Eric Boehlert: Where are the consequences for conservative pundits who got it wrong?

For the sake of argument, let’s agree with Media Matters’ Eric Boehlert for the moment that Peggy Noonan counts as a conservative pundit, albeit one who claimed that conservatives secretly thanked her for consistently slamming the Romney campaign. If that’s the case, Noonan in retrospect is one of the few who got it right, opining back in mid-September:

What should Mitt Romney do now? He should peer deep into the abyss. He should look straight into the heart of darkness where lies a Republican defeat in a year the Republican presidential candidate almost couldn’t lose. He should imagine what it will mean for the country, for a great political philosophy, conservatism, for his party and, last, for himself. He must look down unblinkingly.

And then he needs to snap out of it, and move.

Nevertheless, Boehlert isn’t happy that Noonan isn’t paying the price for being wrong. Her reward, if you can call it that? Being invited back to “Face the Nation” and “This Week.” The Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald wonders if a self-imposed time-out isn’t in order.

A two-week humility break sounds wonderful. If Barack “I Won” Obama can do it, certainly Peggy Noonan can as well.

We’re not sure what consequences are in order. The networks are free to hire and fire as they please, and some fresh blood might invigorate the debate, much as Tea Party candidates have done for the Republican party. But please, let’s not mistake cheerleading for Obama as serious punditry either. Yes, many conservatives were wrong about Romney’s chances of winning, but the Obama administration has been wrong about, well, just about everything. Will the media step up and cover those consequences during a second Obama term?

  • disqus_aPWjR6t90A

    Is it really “wrong” when the other sided cheated and probably didn’t really win?

    • Hello Jerry (D)

      The MSM doesn’t think so.

    • TonyMontana3

      Obama really won. Stop acting like a baby.

  • nc

    Hey Eric, where are the consequences for those who got Benghazi wrong?

    • Steve_J

      I’d add among other things, what are the consequences for those who got “Fast and Furious” wrong.

      • Elaine

        White House National Securtiy leaks?

      • Elaine

        White House National Securtiy leaks?

  • TonyMontana3

    He’s absolutely right. Dick Morris said Romney will win by a landslide. Ann Coulter said the same thing. George Will predicted Romney will win 321 electorates. Karl Rove’s prediction was around 280 electorates for Romney. Charles Krauthammer was certain that Romney will win. Glenn Beck and Pat Robertson said Romney will win by a landslide. They were all wrong. Consequences? None. Conservatives don’t care if these “experts” are right or wrong. The only thing that matters is that they say what they want to hear.

    Nate Silver was right. But because he predicted Obama win, he was hated by right wingers. They called him a liar, they called him an idiot. They said he’s nothing more than a desperate Obama propagandist. But he was right. He correctly called 50 out of 50 states.

    TAKE THAT MITCHES!!!

    • epobirs

      Yep, the punditry made the dire mistake of overestimating the US electorate’s intelligence, honor, self-respect, and every other virtue that should have produced a landslide. Apparently America gets the leaders it deserves as it continues to circle the drain…

    • Lady_Clare

      Young man, I thought the electorate had drunk the Kool-Aid, so I didn’t think it was very wise for all the conservative pundits to start talking about any win at all, let alone “landslide” wins. But I don’t see a reason to gloat. We all lost. It’s just that some of us know it.

      Here’s a prediction for you: That economic tsunami that one business owner predicted will hit as sure as I’m sitting here. Small businesses will cut back on workers and cut back the remaining workers’ hours. Record numbers of people will be unemployed and underemployed. Some big businesses will move to other countries that are more business-friendly. College grads will simply move back with their parents rather than moving on with their lives. The 1% — including millionaires like Obama and his Hollywood chums — will get their tax advisers to find loopholes so they don’t pay any more than they do right now, just as they’ve always done whenever there’s a tax hike on the rich. The poor will have less incentive to work (I have relatives who are on the dole and have no intention of getting off while the government is so stupidly generous with their money), and the middle class will be squeezed harder than they’ve ever been squeezed before.

      I predict it’s going to be so bad that even Obama worshipers will finally realize that they’re in a lifeboat that their fearless leader is drilling holes in the bottom of to let the water out.

      • Hiraghm

        One short-term problem. Consumer confidence seems to be going through the roof.

        • SpinMeNot

          Gun sales and ignorance?

          I think we may be seeing a lot of spend it rather than save it and pay more in taxes. I’ve been busy upgrading my hand tools the last 6 months or so — wife not happy with me for the amount I’ve been spending. But if i don’t spend it now, I’m just going to get taxed on it more later. I’d rather have the better tools than the taxes.

          I’ve been wondering a bit about this myself, doing my research and fail to find any explanation than my hypothesis above … your observation is a good one — the question is why is it going through the roof? Messing with the numbers? something else?

