Layoff bomb detonates; Large corporations join small businesses in announcing mass cuts

Earlier today, Twitchy related some heartbreaking stories of small business owners laying off workers to avoid the economic impact of the Obamacare tax that isn’t a tax. Comedian Jon Lovitz, a small business owner himself, was no barrel of laughs either as his timeline filled with stories of impending downsizing. So, what about those big corporations? Boeing’s defense division announced yesterday it would cut 30 percent of management staff, and the company was not alone, we’re learning.

Just last week, Michelle Malkin warned in her column of “Obama’s Layoff Bomb,” and the headlines over the last two days seem to prove that this ticking time bomb was no dud.

The newly reelected president blew off the traditional post-election press conference on Thursday, but word is he’ll deliver a statement on the economy tomorrow.

  • Frederick

    I for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords.

    • Lord Foggybottom

      Obama should have Rosie O’Donnell teach us how to speak Mandarin.

      • Cyborg0012

        Or at least shave her upper lip.

    • http://IKnowBO.com/ Slam1263

      Well, on the bright side, my 0bama site may make it after all.

      • dontcare4uatall

        is it free. do I get free stuff

        • http://IKnowBO.com/ Slam1263

          Yes, just send $5 in an self-addressed stamped envelope.

    • ked5

      I’d rather have them than bozo – capitalism is showing up in places in china.

      • Zane Henry

        it’s showing up out of absolute necessity. They’re economy is built on our toxic debt and a housing bubble that, when it bursts, will make ours look like tiddly winks.
        they have entire cities that they can’t afford to keep the lights on. Whole cities scheduled to be unlivable before people can even afford to move into them.

  • Dave

    You should look at companies replacing full time employees with contractors to get around Obama Care. Hint: banks

    • my preciousss!!

      then we, that are not of obama, should become our own contractors. ( :

    • ked5

      microsoft has long loved contractors.

    • redheadgrl

      and a lot of fortune 15s

    • http://www.facebook.com/kenna.neel Kenna Neel

      Or hiring Temps that they just layoff in 6 months and then don’t have to provide benefits at all.

    • BobSmith77

      Companies have been doing that regardless for several reasons because a contractor isn’t owed any severance benefits and the company doesn’t have to pay for their unemployment benefits either. Contract employees are just easy disposable assets and that trend has been a long-time in the making especially in departments that finance has largely outsourced including IT.

    • BobSmith77

      Another bot comment.

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        Aw, Bob. Don’t be so hard on yourself.

    • barney59

      It’s a 1099 World now baby…

    • Silenttype78

      Very true.
      Wait until companies start trimming their full time workers down to 25 and filling the other positions with contractors.

    • Silence Dogood

      Microsoft has done it for years to get around some of the costs.

  • Jim Cooper

    I hope he isn’t too tired! I know I’m tired of him! Maybe a game of golf will get the blood flowing!

    • http://www.facebook.com/brett.mcmicken Brett McMicken

      bless his heart! now he knows just how luke skywalker feels

      • TheOriginalDonald

        Barack….I AM YOUR FATHER!-George Soros

  • http://www.facebook.com/rafael.penariosribero Rafael Eduardo Peña-Rios Riber

    now help me here guys:
    libs say that firing people = making more money for ugly 1%
    how does that work? they are firing labor force!
    bonus: selling your business will give you money, yes; but it will run out! so that aint a valid answer

    • http://www.facebook.com/brett.mcmicken Brett McMicken

      what we have to take into account is that the owner’s of the business “didn’t build that”…..so, in essence, it’s the gubmint firing them

    • Lord Foggybottom

      no help. you can’t have a rational discussion with irrational people.

    • ked5

      yeah – lucas loves bozo, but sold lucasfilm so he wouln’t have to pay bozo’s taxes.
      libs are totally disconnected from reality.

      • Zane Henry

        don’t you just love vertical integration? all these people forced to sell businesses to conglomerates that got Obamacare waivers.

    • http://www.facebook.com/diann.gardner Diann Gardner

      and if you dont sell it in 2012, instad of paying 35% capital gains tax you will be paying 55% as of January 1 !

  • VIsforVictory

    Be careful what you ask for.

  • http://twitter.com/Gator_Country Stephen K

    So what’s he going to do, invoke Directive 10-289, then hop on Air Force One to hang with Jay and Bey and get a few rounds of golf in?

  • Keenereader

    Fast forward to 2016. $21T in debt, 2 ratings downgrades, $140T in unfunded liabilities, unemployment 11% but 24% if all are counted, 56 million on food stamps, interest rates at 8%, oil prices $130/bbl, gas at the pump at average $6.50, domestic oil production down, Middle East in flames. Crime up. Moral decay accelerating. Social unrest and violent demonstrations.

    Obama exits with a tax payer funded pension. Hang on for a very rough ride. It ain’t gonna be pretty.

    • http://www.facebook.com/rlee1962 Ronald J. Lee

      This is exactly how I feel.

    • stuart little

      Where does the line for free stuff start? it is poetic justice that most of the very
      same people who voted for Obama will suffer the worst, despite the
      freebies. I love it!! The smart will st!ill game the system.

      • Davis

        Thats the way we have to look at this situation.

      • Bill Gordon

        Good, they deserve it, damn fools.

    • Tonya Tawny Luedtke Mills

      I pray you are wrong!

    • Buck Macklin ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Keenereader, if what you say comes true then there will not be another Democrat elected president for 50 years. Silver lining?

      • http://www.righthook38.com righthook38

        I wouldn’t go that far. The more people we have on welfare, food stamps, etc., the easier it will be to get a Dem elected. All they have to do is tell people Republicans will take away their stuff. Look at Greece…they don’t give a flip…they still want their free stuff.

        • http://twitter.com/hackeysack415 Manfred Moore

          Greece finally seen the light !! They HAD to make cuts and try to reset their economy. People may be ticked over there BUT WE have guns to protect our selves and property.

          • CAM 2

            Yes we do Manfred.

          • Marcy Cook

            Manfred this is very true. The silver lining is the democrats can’t pay for this stuff going forward, when the idiots start losing their things they will turn on the democrats. I would tell the Republicans to just stand back and let the democrats do what they want. The faster we collapse and get this over with the faster we will be able to recover.

        • somethingdifferen

          You’re right! We also have the bigest problem, the Media who lie about the conservitives and hide the truth from the voting, ignorant Libs. Most Libs know virtually nothing about fast and furious, Obamacare or Bengazi. They also know nothing about his many other Bills he has signed in the middle of the night. They don’t even know that Obama spent $6 trillion in less than four years when Bush spent 4.3 trillion in eight years. The Treasonist Media is to blame and they are getting worse. We’re screwed.

      • stepper57

        Theproblem is that it will take the four years to get his sorry a$$ out of office!

        • JSebastian

          Unless he is removed early – by death or impeachment.

          • jsclwal

            But do we really want Joe Biden in charge?????

          • http://www.facebook.com/ruth.brown.52090008 Ruth Brown

            JSebastian** I like the death idea,more than the Impeachment**

          • azzy23

            You people are really stupid, and totally disgusting. I hope your states secede so the rest of us can get some peace and quiet.

          • carsonlauffer

            I hope they do as well so I can join them.

          • http://twitter.com/hackeysack415 Manfred Moore

            What a happy thought !! …… the impeachment I mean…. hee hee

          • Marcy Cook

            Republicans must take over the Senate. Then we can hold this creep off and also impeach him. And if “his people” want to riot over that then let them. This is going to hurt but has to be done.

        • http://www.facebook.com/ruth.brown.52090008 Ruth Brown

          Ron* It might not take 4 years,if the muslim mf is impeached** Ruth Brown

    • http://www.facebook.com/jeffkaufer1 Jeff Kaufer

      i think you’re being overly optimistic

    • Rodger Johnson

      Well said.

    • http://www.facebook.com/diann.gardner Diann Gardner

      I do believe the 51% that are supporting the deadwood 47% will get damn tired of this before 2016. ATLAS will shrugg

      • $22639970

        I’m already preparing to shrug.

      • stepper57

        been buying ammo for a while now…

      • carsonlauffer

        I hope so.

    • http://www.righthook38.com righthook38

      You’re exactly right. Everything is going up, except incomes and jobs. You think flash mobs were bad during Obama’s first term? We’ve only seen the tip of the iceberg. Meanwhile, Michelle Obama will be traveling the world with her 47 staff members, and Obama will continue playing golf and basketball, without a care in the world.

    • Douglas Mael

      For the most part, I too believe you are underestimating the severity of the economic disaster we will see between 2013-2016! Try interest rates well above 15%, with inflation at least at that level, and gasoline at $12/gallon by 2016.

      • Kay Williams

        I read 39% inflation

    • Ken Colditz

      You forgot to add one very important issue with Obama, He’ll declare Martial Law, put forth all the authority from the Executive Orders he signed. He’ll have dictatorial powers. Open up all the Detention Centers to house people, They’ll call them FEMA camps helping people but they wont be. It will be persecution of Christens and who they call enemies of the State.

      • Carolann Stinedurf

        look up FEMA Corps

    • Richard Domenden

      “Obama exits with a tax payer funded pension”. That’s the sad part and there’s nothing we can do about it.

    • http://twitter.com/hackeysack415 Manfred Moore

      Who is that one stupid turd that voted you a thumbs down…… C’MON barack !! Use your real name .

    • Justin Ahlquist

      we are 21t in debt 121T unfunded liabilities right now obama price tag is immediate addition

    • News Reporter

      My family and I already decided we are not buying Christmas presents. Every spare dollar goes to get one AR-15 rifle and one handgun for each member, if we don’t already have them. Can’t get the Israeli IMI 5.56 ammo any more, so will settle for what ever is brass reloadable and cheap. I’m picking up 100 gal propane tanks this weekend. Full tree logs dragged to the backyard before snowfall. Pre-paying the electricity and natural gas bill out to 1-1/2 years in advance. Freeze dried food is too spendy for us. Checking and buying cheap canned veggies & meats with expiration dates on the cans that go to 2014 and longer. We have 1/4 of what we want to be at. I have been warning everyone I know to at least stockpile and rotate food. NONE of them listened. There is no way this government will be able to fix the mess Obama made and stop the anarchy that will happen during a financial collapse; arson on a massive scale, murder, rapes, theft, power outages lasting months. People think Obama is just slowly working toward socialism. No, I really believe it has to do with destroying America as an operational capitalist country while China, Russia and the rest of the dirty players survive intact. They already live in the stone age and in poverty anyway. They don’t care how many of their people starve and freeze to death.

      • Wayne Caviness

        Don’t forget your water purification…..

    • carsonlauffer

      You are way too optimistic.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Pat-Wilson/1569377781 Pat Wilson

    Hopefully. layoffs are all libs/dems who voted obama

    • ked5

      It would be “fair” and we all know how keen libs are about “fairness”.

    • stuart little

      Is there such a thing as political discrimination??

      • redheadgrl

        political affiliation is not a protected class under the Civil Rights Act. Race, religion, nat’l origin, age, sex, familial status, disability, veteran, genetic information.

        • EastValleyConservative

          And neither is stupid, though they keep on trying to get it in there!

        • http://twitter.com/katonly Kathie Harvey

          And the good news is…if you are a conservative, you most likely have a high work ethic which means you are more likely to be the one who keeps your job. Bad news is…you’ll be doing the work of four…good news is that, since three of them were liberals, you’re still doing the same amount of work….bad news is, they are now sitting at home collecting unemployement and watching Jerry Springer while your taxes have gone up because someone has to pay for all those new food stamps…good news is…okay I’m out of good news at this point.

        • RblDiver

          Indeed it isn’t, though I suspect that with this administration, any who tried would get an “unexpected” IRS audit.

      • CAmom760

        Political discrimination? See: media, movies, television, colleges and university staffing

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          All in the other direction, though ==> pro-liberal, anti-conservative.

          If it goes the other way, they cry foul.

    • Terrenceor

      Just think about all the food stamp people and unemployment checks stimulating the economy.

    • Alan Larsen

      If I was a business owner contemplating layoffs I would cruise the company parking lot looking for the Obama/Forward bumper stickers. They would be the first employees to leave the company.

      • whoskiddin

        Had to laugh at this one. :) Thanks :)

      • $22639970

        I have a friend who is using exactly that criteria for her layoff decisions.

    • http://twitter.com/lori451 lori451

      Wishful thinking. The vast majority of them don’t work. They are the 47%. Maybe it was the Independent 2% who actually handed the election to Obama.. They clung to their high ideals and voted Gary Johnson or Jill Stein. They are who I will feel the least sorrow for. They knew Obama was awful. They knew his record and that he would only do more harm and did NOTHING. They threw America under the bus for their own self gratification.

      • Ryan Johnson

        Darn straight I clung to my ideals, and voted for Johnson. I lived in Mass when Romney was governor and he is really no better than Obama. In fact, he has praised Obama on many of the issues that I greatly disapprove of. The NDAA, the re-signing of The Patriot Act, the drone attacks, the bailouts, and the list goes on. Don’t blame the 2 percent when 98 percent just wanted more of the same. Even if you don’t believe in my “more of the same” theory, I find it laughable that you would blame 2 percent of the voters for doing what they believed in rather than the 51 percent who voted for Obama.

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          I respect people that stand up for their ideals, but, frankly, I’m a realist. You have to work within the construct you are in.

          I don’t like using the word “blame,” but if you actively ignored what you knew to be the reality of the situation and chose to “cling” to your ideals knowing what was likely, then you effectively helped Obama win.

          Yes, it’s your choice. But that’s the point –> You knew what would happen and you still chose to do it.

          • Ryan Johnson

            The thing is, I would have been just as distraught if Romney had won as I am that Obama did win. Isn’t that the whole point of a democracy? To vote for what you believe in? I didn’t take a vote from Romney, because I would have never voted for him. I don’t believe he would have done this country any good. That is the same reason I didn’t vote for Obama. Neither of them lost a vote or gained one because of me voting for my beliefs. If I had not been introduced to Gary Johnson, I simply would have chose to not vote.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            Inaction FTW!

          • Ryan Johnson

            What about the inaction of the GOP. Why can they do the work of giving us someone worth voting for. Pretty much all I am reading here is that i should have voted for Romney just so Obama wouldn’t have won. That is a crappy decision to have to make. Also I live in California where no matter who I (or all of the other people who voted outside of the duopoly) voted for, the electoral would have gone to Obama. Also, it appears after the majority of the votes have been tallied that even if all third party voters had thrown their vote at Romney he still would have not won the Electoral College, or the popular vote.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            “But they didn’t do anything, so I’m not gonna!”
            “It doesn’t matter anyway.”

            Those are just silly arguments.

            And, no, that is not why you vote for Romney.

            That is simply the logical argument sent back to those that have the attitude of “both guys suck.”

            Basically, the premise is that O and R both sucked. But you know that O did a bad job. Why would you rehire O if you only think that R would suck, too? You *know* O sucked. You *think* R will suck, but he does have a brain that functions and has been a successful businessman. It makes no logical sense to avoid the choice. By not voting, you effectively default to O.

            Unless you think the “bad” of R will be worse than the “bad” of O, that makes no sense.

            And if you thought that, you should have voted for O, by the same logic.

            These are not arguments of why the majority of people chatting here on Twitchy voted for Romney. It is simply the logical way to explain why not voting and/or voting for 3rd party in this particular race was kind of a cop-out.

          • Ryan Johnson

            Like I said prior, I lived in Massachusetts while Romney was governor. Taxes went up for everyone. Healthcare mandates he set up personally hurt my wallet. Personal freedoms that I cared about were waved away like the Constitution didn’t matter.

            By your statements am I to believe that i should vote for bad to keep bad out of office? So by your logic, I should vote for “less bad” and expect “good” or just “less bad”. If my logic had told me to vote O, I would have, but alas they told me to vote for someone who seemed like an actual good choice, someone who would have done this country justice. But now I know that it is more important to vote bad or worse rather than for the good of the country. That makes so much more sense.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            Again, I understand that you voted for your ideology.

            I just don’t think that was the logical choice given what has happened over the last 4 years and what has already started after this election.

            Romney said Obamacare waivers would be in. Whether you believe him or not, that’s your choice. I choose to believe that deep down, he’s an honest, logical, intelligent man who can see the good and the bad parts of both the system he put in in Massachusetts and the system that is Obamacare. I don’t see him as an unthinking man; therefore, I don’t see him as an unchanging man.

            You can say all you want about flip-flopping on issues… ultimately, I have learned that the people that don’t ever change are MUCH more dangerous than the ones that change through experience and thought.

            Obama was the hard place.
            Romney was not the rock.

          • Ryan Johnson

            I didn’t say anything about flip-flopping. In fact the issues I posted in my first comment in this thread are ones that I strongly feel he needs to flip-flop on. He agreed with, said he would have done the same, and even praised Obama for decisions made that greatly destroy our civil liberties that are given to us by the Constitution. These are the same liberties that when stripped will very much bring us closer to a socialist government that everyone is screaming Obama is going to bring us into. No one cares that Romney supports this, they just care that Obama did it.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            The flip-flopping comment is the point of my argument, not an accusation, geez.

            “…ultimately, I have learned that the people that don’t ever change are MUCH more dangerous than the ones that change through experience and thought.”

            I don’t think Obama will ever change his mind, pretty much about anything. He is too much of a narcissist.

            Romney, on the other hand, is an actual thinking man. Regardless of whether I agree with him on particular issues, I believed and still believe that he would have found the right people to tell him the truth, the WHOLE truth, and then gone from there, on any issue. THAT is why I voted for him.

            And that is why I think you and others made the wrong choice by not voting or by voting for ideology in this very important election.

            If you think that Romney is the rock to Obama’s hard place, so be it. Choosing between the rock and the hard place made you and others avoid or go 3rd party. Fine.

            I still think it was the wrong choice for the country, and if you only decided on your vote based on your personal ideology, then you are just as selfish as the college kids on food stamps that voted for Obama to stay on them.

          • Ryan Johnson

            So basically you are saying that you voted for Romney based on your own personal beliefs on how he would have run this country. That is a respectable thing to do. That is the foundation of how a democracy works.

            You then go on to say that because I voted for Johnson because of my personal beliefs on how he would have run the country I am selfish. The general foundations of democracy do not apply to me because I do not think the same as the majority.

            I will agree that I voted for Johnson using only my own personal ideology. If that is selfish, who’s ideology should I have also included in my decision and why?

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            You’re grasping at straws here. And you are also making assumptions about me and my beliefs. I swear, I need to have a disclaimer on the top of all of my comments. I am not a Republican, not male, not white, not Christian, not rich, not over 40, not anti-gay, not pro-life, and probably not anything else you assumed I was.

            I am giving you the benefit of the doubt in that I am assuming you can see the bigger picture. If I was wrong about that and you don’t see just how bad President Obama is for this country, then I apologize. I won’t assume you have a brain that works.

            In any case, if I had voted based purely on my ideology, I would have voted for a 3rd party candidate. I decided that, since that 3rd party candidate had almost no chance of winning the election, I had to do some further thinking. I didn’t consider anyone else’s ideology in my decision; I just went with the facts. I figured out that there was a very good chance that Obama could be reelected. I knew that was a bad thing. So I watched and followed the campaigns, starting before the primaries, and remained undecided throughout.

            For the good of the country, I cast my ballot for Romney because I trusted him more than Obama and I knew my vote would make MUCH more of a difference being for Romney than it would, ideologically, being for a 3rd party candidate. My respect for Romney as a person is completely separate from my personal political views. And my vote for him was a vote for the country, because I think we all need some sanity back in the White House.

            I guess if you just think I’m plain wrong, you think I’m plain wrong. I can accept that. People think differently. It’s the way it is.

            Sometimes, though, I think people need to do things for the good of all, not just the satisfaction of oneself.

          • Ryan Johnson

            You said something in this response that is what I feel is sadly what is causing the downfall of our government, and the essential demise of our Constitution. “…if I had voted based purely on my ideology, I would have voted for a 3rd party candidate.” I truly believe that way more than half of the country believe this.

            Big media shoves down our throat every election “this is a vital election” “never has an outcome been so important” and so on. I seriously cannot recall an election in my life where these things were not said. It’s a scare tactic, and it works. People will likely vote for someone for the sake of someone else not winning. But they feel that there is only one other choice because they are also told that “a vote for a third party is a vote for the bigger evil”.

            I honestly think that if if people felt that they could safely vote for their ideals Obama would have lost by a landslide.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            While I appreciate the idealism, I still live in reality.

          • Ryan Johnson

            I live in reality too, and it sucks. Idealism will be the only thing that will change it.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            Suddenly, you sound like an Obama supporter.

          • Ryan Johnson

            Obama is the reality that sucks. Romney was a reality that would have sucked. It is all more of the same. So I have no idea what you mean by that.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            “Idealism will be the only thing that will change it.”

            That is what sold “Hope & Change” in 2008.
            That is what people that voted for Obama this time around say is the reason they did it. Well, those that actually try to find a reason say it.

            It’s pretty much the basis for his platform.

            The grand idea of “idealism” fixing everything.
            Idealism is great, but you need a plan that works in reality, too.

          • Ryan Johnson

            Ok, we have been talking about an entirely different set of ideals through our whole conversation. I am not sure how that suddenly changed in your mind. And I strongly believe that the ideals we spoke of earlier would result in a betterment of our country.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            /facepalm

            Having whatever set of ideals you have doesn’t change anything in reality. It’s just in your head. They could be the most perfect of ideals. But they’re not going to change anything staying in your head.

          • Ryan Johnson

            Ok,well I did act on my ideals. I voted for them. This whole conversation started with you saying that me acting on my ideals was the wrong thing to do. That acting on my ideals is a waste because I have to “work within the construct that (I am) in.”

            You facepalm, but your whole message has changed since the beginning of our chat here. So either you have flop-flopped within the confines of the system you stated earlier. As in you have thought this through and we are now in a place of agreement. In which case this was a good conversation and needs to go no further. Or, you just no longer have any idea what you are talking about and we can end this. Because without thought, a debate is pointless. You have yourself a good night.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            This is why Libertarianism will never work in this country.
            You will have to form your own sovereign nation.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            Inaction FTW!

      • TheNomadd

        Lori, that’s what I thought too. But reading on Larry Correia’s blog, when you break it down, the number of folks who voted for Johnson or other candidates was such a small percentage that even if they HAD voted for Romney, Obama still would have won. Tommy Jordan made a good point on his blog: We need to break this 2-party system thing, but we need to start doing it NOW, years in advance. Not start supporting some independent right before an election.And that is a viable option given the number of democrats who are dissatisfied with Obama, but would not vote Republican. They went independent. It stands to reason that by 2016, there’ll be more of them wanting to jump the democrap ship. Especially the blacks, hispanics, and gays who will discover that Obama doesn’t give a rat’s behind about them, and that they were just useful idiots.

        • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

          Funny,,,O supports the Muslims…he said he would “if things got ugly” with regard to war…Well, Muslims execute “gays”??? Afraid this segment of our country has signed their own “death warrant”….??

        • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

          Funny,,,O supports the Muslims…he said he would “if things got ugly” with regard to war…Well, Muslims execute “gays”??? Afraid this segment of our country has signed their own “death warrant”….??

  • http://pinterest.com/j0s1395/ Josephine (D)

    Obamacare won’t hurt jobs, he said. It’s actually good for the people, he said….

    • Pete Futz

      He said it and the dumbass libs believed it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/diann.gardner Diann Gardner

      I cant wait to see the look on the entitled faces in 2014 when Obamacare becomes a reality, and there are fewer doctors, really long lines, and resrictions on who gets treated!!!! LMAO

      • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

        The sooner we FALL as a nation, the better…That is, maybe, perhaps, we pray, those who wanted all the “freebies” will finally realize what suckers they have been. By then, it will be too late….but at least they will have learned the truth. Other countries have rebuilt after devastation……IF we ever get the chance, will we have enough “citizens of work ethic”/good character” to do it???!!!!!

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          I’ve been toying with that idea. *sigh*

          My only concerns are…
          1. If the economy tanks so far we get downgraded a couple more times. That’s gonna be so hard to come back from.
          2. War. Rather, attacks on us brought on by others not respecting our country, mostly due to this weak President. And then, war.

      • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

        The sooner we FALL as a nation, the better…That is, maybe, perhaps, we pray, those who wanted all the “freebies” will finally realize what suckers they have been. By then, it will be too late….but at least they will have learned the truth. Other countries have rebuilt after devastation……IF we ever get the chance, will we have enough “citizens of work ethic”/good character” to do it???!!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/faith.dunn2 Faith Dunn

      yeah rite sure

  • my preciousss!!

    why a prepared speech? afraid of questions from his lapdog media? on the other hand, kings & emperors must maintain a distance from their people, yea? he probably thinks he doesn’t owe anyone his valued presence, since this is his las term. so, he doesn’t need to face the music and sing! (grid your loins America!)

  • Gusta

    Will the laid off women now have hoard tampons and pills again until Obamacare goes into effect?

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.moseley.10 Joe Moseley

    The people collecting money from the government could care less about layoffs..

  • Bob Khan

    “@CharlieKayeCBS @CBSNews >>>OBAMA TO HIRE ROMNEY TO FIX ECONOMY<<<"

    If he does, don't fall for it Mitt! Enjoy some time with your family, you've earned it. Thank you for everything and God bless.

    • James Chandler

      Actually, he would probably do it and not take a salary… He couldn’t turn his back on the situation.

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        You’re probably right. He really *is* just a genuinely decent, good man.

        If he does, my only hope is that Mr. Romney actually gets the credit he deserves.

        (I know this is a pipe dream and that the media will credit Obama with everything good, which will effectively make him a deity, but I can always hope.

        Aw, snap. Those mural painters in the schools already made him one, as Obama is the life-giving sun, after all. http://twitchy.com/2012/11/06/more-illegal-electioneering-obama-mural-reported-at-polling-site-in-dc/ )

      • Elaine Keenan

        Well I hope he w2ould not help Obama. Obama wanted his own mess HE GOT IT DEAL OH WELL

      • GretaN

        But Ovomit is too big a narcissist to have the common sense to hire Romney. That’s assuming he even WANTS to fix it – which he DOESN’T. Cloward & Piven…

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          About 99% of the time I would agree.

          There is this teeny tiny eeny weeny chance that he would do something that “grand,” purely for the narcissistic satisfaction of taking the credit for a genius move (and Mr. Romney’s work) and “saving” the economy, all the while promoting himself as a bipartisan juggernaut that saved America singlehandedly.

  • Shawn Smith

    I wonder how many people getting layed off voted for Obama. I wonder how many of them are receiving a rude awakening.

    (Of course there are some that are so blindly devoted to this guy that they’ll still believe in him, blame the evil capitalists.)

    • Mary Cornwell-Blythe

      yep…..someone I consider a good friend tried to tell me that earlier today…..that the layoffs were because of the big greedy corporations….I pointed out that the MANY defense contracts being cut are causing a massive decrease in demand for what the defense contractors make….with the decrease in demand there was no need for workers to make things…..therefore no need for workers…..she had no response….and that is just one example……….

      • TJCrane_NCC1701

        I saw earlier on a Twitchy (?) thread that some moron blamed the Stock Market crash (probably the lay-offs too) on Greece.
        It’s crazy sh!t ! It’s like showing the morons the hammer that you TELL them you’re going to hit them over the head with and they’re waiting for Obama and Andrea Mitchell to confirm that they’re being hit over the head before they believe it.

        • TJCrane_NCC1701

          On the very strange side, they deride ANY comment about American Exceptionalism whilst claiming to be “exceptional” to their fellow Americans who offer differing views to theirs.

          A conundrum wrapped around a turd that they can 1) Pick up at the “clean” end and 2) Polish nice and shiny.

          Like I said, morons !

      • TOMTREP

        YES, AND IT “TRICKLES DOWN” SO OTHER SUPPLIERS AND BUSINESSES WILL BE AFFECTED AND HAVE MORE LAYOFFS. GUESS TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS WORKS AFTER ALL.

      • Bill Anderson

        This is the kind of stuff they have been brainwashed to believe by this administration. That is how Obama cornered the knuckle-dragging,mouth-breathing, shit-for-brains, dumbass vote.

      • BobSmith77

        We shouldn’t decrease defense spending at all even though it has surged since 9-11 almost 2x and the DOD is arguably the worst gov’t agency at procurement today in terms of cost-control? Hell, even some of the more honest GOP reps who aren’t in the defense industry’s lobbying pockets have blasted defense firms for their constant cost overruns and bloated practices which leave the US taxpayer with a huge bill for a lot less than they should be getting.

    • Antranig Tony Mardiros

      ObamaNation Zombies!!!

    • Soummala Henry

      They will say “it is Bush’s fault” such a joke

    • http://www.facebook.com/diane.sare Diane Casey Sare

      Laid off =food stamps andwelfare…either way Obama works for them

  • chicagoxile

    Someone should ask these companies if they would have made layoff announcements if the election had gone the other way.

    • ked5

      they would have made layoff announcements last week, but bozo threatened them with fines.

      • Tonya Tawny Luedtke Mills

        agreed!

      • sgtbh

        That is a fact. YES, he did. That is what dictators can get away with.

        • Fight4Freedom

          Only if people let them. Does anyone have any guts anymore?

    • DizzyMissL

      Of course not.

    • BobSmith77

      Yeah they would have if you followed 3rd quarter financial results and the pending sequestration cuts which are scheduled for Jan. 1st.

      • Liberty_Jane

        You might be right but there likely would have been call backs. Maybe not all but some. Now? Not so much.

  • Salleyanne

    Just shows you that the 1% gives a flying flip about this country. Selfishness and greed is all they know.

    • Patrick

      Nothing to do about greed, it has to do with making a profit. No company is in business to break even, that is pointless. Just sad that people think people should not operate there business with their families in mind, that is selfish. Only the government can operate with debt not everyday companies.

      • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

        Folks, WHEN did it become a BAD THING to be succesful?????People for centuries have strived to be just that…..Since Obama became president..it’s become WRONG?????? Something’s WRONG with THAT….

    • David R Priest

      People who run businesses do what they have to do to keep the business going. Things are going to get very bad very quick. They may all quit and shut down everything and then you will have no one to loot. The rich don’t have to work but you need them to work to support your evil system. You voted for this. We warned you. You will get what you wanted and we know it is what you deserve.

    • http://www.facebook.com/doubleuc.handy Phillip Caldwell

      I feel sorry for someone as painfully stupid as you.

    • manyears

      So Salleyanne… Are you saying that companies should all operate as a non-profit? In my humble opinion that would not be a business, it would be a hobby.

      • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

        And expensive “welfare”

    • http://twitter.com/Gator_Country Stephen K

      These companies are doing what they have to do in order to survive. If they don’t survive, no one working there will have a job. And this is only the beginning, and you can bet that many of these companies that are laying people off now are only delaying the ultimate day of reckoning, when they will be forced to shut down, permanently.

      We know it’s hard for people like you and your liberal friends who have never worked a day in your lives to understand, but it really is true. And guess what, it’s even going to affect you eventually. Despite what the Democrats would have you believe, someone has to pay for your food stamps and your free birth control pills. Even Obama can’t make that money appear out of thin air.

    • http://www.facebook.com/stephanie.grimwood Stephanie Marie Grimwood

      It is not about selfishness it is about survival. These people have families too they need to eat and have a home. I think it is the other way around.

