitter.com/joyreaper Lisa

    Liberals are good at doing the very things they accuse conservatives of doing. There can be no healthy debate between conservatives & liberals until the dishonest pulling of race & class cards stops and issues are debated. The biggest racism in this country right now is the using of a race for political gain, e.g., the “race card.” At some point the races & classes have to stand up and say, “Please don’t use me in this way!” Where is Susan Rice’s voice on this? Will she allow herself to be used by liberals as a race card? She should take full responsibility for her actions. The truth is clear. She as a White House representative presented an untruth to the American people that any competent person would have realized was untrue. That’s incompetent! There can be no debate without truth as a foundation. Anything less than truth is a cover-up!

    • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

      What’s dishonest is removing race, class and gender from debates in the first place, when the nation has struggled with those three issues since its enception.

      –Cobrs

      • Todd A Scheller

        Why when addressing actions of the individual do we have to consider race, class, or gender? Who was it that said this again?

        I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

        NOw you have a problem with exactly that being done, and want to inject the color of skin, class, and gender into the discussion. Great way to take three steps back.
        ~Honey Badger

        • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

          White men persecuted, wired tapped, imprisoned and eventually murdered Dr. Martin Luther King.

          Disagree, hayseed?

          –Cobra

          • Todd A Scheller

            This changes his statement how? Disagree, reverse racist?
            ~Honey Badger

          • Guest

            I think it’s funny that if you google black on white crime you get the same top results as if you google white on black crime…

          • Finrod Felagund

            Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. Under your rules you’d say he got what was coming to him, since that’s been your attitude towards crap given to every other Republican on the planet.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Finrod, can you produce the voter registration card of Martin Luther King Jr that proved he was a Republican? How about a direct quote?

            –Cobra

          • Guest

            http://blog.heritage.org/2012/01/15/martin-luther-king%E2%80%99s-conservative-principles/

            Martin Luther King Day has arrived once again, and like clockwork, liberals are invoking King’s name to support their causes.
            In an e-mail to activists, Obama’s former “green czar,” Van Jones, calls King the “original Occupier.” He urges activists to use MLK day meet-ups to energize left-wing campaigning for 2012.
            Despite these efforts, conservatives should not surrender King’s legacy to the left.
            Conservatives, of course, have reservations about certain aspects of King’s legacy. For one, he became too close, later in his career, to the welfare state. He was enamored of the theology of the Social Gospel, the movement that undermined much of mainstream Protestantism in the 20th century. Later in life, he was a vocal opponent of American involvement in the Vietnam. And we now know that in his scholarship and personal life King was far from perfect.
            Nevertheless, there are three ways in which King’s message is profoundly conservative and relevant.
            First, of course, concerns the question of race. King dreamed of a nation for his children where they would be judged not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. He dreamed of a color-blind society based on the equality of all Americans and their sharing of equal unalienable rights.
            The American dream, King said at Lincoln University in 1961, “says that each individual has certain basic rights that are neither conferred by nor derived from the state. To discover where they came from it is necessary to move back behind the dim mist of eternity, for they are God-given.… The American dream reminds us that every man is heir to the legacy of worthiness.”
            An agenda that advocates quotas, counting by race and set-asides, takes us away from King’s vision.
            Second, King believed in the critical importance of faith and moral character. He spoke of self-improvement and self-help in both moral and practical terms. He believed in work ethic and thrift and spoke against crime and disorderly conduct. In stark contrast to modern liberalism’s militant secularism, King explicitly ground his efforts in the Christian tradition. King believed that churches and other faith-based associations were necessary for a grassroots revival of American culture.
            He also stressed the importance of the family. Indeed, King’s fears about black family breakdown led him to become one of the few civil-rights leaders not to reject Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s controversial 1965 report that warned of rising illegitimacy rates among blacks.
            This forgotten aspect of King’s thought is told expertly in an article entitled “Where Dr. King Went Wrong.” Joel Schwartz suggests that King turned to the welfare state when he became disheartened by the emergence of the black underclass.
            Third, King firmly embraced the core principles of America’s founding. Unlike so many modern liberals beset with nihilistic multiculturalism, King did not talk about remaking America. His dream was one “deeply rooted in the American dream,” as he said, and one that hearkened back to America’s founding principles
            “When these disinherited children of God sat down at lunch counters,” King wrote in his “Letter From a Birmingham Jail,” “they were in reality standing up for what is best in the American dream and for the most sacred values in our Judaeo-Christian heritage, thereby bringing our nation back to those great wells of democracy which were dug deep by the founding fathers in their formulation of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.”
            Martin Luther King, Jr.’s understanding of these things—equality, the importance of faith and morality, and America’s founding principles—has great implications for our politics and policies today. While all Americans recall his ringing words, honest liberals and discerning conservatives ought to remind us of King’s real legacy.

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Where’s the voter registration card? Where’s the direct quote from King declaring himself a Republican? That’s just some Heritage Foundation pablum trying to whitewash the anti-civil rights conservative legacy.

            –Cobra

          • Todd A Scheller

            King actually declared that he usually voted a Democratic ticket in a letter in October 1956. You really are not very smart if you actually think that this a true statement, rather than a false meme made up by the extreme right to disguise the truth. Once again you prove not to be smarter than a Fifth Grader.
            ~Honey Badger

          • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

            Post the letter, Todd.

            –Cobra

          • Guest

            Did you actually read what he wrote before you asked him to provide the letter of which he said doesn’t exist?

          • Todd A Scheller

            It can be found here you lazy individual: King, Jr., Martin Luther (1992). Carson, Clayborne; Holloran, Peter; Luker, Ralph et al.. eds. The papers of Martin Luther King, Jr.. University of California Press. p. 384. ISBN 978-0-520-07951-9. Retrieved 2011-10-26.
            What else do you not know about our history?
            ~Honey Badger

          • Guest

            Funny, you seem to have a double standard. You feel it’s ok to claim certain people have said racist things when they have not and you don’t have any direct quotes where John McCain has said he was a racist, do you?

  • http://www.lidsamy.com/ Lidsamy

    Come on over Kristen, you know you wanna:)

  • lana ward

    People like Toure’ are DANGEROUS. Repeat a lie over and over-people believe it, especially the not so bright!! Most Dems work this way!!

  • Kevin McAuley

    Ok, i know this is immature and sophomoric but have you noticed how all the right wing female talking heads are hot, and the lefties all look like they got beat with the ugly club? I mean compare Powers to Maddow. Compare the girl on the view to Behar. Is it possible that being a lefty makes you physically ugly too?

  • W Randall

    Damn, I didn’t even know she was black for the longest time, I didn’t care either.

    Lying is lying, deceiving is deceiving stupidity is stupidity, ignorance is ignorance, naive is naive, there are no color boundary’s for that.