    • Michael Rice

      Mitches….seriously, what ar you 12?
      THey gave an opinion and were wrong. THis somehow means they should be tarred and feathered?
      Obama PROMISED he would slash unemployment. Obama PROMISED he would cut the defecit. Obama PROMISED he would improve Muslim relations.
      But, als, the real problem is with people who gav eopinions on a race and were wrong.
      Oh and Obama swore Libya was a result of a video. God, grow up!

      • michael s

        I dont recall Pres Obama putting his hand on a bible and swearing Libya was a result of a video. Present your evidence that the swore to what your saying.

        • operanerd1986

          Here’s a link to a transcript of his speech to the UN General Assembly about the Libya terrorist attacks: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-president-obama-delivers-remarks-united-nations-invokes/story?id=17319652&page=3#.ULJbE-Q0V8E.

          The money quote is in the second paragraph on page 3:

          That is what we saw play out the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world. I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity. It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well – for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that has welcomed people of every race and religion.

      • michael s

        I dont recall Pres Obama putting his hand on a bible and swearing Libya was a result of a video. Present your evidence that the swore to what your saying.

    • Teresa Davis McCormick

      So what should we do with awful journalists who predicted the future wrong? What about those journalists who knowingly cover up the truth? What punishment would you have them do? All they did was give their opinions on an election but now they are going to have to be punished? Turn off your misguided rage for a second and rely on your brain to slowly come to the reasoning of how stupid this argument is. Media has become a dog and pony show and you’re buying it.

    • Catchance

      “Take that”? Good heavens, grow up. In fact, all of you who voted for Obama should grow up. Eric Boehlert needs to grow up and realize that you don’t “punish” someone for predicting something incorrectly. Actually, if there should be punishment, it should be to the media who has shamelessly promoted and covered up for this feckless president we’re stuck with for at least another 4 years.

      Also, don’t project the hatred you feel for conservatives onto us. We don’t “hate” Nate Silver. I may have contempt for him, but it’s not because of his correctly calling the states… it’s for having inside information and pretending that he called it all on his own. Something a weaselly 7th-grader might do, in fact.

    • operanerd1986

      Nancy Pelosi predicted that Democrats would retake the House of Representatives in 2012. That did not happen. Where are the consequences for her? It goes both ways.

    • Hello Jerry (D)

      Douchebag says what?

  • http://www.talonspoint.wordpress.com/ Talon

    Perhaps if every state protected its elections from fraud the pundits would be correct. This is where they erred unlike myself who warned in 2010 this was coming

  • Steve_J

    A “Senior Fellow” at Media Matters. That’s a resume’ enhancer.

    • http://twitter.com/thetugboatphil TugboatPhil

      Head Janitor is more prestigious.

  • $129448

    How about everything that is wrong since Obama won re-election

  • epobirs

    The consequences? Watching their nation be further destroyed seems to be it.

  • yviemarie88

    And if the election WAS stolen, as I surely believe it was, “wrong” was right? Hmmm? In this bizarro, upside down alternate reality we are forced to live in? Knowing GOP won while taking it on the chin from the leftie losers is just sickening… WTH, don’t get me started…

    • TonyMontana3

      But it wasn’t stolen. Don’t be a sore loser.

  • stuckinIL4now

    Where are the consequences for the libturd slimestreamers with their hating on the right and lying about Romney and Ryan? What about their BIG failure to vet Obamuh from 2008 through 2012? Covering up Solyndra et. al, Fast&Furious, ACORN, voter fraud, the corruption & intimidation in passing ObamaScare? Misreporting on Benghazi when not ignoring it? FEMA Sandy aftermath debacle? Covering any crazy-a$$ thing Harry Reidiculous or Debbie WisherFaceShutz say and presenting any of it as rational? FLOTUS school food reform failures? FirstFam vacations, elaborate WH parties, POTUS goldbricking, golfing and campaigning on the taxpayer dime? The country’s economic disasters? Fawning, drooling, butt-kissing, cheerleading the messiah? I could go on the rest of the weekend …

    • conservativechick

      I can think of plenty more!

    • conservativechick

      I can think of plenty more!

    • TonyMontana3

      Waaaaaah…..waaaaaaaah……

  • JimmyNeutron

    Let’s go back to her September comment about the Romney campaign being a rolling calamity. She was right about that in hindsight. We need to not make this about Obama at this point – we all know he sucks, it is counter-productive to belabor that point. We need to understand what kind of failure WE have wrought – we couldn’t un-elect a guy as incompetent as Obama. That is the problem. The idea that Romney’s ground game sucked so bad, ORCA being a disaster, all the internal polling being obviously crap should seriously concern everyone. Why can’t the R’s run a great campaign since Lee Atwater died? We MUST fix these internal problems and direct the harsh light on our failures as a party rather than sniffing around about how horrible Obama is. Of course he’s horrible – and we are so incompetent in making our case that we lost an election to him! That’s what the focus should be.