      • stuart little

        Who would invest their money for no return? Would you invest yours in the bank for free? Wold you work for no return. Your idiocy defies explanation . . .

        • http://www.facebook.com/stephanie.grimwood Stephanie Marie Grimwood

          I was talking about these businesses. Sorry if I did not make that clear. The man was talking about the 1% being selfish. Don’t they have families that need to have food and a bed to sleep in? I did not state my case clearly, no need to call people names.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            Commenting system here on twitchy leaves a bit to be desired. Threaded comments get squiggled around and visually is confusing. You have to mouseover the “reply to…” thingee to see what it is in response to.

            Please keep hands inside vehicle at all times. Enjoy the ride.

    • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/ dmacleo

      do you work for free?
      you should try it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

        My hubby works in the mine..for every DIME he earns..and soon will be OUT of a job…..We aren’t rich, never will be..but we can proudly say that EVERYTHING we have ..we got through holding a JOB!!!

    • stuart little

      Taxing the 1% at 100% will float the beast (government) for 3-4 months, then what?? Tax or confiscate wealth, tax the middle class more? What?? Print money?? What????? Plug your f’in brain back in . . .

    • Liberal Hater

      Let me type slowly since you are a dumb liberal and I want you to understand: businesses are not charities to support you like your big Daddy Obama with his bag of goodies. They do not exist for the purpose of employing people but to make money and provide services or goods. People work there as a mutual benefit. When companies can’t afford those employees, they get rid of them. So take your 1% and shove it up your ass you moron.

    • Scott

      Im sure you do everything for free, right? You shouldn’t have to pay for anything at all, because when you do, that means someone may make money to buy something from someone else and so on. If that cycle stops or breaks then that means people suffer. Hell what am I doing trying to explain something this basic to another libtard.

      • my preciousss!!

        maybe she means the bottom 1% like herself?

    • CLT Engineer

      So you care about the poor people and elderly correct? So it is selfish for a company to make money? Do you realize that the money they make increases the value of the stock… which usually increases the value of the funded pensions people rely on… it is called economics… if you send me your address I will send you a “economics for dummies” book… sheesh..

      • BobSmith77

        Operating cash flow and debt margin drives a stock price? Stick to engineering.

        • CLT Engineer

          No Bob, but the viability of a business and the ability to make a profit leads to whether the investors have faith in the company.. hence the stock price… Stick to trolling and maybe get a job…

    • Concerned

      WOW! REALLY? People who worked hard to build up a business are greedy and the people who do nothing and want everything given to them aren’t? They are the cause of this. I feel sorry for the workers who are getting laid off, that did not support or ask for this. The others fully supported it and asked for it.

    • BobSmith77

      This comment is as dumb and misguided as a bunch in this thread.

  • smorkingapple

    So let me get this right. Mitt Romney types react to Mitt Romney drubbing by laying off the rank and file. They get to keep more of the profits as a result and work the rest to death. Yet somehow this is Obama’s fault, not the greed of the owners and execs running the company.

    Yeah…

    BY the way, those cherry picked companies you mentioned are struggling on their own. RIMM, Groupon, Bristol Meyers etc.

    • Carol G

      Again, the whole “Mitt Romney” types. You can tell that to the people who are not unemployed and you may be next.

    • http://www.facebook.com/stephanie.grimwood Stephanie Marie Grimwood

      Just remember you get what you asked for. You want the 1% to suffer well if they suffer so do we.

    • http://www.houseunseen.com Dwija Borobia

      But that’s how business works. Businesses don’t exist unless they make a profit. To keep profits up, if taxes are increased, they will always lay people off. That’s why increasing taxes on businesses isn’t good for working people. That’s exactly why.

      • stuart little

        Oh come on, libs do not understand how business works. Might as well talk quantum physics.

      • BobSmith77

        This is a ridiculously over-simplistic explanation and not how the c-level views corporate financial performance and makes investments. It greatly depends on the industry and the defense-related cuts you are seeing is because of the scheduled sequestration cuts scheduled for Jan. 1st (which won’t go into place and will be stop-gapped).

    • Belinda Henry

      wahhh wahhhhh you get what you vote for.

    • Fight4Freedom

      So when they struggle, it’s the business owners fault…. has nothing to do with the liberal policies put in place that overwhelm them to the point they have to lay off people and eventually go under. Hmm. But when they MAKE money, hey “they didn’t do that. Someone else helped them get there!” Do I have that right? You liberals have no common sense (or decency) whatsoever. I swore I wasn’t going to bother making any argument anymore because you all need to learn the hard way – if you ever do. But you make me crazy.

    • Franco Tramble

      No dumbass. The owner lays off whoever has an O’Bama sticker on their car. Whatever it takes to save the Co. and most of the jobs.Anyone who knows anything about business knows what’s coming.Libs love Keynesian models. They’re trash because their static.I’m retired at 48 years old. I was poor till I put 5-6 years of good choices together.We all waste our resources when were young . The young smoke,drink,gamble,do drugs,have babies they can’t pay for.Young people don’t know shit.No life experence. Poor that made it to rich will make money no matter who is Pres,Or what the market does.Children voted this fraud back in so he can change their diaper when life gets hard.Well it’s always hard, until you put good choices together.Those who voted him back in have the most to lose, and they will lose.They deserve it. It’s sad that good people who were almost their will suffer with them.In 8 monts you will not be able to find anyone who will admit voteing for him.O’Bama doesn’t need them anymore, he got what he needed from them.And they will loose the most of all.

  • Rick2340

    Wait until 2014 rolls around and companies continue to layoff people AND the companies that don’t start dropping health insurance coverage.

    • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

      Honestly don’t think the country will be standing by then

  • Carol G

    Salleyanne You need to buy a clue. This is exactly what happens and it was told but you libs just say the same old thing over and over………..

    • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

      Maybe Obamanation will provide her with one.

    • Bill Anderson

      Carol G save your breath. Liberals don’t think for themselves. Hell they don’t think for ANYBODY. Hell — THEY DON’T THINK!! They just drink the Kool-Aid and keep spewing the Liberal line. Cheer up, though. Four years from now Liberals will be as hard to find as the dodo. We just have to figure out how to survive till then.

  • sgtbh

    Just too darn bad the layoffs will only affect hard working American workers.
    Obowma voters will not even be affected since they do not have a job.

    It will hurt Obowma supporters in the long run when tax dollars and hence their benefits dry up.

    • http://twitter.com/triplets108 Barbara Fontaine

      That will come faster than you think.

    • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

      They will still find a way to blame Republicans, conservatives, Obama non-supporters, rich people, Fox News, white people, and anyone else they scoop up in their nets along the way.

      Sputtering, blaming, going down in flames.
      Still crying out that it wasn’t their fault.

      • redheadgrl

        you forgot Bush!

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          OH! my bad. I *knew* there was one big one I was forgetting!! lol.

      • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

        And let’s not forget..they’ll still blame GW

      • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

        I am wondering if O will give me a government grant to open a “burka” factory? Or do they all sew their own?

      • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

        I am wondering if O will give me a government grant to open a “burka” factory? Or do they all sew their own?

    • Concerned

      Surprisingly, I think there are a lot of oBama lovers that do have something to loose they were just too worried about the fake ware on women and gays.

      • BobSmith77

        Economy was the number #1 voting issue but yeah a lot of social liberals/moderates (myself included) are creeped out and in some cases repulsed by the evangelicals who drive social policy issues on the right.

        You had in the GOP convention party platform this year that there should be no exceptions for abortion in any cases including the wife of the mother or incest/rape. Yeah that repulses me that we let the 20% of evangelical dopes dictate their minority morality positions to the majority.

        That or the Hyde Amendment which allows employers to withhold contraception from their employees if they deem so.

        I could go on but it pisses me off to know end that we let evangelicals and their fringe positions on a number of social policy issues dominate the GOP party platform plank even when their positions are a clear minority or even fringe position among the overall populace.

        • Concerned

          If you choose to hang on to the words of two people who were not in fact running for president, and choose to wollow in that instead of real issues, you only hurt yourself. You didn’t hurt me. I don’t feel sorry for any of you.

          • BobSmith77

            Hang of the words of two people? Ryan co-sponsored the Hyde Amendment and voted for it this year and Romney waffled on it when asked about it.

            If you don’t think the GOP social platform is largely dominated by religious nuts, I don’t know where you have been the last 10-15 years.

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          so… you voted based on your stance on one issue: abortion.

          is that what you just said?

  • Mark Glenn

    Bad part is, this isn’t the layoff bomb caused by Affordable Health Care (its hard to type that without laughing). These are just layoffs because of the economy. We won’t see the health care related layoffs start until next summer as everyone prepares for 2014.

    • sgtbh

      Yep. Obamacare is still in first gear. Wait until it shifts into overdrive.

      • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

        How many people, with all the high prices of food,utilities,and life in general..can AFFORD $300-$400 for insurance a month?????NOT going to be cheap.Ours has went from employee contibution deduction of $100 to $200 Jan 1st…yep..got CHEAPER just like King Obama said..

        • YeahWeWill

          Mine is going up 7.5% in Jan. I already pay close to $ 800 a month for 2 of us.

    • http://www.facebook.com/stephanie.grimwood Stephanie Marie Grimwood

      Lockeheed Martin will be laying off 120k very shortly. It is just beginning.

      • http://www.facebook.com/diane.y.robins Diane Yeomans Robins

        This was known & to be announced before the election – Lockheed agreed per Obama request to hold off announcing until after election. Wonder if all 120,000 voted for Obama?

        • redheadgrl

          Wonder how much that lawsuit for non-notification Obama said he would cover is going to cost the taxpayers?

          • http://www.facebook.com/saroni.kellogg Saroni Kellogg

            We, the people, are paying all severance packages for those 123,000 people as promised by ceasar o

        • GretaN

          My brother works for them and voted for Ovomit – AGAIN. He may well be one of the 120,000 out of work soon. Poetic justice?

        • iandrews08

          So you are saying obama manipulated unemployment numbers?

    • redheadgrl

      smaller businesses are laying off now to get under 50 employees. Apparently, the employee count when ACA goes into effect will be based on 2013 employee numbers….

      • Silenttype78

        Yes!
        The worst will be between now and this time next year.

  • http://twitter.com/cyndybauers Cynthia Bauers

    Is anyone else sincerely TERRIFIED!?

    • sgtbh

      Yes. Only two days and Iran is taking pot shots at our drones.
      I’m sure all of Israel is terrified beyond belief.

      • J. Cox

        Actually,that happened before the election…MSM just “forgot” to tell everyone(actually,pentagon kept it hush-hush till afterwards)

      • Tonya Tawny Luedtke Mills

        But the Jews voted for him anyway

        • TOMTREP

          THE ISREALIS TOLD THE PEOPLE HERE THAT IF THEY VOTE FOR OBAMA THAT THEY ARE NO LONGER JEWS. OBAMA HAS ALREADY GOTTEN RID OF A BUNCH OF THEM WITHOUT HAVING A SHOT FIRED…

        • Marcy Cook

          Yes 69% voted for him. They have forgotten the Holocaust.

      • Chester White

        No they will protect themselves!

      • http://www.facebook.com/kenna.neel Kenna Neel

        They shot at the drone 4 days BEFORE the election. We are just now being told about it. Way to swing that vote!

        • Wayne Caviness

          False Flag possibly???

      • http://www.facebook.com/diann.gardner Diann Gardner

        that incident happened on Nov 1st we just heard about it today

        • Beeta

          Obama had many thing hidden. He pays the media to not report negative things from the whitehouse.. This was reported before the electon by a woman that had been a reporter at one of the liberal networks. She said that Eric Holder hat told them not to report anything negative about his people the black people.. Have you noticed anything in the news in a very long time about the blacks… ??? You are not hearing the News out of the whitehouse or on obama on these liberal media either..cnn, abc, cbs, msnbc,etc… According to this person the whitehouse pays them millions to keep quite.. so this is why you did not hear about this.. There was to be big lay off before the election but Obama threatened them and forced them to wait till after the election.. Boeing was one of those that has come out now reporting the layoffs… He paid some of them to no do lay offs tilll after the electon..

          • TexasHawk

            Yes, they offered to pay Boeing’s legal fees because they are required by law to give 60 days notice and they could not do that if they waited until after the election.

          • TexasHawk

            Yes, they offered to pay Boeing’s legal fees because they are required by law to give 60 days notice and they could not do that if they waited until after the election.

          • BigR2

            TRUTH

      • David Johnson

        No they did that a week ago and it was 16 miles off there shore (international waters/airspace!!} but it was top secret last week so it could’ent released it to the news then!

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          The mission was classified. The flight, non stealth and over international waters, was not something they could really deny happened, meaning the fact of the flight.

          They could have announced it happened while saying the reason for the mission was classified, which is pretty much what they did today.

      • BobSmith77

        Because a war with Iran will do wonders for the US and global economy especially if the Iranian decide to attack Saudi and Gulf States oil and natural gas assets.

        • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

          Obama figures he can “talk them out of it”..let’s not forget his remark to the president of russia ..”that he can be more “flexable’ after the election”

          • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

            We’re doomed

          • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

            Don’t forget that Iran has said they’ve got missles that can reach the west coast……may be true..may be not……wow think about it..the LIBERAL’S will be pissed if their vacation homes are blown up..LOL

          • BobSmith77

            This is pure freaking nonsense. They don’t possess ICBM delivery capability. Where do you even get this nonsense from?

          • Kay Williams

            It was on Fox News

          • BobSmith77

            Faux News. Garbage news outlet and I bet you 10:1 that it was on a ‘News Variety’ show like Hannity not an actual Fox News show because that is how they get around when their hacks say completely untrue nonsense.

            http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/11/pentagon-iran-improving-its-missile-capabilities/

            Even if you read the annual Pentagon assessment of Iranian capabilities they acknowledge that even by 2015 the only way Iran acquires this capability means that the Russians or Chinese assist them (a major foreign power). That’s just scaremongering to keep the DOD dollars flowing. Iran is nowhere near developing a missile capable of hitting the US and I would bet money they don’t even by 2020.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000737887561 Patricia Parke

            Bob, don’t forget that the CIA and the Pentagon were asking for bigger budgets and warning Congress about the might of the USSR right up until the USSR…imploded and they didn’t see it coming.

          • BobSmith77

            Its never enough. DOD hasn’t conducted a full audit in over 30 years and there really is no complete record of how much the Defense Dept spends every year. Certainly nothing that would meat the scrutiny of Sarbannes-Oxley. Its a black hole that got a lot bigger after 9-11 and has its tenancles all over the budget (e.g., over half of the Dept of Energy budget is used to maintain, store, and test our nuclear arsenal).

          • britain

            HAHA, you have no damn idea what you’re even talking about. Every penny is accounted for you moron. It’s one of the only government entities that actually does so.

          • BobSmith77

            This is a flat out lie. The DOD hasn’t passed an audit since the 90s:

            http://truth-out.org/news/item/3614:department-of-defenses-unending-nightmare-pass-an-audit-by-2017

          • http://www.facebook.com/russell.hoffman.79 Russell Hoffman

            how about the fed, if you want to audit somebody.

          • Cav16

            So Bob you seem to be a know it all what is the answer?

          • BobSmith77

            More pressure. McCain and some in the Senate have made recommendations that have gone nowhere. Changing Buck McKeon as head of the House Armed Services Committee for starters is another. Never met a weapons system he would turn down.

          • wylrae

            I will say it again, trying to get into a rational discussion with Obots is as futile as trying to pick up a turd by its clean end.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            nice…. visual…. (blech)

          • J. Cox

            Sorry Bob,but you are both right and wrong.They do not have the capability yet,but they do have access to Russian and Chinese missile tech.They are currently working out the kinks to their intermed. missile guidance system that can reach eastern Europe.You also have to remember that a majority of their scientist were educated and trained in the US or EU.They are not working from the stoneage forward.It may take them 10 years,but is that something we should even consider waiting on?

          • Wayne Caviness

            Maybe we should leave them them alone as well as the other countries we invade. Why give them a reason?

          • BobSmith77

            So we should heavily bomb a sovereign nation based upon what they might do in 5-10 years? Your nuts.

          • J. Cox

            No…lets let them nuke Israel,then sneak a nuke into L.A…..then do something.That always works best right?

          • BobSmith77

            If they nuke Israel, there won’t be anything left in Iran. Israel has at least 200 nukes.

          • devil_wheels

            No. It’s possible to act on what they are doing now. It’s no secret that they are trying to increase their military capability.

            It’s irrelevant if Iran is a sovereign nation or not.

          • britain

            Yeah give the Nazis like Bob a shot.

          • BobSmith77

            I’m a Nazi because I don’t believe in invading and attacking countries without a provocation?

          • http://www.youarestupidif.com Nate Tanguay

            Why did you mention his nuts at the end of your statement? Are you fixated on that part of the male anatomy? Or, maybe you meant to say that he is nuts, i.e., crazy. Then the proper word usage would be you’re nuts. You’re is a contraction of “you are”. Based on your post every educated person who reads it knows that you’re an idiot.

          • britain

            So this jackass posts CNN as an alternative LMAO! What a putz.

          • BobSmith77

            They sourced the Annual Intelligence Report and review directly from the gov’t that is done on an annual basis. Another non-point.

          • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

            You must have some really, really good hashish!

          • caneman11

            Hey knucklehead, 500 former Generals and Admirals supported Romney and only 4 supported Obama. Why do you think that is?

          • caneman11

            Hey knucklehead, 500 former Generals and Admirals supported Romney and only 4 supported Obama. Why do you think that is?

          • jsteele98

            So why do they need a mass of missiles capable of hitting us? One weapon smuggled across the highly secure Mexican border (with enough money paid to certain people to look the other way) and emplaced in one of those gillions of abandoned building in New York
            followed by a phone call to Obama and the US backs down instantly.

          • BobSmith77

            Again why would the Iranians do this? We would be enable the plutonium fingerprint of the blast and retaliate.

          • wylrae

            Hell Bob, who knows why the Iranians would do anything. It has been quite obvious that they don’t give a damn about life, even their own.

          • BobSmith77

            That’s not necessarily. Certain Iranians leaders (not the ones who hold ultimate power) have made bellicose rhetoric they have actually been tamer the last 12 months or so as the US has started to tighten the economic noose. Everybody is focused on the sanction but the real issue has been freezing the Iranians out of world financial institutions and pressure from the Gulf states to close backdoor Islamic ones too. It is creating huge issues with inflation there.

            Iranians are certainly not a regime that is we should approach lightly but the prospect of air strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities just as too little upside at this point from a US foreign policy perspective. It won’t enable regime change and almost certainly gives the Iranian leadership more support at home. Air strikes time and time only embolden a population in support of their leaders. Happened in every country in WW2 where there were bombings in civilian areas. Ditto the same in the Korean war and Vietnam. Air power alone can not break an enemy’s will and almost always has the opposite effect intended. Only boots on the ground will do that and it would be a very challenging endeavor for the US.

          • britain

            How dumb are you? You do know the only atomic bombs ever dropped on human beings was done with a prop plane don’t you or are you too stupid to have figured that out? Where the hell did you get this crap that you need a missle to deliver a nuclear weapon, you can do it with a cropduster.

          • BobSmith77

            A prop plane could take off from Iran and drop a nuclear weapon on US territory? Is that what you are seriously suggesting? I hope you don’t share these comments with anyone else because they will think you are an absolute moron.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            9/11

          • BobSmith77

            Your comparing 9-11 (domestic flights being high-jacked and used to collide with buildings) to the idea that a prop plane originating from Iran possesses the same kind of danger? Ugh. If you wanted to make a realistic suggestion, it would be that a ‘dirty-bomb’ would be hidden in a cargo slip and detonated along side conventional explosives contaminating the local area with local of low-level radiation and fallout material. RAND looked at this and the effect of a dirty bomb going off in Long Beach harbor. Effects were quite dramatic and terrible. Still don’t change the fact that posts by Britain/yahneverknow was incredibly foolish and stupid.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            Oh, sorry. I guess I have to explain stuff so you don’t misunderstand.

            Perhaps you remember that 9/11 involved people that learned how to fly planes in the U.S.?

          • Everette Fowler

            Okay, let me interrupt a moment..Ahmadinejad believes it’s his destiny to bring about or usher in mohammad’s return and set up a caliphate …he leaves office in June…hmmm, now if you believe he is close to having a bomb ready as I do, I don’t think he will waste his time and energy to worry with the U.S. …. he probably won’t even test it first, that would tip off everyone around the globe. He will just test it in TelAviv and or Jerusalem. Sit back and watch havoc ensue

          • BobSmith77

            Yeah and he doesn’t control the military nor is in ultimately in charge in Iran. Next.

          • BobSmith77

            Yeah because 9-11 has much in common with a prop plane departing Iran to deliver a nuclear payload to the US

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            *sigh* I’ll use small words, step by step.

            atomic bomb = small
            fits in small plane
            9/11 plan -> they learned to fly here
            they learned to fly small planes
            small planes are small
            it’s easier to hide them
            9/11 plan + small planes + bombs = their success

            This is made even worse with more easily created dirty bombs that you mention in your first reply to this same comment as it reduces the timeline and hard-to-find materials necessary.

            Honestly, if you’re just arguing to argue, why bother coming here? You’re just going in circles, trying to push this agenda of yours. You’re probably not going to convince anyone to take you seriously if you’re using CNN as your “reliable” news source.

          • BobSmith77

            Those weren’t small planes and the only country to ever build a ‘suitcase’ bomb was the Russians. Why do you honestly think the Iranians would have any interest in a first-strike (and only strike on the US)? Plutonium in a nuclear weapon has a fingerprint and the US could almost certainly identify if we are hit by an Iranian bomb since the material would either be American (we built Beshehr initially in ’57) or Russian. It would be suicide for them.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RYBYVBRDNZKXL3BESHOZULLQRA Jennifer

            But muslims like suicide bombmer!!

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            I guess the small words didn’t help you understand.
            Oh well. I give up.

          • BobSmith77

            Because you make making and comparing things that aren’t remotely comparable. 9-11 is not the same as a WMD and the threat of a state-actor to the US. That or you either state things that if you talked to someone in a security clearance position in the US they would just dismiss you as a ranting idiot.

          • thegreatgonzo

            Speaking of morons, why do you think that a nuclear weapon has to be carried by some type of aircraft? Uranium packed in a briefcase or storage container on board a shipping vessel, all these methods are plausible. Homeland Security and the TSA is a joke.

          • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

            Or…it could be brought into the U.S., piece by piece…in travelers’ suitcases and reassembled here.

          • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

            Or…it could be brought into the U.S., piece by piece…in travelers’ suitcases and reassembled here.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000316304065 Michael Arnaud

            Russia will be more than happy to sell it to them.

          • http://www.facebook.com/peter.lewis.73594 Peter Lewis

            Maybe, maybe not. But they do have freighters that can get within 200 miles of our coast without interference, and missiles with much greater range than that which can be launched from a freighter. Remember, they love the idea of martyrdom, all they have to do is get here, they don’t need to survive and return home.

          • TexasHawk

            And a Russian sub was caught in the gulf and had been there for three weeks undetected! And then they were caught right off the east coast right before the election!

          • TexasHawk

            And a Russian sub was caught in the gulf and had been there for three weeks undetected! And then they were caught right off the east coast right before the election!

          • BobSmith77

            You don’t think ships from Iran that are headed to the US West/East coast would be tracked by satellite? A much much bigger issue is that a dirty bomb in a lead-lined shipper trailer is in a neutral vehicle and enters a US commerical port. That’s a legit scenario even if extremely unlikely.

          • TexasHawk

            How do you know? Obama didn’t even know that a small embassy was going to be attacked on 9/11 in a Muslim country with heavy weapons that is anti American because we killed their leader, that had been attacked twice before and that the British Embassy and the Red Cross had pulled out and they had begged for better security….But hindsight is 20/20!

          • TexasHawk

            How do you know? Obama didn’t even know that a small embassy was going to be attacked on 9/11 in a Muslim country with heavy weapons that is anti American because we killed their leader, that had been attacked twice before and that the British Embassy and the Red Cross had pulled out and they had begged for better security….But hindsight is 20/20!

          • http://www.facebook.com/russell.hoffman.79 Russell Hoffman

            they do have long-range missile capabilities, and a containerized launch system that can be set on the deck of a cargo ship in international waters. Do you watch current events at all, Bob?

          • http://twitter.com/hackeysack415 Manfred Moore

            As long as they get Pelosi’s home, I won’t care.

          • CAM 2

            Yes! Can they reach dingy harry’s house too?

          • D Steele

            As long as she’s in it, that is. If we can get Boxer and Feinstein to stay at home too, it’s a hat trick.

          • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

            No problem. Most of the “Hollywood-ites” have other homes in other countries!!!

          • wylrae

            Yeah, but maybe most of them will be at home in their digs in Hollywood if and when a blast occurs; we can only hope (sorry to use that word but it is about the only thing any of us has anymore).

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            He’ll send in Valerie Jarrett to negotiate with Iran.

          • Bill Rhodes

            Jarrett’s Iranian. Great negotiator.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            There is so much more than just her Iranian connection of being born there that we need to be afraid of.

          • BobSmith77

            Don’t pay much attention to what is going on. The US has pretty much been conducting an official full-on covert war on Iran already. We have already used cyberwarfare to attack several key systems including financial ones in Iran, pushed their economy by trying to crush the rial creating hyperinflation and drying up their forex reserves, and encouraged other countries to purchase oil elsewhere even with the ‘sanctions’ in place.

            There is no certainty that Iran is even pursuing a nuclear weapon even if they do it poses no ‘clear and present danger’ to the US. Iran understands that if there is a nuclear U.S. sub either in the eastern Mediterranean or the Arabian Sea with at least 24 high-yield nuclear weapons. Israel possesses even by the most conservative estimates over 200+ nuclear weapons. Going to war with Iran serves no immediate US interest right now on several fronts.

          • wylrae

            Hmmm, we done that stuff? Isn’t that sort of like invading a sovereign nation?

          • BobSmith77

            I never understand how Obama is construed as a ‘soft power’ president. He has dramatically escalated the number of drones in the air (including domestically) and up the level of drone strikes to a level that Bush/Cheney could only dream of. We are basically conducting 4 full convert wars right now in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and Chad along with the conflict in Afghanistan.

            This cr@p isn’t going to end until Americans either have to pay a real price for it in terms of direct economic cost or enough of her sons/daughers come home in boxes or mangled versions of their former selves.

          • leatherneck101

            you sir are a lemming that will go over the cliff with the rest of the lemmings. Good luck with that

          • BobSmith77

            Your a warmonger who I generally despise who advocates endless war which is a financial and political disaster for this country long-term. Another ‘freedom-loving’ patriot who misses the simple irony that we are depriving huge number of people abroad their freedom.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            Benghazi.

          • wylrae

            Yup, 0zer0 has put more drones in the air; helped our ambassador and three other dead Americans in Benghazi didn’t it?

          • BobSmith77

            Operational screw up which is different. Yeah they messed up and guys played for lives but if you believe some of the Internet chatter the reason the ambassador was there was that he was using it as a CIA cover to find and set up arms shipments from Libya (there are huge weapon caches there of small arms left over from Quadafi) to the Syrians via Turkey.

          • terri

            he seem so sure he was going to win can u say conspiracy he knew it was rigged

        • devil_wheels

          Broken window fallacy. War never does wonders for any economy. War is a loss, financially and in lives.

      • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

        Not terrified…READY

        • dc63

          Amen.

      • BobSmith77

        The drone was likely violating Iranian air space not that the US really cares about other nation’s sovereignty or air space either since 9-11. We routinely violate that and eviscerate ‘terrorists’ in half a dozen nations on a daily basis including Somalia, Chad, Pakistan, and Yemen. People wonder why other nations hate us.

        • leatherneck101

          not only are you a lemming your are a moron as well

      • Bill Anderson

        Yes, but Israel at least has the sense not to be terrified very long. I’ll give it six months till Israel bombs the living hell out of Iran.

        • BobSmith77

          If I am an Iranian leader, I hope they bomb and soon. It gives me all the support I need from my civilian population which is incredibly shaky right now, allows me to play the high card internationally and argue for the immediate removal of sanctions, and brings both the Russians (and possibly the Chinese and even the Indians) into a more supportive stance of my position as a victim of Western Zion unprovoked aggression especially when they have the inevitable civilian casualties.

          • devil_wheels

            India will likely not visibly take sides though they will give a few lectures about peace and international cooperation and it will lean towards silent (and as secret as possible) support of Israel and the US.

          • Lew McCloud

            BobSmith77 you have argued every point someone has made with utter stupidity. Have you ever served this great nation of ours other than as a mouth piece for anti americanism? You spew leftist garbage and most likely have never volunteered to help one person other than
            yourself. One day you will have to answer for your actions. God Help you.

          • BobSmith77

            So let me get this straight, it is anti-American to question attacking other countries unprovoked because certain interests in the State and Defense depts really want a shooting war with Iran?

          • BigR2

            Iran considers us “The Great Satan”, remember? Everyone knows the US screwed up YEARS ago in helping overthrow their Elected leader that just wanted to sell some oil for a better rate to the USSR. If Iran would shut its anti Israel yap, and its yap about being the Muslim Spiritual Leader, the whole Middle East would quieten down.
            We will not have a shooting war. We either defend Israels interests or as a Country we will cease to exist. Simple.

          • Lew McCloud

            BobSmith77 you have argued every point someone has made with utter stupidity. Have you ever served this great nation of ours other than as a mouth piece for anti americanism? You spew leftist garbage and most likely have never volunteered to help one person other than
            yourself. One day you will have to answer for your actions. God Help you.

          • BigR2

            If your an Iranian leader, you are target zero for the CIA. Bye!

          • BobSmith77

            Been watching way too much TV

        • TexasHawk

          They want to detonate above Iran to cause an EMP. We will get to see first hand if that theory works like people think it will. Iran will not even know what hit them, but it won’t effect them like a bomb landing in their midst. It will still have catastrophic results.

          • CharlieInIrving

            I wonder if Iran is sufficently advanced that an EMP burst would make all that much difference. EMP won’t take out a homicide bomber or cripple an IED.

          • Gary Black

            Not unless it is detonated by any type of electronic device…

          • TexasHawk

            No but it would be a HUGE setback if their reactor is a melted blob of metal. Plus their tanks and jets will be useless. Unfortunately their citizens will die from the civil fallout.

        • TexasHawk

          They want to detonate above Iran to cause an EMP. We will get to see first hand if that theory works like people think it will. Iran will not even know what hit them, but it won’t effect them like a bomb landing in their midst. It will still have catastrophic results.

        • CAM 2

          and i’ll volunteer to fight for them.

        • Marcy Cook

          I hope so. Because Valerie Jarrett was in secret talks with Iran…and you can just imagine how what that was about. I say blow Iran off the map and let’s get it over with.

      • BobSmith77

        If the Israelis want to bomb Iran, let them but the US should say out. US accomplishes NOTHING from a strategic or political standpoint by joining the Israelis. Besides the very real debate about whether Iran is trying to actually build a nuclear bomb, they don’t have enough fissile material or possess the more difficult part of creating a miniaturized nuclear warhead to place on a delivery vehicle. Even if the US joins in the air strikes, it sets the Iranians back a few years all the while strengthening the position of the Iranian hard-liners with the Iranian people and giving the Iranians the upper-hand from the international perspective. Only way to get regime change in Iran is significant US boots on the ground in Iran and in that regard the US will be herself since NATO won’t participate.

