White House opening bid in fiscal cliff negotiations includes $1.6 trillion in taxes, $50 billion in stimulus

Hmm… why would anyone freak out over the idea of a few more tens of billions thrown away in the name of another “stimulus” package, seeing how well the previous trillions did? Oh, and did we mention the plan also eliminates the debt ceiling?

The point Politico’s Marty Kady is making is simple enough; both Congress and the White House are offering up their opening bids in what will be an ongoing negotiation.

Yeah, but that sticker price! That’s like being told the dealership wants $41,000 for a Chevy Volt. It’s also a clear sign that the White House is sticking to its plan to tax and spend the nation into prosperity … or the ground.

Yes, it did.

  • Chris Mears

    Think we should just let them jump

    • SpinMeNot

      Better now than later … We need “Martin Riggs” on the roof with the jumper.

      Lets get this show on the road.

      • conservativechick

        Might FORCE some spending cuts and if it shuts down DC, even better!

    • stuckinIL4now

      Let’s PUSH ’em.

  • Ranadicus

    Obama is going to do whatever Obama wants to do as Obama has always done, laws, rules and logic be damned. The only reason Republicans are being included in the “negotiations” at all is so they can be blamed later.

    • Tony0920

      not to sound racist or anything but remember, we need a ‘token’ other party. under Obama, we are it.

  • Joseph Phillips

    Holy sh*t! We’re broke and this clown wants to spend more?! This is just plain ol’ stupid. Who voted for this moron?

    • louisiana_mom

      People with Obamaphones, illegals, mental patients, women who can’t find the drug store, college graduates who can’t find a job in Hispanic transgendered women’s study, the dead (or zombies), dogs, cats, snakes,

  • http://www.politisite.com/ Albert N. Milliron

    Bluff call…. I mean what ELSE could we lose?

  • Grumpa Grumpus

    This is a flashback to last year’s debt ceiling “negotiations”.

    There we were treated to a fine show: Speaker Bone-Ya squealed exactly the same GOP stock phrase: ‘they don’t want this to go anywhere’.

    The Squeaker then jumped up & down in mock indignation– swearing to never give up & never give in–

    Our Mighty Republican Leader, after less than two weeks of allowing conservatives to discharge their emotional strength by investing it in support of this walking jello-mold sashay-ed up to the edge and accepted an empty papersack of obviously outlandish promises made by a known liar who shows all the diagnostic indicators of being a sociopath.

    He then sends his emissaries out to spread the word, so it can be whimpered in chorus that it was “…the best deal we could expect to get! We should be happy with it!”

    Yes. Happy that, not only didn’t we gain ground towards fiscal solvency— we actually lost ground!

    And that’s what we should be content with!

    Forgive me if I’m less than enthusiastic.

  • Jack Deth

    If the Republicans have any balls or brains, they would return to their home towns for some ‘campaigning’ and not return until mid January. Keeping as many of their fingerprints off of this Fuster Cluck as possible. While voting ‘Present’ afterwards.

    Let Obama and the Dems OWN this one!

    • Kate

      Yep. It’s obvious that they are trying to get the blame placed on the GOP, so that they can take back the House in 2014 while maintaining the Senate. If the Democrats control the last two years of Barry’s lame-duck term, God help us.

      I agree- back off and let Obama and Harry Reid take the fall.

  • Lin Jarvis

    Attention congress, you can’t negotiate with a tyrant. Let’t put on the crash helmets and go over. The Dems own this. Let them face it. # stop spending.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZR4D5E2WTOI4MSKK7AJS6EG3OA Everybodys All American

    Gotta walk away. Obama and Geithner are clowns. Good negotiators always walk first.

  • stuckinIL4now

    Walk away from this insanity. Let the chaos ensue.

  • Rick Stones

    The stimulus money was spent on his ongoing, never-ending campaign. He “recycled” stumulus money to his bundlers who donated the majority of it back to his campaign, and pocketed the rest. Half a billon wasted on Solyndra… Pfffft! Chump change. The real tragedy was that Obama wrote himself a check for $800 billion of your tax money, and used the vast majority of it to get himself reelected.

    • Garth Haycock

      So very true. Obama’s corruption knows no end.

  • Teresa Davis McCormick

    I just love this Kady guy at the top. Get’s called on lying and says “larger point is:” Never mind the fact the guy just freaking lied, now he’s telling the truth. So we should believe him now. Why do these morons have a job again?

  • Herman LaClair

    at the bottom of this “fiscal cliff” is everything any respectable democrat could want: higher taxes on everybody and a de-funded military…win/win!!!/sarc

  • http://twitter.com/TheAngieNC2 Angie (D)

    Since this “offer” from Obama administration proves that all serious discussions are over, the GOP counter should be a request for Obama’s immediate resignation.

  • Linda Ponzo

    We need to go over the cliff, let the government shut down and let the chaos happen. Those of us with foresight will get by. I’m glad I live no where near a large city.

  • nc

    To the GOP: Do the Dionne Warwick, and “Walk On By.”

    We’re all going over the fiscal cliff AND you’ll be blamed for it anyway. All you can do it run down to the bottom of the ravine and try to pick up the pieces. God help us all.

  • Adela Wagner

    If we keep giving them a soft place to fall, they will never feel the pain of their stupidity. VOTE anyone OUT in 2014 that’s up, if they cave to this crap.

  • Garth Haycock

    The only counter-offer that the GOP should make is to tell Obama to have carnal relations with himself.

  • DorothyGrissom

    Now that the big “O” has been re-elected we’re somehow SURPRISED he hasn’t miraculously changed his political philosophy? I don’t know who’s dumber…BHO or those who voted for him.

  • Terry

    Obama’s leaving on a +$4Mil taxpayer funded vacation on 12/17, for 20 days. Not returning until after the deadline for fiscal cliff. Repubs need to walk away, or offer an alternative like: In addition to keeping the Bush Tax Rates and cancelling DOD portion of the sequester: 1) Immediately eliminate all Federal pensions and do away with Fed Gov’t special health insurance and put them in with the rest of us in Social Security/Medicare; 2) Immediate Pay CUTS and wage freeze x 2 years (like the rest of us) across the board for all members in Congress and staff at the the White House; 3) Reduce Michelle’s staff to only 1 person [1 person is a gift, no one elected her]; 4) Headcount reduction by firing all the Czars; 5) Immediately eliminate subsidies for ‘green’ energy programs and the Volt; AND 6) Immediately defund and toss out all regulations previously made by EPA, DOE and DOL.

  • Lin Jarvis

    Stop spending my 2K.#stop spending.

  • AMERICAN Kafir™(KAdams)

    If the White House wants to use social media, then flood all their social media accounts with STOP SPENDING. Obviously, calling your own representative doesn’t do anything anymore, just flood their social media accounts with STOP SPENDING. They can’t ignore millions of tweets/facebook postings or clever instagram(or whatever) images of people communicating the simple message of STOP SPENDING.

    Or, to get message the across more firmly: STOP THE FUCKING SPENDING!

    Here, I started it off:

    STOP THE FUCKING SPENDING! @whitehouse @barackobama Just STOP THE FUCKING SPENDING!!!! #tcot

    Oh look, and my reply to Boehner, for some press conference:

  • Joe W.

    Just walk away from it all and let the muzzie from Kenya finish the job of destroying the greatest nation the world has ever known. When the dust settles, the survivors, (assuming there are any), can attempt to organize a new country or two.