    • michelle

      Exactly! This is it people…LISTEN….this is the answer. We must find our lee atwater, the commercials that were just begging to be run were never run. We must fix our party. I wonder if the RNC is working today because you know the DNC is. We lost to the worst president ever…even the left knows he is not up to the job.

      • Hiraghm

        Technically, we didn’t lose to the worst President ever. That would require us to be running against the President, and we don’t have one. Article 2, section 1, clause 5, the President must be a natural born citizen, and as Obama’s father was a British subject, he is not a natural born citizen, although a citizen.

        So, even worse… Romney lost to a non-President.

        • michelle

          Good point.

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    • Hiraghm

      Because the GOP doesn’t believe in its “core principles”, if it ever did. The image of the GOP shouldn’t be an elephant, it should be a mange-riddled dog, backing toward the camera, presenting his butt in shameful submission.

      The GOP establishment got Romney as the candidate because, deep down where they don’t talk about it, they’re ashamed and embarrassed by the principles embraced by the party base (as well as the Founding Fathers).

      Until they adopt the “we’re right and they’re wrong” mindset of the Democrat party, instead of this “coalition building by compromising with the evils of socialism” mindset they’ve embraced at least for 40 or 50 years, they will continue to lose elections.

  • LochGates44

    Sugar Daddy George let his little b word use the computer.

  • TEXANONLY

    again ready for a civil war. bring it you trashy democrats

    • Pater Tempus

      First threat of secession and now a redux of the Civil War?? That didn’t end so well for you people the last time you tried it…..

      • Grumpa Grumpus

        “you people”, huh?

        You certainly are a racist fellow aren’t you.

        Knew it would only take a win for the true to show!

      • Hiraghm

        The U.S. has never had a civil war.
        As petitions for secession have come from every State, I don’t know where the “you people” part is coming from.

      • operanerd1986

        So “you people” is offensive when Ann Romney allegedly but didn’t really say it, but it’s fine for you to use?

        • Hello Jerry (D)

          Exactly.

      • Hello Jerry (D)

        What do you mean… “you people”?

  • $23089169

    Hmmm…once again the left decides to go after a woman on the right even though there are hundreds of male pundits who got it wrong. Tell me again who is leading the war against women?

    • Pater Tempus

      I’ll be sure to relay your sentiments to Susan Rice……

      • $23089169

        You do that! While you are at it, tell her to toughen up. We female professionals who know what TRUE sexism is don’t appreciate how she plays the race and sex card needlessly for political gain. If she’s going to run lies out as the mouthpiece for Obama, she needs to be prepared to take the heat. The real sexists and racists are the people who think a high level woman needs to be protected from professional criticism.

      • mike_in_kosovo

        Let us know when she’s referred to as a ‘house nigga’ like Condoleeza Rice was, you hypocrite.

      • Grandma HeadInjury

        Go ahead. She’ll probably screw up that information too…

      • Grandma HeadInjury

        Go ahead. She’ll probably screw up that information too…

      • Hello Jerry (D)

        Tell her to get a brain while you are at it.

    • michael s

      no sympathy here.

      • Garth Haycock

        Of course you have no sympathy. As a liberal, you are the epitome of a misogynist.

      • Garth Haycock

        Of course you have no sympathy. As a liberal, you are the epitome of a misogynist.

    • michael s

      no sympathy here.

  • GaryTheBrave

    On the John Gibson Radio program Friday it was revealed that even Bubba told Mitt after the election that he would’ve won until Hurricane Sandy hit. All the internal polls showed that. When Christie gave a glowing report of how Obama was helping but wouldn’t even escort Romney nor give thanks for his help, that changed it.

    Maybe the pundits were not wrong but for a twist of fate.

    • Pater Tempus

      LOL….whatever helps you sleep at night. LOSER!!!!

      • operanerd1986

        You won. Get over it.

        • $30423294

          Democrats have no class. You knew that, but I thought I’d remind you just so you didn’t raise your expectations that GaryThePusillanimous would rise to the occasion and behave magnanimously.

          • operanerd1986

            Thank you.

      • GaryTheBrave

        I’m just reporting what I heard. No comment.

    • http://twitter.com/Sincerly_oo Sincerely —

      That just puzzles me. Why in the world would Sandy have helped Obama? Really, what did he do?

      • Alex Furlong

        It gave him an opportunity to look all presidential by donning a leather jacket and touring the post-Sandy destruction. It also allowed Republican Chris Christie to sing his praises, giving Obama a couple news cycles of “See! He can work with Republicans! There’s one with his arm around him now…”

        I also gave the media a really convenient excuse to ignore Romney for a week.