        • Nail_31

          BS flag Bob, remember the Chinese nuclear physicist that stole plans for artillery and cruise missile warheads under bill clinton? The Chinese got the plans and they will sell them. Don’t be nieve.

          • BobSmith77

            So what? What immediate danger does that pose to the US and the only way you get regime change in Iran is by putting massive US military boots on the ground in Iran for a prolonged period.

        • CAM 2

          And you know they don’t have enough fissile material…how?

          • BobSmith77

            Even the Israelis at their recent UN presentation said they didnt. US intelligence estimates all have stated the same point.

          • wylrae

            And I guess US intelligence estimates that an anti-Islamic video would cause spontaneous revolts in Benghazi resulting in the deaths of four Americans? It is obvious from the past that our US intelligence is not all knowing and does make mistakes on occasion.

          • BobSmith77

            Sure and this is the point that Obama likely lied on for weeks during the campaign not the BS story that they were denied help. State Dept offices in Tripoli did send resources along with the Libyan gov’t there. Air power wasn’t used because it would have nuts to start dropping bombs or using heavy caliber machine guns from the gun when we didn’t know exactly where the people were in the US embassy compound.

            Go to the WSJ for the timeline.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            So, in essence you are admitting that you willfully did not vote for R or O because you think they both suck, knowing that O, a liar in the office of the President, could be reelected?

        • wylrae

          “US accomplishes NOTHING from a strategic or political standpoint…”
          Other than showing our supposedly other allies and our enemies that we in fact do stand by our staunchest allies.

          • BobSmith77

            You do realize that by engaging in a preemptive strike on Iran at this point the US/Israel will almost be entirely on their own besides back door support through the Saudis and the Gulf States. Will lose Western Europe backing (Britain denied US permission recently use bases in Cpyrus and Diego Garcia) and most other neutral countries which voted to support the sanctions.

      • Elaine Langford

        Israel congratulates President Obama on his successful re-election……

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          (edited to add: this reply was for the people that will think they really meant it.)

          Because they had to say that out loud. Come on…
          One of the big mainstream media articles said Israel expressed “happiness” over the reelection. Uh… Did they forget the straw poll of Israelis that showed them voting in Romney at something ridiculous like 90%?

          (don’t know the exact number and don’t feel like looking it up, sorry.)

      • lainer51

        but he got 69% of jewish vote — go figure

        • wylrae

          Please be precise; of the jewish vote in the U.S., not of the Jewish vote where our supposed ally is.

      • David

        I guarantee you if Romney had won, they wouldn’t be taking shots at our drones…they know Obama is gutless and lets his own people die

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          pretty much.

      • Wolfspirit

        So is Japan.

      • Okieflyover

        Did we react yet or is penetration still waiting for perfect intelligence and ground conditions. ????

      • oldvlc

        Actually I don’t blame them. Those Obama drones kill without any declaration of war. Don’t get me wrong I am not for firing upon US assets, but if we were the target of drones we would take them out, right?

      • $2942628

        Israel will release all of its nuclear weapons on Iran and Saudi Arabia if it is in danger of being over run. No doubt they are on their own. But you can count on them to do what is necessary to defend themselves.

    • stuart little

      I am terrified because I believe the desired end point is fiscal bankruptcy and chaos, resulting in a fascist Marxist takeover. EO’s already put in place. Sounds like conspiracy theories but no one can be this stupid about basic economics; it has to be deliberate.

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        *ding* *ding* *ding* We have a winner.

        (Ask someone you know who grew up in/near communist propaganda territory how they felt when they first saw the Obama ads with those children singing. It’s terrifying to them.)

        • natastroud

          I am one of them. Was born and raised in soviet union. Persona cult and indoctrination of our youth- been there done that, escaped to America in hope to find a freedom. Nope! Have to deal with that again.

          • $2942628

            Sometimes you just can’t friggen win . . . go watch a movie called “Father Goose . . .” It will cheer you up. This act has been going on for a long time.

          • Lucille rothstein

            go back!

          • mwill

            asshat

          • BlueGood

            The Left is getting a taste of Reality…NOBODY can employ ANYBODY under such extreme taxation, regulation and intimidation.

            On a good note, CANADA is accepting BRAINS, BUSINESS and GOOD CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE to come and enjoy LIFE in the GREAT WHITE NORTH!

            Federal Business tax of 15%

            I am truly sorry America…you guys and gals know I was SO wanting a Romney/Ryan Gov’t for you!

          • bluewaternavy

            I just retired, can I come up?

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Actually no we’re not. While we have decent business policies we have LOTS of other taxes and laws against hate speech, socialized medicine, gay marriage and soon Official Statehood/Provincial status for the First Nations. We welcome all comers but we’re a democracy 1rst up here and not Capitalists.

          • BlueGood

            Goof

          • Karen Foster

            REALLY? They paid MORE taxes under Reagan. What a bunch of crybabies. Maybe if these people didn’t give themselves over 700% raises in the last 40 years while only giving the workers 5% (what it is when you calculate the loss in retirement and healthcare) this wouldn’t have happened. This is how it goes when you limit the amount of money to the only people who will actually spend it and spur economic growth.

            Watching you all try to defend blatant greed is really disgusting. I guess shared sacrifice is only something that you all buy into when it applies to those overpaid public workers.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mel.fox.108 Mel Fox

            Of all the checks iI have cashed. I have never worked for a poor person!

          • Riley

            The really sick thing is that greed doesn’t apply just to “rich people.” there are really greedy middle class and lower class folks, too. I see liberals who have 2 cars who won’t share one with family members much less anyone else. They have a sense of entitlement as much as anyone does. Greed isn’t something outside of us, it’s inside and it’s in everyone.

          • Elaine

            http://www.dailyjobcuts.com/#.UJwVDQHUOEh.facebook Read it and weep. THIS is what YOU voted for. You think business owners WANT this? You’re NUTS! I don’t want to shut down our small business but we can’t keep working our a$$es off and NOT make a profit?

          • Bigfoot Steve

            You’re the one who thinks you have a claim to someone elses money, so who’s the greedy ones again?

          • Theresa

            Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Why should anyone, party affiliation aside, share what they worked for? obama is all about spreading the wealth. Why should I go back into business to be taxed out the wazoo? I just sold my business and I’m thankful I got out when I did. There is NO incentive for me to start another business which employs anyone. Our previous business employed 200.

          • commonsensepaulie

            Under Reagan their taxes went down dramatically which resulted increased revenue to the government and record hiring. These are the facts.

          • Ken Alan Draper

            but the reagan economy was booming, while the obama economy sputters along. there’s a big difference.

          • EvilDr

            Kenneth Draper: When Ronald Reagan took over the leadership of the United States in 1981, he inherited an economy that was in terrible shape—the worst American economy, in fact, since the Great Depression of the 1930s.

            http://www.shmoop.com/reagan-era/economy.html

          • Riley

            Except that some people think that Harper is a “conservative dick.” And don’t come to Quebec whatever you do because you get 15% tax here, a doctor shortage, crumbling infrastructure, and corruption GALORE. Did I forget the language police?

          • http://www.facebook.com/betsy.sale Betsy Sale

            seriously thinking about moving to Canada…. before it’s too late!!!

          • 1954don

            You do know they have very high tax rates? Much higher then ours. Plus they have true Socialized health care. Heck I’ll rent a bus and drive all that want to go.

          • Ken Alan Draper

            as Yogi Barra once said: “It ain’t over till it’s over” don’t underestimate the American people. many have in the past. perhaps we needed to hit rock bottom to clean out the infection of socialism so that constitutional government can rise again. only time will tell.

          • Teddi

            It’s over. The battle was won by the left. That is the reality.

            Approx. 1/3 of the population voted. Of that group, aprrox. 1/2 of the voters re-elected Obama. This means 1/6 of the population actively sided with big government (and Obama’s socialist ideaology) for a reason…

            Local, State and Federal public sector employees (and those immediately impacted by those employees remaining employed) equal a number greater than 1/6 of the population – period.

            The tipping point has been passed. People will vote for their self interest.

            It does not need to be dressed up any more than that or analyzed into the ground.

          • Sam_The_Chemist

            By the way, Blue in Canada and the UK is like Red in the USA. Don’t freak out!

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/APXOTETFOSAMAO74GKUVZPQPB4 Was and Is

            The same with me, but I am from Ex Yugoslavia. Now in US. It is time leave this country.

        • Vaffonculo

          yes very true, Check out Augusto Perez, who grew up in Cuba saw Castro take over. He came to Miami FL USA when he was 13. http://www.theappearance.com This website will open the willing eyes to see and willing ears to hear.

        • FBIkidnappedME

          This last election was already decided. No ones vote mattered. The details are explained at the whistle next to my name.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/R6XYTCDVDGFHASKEBIA6PLXNIU Brian Ward

            Wow, you’re right FEDS. Side by side photos of Oprah and Gayle King as well as Sarah Palin and Tina Fey totally explain everything. Idiot.

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            Rickrolled!

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            yes.

        • Real

          BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA, UM, UM, UMMM

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            I don’t judge people by their names.
            I judge them by their actions.

          • Susan34

            Real was making fun of the teacher who got innocent children to sing Obama’s name with mmm, mmmh, mmm. Actually though, Obama feels the way his name sounds. He loves muslims and despises the infidel. Just open your eyes and amazingly you will see. Obama is a traitor.

          • drgonz0

            Try sounding less crazy and maybe get your party to nominate an actual conservative, not a guy with nice hair and a big bank account as his only cred, and maybe independents like me will vote for him.

          • verheek

            Maybe you’ll do your research next time so you’ll be informed better informed who Romney is and not who the libs told you he is.

          • drgonz0

            Been there done that. Romney was not a Ronald Reagan conservative. He pretended to be one. No He was the guy laughed at and at CPAC when he called himself “severely conservative” . Maybe you should start reading and watching news from multiple sources instead of the one that just tells you what you want to hear. This defeat would not have been so surprising. The rest of the world knew.

          • http://twitter.com/edandterri Ed and Terri Smith

            It appears that “the rest of the world” to which you refer now consists of government dependent masses, waiting like cattle for the next free bale of hay from their master. More dependency and less self reliance, that’s the faire du jour. “The rest of the world” has become a shameless people.

          • drgonz0

            No, I’m talking about everyone who doesn’t use fox news and twitchy as their new source. People like me who work hard, make good deal of money, pay taxes, have investments, but are tired of being sold lies. People like me saw that this was not going to be a GOP victory because your guy is not legit. I depend on no one but myself. Independent people like me are tired of people like you lumping anyone who doesn’t drink your coolaide in with people who are too lazy to work. You don’t get it, and this is why until the GOP marginalizes people like you in their voice, they will continue to lose national elections. This may be a center right country on most fiscal issues, but it’s a left center country on social issues. Smaller government should mean you also stay out of people’s personal lives. And that’s what this past election ended up being about. Due to the Akins and Morcochs who lost races a fiscal GOP candidate would have won. It’s time to leave the religion at home and in the houses of worship. Let it shape your conduct, but don’t try to regulate others on your beliefs. In your own church (if you worship) you’ll find that people don’t even live/worship the same as you. It’s a personal thing and America does NOT want religious morality in their politics. Those that do are more marginalized today than ever before. I don’t care if you agree or not. Keep putting up the same candidates, and you’ll keep losing elections.

          • Dean Stenberg

            You should be proud. You voted the same as the new black panthers.

          • drgonz0

            And you voted the same as the KKK. What’s your point.

          • Junie3

            The party that Robert Byrd was a grand leader of?

          • le

            Ok… now you’re really showing your not with it. The Dem’s are the party of the KKK. Just ask Robert Byrd

          • le

            drgonz0….. Sure it did. Last I knew Byrd was a Democrat when he died. The fact is, the Dem’s are the plantation party as they want people to be beholding to THEIR form of government. By the way, nice language. Do you kiss your mom with that mouth?

          • Judith Lewis

            FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME THE KKK IS A DEMOCRAT ORGANIZATION. REPUBLICANS HAVE NEVER NEVER NEVER HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. THEY WERE THE VICTIMS OF THE KKK!!! THE VICTIMS WERE USUALLY BLACK REPUBLICANS DURING RECONSTRUCTION BUT WERE NOT LIMITED TO JUST BLACKS. I AM SICK OF HEARING THAT SAME OLD LIE OVER AND OVER AGAIN! Now get it right once and for all!

          • http://twitter.com/mister8nine Emmanuel Stubbe

            correct, division church and state. it is in the US constitution.

          • http://www.facebook.com/terri.bissette Terri Bissette

            Actually, it’s not. Look it up.

          • le

            Really? where?

          • http://www.facebook.com/chiya.smith Chiya Smith

            umm no whats in the constitution is freedom OF religion not freedom FROM religion, better read it sometime

          • Judith Lewis

            FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IS FOUND NOWHERE IN THE BILL OF RIGHTS OR THE CONSTITUTION!!! THERE IS NO RIGHT OF SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!! In fact, the Constitution specifically states that the government can NOT interfere with the free and open practice of religion in any way, shape or form, PERIOD. Religion is our FIRST RIGHT and our most important right. There are no restrictions of any kind on religion. So GET OVER IT!!!

          • le

            You don’t want morality in politics? So, murder is OK then huh? lol Next time you see someone pulling a gun on another person, don’t worry about it. It’s a moral issue and you shouldn’t get involved.

            Many… I had hope for you in your previous posts, but alas… like most people, you’re like the rest. You just want your own set of rules.

          • le

            drgonz0 … First of all, you didn’t answer the questions posed. I understand why that might be reluctant to do so. It messes your whole ‘no morality in politics’ up a bit. Secondly, you might want to learn how to not use such foul language because that’s a sure sign you ain’t got an answer. Thirdly, I’ll ask again, do you kiss your mom with that mouth?

          • le

            Thou shalt not steal

            Thou shalt not covet your neighbors anything

            Thou shalt not murder

            Thou shall honor your mother and father

            Thou shalt not commit adultery

            Thou shalt not lie

            Thou shalt not bear false witness

            Yes, I can see that these commandments aren’t part of the fabric of our laws! LOL

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Really Hmm I work full time and most of everyone I know does too. And I’m only over here in Canada. I’m pretty sure the financially stable, socially stable and reputable countries is pretty extensive. Unlike the USA that’s still digging it’s way out of the reputation hole the Bush administration dumped you in.

          • le

            You’ve got a lot of nerve dude. Your economy is ONLY as good as ours is so you better hope that Obama gives a little or your way of life will be like the McKenzie Brothers re-runs. Old and not necessarily very funny.

          • Dean Stenberg

            The rest of the world knew that Obama’s machine would do whatever possible to get the American hater re-elected. Do you really think that 99% of Philadelphia voted for Obama? That smells of cheating.

          • scubaski00

            The “defeat” came as teh result of VOTER FRAUD and our military ballots NOT being received in time!! There was only 200,000 votes that were either “unaccounted” for, “misplaced,” erroneously” miscalculated due to a convenient technical malfunction (yeah right), in 5 states, that had they been properly attributed, and the GOP inspectors NOT kicked out of polling places, we would have REAL hope for this country, not some slack-jawed, closeted effeminate Muslim, as YOUR leader!! I am actually making plans to move to Australia!!

          • drgonz0

            The military ballot story was a satire piece and has been proven a hoax. But I don’t expect you to seek the truth. Please don’t make yourself look foolish. The defeat was not part of voter fraud. Perhaps it’s time for you to leave the country or walk into traffic.

            I know fact check. How dare they
            http://factcheck.org/2012/11/did-undelivered-military-ballots-give-election-to-obama/

          • le

            The first problem is that fact check says the country is a democracy. We’re not, we’re a representative republic, or are supposed to be Constitutionally. Secondly, they give more money to liberal people or groups and some conservative. Third, each of these ‘factcheckers’ were or are affiliated with liberal newspapers. Fourth, you have people who have worked with Common Cause, while that sounds ‘unabiased’ Common Cause is loaded with ‘progressives’s such as Scott Harshbarger. That’s not unbiased.

            Lastly, they give money to PBS and if that isn’t horribly biased ‘news’ coverage with Gwen Awful and Bill Moyers, and company, then I’m not sure what is.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            satire piece with some truth in it.
            Go look at Florida.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            You can prove this? No you can’t and trust me on this with an Unmarried, atheist, female Prime Minister in Australia they don’t really want you and your kind there any more than Canada or any other same nation would.

          • ThatOneGirl

            I hate to sound like I’m panicking, which I am… But I doubt there will be a next time. At least not for us. Once we’ve lost our freedoms, we won’t get them back, at least not in our lifetimes. Maybe our great great grandchildren will be free, but as soon as Comrade Obama declares martial law and decides we are no longer smart enough to make ANY decisions for ourselves (which, I believe liberals already are), we’re…basically, fucked.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            LOL! The sky is falling! The Sky is falling!

          • Riley

            Well 4 years and we still have the Patriot Act. What’s up with that?

          • Orangeworm

            Oh… lets make everyone suffer through another 4 years of massive economic failure, because you’re mad about the Republican nominee. What an idiot. In this election, not voting was a vote for Obama. You along with all of the Ron Paul supporters who chose to abstain from voting should also apologize to all of the people who are soon to be entering the unemployment line.

          • drgonz0

            I think you and the GOP should apologize for nominating a guy who could not beat a president with 8% unemployment.

          • Orangeworm

            It wouldn’t have mattered what the unemployment number was for multiple reasons: You can’t win against a fictional character protected by the media. You can’t beat someone whose race is a deciding factor and automatically gets ~12%-15% because of it. George Washington himself would not have been able to beat this puppet.

          • drgonz0

            Well then why did he even bother. He was defeat-able. The candidate of choice, and social agenda lost the election.
            It will lose the next one too.

          • Orangeworm

            The GOP does need a makeover. They need a makeover, not in their views, but in how they are viewed. Its sad, but many people, especially young people are shallow and are not even considering facts or REAL issues. They are easily mislead with spin, such as “Romney wanted to take away women’s right to birth control?” …I mean really? That was not the case. There were many many untruths that media figures or Jay-Z or Sarah Jessica Parker or other people (who honestly couldn’t even find Canada on a map and they are influencing the young voters) were allowed to just spew out without question.

          • drgonz0

            In politics if you don’t control your message you lose. This is the way it works. It’s a dirty game. But honestly people were not honest with Romney about his reception by the american public. He was actually shocked that he lost. Yes men do not make a good campaign. And lets also be honest bout this. Romney was the 1 term republican governor of the most liberal state in the union. How conservative was he? He’s say and/or do anything to get elected. And he did. He did it when he ran for governor and succeeded, and then he did the same when running for president. The truth is no one really knows what he stands for because he’s taken every position there is.

          • Orangeworm

            I do agree that he was a big flip flopper on some issues. As a matter of fact, I didn’t like him during the primaries…compared to some other candidates. But when he was placed on the block next to Obama, my choice was cut and dry. The “social” issues were put on a back burner and those were the main issues that Romney had flip flopped on. Economic problems and foreign policy problems became the focus for me. Both circumstances, Romney was a far better candidate for President.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Romney is/was an absolute horror on/in foreign policy’s and even the fact he did not give an accurate detailed plan of just what he was going to do. He just failed on so many levels and tried to lie his way through the rest.

          • Dawn Holmberg

            U made ur bed now sleep!

          • drgonz0

            Mormoney’s policies were damn near identical to Obamas when it comes to spending. I mean what was he going to cut? PBS? He never did present any actual plan.

          • JayTee

            You should have paid attention. He had a very detailed plan, and Obama’s had four years to come up with a plan and all he can say or do is tax, tax, tax (and particularly the “rich”), and spend, spend, spend. He knows the EXACT recipe to ruin a country and its economy.

          • drgonz0

            Detailed plan? I paid very close attention to this election, watching ALL news sources reading newspapers, blogs etc. I’ll tell you my plan after I win is not a plan. Closing loopholes, and cutting rates to try to balance out to a revenue equal position i snot a plan. The most conservative think tanks read his “Plan” and said it wasn’t mathematically feasible. Again I’m fine, I’m going to be fine no matter who won. But The country is better off this way, than to let the bankers back into to finish ass raping this country.

          • Dawn Holmberg

            It sure wasn’t FREEDOM

          • Junie3

            Shocked because he led in the polls, obama never got above 50%. Fraud.

          • drgonz0

            Shocked because you were lied to by your “fair and balanced” news source. But you probably believe in virgin births and people walking on water. Oh and Evolution is a lie. You’re a dinosaur and this country is leaving you behind. Enjoy your social security and obsoleteness

          • Riley

            Wow way to extrapolate from NOTHING!

          • drgonz0

            Learned a new word this week?

          • http://dubyad.enjin.com/ Doobie

            You’re an idiot. You’re a typical progressive socialist liberal racist lemming spouting off the same old scat talking points that your Dear Leader and his thugs want you to say. Who you going to blame when you lose your job, can’t find work, and live off the government? Oh wait, you’re already doing that.

          • drgonz0

            Racist? I don’t think so. I make my own future asshole. I have a 21st century career and education. I probably pay more in taxes than you make in a year. But you only get your news from one source so you can’t be blamed for your ignorance.

          • http://dubyad.enjin.com/ Doobie

            Yes, racist. All progressive socialist liberals are racists. Not only that, you are equally as intolerant. Conversely, you make assumptions based on no verifiable facts or evidence about all conservatives. Your 21st century education is meaningless when you make these personal attacks against those who do not espouse your socialist beliefs. You probably do pay more taxes than I do. That’s because you do not know how to use the existing tax code to your advantage. A smart and education person would know this. As for my news sources, I am not one to rely on a single source. My own education includes a MBA that allows me to look at everything along with a strong internal bullshitte meter to help filter out the socialist liberal talking points and lies. Sadly, you do not. The day will come you WoW player that the fantasy world you live in now, will come crashing down around your ears finding yourself wondering why you lost all your liberties and freedoms due to the Dear Leader’s socialist agenda. You’ll have only yourself to blame. Not Bush, not Romney, not any conservative, just yourself and your fellow lemming progressive socialist liberals. You and yours are the clear and present danger to what freedoms and liberties we have left in this country and you are too blind, stupid, and ideologically inept to realize this. Lastly, you are living proof that the best part of you ran down your gene-daddy’s leg.

          • drgonz0

            Dude you made a comment that I was on the rolls, my point to you is i”m not. I’m highly paid, and I’m an investory. You’re the one making ASSumptions over who voted for Obama and why. Plain old truth is Romney was a jackass and didn’t deserve to win. I said this before. If the GOP would start nominating actual conservatives without a socially conservative agenda and will possibly win my vote, and the votes of millions of logical non-partisans like myself. Until that day I guess I’ll keep voting for the lesser of 2 evils. And the best part of you ended up all over your mothers face.
            Since we’re going to the school yard you jackass.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            You are seriously clueless if you think Romney is a jackass.

            That’s sad, actually.
            And that’s the basic problem. You and people like you (that probably hang out on Reddit most of the time) are too jaded and snarky to understand that there really are good people in the world.

            And you are so intolerant that you cannot open your eyes enough to realize that you might be wrong.

          • Judith Lewis

            And you think Obama was the lesser of two evils? What a moron! All of your jive talk is pure lies meant to antagonize and pour salt in the wounds of half the people in your country. I say your country because as long as there is one person like you here it is not my country anymore. When lies and fraud are the new normal in America I will sit it out and watch the carnage pile up while the looters and the thieves get their fill and find out it’s an empty existence and either kill themselves off or turn themselves into real people. If they come in contact with me I’ll put them out of their misery. As far as me and mine, we’ll be fine financially because we earned ours the hard way and I wouldn’t so much as offer the scum so much as a drop of water. My charity will extend only to our soldiers, period. I am sick of idiots who believe it’s my duty to work all my life and conduct my affairs responsibly, never asked for a handout in my life and I went through some really tough times but I pulled myself up and supported my kids and me without whining. I didn’t go to college but I managed and now that I’m retired, I’ll be damned if I will ever think that what is going on right now is ever going to be acceptable, nor should it be. No drug-saturated, drunken sociopathic, spoiled mama’s boy from Kenya should ever have been elected to so much as dog catcher in this country once, let alone twice! So here we are. Our collective character is being tested and from what I see,we are failing miseraby. Like Michelle, our wonderful First Lady, I am no longer proud of my country.

          • JayTee

            So you want us to take up where the Soviets left off, apparently. That’s the only agenda you’re talking about–but it STILL won’t work.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            It wasn’t so much Mitt they were directly accusing of the GOP war on women as the proof in the legal documents and bills passed by GOP states that had people speaking out. See you vote in Mitt…you’d vote these guys in too and the youth? There is really not that much in common with the GOP members in power and them.
            Too Old, Too White and Too big of Assholes.
            This is the social media age, these guys have no idea the amount of not so lazy but disillusioned youth there are out there. The Dem’s offer social change which is where that vote went.
            The GOP has to get it’s ass out of the 1940-50’s mentality that planet not just america doesn’t exist anymore.
            And my word on the women’s issues…if you’re not a woman shut the fuck up. These are our mothers, daughters, sisters, wives, girlfriends let them have whatever healthcare issues they need and just BE A MAN about it.

          • Christine Golden

            I don’t have a problem with a “woman’s right” to “control her healthcare issues.” I just wish they’d accept the responsibility that goes along with those rights and stop demanding that I pick up the tab. They insist that they have the right to make their own decisions about their bodies. Fine. It’s MY money and I should have the right to make my own decisions about it. Funding “women’s healthcare issues” should be an individual, personal choice, not one dictated by government fiat.

          • le

            1. keep your knickers on and you won’t have the problem. 2. pay for your
            stupid dripping down a womans stuff and not expect others to pay for
            it. 3. If the yuts, think they ain’t got no jobs now… just wait! You
            aint’ seen nuttin yet.

            So, if THAT is what the ‘youth’ voted for,
            the the youth will find out how it will feel not to have an iPad. Oh,
            wait.. maybe gummit will purchase that for you too.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            LOL. And guess where that iPad will be made…

          • le

            I don’t purchase Apple products as the Foxconn company is in China.

          • Riley

            I heard the same stuff during the Bush debates. Bush was going to force women to die horrific deaths from back alley abortions — yeah like THAT happened.

          • Ken Alan Draper

            the republican party’s biggest problem is that the majority of their leadership are progressive themselves, they have tried to make the GOP the Democrat-lite party, so most people do not see any reason to vote republican because they see no difference in the policies of the parties. had the GOP embraced Conservitism, they would have prevailed in the elections.

          • http://www.facebook.com/ricky.payne.7374 Ricky Payne

            thier wont be a next one mo

          • Red Fred

            Maybe but I doubt it. By the time we are taxed out of our shoes, and no one has a job to pay for people to sit on their ass I can assure you changes WILL be made. Count on it.

          • drgonz0

            Go to canada. They have government healthcare and socialism. Actually there aren’t many places you can go that don’t except maybe here.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Hell no I’ve already stated we really don’t want these types up here. We a democracy not a theologically bent capitalist mob we don’t want them here we have enough to deal with as is.

          • le

            Sure… if you believe people don’t have a right to express themselves I guess Canada’s a great place! No soup for you!

          • le

            Now… each and every one of you canucks… don’t breath a word I don’t like or off to court you go! What? The earth is round? Do not pass go, do not collect $100.

          • le

            Want to bring your kids up in a way that seems right to you? Sorry, off to court you go. Do not pass go, do not collect $100

          • Riley

            Canada, land of the high taxes! Quebec’s is 15% Oh wait it’s 5%, total and THEN add 9.5%. So tax on tax FTW!

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            Not to mention any number of voting “irregularities” in Florida and Oiho, among other less key places.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Yes with all those machines trying to switch votes to Romney and HAD to be pulled because of massive complaints:)

          • Junie3

            Funny that he could never get at 50% in the polls, but Romney could. Yet Ostupid wins.??????

          • bluewaternavy

            Yes, it’s called fraud. I saw shit here in NY that would amaze you. I reported it, but no one gave a shit.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            And I hope you recorded it on your camera phone?

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Fox news and conservative only polls don’t really count.

          • Riley

            Yes only the liberal media counts. Because they’re not biased. Not at all.

          • EvilDr

            I’m sure I’ll get called a racist just for knowing these figures, but Romney got less than 60% of the white vote, while Obama got well over 90% of the black vote. The numbers tell that story pretty clearly.

          • Junie3

            I think you should look at the amount of voter going on in this country by your pathetic clowns. Unions busing in homeless people to vote, registering the mentally retarded, busing in Somalians who don’t speak English, who are not citizens, opening the borders. It’s all going to come back and kick your butts in the end.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            And you have proof? Video evidence? Has this been reported to the FBI? Or the UN people called in to watch over the elections as observers? No…sorry you’re a liar.

          • http://www.facebook.com/chiya.smith Chiya Smith

            Actually the UN observers were shocked that we allowed people to vote without photo Id and that people were allowed to register and vote the same day with only a copy of a utility bill.

          • Just Another Guy

            Actually, I think you should apologize for letting Obama win when Romney would have been at least a small turn back.

            Instead, full steam ahead…over the cliff.

            I wasn’t for Romney…but I sure was against Obama.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Sorry Unfair…but He’s the best thing for America Since John and Bobby.

          • Rex A. Lones

            and how did they end up?

          • bsand2557

            Sorry dummy, John and Bobby would be Conservatives today. They didn’t even know that way out left was even there.

          • le

            Are you a Muslim? Do you believe that Allah is God? Sorry, we’re going to make sure your kids thinks that Allah ISN’T God. Oh, you don’t want that? Sorry, we’re the gummit and we’ll tell you what you can tell your kids in our gummit schools. Oh, no Mr and Mrs. Parent, you loose, Do not go pass go, do not collect $100 dollars.

          • Dawn Holmberg

            Well when he gives everything free, food stamp and everything else,and u ask how

          • drgonz0

            I’m done here most of you are coolaid drinking morons. It can’t be helped. No one is ever going to change their minds. Hopefully one day you all wake up and see the truth instead of the spin you watch 24/7. Hopefully it doesn’t lead you too far down the path. Half of you sound like you’re ready to open wrist of eat a bullet.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            You really need to pay attention to the Massive progress he’s made. I know lots of small employers for whom this isn’t a problem to pay. Those that are firing people to “save” their companies are either inept.
            Or far more than likely lying, greedy, douches.

          • MARY4RP

            Simmer down! You are barking up the wrong tree! Going back, the melt down began around 2007. Bankers loaned out money they did not have and caused the housing bubble to burst. No President, with limited Constitutional power, can utter a magic word and create industry and prosperity either overnight or in the long run. It must be done in a non-Communist national atmosphere. Slowly we are becoming Socialistic (a nicer word.) Worse with Obama’s re-election by receivers of his giveaways. Fact is the non-federal Federal Reserve of International Bankers are fleecing Americans who have spent years saving and now are stuck. (Only Ron Paul wanted to return to a sound economy by elimination of the Fed.) With additional research, you might not be surprised to learn – or confirm -that these bankers own both parties, and both candidates, have supported more wars, debt, and socialistic values in general.
            I am a direct descendant of a founder and am upset as you are.
            .

          • EvilDr

            A lot of Paul supporters felt that the Republican party ran a dirty, dishonest convention, and I for one, agree. I know several that voted Paul or Johnson on principle, both because of the convention and because they couldn’t in good conscience vote for EITHER candidate. Just like those of us saying “I told you so” with regards to reelecting Obama, they told the Republican party that Romney couldn’t win without them. They were right. The Republican party needs to restore integrity within the party before they will be able to move forward. I wasn’t thrilled with Romney as a choice, but voted for him as a more viable candidate for turning around the economy. (Which, by the way, should have been the ONLY priority for Obama during his first term. With the economy and budget under control he could have then offered a healthcare plan that might not have put this country out of business).

          • http://twitter.com/recklessapathy verra keyne

            I’d point the finger at voting fraud before blaming Ron Paul supporters for not rolling over and voting blind republican. Also; food for thought. http://www.policymic.com/articles/18815/the-ron-paul-effect-how-the-gop-threw-the-election-by-disenfranchising-ron-paul-supporters

          • Junie3

            What exactly were the winning qualities of your der leader, other than lowering the rise of the oceans and healing the land? Well it ends up he cant do that, can’t understand economics, can’t figure out when to send in troupes when they are getting murdered, can’t do a darn thing until that idiot Valerie Jarette tells him to. Romney’s creds were his ability to save companies ans create jobs in the private sector.

          • drgonz0

            Romney’s cred was a sham and the country was onto it. Suck it up and deal … It stings. You’ll be ok.

          • MARY4RP

            drgonzO- Amen! I was disenchanted with the Republicans and only joined again because it was the only way to support Dr.Ron Paul. Today I am totally disguested with them, the rules change, the cheating Dr. Paul out of delegates, the totalitarian actions in Tampa.

          • drgonz0

            Wow a levelheaded person. Than you for your comment and your logic.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002109532283 Jillane Kent

            That was his only qualification? So, you’re essentially saying that Obama bested Romney where it pertains to character and business savvy?

          • Riley

            Liberal banks accounts are unfortunately bigger than conservative ones. *cough* OPRAH!*cough*

          • Bigfoot Steve

            Independents did vote for him, genius, lol.

          • drgonz0

            Ohh yeah. That’s why he won.
            Thanks

          • Dawn Holmberg

            But he a would fight for our Country. Not like the person u voted for..

          • Orangeworm

            You are right. His name implies that he is Arab or Muslim… which he isn’t. But if he changed his name to Gorbachev or Vlad then his actions would more closely parallel his name.

          • Junie3

            He’s muslim by birth, why did he go and try to get his cousin elected in Kenya? The cousin that was going to implement sharia law.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Again you have proof? And that cousin is kind of distant. I have 2nd cousins I hate with a passion because they drug dealing thieves but that doesn’t mean I support them.

          • Me

            He’s not Muslim? Really? Why does his report card state that he is then? Oh, he’s not because he says he isn’t. Yeah, & most criminals don’t admit they are one.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            That’s been debunked too you know that right?

          • Me

            What has been debunked by whom? Him being a Muslim or his report card? I guess those photos of him growing up in his Muslim garb aren’t real either. I don’t trust anything his side says about his past. If he had no past to worry about he wouldn’t be hiding his records & then changing his tune. Our forefathers KNEW that being raised elsewhere would cause this problem. Amazing, the guys from 200 years ago show how much smarter they were than those super duper left learning educated people running the country now. He may have been born in the US, but we was raised outside. His citizenship may have been given up in Indonesia. Too many frightening things in this guy’s million dollar protected closet.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Oh my god the Reds are coming! Just please, get a reality check.

          • EvilDr

            Yeah, if you didn’t see the group of small children chanting this mantra praising Obama, feel lucky. Creepy as hell.
            Here’s the link to the brainwashing in progress:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp-ot_vChlU

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            No, I didn’t see that before.
            I really wish I hadn’t.
            Though, it is better to be informed.

      • Bill Anderson

        You got it right,Stew. That is why even though the stock market has dropped more than 400 points in the last two days, companies that manufacture firearms and ammunition have had their stock value shoot up (no pun intended).

        • CalMum

          buy bullets now – before they are outlawed… or sold

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000316304065 Michael Arnaud

            And silver.

          • Morgan Mundane

            and gold.

          • Just Another Guy

            Learn to reload ammo and buy a lot of supplies. They are just supplies until you make that final press.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Please do…please, please, please try your domestic teabagger based terrorism. I’d love to see the results.

        • ProudlyUnaffiliated

          Invest in the precious metals: gold, silver, lead, brass and steel machined into the shape of a gun.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=707270629 Jim Speed

            NO.. do NOT invest in Gold or Silver.. the time to BUY was BEFORE it went 8X its original value. When Rome fell even the gold the people had did not help. Get a GUN… AMMO… FOOD.

          • drgonz0

            And then watch the rest of the country live normal lives while you shake in fear watching misleading news.

          • Dan Lear

            I’m sure folks in pre-Hitler Germany smirked at those who warned.

          • drgonz0

            Didn’t you cry this 4 years ago. Honestly every 4 years one party is crying over the other. NDAA passed a republican house, signed by a pretty even senate and signed by obama. YOu think Mitt Romney would have done anything different?

          • Junie3

            LoL, that misleading news sure was right about Benghazi, how economically inept the false messiah is. I got a feeling you’re going to discover how wrong you’re newscaster are and how bad you were lied to.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            There’s been lots of attacks on the USA that have been as bad or worse and they’ve not been singled out like this.

        • korhal

          The stocks dropped due to dismal European economic forecasts, not because of the election. Don’t you investigate anything? FFS.

          • Orangeworm

            Yeah, that’s what it was. You will be blind no matter what. Read the propaganda, and believe it.

          • korhal

            LOL. No. I listen to facts, not Fox News. Take your rhetoric elsewhere.

          • Orangeworm

            Right. Fox News is not the only source of media on the Right. And the claims of companies planning or announcing layoffs is in no way connected to the poor Stock Market performance? Whatever.

          • korhal

            It’s leveled off, so I’m not seeing what the fuss is about. European economic woes, a nonsensical “fiscal cliff”, and blame going directly to the left. It’s BS and everyone with a modicum of intelligence knows it.

          • Orangeworm

            I do agree that the “fiscal cliff” is exaggerated, but the cost of Obamacare that small businesses are soon to be facing is a reality. That is no fictional cost. And the layoffs that will continue to occur until then, are a result of people preparing for it. The spiking stock market is only a momentary emotional reaction to the election. The election is over… people can admit that Obama is not very friendly to the economy. And what you saw was a reaction to his re-election. But the people of this country have a very short term memory, and the trend will swing back into the positive. I thought the negative would continue today, though less drastically, and improve on Monday. And this paranoia about a fiscal cliff will again cause another emotional spike if it is allowed to occur. But that’ll be it.

          • Boulder_Matt

            The fiscal cliff has a 4.3% drag on GDP. Today, GDP is growing at roughly 2%. Now, let’s do some simple math people. 2-4.3 = ?

          • korhal

            How is Obama not very friendly to the economy? The Dow Jones doubled under him. Businesses have had record breaking profits under him. Taxes have never, in the history of our country, been lower. Maybe that’s the problem? We were doing BETTER when taxes were HIGHER. Did you know that over 18 trillion dollars in US funds are being stored in offshore accounts, doing absolutely nothing for the US economy? It’s the robbing and pillaging of the American public, and US tax law allows it. THAT is what is hurting our economy the most.

          • Dan Lear

            That’s a ridiculous remark, pure campaign bull. The economy sucks and the whole world knows it. Bend over. Obama has a surprise for you.

          • korhal

            ROFL. Well, you can’t back up your comments with proof, so you’re just spouting the same bullshit rhetoric the pundits have been regurgitating for months. Suck it.

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            I swear he’s going off a script like a telemarketer. Hey, kornhole, is it true Media Matters has dropped their rate to 4 cents a word because the economy sucks so bad since Tuesday?

          • SpinMeNot

            Hey Korhal — you need to play less StarCraft and more learny learny. Those so called 18 million dollars, aren’t US Funds. That is the property of private citizens. I realize that allowing the people to keep their own money, seems like robbing an pillaging to you, but that is because you don’t care about freedom, just free stuff you can take from others.

          • SpinMeNot

            Sorry, I need to deal with the insomnia somehow.

          • alittleunwell

            Korhal, Did you know that both Obama and Nancy Pelosi have off shore accounts? I’ve read several of your posts and I’m going to throw something at you that you haven’t considered…most liberals haven’t considered. Lockheed Martin is laying off in big numbers, Boeing, Westing House, Abbott Labs, Boston Scientific, on and on . Lockheed Martin made a sweetheart deal with the government to delay the announcement of the layoffs until after the election. In return for delaying the announcement, the government will help with the monies needed for severance packages. Lockheed Martin manages Sandia Nat. Labs in NM as well as their own business.

            This is how the retirement packages have been set up for the employees of SNL. Everything was invested for them by a type of trust, set up by the government years ago. The investments are all in the stock market. (yet oddly enough none of the investment were made in precious metals) The employees had no say about how their retirement funds were invested but the could opt for a retirement fund that was basically a savings plan with low interest . This is where is gets tricky so listen! The layoffs will hit the national labs hard. The retirement funds are all in the stock market and it dropped 3 or 400%. That means that you have the best scientist in the world out of work with no income and no retirement because their money is gone. Is this sinking in yet?

            Let me ask you this, do you think these men will stay out of work long? Have you ever heard of a Brain Drain? These men will work and they’ll make good money. Only it won’t be here in the US. Do you understand me? Can you fathom what I”m saying? Obama said in the debates there would be no funds cut to defense and the only one who believed that were the Dems. When it was clear he was going to win the election the news that lays were coming was known to anyone with even the slightest idea of economics.

            Who is really getting screwed here? To a degree it’s the scientific community but for the most part It’s the American people. Now you have a whole sector of the scientific community out of work and they will have one choice, that’s to work overseas. These men/women that have done so much to create cutting edge technology in green energy, nano-technology, weapons, radars etc will be working for other countries.designing their weapons and technology. Are you shaking yet? You also have all the small business that depend on these communities to eat at their restaurants, use their dry cleaning services along with shoe repair, hair salons, auto repair, home maintenance services, day care, etc. They no longer have a clientele because their customers are out of work. Lays off never affect just one business.

            When you see these people leave the country don’t even think of calling them unpatriotic for leaving. Instead look at why they had to leave. It’s because of people like you that can’t see the writing on the wall. You’re so delighted in this President, that represents your way of thinking, you don’t even realize that you voted yourselves an economic disaster. How is a broke government going to pay for welfare, Obamacare, food stamps, education, military…basic needs? Today the President announced that there would be no new taxes on middle income people. But he’s still going to balance the budget. It’s not possible because you no longer have a tax base to pick up the tab.

            Rich people have the option to leave, and they will. The educated will have opportunities else where and they’ll take them. The Science and Engineering students graduating from our universities, with tax dollars from our Pell Grants, will take jobs outside the country. What are you left with? The rich are gone, small business owners can no longer afford to operate a business. The science related jobs are gone and the scientist will leave too. What you have now are the people who depend on the government and there will be no revenue for these entitlements they so desperately want.
            Here’s the good news. We can all get the morning after pill and we’ll need it because we just got screwed.

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            And our corporate taxes are the highest in the world. And why do you think, exactly, all that money is being kept offshore? So the “rich” can pay even higher taxes on it? How much more do you imagine would go offshore if taxes went up?

            What a ffkkng idiot.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Highest corporate welfare too instituted under Rethugs.

          • Terry

            Dude, are you even remotely familiar with the new ‘penalties’ on med device makers and employers w/ more than 50 full-time employees in Obamacare law? How about the sequester? Do you comprehend Obama pulling $1 TRILLION out of the defense dept budget? He already signed that and campaigned that he wouldn’t repeal it, it’s his “budget cut”. What the hell do you think will happen to employers impacted by those two things alone? If you ever tried to start a business after Frank-Dodd financial reform, you’d know it is dam near impossible to get a friggin loan. And don’t go all “credit rating” on me, mine is about is high as one can get. Obama is destroying this nation and I cannot believe idiots believed crap like Romney wanted to outlaw Tampons (reallly??), Birth Control or Abortion (which are enshrined via court decisions decades old). Maybe Romney wasn’t the most conservative man in the world, but at least he loves our country and knows that programs like the 3 mentioned above will destroy this once great nation.

          • korhal

            You lost me at “maybe Romney wasn’t the most conservative man in the world”. He wasn’t, until he was bought and paid for by Karl Rove and other Tea Party bigots. If you can’t stand behind your candidate with conviction and say “he was the right man for the job,” which you can’t, then your vote was bought and paid for by super PACs and corporate media as well. You’ve lost all credibility.

          • Dan Lear

            You’re lost. You saw the tree but missed the forest. No, you couldn’t even see the tree—you saw the bark. This election was about beating Obama to save this nation. If you “protest voted” you’re as guilt as the Obamites.

          • korhal

            I never said I “protest voted”. I said I’m AGAINST protest voting. I voted for the candidate I felt was the best choice, so you can just fuck right off there.

          • Dean Stenberg

            Korhal, your language lines right up with IQ.

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            What is a “Tea Party bigot”? What exactly do you think they’re bigoted against? High taxes? UnConstitutionally intrusive government? Well, you’d be right, there.

          • Terry

            Can you read Korhal? You have NO idea what my ideology is, I didn’t express it in my post. Maybe Romney isn’t “THE MOST conservative man in the world” but he does love our country. AND he campaigned to ash-can Obamacare, the Sequester and Dodd-Frank. For those reasons alone, the man got my vote, regardless of his ideology.

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            “It’s leveled off.”

            So has the Titanic.

          • Junie3

            LOL, you can’t fix stupid. You’re life is going to drastically change and your IQ might increase a tad.

          • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

            And that’s why all the layoffs too, huh? Right.

          • http://Obamaeatsshit.com/ Oscuma Sux

            better to read the articles and listen to the economic news before opening your mouth korhal….stocks dropped because of investor uncertainty over the looming fiscal cliff this country is facing

          • korhal

            I’m just going to LOL at that, because…LOL. I already explained why stocks dropped.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Nope, not one bit.

      • dc63

        I would be, but I’ve read the end of the story. it will be hell to go through, but Heaven is the reward for those who believe.

      • MarkStolzoff

        taxes are at all time historical low in this country, yea, very marxist

        • devil_wheels

          Marxism is defined more by government dependence based on the idea (which I state informally) that no man is an island i.e. altruism and not by taxes. This is in contrast to the original American idea of individual independence.

          So yes, the US has taken a turn towards collectivism. Call it marxism or whatever else you want.

          • JBar595

            From each according to his ability To each according to his needs, Marxism.

          • devil_wheels

            Thank you. You said it better than I.

            You didn’t build that. Marxism. But that’s what America seems to have chosen.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Funny the religutards call that “Love thy neighbor?”

        • somethingdifferen

          Idiotslike you voted this marxist in. now he has more flexibility to continue his agenda.

          • FBIkidnappedME

            No, the unelected dictatorship “voted” their puppet back in. Learn what the media cannot report on, the coup, the cover up, and this last rigged election.

        • http://profiles.google.com/sanddog Ms Anonymous

          For the 47%. For the rest of us? Not so much.

        • Mike Dunger

          Mark, how can you honestly believe that “taxes are at all time historical low in this country”? For generations, we didn’t have HUD, EPA, DHS, FBI, CIA, Air Force, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, WIC and countless other government agencies and programs.

        • CalMum

          sure argue the finest details… labels, labels labels

        • SNT

          There was no constitutionally approved income tax until 1913, you ignoramus.

        • CentralScrutinizer

          Coporate taxes are at an all time high. The government is squeezing business to make people more reliant on them…Marxism.

        • http://www.facebook.com/russell.hoffman.79 Russell Hoffman

          and January 1 the tax cuts expire. Economists are calling it “taxmageddon”. Put down the koolade for long enough to be informed.

        • Okieflyover

          All time low? You a 47%’er ?? Must be.

        • mike

          Taxes are low because of Bush, not Obama, but the deficit is at an all time high because of Obama. We are just borrowing instead of taxing right now. Soon, the borrowing won’t be available and we will have to tax out of necessity. You know the story, can’t cut social programs that people depend on.

        • coacht11

          Mark ,, WHO the hell r you kidding, Tell me do you really believe that crap you just posted. Dam you people are really stupid,,hahahaha, what a shame YOU and the others just started the FIRE that WILL take down America,,

          • FBIkidnappedME

            Save your breath, government is busy trying to sell you on Obama being reelected by “we the people.” Want the truth on the cover up? My profile exposes what the media cannot, the truth!

          • $20403764

            Manipulating people for clicks again, are you?

        • Neal Avery

          Fool, The Bush Tax cuts expire at the end of next month. FU

        • hdc77494

          Are you trying to credit Obama for that? Please.

        • $2942628

          Which gives the government more tax receipts and provokes less spending?

          13 Trillion taxed at 30%

          or

          18 Trillion Taxed at 15%

          Which scenario is better?

          Why?

        • jeeper97

          Because they are running out of people to tax!

      • Allan Howell

        Don’t forget the billions of hollow point bullets bought for social security administration, homeland security, and the weather agency ( lol ). And don’t forget the looming battle to strip the 2nd amendment. And Don’t forget that Obama now has the authority to shut the internet down. What conspiracy theories? History tells us where we are headed.

        • FBIkidnappedME

          Washington is running the conversation online folks to try and sell you on this last rigged election. Learn what the media has been blacked out from reporting on leaked in my profile. See the proof and judge for yourself.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W4M7CFQRT7IZLPYAJE4BJWMG3Q Bearman

          The Dept. of education, too. Do they intend to teach kids how to use guns safely? Not likely. Why would “educational” bureaucrats need ANY bullets, let alone hollow points? In the Iraq war we used approx. 70M bullets per year (hollow points are outlawed on the battle field) DHS ordered 750M.

        • Jain Hayles

          “…Obama now has the authority to shut the internet down.” lmfao!!!! Good one. Then again, one advantage of that would be that you wouldn’t have a forum for your laughable comments.

          • Terry

            Uh, Jain… He does have this power. If you hear him declare a state of national emergency, you can kiss every freedom you ever cherished, good bye.

          • Jain Hayles

            Of course! Because the internet is only available in the good ole U S of A….

          • Terry

            Ok, so he can’t shut it down in China or Iraq. Ya got me there. But he can shut down individual sites and servers any time he wants, within the US, and that should scare the hell outta you.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Actually he can’t do any such thing to any other country. And he wouldn’t dare even if he could there in the united States because uhm as much as you’re effing idiots those of us in the nations friendly and allied to yours would patently oppose it as illegal by your own laws. Plus the government doesn’t own the service lines and he’d never get the manpower to out strip the corporate servers and comlines.

            Not that he would, aside in your paranoid delusionalism.

          • Terry

            Bob, he has already broken many US laws via Executive Order. He told his staff to ignore DOMA and Welfare (laws signed by Dem president Bill Clinton) and Immigration. We have a WARN law requiring employers to notify employees of pending job loss under certain conditions. Failure to do so results in penalty. Many, MANY people are going to lose their jobs because of the Sequester that will pull $1 Trillion from the defense budget on January 1. WARN notices were, by law, supposed to be issued by November 1. Obama had a letter sent to all the major defense contractors telling them to NOT issue the notices and he would “waive” the penalty for breaking the law. This is not only breaking the law, it’s bribing others to do so as well. Obama has put himself above US law many, many times. He’s responsible for 100’s of deaths in Mexico, and a few in the US, via his “Fast and Furious” gun running program, and then tried to blame George Bush for it when he got caught. Most recently, he refused assistance to US citizens under attack by islamist terrorist freaks in Libya. He is a sad excuse for a “commander in chief”. The military knows it, so he filed a lawsuit against a couple of states, stopping them from sending ballots to our military currently serving over seas. His EPA just issued a regulation banning the building of any new coal-fired power plants and yesterday, he shut down shale oil extraction in a major portion of land in the west. He told Canada they could not lay a pipeline for transport of oil across a 2 foot piece of land. (Keystone Pipeline) This is not paranoia, its crap he has already pulled. He owns the US mainstream media. None of the above were carried on the news during the campaign. Do you really think he isn’t above shaking down the major internet companies (Google et al)?

          • Silenttype78

            He absolutely does!
            It was in one those Friday Ex. Orders.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            Oh yes and the internet too only exists in the United States.

        • korhal

          You lunatic. That’s not where any hollow-point bullets went. Stop listening to your Fox News and Brietbart overlords.

          • Terry

            Korhal, do some research. Millions of hollow points to Social Security Admin, Homeland Security, and the National Weather Service. Geez, they post this stuff on the US Gov’t website. Why don’t you actually look instead of blinding believing the crap you read on daily Kos or hear on MSNBS

          • korhal

            LOL. It’s already been proven as a clerical error and they were delivered to the WRONG DEPARTMENT.

          • Silenttype78

            Geez dude, you’d just believe anything wouldn’t you?!?!

          • Bob Ibbitson

            You can’t explain this to them, they’ve downloaded the fucktard directly into their brains.

      • Allan Howell

        Don’t forget the billions of hollow point bullets bought for social security administration, homeland security, and the weather agency ( lol ). And don’t forget the looming battle to strip the 2nd amendment. And Don’t forget that Obama now has the authority to shut the internet down. What conspiracy theories? History tells us where we are headed.

      • 9thID

        It’s called the Cloward-Piven strategy and has been in place since the 60s…

        • Me

          Yup, it’s right on track too. That is probably the most important piece of information out there that people don’t even know about.

      • AZ Schumi

        Countries without an armed populace fall to dictatorships…

        DON’T WORRY – oblamer doesn’t stand a chance of pulling anything off.

        • http://www.facebook.com/adrianne.gossard.5 Adrianne Gossard

          America has alreday fought one revolutionary war to get out from under
          tyranny and over taxation…..We can do it again.

          • janyce myers

            Amen and I know a.lot of hunters,veterans and Joe of the street people that will take up arms to protect our freedoms.

          • Bob Ibbitson

            They did and voted the right man into office.

      • Guest

        Anything I can to do undermine and destroy the US economy is my moral obligation. The GOP has failed to protect us from further infringement of our individual liberties. The GOP must be destroyed. Join the Libertarian movement.

        • Derick Moore

          Sound to me that you are advocating the same ‘Rules’ as Obama. Read “Rules for Radicals”! Then realize that your inclination is exactly what they want to happen.

        • patteel

          It was you jerks that wasted your votes that put Obama over the top. So stuff it, you reap what you sow idiot Liber tarians.

        • Terry

          Good plan, idiot

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7Y6WTL2U4SCTD35A6L6KUD6OFY Gary

        don’t worry about a marxist takeover. too many guns out here. never happen.

        • RightThinking1

          That is not how it happens.
          It is a creeping, constant, chip, chip, chip. It is that process that has brought to this situation now. The installation of Supreme Court Justices by O is likely to be the final nail in the coffin.

      • $2942628

        . . . and Democrats (Socialist) are laughing all the way to the “vote bank” . . . you employers might be better served by educating your employees as to what makes their job possible . . .

      • mrhuehls

        It will not go into bankruptcy, because BHO will print money by the train load. That will cause serious inflation which will drive us into a depression. What were the bread and soup lines of the 1930’s will be similar to the riots seen at the big G meetings (G8, G10, G20, the governments of the world meeting to check the economic troubles).

        • Brian

          So, the same strategy that Bush did for 8 years?

      • Maus

        Oh, this is definitely pre-planned. It is the strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

      • Pro_bono_publico

        I believe Napoleon said something to the effect of “Never attribute to malice that which can more easily explained by incompetence.” This President and most of his political appointees have no clue how to run our free market economy, let alone how to fix what is presently ailing it.

        • Shawn Smith

          Hanlon’s Razor, by Robert J. Hanlon. Knowing the right source will deflect some idiot who tries to derail the argument next time you use it.

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/nwc.jpg

          Edited to add: That’s a link to the post-election Newsweek cover that depicts Obama dressed as Napoleon and across the top reads:

          GOP: YOU’RE OLD, YOU’RE WHITE, YOU’RE HISTORY!

          • Marcy Cook

            And..we know what happened to Napoleon..we can only hope history repeats itself.

      • Kelli D

        We better believe it! Pray, Prep and Plan. Terrified? Absolutely! Giving up? Never! Fight…We The People need to encourage family and friends to sign this petition to Congress to keep the US out of the UN’s Arms Trade Treaty. BO and Hillary agreed to sign thisTreaty November 7th, the day after the election, knew it was coming. NAGR http://www.nagr.org and Dick Morris http://dickmorris.rallycongress.com/8103/sign-petition-to-stop-arms-trade-treaty/ have this petition on their sites. Please sign and tell Congress NO! Giving up your right to bear arms will prevent you from defending your right to free speech, religion taking us further into Obamaland. I for one refuse!

        • Bob Ibbitson

          That’s against the proliferation and sales of military grade hardware. I’m sure you really need an AR-15 right?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QSVJEUNHYOTAZUPB3KKUE7Y7G4 Steak

        Hey moron, there is no such thing as a “fascist Marxist takeover.” Fascism and Marxism are mutually exclusive. You’ve clearly never read anything by Marxists nor anything by Fascists. In a reasonable world, you would be embarrassed for being exposed as having no clue what you’re talking about. But because we live in our imperfect reality, you’ll probably walk away from this more convinced of you position than before. It’s called the Dunning-Kruger effect. God forbid you know what you’re talking about before giving us your worthless opinions.

      • http://www.SPX90.com Mary in South Jersey

        Actually.. that makes complete sense. The EO’s are in order. Wow… terrified doesn’t even scratch the surface over here.

      • Ken Alan Draper

        it’s Cloward/Pivin in action. But I don’t think Cloward/piven factored business’s going Galt into their plan to destroy the U.S. economy & impose socialism.

    • Chester White

      Nope God is still in Control!

    • http://www.facebook.com/diann.gardner Diann Gardner

      yes ma’m

    • Douglas Mael

      Yes …. VERY terrified!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RYBYVBRDNZKXL3BESHOZULLQRA Jennifer

        You should not be terrified!! Your is your faith in God?

    • http://www.facebook.com/tanya.hankins.7 Tanya Hankins

      yes,im very terrified.

    • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

      And people thought the “preper’ shows were a joke….my freezer is full…my cabinets are full..been doing it for MONTHS..felt something “coming’….and sadly I’m not the only one…..seems people ALL ACROSS the US have felt the same way

      • Kay Williams

        I am a prepper, too…food good for 25 yrs

        • http://www.facebook.com/whageshi Shirley Hage

          Kay where did u get the 25 yr. food?

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            Actually, most canned food lasts much longer than the date says it does. I’d stay away from anything with much dairy in it.

          • Liberty_Jane

            Costco actually sells storage food on their website. Search food storage on the internet.

    • whoskiddin

      Yep

    • Shawn Smith

      Yes. Things are about to get much, much worse. Get used to the sight of “Out of Business” signs.

    • cathy

      Yes, I am. I am most concerned with the balance in the Supreme Court. We have 3 Justices in their 70’s. God help us all.

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        Aw, geez. I knew it was bad, but I hadn’t really gone over the details of the Justices yet. DAng.

    • freefall3i5

      Yes. And grief-stricken…as if I’m grieving for what will never again exist once it’s gone. Been feeling slight panic since Obama’s (non) response to Benghazi. This is the first time I have ever felt unsafe in my country.

    • BobSmith77

      I understand why people are concerned economically but those on here who want war with Iran or advocate military strikes on them make me want to puke as an American. So tired of the warmongering that our country does and the annual >$1T price tag that comes along with it that has left has overstretched, overcommitted, and unable to bear the costs.

      • Justin Ahlquist

        there has never been a 1 trillion price tag for annual military operations involving overseas

      • Lord Foggybottom

        Bob, with all due respect, you’re an idiot.

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        You have managed to be for war and against war, back and forth, all over this thread. What’s your damage, man?

        • BobSmith77

          Im 100% against the Bush doctrine of preemption and striking another nation prematurely with massive force. Obama has largely picked up on that too.

    • immykal

      This is a rerun of Venezuela….identical to what Chavez has done…watch for 2016 when he demands to be lifetime El Presidente –

    • http://twitter.com/hackeysack415 Manfred Moore

      Not me, I’m retired.

    • Yakypakrat

      I was before we started the vote

    • Lord Foggybottom

      Apparently, the Mayans were right.

    • YeahWeWill

      Yes.

    • Beeta

      I am 65 yrs old and this is the worst thing I have seen happen to my country. Those of us watching and researching him new it would happen and warned the people, all we could that would listen. Those that do not care about our country voted obama in. This election was a fraud. I cried my heart and eyes out for 2 days and nights like someone had died.. and it had.. It was a black day in America and it was the day America died… It will never be the same . If we do not remove Obama and overcome the takers we will never know the country we once knew and loved… I am terrified not for myself so much as my beautiful grand children and great grand children. Obama is transporting illegals and muslims here as fast as he can to assure the left liberal vote and to control and change our country from a Christian nation to a muslim state.. The takers do not love the country as those of us who built the nation. They have come here like vultures to live off of what someone else has earned. They to will perish as we all will to a 3rd world country… Yet they do not see or care what they are doing. They did not build their country so they do not know pride.. They steal and are enabled by a usurper from africa who hates america and the americans… It is down hill for America all the way.. and to late for change as Obama will see to that now that he has the power to enforce the policies to do so. Where are the true Patriots of our Gov. that we voted in to protect our constitution and our rights ? They are cowards and are afraid to comfront this evil. Therefore we have lost! a black day for america nov.6 2012. The movie 2012 was a movie that introduced the people to Obama. Many watched and learned many would not.. To late now but it is terrifying to say the least when you see who he is.. Like the Anti-christ he has a way with words where he says something and the people see it the way he wants them to but he means something different. He is a deciever..a gifted deceiver… I wished my nation had woke up . But they did not… Now it is to late..

    • Deb V

      Terrified here. My kids were watching me election night, and my daughter actually said, “mom, I gotta say, seeing you this Freaked out is making me sad”….

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        I have never been so fired up for an election.
        And I have never been so sad at the end of one.

        I hope there are more kids like yours that start to recognize the “bad” conservatives are genuinely terrified at this result.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1353840457 Derick Coop

      I had strong faith in God and Country. Well, now, I have faith only in God….and my dog
      :)

    • Marcy Cook

      Do not be afraid. Be prepared. Join up with like minded patriots. We will be O.K.

    • SJMWilco

      Less terrified, more terminally depressed. Stocking up on ammo and weapons

    • Real

      This is the new America?

      Well that is what they say.
      With the new America
      comes new terms or may be new to you that will be in the news.

      There is a lot of doom and gloom out there.

      In plain English here is an explanation of the new terms for
      the New America.

      1. Keep this in mind the economy cycles and it may recover
      on its own. It would have by now if not for Obama’s’ policies.

      This self recovery is unlikely with Higher Taxes= Higher
      Unemployment and Obama Care = Higher Unemployment.

      So unless something changes there will not be much self
      recovery.

      There is already talk of part time teachers as a result of Obama Care.

      Several private sector employers will have to make employees
      part time. [This exploded yesterday after I wrote this].