  • Jack Deth

    What everyone seemed to forget is the power of massive numbers of low intelligence, seemingly Pavlovian voters. Who responded to a constant transfusion of buzzwords, catch phrases and a tsunami of negative ads on television news, radio and delivered through their ‘Obama Phones’. While also kept constantly updated on polls and polling places. And acted accordingly on November 6th.

    Let us also not forget the Dem’s, left’s, Union’s and ACORN’s proven propensity and mastery of busing in out of state and undocumented voters and stealing elections. With 141% voter turnout in St. Lucie, Florida and many districts in Philadelphia and elsewhere polling 100% for Obama.

    In other words. The GOP was out manned, outgunned, out maneuvered and out Generaled!

    • BeeKaaay

      And out Marxist-ed. So the RINOpublican party’s solution? GO FURTHER TO THE LEFT!

      The party of stupid.

  • vino veritas

    These liberal hypocrites never applied this same ‘standard’ they have for conservatives & republicans onto themselves when they got “everything” wrong in 2010. The sheer incompetence of media matters drone Boehlert is symptomatic, not only his little agitprop outfit, but of liberalism as a whole. There is nothing they can teach anyone except for how to speed along faster down the road to ruin. For clear undeniable proof of this fact you only need to look at the near apocalyptic state of affairs that California is in to see where they are leading this country. This is the only way liberals and obama have EVER ‘lead’ on anything since they took over. Republicans (certainly conservatives) can NEVER make the mistake of listening to their so-called ‘advice’, unless they want a detailed blueprint on how to destroy themselves.

  • TocksNedlog

    How lucky it is for Eric Boehlert that he’s never been wrong about anything. Oh wait . . .

  • TocksNedlog

    Who knew that the standard for pundits was an ability to accurately prognosticate future events?
    Hey Boehlert! Which horse is gonna win the 3:00 at Santa Anita? I’ll put down a thousand bucks and split the winnings wit’cha.

  • TocksNedlog

    The best part of this post is the tweet from Glenn Greenwald (The Gleens!) calling right-wing pundits “more pompous & self-absorbed than ever.” Pot, meet the very darkest of kettles.

  • michael s

    if eric wants to go after peggy so be it. its so funny that conservatives are crying voter fraud voter supression ballots not being counted,etc. You mocked these same concerns when AG Holder Sharpton Melissa Harris Perry and others were fighting for proper and unchallenged voting. blaming ACORN when o keefe destroyed that agency,with his video. although karma came to him. How many more yrs does he have on his probation? Maybe you should ask him how it feels to ask someone for permission to travel? again pick a candidate that can win his home state,same with a running mate.

  • michael s

    if eric wants to go after peggy so be it. its so funny that conservatives are crying voter fraud voter supression ballots not being counted,etc. You mocked these same concerns when AG Holder Sharpton Melissa Harris Perry and others were fighting for proper and unchallenged voting. blaming ACORN when o keefe destroyed that agency,with his video. although karma came to him. How many more yrs does he have on his probation? Maybe you should ask him how it feels to ask someone for permission to travel? again pick a candidate that can win his home state,same with a running mate.

  • Garth Haycock

    This genius can’t figure out that the consequence of conservative pundits being wrong is that we have to endure 4 more years of the worst President in this county’s history.

  • Garth Haycock

    This genius can’t figure out that the consequence of conservative pundits being wrong is that we have to endure 4 more years of the worst President in this county’s history.

  • http://Twitter.com/jkerrysforehead John Kerry’s Forehead

    Election is over. I have moved on. Now, what about Benghazi? Fast & Furious?

  • tripledotter

    Eric Boehlert’s reply when challenged for being a Left-Wing Hack is to block you. #Toolbag

    • TWG2A

      Glad I got two good ones in before that marxist pig blocks me.

  • TWG2A

    The pundits didn’t know just how far the marxist pigs and the other terrorists at the UN would go to steal the election. Rampant fraud. Where’s the consequences for them LYING, threatening Conservatives and committing TREASON?

  • lillymckim

    Gee how about the media the stinking state run news media taking a few weeks off and taking their heads out of Obama’s butt? Whats your consequence for running a cover up for Obama on 9/11 in Benghazi?

    Romney not only fought Obama & fraud he fought every state run news media outlet ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, & MSNBC!

    Who btw scarcely came up for air before going right back to sticking their heads up Obama’s butt for a pay check.

  • http://twitter.com/Motivatedtweet @UVAFAN

    Eric should be worried about the consequences for the American people with another Obama term. Ok, I’m worried for the 49% who got it right – the remaining takers can fend for themselves and deal w/ the consequences. I have no more sympathy for those out of work and voted Obama anyway.

  • Loretta Ouellette

    Hey Eric, what about you, you get it wrong every time you open your stupid mouth!? What are your consequences?