      People aren’t going to feel so good about punishing those
      rich people.

      2. Fiscal Cliff

      This is a combination of expiring tax cuts and across the
      board spending cuts that go in effect Dec. 31, 2012. This is having an effect on hiring and
      spending and may send us into a recession if we weren’t already in one.

      3. Double dip recession

      This is when the GDP (gross
      domestic product) goes back to a negative after it has been positive for one or
      two quarters of the year following a recession. We have pretty much been in a
      recession since the housing crash before Obama was elected. If we truly come out
      of the recession for 3 to 6 months then return to a recession that is a double
      dip.

      There is also a Triple Dip Recession which is much
      worse and last longer.

      4. Depression

      Much worse or is it?

      Unemployment rose to 25% during
      the Great Depression but that included those who had given up looking for work
      unlike today’s figures. If we include those we get closer to the 25%.

      U.S. output dropped almost by half and world trade plummeted by
      65%.

      It can’t happen again because
      banks are insured (FDIC)……. WRONG…
      Since Obama has taken office there is no longer enough FDIC money to cover
      your money in the bank.

      In my state there are only I think
      4 or 5 banks that are solvent and could actually return your money if we have a
      Great Depression and none of them are close to my area.

      Not likely but we did not have
      Obama care when the Great Depression started. We did not have a 16 TRILLION
      PLUS DOLLAR DEBT going in to the GREAT DEPRESSION.

    • http://www.facebook.com/faith.dunn2 Faith Dunn

      no dear not anymore..my business and home are gone..no i didnt vote obama..i do not take hand out..yes i am unemployed..for to long..its the new norm..romney was our only hope..atleast thats how i felt..next four years will be tough

    • Bryan Wiley

      Depressed at the stupidity of my own countrymen. Another 4 tears.

    • thohan

      A wise person instructed me to convert my worry to action. I am fortunate enough to have a bit of money each month that I will now be using to purchase some food and warm-weather gear. Focusing on preparation for disaster and lean times.

    • operanerd1986

      Yes; the only way I am able to stave it off is to realize that this is all part of God’s plan. There must be some reason why this is happening, but we can’t see it yet.

    • korhal

      Nope. Not terrified in the least. It’s reactionary bullshit, and would have happened regardless of who was elected.

    • Linds

      I am. I work in oil and gas exploration. The rumors about shut-downs and companies “going into hibernation mode” have been flying for months.

    • Michele

      @twitter-193093383:disqus I’m a nervous wreck. God help us!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003610216659 Corby Miller

      The only people who are not worried or scared are the people who are not smart enough to understand what will happen now

    • Mr. Bob

      Yes!!!

    • Babycakes3847

      I am terrified because the fiscal irresponsibility the gloaming job losses, the dependency of foreign oil, a health care plan that every one will be obligated to buy, the security weakening, the prices of food. I am ready to buy more guns, more ammu, (before they take away the right to defend our self’s,) stock up food, pay any left over debt, and save, save save about everything you can thing off. I tell you I am terrified, after all what is going on in our Country, Obama’s reelection and after watching the movie Obama 2016 now I am hyperventilating!!!!! Just think about it.

    • Junie3

      No, my faith is in God. He made promises he can keep.

    • Michelle Blackwell

      No. Regulations change all the time. Tax laws change. Businesses adapt.

    • http://twitter.com/recklessapathy verra keyne

      Not terrified. Just very sad that this is happening.

    • Kat Blakely

      Me. Completely.

  • MadisonSpock

    I’ve already divested from my 401K. Everyone should do the same. Make a statement and save money.

    • medicinewomantwo

      did that a few years back, hero worship rarely bodes well for the little man…………

    • stuart little

      Went to 6 years cash in IRA’S when it was up a month ago. “Bunker portfolio”. Between election, debt/deficit, fiscal cliff and stoopid government, I bet on a bad outcome. Market just catching up now. Oh shit!!

      • Gonnabowlnow

        You do know IRA’s,401k’s and Pensions are in line to be confiscated for the common good by the Socialists in the new U.S.S.A.?

    • AwakenNow

      I moved all funds in 401k and individually held mutual/bond funds to money market fund yesterday.

      • MadisonSpock

        Exactly. Take your funds out of the market but leave them in your 401k.

      • BobSmith77

        You moved your money to bond funds and think they are safe? All of the money that has more into commercial paper and gov’t bonds is ripe to get taken to the cleaners in the next year.

    • BobSmith77

      And you paid the huge penalty for early withdrawal? Your just an idiot then.

    • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

      We’re “driving” our 401K……hate to see statement after the last few days of ‘crashing:

    • BobSmith77

      Another bot posting.

      • MadisonSpock

        You are a fool.

  • http://www.facebook.com/stephanie.grimwood Stephanie Marie Grimwood

    Elections have consequences. I just got done talking to my 10 year old about what happens when you raise taxes. He understood it perfectly. But since most of the Obama voter were only worried about them and their stuff. This won’t effect them. Meanwhile my husband is working his butt off tonight and has been for the last several years for what so we can see our money go somewhere else.

  • medicinewomantwo

    So why involve Bamy, just let Lame Stream media state their opinion, cut out the middle man……………

  • BeauRyker

    Really simple…the libbies know squat about economics. Ignorant to the max. No clue as to how business works. They’re fixing to find out, when the teat dries up and their obamaphones can’t get a dialtone.

    • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

      (not disagreeing… just pointing out that most of them don’t know what a dial tone is unless they live in the Northeast and had to use a payphone over the past couple weeks.)

  • sophie

    Tues. night was awful for us we felt sick and couldn’t sleep and then Wed morning
    it got worse. My husband worked for USCellular and was told his job was gone along
    with 100’s of other people. Kicked in the head twice in less than 24 hours. Thx 47%

    • Natalie Anderson

      so sorry chris, my prayers are with you. I have just opened a new business…will probley be in the unemployment line soon too 😛

    • Natalie Anderson

      I’m still waiting for my Obama bucks to build my business for me…they just never come…..

    • Crystal Lee

      So sorry to hear :( We will get through this hon….

    • Fight4Freedom

      Ugh. So sorry Chris. Hope he uses his spare time productively, like for PREPARATION. God bless!

    • Kandeep

      :(

    • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

      Sorry hubby lost his job..we all stared at the tv saying WHAT???Waiting on the the next shoe to drop….

    • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

      :(

    • BobSmith77

      Sorry to hear that. Next year is going to be shitty who was elected because of the global numbers. Just a question of how shitty and if we have an event (severe Chinese retraction, global currency crisis in a bond market including Italy or Spain) that sends us to GD2.

    • Concerned

      This is awful! I am so sorry for you. I wish only the ones who asked for this would pay for it, but sadly we all will in one way or another.

    • nc

      Second time on this thread – I am so sorry, what a terrible thing to happen, especially now.

    • BobSmith77

      Bot posting. Been posted now twice already in this same article.

    • CalMum

      Sorry for your loss… We are all sick here in California… those outside of SF and LA Counties are not celebrating… no one can even sleep. It’s like a death. The death of good old best friend. What we are doing, is anything empowering. Making plans… many small business owners are shutting it down now. They have been hanging on by their fingernails for four years already. This is enough! Some of us are planning an exodus out of the US… we can’t afford to retire here anymore. The Grinch stole Christmas at our house… adult kids are not too happy about that… sorry… gearing up for Tax Day 2013… on top of our medical premiums going up an expected $4,000 annually per family, it is likely our new tax bill will match that amount and probably be more. What? No Christmas??? You are moving where??? Suddenly, trumped up loss of reproductive rights doesn’t look so scary, and the kool-aid is tasting a bit bitter today.

  • http://twitter.com/x_ScubaSteve_x ScubaSteve

    Well at least now we can all get an Obama phone and food stamps, and free healthcare. Who needs a job anymore since we have Obama Claus.

    • stuart little

      Euro economies are far ahead of us on gaming the system and using the black market and barter. That is why wealth taxation (confiscation) is next..

  • http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.bredeson Elizabeth Julien Bredeson

    In my mind, I don’t care. The sheeple voted, and they are getting screwed. End of story.

  • gotham43

    “Forward – To The Cliffs!”

  • http://www.drudgereport.com/ Strangelove

    But libs on the internet are delighted that Big Bird is safe. Just gotta have the right priorities.

    • medicinewomantwo

      DON”T FORGET THEIR VAGINAS!!!!!!

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        Big Bird in their vaginas, kept safe with all of the tampons and birth control?

      • Becky Richey

        They will need those, now that they’re done voting with them. The oldest profession may be the only one left.

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          ooooof!
          (good one, but DANG!)

  • MaddMedic
  • Natalie Anderson

    hate to say it, but when we have to hire again, it will be independant contractors…we can’t afford the new requirements….and I’m a small business

  • stop_the_damage_in_november

    The American sheeple now reap the rewards of having the government they deserve. God help us all…..

  • Bill Gordon

    This is what people wanted, some of them. Here we go.

  • Tanker74

    Take that, Mitches.

    • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

      Stop stop stop… At LEAST spell it “Mittches,” or I keep thinking you’re talking about the kid from Real Genius.

      • Tanker74

        Sorry. How did Beyotchce spell it?

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          LOL.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jason.gurley.7 Jason Gurley

    General dynamics land is laying off 250

  • http://www.facebook.com/diann.gardner Diann Gardner

    so what I want to know is….. most of these companies knew this was going to happen, Locheed Martin agreed to withhold their announcement of a123,000 employee layoff BECAUSE the WH asked them to!!! They knew this on Oct, FIRST! For crying out loud!!!! Why the hell didnt they make sure it was national news???????????????// they could have done SOMETHING!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-R-Schneider/100004069066242 James R. Schneider

      Because the WH likely leaned on them with things like the threat of audits, contract reviews, etc. etc. etc. etc. You know, Chicago stuff.

  • Eric Rosenthal

    Hahahaha, I can’t wait till the next jobs report comes out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

    And shall we mention the coal miners doomed to the unemployment line??News said Obama’s EPA “czars” were scrambling with new “rules and regulations” on coal industry and coal fired power plants.They keep harping Gas is cheaper..but for how long?We’ve already had a taste of winter on the east coast……Will be like having 2 gas bills when all power plants have to switch to natural gas….

  • bbgunplinkplink

    Emperor Nerobama. Partying while America burns.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=753508460 Aldrin Cave

    To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction…

    Owebumass & his taxcare is here to stay and so the small business market is reacting with 4 choices…
    1) Keep employee count under 50/no expansion 2) Convert employees to
    part-time/less benefits 3) Layoff employees to get lean/no more jobs 4)
    End the business and quit/close the business….

    what’s worst is that the big companies also feel the same way, hence the massive layoffs we are seeing now

    if you read the taxcare law, there is a provision penalizing companies that don’t support their employees healthcare benefits to the tune of $2,500.00 per employee per year, if you are the company that pays about $14,000 for each employee healthcare benefit each year – where do you think you’ll save more money?

    have fun… you get what you voted for…. 😛

    • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

      Do you suppose all of us who will be losing our jobs and homes will be allowed to “camp out” in the empty business buildings? I suppose my house will be filled with those who voted for “change”….

    • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

      Do you suppose all of us who will be losing our jobs and homes will be allowed to “camp out” in the empty business buildings? I suppose my house will be filled with those who voted for “change”….

  • Discontentwliars

    Ok, is the plan to also destroy the market so nobody’s pension or savings will keep us alive? Dependance on those working is increasing exponentially. It’ll be a mess.

  • Tonja

    We knew this was going to happen. People need to pay attention to who they frickin’ vote for and why.

  • http://www.facebook.com/claude.parish Claude AndPam Parish

    There must be a way that this is Bush’s fault.

    • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

      Can’t we just blame Nixon for everything and call it a day?

  • Yanha

    I hope they only lay off Obama voters

  • Elaine Keenan

    The people voted oh well deal with it

  • http://twitter.com/ashcheeps Ashley

    Add Micron to the list. My husband lost his job today, along with 60 others.

    • nc

      I’m so sorry to hear that. Hope he finds new work soon.

    • YeahWeWill

      This is shocking, and yet not. My condolences:(

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GOKYFGXUYAI7YAFZDHIRKRXICU gary

    He will continue to blame BUSH, Congress, The Tea Party, climate change, or whoever disagrees with HIS WAY

    • SouthernMystery

      You left out his most recent scapegoat … blame it on a YouTube video!

  • http://twitter.com/moreDemanding AnonyB

    Is this string a joke? All of these examples are previously considered management moves. Typical stuff to boost Q4 profits with shameless short-sighted cost cutting. It has nothing to do with Obamacare or the elections; more likely to do with Europe and coming down off the QE3 sugar high. Ugh… this kind of retarded rhetoric is how we got to where we are now. Pathetic.

    • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

      If you feel the same in 3 years, then you are a genius.

      I honestly hope the worry is wrong.
      I honestly would be happy if it were.

    • Ralph Moore

      These are to avoid having to provide health care…I have the “jpy” of being in the meetings when my bosses discuss eliminating jobs and reducing 75% of the remaining workers to part-time status.

  • http://eolsurvivalguide.com/ Doug Seubert

    i had to lay myself off too. my small business closed wedneday.

    • YeahWeWill

      That is what I fear. Best to do it now or wait til 2013. Shiat!!!

  • MIKE

    Never fear the POTUS will assure the sheep that all is well that he is going to take care of them,,

    • http://www.facebook.com/perduekate Sandra Perdue

      And afterward..he’ll walk on water

  • BobSmith77

    Let’s pick a random hodge-podge of companies and say the job cuts are due to Obama. Ugh. A recession was baked into the cards next year regardless if anyone would pay attention to the global numbers.

    Just take the list of companies on here. Pepsi has been run into the ground, been losing huge market share in the US and Europe, and struggled badly with their investments in the BRICs especially India. RIM’s cuts are because they are a dog$hit company who made several huge screwups in regards to their mobile investment and now Blackberry is dying a slow death.

    Companies like Boeing and Lockheed Martin and Hawker Beechcraft are cutting because of the scheduled defense sequestration cuts (which we almost certainly won’t see) Jan. 1st. Defense along with other areas needs to be cut in order to get the deficit anywhere near a sustainable level. These companies are sucked on the gov’t defense tit since the start of the Iraq war & that gravy train is coming to an end one way or another.

    • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

      Just to humor you…

      If you still think this in 3 years, then you are a genius.

      I honestly hope that the worried people are wrong.
      I WANT us to be wrong.
      I honestly would be happy to be wrong.

      • BobSmith77

        Obama/Romney was going to change ECB policy how exactly or prevent an unexpected meltdown in China?

        Sometimes I amazed at how dumb and basically ignorant most Americans are on economic news and just how interconnected our economy has become even since ’00 (right or wrong).

        • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

          So, I allow that you may prove yourself a genius if you end up being right, and you decide to call me dumb and ignorant by making assumptions about my knowledge or education?

          You’re head is stuck so far up your ass, no wonder you can’t see the light. There’s no point in being so brilliantly educated if you can’t take a step back and see the big picture once in a while.

          Your solution to neither candidate being the perfect savior that you seem to think is necessary in order to EARN your vote is to simply not do anything.

          Vote for neither option ‘cuz you don’t like them.
          Argue with people that give a shit about a whole bunch of shit that doesn’t mean a shit.
          Dangle your edumacation, trying to convince everyone you’re right and they are wrong and offering not a single solution.

          Well. That’ll solve a lot, sure.

          Inaction FTW!

          • BobSmith77

            You vote how often? I have been trying to change the system including open up the closed primaries in PA. Its an uphill battle to say the least but a starting place. Also involved locally because I can organize people locally to affect change at the local level.

            You rip on people who disagree with you and vote straight GOP ticket I bet everytime regardless of the candidate or office. Your a huge part of the problem as a result as much on the left vote straight ticket Democratic everytime.

          • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

            <– not a Republican, not male, not white, not over 40, not pro-life, not Christian, not anti-gay, not an idiot, and not a hater. Oh, and not a straight-ticket voter.

            Though you won't believe me, I voted each race individually, including races for President, Governor, Senator, State Rep, State Treasurer, State everything (it was endless), school board, etc. I had to have a cheat sheet to remember everyone's names. I researched every candidate and decided how close each one came to my personal beliefs and then I thought about which ones would be the best in the job. I even researched what I could about the judges that were up for consideration and their major decisions.

            I don't rip on people that disagree because they disagree. I rip on people that spout nonsense to make arguments, especially the ones like you that appear to argue just to be right and offer absolutely no viable solutions to the problems we are facing. Generally, those people I disagree with, but mostly it's because they are uninformed.

            You, on the other hand, appear to have a brain that functions and appear to be informed, yet you intentionally did not vote for "either guy" and washed your hands of the situation. You didn't even vote for Gary Johnson as a backup. You knew what was coming. Even if you actually believe that Romney would be "just as bad," by your inaction, you effectively contributed to Obama's reelection.

            I guess I don't get why you would allow someone that you absolutely KNOW is bad to get reelected when there is someone who has a high-functioning brain as another viable option. Don't vote for either, effectively repeating the known BAD and not allowing the unknown a chance.

            Logically, that only makes sense if you thought Romney would have been worse.

          • BobSmith77

            These were the two worst presidential candidates of my life and yeah I refused to vote for either one. Romney’s budget in terms of being realistic was as full of crap as Obama’s. Period. It was sad/hilarious to basically see Romney just change his position on the tax cuts he had ran on for months. Supply-siders who advocate running large-scale deficits are as bad as the Democrats who want to just increase marginal income tax rates and spend more.

            Why can’t you see past this false rubric? American populace is just as much as part of the problem and yeah I refused to give my vote to either of these candidates. My choice.

            Simple reality is that Americans want a level of gov’t and benefits that they don’t remotely want to pay for including Medicare, Medicaid, and a massive defense bill.

            Frankly I think America is screwed and the comments on this page only reaffirm my belief that most of the rank and file on both sides vote are incredibly poorly-informed/misinformed and vote straight ticket (even the independents). We either loosen the shackles of the current closed 2-party current system or we go down in flames.

            Sadly I do think it will be a disaster (economically and likely before the end of the decade) before we see real change because both parties are beholden to large moneyed interests that dominate their positions and limited their flexibility.

            As a result, I am taking my own precautions. I remain a large cash supply at home, have been investing in gold/silver coins along with gold jewelry, investing in precious jems (go annually down to South American through Brazil and buy/sell jems on Rapnet with a large interest the past year in emeralds and colored-stones), and look to buy rental properties close to me that I can invest sweat equity to that have good construction/strong public transport & highway access with a stable mix of employers near buy, and will return at least 6-8% ROI on rental stream income immediately after I purchase the property. Shit may hit the fan and I may even lose a high-paying job I have but I have been taking precautions since ’08 economically & have always kept a low-debt level including having almost all of my education paid for through scholarships or funding. No worries about covering my monthly expenses with rental stream income and can hunker down

  • FluxLines

    Philips & Siemens each layoff 7,000-8,000 worldwide. Obamacare to Tax Medical divisions of these companies 2.5% tax on ANY device sold.

  • $22639970

    Note to companies: Fire the Obamanoids FIRST.

  • Elaine Keenan

    I know someone who just sold a small business and they are leaving US.

  • http://twitter.com/bocaharmon Chris Harmon

    Canon Job Cuts Hit Trumbull’s Océ Operations
    http://iurl.no/tDl

  • Joms Jimenez

    Start firing those who have Obama stickers on their car. You deserve the government you elected. Welcome to reality!

  • http://www.facebook.com/vincent.nylin Vincent Nylin

    Mark Steyn called it.

  • FluxLines

    I’m going to start selling wheelbarrows, since more people will be in them than pulling them. We will need more, the only problem is they won’t need wheels cause there won’t be enough people to pull them anyway.

  • John P. Sullivan

    Don’t blame me folks. I voted for Mitt Romney.

    • YeahWeWill

      Me 2

  • Canadian87

    If you voted for Obama,
    1. You got fire, you deserved it.
    or 2. You are not given more free money, foodstamps in a year, it’s because we can’t afford your poor ass anymore.
    3. You can’t afford to pay for Obamacare, you voted for it, you pay for it.

    If you voted for Obama, you get what you deserve. (Santa Clause doesn’t have an infinite amount of money in his bag, sorry minorities, you didn’t think it through.)

  • George Gaither

    This is what the wanted, now they will learn to live with it.

  • Christy Waters

    Obama supporters deserve to walk the plank first. This is what they wanted, after all.

  • Bullethead

    Obama is the master of the big lie. All of the problems with the economy when Obama took office were created by the Dem house and the bills Obama voted on during last 2 years of Bush”s presidency. He won by blaming it on Bush. Obama will blame the many thousands of layoffs on the Republicans and not the new taxes and Obamacare. I bet 51% of the people will believe it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/edd.campbell.5 Edd Campbell

    Don’t forget, he (Obama) guaranteed federal dollars to cover legal fees for not making the 90-day warnings before the election.

  • http://www.facebook.com/amity.davidson Amity Davidson

    I just want to add to the list as well Raytheon in Camden Ar just laid off. My husband worked there 13 almost 14 years is now laid off. Also heard other defense plants in our area are laying off as well. Thank you so much Obama and America. But my family will be ok we have God and we have taken Glenn Becks advice and we have been preparing for this for a bit now and we don’t have that much debt and we live with in our means. Government take notice we don’t charge to a card and we don’t exspect government to help us out. We take personal responsiblity and we live with in our BUDGET.

  • disqus_YcJ6bGgQM4

    First off, a lot of small business owners are not educated on Obamacare. If they actually read the law, they would know that businesses that have 25 or less full time employees get Tax Credits, Grants, Exemptions, “SHOP Exchange”, and more. And honestly if they don’t care enough about their employees to read, understand, and implament these advantages, then they kinda deserve to fail. As for the big coporations I think they are doing it out of spite. This week is no different than 1 year ago, and maybe the big cats’ pocket isnt lined as deep, but I’m sure they’ll get away with just one Porche this year. They are only punishing their employees, and shame on them.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448359974 Forest Miller

      Oh, they know. And why should they use the 25-and under perks when they’re exempt if they employ fewer than 50 employees? Just don’t buy insurance, make everyone part-time or lay a bunch of people off and save a boatload of money.

  • mkreider

    This should not be a shock to anyone. Ben Bernanke is still printing money folks and someone is still buying our debt – for now. To anyone that voted for Obama and to a lay off notice….I will not go there…It will continue with other defense contractors, medium sized businesses and small businesses..

    • Gonnabowlnow

      The Federal Reserve is buying our debt,we are broke and the Chinese aren’t buying anymore burning paper,just gold and silver.

  • Stacey Roberts

    The only people that will be able to afford food will be on food stamps…we are all in a world of hurt from the liar in chief.

  • TCarrington

    Energizer Holdings (batteries, Schick razors, Playtex, Hawaiian Tropic etc.) announced this PM a 10% reduction in workforce, including 1500 layoffs and two US plant closures. Obama’s new economy. He owns it.

  • Bill Gordon

    A business in Greensboro N.C. is closing by the end of 2013 laying off over 600 people. Some jobs going to China.

  • Aine

    My husband’s division in a major company was dissolved a year ago. He’s still looking for work. This isn’t going to be easy…

  • texan59

    Every one of these companies needs to have an avalanche of phone calls excoriating them for doing this the day after the election. Each of them is just as guilty as the media for this cover up. I don’t think the CEO’s woke up Wednesday morning and thought this would be a good idea. I can assure you, I will not be buying any Cat dozers anytime soon.

    • Concerned

      You don’t think it could be their response to the terrible choice made by Americans? They may have stuck through what was already bad if they new things were going to get better. Now that they know it will only get worse they are done hanging on.

      • Concerned

        Just an idea. They may have been going to lay people off either way and your point may be true.

  • http://www.irregulars.us/ towerclimber37

    In the classic words of @siftyboones “let it burn”

  • KBS2011

    Did I hear correctly that bho is on his way to Thailand? Didn’t take him long to boogy out on leading the country, did it?

    • Jim Denney

      Burma 1st, he’s looking for advice on the economy and healthcare;

      “Burma is a resource-rich country. However the Burmese economy is one of the least developed in the world. Burma’s GDP stands at $42.953 billion and grows at an average rate of 2.9% annually – the lowest rate of economic growth in the Greater Mekong Subregion.[10] Among others, the EU, United States and Canada have imposed economic sanctions on Burma.[11]

      Burma’s health care system is one of the worst in the world: The World Health Organization ranked Burma at 190th, the worst performing of all countries.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burma

    • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

      /facepalm

      Fiscal cliff countdown is at what, 52 days? And he jets off to Burma.

  • http://www.preciseNews.us/ Steven_W

    Obama made a lot of promises again this time around. He said that 10:1 spending cuts to tax increases was a good deal. He said he wanted to cut spending (of course he didn’t mean cuts in rate of growth! Get the transcript, Candy!). Let all the tax cuts expire. The payroll tax will be back on the table so get meaningful reform of social security. Then get tax reform in exchange for the Buffet Rule and spread the base so that more of the 47% start getting some skin in the game!

  • BobSmith77

    The issue is that both guys were running on economic messages that were complete and utter BS. Romney refused to provide even the most basic details on what he would cut, was going to pass tax cuts that even surpassed the Bush tax cuts, and wanted a massive increase in defense spending without saying how we would pay for it. Obama wants to increase tax rates on high income earners but refuses to state what he will cut in order to get the financial deficit on a manageable scale.

    I didn’t even vote for a presidental candidate this year for the first time in my adult life as a result. Reality is that we need something beyond even the scale of Simpson-Bowles to get anywhere near a fiscal stable position and we need it immediately. Try running on a message though in America where you have to take things away from just about everyone. Both these clowns were promising all kinds of goodies to their constituents which simply aren’t remotely fiscally possible.

  • http://twitter.com/hackeysack415 Manfred Moore

    Hey folks, we all have our panties in a wad !! The Electoral College has NOT voted. Keep up the fuss until they do and maybe , just maybe, they will say …..NAH… Romney wins. Won’t be the first time that the popular vote didn’t swing it. If they do confirm obama, just go ahead and drop them panties and bend over !!

  • BobSmith77

    Given how these comments are start to repeat with almost the same thing or the same thing, I would venture to guess there are at least 2-3 bots posting here.

    • PatriotOne

      By the looks of the up & down votes, YOU’RE A LOSER!!! Bots can’t tell up or down votes, moron

  • dareisay

    We tried to tell the left lug nuts what would happen, but no they thought they were so enlightened and the smartest in the room.

    I can only hope it is mostly these that are the ones losing their jobs!

  • Lynne Zimmermann

    Truly terrifying and so predictable. what do you expect from a loser, bigoted, socialist like BHO. we should all be very afraid

  • Doubleace

    BobSmith77 sounds like the chairman of the the Obama propaganda machine.

    • BobSmith77

      Voted for him in ’08. Left the presidental slot blank on my ballot this year in PA. Both of these guys were terrible candidates promising a bunch of crap that was remotely possible fiscally.

      Yeah I despise/dislike most of the social positions of the GOP party platform right now and their ridiculous opposition to any decriminalization of drugs or prostitution even though both are clear policy failures with other nations showing that different policies have better results.

      If you gave me a fiscally conservative party that was socially liberally and want to reign in the American Empire and our global military adventurism, I would vote for this candidate in a heartbeat. Too bad we just don’t have it and the closest one right now is the Libertarian Party. Just go a little too far on a couple of issues for me but I would have voted for Gary Johnson instead of Romney or Obama.

      • http://www.facebook.com/healthnut1 Fernande M Rivers

        And you are just another person helping the fast and furious demise of our country and PA in particular…We are so proud of you…Romney could have at the very least clean up some of the crap in DC….instead you chose not to help your own State….Doesn’t say much about you…except selfishness…

        • BobSmith77

          Romney was to going to really address the deficit how? I can’t believe how stupid most Americans were to believe that either guy remotely had a credible budget stance on the budget. They didn’t.

          I voted and choose to participate in a local race that affected me where I did know the candidate personally & actively supported them. Who are you to call me selfish because I choose not to vote for either presidental candidate?

          The current two-party system we have with closed primaries that force you to vote for your registered party or be excluded if you don’t choose a party (not to mention all of the barriers to get on the ballot if you aren’t a GOP/Democrat) are strangling this country & in the process killing it.

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        A vote for Gary Johnson in this election is like stitching up the 1/2 cm cut on your ankle when your carotid artery is busy gushing out of its open wound.

  • pissonobama

    To use an old Toyota commercial line: “You asked for it, You got it, Obama!” Welcome to ‘Forward’ you stupid bastards!!! BTW -if you voted for him, STFU. You have nothing to say. Bend over and take it Dumbasses!!!

    • CalMum

      I love your tenacity! We can undo their stupidity… but we can make them choke on it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/faith.dunn2 Faith Dunn

        it would be nice to implement the drug testing on welfare…so many would end up on the street..lets see where there obama is then

  • sdz

    Is this the real collapse should I move Back to Canada? I have been here 2 years and no work.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448359974 Forest Miller

      Yes.

    • CommonSense033

      If you still have citizenship, yes.

      Canada doesn’t allow the flood of illegals the US does.

      • http://www.facebook.com/faith.dunn2 Faith Dunn

        canada is smarter than obama..we never here of finacial crisis with there economy

    • stuckinIL4now

      I’d go. In fact, I might go.

  • Phillip Graham

    Who is John Galt? Read “Read Atlas Shrugged.”

    • BobSmith77

      Crappy fiction of someone who felt jilted by the Russian Revolution and didn’t give to live out her life as an aristocratic upper-class Russian in St. Petersburg and who was a morally deficient person on many levels.

      Wanted to read good Russian literature there are several other authors you could choose from.

  • Doubleace

    BobSmith77 sounds like the chairman of the Obama propaganda machine. he avoids all facts, and spews garbage.

    • BobSmith77

      Another bot in action. There have been several comments on here repeated at least 3-4 times. Lame attempt to drive web site hits.

    • BobSmith77

      Here is some garbage – ‘The man posting above me has no dick’

  • Alex

    This website is a serious joke. Do people actually check the facts on these companies? I mean, you guys can even focus on your favorite news source Fox News and find many of these lays off were decided nearly a year ago and some have already been applied.
    These layoffs have absolutely nothing to do with the Health Care Act.
    Everyone here, please read the article below. You might actually learn something about the re-elected president. America is not becoming a Marxist nation or socialist for that matter.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/11/obama_the_moderate_republican_what_the_2012_election_should_teach_the_gop.html

    • Wayne Caviness

      Even so, I thought your President said that he had created jobs and the economy was coming back?
      The auto bailout at GM shipped more jobs overseas.
      The health care act is unconstitutional no matter how you look at it.
      I guess you think we should give up our guns as well….
      No I am not racist or a Romney supporter!

    • iandrews08

      so it’s just a coincidence this is all happening right after Obama was reelected?

    • Guest

      Yes it is becoming socialist and has been for sometime. You are drowning in your own Kool-Aid.

    • PatriotOne

      Yeah, we check our facts, the REAL question is..DO YOU check what’s going on around you? Or do you just walk around with your eyes & ears closed, that’s what I believe you do

  • WayneH

    If you take a small cube of plutonium and put it over a bunsen burner, it will slowly send lovely atoms of plutonium into the air to waft gently on any passing breeze until it settles in your lungs or on your skin. This will inevitably cause cancer and you will die. I learned this in 11th grade chemistry many years ago. Sooooo, you don’t need a bomb or missile. you don’t even need a fissionable mass. And any radioactive substance will do. SImple, deadly, and a Weapon of Mass Destruction without even making a noise.

    • BobSmith77

      I learned when I was 3 or 4 that if you put your hand on a burner your will have a serious burn. What is your point exactly?

  • BobSmith77

    Bots, bots everywhere. Noticed that they really have come to dominate a ton of discussion forums in a lame attempt to drive web sites hits.

  • BobSmith77

    Bot bot bot

  • GwenB

    I hope every single person that is laid off voted for obamaclause

    • BobSmith77

      Santa is Black now?!!

      • GwenB

        Dat he be

      • AZ Schumi

        HALF

  • Cat Bartlett

    A press conference with no press corps. Love it. :(

  • Chuck Guyson

    people are so stupid they got what they voted for it’s gonna be in USA third world country by the time Obama gets done barely any military left so in debt no jobs gasoline 6 dollars a gallon he’s been signing so many bills by himself behind congress back to get what he wants and that’s the take over the country thanks for voting for another Hitler in our country

    • YeahWeWill

      His goal will be achieved

    • BobSmith77

      Says the kettle to the pot . . .

  • iandrews08

    That 7. whatever unemployment rate before the election was very misleading.

  • crooked wren

    And my husband, a freelance illustr., just had jobs fall through (and a few “pushed back” which means they will likely disappear). How we’re going to make through the winter, I don’t know. We worked for Romney as best we could. Useful idiots have hurt us — and themselves — so badly.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448359974 Forest Miller

      I had two clients cancel yesterday. Two in one day. Yeah, it’s a little frightening.

      • crooked wren

        Take Care of yourself, Forest. God Bless. Will Keep you in our prayers. It’s going to be a cruel lesson for the Left. Just wish we didn’t have to suffer for their ignorance, blindness, stupidity, and cupidity.

    • Silenttype78

      God bless.

      You know, you are right.

      “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”
      ― Alexis de Tocqueville

  • Ken Woodruff

    I have a small company, but I cut 20% of my employees loose on Wednesday morning. He isn’t taking me down without a fight.

  • britain

    Elections have consequences bitches. Time for Hollywood to pay up.

    • CalMum

      The entire entertainment industry needs to shut the eff up. I will pay a cable bill because I want to be online and informed… but no more netflix, xfinity rental fees, no movie passes, no more cd’s, downloads – unless free. Commerce is down at my house, in a big way! Sorry – I know it will hurt good people – but how can we get across this is a major eff up without taking a stand.

      • PatriotOne

        That’s exactly right, CalMum, we HAVE TO make a stand and this is the way to do it. Stop supporting them in ANY way. You may not like it but it will send a message.

  • CalMum

    the role of media in this election is pretty disgusting… any ideas how to make them go away…

    • Mickey James

      Quit buying their papers quit watching the tube, quit buying their bullsh!t

    • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

      Well, O wants and will–get rid of Fox. So, after awhile of only listening to the liberal media, you will just be as brainwashed as all those who voted for him…and so it won’t matter anymore!

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        I love how they were not invited to the conference call about Benghazi and were conveniently “left off the list” for other briefings. That’s just so ridiculous. But no one will know because Fox is the only one that talks about the stuff they don’t want anyone to know.

        edited to add: Hey @bobsmith77, anything to say about FoxNew being repeatedly kept out of otherwise media-wide conference calls and briefings? I bet you MTV was there (snort)!

    • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

      Well, O wants and will–get rid of Fox. So, after awhile of only listening to the liberal media, you will just be as brainwashed as all those who voted for him…and so it won’t matter anymore!

    • Guest

      Don’t listen to them. Watch none of their networks television programs, unsubscribe to newspapers, don’t comment on liberal Internet sites.

  • disqus_ahtc0JSDBa

    Hello Comrades . and Welcome to Obamaland

  • Rahn

    Wow from lay-offs to bombing Iran. A little all over the place with very few actual facts in place.

  • Barbara Wilde

    The day after the election, the stock market drops, co’s are laying off workers. I envisioned that when Romney won, they would start making plans to drill, drill and dig, dig and build baby build. We are retired, but our lives are intertwined with the economy of this country. Our children and grandchildren are going to have a much worse life. Obama’s plans include making it so hard for businesses to survive and hard for them to make future plans because they don’t know when the next ‘shoe’ will drop with another rule or regulation. I know that I’m not saying anything new, but I really had a dream that when Romney became president, things would turn around, and employment in energy and construction would beget employment in all sectors, which would bring in more tax dollars.
    I’m beginning to think that we should take our hard-earned money and move to another country where hard work, entrepreneurship could make the country we dream about. Of course the dems would hear about people emigrating and they would make a law that no one could take their money out of the country. The ruling class in our country will take everything and redistribute it to their cronies and we will be screwed

    The Obama admin is ruining our health care and mandating that we, the peons, must be insured with Obamacare. However, the friends and donors to the prez have already gotten waivers so they won’t have to follow the rules.

    • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

      The Gov’t. already has passed laws regarding your money being taken out of the country!!! When I work out of this country, and earn money there, I have to leave it there…..and O is trying to get taxes on that, too, just because I am an American citizen!!! Only way out is to denounce your U.S. citizenship!! You’re never going to get another chance to vote again, anyway…so this way you won’t have to pay taxes…We’d be just like the “illegal aliens” that O feeds and supports! Oh, NOW I understand!!! And…we just might get a bunch of “freebies”…like healthcare…that we couldnot afford when we were employed! Ironic!

    • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

      The Gov’t. already has passed laws regarding your money being taken out of the country!!! When I work out of this country, and earn money there, I have to leave it there…..and O is trying to get taxes on that, too, just because I am an American citizen!!! Only way out is to denounce your U.S. citizenship!! You’re never going to get another chance to vote again, anyway…so this way you won’t have to pay taxes…We’d be just like the “illegal aliens” that O feeds and supports! Oh, NOW I understand!!! And…we just might get a bunch of “freebies”…like healthcare…that we couldnot afford when we were employed! Ironic!

  • TexasHawk

    Maybe that is why the HHS and social security bought all those millions of rounds of ammunition. Brown shirts anyone?

  • TexasHawk

    Maybe that is why the HHS and social security bought all those millions of rounds of ammunition. Brown shirts anyone?

  • http://twitter.com/NULLZERO1 NULLZERO

    will you people ever stop thinking crazy thoughts?

  • http://twitter.com/NULLZERO1 NULLZERO

    will you people ever stop thinking crazy thoughts?

  • William Prince

    The irony of this is that some have a seated member on Obama’s jobs creation panel.

  • William Prince

    The irony of this is that some have a seated member on Obama’s jobs creation panel.

  • Getreal

    Barackalypse Now!

  • David

    Why did people vote for him??!?!!? That was our chance to get rid of him…now, look what they’ve done…we are in for a bad time…yes, I am TERRIFIED

    • http://www.oligula.com/ Emperor Oligula

      Question is why did 3 million McCain supprters not vote Romney?? Dumber than minions!

  • Tequila

    Add AGC Glass, they make solar panels. Layoffs equal 70 people. http://www.11alive.com/news/article/263481/29/Glass-maker-AGC-closing-Kingsport-plant

  • Tequila

    American Suzuki Motor says it decided to exit the car business because
    of slow sales, unfavorable foreign exchange rates and high costs due to
    U.S. regulatory requirements.http://www.11alive.com/news/article/263221/29/American-Suzuki-files-for-bankruptcy-protection

  • Jaynie59

    I’m planning my own layoff. I’m going to layoff myself.
    I’m a retiree who is working for a company that will probably have a round of layoffs in the 1st quarter next year. I’m going to volunteer for it. Then I’m going to withdraw enough money from my pension to live on for 3 years. I’ll put it in a non-interest bearing checking account and use it to live on for 2014, 2015, and 2016.
    No income, no income tax return to file, which means they can’t make me pay the penalty/tax for not having health insurance. Which I will cancel in 2013. I won’t need it.
    This government will not get one dime of my money from 2014 to 2016. Not unless they pass a law to tax money in checking accounts.

    • Just Another Guy

      I know how you feel….but I’m betting they will go after our 401k and other retirement investments first.

      • Jaynie59

        Here’s how I look at it. Rush had a caller last week or the week before who said something like “if you don’t spend your money your heirs will”. Then I remembered a video I saw on YouTube of Milton Friedman on the Phil Donahue show back in the 70’s where an audience member asked him how the average consumer could guard against inflation. He said you can’t. He said the only thing you can do is spend your money on things to make your life better now because holding on to money in periods of inflation just makes you lose money because the value of the things you can buy with it goes down over time. So spend your money.
        That’s what I’m going to do.

  • Frank Wright

    Those are all public sector jobs with greedy corporations. They don’t do count. We need to make more solar panels—until China loans us enough money to buy them cheaper from them. If we would only educate our people, all of those jobs will come rushing back. Remember comrades, we do not achieve anything without government. FORWARD!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/Alex.Rodr1guez Alex Rodriguez

    So sad! And these people will most likely be added to the food stamp, unemployment check crowd. Is it by design?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Y5QHCRSDDCTMMW3Q32N7IPOQW4 Mike

      Yes, it’s by design, to get more people dependent on government. More dependance = more democrat voters. We’re finished.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Alex.Rodr1guez Alex Rodriguez

    To think I came to this country running from things like these! Where to next? New Zealand? I really like my summers on June-August!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4T74Z22EI6YP6HRUDBMFKLFOJU JonInVa

    Obama doesn’t do press conferences for months and now we’ll never be able to shut him up. He’ll be yapping every chance he gets. What a poser.

    • Buster

      He’s now doing press conferences, but its only him talking. He then walks away instead of taking questions. Arrogant stupid prick.

  • Michael Anderson

    Point 1: Small companies employ 50% of the private sector’s workforce, and pay 44% of the private sector’s wages.

    Point 2: Given that Obamacare will not be overturned, small companies are seeing their employee costs increase by about 25% on average and therefore are having to reduce their employees by an average of 25%.

    Point 3: The government employs roughly 25% of the nation’s workforce, the private sector employs 75%.

    Conclusion: Unemployment numbers will jump by (BY not TO) 9.4% in the next two months. (50% x 75% x 25% = 9.4%)

  • Donald Duck

    Nobody should be “entitled “to have a successful business.

    If those businesses can’t compete (like Romney), they should lay those folks off so that those employees can start collecting benefits sooner.

  • Okieflyover

    I guess these are bush’s fault too. What is not being reported are the companies that are dropping healthcare. E.g, Sears. 80,000 employees just went on govt healthcare. Oops, maybe they didn’t know yet. My bad.

  • usfree

    Have you ever noticed that when POTUS speaks, all the words always sound the same, Derka,Derka,Derka? Put your tongue to the roof of your mouth when you say the words.

  • Donald Duck

    These companies were probably failing anyhow because of incompetent management and were waiting until after the election to lay blame on someone else.

    Those employees will find new jobs with companies that are run better now that the economy is improving.

    It’s natural selection. Those companies that are weak and frail must be allowed to perish.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448359974 Forest Miller

      Boeing was failing because of incompetent management? Right. Ok.

    • Silenttype78

      Incompetent Management: What union workers say when they are given layoff notices.

    • Silence Dogood

      Really? PEPSICO failing? better check your numbers again pal before you make a bigger fool of yourself.

  • lickystick

    In other news, Smith & Wesson’s stock has risen 13% in the past two days.

    • Donald Duck

      Yes, I should be buying because all those emotional rednecks. Emotional rednecks make other folks rich.

      LMFAO

  • Joe_E_in_the_IE

    In the past four years, the challenge for unemployed mature American citizens who never abused illicit drugs and who don’t have felony criminal records was finding work in a job market where employers reap generous tax benefits for hiring certain foreign nationals, “at risk” youth, drug addicts and convicted felons.

    For those who succeeded in spite of this administration’s best efforts, the challenge in the next four years will be keeping a job.

  • disqus_LASIg6epmj

    How’s that hope and change leaning Forward! working out, America?

    • http://www.oligula.com/ Emperor Oligula

      Sux to be you, Real Americans. Sux to be my minion too but they’re too stupid to realize it yet.

  • Neumainer

    Timken Roller Bearing Company in Ohio announced layoffs too.

    • BenDoverPls

      Ohio is getting what they deserve.

      They can say goodbye to Jeep as well.

  • Kevin Underwood

    “Experts” are now saying that regardless of whether the government is able to stop sequestration, which I do NOT believe they will, between 700,000 and 1.5 Million jobs will be lost in the opening days of 2013. Sequestion will go through because the Osama administration has no intention of moving to the middle. They look at this win as a mandate by the people to raise taxes and will use the fiscal cliff to beat on the republicans. The house has already said they will not follow through on his mandate. Sequestration, Bush Taxes Cuts and the looming Obamacare taxes will destroy any remaining opportunities for businesses to expand. Folks this all goes into effect on 1 JAN 2013. If you aren’t scared you obviously don’t know enough about what is about to happen. READ, ARM YOURSELF WITH KNOWLEDGE, THE SHIT IS ABOUT TO HIT THE FAN!

    • subhuman659

      I think we need to arm with more than just knowledge.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448359974 Forest Miller

      Add to that the hyperinflation from the never-ending QE3 and we’re doomed.

  • Tootie MCGee

    My dad just got layed off this morning. Thanks Obamabots. Well maybe he can get
    him a free Obamaphone now. It’s all good

    • Donald Duck

      Go tell him to finish the 8th grade so that he can get a better job.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448359974 Forest Miller

        Um, he very clearly stated that the relative is a female. I think high schools offer remedial reading classes.

      • Karin_A

        You’re kind of a prick, aren’t you?

    • http://twitter.com/Dishanu Zanne C.

      Yeah, I’m waiting to hear from at least one relative that she’s been laid off (again). She’s been working as a manager in retail for over a decade and in the past three years the stores go under so fast, she’s basically been moving from store to store on a yearly basis because people can’t afford to shop for non-essentials anymore. This last one’s been running on a skeleton crew for a half-year, trying to keep afloat and outlast the tanking economy… Oh wait, correction: it’s trying to outlast the “recovering” economy.

    • BenDoverPls

      And watch Big Bird on “free” tv.

  • ProudlyUnaffiliated

    My biggest fear is not Obama’s random incompetence but his increasingly effective malice.

    • http://twitter.com/Rose215 Rose215

      Maybe I am wrong, but in my gut I have never trusted Obama I think he is not the person he presents himself to be, and I suspect that bringing America to its knees is what he has intended all along. I guess that makes me a conspiracy theorist, but sometimes conspiracies are actually out there. I simply cannot rid myself of this instinctive distrust. People scoffed at Trump, and his methods may be crude, but I think he was bang on re the issue he highlight. We really do not know who Obama is.

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        Look up Valerie Jarrett. I mean, look up the facts and indisputable quotes. She pretty much became a surrogate mother figure for Obama, helped along by the fact that, from what I can gather, she is also mixed-race black. She is currently a senior adviser to the President and, according to some sources, is secretly in talks with the Iranian government. I think her only real qualification for negotiations with Iran is the fact that she was born, to American parents, in Iran.

        I’ll shut up now, just in case I’ve been pinged. :)

  • Sean_Alexander

    People in this country voted for free stuff. Now we all will find put the cost of free.
    You are now free to lose your job, most likely your home, and you are free to go hungry.
    But you can get a free Obama phone to call your local congress critter and cry.
    This will be especially useful when the consequences of spending $4 billion dollars a day wipes out what your food stamps used to be able to purchase.
    Dependocrats will now start to demonize those that still have jobs as somehow being at fault for all those that don’t. And as long as the upstanding dumb ass dependocrat supporters, as shown via twitter postings, are told it is anyones fault other than theirs for their lot in life, it will continue.
    As for all the ladies that voted for free contraception, how do those taste on rye with some mustard?

    • http://www.oligula.com/ Emperor Oligula

      Dependocrats. You need to put that on a bumper sticker!

  • bob manning

    It is so scary; closes AFG here yesterday and exide just announced layoffs of 176

  • Kathleen

    It makes me wonder if all the starry-eyed, ‘give me’ generation who voted for him are even paying attention to this. I would venture to guess they aren’t, they’ve gone back to their dorms, bongs, mommy and daddy’s basement and back to their video games, convinced they’ve just voted themselves a free ride. And who knows, maybe they’ve done just that.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448359974 Forest Miller

      How? How will they get a free ride? Nothing is free and somebody else will have to pay for their ride. What if those that pay are unwilling or unable to do so?

    • http://www.oligula.com/ Emperor Oligula

      The wisdom of fools. Count on it. I do.

    • Fred

      They just voted themselves a free ride into oblivion. That’s where this train stops.

  • Scott Stroup

    Who cares anyway? The people have spoken: DOWN WITH THE USA!!!

    • http://www.oligula.com/ Emperor Oligula

      Now you’re getting it.

  • Will

    I don’t know about anyone else but I am greatly distressed and saddened that we will very shortly no longer be a superpower. I will miss that status immensely! And yes Cynthia…I am terrified!

  • billstu

    If you people are mad … the only ones to blame are people like Charlie Kaye for not doing there job by suppressing information that would have defeated Obama … Its time to make these type of people uncomfortable … The Tea Party was to kind … its time to get mean …

    • http://www.oligula.com/ Emperor Oligula

      Information defeat me? Get real! You want to get mean, find every way you can to stop supporting my mooching minions. They’ll keep voting for me even after I’ve cooked and eaten their mothers, in front of them!

      • Fred

        Sad but true!

  • http://twitter.com/Ezekial317 TheWatchman

    Welcome to Barakistan a Nation of sorrow. This time we were warned and we will pay for our sins.

  • Clark Simpson

    Layoffs don’t matter to the 47%. They just care that those welfare checks keep coming and they get their free shit.

  • Morgan Mundane

    Terrified. I think the average jo, who is non union, is going to be shell shocked when they see what their health care costs are going to be. I read that some health care companies have already notified their insureds to expect a 30% increase before the end of the year.
    To put this in prospective, when I retired my health care costs, not borne by the employer, even though I was a union state employee, costs $1650 per month and that was three years ago.
    All I can do is warn people, do not buy and big ticket items and think about selling any that you owe money on. Unless of course you can afford two to three thousand a month in insurance. Its coming.

  • AZ Schumi

    HOPEfully there are 1.3 million available talk show spots on MSLSD for all of you SUCKERS that voted for the Kenyan Klown

  • Just Another Guy

    I’m closing my side business of 8 years effective Dec 15. Six employees will no longer be employed. Five got letters of recommendation. The sixth advocated and voted for Obama, so I can’t recommend a fool to any other employer.

    Governments lose around $85,000 I spent yearly for taxes, fees, licenses, etc., just to have a business.

    Companies that my business purchased goods and services from this year will not be getting any orders from me anymore. Their sales will drop.

    I know I’m under the 50 threshold, but I’m just not willing to support the moochers anymore.

    I’ll just do my “primary” job … 32 weeks a year ; 16 hours a week. Benefits and decent paycheck that will just

    But I’m done working my tail off trying to build a business and contributing to the economy. The rewards are no longer there.

    And I know I’m not the only one who has made that assessment and that decision.

    It will be a sad day next year when those that know I voted “Not Obama” come up to me and say “You know, you were right. I’m sorry I didn’t listen to you.” No joy in that vindication.

    Should be interesting to see what the unemployment report is next month and in January…and how they “fixed” to make Obama look good.

    I just hope the Repubs in office have the stones to keep to bright lines in the sand. Reid said he wouldn’t work with Romney…they should put that back in his face every time he says that they need to compromise.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448359974 Forest Miller

      Taxes and immigration reform are on the table. More crap to break the back of the average American worker.

  • Lynn

    I know this is going to sound heartless and I don’t mean it to be, as I as well lost my job. But to all those that voted for Obama, because you chose Color and played the election like it was a race issue, I hope your the first one’s with the pInk slip.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000482768680 Francine Bowman

    Bottom line. Those who voted for Obama voted for debt and deficits as far as the eye can see just so Obama can give candy to those who feel the rest of us owe them something.

    You have taken any rosy future from my children and your own so that you could pat yourself on the back and say “See I’m not racist” In fact, you are. You elected a man who has overseen unemployment rates historically high for minorities. He ignored African Americans because he knew they would vote for him again regardless. He also chose to eliminate vouchers where they existed and condemn all inner city kids of all persuasions so he could payoff his Union leeches. Now children all over the US in these inner cities are condemned to attend lousy schools who put the Union teachers above a quality education for children.

    You are the worst kind of racists.

    You screwed with my family so I will work everyday to punish any business or person I know who is an Obama supporter. I will never donate to any cause that comes from a blue state. I will not purchase a product that comes from a blue state. Hollywood is tops on my list. I’ll pirate or do without. I will not buy an American made vehicle unless it’s a Toyota. I will do everything I can to avoid any taxes or fines in relation to Obamacare.

    I don’t stand alone.

    Elections do have consequences.

    • Hiraghm

      Ragnar Danneskjöld

    • Karin_A

      I just found out one of my tenants voted for Obama. I’m going to have to raise the rent to pay for Obamacare. Too bad.

  • Guest

    Perhaps soon– Slaves to the government will revolt!

  • Jake Matthews

    I would highly recommend anyone who wants to communicate with people get an Amateur Radio license and a couple of Ham radios. It’s not too expensive to do and when Cesar Obama takes down the cell towers and the internet Ham Radios will still work.

  • Black Sabbath

    All business owners should atleast layoff 1 Obama voter even if they need them. Then hire a true American.

    • Hiraghm

      They couldn’t staff the (cough) Buy-n-Large (cough) where I work if they did that…

  • http://www.awinninghabit.com lissa

    Anybody wonder if the J.J. Abrams “Revolution” is a glimpse into the very-near future..?

  • myleftone

    Idea: Maybe business leaders take responsibility instead of blaming others? Works both ways, y’know…

    • http://twitter.com/wenegne Tamara D. Clark

      or…maybe people start realizing that business owners do NOT have to keep their doors open, or hire anybody. maybe people start thinking about what will happen when they say ‘fuck it’, pull their money, retire early, create NO taxable event so the government can’t collect shit from them. think about that…think about who suffers then. cuz the horrible news out of the stock market? guess what? it’s starting….

      • Hiraghm

        “Going Galt” is more than just a catchphrase.

        • http://twitter.com/wenegne Tamara D. Clark

          yup…Atlas Shrugged is moving from fiction to reality

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448359974 Forest Miller

      Take responsibility for a failing economy brought about by failed policies? Right.

    • GoldenRudy

      Tom, you are aware that Sen Kerry’s wife, the Heinz ketchup widow, has her hundreds of millions in muni tax free bonds, aren’t you? That is why Johony-boy did not release his income tax forms in 2004.

  • VA7

    I certainly hope no one is surprised! Besides, that is what this administration wants, more people on the government dole. More people on the dole means more votes for them. Duh! Eventually there won’t be anymore dole to dole out thus Greece. Oh well, you get what you vote for.

  • Heartland Patriot

    “It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who
    cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide
    everything.”—Joseph Stalin

  • matt h

    this is how it starts i wonder what the unemployment rate will be by the end of the year….and here is the bigger issue we don’t have any money to support more people on government assistance…..

  • disqus_ILNBk01CdU

    Sadly, most of those laid off probably did not vote for the “Great Destroyer”

  • George Murrey

    Yup the people have spoken by re-electing the guy that has pushed all of us under the bus. Congrats are in order for all those that voted him in and now may be, or already have, lost your jobs.

  • disqus_ILNBk01CdU

    Haha, they think gun and ammo sales were up before the election, I bet they begin to skyrocket as people prepare for the next civil war. “Doomsdayers” don’t look all that crazy anymore

    • The Boogeyman

      I have my own arsenal, ready to hand out to friends.

    • http://www.facebook.com/faith.dunn2 Faith Dunn

      well where there is poverty there will be crime and yes it will probably get really bad

  • http://www.facebook.com/josh.suire Josh Suire

    We r screwed now i just dont see that how obama won with over 2 million less votes than romney and our troops votes not being counted

  • Mari

    Career Education, just outside Chicago to layoff 600.

  • KhadijahMuhammad

    It’s so friggin simple……..
    The left wants the corporations and rich individuals to accept less profit so as to provide funds for all this crapola they want to do (not for deficit reduction, mind you).
    You now see how the corporations respond — they REFUSE to accept less profit; they’ll take it out of the hides of the workers instead. (And these layoffs aren’t all of it — you can take it to the bank that these and other companies are telling employees that there will be no raises and that benefit packages are going to shrink, all to maintain the profit margins WHICH IS WHAT THE CEO’S ARE HIRED TO GROW.
    Now, on to the rich. Think they’re going to just say “yea, well, I guess there won’t be as much cash around, maw?”. Nope. If they are business owners, it will come out of their employee’s hides just as above. If they’re NOT business owners, donations to charities will get cut and there will be a sudden boom on untrackable/untaxable foreign assets such as overseas real estate.
    Progressives. Losers.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WJR6CRU3MK26B7HNEQYEV7R7IA Get Real

      trickle down poverty….
      this is his way

      • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

        clever play on words
        disturbingly true
        *sigh*

  • disqus_ILNBk01CdU

    Most of those being laid probably did not vote for the “Great Destroyer”

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WJR6CRU3MK26B7HNEQYEV7R7IA Get Real

      at least half of them did……

  • Dirk Diggler

    Why were the layoffs not made prior to the election? Simple, big business supports Obama. 8 of the 10 most wealthiest counties in America overwhelmingly voted for him. CEOs trim the work force and maximize their revenue. Obama is laughing all the way to the bank on this one…

    • http://www.facebook.com/faith.dunn2 Faith Dunn

      no thats not it at all..these companies were hoping that people understand there circumstances if obama was re-elected and so there will be done..its there rite..god bless these companies so they can shelter the next four years..i folded april 2012..was hoping to start from scratch but will not as long as a socialist is in office

  • Blue Ridge

    Obamaworld…own it Democrats.

    • http://twitter.com/wenegne Tamara D. Clark

      they’re gonna play the ‘Bush Card’ all the way to 2016

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/WJR6CRU3MK26B7HNEQYEV7R7IA Get Real

        ..and the race card…..
        business as usual…….

      • Liberty_Jane

        They’ll be playing it forever. We will NEVER have a federal government without a socialist majority again. Ever.

  • Vaffonculo

    A President Romney would have prevented this but too many stupid people outnumbered the ones with common sense. Now all will suffer.because of the idiots who want free stuff instead of earning it. Now more people are unemployed, less tax dollars pretty soon the free bee pool will run dry then what are these stupid people going to do when their free stuff is no longer available? Riot, they should do themselves in because IT IS THEIR FAULT , no one left to blame.

    • Kbuzz

      What they will do is blame Republicans because no new taxes are being considered.

      • CommonSense033

        Tax WHAT?! People are being taxed to death, THAT IS WHY THEY ARE LAYING OFF!

  • Neal Avery

    Ha, Ha, Huh, Ha,Ha The Unions voted for lay offs. They were just too stupid to know it.

    • CommonSense033

      Of course. But thugs like Trumpka and Gettlefinger will be eating five star meals in the White House this week.

  • Real

    This is the new America?

    Well that is what they say.
    With the new America
    comes new terms or may be new to you that will be in the news.

    There is a lot of doom and gloom out there.

    In plain English here is an explanation of the new terms for
    the New America.

    1. Keep this in mind the economy cycles and it may recover
    on its own. It would have by now if not for Obama’s’ policies.

    This self recovery is unlikely with Higher Taxes= Higher
    Unemployment and Obama Care = Higher Unemployment.

    So unless something changes there will not be much self
    recovery.

    There is already talk of part time teachers as a result of Obama Care.

    Several private sector employers will have to make employees
    part time. [This exploded yesterday after I wrote this].

    People aren’t going to feel so good about punishing those
    rich people.

    2. Fiscal Cliff

    This is a combination of expiring tax cuts and across the
    board spending cuts that go in effect Dec. 31, 2012. This is having an effect on hiring and
    spending and may send us into a recession if we weren’t already in one.

    3. Double dip recession

    This is when the GDP (gross
    domestic product) goes back to a negative after it has been positive for one or
    two quarters of the year following a recession. We have pretty much been in a
    recession since the housing crash before Obama was elected. If we truly come out
    of the recession for 3 to 6 months then return to a recession that is a double
    dip.

    There is also a Triple Dip Recession which is much
    worse and last longer.

    4. Depression

    Much worse or is it?

    Unemployment rose to 25% during
    the Great Depression but that included those who had given up looking for work
    unlike today’s figures. If we include those we get closer to the 25%.

    U.S. output dropped almost by half and world trade plummeted by
    65%.

    It can’t happen again because
    banks are insured (FDIC)……. WRONG…
    Since Obama has taken office there is no longer enough FDIC money to cover
    your money in the bank.

    In my state there are only I think
    4 or 5 banks that are solvent and could actually return your money if we have a
    Great Depression and none of them are close to my area.

    Not likely but we did not have
    Obama care when the Great Depression started. We did not have a 16 TRILLION
    PLUS DOLLAR DEBT going in to the GREAT DEPRESSION.

  • cntrlfrk


    We warned you about this in 2008 and again in 2012. You called us ‘racists’.

    Remember???

    .

  • savannahjordan1

    The unions spent tens of millions of dollars of union dues to elect democrats. So, start laying off the f*cking union people who cost their employers a bundle, and then vote for this pathetic president.

  • 67primrose

    Elections have consquences. Welcome to the real world of life. Thank you America for voting the reelection/or not voting of/for the most incompetent clown in history. Now pay the price for it.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/polyphemus777 Bryan Hipple

      You can thank all the so called “Latinos” who want to make all their family and friends citizens by breaking the law, they own this election, if your black, good luck finding work, Obama sold you all out!

      • 67primrose

        The funny part of this group of Obama supporters is that they are the ones who are going to pay the big price through unemployment since the majority of them are the less educated/less skilled, and the first to get laid off; union members or non union members doesn’t matter. Since 97% of the blacks voted for Obumbler for their racism, along with the Latinos (approximately 67% who voted for the clown), I have to laugh…”your getting what you deserved.”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RYBYVBRDNZKXL3BESHOZULLQRA Jennifer

    People with big houses and no money to pay and you are Christian. Please give up the fancy home and get yourself a real small one and pay for because time will get very rought and the rich and the big fancy home where the invaders going after!!!. Try very hard to live without many things so when bad time hit you you don’t get hurt that bad. JESUS IS COMMING SO KEEP YOUR FAITH.

  • Dennis in PA

    Shrug

  • disqus_ILNBk01CdU

    ITT is in the processing of reducing its insurance coverage to levels that almost resemble no coverage at all. Had a medical emergency two months ago and the insurance company refused payment on all treatment saying none of it was necessary. Pretty amazing that an infection that can cause the loss of body parts is considered “optional” treatment. No amount of arguing has changed their stance, they refuse to pay for any service to protect their profit. (I have yet to see them refuse my premium) ObamaCare has started this war on the people TO STAY ALIVE. Everyone will have coverage, but none of the insurance companies will have to pay. We just pay them because we are TOLD to and in return we get nothing but DEATH. Thanks to all of those who decided to continue our destruction. I wish upon you and your family the same hardship…. I hope you find yourself getting the “finger” from your ObamaCare representitive and that it costs you something dear, like breathing!!!!

  • barney59

    I’m sure Oblamer will demonize all businesses now, “How dare you greedy Capitalists fire my people! Can’t be because of Oblamacare!” His mindless drones will glady chime in with their chorus…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/BK-Lewis/100003373427366 BK Lewis

    Now it is time for America to surrender to U.N. rule. This collapse has been planned for 50 years. All the whack-a-moles are now in place. Collapse the U.S. dollar and blame it on Europe. This will extract more leverage and monies to be delivered to Goldman Sachs LLC and Homeland Security LLC. Austerity and poverty for American’s while the rest of the world flourishes. Here is your POLICE STATE you ordered America. Brought to you by the NWO Puppets the Bush’s, the Clintons and yes Obummer.

  • Billy Butch

    If I get laid off I am going to demand my slice of the great 47% and tweet, “Take that B*tches”. See what I did there?

    • CommonSense033

      Not allowed if you’re white.

      • Dave Silva

        so true. supposedly some people on welfare get the equivalent in benefits of $60k or so. totally insane.

      • Billy Butch

        What if I go to LatAm and sneak back in? You know, undocumented like.

  • Marcy Cook

    Let the collapse begin. Make sure all you patriots are stocked up. When we the producers are not available to help the takers they will eat each other. Stand back and let’s let it happen.

    • CommonSense033

      Moreso, don’t let anyone know you’ve stocked up.

      You WILL be charged with “hoarding” and your supplies confiscated for redistribution.

      • Marcy Cook

        Good point.

  • JBar595

    With the money you have left, buy food with a long shelf life, water and a quality firearm and ammo, chaos is coming.

  • Austin Acosta

    YIPEEEEEEE!!!! Congratulations my fellow Americans who chose this incompetent President for a second time…. You got what you asked for, unfortunately you’re taking the rest of the country down with you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448359974 Forest Miller

    That’s just a handful of companies laying people off and here’s a handful that have announced closures since the election:

    Caterpillar Inc. will close its plant in Owatonna Minn.

    Mount Pleasant’s Albrecht Sentry Foods

    Target is closing four stores

    K-Mart is closing several stores

    Millennium Academy in Wake Forest NC

    The Andover Gift Shop in Andover MA

    Grand Union Family Markets Closing Storrs Location CT

    Movie Scene Milford Location NH

    TE Connectivity Closing Greensboro Plant – 620 Layoffs
    Expected

    Gomer’s Fried Chicken in South Kansas City

    Kmart in Homer Glen

    Fresh Market on Pine Street in Burlington

    AGC Glass North America to permanently close its Blue Ridge
    Plant in Kingsport Tenn.

    The Roses store on Reynold Road in Winston-Salem NC

    Meanders Kitchen losing its West Seattle location at 6032
    California Ave

    Bost Harley-Davidson at 46th Avenue North and Delaware Ave.
    in West Nashville TN

    Townsend Booksellers in Oakland

  • Marcy Cook

    BTW, OT, here in NY I am watching what looks like deliberately slow action by the Federal and State governments to help the Sandy victims. People in the affected areas are so helpless right now. I was prepared for Sandy, rode it out and came out the other side with only power outage to contend with. But I had my generator and gas and food and medical supplies already stockpiled so for me it was only a minor inconvenience. But for the others…..it will take a long time to recover from the trauma. I am hoping these idiots in NY have learned something. Because it’s going to get a lot worse. Let the collapse begin.

    • Austin Acosta

      And that storm saved the President???? Go figure!!!

      • Marcy Cook

        Because the media only showed Obama’s girlfriend Chris Christie hugging and kissing and thanking the Messiah for saving him. The media is still covering up for obama. Where is the “Katrina” outrage?

        • Austin Acosta

          Unbelievable… I told a Lib the same thing, and he couldn’t answer. The media is garbage and from here on out, its going to be an uphill battle for any Republican to ever get back in the White House again!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DFBSCMCYPDYLQH5QBC4XTU56HE Jack Daniels

      Honestly I think Obama could fly down to NY and NJ, stand in front of the wreckage of their homes and laugh at the people who are cold and hungry and he would still get elected by the people of NY and NJ.

      I see stories about people making signs saying they will shoot looters, this from people who elected Bloomberg the gun grabber twice. Do you think these people who have been looted will figure out that they have been voting for someone who has tried to disarm them and make them vulnerable to looters and criminals? Of course they wont. They’ll forget this storm and their need to defend themselves and start voting the Liberal gun grabbers right back in office. I’ve never seem a more blind group of voters as in the North East US.

    • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

      This unfortunate situation is another example of the mainstream media’s love affair with keeping Obama safe from questioning eyes.

      *sigh* It is beyond sad that this double standard is preventing societal pressure from forcing more action for those that need help.

  • Fed Up

    Elections have consequences folks, I hope the blue states are the worst hit!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/faith.dunn2 Faith Dunn

      its funny my state is blue and the week pryor to elections there were over 8000 layoffs..people really dont get it

  • MarkTimm

    I’m pretty sure they will only lay off the angry old white guys, Single women, college new hires, Hispanics and Blacks hae nothing to worry about.

    • Dave Silva

      no such thing as college new hires. more than half of college graduates have to move back in with mom and dad and can’t find any job. The ones that get a job become waitresses, or other unskilled labor.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZNAV3ESWOX7RU337UA7EOFSBL4 decmocratsrcommunits

      right, they don’t work in the first place, so how can Americans lay them off?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Frank-Cangialosi/1124213439 Frank Cangialosi

    i can’t believe these stories that obama is going hire romney to fix the economy. wouldn’t that be an admission that we elected the wrong man?

    • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

      Exactly. The blinders are strong with those ones.

      Unfortunately, in the very miniscule chance that it happens, the prevailing liberal/democratic snarky response will be, “Look at the rich white guy working for the black guy. Hahahahahaha!”

      /sad

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448359974 Forest Miller

    If you don’t think elections have consequences, here’s a list of just a few of the companies that have announced layoffs since the election:

    Bristol-Meyers
    Boeing
    Groupon
    Energizer
    Westinghouse
    Research in Motion
    Lightyear Network Solutions
    Providence Journal
    Hawker Beechcraft
    CVPH Medical Center
    US Cellular
    Momentive Performance Materials
    Rocketdyne
    Brake Parts
    Vestas Wind Systems
    Husqvarna
    Center for Hospice – New York
    OCE North America
    Darden Restaurants
    West Ridge Mine
    United Blood Services Gulf
    Timken Roller Bearing

  • sailorman100

    I won sao you’re screwed

  • Jason Pedersen

    I feel bad for the president, he will inherit quite a mess in January

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5RQI7XTNJAAU4HHZ6KSDJ5ZBZI Michael

      A mess of his own doing.

      He isn’t inheriting anything.

      He owns it.

      I feel bad for America.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DFBSCMCYPDYLQH5QBC4XTU56HE Jack Daniels

      lmao

  • JaneBlacksmith

    Because elections (and the choices we make) have consequences.

  • cntrlfrk


    This isn’t by accident folks. The more layoffs there are, the more Obama will push for ‘stimulus’ in the form of Public-Private Partnerships where the government has a vested stake in corporations.

    If we don’t fight this now, by the time the dust settles we will be full-blown Socialists.

    .

  • pappy

    Atlas is Shrugging, bitches.

    Own it, democrats! LOL

  • chris warner

    Why is this news? This was seen coming if anyone paid attention to the news. Some of these are DoD contracts that had planned to give notice prior to the election but the administration had promised to compensate if they held off on pink slips until after the election. Can’t blame a company for trying to save money in other cases as they will be hit with the tax of Obama care. (Roberts called it a tax to allow it Obamacare to pass. If not a tax it would not have gotten past the courts.) People have got to live with the consequences of their choices. More than half of America chose Obama.

  • Obamasucks69

    and so it has begun, we tried to tell all the stupid people who voted for obama this would happen. just think if Romney won the flood gate of jobs would have been open.
    The people we should be really pissed at are the 3 million less republicans who stayed home and didn’t vote on Tue for if they did Obama would be packing his bags.

    • pappy

      the idiot evangelicals and catholics are to blame. they didn’t come out and vote because he’s mormon. as if their fairy tale is better than his or something.

      • cntrlfrk

        Don’t forget the Paultards that decided to write in Ron Paul instead of voting for a real candidate.

        • pappy

          yep.

        • GTFOBigGovt

          And Gary Johnson for the pothead demographic.

  • MoreEntitlementsPlease

    Look on the bright side – at least all those women who voted for Obama will get their “free” birth control. Enjoy, ladies!

  • TGrade1

    Too bad all these companies didn’t do this a couple of days before. The outcome would have been different. Also, I’d like to point out that the predator drone which was fired on by Iran on November 1st wasn’t revealed to the American people then because the mission was classified. Now it’s been revealed. I guess it was classified before the election but not after.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jas.cooke.5 Rick Battersby

    Buy lead. It may be worth more than gold.

  • kingdad

    Hey Guys these fine corporations all did as Obama requested and held off releasing these layoff notices until after the election thus allowing him to use puffery to extol his many pseudo virtues and you ch-mps bought it hook, line and sinker. Hope you all enjoy your time on unemployment now that the long term benefits program will have to be cut back. Call Mom and Dad now and reserve your old rooms.

  • James

    here is may take. not that Banana will get it done. divide the country. cause conflict, step in to quell the conflict and at the same time take out all of us who will stand for God and our country. I am ready are you?

  • kara Copeland

    You know…even if Romney won in the same numbers that we had (almost 50/50), I would still be disappointed that our country is this divided. There are so many UNinformed people, then there are even more MISinformed. That spells disaster.

    Our country needs a good butt-whoopen. That’s exactly what they are going to get. Unfortunately, they dragged us all into it as well.

    • pappy

      we’ll get involved in a major war soon. look at history.

  • Blade_Runner_1776

    The useful idiots will say, in their best collective cognizant dissonance they can muster, “it is Bush fault”.

  • Austin Acosta

    So whats the over/under on how long it takes Obama to start blaming all this on Romney for not winning the election?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MHMTVTQUZ76YELDUQDJ2CATLUA Paul Diguardi

    Atlas Shrugged.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jibreelx JKR

    I see this is twitter generated news. Wow, just wow

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001448359974 Forest Miller

      You are at Twitchy, what did you expect? Go to a Twitter aggregator and then complain that there are tweets here? Seriously?

  • whatitism

    Well one good thing is when he says he inherited this bad economy on the last president , he won’t be lying because he inherited it from himself.

  • Bobby

    I do not like to see people lose their jobs, but if jobs are lost I hope they voted for obummer!

    • Tulloulamae

      The sad thing is, this is hitting far and wide and not just for the people that voted for him. I have many friends that voted for Romney and received lay off notices yesterday. This is not going to be good. I’m too young to remember but my parents do and they say its reminiscent of the 70’s and early 80’s.

      • Fred

        It’s much worse than what happened in the late 70’s. Under Carter unemployment rates were high, about 12-15% but now, the actuall uemployment rate is between 15-20%. The government cooks the books to hide the facts but it will be impossible to hide for much longer. The only bright spot is that Obama supporters are either on welfare or working in government. Government agencies will have to start laying off soon due to a lack of tax revenue. That means a whole lot of libs are about to get what they voted for. I can’t wait to hear them cry!

        • johnrhett

          According to the Shadow Stats website, when figured by the method used when Carter was president, the unemployment rate has been about 24% for some time. Watch it skyrocket now.

    • http://www.facebook.com/faith.dunn2 Faith Dunn

      thats how i feel aswell..punish people for there decisions…why not the other half of the country is already suffering for there choices

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZNAV3ESWOX7RU337UA7EOFSBL4 decmocratsrcommunits

    the economic civil war between Americans and democrats is just getting started

  • http://www.oligula.com/ Emperor Oligula

    It has been a good day for the Empire. It has seen the end of Romney, and we shall soon see the end of Capitalism. Meanwhile my foolish biographer says his response to my war is to cut all his discretionary spending and save until he is able to leave California, the epicenter of crazy, as he puts it.

  • rsvrdg

    This is what Obama wants to happen, to put everyone on a level playing field. We will all be poor and/or in poverty, and relying onto the government for everything we get in the future. That is how the Communist agenda works. When I grew up, we were all taught to fight the Communists for our freedom. Now it looks like the liberal zealots have allowed it to come to our shores and take us over from the inside. I truly pray for our country, and hope that we can survive this dark time……

  • Fred

    Obama no longer needs the Obots, they served their purpose. Now he needs them in the streets rioting so he finish consolidating power. Once that is complete, he will rid himself of his supporters like the trash that he envisions them to be. They committed suicide and didn’t even notice.

  • buckbamboo

    I wonder if now that the election is over the department of labor will report the real unemployment figures or will they continue to lie?

    • Fred

      As long as there is a democrat in the whitehouse, the media will lie. If a Republican were sworn in, the day after all we would hear about would be how many people are unemployed and homeless. Happens every time.

  • tzjdeo

    The economy is picking up…..Unemployment is down…..oh did I tell you that GM is alive and Osama is dead, just wanted to make sure you folks new that….oh..and and and I am the President…again. That’s what we will hear from potus.

    • Guest

      i’d love to see the look on your face the day you realize the kool-aid came at a higher price than you bargained for

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5RQI7XTNJAAU4HHZ6KSDJ5ZBZI Michael

      The economy is going down in flames, GM is on life support, never truly having been fixed, waiting to die another day; Osama is dead (maybe) yet Al Qaeda lives; Obama watched Al Qaeda execute 4 American in Benghazi on live TV and then went to bed;

      Obama is a disgrace as are all who elected him.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/QSVJEUNHYOTAZUPB3KKUE7Y7G4 Steak

        Awww, poor widdle conservative! Must be tough finding out that nobody buys your bullshit anymore, and that you are, mercifully, in the minority.

        Look at the numbers, moron. The economy is going up. Corporate America is doing great if you go by the stock market… and yet unemployment is still high. Yeah, blaming the president instead of these greedy ass corporations is totally the right answer.

  • Jim

    I saw a luxury car in silicon valley (CA) yesterday with the license “edduc8” and an Obama/Biden sticker on the back … must have been speeding to the fiscal cliff.

  • A_Southern_Gent

    Back in 2008, a radio talk show host I was listening said that, if Obama was elected and companies had to layoff workers, the bosses should walk through their parking lots and see who had Obama stickers on their cars. Those would be the first people to go.

    I think this should apply double for 2012!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jon.morris.5817 Jon Morris

    I honestly believe that companies laying off workers right after the election should be condemned, not given sympathy. All this talk about “American spirit” and such and their first move is to tap out. Maybe try running themselves a bit more efficiently? I know exactly what you’re going to say: regulations et cetera. There are always regulations. At least we don’t have “austerity measures.” Guess what 2 wars ain’t free, Jack. Pick yourselves up and get a grip.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5RQI7XTNJAAU4HHZ6KSDJ5ZBZI Michael

      go ahead and condemn them. better yet, start a business to pick up the slack they must be missing out on. it’s easy, right?

      you’ve condemned all of us. fool.

    • Me

      Unbelievably STUPID response. They were already running on fumes. They are borrowing money to stay in business. What an ignorant democrat. No wonder Obama won.

    • http://twitter.com/wenegne Tamara D. Clark

      this has been coming for quite sometime. it’s not like you weren’t warned about that. you don’t seem to realize that the rich are under no law that says they HAVE to employ anyone, or keep their doors open, or be productive in any way, shape, or form. your side is effectively killing the goose that laid the golden egg. the rich are saying ‘to hell with it’ and pulling their money out of the economy. they’re perfectly entitled to do that. if they create no taxable event, like selling for capital gains, or putting someone to work, then the government doesn’t take the money. poor people suffer the most. why can’t your side get that?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5RQI7XTNJAAU4HHZ6KSDJ5ZBZI Michael

        because they are unbelievably stupid

    • BenFranklinLives

      Wow… I always wondered what President Chavez’s constituents thought like. All along I thought my business who makes pay for 30 people a week was for me to make money. Now add more expenses and I make less. Why be in business when you make less than being an employee somewhere else? Jon, your a fool. Careful, your class warfare mask is slipping and showing under your “concerned citizen mask”.

  • mrhuehls

    It looks to me like the beginnings of a recession spiraling into a depression driven by the USA via recessive digressive progressive liberal economic policies. I think it is going to get so bad that by 2015 the Democratic Party will recall Obama.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5RQI7XTNJAAU4HHZ6KSDJ5ZBZI Michael

      never

  • oo

    Day 3; A.D.A. (AFTER DEATH of AMERIKA)

    The black cloud of Death continues to hang over the dead
    Country of Amerika and the stench is in the air. The Parasites are joyfully
    celebrating the victory over Freedom and Liberty
    and Personal Responsibility. The filthy Parasites continue to suck on the dried
    up tit of a dead thing, no life, no substance just pus from a dead decaying
    once alive Country.
    I noticed to day many Parasites coming out to display all
    the trinkets and bobbles and shinny things they received from the Parasite King
    for their vote and treason. Somehow, in the light of day, they don’t seem to be
    as shinny and pretty as they were in the darkness from which they were received,
    but they don’t seem to care because they got it free. They stole it and the
    soulless Parasites don’t even know they are as dead as the Country they just
    murdered.

  • Maus

    Well, the welfare queens, idiots, union thugs, felons and dead folks (either in brain or in body) have spoken: Prez-O-Bama II. Trust me, these lay-offs will not affect them. And now, more formerly hard-working Americans will now join the growing dependency class.

    On question please: What happens when nobody is working?

    • Fed Up

      The last person to leave America should turn off the lights!!!

      • Silenttype78

        Like…. Detroit?

        SO crazy how that whole failure is still such a mystery to lib-progs!

    • Fred

      Atlas Shrugged…see the movie…it is the future of America.

  • JustLikeAnimals

    Thank you, blind , naive, fawning, lock-step Democrats for ensuring the fall of the American economy. Obama and his socialist ilk are reeling at their dream-come-true of total economic collapse and millions more American’s becoming dependent on the government for their daily sustenance. Problem is, tax revenue is about to plummet and there will be now money to pay for the burgeoning social handouts. So, the government will have to implement harsh austerity cuts to bring the cost of social outlays in line with real revenue. This will lead to violent protests in the streets against the government.

    Take a look at the violence in Greece today. It’s coming to a neighborhood near you.

    Nice.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5RQI7XTNJAAU4HHZ6KSDJ5ZBZI Michael

      you forgot pernicious and malevolent

    • JackP32

      Let the riots and destruction of property begin. The Democraps and their news media buddies will have a field day blaming the Repubs for the uprising, further sealing the demise of the 2 party system. Chuck U Schumer and Turbin Durbin will have a field day.

  • Me

    We knew this would happen. The racist minorities voted anybody but the white guy, even though they knew what would happen. Well, it’s happening.
    They’re going to get the very exact economy they voted for.

    • http://www.facebook.com/faith.dunn2 Faith Dunn

      well it gives them a reason to complain….a black man does not make as much as a white man…so sick of this racist crap

      • Me

        Yes, I’m sick of everything being the white man conservative’s issue. We’re just people like everyone else, but we’re the devil because of our white skin. Romney was made out to be the great white devil.

        • Silenttype78

          Agree.

          For what it is worth as a woman,I am also tired of the “War on Women” nonsense.

  • Patriot1775ad

    Get yourself on food stamps quick. I did. I have been looking for a job for 2 years. I have had one offer at $8 an hour. From $75000 to this wage. Basically, enough to pay taxes but not enough to buy food or pay for bills.Only 30 hrs a week. So, $240 weekly take my contributions for taxes and it is down to $180 a week or less. I guess we will wait it out on the rich. LOL

  • shearwater

    This shows how little people know about the “Affordable Health Care Act” and what it means in terms of tangible angst among employers and employees. The democrats bomb is frighteningly real now and there is no turning back. Obama will excercise his chutzpah just as he did in the first term but will do it with much more authority since he will not get another term. I as a senior face the possibility of a serious illness and will be subject to the euthanasia that his death panels dictate, regardless of any other consideration. Frankly, I see Obama devalueing the seniors because they know what America was like and have that good memory which Obama would like to get rid of and replace it with a “new normal” of deprivation. austerity and socialism that his policies will effect.

  • Against Layoffs

    United Health Group has also joined the Layoff List.. Although News agencies arnt covering it, many of my friends there told me that they were given the layoff notice yesterday #forward!!!

  • trajan2448

    The death of the USA. No country has ever thrived without a solid prosperous middle class. Demoncrats and liberal, affirmative action and immigration policies have DESTROYED the traditional social systems of education and healthcare to support the welfare state, low IQ dummies and illegals. The private sector working middle class has been shoved down into poverty as they can’t afford PRIVATE education. Thus US cities are now effectively third world hierarchies, with a small group of rich and EVERYBODY ELSE, and its going to get much much worse.

  • mike hagen

    business owners are showing if they plan on taxing, we plan on cutting. it takes alot to run a business plus they have to save up profits incase of bad times to keep people there. seen some good business owners here in las vegas nevada that did that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=707270629 Jim Speed

    I have HOPE because I am a Christian.. I know the Lord IS in Control. But yes, I am a bit concerned… because I also know that God said “The rain falls on the Just and the Un-Just Alike”. These MORONS who voted for obama may end up paying for that MISTAKE a lot sooner than I thought they would.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W4M7CFQRT7IZLPYAJE4BJWMG3Q Bearman

    Cloward-piven, fully implemented. The end of America is in sight.

  • Banksters_Rule_the_World

    My employeer announced that 7 employees will be let go at the end of this month. During our lunch break that same day a bunch of employees ran to their cars to scrape off their Obama bumpers stickers.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5RQI7XTNJAAU4HHZ6KSDJ5ZBZI Michael

      won’t do any good. he already knows who they are.

    • stuckinIL4now

      The guy in Vegas who forewarned his employees before the election that there would be layoffs if Obama got re-elected and who laid off 22 employees Wednesday said that several of his employees showed up at work wearing Obama t-shirts that day. I don’t know how many of them were included in the layoffs, and unless they’re really really stupid, I wonder how long they’ll be wearing those t-shirts if they did get laid off.

  • pappy

    i work at a bank. i’ll be fine. but i hope obama voters all lose their jobs and starve.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jon.morris.5817 Jon Morris

    Obamacare was the law last Friday. But all of a sudden Wednesday it’s time to lay everyone off? Not buying it. Civics 101: Congress makes laws, the President signs or vetos them, and SCOTUS spoke on this law months ago. Acting like the regulations that affect business are going to change for the worst overnight is irresponsible and naive, and you reactionaries are a bunch of wussies. Your grandfather would have found a way to deal rather than taking all his toys and going home. CEO salaries (and the gap between them and everyone else’s income) are at ALL TIME HIGHS and you still cry like little babies. You’re all about “invest in America” but none of you will actually do it.

    • Im_Rick_James

      Wrong answer, b$tch. Here’s a little Reality 101 for you. The CEOs of these corporations were holding out on laying people off because they were hoping a Romney win would give them some path to roll back the dramatically negative effect the government, and especially the obama administration is having on business. They’re doing it now because they have to, with a wave of new costs and regulations coming down the pipeline, not because they want to. As a matter of fact, they probably held onto these people much longer than could have originally been justified, on the hopes of a Romney win alone. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. And PS, f$ck your civics.

      • Me

        Bingo!!! Now, the layoffs begin….
        The CBO said unemployment would rise to 9.5% next year if Obama gets elected.
        They sure have it pegged.

    • http://twitter.com/wenegne Tamara D. Clark

      what in the world makes you think that someone who made capitalism work for them OWES the rest of us a goddamned thing? capitalism made it possible for anyone to achieve success, but you had to be disciplined, VERY disciplined. democraps are not that disciplined; they’re more inclined to ‘marry’ their wealth than to earn it.

    • Silenttype78

      Here is what changed- Romney could have issued wavers.

      Like it or not businesses are SCARED to DEATH of Obama,and his lack of business sense.

      Do you know why on paper CEO’s are greedy,evil bastards?
      Because they aren’t risking THEIR money right now.

      My grandfather would have waited as long as he could have to lay people off.
      Then,he would have. Because that’s how people find a way around regs that hurt business.

      These “big” lay offs are related to those layoff notices that Obama “recommended” sending out after the elections.

      • http://twitter.com/wenegne Tamara D. Clark

        welcome to capitalism. i’m glad i got to see it in effect for part of my life

        • carolina mama

          Actually, it works very well as long as government stays out of it. When government intervenes, that’s when it gets royally screwed up.

    • GTFOBigGovt

      They were hoping Romney would win and when he lost they executed their economic requirement. They are following the LAW and going about their business. It’s YOU that’s “crying like a baby” because you can’t make me give you a JOB. Too bad for you. BTW I’m only hiring conservatives too. Oh and “invest in America” is a Socialist Liberal term for tax. You won’t hear Conservatives or even any GOP use it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DFBSCMCYPDYLQH5QBC4XTU56HE Jack Daniels

    This isn’t a surprise. The stories were out there in the media before the election that if Obamacare was left to stand then companies would be laying off workers. It doesn’t help that Obama is going to raise taxes by letting the current tax rates expire. Sequestration doesn’t help businesses either as some of these are defense contractors. I guess Obama isn’t really that worried, he doesn’t care about the military and has asked for additional cuts to our troops fighting ability on more than one occasion.

    There is only one question that is pertinent now, will the President and Democrats outline what entitlement cuts and reforms they are willing to make? The GOP is going to have to raise taxes at some point because elections have consequences but I wouldn’t count on the GOP even talking about them until the Democrats show they are serious about honest bargaining on their side. The problem is Democrats have promised cuts in spending in the past in exchange for tax increases, then they never make the cuts. Once a “trust but verify” method can be worked out then we can probably stop the sequestration.

  • $24622695

    This has been Obama’s plan from before he took office. Only a blithering IDIOT could think that it is going to go well to have a socialist putz as our Fearless Leader. In the Left’s fantasy world, businesses exist PRIMARILY as a way to give the masses something to opiate their minds with so that they don’t revolt as they become increasingly revolting. To the Leftist, profits = taxes and business owners = slaves. It would not surprise me in the slightest to see a new executive order making it illegal for publicly traded companies to fire people or to be taken back into private equity in order to avoid the consequences of being a publicly traded company. And I can just see some of the readers of these words nodding and saying, “Damn straight.”

  • mdsm777

    Stupid is as stupid does. They get what they vote for. Unfortunately for us, we get to suffer alongside their stupidity.

  • BorderLine Guy

    Boom! MN goes back to the Democrats (legislature) and Caterpillar closes their Owatonna plants and moves the jobs to…WISCONSIN and GEORGIA.

    • Silenttype78

      Your avatar pic is creepy in a familiar way.
      I like it!

      • http://www.4chan.org/pol La’Milton

        From the music video for lateralus

        • BorderLine Guy

          Parabol/Parabola actually!

  • http://twitter.com/SRHuizenga Steven Huizenga

    Calling the loss of employees “revenge” seems out of place. Taking greater and greater amounts from the successful seems to satisfy that definition a bit better.

  • Mike Gilmer

    The US is now a land of takers, not makers. The takers do not care about layoffs as they are already on the dole and do not want jobs anyway. Sad but true.

  • Ron Williams

    As the beloved Jeremiah Wright said” Now the chickens have come home to roost!!!If you voted for Obama you made your bed now lie in it!!!

    • It’s just me again

      Unfortunately, we’re sharing a bedroom.

  • $25594549

    This is exactly what obama wanted. He is brilliant and the “takers” in America are dumb, selfish, uneducated and complete failures. He has got them ALL on his side. Including illegals unions, etc. America is NO LONGER!

  • Lucille rothstein

    All of these companies need to be investigated, how many of them are hiring illegals? How many of them are fudging the numbers? How many of them are playing with peoples lives? All of them! They are turning the livelihoods of their employees into pawns in their game of politics. They need to be brought back down to reality. I say the government takes away any tax breaks that they are receiving and the owners get investigated and prosecuted for any possible fraud. Corporations are raping people and all you idiots can do is blame a man that has been trying to stop them. You think Romney was your saviour? He had the lube, he was going to enjoy you. He was stopped. He is the connected man with these big corporations. They are doing this in retaliation as the scum gangsters and banksters that they are. Stupid people can’t you see?

    • http://twitter.com/wenegne Tamara D. Clark

      how many of them are sick to death of the government demanding more and more and more? investigate them for what? who says they’re legally bound to employ anyone or keep their doors open? what happens when they do nothing the government can tax? there is no law against that, you know. who suffers then? and who do you blame? if i was a business owner, on 11/7 i would have retired early and pink slipped all my employees.

    • Me

      Sorry, but you’re the clueless one. Business is here to profit, grow, and continue to expand. From that comes jobs and a lot of revenue. The Dems hate business and treat it like the enemy. You can’t steal from them unless you make them the enemy. You jusify yourselves and your party’s actions in that manner.
      Companies leave because of business climate. They go where it’s better for them to survive and grow. That isn’t anywhere the democrats live and control. You’re acting as if emotional outbursts are part of the business cycle. It isn’t. Business and survival are their 2 main goals now. Emotional outbursts and emotional decisioins are owned and operated by the Dems.
      You ever know anybody making a good decision when their emotions rule the decision? That’s liberalism – emotional decisions, not based in reality.
      Stupid, stupid liberals.

    • It’s just me again

      You clearly know nothing about running a business. We are hearing about the big companies, but believe me there are many more small companies having to do the same. How about this, they were holding on hoping for something better in Romney. When they saw Obummer get another four years they lost hope and are now going to have to figure out how to make it through the next wave of wreckless behavior by our government.

    • Silence Dogood

      Really? You are clueless on economics. They have been talking about this for two years, did you miss the memo or did you get stuck on Tingles Matthews channel? The tax hikes make it unaffordable to hire new ppl or keep the ones they have. Learn how a business works before making superlatively ignorant statements huh?

    • tomincol

      Do you really believe this? What is a business to do when unknown spending cuts loom and no direction has been provided as to the magnitude of the cuts?

    • GTFOBigGovt

      LOL somebody woke up. You were warned since 2009 did you think we were kidding? . Obamacare will kill jobs. You CANNOT force a private business to buy a product it doesn’t want to buy.

      I know a medical device company who urged it’s employees to VOTE. They attached an article on Obamacare and it explained that there were taxes imposed on medical devices AND that companies were being forced to supply a certain type of healthcare for all employees working over 28 hours. It explained both sides and the possible cutbacks required in hours and benefits if Obamacare was implemented.

      What did some employees say? “OMG I can’t believe that Romney doing that!”

      HUH? Do you work there?

      I own a business and for 2 years anybody who asked for a job got the same answer. No I am not hiring until the 2012 election because of Obama’s anti-business policies and Obamacare.

      The answer is the same, nope, not hiring. I DIDN’T WORK 80 HOURS A WEEK FOR 10 YEARS BUILDING MY BUSINESS FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO FEEL ENTITLED TO MY LABOR AND PROFITS. Got it now? .

      Get ready for phase 2 IF you have a job. You will be shipped off to a government exchange with crappy doctors, long wait times, limited care and end of life guidance to “take the pill” instead of get the operation. You’ve been warned. AGAIN.

    • Maria Seeger

      Sure I can see. I can see that these large corporations don’t need to justify their action to you or any other mindless fool who was willing to drink the Democratic kool-aid. Don’t you get it? These people have the gold, they are not afraid of you or of the Federal Gov’t; at least not to the extent that they are willing to bend over and let Obama rape *them*. Your problem is that you believe all that crap the DNC fed you about Mitt Romney. You also believe that Big Business owes you something. Well, guess what, they don’t. You can’t count on Big Government to fix this by penalizing them and “investigating” them. They’re not doing anything illegal. It’s their money and they can do whatever they want to with it…including shutting their doors, laying off all their employees and taking a permanent vacation…either that, or moving their company to another country which is friendlier to them.
      And there’s nothing you can do about it.

    • ATNorth

      Burn the math witch!!

  • JackP32

    You Obama voters just decided that it was OK for the U.S. Gooberment to go ahead with plans to increase the National Debt to $22 trillion, as projected by the CBO, by the year 2016, that is if America survives that long.

  • disqus_fl9vrCFQ9o

    Just because Romney is “pro business” doesn’t mean he is pro American. I’m sure he would encourage outsourcing of jobs to China just to make him and his elite happy.

    • Me

      rhetorical answer, not based in any facts. You’re making excuses for a racist vote.

    • Silenttype78

      Soooo glad Obama has China all taken care of….
      No jobs were created here in the U.S. when the fed. gov. bought Chinese solar panels with stimulus cash.
      Maybe it created a couple in China.

    • ATNorth

      Punish businesses until they like you better!!

  • HuandaRulz

    That’s what happens when people chooses their own benefit over the one of the Country.

    • Silenttype78

      Yeah,they must have taught union members to sling that wonderful talking point : “Conservatives (Republicans,etc.) vote against their own best interest!”

      I guess by their definition I did. Silly me for believing that my own interests are actually about something much bigger than any immediate benefit.

      Guess I should have voted with my lady parts.

    • http://twitter.com/wenegne Tamara D. Clark

      no…that’s what happens when the demand for kool-aid outpaces the demand for economic sense

  • Silenttype78

    How many of these companies would be directly impacted by Sequestration?
    I bet nearly all of them,either directly or indirectly.
    The Obama administration asked that the notices go out after the election.

    Once again lib-progs voice their rage at the wrong people.

    • tomincol

      You answered your question. Answer is ALL of them.

  • Raúl Ramírez

    At this point, the double dip recession is all but guaranteed as companies pull back and save their resources so they can stay in business to get through four more years of Obama’s anti-business policies. Taxes will keep going up and government revenues will continue to fall. If they don’t fudge the numbers again, unemployment will exceed 10% within 3 months.

  • Brent Richardson

    Texas has to Secede from the Union to Survive and will

    • http://twitter.com/wenegne Tamara D. Clark

      texas was smart enough to retain that right. maybe i should think about moving there, cuz where i’m at….they did NOT retain that right

  • poljunkie♪

    Thats ok, though- the news will still say unemployment is at 4% so the people will be happy. #idiots.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jon.morris.5817 Jon Morris

    What happens when Obama either appoints Romney to a post or uses some of his ideas? Where will all you “I’m leaving the country/starting an armed revolution/ hiding all my money offshore until this is over/end of America” nutjobs be then? First in line to come back? You can’t even wait ONE WEEK before you bail like a bunch of babies.

    • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

      Will be waiting to see if the Obama supporters realize that the guy they were told was evil rich guy actually knew what he was talking about.

    • tomincol

      He will not. Why should he? Romney is the evil rich white man who cheated to make his money. Hence, the state in the interest of “social justice” should take it.

    • tomincol

      As a secondary point, hiding money offshore is not going to help because all international banks must declare income from Americans.

    • Jim Denney

      Some of us may leave, but “your people” (according to Eric Holder) were articulating (irony intended) thoughts like “imagonna start a riot if Romney win.”
      So speaking of babies, go back to Head Start and get reprogrammed.

  • brianmouland

    Obama ! The nightmare has just begun

  • Deebow

    We shouldn’t be so hard on President Ass-Clown. Just look at the mess he inherited from the guy who was president for the last four years.

  • Sean

    Sit back and enjoy the schadenfreude-laced decline. Voters wanted layoffs, “gibsmedat” entitlements and they want you to pay for all of it. Who is John Galt indeed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-German/100002353848709 Robert German

    I wonder if Obozo will cry about the thousands about to be laid off around the country because of his ObamaCare? Also how many Obama voters got the pink slip?

    • Ben Ghazi

      I got dumped with 542 others who were over age 40 … why not select Obama voters? Aw … most of them are free loading anyway.

  • http://Obamaeatsshit.com/ Oscuma Sux

    Sad that they can’t just lay off the twits that voted for the Idiot in Chief

  • Guest

    chew on this you thugs

    • cgraham77

      Holy crap…what does RACE have to do with ANY of this!

      You IDIOT.

  • Ariadnea

    People have spoken, they would rather save Obama’s job and promote ILLEGAL immigration. Saving their own jobs and country, be damned. US education system and the corrupt media screwed up peoples’ priorities. US has now become the land of cult personalities. Sad seeing this country turn into another Cuba

  • pas49

    The conspiracies were never theories. People suffer from normalcy bias despite that which is happening before their eyes!

  • Black Dynamite

    So glad I don’t work for any of these scumbag companies.

  • WVS

    How the layoff bomb will be propagandized into a win for the left, and why Obama is like Lyndon Johnson:

    http://after-the-wind.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-layoff-bomb-and-lbj.html

  • alostjunkie

    The economy was the #1 issue going into the voting booth, and the best person to take care of it according to half of America is the guy who plays more golf than meet with his advisers. No problem, let’s borrow more $$$ from the Chinese and give out freebies. You reap what you sow as the saying goes. Own it.

    • drgonz0

      You reap what you sow find a real candidate.

  • http://pennyrobinsonfanclub.net/ PennyRobinsonFanClub

    Oh don’t be silly paranoids! It’s just all those business executives are RAAACIST H8ers trying to make Dear Leader look bad!

  • DrAbe

    Atlas Shrugged!! Hah! Love it!

  • ratizbad

    Be ready all,It will be a bumpy next four years,And I see no good in it.Time to impeach the Kenyan as soon as possible.

  • Ben Ghazi

    Maybe Obama will announce a free gift card for more folks … or even an Obamaphone.

    Rodney Booker said, “I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.”

  • Armando

    “Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better, or is this real?”

  • http://hakarune.co.cc/ Hakarune

    This is an example of liberal blindness to the truth:

    http://www.facebook.com/hakarune/posts/385564508186860

  • http://twitter.com/Pw9X trev

    Obama’s army of zombie voters don’t care. You do the work. They get the freebies.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1208422359 Bonita Ledzius

    My husband got his layoff notice on the way home from work on Election Day…part of the sequestration happening now. This will be his 3rd time being laid off from Defense Contractors during Obama’s administration. My husband is a faithful worker, very intelligent and knowledgeable worker, retired Navy veteran, and all we have seen from this administration is destruction. For those who think this is propaganda…you need to wake up! It’s happening, and I can verify that from personal experience. Don’t think you are immune to it happening to you. As many lose their jobs, there will be less people buying consumer goods or going to resteraunts, and as those businesses suffer from lack of patronage they will begin to lay off people too. Those layoffs may be you, your spouse, you adult children, your neighbors, family and friends. So you may think you have a reason to be smug because your candidate got reelected by some fraudulant means at that, you won’t be smug so long, when you find he doesn’t give a rip about you or any American, and your survival is on the line. Time to grow up and be mature adults with some common sense, instead of blithering zombie idiots who believe everything that Communist Muslim in the White House tells you.

  • jsmithcsa

    While I have no pity on the companies, many of whom concealed anticipated firings in violation of the law to help O get reelected, I feel sorry for the poor men and women who lost their jobs.

    Sadly, our president will not be held responsible by the media or the American people writ large for this disaster, when in fact, he is directly and entirely responsible. His reelection will cost many more thousands of people, including perhaps me, their jobs.

    • Junie3

      Just wait until card check is revisited and they start taking the rights away from Right to work states. It’s going to be so cool when we all become unionized slave labor like China. Workers of the world unite, it’s not just a slogan anymore.

    • GTFOBigGovt

      51% of those people likely voted for Obama.

  • http://twitter.com/bgjaxson GBJAXSON

    funny, healthcare stocks soar on election outcome, jobless claims down..but u say the eco is going down the drain….come on man, move forward not holding us back..

  • Coldsteel1983

    Hey, now president Obama will actually have someone other than Bush to blame for his failures!

  • http://www.facebook.com/marcelino.roque Marcelino Roque’

    You guys are all clownshoes. The lunatic fringe as Eisenhower used to say

    • GTFOBigGovt

      Yeah all those businesses are just kidding. They’re really fringey too.

  • sgtbh

    Obowmacare is still in first gear. Wait until Obowma puts it into overdrive.
    Good luck American workers.

  • BigDogJunction

    Terrified? Not in the least bit. I spent a couple days mourning the deathof America… after that, I ceased to care. The country I and many other risked our lives to defend and protect American lives, was for nothing. They don’t deserve saving.

    I am done voting for the GOP and Republicans. They refused to pick candidates that will appeal to us, yet pick candidates to appeal to the other side.

    I will now spend the remainder of my days on this planet looking for every handout and freebie I can get.

    The only hope, is the being this @#$% down before they build it.

  • Maria Seeger

    The thing that the Current Administration doesn’t realize is that the base culture of the USA isn’t like the base culture of 19th century Russia nor the base culture of Mexico and South America. What I mean by that is that those cultures had revolutions because they had a built-in class divide, not to mention in the case of our neighbors to the South, a history of unstable governments. This made it much easier for socialist governments to take hold and made revolution possible.

    But the US has enjoyed relative prosperity for over 200 years and has had a stable government for that long. Even though there has been poverty among minority groups and poor Whites, there was still the possibility of becoming rich through your own hard work; Horatio Alger was not myth, and the culture encouraged the “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” mentality. There are plenty of minority success stories to testify that acheiving the American Dream is possible through their hard work. So, the Progressive has had to work hard to create this culture of entitlement, and the problem is, that they haven’t quite succeeded to the extent that they would like. While it’s true that the majority of Americans who voted for Obama are part of the entitlement culture, there are still a significant number of Americans who wants nothing to do with entitlements, believe in self-reliance and is not willing to go quietly into that good night, but will fight tooth and nail to maintain their independence. And this is the populatilon that is likely to survive when the fit hits the shan, so to speak.d This is a resourceful lot…it will take an awful lot to beat it into submission.

    • lambomech

      That is absolutely correct! I’ve told many people about that here. I never hear any good news from those south Am countries. it is proven a number of times that one can be successful here if one is willing to. I have done it! just look at how many small businesses are around, I know of a web hosting company that started from a bedroom and now has 3-4 locations with over 2000 computers on each building (all that within 5-10 yrs) NO entitlement mentality there!

  • ATNorth

    Burn the math witch!!!

  • sgtbh

    The good news is that in 4 more years Obowma will no longer be President.
    The bad news is that he will then be Dictator of the United States.

    • Michelle Blackwell

      I know that you don’t believe this will happen. If you do, that I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.

  • Karen Foster

    What a huge pussy hissy fit. This it tantamount to a spoiled child refusing to eat their dinner because you didn’t give them the right fork, cup, or plate. They should be embarrassed.

    • medicinewomantwo

      Not a business owner, huh.

  • Bob Ibbitson

    Israel’s always scared of something. We should either move in with USA backed UN peacekeepers and set up a DMZ like between N/S Korea and WE provide the security between all the borders there and replies to missiles and shelling and shut ALL of the the fuck up or we fence them in and tell them to fight util there’s only 1 power in the entire middle east. I’m so tired of their bullshit. We either make ALL of them behave or make them kill each other off. Which they ALL want to do including blessed Israel.

    • medicinewomantwo

      “Make them behave” what is your occupation because it certainly isn’t diplomacy or civics…….

  • C J

    HOW
    MANY PEOPLE tried to tell you this was coming …. IT IS not revenge
    but, companies CANNOT AFFORD Obamacare !! You had a chance for a real
    turn around and you blew it !! YOU WERE WARNED !! SUCK IT UP AND FACE
    THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS !!! NO BODY WANTS TO HEAR YOUR
    WHINING AND BLAMING NOW !!

    OBAMA, WAS BEHIND LOCKHEAD MARTIN HOLDING OFF TILL AFTER HE WAS ELECTED TO
    ISSUE LAYOFFS, BECAUSE HE KNEW HE NEEDED THE VOTES TO WIN VIRGINIA. ,
    California was blind sided with plant closures.. !!

    http://twitchy.com/2012/10/01/

    http://urbangrounds.com/2012/1

    Pepsi….. Laying off 4000

    http://www.fresnotaxrelief.com

    HERE IS JUST A FEW MORE ON THE LONG LIST !!

    Oh…there is so much more than Boeing.

    Small Business Employment, Revenues In Downward Trend, Says Intuit

    That uncertainty was removed when the OBAMA got
    re-elected, they now know for certain the business climate is hostile.

    Then there is the massive power grab known as ØbamaCare, which will
    see millions of hourly workers having their work week reduced to 29
    hours to avoid the ØbamaCare 30 hour work week cut-off.

    Welch Allyn

    Welch Allyn, a company that manufactures medical diagnostic equipment
    in central New York, announced in September that they would be laying
    off 275 employees, or roughly 10% of their workforce over the next three
    years. One of the major reasons discussed for the layoffs was a
    proactive response to the Medical Device Tax mandated by the new
    healthcare law.

    Dana Holding Corp.

    As recently as a week ago, a global auto parts manufacturing company
    in Ohio known as Dana Holding Corp., warned their employees of potential
    layoffs, citing “$24 million over the next six years in additional U.S.
    health care expenses”. After laying off several white collar staffers,
    company insiders have hinted at more to come. The company will have to
    cover the additional $24 million cost somehow, which will likely equate
    to numerous cuts in their current workforce of 25,500 worldwide.

    Stryker

    One of the biggest medical device manufacturers in the world, Stryker
    will close their facility in Orchard Park, New York, eliminating 96
    jobs in December. Worse, they plan on countering the medical device tax
    in Obamacare by slashing 5% of their global workforce – an estimated
    1,170 positions.

    Medtronic

    In March of 2010, medical device maker Medtronic warned that
    Obamacare taxes could result in a reduction of precisely 1,000 jobs.
    That plan became reality when the company cut 500 positions over the
    summer, with another 500 set for the end of 2013.

    Others

    •Smith & Nephew – 770 layoffs

    •Abbott Labs – 700 layoffs

    •Covidien – 595 layoffs

    •Kinetic Concepts – 427 layoffs

    •St. Jude Medical – 300 layoffs

    •Hill Rom – 200 layoffs

    For those idiots celebrating OBAMA’S re-election you won’t be exempt
    from the misery that is coming AND THE ONES WHO TRIED TO WARN YOU DON’T
    WANT TO HEAR YOU COMPLAIN… YOU BROUGHT IT ON YOUR OWN SELF !!!

    • lambomech

      hi Jean, wow you really done a great research.. if you don’t mind I share this with people i know..

  • Victor Kahuro

    Choice, huh? Here are the consequences. ” Moving forward you are fired!!!

  • Danny Meeker

    Conservatism is more than an ideology…more than a philosophy….it’s a LESSON.

    Let it burn.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TVJU3Z5RYUJBSIXKGMRNNSEJDQ Mike Johnson

    F*ck liberals and f*ck demoncrats. I hope they all starve to death under Obama. You’re about to witness what happens to America when its’ backbone packs up and leaves. #nosympathy #glovesareoff #war

    • Michelle Blackwell

      Coincidentally, the backbone of America also receives the most of its funding from the federal government who in turn gets most its funding by those pesky liberal blue states. True story.

  • $3576447

    As someone once said: “The facts of life are conservative.”

  • Hollie Cordell

    sounds like an excuse to lay off…those taxes wont even start until 2014!! so next year the top executives can give themselves a big raise before the company shuts down.

    • Vivian Perez

      Maybe one day you’ll come out of your Alice-in-Wonderland fantasy world… It’s sad not to understand companies need time to restructure for the corporate hurricane that is coming… You might find yourself in a “pool of tears” as you finally inch your way out of the “rabbit hole.” Good luck!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/QSVJEUNHYOTAZUPB3KKUE7Y7G4 Steak

    Awesome. I hope all these butthurt conservative business owners end up forking out a big fat settlement check to each of their workers. Retaliatory firings are an illegal and costly way to throw a temper tantrum.

    • Vivian Perez

      Yep. I hope those conservative business owners SHARE THEIR WEALTH with an army of lawyers… and then, after the suing employees are also paid off, there will be less of anything for everyone, except the lawyers… Awesome!!!

      • lambomech

        great! time to study and become a lawyer!! Super!

    • Zabeus

      They appear to be anticipatory firings, not retaliatory.

    • Xena

      No one’s saying they’re going to fire anyone for voting a certain way.

      Without a contract you can be fired for no reason at all. Stop your own butthurt temper tantrum.

  • Joe

    hey Canada does not want nut cases like u folks…just go dig a hole and stick your head in it…

  • le

    SECTION 1

    The liberty of parents to direct the upbringing, education, and care of their children is a
    fundamental right.

    SECTION 2

    Neither the United States nor any state shall infringe this right without
    demonstrating that its governmental interest as applied to the person is of
    the highest order and not otherwise served.

    SECTION 3

    This article shall not be construed to apply to a parental action or
    decision that would end life.

    SECTION 4

    No treaty may be adopted nor shall any source of international law be employed to
    supersede, modify, interpret, or apply to the rights guaranteed by this article.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/45OWFS22NKCSLSRQ4TXSNS7QMU Rod M.

    *********Massive layoffs are already underway. Employees who have Obama regime bumper stickers on their car or have favorable postings on Facebook or Twitter, or are known leftists should be considered for job cuts first.******* Allow the conservatives to keep their job. What comes around goes around. This is a real war with the cultural left who want to destroy and destruct the American Ideal.

    • 1GregM

      Those voters on the left were under the impression they would be left out of the devastation that will come like a runaway train squarely at them as of Jan 1st. Most have no understanding this is an equal screwing we are about to receive.
      Now wait for the wailing to begin when they find out what they have
      inflicted on the nation by their vote.

      Elections have consequences and they’re comin’ at you liberal idiots– hang on to what you don’t want to lose. Better buy a tent so you’ll have a place to live.

      • Xena

        “Obama gon’ put gas in my tank! Obama gon’ pay mah mortgage!”

        Think again, “sistah”.

  • Teekers

    Uh… Iberia’s a Spanish company. Commerzbank is a German company. Hawker Beechcraft went bankrupt last year and sold their company to China. Boeing’s layoffs had been planned for ages and they themselves said it had nothing to do with the re-election. Do any of you guys do research?

    Actually, most of these companies announced layoffs before the election even happened, but I suppose that since Obama has been re-elected, you can make this more public the day AFTER election and blame him, instead.

    • Zabeus

      And what would they have done if Romney won? Never “make it more public”? (whatever that means)

      • Teekers

        I didn’t say “they” made it more public (and by ‘more public’, I mean bringing it more to light), I’m saying YOU did. As in, all the conservative blogs and websites. And the layoffs would have happened if Romney won because they either already happened or was already going to happen (with the exception of that coal company and Papa John’s, who did it purely as political statements).

        Basically, conservative websites and blogs have compiled all the company layoffs that have been done over the past year or two, whether they’re from American companies or non-American companies, tweaked the number of layoffs to make it look more serious (if you read the actual press releases, the number of layoffs is a lot smaller), and then tried to morph it into a sensationalist piece about how all these companies are ‘conveniently’ firing all these employees right after election. And it’s not some conspiracy I made up. I have a list of articles for almost every one of these companies concerning these layoffs, and they don’t correspond at all with the re-election of Obama; and if they did, the company was already failing and a victim of poor management, but they just wanted a scapegoat. If you ask nicely, I could post a few of them here.

        Some companies will lay off employees because of Obamacare, I agree with that. Many other companies are also doing just fine with it. The system isn’t perfect… and neither is any system. Companies rise and fall all the damn time, regardless of health insurance premiums or tax regulations.

        • BobbyBurnsit

          Funny how these announcements are made after the election. Yes, you are correct that some of these companies were on the edge anyhow to which I will submit this for your consideration – they were already feeling the ongoing damage inflicted by an overzealous regulatory structure (let’s not forget that Obama was determined to kill the coal industry, there are plenty of resources in which to find his quote). So perhaps these struggling companies were waiting to see if Obama would actually get a second chance to kill them or they might get a little relief from a changing of the guard. Hmm… that makes entirely too much sense no? Perhaps you need to go back to your partisan hypnosis and leave the smart people alone.

          • Teekers

            That sounds a bit speculative, and I’m not particularly convinced by your rhetorical questions. Like I said, a lot of these companies had already announced their layoffs prior to the election. Websites like Twitchy are just making it look like these companies were waiting until re-election to announce it. Many of these companies had already changed their guard, regardless of whether Obama got that second chance or not. Also, how do you explain companies like Iberia and Commerzbank on this list, who aren’t even American companies to begin with?

            As for the bit about the coal industry, yes, Obama is definitely looking into green energy, so the coal industry isn’t getting much love, I’ll admit that. But he can’t take all the blame. I believe there’s a little other energy industry that you’ve heard of? It’s called natural gas. The main reason coal industry is failing is because natural gas is being used way more. That’s competition. If a company comes up with a better solution, people WILL go for it; this is a result of the free market that all you conservatives champion so much. You know, capitalism?

            Thank you for replying without calling me a liberal communist faggot or something along those lines, but if you’re going to tell me to ‘leave the smart people alone’, you seriously need to get your news from places other than Fox News or Breitbart. I’ll leave it at that, and I’m done debating here.

  • Joe Capolunghi

    US rapidly approaching USSR … bare food shelves in the stores, long gas lines, no jobs, rampant crime, drunken hoards, ignorant masses, elitists, and all dependent on our corrupt government. Shame on you AMERICA!!!

    • Michelle Blackwell

      That’s funny. I was just at the supermarket and got a whole loaf of bread for the usual price.

  • mojorisin69

    Welcome to Socialism. Where everyone is EQUALLY POOR.

    If you voted for this fool, quit whining.

  • shabob2

    Obama should hire Romney to run the government. That way BO can just play golf every day.

  • http://twitter.com/Heysal Sally Taylor

    Massive amounts of layoffs starting. So who’s he gonna blame it on this time?

  • Susan Hickman

    Did anyone even look into this list? Really people. You have included German and Spanish companies with layoffs in their own country. You included companies with long term restructuring. Companies bought out by others. Companies with slumping sales over the past several years. Only three that I found named the Affordable Health Care Act as their reason. Please, if you want to make a point use the real reasons or people will never believe anything that you say.

    • 1GregM

      Do you ever read anything that isn’t colored in rose colored glass? Are you serious? Try this site and get back to us when you have digested it – by the way it doesn’t mention the 130,000 jobs lost at Lockheed that your bumbling hero didn’t want released before the election – I wonder why.

      http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/grusbf5/good-morning-america-heres-those-layoffs-you-voted

      • Susan Hickman

        Actually, I was neutral. I took each company listed in the tweets and researched their layoff history for about 20 minutes and only found three that were related to Obamacare. Example, Commerzbank and Iberia are not American based companies and did not lay off because of Obama Care. Groupon has been reorganizing and laying off the sales force ever since they reached a certain market saturation. Several others are bought out. Do I have to do all the work all over again for you? Perhaps, you would rather just scare people for your own agenda. I said that people should be accurate. I did not come down on either side of the argument. Perhaps, your view point is distorting your ability to look more carefully at everything that people repeat.

        • 1GregM

          Nice cherry picking, but the more prevelent question would the extension of your argument of implied acceptance of the situation, obviously exclusive of those companies on foreign soil. You’re OK with the reduction of the workforce in this country and consider it to be a normal outcome of business activity even though it apparently is the result of unintended consequences by your hero? The one whose punitive attitude toward business large and small is obvious with his application of regulations against them. How do you argue that when the inevitable outcome is an enlarged government dependency – or is that what you really are after?

      • Susan Hickman

        So, you think that giving me a link to a far right website is research? Not so. You must look at the company announcements and standard news related to the companies. Otherwise, you are just rehashing spin from a politcally biased source. Look deeper.

    • drgonz0

      The truth doesn’t matter for these people. And honestly I don’t know if it’s their fault. I’ve been watching faux news throughout this election, and if that was your only source of news you’d be pissing in your pants too worried about bama coming to git yer guns, and kick you out of your house, while setting you up for a death panel. They really are NOT a news organization.

      • Susan Hickman

        Just reading all of these threads makes me more afraid than anything else. Is there only hate? Isn’t anyone thinking? Isn’t anyone rejecting “news” that is only spin and entertainment. My goodness. So much of this is so easy to research and would more accurately inform. So many comments are so fearful and angry. People, please do NOT use Fox News, MSNBC, Americans for Prosperity, Move On.org, or American Crossroads as your news source. They select what they want to highlight and present incomplete information to support their argument.

  • 1GregM

    Oh yea!!! those unintended consequences of thoughtless voters who didn’t have the slightest idea of what it takes to run a business. Way to go lbs. Did you really think this wouldn’t affect you. Are you really THAT stupid? This is what you voted for, and this is what you are getting. The sweet smell of a nation turning into a third world country thanks to the abject stupidity of libs. Hold on to what you don’t want to lose. While you still have some money left, better go out and buy a freaking tent! Maybe you’ll be allowed to live on the WH lawn at the home of your ‘messiah’. This is the screwing you got for the screwing you gave America at the polls.

  • 1GregM

    Here ya go libs – this is what you voted for and this what you are going
    to get – congratulations losers. You are about to get sooo screwed by
    this administration and all of those associated with the left. Welcome
    to the third world of America!!! What does a person have to have in them to have a mind bent that would ratify the destruction of their country and screw over their own fellow citizens. How do you go home at night and tell yourself you are doing a good thing?

    • Xena

      AMEN! I’ve been UE so long that soon I won’t be counted, sure would have liked another extension, but what I want more than that is a JOB. For me, for everyone who wants one. I voted Romney because I believe in doing what’s best for the country, even if someone’s hinting at free cash. But then, I’m not an 0bama voter.

  • HardAssets

    For all you Libtards who put that big-eared Socialist back in the White House for 4 more years, just realize you’re about to get what you asked for….welfare, freebies and all that good socialized crap that Obama promised you….and you’re gonna need it. Not only can you Obama supporters now expect to be laid off of jobs by the hundreds of thousands…if not millions, you won’t be being hired by small business….who btw….create about 80 percent of all new jobs in America.

    Of course you really don’t want to work for some evil capitalist anyway….as if you were actually qualified in the first place. Just think how much better it will be living at home with Mom and Dad while Obama takes care of you.

    Remember when Obama said “elections have consequences”? Well that’s one of the few things he actually told the truth about and you’re about to find out about the consequences!

    Just remember…..you clowns started this war!!!!!

  • PPTA

    Voters, who voted Obama, will now get their dues paid. Becaue ofthe comming inflation, pensions will loose buying power, When fuel goes up, so does food production costs, so does transportation costs, not only to distribute food, but also medications, clothing, and any other essential products you have to have. When cities go broke, and many will declare bnkruptcy, here go the pensions that are not covered by the Federal rules. This will affect retired City workers, in some cases teachers. One day you will just not recieve your check. No money left. Don’t think so? It is already happening in some of the smaller cities and towns. I know people comming out of retirement because the buying power of their pensions has gotten smaller already. As far as the Obama vote, electronic voter machines, press Romney, the vote goes to Obama, then we have people registering to vote in multipul States and voting more than once, (a under cover reporter took video / audio, of this in Mich. Wis. and Texas.) Then we have the dead voting, a out of work plumber went to grave yards in his State, wrote down names of the dead, 1940 and earlier, sold the names to the State Democrat Party. How many other States did this happen in? Then we have the illegal vote, No ID required..It all adds up. Thus you see the winner. WND just had a story about the voter fraud. The machines I mentioned, started being manufactured in 2009, distributed to swing Sates in 2010. Where from? Spain, who owns 80% ofthe company? George Soros behind the scenes. America, you have been had. And he minorities, you also have been had. Big time. Obama may have given you a free cell phone, how long do you think he will let you keep it? Does a free cell phone and food stamps, mean you will give up your freedom?

  • Jeff Vojtko

    Obama is getting exactly what he wants. More people on the government dole. And, of course these people are just too dumb to know why they are now unemployed and rely on handouts.

  • cowboybobmt

    standby sports’ fans as the obummer’s plan accelerates to warp drive…this is not even the tiniest tip of the very biggest iceberg. His handlers have this laid out in earnest now and will now give marching orders daily. stew berens is spot on, NO one is this stupid about basic economics…so it IS deliberate…but the o-tron is not that smart…he is just a subservient implementer for Soros and others. The ONLY hope there is is that somehow the GOP congress can stonewall until help arrives (i have my doubts about the leadership)…BUT, if this election has told me anything, we are at the Alamo and reserves will not be arriving in time.

  • Lester Liberalmann

    Keep spreading lies to keep the stupid shits scared. The GOP will never win another election for President.

    • NCRelite

      okay maybe we should have 2 liberal parties where everyone agrees with eachother, or better yet, one party rule like China. GTFO

  • http://twitter.com/yahneverknowCB yahneverknow

    Nice open there…

    “You disingenuous gleeful lying fucks.”

    Wow. That really makes me want to take you seriously.

    In any case, this is just the beginning. Yes, some of those companies listed were planning their layoffs, but that’s not the point. More are coming. The sequestration layoffs that were held (illegally) until after the election are going to be announced. Thousands of small businesses will be culling the herd to get under those magical Obamacare numbers in order to avoid paying way more than they can afford.

    This is the trend.

  • Mickey James

    If the economy was going so great, the layoffs would stop,no?

  • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

    Do you REALLY, truly think someone is going to throw his business away just to “spin the news”???? Have you ever had your own business that you worked, sweated for, and loved like a child? It’s not even thinkable to just “close it down” to make a political point! How would that business owner now feed his family? pay his bills? Geez!

  • http://www.facebook.com/marianne.lackey Marianne De Loache Lackey

    Do you REALLY, truly think someone is going to throw his business away just to “spin the news”???? Have you ever had your own business that you worked, sweated for, and loved like a child? It’s not even thinkable to just “close it down” to make a political point! How would that business owner now feed his family? pay his bills? Geez!

  • PatriotOne

    I’m not going to ask if “you are that stupid” because you just showed it with these comments. ALL THOSE COMPANIES did those lay-offs and for a reason directly related to Barrys’ policies. You’re so stupid it’s pathetic, just like all the other Obamazombies. Drink some more juice, dip-chit

  • PatriotOne

    Yes, that opening was very convincing wasn’t it? This person doesn’t get it. They are so drunk on Barry juice they won’t know what hit them until the bullet exits the back of their skull

  • YankeeDoodleDanielle

    Mike Stein, just one of the myriad minions in the Mindless Masses Militia. Moronic Mike, your vapid stupidity just makes my head hurt. Oy vey.

  • http://libertyfirewall.com/ The Firewall

    You are an IDIOT! Too stupid to live.